West Indies news July 12, 2011

'West Indies aiming for top five by 2015' - Sammy

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Creating a professional ethos, improving fitness levels and identifying new talent are the key focus areas for West Indies as they aim to break into the top half of the Test table by 2015, their captain Darren Sammy has said. In an interview with ESPNcricinfo, Sammy, who was appointed captain until the end of the 2011 season, also spoke about his experience thus far, the role of seniors in the side and his dynamics with former captain Chris Gayle.

"Obviously bringing the whole professional attitude into practice properly and getting fit [are top of the agenda]," Sammy said, outlining the side's vision, as they strive to shake off years of sub-par performances. "I believe the fitter you are, the more right decisions you will make. You will not cramp up under pressure. Being in the top five by 2015, and building a strong team that will go out and compete against anybody [are also part of the plan].

"If you noticed over the last couple of years, we have been rotating the same guys. So now we are exposing a few more players, getting the right system, the right work ethic to go out and represent West Indies. Start changing the whole laidback type of culture, just strictly being professional. Knowing what to do for the team, and doing whatever it takes to make the team win [are the goals]."

Sammy took charge of the side in a period of turmoil caused by the team's on-field disappointments, and continued wrangling between the board and senior players, Gayle in particular. Several critics have questioned Sammy's place in the side as an allrounder, pointing to his modest batting returns at No. 8. Sammy has gained more success with the ball - he has 46 wickets in 16 Tests - but his presence in the team relegates the much faster Kemar Roach to the bench. Sammy said the criticism was unfair and believed his record was good enough to merit a spot in the starting XI.

"I think I have justified my selection as a bowler in the team," Sammy said. "My batting has obviously not been up to scratch. It's something I have to work on.

"If I look at my Test record it is okay. In every team somebody will always be the fall guy. So far it's always been me. It's tough luck on Kemar. At the end of the day the selectors pick the team. What's good is that we have competition for spots in the bowling department."

Sammy also revealed that while he was ready to lead the team through the tough times, he had no qualms over playing under someone else. "I am not somebody who, if not the captain, will be sulking and stuff like that. To be honest, I never dreamt of being the captain. Whether I am the captain or not, I will be the same person. I enjoy my job, but what I am saying is I would enjoy my cricket even if I am not the captain."

The Gayle-WICB dispute has raged for the bulk of Sammy's tenure as captain - he took charge after Gayle's demotion. However, he challenged the perception that he was the board's man and insisted he had always enjoyed a good working relationship with Gayle and had no part to play in how the feud unfolded.

"The whole situation with Gayle is not in my hands. I have no issues with Christopher. He helped me throughout the World Cup. I was always going to him for advice and stuff like that. It's sad that we have an issue like this now. Hopefully something positive will come out of this issue."

Even as West Indies make a concerted push towards introducing new talent, Sammy said seniors like Shivnarine Chanderpaul and Ramnaresh Sarwan have a role to play in the side's future. "You saw today [fifth day of the Dominica Test] what Shiv [Chanderpaul] does and what he has been doing throughout his career. He has the ability to rally the younger players around him. And we have a number of young players in the team presently, but you saw the way he guided Kirk Edwards through to his first century. Hopefully he can carry on batting like he's been doing.

"Sars [Sarwan] is a class player. I believe that he will bounce back being the classy player that he is and the fighter that he is. So I will never write Sarwan off. I believe he still has a lot to offer."

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  • POSTED BY gottalovetheraindance on | July 15, 2011, 20:35 GMT

    with all the problems with the Sri Lankan board, their bowling & their top batsmen being well over 30 surpassing them isn't impossible. the PCB also has its struggles as well as Misbah,Yousuf & Younis being up in age. they will miss Amir & Asif too

    however i do not see India South Africa England or Australia leaving the top 5 by 2015. i believe they have the talent pool financial resources & technical know how to maintain their current positions despite losing Tendulkar Dravid Laxman Sehwag Zaheer Kallis Boucher Strauss Swann Prior Trott Katich Ponting Hussey & Haddin I say give Chanderpaul or Gayle a 2nd shot @ captaincy with Sammy as vice captain bring in Roach for Bharat & have Gayle & Bravo opening . If Bravo & Sammy dont step up their batting & fielding then drop them

  • POSTED BY cricchic on | July 15, 2011, 19:07 GMT

    W.I need to aim High, Stop aiming for Drawn test, look to win test..yes we know you guys are on along loosing streak..winning will make the different not drawing..stop trying to instill that mentality in the minds of W.I...Go for the kill

  • POSTED BY cricchic on | July 15, 2011, 18:48 GMT

    India did very well with Gayle, Darren Bravo and Taylor missing from W.I Squad.. seem like it was 2 teams with 2nd string team playing against each other, and the team with the most confidence won...not talent....

  • POSTED BY on | July 15, 2011, 17:51 GMT

    Sammy is a dismal failure. His record as a captain reflects that. This is the age of performance management. Andre Russell is a far superior cricketer than this Sammy fellow and the only reason why he isnt in the team is because Sammy is occupying that crucial spot. Sammy has won nothing and will win nothing. He should d the right thing and step down. He is a hindrance to a fine cricketer in Russell being denied a place because of the pettyness of Julian Hunte who is a countryman of Sammy. The opposing coaches and commentators will 'Sammy is a good captain" because they want him to remain there so that they can outhink and outplay us. Do the right thing Sammy and step down for the betterment of Windies Cricket.

  • POSTED BY b4u8me2 on | July 15, 2011, 17:12 GMT

    Also @ kemmisito: Cricinfo's Stats Guru will also show you that Darren Sammy is the least consistent bowler to have taken 3 or more wickets in an innings. In 29 innings Sammy have only taken 3 or more wickets in an innings 5 times. This is 17.24%. Edwards have taken 3 or more wickets in an innings 24/80 times at 30%, Taylor -13/49 times at 26.5%, Roach -7/21 times at 33.3%, Rampaul -5/18 times at 27.7% and Bishoo -5/10 times at 50%. So the bowlers who are likely to get u 3 or more wickets every innings in descending order are Bishoo, Roach, Edwards, Rampaul, Taylor then Sammy.

  • POSTED BY cricchic on | July 15, 2011, 17:11 GMT

    I am not a Sammy hater. but I love Cricket more that I love Sammy, My fellow W.I please. let us not bury our heads in the sand...Sammy with all his heart, passion and love for the game, is not a better all rounder that Dwayne Bravo and A. Russle. I would prefer Sammy captain the ODI and T20 Squad any day, as he him self claims he is a stock bowler...I admire the 2015 Vision, but if Sammy does not answer with his bat he cannot have the right to say he is a genuine all rounder, he has played 16 test match (28) innings and never scored 1 single half century ....Bravo did and if Russle got the chance he he will...

  • POSTED BY b4u8me2 on | July 15, 2011, 16:21 GMT

    @ kemmisito: What Cricinfo's Stats Guru will also show you is that Darren Sammy has a strike rate of 65.0 compared to Edwards' 56.3, Roach's 57.3 and Taylor's 60.1. Lets look at some even more interesting stats - Sammy's bowling average against the top teams are disastrous!! Against Aus. he averages 60.80, India -38.28, SA -69.50 and Sri Lanka - 75.50!! Lets now compare the other bowlers. Against Aus. Taylor averages 31.22, Edwards -34.60 and Roach -51.00. Against India, Taylor averages 24.35, Edwards -21.38 and Roach -hasn't played against India as yet. Against SA, Taylor averages 31.77, Edwards -90.36 and Roach -31.0. against Sri Lanka Taylor averages 35.92, Edwards -21.45, and Roach -24.50. From those stats one can see that apart from Edwards poor average against SA the averages of Sammy's other competitors are far better against teams with a powerful batting line up. Sammy is an excellent support bowler but he is not a strike bowler. He should play at No.6 as an All Rounder!!

  • POSTED BY on | July 15, 2011, 9:58 GMT

    Darren Sammy is a very consistent player and a excellent captain (there is no doubt about it) but consistency means nothing if you do not have the flair that is required to be a test match bowler. the only problem that i have with Darren Sammy being in the side is that he is keeping two of the brightest lights of west indian cricket out of the team for example Kemar Roach or Andre Russel, if these two players were in the team they could go on to be two of best players in the side and the most shocking point is that as an all-rounder Andre Russel is a better player in my opinion, he has better batting ability than Darren Sammy, he is alot quicker and more flair and wicket-taking abillity than sammy although he may not yet be as consistant as Darren Sammy. Andre Russel will only grow with the experience of playing test math cricket.

  • POSTED BY kemmisito on | July 15, 2011, 3:54 GMT

    @ Anil_Koshy: It's really funny to hear you say "Sammy cannot take 5-6 wickets in a test match". Please be advised that Sammy has 4 Five wicket hauls in 16 test matches. That's 1 every 4 matches. No one on the WI team gets 5 wicket hauls more consistently. Fidel is the next best as he gets 1 in every 4.6 matches. Taylor gets 1 in every 9.66 matches. Roach gets 1 in every 6 matches. Benn gets 1 in every 5.66 matches. Rampaul has never taken 5 wickets in his 10 matches. Bishoo has never taken 5 wickets in his 5 matches. Sammy is obviously not the most gifted bowler however is a more consistent performer than our more talented guys who will sparle for 1 match and bowl garbage for the next 4 matches. That's why all these guys except Roach average over 35 while Sammy averages below 30. Please do some research before making biased inaccurate statements dude. You have Cricinfo's Stats Guru @ your disposal. Please make use of it.

  • POSTED BY Vilander on | July 14, 2011, 18:27 GMT

    WI did very well, but india did not have sachin,sehwag,gambir,yuvi,zaheer,sreesanth.

  • POSTED BY gottalovetheraindance on | July 15, 2011, 20:35 GMT

    with all the problems with the Sri Lankan board, their bowling & their top batsmen being well over 30 surpassing them isn't impossible. the PCB also has its struggles as well as Misbah,Yousuf & Younis being up in age. they will miss Amir & Asif too

    however i do not see India South Africa England or Australia leaving the top 5 by 2015. i believe they have the talent pool financial resources & technical know how to maintain their current positions despite losing Tendulkar Dravid Laxman Sehwag Zaheer Kallis Boucher Strauss Swann Prior Trott Katich Ponting Hussey & Haddin I say give Chanderpaul or Gayle a 2nd shot @ captaincy with Sammy as vice captain bring in Roach for Bharat & have Gayle & Bravo opening . If Bravo & Sammy dont step up their batting & fielding then drop them

  • POSTED BY cricchic on | July 15, 2011, 19:07 GMT

    W.I need to aim High, Stop aiming for Drawn test, look to win test..yes we know you guys are on along loosing streak..winning will make the different not drawing..stop trying to instill that mentality in the minds of W.I...Go for the kill

  • POSTED BY cricchic on | July 15, 2011, 18:48 GMT

    India did very well with Gayle, Darren Bravo and Taylor missing from W.I Squad.. seem like it was 2 teams with 2nd string team playing against each other, and the team with the most confidence won...not talent....

  • POSTED BY on | July 15, 2011, 17:51 GMT

    Sammy is a dismal failure. His record as a captain reflects that. This is the age of performance management. Andre Russell is a far superior cricketer than this Sammy fellow and the only reason why he isnt in the team is because Sammy is occupying that crucial spot. Sammy has won nothing and will win nothing. He should d the right thing and step down. He is a hindrance to a fine cricketer in Russell being denied a place because of the pettyness of Julian Hunte who is a countryman of Sammy. The opposing coaches and commentators will 'Sammy is a good captain" because they want him to remain there so that they can outhink and outplay us. Do the right thing Sammy and step down for the betterment of Windies Cricket.

  • POSTED BY b4u8me2 on | July 15, 2011, 17:12 GMT

    Also @ kemmisito: Cricinfo's Stats Guru will also show you that Darren Sammy is the least consistent bowler to have taken 3 or more wickets in an innings. In 29 innings Sammy have only taken 3 or more wickets in an innings 5 times. This is 17.24%. Edwards have taken 3 or more wickets in an innings 24/80 times at 30%, Taylor -13/49 times at 26.5%, Roach -7/21 times at 33.3%, Rampaul -5/18 times at 27.7% and Bishoo -5/10 times at 50%. So the bowlers who are likely to get u 3 or more wickets every innings in descending order are Bishoo, Roach, Edwards, Rampaul, Taylor then Sammy.

  • POSTED BY cricchic on | July 15, 2011, 17:11 GMT

    I am not a Sammy hater. but I love Cricket more that I love Sammy, My fellow W.I please. let us not bury our heads in the sand...Sammy with all his heart, passion and love for the game, is not a better all rounder that Dwayne Bravo and A. Russle. I would prefer Sammy captain the ODI and T20 Squad any day, as he him self claims he is a stock bowler...I admire the 2015 Vision, but if Sammy does not answer with his bat he cannot have the right to say he is a genuine all rounder, he has played 16 test match (28) innings and never scored 1 single half century ....Bravo did and if Russle got the chance he he will...

  • POSTED BY b4u8me2 on | July 15, 2011, 16:21 GMT

    @ kemmisito: What Cricinfo's Stats Guru will also show you is that Darren Sammy has a strike rate of 65.0 compared to Edwards' 56.3, Roach's 57.3 and Taylor's 60.1. Lets look at some even more interesting stats - Sammy's bowling average against the top teams are disastrous!! Against Aus. he averages 60.80, India -38.28, SA -69.50 and Sri Lanka - 75.50!! Lets now compare the other bowlers. Against Aus. Taylor averages 31.22, Edwards -34.60 and Roach -51.00. Against India, Taylor averages 24.35, Edwards -21.38 and Roach -hasn't played against India as yet. Against SA, Taylor averages 31.77, Edwards -90.36 and Roach -31.0. against Sri Lanka Taylor averages 35.92, Edwards -21.45, and Roach -24.50. From those stats one can see that apart from Edwards poor average against SA the averages of Sammy's other competitors are far better against teams with a powerful batting line up. Sammy is an excellent support bowler but he is not a strike bowler. He should play at No.6 as an All Rounder!!

  • POSTED BY on | July 15, 2011, 9:58 GMT

    Darren Sammy is a very consistent player and a excellent captain (there is no doubt about it) but consistency means nothing if you do not have the flair that is required to be a test match bowler. the only problem that i have with Darren Sammy being in the side is that he is keeping two of the brightest lights of west indian cricket out of the team for example Kemar Roach or Andre Russel, if these two players were in the team they could go on to be two of best players in the side and the most shocking point is that as an all-rounder Andre Russel is a better player in my opinion, he has better batting ability than Darren Sammy, he is alot quicker and more flair and wicket-taking abillity than sammy although he may not yet be as consistant as Darren Sammy. Andre Russel will only grow with the experience of playing test math cricket.

  • POSTED BY kemmisito on | July 15, 2011, 3:54 GMT

    @ Anil_Koshy: It's really funny to hear you say "Sammy cannot take 5-6 wickets in a test match". Please be advised that Sammy has 4 Five wicket hauls in 16 test matches. That's 1 every 4 matches. No one on the WI team gets 5 wicket hauls more consistently. Fidel is the next best as he gets 1 in every 4.6 matches. Taylor gets 1 in every 9.66 matches. Roach gets 1 in every 6 matches. Benn gets 1 in every 5.66 matches. Rampaul has never taken 5 wickets in his 10 matches. Bishoo has never taken 5 wickets in his 5 matches. Sammy is obviously not the most gifted bowler however is a more consistent performer than our more talented guys who will sparle for 1 match and bowl garbage for the next 4 matches. That's why all these guys except Roach average over 35 while Sammy averages below 30. Please do some research before making biased inaccurate statements dude. You have Cricinfo's Stats Guru @ your disposal. Please make use of it.

  • POSTED BY Vilander on | July 14, 2011, 18:27 GMT

    WI did very well, but india did not have sachin,sehwag,gambir,yuvi,zaheer,sreesanth.

  • POSTED BY Dashgar on | July 14, 2011, 16:51 GMT

    So much criticism for Sammy. Before the series he was expected to lose everything. His supposed best batsman Sarwan made no runs. He bowled India out every first innings I believe. His team is very young. India had some players out but only Tendulkar was resting, the rest were injured due to bad management during the IPL. India could hardly have fielded a better side without their aging master making the trip.

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2011, 16:16 GMT

    Who won the series? India did and that's all that matters.

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2011, 15:53 GMT

    People say Sammy's bowling isn't good enough for test cricket, yet his figures say otherwise. Sometimes also a good captain has worth beyond his playing ability; Mike Brearley was never good enough to truly be a test player, yet the guy was one of the best test captain ever. Sammy is making all the right sounds about professionalism, fitness etc, and whilst the batting was a let down at key moments in the tour the bowling was impressive throughout. I for one hope he succeeds; he's already been a more impressive captain than Gayle ever was.

  • POSTED BY sony_sr on | July 14, 2011, 13:28 GMT

    Are you kidding? 4 years to get to top 5? Afterall there are only 8 test teams (zim and ban cannot be considered major test teams)

  • POSTED BY D_rant on | July 14, 2011, 13:11 GMT

    I like sammy as captain there is no one esle to commit to the job as he does, but he needs to improve his batting, i don't see his bowling getting any better thats the best in my opinion he can do, although the bowling conditions will determine that. I think if west indies are looking towards the future they should also look for a future captain, all the good captains in the region are on the end of their careers, so i suggest that they nurture a young player, we need a stable captain and we all know sammy wouldn't be there for long, so i will give one of the young players the vice captain, teach him everything there is to know about leadership let him captain his regional side and when ever they axe sammy they already have someone in line that is young and more talented. IMO the current windies team i will give simmons the vice- captain teach him how to lead. if we had a talented player who can be captain, we wouldn't need sammy but as of now he is the only one that can lead the team.

  • POSTED BY Stark62 on | July 14, 2011, 13:09 GMT

    If Sammy wasn't in the team then, the Windies attack would have been Roach, Rampaul/Taylor/Edwards (2 out of these 3) and Bishoo.

    Looks like a pretty powerful bowling unit and one that is capable of taking 20 wickets but Sammy is blocking this.

  • POSTED BY WTEH on | July 14, 2011, 11:05 GMT

    I think this guy is trying everything to save his captaincy. It is sad that the officials see a future out of him. He's a good for nothing all-rounder, who cannot perform when the team really need him. Get somebody else as the captain if you guys want to survive.

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2011, 10:49 GMT

    Give Sammy a break..and try to be constructive. Even if Sammy is not on the team by 2015, he still needs to set long term goals. That the problem with most west indians...Our families go under because we selfishly will not set long term goals for them especially when we would not be around. Remember it approximately 500 years to build the Great Pyramid of Giza..those who laid the foundation did not see the height at which it stands today.. which is one of the world greatest treasure..

  • POSTED BY stormy16 on | July 14, 2011, 7:21 GMT

    I think there is enough talent in the WI to be competitive at a higher level than the current rankings but nuturing that talent to get the best out of them by the WICB appears to be the biggest obstacle. When talents like Galye and Roach dont make the starting eleven in the test team its clear the issue in not talent - well the talent is not playing!! There are some real prospects comming through the WI ranks with Dravo, Bishoo, Russel (he's worth a try ahead of Sami when he's done captaining) but the challenge is beyon talent and there are a few countires falling in to this category and its good to see the ICC take some steps to rectify this but at the end of the day its going to be up to each cricketing board to act in the best interest of the game - no amount of talent will be enough if this basic principle is not followed.

  • POSTED BY RajeshMys on | July 14, 2011, 6:42 GMT

    @Real WI, your comments are not acceptable at all! Who said Indians cant play Pace? In the past, on many occasions they have scored runs against genuine Pace bowlers! Remember SA in 2010, it was young Kohli who showed great skills in handling the Pace attack & scored runs in the ODI series!Every team has got weaknesses, even the All conquering Aussies under Steve Waugh could never handle quality Spin!! The Windies bowlers got wickets because Indian batsmen played badly & gifted their wickets!Agreed, Kohli & Vijay failed, but Raina & Mukund showed their class, how can you call them also as failures? Next time these teams meet, Windies will win because their youngsters will be more experienced, you say!! What about the Indian youngsters, they will also be better exposed by then, isnt it?If U say WI would have won if Sammy had not dropped Dravid, I wil say India would hav won if Chanderpaul had not been dropped! These" IF's" hav no place in today"s practical world, yaar!!Accept facts!!

  • POSTED BY RajeshMys on | July 14, 2011, 5:49 GMT

    India were the Touring side, west indies were the home side who enjoyed the home advantage!! Despite this, West Indies lost the test series as well as ODI series!! At no stage did the Windies look like winning any of the 3 tests!What more do you need to prove India's superiority over the Windies? If Sachin, Zaheer, Sehwag, Yuvi & Gautham had played, maybe the Windies would have lost the Test series 3-0 & the ODI's 5-0 !! If Edwards, Bishoo & rampaul got wickets, that was not because they were too good, but because India played badly & gifted their wickets!! If this mediocre Windies team cannot win at home, surely they cannot win abroad ! Just see, when india meet Windies next, it is India who will win again, only, the margin of victory will be bigger than now!! I understand, some of us are Indian Fans, some others are West Indian Fans, but West Indian Fans please be sportive in accepting that your current team is a bad one!! It's a fact, you cant deny it !!!!

  • POSTED BY bhaloniaz on | July 14, 2011, 4:59 GMT

    "! I am a little disappointed with the interviewer because he seemed to be trying to force Darren to admit .." I kind of agree with you. In my personal opinion WI can not afford to keep Darren. WI needs two fast bowlers (like Roach, Edwards, Taylor etc.). Rampaul is a good opening bowler (he edges Sammy by far). They have to pick between Darren and Bishoo. But Bishoo adds a variety and can bowl long spells to give the quicks much needed rests. WI batting is not string enough to play 5 bowlers. Fast bowlers would be the edge against teams like IND, SRI. By playing Sammy WI lost that edge. If you bring a weak batsman to play as a captain, your batting becomes 5%-10% weaker(less cumulative effects; your WK and bowlers also bat). If you bring a weak bowler you bowling becomes 20% weaker (because having a wicket taking bowler on both ends means a lot).

  • POSTED BY Fast_Track_Bully on | July 14, 2011, 4:28 GMT

    No worries. But India will be at the top of test ranking for the next couple of years, thats sure..

  • POSTED BY Anil_Koshy on | July 14, 2011, 3:55 GMT

    West Indies can never win a test match with 3 and half bowlers, Sammy cannot take 5-6 wickets in a test match. The selectors feel one day cricket and test cricket is the same, they should know to win a test match they need bowlers who can take 20 wickets. It looks stupid when you see bowlers like Roach and Taylor sitting outside for somebody like Sammy.

  • POSTED BY Randy_Wilson on | July 14, 2011, 3:24 GMT

    @Ambrose Alexander Made a very good point. forget about 15 years. For the Last 10 Years. With players like Sarwan, Chanderpaul, Gayle, B Lara, F Edwards, J Taylor, S Benn, D Ramdin, B Nash, etc Who are W.I Full strength yet West Lose Series after Series, Only beating Bangladesh with that 10 years, and winning ONLY England tour 1-0. which West Indies Nearly got away. it could of been 2-1 England Win. People really need to get there Facts right, by doing research on West Indies 10 year performance. it was a One man Show all the time, starting with B Lara. Now this D Sammy team is playing as a TEAM and not as a ONE MAN show. D Sammy i agree is not Talented, but his AVG is still better than all Fast Bowler we got in TEST and T20. his ODI is very poor. His batting is very poor and i am happy is putting his focus on one thing . People need to give Sammy a break, he did a good job as a captain, unlike Gayle. he just need to Improve his bowlin/batting. and also need as much support he can get

  • POSTED BY Viswasam on | July 14, 2011, 3:18 GMT

    Good on Darren! I am a little disappointed with the interviewer because he seemed to be trying to force Darren to admit that he is not good enough for the West Indies team. One point that Darren made really stood out and all the Weste Indians who are criticising him should take note; "the best player does not always make the best captain". In my opinion it is indeed extremely rare that the best player has ever made a good captain. In fact I think players such as Viv, Waugh and others who have been classified as great captains actually inherited great teams that were created by "good" captains before them, Lloyd and Taylor. They had great talents at their disposal and quite frankly anybody could have captained the teams these guys inherited. West Indies have had their share of great players (Lara et al) captain and we know where that has led - to decline. I think people should get off Darren's back, support him more and help him get West Indies back on track.

  • POSTED BY 44johter on | July 14, 2011, 1:44 GMT

    yeah yeah yeah they would have lost if it was not for the rain, if pak did not drop so many catches a WIN is a WIN. In the records it goes down as a WIN. So to all those naysayers who can constantly find fault the WI will continue to try and do their best even with your constant criticism. We have to try something different WE HAVE TO TRY. The team is not balanced can anyone say since when the team looked balanced with the supposedly best palyers in the team? So what difference does Sammy make to the balance. I will tell u the difference COMMITMENT. That is all we ask for some passion and comitment. I dont care how talented you are and what averages u have if you are not COMMITTED we will go nowhere. There is still much more work for WI to do but if they set goals and work towards them things will happen. I prefer u try and fail than not trying at all. If u put the best 11 on the field and have BALANCE who will motivate the team? Gayle? Bravo? Sarwan? For a strike maybe.....

  • POSTED BY on | July 14, 2011, 0:04 GMT

    For Sammy to say he's aiming for top five in 2015 is ridiculous! He won't be captain by then, so he should focus on shorter term goals, like victories in upcoming series. To set such a distant goal is a cop out. Let's face it, if the West Indies were to harness the talent pool they have RIGHT Now: Gayle, Bravo brothers, Chanderpaul, Sarwan, Samuels, and Pollard at bat, then Rampaul, Bishoo, Fidel Edwards, Roach and Rampaul as the bowling outfit, AND if they were INSPIRED with PROPER LEADERSHIP to PLAY AS A TEAM, then this group would be competitive against any other nation's current team. They have the skills. They are like the best Formula One car without a good driver - IT WON'T WIN THE RACE! And stop comparing them to Sobers and Richards and the rest - those guys never played against Tenduchar and Ponting, did they? These guys can be up there again with England, India, South Africa and Australia again if they can put together as a unit. But a house divided against itself....

  • POSTED BY pj3000 on | July 13, 2011, 22:00 GMT

    I'd like to see Brendan Nash come back into this side for some time to come. Gives the batting order balance and grit.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 21:07 GMT

    To truly comprehend WI cricket one has to have knowledge of the history of WI cricket. Recent history suggests that the WI have been losing badly for about 15 years now and have slipped down miserably in the world rankings. What's wrong with the captain making a statement of intent? People who say that Sammy is talking rubbish, ask them what really has the WI won in the last 15 years other than the Champions trophy. With the "balanced" side we managed to win very little: in fact nothing. How quickly we forget! Remember playing for draws against Eng. after the victory in Jamaica(2009), winning absolutely nothing against Aus(in Aus), and SA in the Caribbean with the balanced sides? We can talk all we want about the glory days but these are in the past. Sammy is the best man for the job at the moment. There was rain(in tests) granted but dravid was also dropped in the match won by 60 runs and some WI batsmen got some bad decisions, so it goes both ways.

  • POSTED BY b4u8me2 on | July 13, 2011, 19:53 GMT

    Not too long ago Darren Sammy was considered as an All Rounder. Now he is playing as one of the four strike bowlers and not as the All Rounder in the team. Fact is Sammy is not a strike bowler. He cannot force batsmen out. But he is a very good support bowler which is why he needs to play at No. 6 as that important All Rounder I think is needed in every test team. Right now WI have some decent All rounders in David Bernard Jr., Dwayne Bravo and Andre Russell. Sammy should be competing against these guys not against Roach and Taylor who are better strike bowlers. The WI is unbalanced because they presently play with 3 strike bowlers and Sammy the container/support bowler. Sammy needs to improve his batting claim that No. 6 spot if he is really thinking about the team. If not then he should make way for Russell to play at No. 6 and Roach or Taylor play as the 4th main strike bowler. Love u Sammy but your role should not be as a strike bowler because you are not a strike bowler.

  • POSTED BY sachin1bradman2 on | July 13, 2011, 19:37 GMT

    Why settle for anything lower than the number 1 position Sammy...?! Can you imagine Clive Lloyd, Viv Richards, Michael Holding etc thinking like that...? The ICC rankings seem to have had an adverse hypnotic impact on cricket teams and fans all across the world. And they don't always reflect the reality. For example, the Aussies are always a great fighting unit and will always stand a chance of winning (notwithstanding the ranking of their opposition) and yet they are not in the top bracket anymore. Teams should look for deeper ways to motivate themselves and not rely too much on some random number generated by some random organization.

  • POSTED BY Midonoff on | July 13, 2011, 19:20 GMT

    If that was India B team in the just concluded series, well where is the A team? Only When Sachin, Laxman, Dravid retires, where will the players come from to fill their boots, the A team or C team? I think the B team that was sent to the Caribbean was as close to full strength. Don't think the A team (if there is one) could have done much better. Remember some players were missing from west Indies team as well. England is targeting the No 1 test ranking spot. West Indies only predicting a top 5 spot. Who India should be concern about?

  • POSTED BY likeintcricket on | July 13, 2011, 19:08 GMT

    If someone remembers the WI series vs Pak, it was a drawn series as Pakistan won the second Test decisively by 196 runs. In the first Test at one stage Pak were 80 runs off the winning target with six wickets left when Sammy started swinging the ball both ways and got 5 wickets(suspected eh!). This after Pak dropped dozen of catches in both innings. The two one-days they won was due to a Duck worth-Lewis system( they surely would have lost it otherwise) and the fifth one was due to silly changes in the side( Afridi-Waqar fight). Ramiz later pointed out that Pak could have won it 5-0 and 2-0. I don't know why Sammy is making that comment. He is lucky to escape a 3-0 drubbing against an Indian B side. Currently he is in a dream and only the next International assignment will wake him up surely.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 19:06 GMT

    @Keth Thompson. The solution would be professionalism, only they're about 20 years too late for that one. The sport isn't played as a full time profession by the domestic teams, hence it lacks in structure and adequate checks and controls. Of old, West Indians used to go to the UK to work/educate and come back even more cricket mad. Today, the West Indians go to the USA, where there's baseball and basketball and where if they do these sports they can earn a living. What happened to the Bahamas (where cricket is the national sport, from days back when people there played it) will on the current path be the fate the West Indies. Sammy should be more concerned over the coming decade about watching their backs from the likes of Ireland and Afghanistan (provided they continue to progress), the same is true about New Zealand, as for Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, well they're lost hopes.

  • POSTED BY omar801 on | July 13, 2011, 19:03 GMT

    Judging from these comments,it seem that arrogance comes with being no.1.The same arrogance that was shown by the Aussie fans is now evident among the Indian fans.You speak of this Indian team being a B team.Apart from Sarwan,Chanders and Fidel,how much experience did this WI team have.India had VVS,Dravid,Harbajan,Dhoni,Sharma,Raina and others who had lots of one-day exposure.Yet you past 300 only once because Rampaul was sick.When India can win more than 1 test match in an away series against anyone except Bangladesh or NZ then no one will take their no.1 (on points) position seriously.In the days of WI being no.1 and Australia's early reign it wasnt by points,it was by going everywhere and demolishing teams(home and away).Even a high number of Indian supporters have doubts about the creditability of this no.1 label.Calling off a game needing 86 runs from 15 overs with 7 wickets in hand,HA HA HA HA.Couldnt take the chance of losing to this WI team if you ask me.

  • POSTED BY Robster1 on | July 13, 2011, 19:01 GMT

    And get Dwayne Smith back into the limited overs team.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 18:51 GMT

    i think unless the westidies cricket board and players have no difference of opinion wi cricket cannot even finish no8. what s that guy darren sammy doing he is neither a decent batsman nor a bowler drops caches .by stripping gayle from captaincy wi board has just seeked revenge on gayle but not progressed

  • POSTED BY gottalovetheraindance on | July 13, 2011, 18:21 GMT

    with the Quality of players that should be leaving the game during the next 4 years West Indies moving up into the top 5 is not far fetched. Jayawardene Sangakarra Samaraweera Dilshan Laxman Dravid Tendulkar Sehwag Misbah Younis Ponting Katich Hussey Kallis Strauss Trott Boucher, Haddin, Vettori, Zaheer Swann. It is quite likely that the teams in the top 5 now will see their batting being very weakened so with our talented bowling attack we may be in a good position to take advantage of that. the bowling of the other teams though will be mostly unchanged so our batting will have to step up in the absence of Chanderpaul, Nash Sarwan Samuels & Gayle. If Bangladesh can find 2 Decent fast bowlers then they too could make the step up the ranks

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 17:46 GMT

    i think its gona be very defiicult for WI to get to top 5 in nxt 3 years coz aus, pak, srilanka,england are doing well as compare to WI. india and africa is offcouse on top. but i have a doubt for sammy with 78 runs in 6 innings and 7 wickets in 3 test matches, i dont think he deserve first 11.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 17:43 GMT

    this is a test this is a test this is a test this is a test this is a test this is a test

  • POSTED BY ChuckyDoll on | July 13, 2011, 17:40 GMT

    Funny.... there are only about 5 good test playing nations! Sammy is making a hollow promise..... almost doesn't mean anything.

  • POSTED BY gottalovetheraindance on | July 13, 2011, 17:36 GMT

    WI selectors & board must stop overburdening Sammy 2 have a puppet as captain! his cricket is suffering. Right now Sammy is a below average fielder & Batter & just about average bowler. before he was captain @ least he was a decent fielder, he even took good catches. But now he is repeatedly dropping even 'sitters' he should take easily. Sangakarra, Taufeeq Umar & Dravid have all gone on to make key centuries after being dropped by Sammy early in their innings as a result he has helped us lose matches we should have drawn or even won!! In fact he has cost us more runs in dropped catches since being captain than he has made since test debut!! i was SHOCKED when i saw the stats. He takes wickets when the batsmen are attacking from a good position & not as often when they are needed 2 finish off the opponents like Pakistan 190odd/9 @ Warner Park or India 80odd/6 @ Sabina Park. his tactical ineptitude as captain has not helped either. one 5for & win vs weak Pakistan batting is not enuf!!

  • POSTED BY maddy20 on | July 13, 2011, 17:19 GMT

    @cricchic Perhaps the incorrect decisions against Indian batsmen Dhoni, Bhajji and the in-form Raina were also worth mentioning?

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | July 13, 2011, 17:05 GMT

    For me Ganga was better leader. He was like sammy but Sammy has God father in WICB. That is the difference. When Ganaga was leading trinidad team , they played old world beating team. There was arroganace even lendl simmons played like he is someone else. People were rallying behind Ganga. if gnaga can able to score feew 50s he would be better captain than sammy. Main reason is that sammy bowling is average ..zero batting. He do not balance the team.

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | July 13, 2011, 17:00 GMT

    All WI needs is fighting openers and few more grinders in middle. if they can consistently score 400+ runs then they are ready. Until they have the mind and stamina to score 400+ runs , top 5 out of reach. West Indies has lots of hard working and fast bowlers...roach and andre rusell in bench. With bishoo spinning well their bowling is better than india. It is their batting especially opening. Gayle is inconsistent. So better they find someone consistent who can stay at wicket all day.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 16:24 GMT

    I am baffled by the people calling for Dwayne Bravo to be in the team as a "genuine allrounder"!! The one person Sammy can confidently say that he is better than is Dwayne Bravo, because at least Sammy has contributed with the ball. Dwayne Bravo is a big zero in everything except his fielding. And if none of the proper batsmen are performing (I hate to see my two favourites Sarwan and Samuels struggling to fit in), Andre Russell should be brought in at #6 since he seems to be the real thing in terms of ability and temperament. Sammy's place should rightly go to Jerome Taylor who seemed to just start blossoming as a strike bowler. If he does not perform, you can then replace him with Sammy, but due to the captaincy, Sammy is now an automatic choice which is not the right way to go. For Tests: 1) Gayle, 2) Barath, 3) K Edwards, 4) Darren Bravo, 5) Chanderpaul, 6) Russell, 7) Baugh, 8) Taylor, 9) Rampaul/Roach, 10) F Edwards, 11) Bishoo (Reserves: Sarwan, Samuels, Simmons, Benn, Sammy)

  • POSTED BY RealWI on | July 13, 2011, 16:04 GMT

    @RajeshMys, so a team with VVS, Dhoni, Raina, Dravid, harbhajah and sharma is a B team, the disrespect is at an all time high. India is the best now, but guys show some CLASS. This weak west Indian team has shown that your strong Indian team can't bat PACE. Only once did Indian pass 300 and that because Rampaul was sick. Dhoni pass 50 once. Your so-call young guns Mankund, Vijay, Kohli and kaina, were dismiss cheaply on a regular basis. It was the old greats VVS and Dravid that batted well. We know that Tendulkar is going to play until he is 50, so good luck in England. I can promise you this, next time West Indies play Indian you will lose. The young WI kids at the top of the order will be more experience, and our pace bowling attack would be Edwards, rampaul, roach, Russell, Gabriel, Holder. If sammy didn't drop Dravid we would have won the first test, so those who keep talking about weather, remember that. I am fan of Indian cricket, but these posting have me thinking, twice.

  • POSTED BY pallu11 on | July 13, 2011, 15:53 GMT

    ha ha ha. west indies will never make the top five. they didn't show any initiative this series. india just played bad. the west indies suck at cricket and will never get above position #7 because new zealand suck pretty bad too.

  • POSTED BY omar801 on | July 13, 2011, 15:48 GMT

    All those trying to water down West Indies' preformance by saying that India fielded a B team are simply disappointed that they didnt get the 3-0 and 5-0 that they so badly wanted.I for one am pleased with the 'positives' from this series.The fact that West Indies went the full 5 days for each match rain or no rain is commendable.In Barbados after tea when Baugh upped the tempo before the rain WI were still in with a shout,in Dominica when Fidel took a wicket with the first ball WI were still in with a shout.Under our previous captains and coaches how many matches were over in 3 or 4 days rain or no rain,countless.The fact that there is a goal is good.What was Gayle's goal when he was captain???See how hard he can hit the ball so he can get a 20/20 contract somewhwere and run off when the West Indies need him.Do 1 thing for me Sammy,score some runs and silence your critics........Once the guys(players) are behind you anything is possible

  • POSTED BY likeintcricket on | July 13, 2011, 15:29 GMT

    @Clydal Lovence, Now you are talking cheap. I am not an Indian but this Indian batting lineup is just fantastic. Imagine Sachin, Sehwag. Gambhir and Yuvraj playing in the team with Dravid, Laxman and Dhoni. And Imagine if they are playing in India it could be a Innings whitewash. At least we watched some exciting cricket thanks to a second string Indian side. WI has always produces great talent and some of the current players are very good but they have to work very hard on their game, play for their country and avoid internal politics to become a force again.

  • POSTED BY Sanoop_r on | July 13, 2011, 15:24 GMT

    @Clydal Lovence: I dont know which piece of paper you were reading to state that the team could crush Windies!!! Did u read that the All time World XI was playing against the Windies? Competitive teams were sent for this tour and they did the job, period. The fact remains that WE ARE THE NO.1 TEST TEAM IN THE WORLD and no amount of shouting your organs out through FB can bring that ranking down...

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 15:08 GMT

    Why people talk about "IF - if it did not run" & "BUT - if not rained"... fact, India did not play proper cricket. Only Indian team has lost in W.I chasing 120.

  • POSTED BY S.N.Singh on | July 13, 2011, 15:01 GMT

    I THINK DARREN SAMMY IS GETTING LIKE THEIR COACH GIBSON. TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT THEY ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR. SINCE WEST INDIES STARTED TO PLAY THE ODI AGAINST PAKISTAN, I WAS AKING ABOUT CHANSERPAUL UNTIL I HEARD HE HAS PROBLEMS WITH GIBSON AND THE ADMINISTRATION. CHANDERPAUL IS NEEDED IN THE ODI AND TEST CRICKET. I KNOW THAT GIBSON NEITHER SAMMY DON'T KNOW THAT. CHANDERPAUL IS NEEDED TO BUILD PARTNERSHIP IN ODI AND TEST AND SHOULD BE ALLOWED AND IN DOING SO HE HAS TO BAT HIGHER IN THE ORDER. ONPERSON I WOULD LIKE TO SINGLE OUT IS "BISHOO" HE IS AN EXTRA ORDINARY PLAYER IN THE WEST INDIES SIDE. HE GOT WICKETS IN ALL THE MATCHES. AS A "LEGS-PINNER" STARTING HIS CAREER. HJE PLAYED IN T20,ODI AND TEST AGAINST PAKISTAN AND INDIA, AND COMMAND RESPECT FROM ALL THE PLAYERS. HE GOT WICKETS IN T20, ODI AND TEST WHICH IS UNUSUAL FOR A LEG-SPINNER. S.N. SINGH U S A.

  • POSTED BY Munsta101 on | July 13, 2011, 15:00 GMT

    Chesney Hughes - get him in there! Another hundred today for Derbyshire.

    And he can bowl a bit too - handy for the shorter format.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2011/content/current/player/252833.html

  • POSTED BY CandidIndian on | July 13, 2011, 14:51 GMT

    I am really surprised with reaction of WI players and fans,which is a disgrace to golden memories and achievements of WI team of the past.India obviously did not considered WI team as threat and hence they rested so many first choice players.This should have been taken as disrespect by WI team,that if Indians are not finding us competitive enough we will show them that they did a mistake by not sending a full strength team.But WI lost T20 , ODI and then test series to India and still their fans are happy that they showed fight, common guys what message you guys are giving to strong teams, that send a second string team to WI ,and WI team and fans in-spite of losing will celebrate that their team has put up a fight.This is the attitude of minnows and certainly not expected from a great cricketing nation like WI.

  • POSTED BY Truemans_Ghost on | July 13, 2011, 14:13 GMT

    Top five by 2015 sounds a fairly modest, acheivable ambition to me. 4 years is enough for a young green talent discovered tomorrow to be approaching his prime. Criticism of Sammy here sounds all rather harsh. You can hardly expect him to say negative gloomy things about himself and his team. Seems to me Sammy is a good skipper or WI in the situation they are in at the moment. I'm with blackie on Gibson- a good coach who wants to build a professional team. Disappointing that many West Indians seem to want him and Sammy to fail. Its all very sad. We probably don't want to see the West Indies murdering us like they did all through my youth but I'd rather see them as a good, proud team.

  • POSTED BY Navin84 on | July 13, 2011, 13:42 GMT

    Can someone plz tell me when in WI next international assignment and against which team?

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 13:35 GMT

    India played a pathetic series. No.1 Test team?? My foot!! On paper, India had a group of players who were supposed to crush the West Indies in both the ODIs and the Tests. What happened? Windies won the last two ODIs and in spite of the weather, the final two tests were drawn. Now Mr. drtrinileggie, first of all, if you are a leader, whatever decisions taken on an executive level are to be echoed. If the board says No.5 in 4 years, the captain must echo it to the public. The only place he can and must show his disagreement is at executive level meetings.What do you want? A captain who keeps blasting the board and their decisions while the most important thing(winning) is not being done? Compare DW Bravo with Sammy? DW Bravo has been a disgrace for the past two series. Compare Sammy's performances with especially the ball with that of our other bowlers. Interesting, eh? What does eloquence have to do with being a good captain? Under the circumstances Sammy has done a good job!

  • POSTED BY wifan69 on | July 13, 2011, 13:21 GMT

    W I fan here...Sammy i love ur dedication to our cricket but seriously dude i hope u r talking about 0ne day cricket...this is what i think, when shiv retires we as a west indians we should give up TEST cricket cause all the other teams gonna insult us. As you can see all these youngster care about is making runs off of every ball. If wasn't were shiv we wouldn't have won against pak and draw against india..its simple the batsmen don't know how to control there aggression and the bowlers aren't fit enough to play test cricket...

  • POSTED BY rayinto on | July 13, 2011, 13:09 GMT

    Really Sammy! Sammy is in the team as a bowler ahead of Kemar Roach, Jerome Taylor, and Andre Russel? Come on Sammy! Shake out that brainwash from Hilaire & Gibson. The reality is if you are playing as a bowler, those 3 qualify ahead of you. The truth is your playing position is captain!

  • POSTED BY cricchic on | July 13, 2011, 12:44 GMT

    ok ..I am serious fed up of the comment, Indian played their 2nd string team, and a bunch of ifs and buts, Fact is W.I also played with a 2nd string team, Gayle, Taylor, Bravo were missing. # 2. How many time were incorrect decisions made against batsmen at critical times in the match, Samuel s, Chanderpaul, Sammy, Dravid was caught and was not given out... those major glitches allowed for the result we have today however the results would have been far different...

  • POSTED BY RajeshMys on | July 13, 2011, 12:24 GMT

    justprashanth, try to see things in the right perspective,man! In the 2nd test, India needed only 3 wickets to win, & if rain had not interrupted, they would have grabbed those 3 wickets & won. In the 3rd test also, rain took away a lot of time & Chanderpaul stood between India & Victory! No great team of yesteryears could have won by scoring at 5 runs per over in a Test & that too when the opposition resorts to negative bowling,like the Windies bowlers did on the 5th day.You can score at 5 runs per over only in a ODI or T-20, Test cricket is a totally different ball game.And Dhoni has never claimed that his side is as good as the great Windies or Aussie teams of yester years!Learn to accept the fact that this Indian team under Dhoni is far ahead of the Indian teams of previous years, when it comes to mental toughness & never say die attitude!They are winning Tests abroad, which never happened in the past! World Cup came back to India after 28 years!What more do you want?

  • POSTED BY skyeshwin on | July 13, 2011, 12:17 GMT

    To those guys who say that this so-called India B team have won comprehensively,well,this India B team will become the real Indian team when Sachin, Rahul, Laxman will retire in the next couple of years. WI were never expected to put such a good fight. The pride of many of the Indian fans here calling India as a No 1 team is a farce. Its just according to the ratings that show India as the No 1 team. In real, they have so far failed up to their billing. They have never had an attacking mindset in the field and I doubt they will have in the future. I admire Dhoni's calmness and composure but his pro-activeness is not even half of what Ganguly had.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 11:55 GMT

    Its one thing criticizing Darren Sammy as the Board puppet. What solution do u offer? The West Indies didnot play players from India but the Indian Team so there is no merit in the suggestion that they were not full strength.The average age of the West Indian team is 26 years and I wonder what's Indian. It the next World Cup most of the present players will still be around but I can't say that for India. Bravo West Indies!

  • POSTED BY blackie on | July 13, 2011, 11:54 GMT

    I am assuming that all the negative comments in regards to Sammy statements are from Non-Windies fans. That would be understandable. If they are from Windies fans that would be a shock. Don't usually do this but to DRTRINILEGGIE; Ramdin is a good keeper, but so is Baugh and the others we tried recently and Ramdin averages 22 with the bat in test so he doesnt present a strong case for selection. In 135 tests and one day innings for Windies, he has passed 50 only 9 times. 6% of the time. Hardly dependable. To Richard Lavill; stop talking trash. Rampaul averages 20 with the bat in tests and has taken his share of wickets since coming back. Dont you pay attention to anything. Some 'knowledgeable' observers are asking for Gibson's head. Why??? Because he doesnt tolerate the junk that some players want to do??? Sure, get rid of him like how we got rid of Dyson and many others. Indiscipline is one of, but not our only problem. Lets get rid of the problems one by one and get us back to #1.

  • POSTED BY 30-30-150 on | July 13, 2011, 11:50 GMT

    ALL THOSE WHO SAY INDIA WON THE SERIES WITHOUT DOMINANCE, GO GET A LIFE..! had the weather not interrupted in the last 2 games, INDIA would have won the series '3-0' EASILY.......... IF YOU STILL ARGUE THAT INDIA IS NOT THE BEST TEST TEAM,, WELL, THAT WOULD ONLY MEAN THAT YOU DON'T FOLLOW CRICKET AT ALL.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 11:34 GMT

    And for Sammy to say his place is justified by his bowling, well he'd soon by found out on flat wickets. I could imagine he'd go for a fair few in Australia and the sub continent. I'd echo the thoughts of another commenter, that Sammy is a puppet of the West Indies Cricket Board. When Floyd Reifer was captain, who was in the side? Sammy. Who agrees with the WICB aim to win the World Cup in 2015? Sammy. Who now comes out with an unrealistic aim, supported by the Board? Sammy. Sammy is the yes man of West Indies cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 11:25 GMT

    Positive statements by lower ranked means competitiveness will increase in international cricket community and in every format of the cricket it will make every game contestable.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 11:17 GMT

    1st things 1st, They just got flogged by india missing 3 batsman(sachin, sehwag, ghambir) they were also missing THEIR BEST BOWLER Zaheer Khan, they got a couple of wins in the odi series because a 4th batsman yuvraj singh was also injured. Now for west indies i cant see them being 5th team... India is best, then england and south africa battling for 2nd spot, then australia. Then there is sri lanka with a TOTALLY HOPELESS test bowling attack, but good batting line up and pakistan with a very good bowling attack and some inconsistent but quite talented batsman with Misbah and Younis to guide them. that put west indies 7th (ahead of NZ and bangladesh, who cant bat and have no decent quick bowlers) West indies has a GOOD BOWLING ATTACK they really do, sammy, rampaul,edwards and bishoo are wicket takers. Its WI batting that is the worry, chanders retiring soon? sars out of form, gayle in trouble, nash out of form, positive is the 110 from kirk edwards and adrian barath is one to watch.

  • POSTED BY Silva-Surfa on | July 13, 2011, 10:55 GMT

    Lofty ambitions indeed!!...it's refreshing to see that there's goals to be aimed, but it will be some achievement to get it done in 4 years. Some people on here are using their biased, closed-minded opinions to laugh-off such a possibility, but in my opinion the Windies does have natural talent, but lacks the structual organised discipline, that has fallen foul in performances over the years. If they can overcome that minor hurdle by getting a stable and consistant choice of players, who can work hard for each other as a collective unit, will be the first step. For all that to happen, there needs to be a understanding between the players, coaches, management and board, all working on the same page. If that doesn't change and remains as it is now, then we'll still be bordering on mediocrity, regardless of how much talent comes through between now and then.

  • POSTED BY Valavan on | July 13, 2011, 10:55 GMT

    @aaqibali, first Wi never asked India to sent 2nd grade team and WI itself didnt have the services of Dwayne bravo, Gayle, taylor, so dont jump over. Aus will build up and reconquer their no1 very soon. all indian fans, try to win more than 1 test away from India. then you can really content for series win.

  • POSTED BY drtrinileggie on | July 13, 2011, 10:25 GMT

    Are you for real? things to do dissolve this pathertic board remove this captain who CANNOT JUSTIFY HIS TEAM SELECTION HE IS KEEPING OUT THE LIKES OF A RUSSEL DW BRAVO THOSE WHO SUPORT HIM HAVE OBVIOUSLY NEVER HAD THE HONOUR OF LEADING A TEAM. 1) BE ABLE TO MAKE THE TEAM 2) HAVE THE RESPECT OF THE PLAYERS 3) TACTICALLY SOUND (VERY QUESTIONABLE) 4) ELOQUENT (DEFINITELY ILLITERATE)

    MODEL T&T. FANTASTIC CAPTAIN AND VICE (D RAMDIN) GREAT ADMINISTRATION.

    IN SUMMARY GET RID OF THE BOARD AND ITS SELECTORS AND THE PUPPET CAPTAIN AND PERHAPS YOU MAY HAVE A CHANCE.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 10:20 GMT

    Some of the WI selection is totally backward. They say Sammy is the squad is at the expense of Roach, the brightest young fast bowler in the West Indies for a long time, so why not get rid of Rampaul, who is slower, less talented and older than Roach? I'd take Roach over Rampaul all day. Rampaul adds nothing with the bat either so it's not like he is in the side of his batting skills.

  • POSTED BY zarasochozarasamjho on | July 13, 2011, 10:09 GMT

    Good luck West Indies.

    As most Pakistani suuporters, we always want to see WI around the top 3.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 10:09 GMT

    As long as Rain, the twelfth man plays for them in every match, they might get to No. 1 soon. No rain, don't have that stupid dream.

  • POSTED BY Midonoff on | July 13, 2011, 10:07 GMT

    There are some bias statements here. Well West Indies has a plan for the next 3 years. What's india's plan to stay at the top for the next 3 to 5 years, is it to rely on the points system? As far as am aware India has dropped 2 points because of their poor ability to dominate a rank 7 team, but still remains on top of the table. In the past West Indies and Australia didn't rely on the points sytem? India need to start winning ruthlessly, handsomely and put away teams easliy that are way below them. More points can be dropped by the end of the England series. I know they are not at the same level as WI and Australia in the past but show your worth at No.1.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 10:07 GMT

    Such a bunch of dreamers!

  • POSTED BY justprashanth on | July 13, 2011, 9:54 GMT

    @RajeshMys Dude.. ur comments are a little harsh...India would have won 3-0.. in ur dreams. Windies tried till the last. India just walked away. U should be laughing at our so called No.1 test team who cant even give a shot at chasing a small total. This Indian team will never be spoken of in the same league as that of the Former Windies or the Aussie great teams. For the record... I am from India and a huge fan of test cricket.

  • POSTED BY likeintcricket on | July 13, 2011, 9:41 GMT

    WI has got potential to be top 5 but than Pakistan and NZ also has same potential. But they don't have the same cricketing structure like Australia and South Africa. Australia and South Africa are great sporting nations and they will take #1 and #2 in the future.Currently India and England are at the top because of their experience batting lineup.Though It is hard to find substitutes for Sachin, Dravid and Laxman. Similarly post Muralitharan Srilanka won't be that awesome. England and India will retain the top 5 rating due to their superior financial status. The fifth spot will be up for grab and any country could take this spot.WI and Pak always produces great talents but their cricket structure are in a mess with internal fighting and politics. I still believe Srilanka will retain its #5 position because of its consistency though if WI and Pakistan seriously work on their talent they could end up anywhere in top 5.

  • POSTED BY Marcio on | July 13, 2011, 9:36 GMT

    Keep reaming,@ Pankaj_INDIA. India barely beat Australia at home a few months ago, and except for fortunate umpiring in the first test which India won by a single wicket after being outplayed most of the game, the series would have been 1-1. Australia will beat India in Australia, as long as we don't have one team dictating who the umpires can be and threatening to quit when things don't go their way.

  • POSTED BY ranpath on | July 13, 2011, 9:21 GMT

    '...Creating a professional ethos, improving fitness levels ..." well you better keep Gayle out of this side. Because he is the man who has , in the not too recent past, claimed that he did not need footwork as a batsman and also criticised the amount of and need for training exercises. Professional and improved fitness indeed ......

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 9:07 GMT

    for the record i'm not West indian and never much took a big interest in their cricket as i'm an England, India supporter but got to say this guy sammy is a true gent and so far from what i have since is a good and humble leader. He also appears to be an excellent diplomat.Nothing he says seems to sound arrogant and he just wants the best for West Indian cricket and will do what he can for him while in charge. Great to see this kind of attitude. Hats off to you Mr Sammy

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 9:03 GMT

    Hard work rarely fails but can these undoubtedly talented players really apply themselves and make the West Indies a force again? I would suggest that they all sit down and watch 'Fire in Babylon' as a start. If that doesn't inspire them, nothing will.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 8:59 GMT

    This seems like a joke!

    Indian team was FAR below par ..No sehwag, gambhir..No zaheer... Still it was not a CONVINCING performace by windies on GROUND..rather it seems convincing on papers but every body knows the 2 alleys of windies ...Weather and Chanderpaul in 2nd and 3rd test respectively!

    Plus INDIA..ENGLAND..SOUTHAFRICA are confirm 3 slots for next 4 years! australia srilanka and Pakistan are battling nations to grab other 3 slots of top 6!

    so windies must think of securing their test status at first...BANGLADESH can zimbabwe can be tough rivals for them given conditionS!

  • POSTED BY maddy20 on | July 13, 2011, 8:08 GMT

    They may as well aim for the 2016 WC! LOL :D This guy is talking as if they have just beaten India in all 3 formats when what really happened is the opposite that too by an India B team!

  • POSTED BY oj..cricfan on | July 13, 2011, 7:58 GMT

    Thanks to bad weather WI sneaked with a 1-0 loss. If not for rain they would have lost 3-0. If they play full 15 sessions they will not be able to save a test match against good teams leave alone winning.

  • POSTED BY Ramesh_Joseph on | July 13, 2011, 7:20 GMT

    I think West Indies need a reality check on their India Test series. India's top 3 batsmen and top 2 test bowlers (Zaheer, Sreesanth) were missing from the series. At no time during the series did they look like winning any match and you cannot move up the rankings unless you start winning matches. They were saved in the second test only due to the weather, otherwise they would have definitely lost it. In the 3rd test India looked in command throughout the match. Only the Chandrapaul -Edwards partnership saved the match for them. All these happened in conditions most favourable to the Home team. To move up the ladder -you need to win matches and you need to do well in away conditions too.

  • POSTED BY ABP235 on | July 13, 2011, 7:04 GMT

    I dont understand what some of my fellow Indians are saying - that WI achievement was nothing extraordinary. I cant take that. India is No.1 side and WI is no.8 side for heaven's sake. Even assuming our top 3 batsmen and a key bowler was not there, still Indian team was much stronger than WI. So a 3-2 win in ODIs, a win in the Clowny format (T20 that is) and a failure to get a victory on Day 5 of Dominica test are not great achievements for us, but indeed, excellent progress for the WI. Our bowling is so weak and will be royally exposed in England against Cook, Strauss & Trott, unless they get Praveen, Zaheer and Sreesanth to use swining conditions and Ishant to get occasional bounce. Still they will still be weak, as Zaheer is back from injury and everyone knows how erratic Sreesanth and Ishant can be, when they forget that they have a head. Same applies to Harbhajan too - his 4 wickets on the last day against this WI batting line up was not heroic by any means.

  • POSTED BY Pankaj_INDIA on | July 13, 2011, 7:03 GMT

    WI can replace OZ from 5th position. in the current top 5 ranking, only oz and SL are weak, other 3 i.e. india eng SA will remain top 3 for next 4-5 years atleast. so WI will have to displace either of SL or OZ, which is possibility considering awful situation both teams are in.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 6:37 GMT

    I think what they shud do is try to save there test status :)

    a really depleted Indian side do 3-0 to them in Odi with 9 men on rest then they won 2 not becoz they played well but becoz India B rested all of there bowlers in 4 & 5 th game then in test they would have been 3-0 have rain not interfered in game 2nd 170 overs washed and 3rd about 50 overs they never ever looked like beating that Depleted Indian side which i m sure could have beated by NZ at there home

    i really think they shud try to save test status i m pretty much sure Bangladesh is really better side if Chris gayle stays out :)

  • POSTED BY RajeshMys on | July 13, 2011, 6:14 GMT

    West Indies breaking into the Top 5 by 2015 ? Joke of the year !! This Darren Sammy is a real Joker & I burst out laughing whenever I read his funny statements! Raina, Dhoni & VVS took India to 308 for 6, a lead of 104 runs, & this guy is complementing his bowlers for bowling well!! The batting collapsed for 190 & he is praising his batsmen for conceding a lead of only 11 to India!! Face this Sammy, but for rain interruptions, India would have won the Test series 3-0.The Indian seniors opted to skip this tour of Windies, but they are back for the England tour! What does this prove? The Windies are so weak, that the Indian Superstars felt even without them, the second string players will be able to win in the Caribbean, & that's what happened! Maybe Sammy is not aware, he became the first Windies captain to lose both Test & ODI series against india at home!!The West Indies are woefully short of talent & class1 Forget top 5, let them avoid getting ranked below even Zimbabwe & Bangladesh

  • POSTED BY simonviller on | July 13, 2011, 5:59 GMT

    @ Smudgeon : I have said the same seveal times before .If our front five batsmen were doing their jobs ,Sammy's batting would no have been a problem ,but as it is now they are counting on him and the lower order to do the job .

  • POSTED BY Leggie on | July 13, 2011, 5:42 GMT

    Seems like a very ambitious plan for which West Indies cricket is still not ready for. While their performance against India was somewhat above average, it was no where close to what is expected out of a good International cricket team. WI performance only got magnified because Indian batting consistently failed - the key ones being Vijay & Kohli and to some extent Abhinav Mukund. To India's defense though, one could argue that these were more of backups for Sehwag / Gambhir / Tendulkar. WI batting however was consistently poor, save for the chancy centuries of Chanderpaul and Edwards. Their cupboard - barring Gayle - looks awfully empty and importantly their captain looks out of place in the team. For now the plan looks hollow even on paper.

  • POSTED BY simonviller on | July 13, 2011, 5:40 GMT

    Every one is entitled to an opinion as we know . Some people keeps calling for Gayle's return ,but I think that he has done too much damage to his relationship with the board to return as it stands now . He is not a good opening batsman for test cricket ,only for the shorter form of the game and is more suitable for a no: three position ,so lets move on to the next step . We could give young powell , Simmons ,Brathwaite ,Smith or Edwards another chance to open .There is no shortage of potential openers .Yes I said S mith [DevON Smith ] that is ,wE SHOULD TRY TO HELP HIM WITH HIS PROBLEMS INSTEAD OF DISPOSING OF HIM AS WE SO OFTEN DO .

  • POSTED BY simonviller on | July 13, 2011, 5:40 GMT

    Every one is entitled to an opinion as we know . Some people keeps calling for Gayle's return ,but I think that he has done too much damage to his relationship with the board to return as it stands now . He is not a good opening batsman for test cricket ,only for the shorter form of the game and is more suitable for a no: three position ,so lets move on to the next step . We could give young powell , Simmons ,Brathwaite ,Smith or Edwards another chance to open .There is no shortage of potential openers .Yes I said S mith [DevON Smith ] that is ,wE SHOULD TRY TO HELP HIM WITH HIS PROBLEMS INSTEAD OF DISPOSING OF HIM AS WE SO OFTEN DO .

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 5:37 GMT

    I can understand why people are saying India could have win the final test and rain saved WI. Well if there was no rain and we had another day and a half play, and if Samuels and Sammy were not given out by default, then India could have been chasing 250 to 350 with enough time to get bowl out. Its amazing how people can make bias analysis. I still dont under why there is so much controversy when there is a mistake using th UDRS and when it is not used and a wrong decision is made, it goes unnoticed. Of course there will be mistakes but the UDRS will correct 9 out of 10 mistakes leaving 1 out of 10 debateable.

  • POSTED BY nskaile on | July 13, 2011, 5:15 GMT

    TO all the ppl who are askin Qs like if Sammy deserve place in playiong 11. I say he sure does. WI team is down in confidence is way too down.... hes the first WI cricketer i heard talking about all this stuff first time. Hes tryin to lift his team up, hes trying to make them believe tht they r gud enough to face anyone. Confidence play big role in any sport,ask any sports person. in his interview he said b4 WC he talked to his team mates and told them they r not playin fo HIM, they r playing fo the country. That was a great line. Hes tryin to wake WI player up..... hes not just talkin crap....he said he wants to brake in top5, he dint say he will make his team#1 by 2015. I like this guy and hes gonna do somethin....I hope he get wht he dreams of...

  • POSTED BY mrgupta on | July 13, 2011, 4:38 GMT

    I am unable to understand what is it that Sammy and other West Indian supporters are happy about. They lost T20, They lost ODI series and they never looked winning any of the 3 tests. All they managed was to escape defeat, thanks to rain, in the last 2 tests. Sammy is behaving as if they had Won the World Cup or the Test Championship. They lost to a 2nd string Indian team and that too at home and yet they think they made progress. Infact if i remember correctly they Won a tests each against England, Sri-Lanka and Pakistan but they failed to win any tests in this series despite India being severely depleted. Where is the progress?? Why the Euphoria?

  • POSTED BY crictime11 on | July 13, 2011, 4:30 GMT

    i think its very admirable tht WI is finally awakening their desire to be the best once again and I want to see them make... the WI's of the 80's were legends... it'd be thrilling to see this team match up to their former selves ... plus it'd make cricket exceedingly exciting as i believe WI always had amazing talent. good luck to you Darren Sammy... Hope to see you and your team at full strength against us (Pakistan) if possible against us!

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 3:58 GMT

    I appreciate his words but he's not worth his place in the side. Gayle should come back as captain and for God's sake get Roach back in there, he's done nothing wrong. Having Rampaul and Sammy in the team ahead of him is a joke. Good luck in getting to No.5 - that means getting better than New Zealand, yeah? Hardly a pinnacle of achievement but its better than nothing. They just don't have any decent players and there can't be much in their domestic cricket if this is their best team. Bravo looks okay, Chanderpaul is still good but getting on, and Sarwan, bar the odd innings, has always been about as good as Mark Ramprakash.

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | July 13, 2011, 3:25 GMT

    If WI are to be a top 5 team by 2015 (a sensible objective) they have to realise that Gayle, Chanderpaul and Sarwan won't be there. They have to bring through a new crop of young players and live with some poor results until they mature. Sammy seems like a good captain (never mind that he isn't the best cricketer on the side, the captaincy is the most important thing right now) so give him the team and let him guide them. DON'T give young players a few games and drop them. WI have some talented young players, they need to have faith and stick with them. I grew up idolising Gary Sobers and I hate to see WI struggling as they have done recently.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 3:05 GMT

    darren always make me laugh with his funny statements but i appreciate his desire

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 2:57 GMT

    hahaha against world class spinners in subcontinent pitches they struggle so much. lolzz

  • POSTED BY b4u8me2 on | July 13, 2011, 2:34 GMT

    In my opinion the best test team is comprised of a good All Rounder occupying that No. 6 position. Having Darren Sammy playing as one of the four strike bowlers makes the WI team unbalanced as he keeps out more potent strike bowlers in Roach or Taylor. I have no problem with Darren Sammy but if he is going to play then he needs to improve his batting and occupy that No. 6 spot in the team. Otherwise he needs to make way for either Andre Russell of Dwayne Bravo. That way effectively the team will have 6 batsmen and 5 bowlers as the All Rounder, as long as he is performing, will make that No. 6 batsman and the 5th bowler. Darren Sammy's bowling will never win WI matches but he is a very good support bowler. That is why he needs to play as that All Rounder at No. 6 and not as one of the strike bowlers.

  • POSTED BY satanswish on | July 13, 2011, 2:24 GMT

    A place in Top5 is distant far for WI. They play so ordinary cricket, should first concentrate to ensure that they are not fighting with Bangladesh for bottom spot.

  • POSTED BY Hindh on | July 13, 2011, 2:20 GMT

    Cant agree more with Zshan khan what is this sammy talking about after losing all 3 series possible on the tour....

  • POSTED BY SriramNatarajan on | July 13, 2011, 2:06 GMT

    Though I can understand Sammy's passion, it shud be remembered that if rain had not been there India wud ve easily won 2nd and 3rd tests.. people are fooled by the final result of 1-0.. and that too missing top 4 players.. But WI bowling is very good..

  • POSTED BY VisBal on | July 13, 2011, 2:00 GMT

    Sammy playing at #8 shows that he recognises he is playing mainly as a bowler and not as an all-rounder. For the sake of team balance, WI need an extra bowler/bowling all-rounder in the side (notice what happened in the 3rd Test: they lost the initiative when Rampaul was unable to take the field). The number 7 spot then opens up for either Dwayne Bravo or Andre Russell. Both of them can bat and both are more than adequate bowlers. But should Sammy bowl ahead of Roach or Taylor? Maybe so, based on his recent numbers: yu can't drop someone with that performance. Moreover, he adds a little more variety to the attack.

  • POSTED BY on | July 13, 2011, 0:35 GMT

    "I think I have justified my selection as a bowler in the team" hahahaha sammy ur not only a captain u r a sailor too seven wickets in 6 innings and he say he justified he position if the other 3 bowler bowled with that same average only 5 batsmen would out every innings wake up sammy

  • POSTED BY on | July 12, 2011, 23:38 GMT

    I am surprised by reaction from both sides after this series. WI fans, team and former players are behaving as if WI won this series. Indian fans and media is behaving as if India would have lost this series but the truth is India won series in all format and comfortably. They were 3-0 in ODI (before last 2) and never looked like losing any Test match. Important thing is to note it here is that top five Indian players were not there in test series and even Dhoni, Dravid or VVS were not there in ODI. In test matches, rain also helped WI, they got away in second test and third test rain ruined one day. If that one day would have been there India needed to chase target in many more overs and would have won this match. So, My take for this series is WI never looked as a good challenging team anytime and they really need to improve as they got defeated in all format by India A team and not real Indian team.

  • POSTED BY xenon555 on | July 12, 2011, 23:18 GMT

    Highly unlikely but if this happens there is hope. 1) Gayle returns - Best batsman on the team hands down who will score very well at a good rate 2) Kirk Edwards continues to play with his fighting attitude - There are tons of guys who have scored a century on debut but Kirk seems to be a real warrior, big part of WI future 3) Bravo can develop at a normal pace - Poor Darren has had too much pressure to become the next Brian Lara. Hopefully with Gayle there will be less pressure. 4) Kemar Roach lives up to his potential - When Kemar is at his best he is right up there with Steyn and Anderson and better than Rampaul and Edwards 5) The batting order is solidified - Even if Gayle doesnt return Lendl and Barath cant be so inconsistent. Also WI really needs some more from Samuels, Baugh, and Sammy on the batting end or Brendan Nash should make his way back 2015 team1) Gayle 2) Barath 3) Kirk 4) Bravo 5) Shiv 6) Marlon 7) Baugh 8) Sammy 9) Roach 10) Edwards/Rampaul 11) Bishoo

  • POSTED BY on | July 12, 2011, 23:09 GMT

    how would anyone know who woud have won the second test..It could have been India but it could have been WI also, cricket is a game of uncertainty and in the last test India could have ended up trying to save the match with WI making inroads,nobody knows..and stop talking about rain and if and buts, cause WI had India 82 for 6 and dravid got dropped and ended up making a century in one inning..so u see, no more ifs and buts.

  • POSTED BY ZshanKhan on | July 12, 2011, 22:29 GMT

    Somebody needs to give this guy a reality check. Post match interviews he said he was proud of the WI fighting spirt. They lost the T20, Odi and the test match. What fighting spirit is he talking about? If a full strength Indian team was playing, the scoreline would read 5-0 and 3-0. He talks a big game but fails to deliver.

  • POSTED BY on | July 12, 2011, 22:27 GMT

    well sammy is a good captain and has led the team from the front. But it looks like dwayne bravo does not like to play under sammy's captaincy.If the windies could resolve all their internal issues they would be a really competitive side.

  • POSTED BY Puffin on | July 12, 2011, 22:21 GMT

    That's a bold statement of intent, you can't fault his passion and if things go their way, it could just happen. It should never be too easy for one team to dominate world cricket and WI should be part of that process. He needs to ensure that WI compete for entire tests, not just in patches and then falling apart in a heap as so often happens. Wish him luck, he's going to need it.

  • POSTED BY on | July 12, 2011, 22:21 GMT

    @maninthewoods,india never seemed in control of any of the games, WI made mistakes and handed the match India won to them......india never looked like world champs here.......

  • POSTED BY smudgeon on | July 12, 2011, 22:10 GMT

    I'm amazed that someone like Roach can't hold down a place in the starting XI - however, that's cricket. It's also indicative of the Windies' main problem being their batting, rather than the bowling. And I think the criticism of Sammy's position as an allrounder would be unwarranted if the specialist batsmen were doing their job (full credit to Chanders & K. Edwards in the last test) - he does his job with the ball well, but how many runs is a #8 really expected to get? Not many, when the top 7 are pulling their weight. I think the Windies have a good, talented young side who can (and should) develop into quite a good side in a few years time. There's a lot to like about Bishoo & Rampaul in particular (and when Roach gets back in the side, it'll be a good attack). Still waiting for the bus to arrive with Darren Bravo's raw talent, but it'll get there - provided he doesn't collapse under the weight of expectation to be the new Brian Lara.

  • POSTED BY Balb on | July 12, 2011, 22:09 GMT

    A very fair statement by Darren Sammy. But I believe moving forward will have to be a decision to encourage, agree and accept the fact that West indies will have to include the likes of Gayle, Sarwan, Dwayne Bravo, Kemar Roach, Andre Russell and Jerome Taylor. Added to this is the talents deriving from the cricketing school in Barbados. There will be new faces pressing in on the West Indies selectors based from performance from the WI under nineteen team.

    It is time for more that one team and more than one captain for tests, ODI's and twenty20.

  • POSTED BY CollisKing on | July 12, 2011, 22:08 GMT

    We have been in the doldrums so long, I was hoping for top 5 by 2012 at the latest.

    Captain Sammy deserves a run I suppose, my advice to him would be.

    This "powderpuff" 4-man Windies bowling unit is a pace bowler short. Improve your batting or find a genuine all-rounder to bat at six (Dwayne Bravo). Fidel Edwards workload needs to be carefully scheduled. Marlon Samuels to open the batting.

  • POSTED BY on | July 12, 2011, 21:33 GMT

    yeah

    player need to have good realtions wth da board den only de can prosper.

  • POSTED BY tappee74 on | July 12, 2011, 21:33 GMT

    I have read the above article with great attention and anyone who has seen Sammy,knows he is very enthusiastic.I think he has given his best and is a die hard,but does he has the ability of a test all rounder?WI cricket is slowly unveiling a string of young players who hold the key for the future.Bishoo is a good find who is also capable with the bat,Rampaul is becoming an interesting bowler and is also useful with the bat,Fidel is a decent opening bowler and has shown that he also can hang around. Kirk Edwards is surely in line,and what about Andre Russel,this is a youngman who should be in the team.We have Barath and Darren Bravo, two future stars and should the Gyale issue be resolved with Shiv and Bravo back i think we are ready for the future.

  • POSTED BY WTEH on | July 12, 2011, 21:23 GMT

    Do not joke around Sammy. Try to select for first 10, so WI don't have to play selections to get in to world cup.

  • POSTED BY on | July 12, 2011, 21:10 GMT

    It will be tough. If WI board were to behave the way they are right now, WI will not be one of the top fives even in next 20 yrs. There is no lack of talent in Caribbean, its just that there management leaves a lot to be desired.

  • POSTED BY maninthewoods on | July 12, 2011, 20:58 GMT

    Hey Sammy! You must have to accept India would have won the series 3-0 if there were no rain interruptions/bad light. But, anyways, you guys played well.

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  • POSTED BY maninthewoods on | July 12, 2011, 20:58 GMT

    Hey Sammy! You must have to accept India would have won the series 3-0 if there were no rain interruptions/bad light. But, anyways, you guys played well.

  • POSTED BY on | July 12, 2011, 21:10 GMT

    It will be tough. If WI board were to behave the way they are right now, WI will not be one of the top fives even in next 20 yrs. There is no lack of talent in Caribbean, its just that there management leaves a lot to be desired.

  • POSTED BY WTEH on | July 12, 2011, 21:23 GMT

    Do not joke around Sammy. Try to select for first 10, so WI don't have to play selections to get in to world cup.

  • POSTED BY tappee74 on | July 12, 2011, 21:33 GMT

    I have read the above article with great attention and anyone who has seen Sammy,knows he is very enthusiastic.I think he has given his best and is a die hard,but does he has the ability of a test all rounder?WI cricket is slowly unveiling a string of young players who hold the key for the future.Bishoo is a good find who is also capable with the bat,Rampaul is becoming an interesting bowler and is also useful with the bat,Fidel is a decent opening bowler and has shown that he also can hang around. Kirk Edwards is surely in line,and what about Andre Russel,this is a youngman who should be in the team.We have Barath and Darren Bravo, two future stars and should the Gyale issue be resolved with Shiv and Bravo back i think we are ready for the future.

  • POSTED BY on | July 12, 2011, 21:33 GMT

    yeah

    player need to have good realtions wth da board den only de can prosper.

  • POSTED BY CollisKing on | July 12, 2011, 22:08 GMT

    We have been in the doldrums so long, I was hoping for top 5 by 2012 at the latest.

    Captain Sammy deserves a run I suppose, my advice to him would be.

    This "powderpuff" 4-man Windies bowling unit is a pace bowler short. Improve your batting or find a genuine all-rounder to bat at six (Dwayne Bravo). Fidel Edwards workload needs to be carefully scheduled. Marlon Samuels to open the batting.

  • POSTED BY Balb on | July 12, 2011, 22:09 GMT

    A very fair statement by Darren Sammy. But I believe moving forward will have to be a decision to encourage, agree and accept the fact that West indies will have to include the likes of Gayle, Sarwan, Dwayne Bravo, Kemar Roach, Andre Russell and Jerome Taylor. Added to this is the talents deriving from the cricketing school in Barbados. There will be new faces pressing in on the West Indies selectors based from performance from the WI under nineteen team.

    It is time for more that one team and more than one captain for tests, ODI's and twenty20.

  • POSTED BY smudgeon on | July 12, 2011, 22:10 GMT

    I'm amazed that someone like Roach can't hold down a place in the starting XI - however, that's cricket. It's also indicative of the Windies' main problem being their batting, rather than the bowling. And I think the criticism of Sammy's position as an allrounder would be unwarranted if the specialist batsmen were doing their job (full credit to Chanders & K. Edwards in the last test) - he does his job with the ball well, but how many runs is a #8 really expected to get? Not many, when the top 7 are pulling their weight. I think the Windies have a good, talented young side who can (and should) develop into quite a good side in a few years time. There's a lot to like about Bishoo & Rampaul in particular (and when Roach gets back in the side, it'll be a good attack). Still waiting for the bus to arrive with Darren Bravo's raw talent, but it'll get there - provided he doesn't collapse under the weight of expectation to be the new Brian Lara.

  • POSTED BY on | July 12, 2011, 22:21 GMT

    @maninthewoods,india never seemed in control of any of the games, WI made mistakes and handed the match India won to them......india never looked like world champs here.......

  • POSTED BY Puffin on | July 12, 2011, 22:21 GMT

    That's a bold statement of intent, you can't fault his passion and if things go their way, it could just happen. It should never be too easy for one team to dominate world cricket and WI should be part of that process. He needs to ensure that WI compete for entire tests, not just in patches and then falling apart in a heap as so often happens. Wish him luck, he's going to need it.