West Indies v South Africa, 2nd Test, St Kitts, 2nd day June 20, 2010

End of the line for Chris Gayle

The time has come for the selectors to seek someone else to try to lift players out of their insecurity
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The theme of despair running through West Indies cricket for a decade and more has never been more blatant than in the current series against South Africa. It was increasingly so as the opposing batsmen gathered complimentary runs in the second Test at Warner Park on Friday and yesterday, three of them hundreds.

In the preceding five ODIs and the first Test, West Indies' batting lacked resolve and cricketing common sense (to use the phrase of coach Ottis Gibson). It will again be under pressure to survive against the weight of South Africa's mammoth total of 543 for six declared, the sixth over 500 in the West Indies' last 12 Tests. The bowling, further weakened by the unfitness of its fastest men, has been ineffective. When chances were offered as the ruthless South Africans built their strong foundation on Friday, they slipped through inattentive fingers. If not as many as the six put down in England's first innings at Kensington Oval last season or the same number fluffed in a single session at Lord's two months later, the three missed on the opening day on Friday were similarly debilitating. And, as usual, the overall fielding has been at a standard not expected even at the junior level.

Above all, the whole operation has been without direction.

When Graeme Smith won the toss on Friday, Chris Gayle immediately announced his disappointment that he would be kept in the field for a day or more on a pitch he described as 'a road'. He was simply resigned to his fate. In effect, he conceded the match was beyond West Indies before a ball was bowled. It was not a message his players, already short of self-belief, needed to hear.

The captain has never been one to exert unnecessary energy in the field. His movements befit his description of himself as the coolest dude in cricket. Now, reportedly carrying a strained groin, he was virtually motionless either at slip or short midwicket. His injury presumably prevented him from delivering a single over. He looked every bit the reluctant captain he declared himself to be in England last year. Gayle made bowling changes as if by rote. Even with the total passing 400 with only the three wickets down, he employed two short legs for his new offspinner Shane Shillingford. The Dominican has fit effortlessly into his role on his late entrance into Test cricket and responded manfully to his demands. But his figures were unflattering and undeserved. Only time will tell what damage they might have inflicted on his morale.

Others could have lessened Shillingford's load. He was called on for 52 overs, an amount he had never previously experienced. Sulieman Benn had 20 fewer. Ravi Rampaul and Dwayne Bravo had 18 each. The leader's attitude inevitably permeates his players.

Since he became captain three years ago, Gayle's main attributes have been the support of his players and his ability to lead from the front with his batting. The latter was most evident in his unbeaten 165, batting through the innings, and his 70-ball 102 in successive innings that led to the revival in the final two Tests in Australia late last year after an innings loss in the first.

That confidence was missing here. Perhaps his spirit has been finally crushed by the results leading into this series (19 losses against seven wins, four over Zimbabwe, in ODIs and Twenty20 Internationals for the year) and the loss of so many key players through injury.

The time has come for the selectors to seek someone else to try to lift players out of their insecurity. Gayle might even make the decision for himself. The perennial question arises. If not Gayle, then who? And if Gayle is replaced, would he stay on as the vital opening batsman he has been throughout his tenure in charge?

Dwayne Bravo is the answer to the first question. He is vice-captain and, for all the unfulfillment of his all-round talent, it is difficult to imagine him allowing things to drift as they did at Warner Park. His energy and enthusiasm are the antithesis of Gayle's cool. In the second case, Gayle would obviously be missed but equally, for all the Twenty20 tournaments mushrooming all over the planet and his widely publicised comments on Test cricket last year, international cricket has become too much of his life and he might find it difficult to abandon it altogether.

A rotation of captains over a dozen years, eight in all from Richie Richardson to Gayle, has made no difference to West Indies' woes. It might not do now either but, on the evidence of the last couple of months and, more especially, the last couple of days, Gayle has come to the end of the line.

Tony Cozier has written about and commentated on cricket in the Caribbean for nearly 50 years

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  • BULBIECRICKET on June 22, 2010, 5:48 GMT

    I HAVE ALWAYS RESPECT TONY'S COMMENTS AND IDEAS BUT THIS TIME I WILL HAVE TO DISAGREE. FIRST OF ALL W.I.P.A. AND THE W.I.C.B. WASTED TOO MANY TIME DISAGREEING, THE TIME SHOULD BE SPENT GROOMING THE PLAYERS WE HAVE. RAW TALENT LIKE WHAT WE HAD IN THE 60s, 70s, 80s AND PART OF THE 90s ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE. NEXT, MOST OF THE TEAM ARE UNDERPERFORMERS, THEY SHOULD LOSE THEIR PLACE IF THEY ARE NOT PERFORMING. IS RAMDIN THE ONLY KEEPER WE HAVE IN THE WHOLE CARIBBEAN? WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME HE SCORES A 50 ? IF GANGA IS THE BEST CAPTAIN IN THE CARIBBEAN, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME HE WON A SERIES IN THE DOMESTIC COMPETITION? {TWENTY/TWENTY IS NOT CRICKET} WHY DID CHANDERS, AND SARWI GAVE UP THE CAPTAINCY? I THINK GAYLE SHOULD GIVE UP THE CAPTAINCY AND CONCENTRATE ON HIS BATTING AND HAVE ANY CAPTAIN FROM THE PAST CAPTAIN THIS UNDER-PERFORMING TEAM. IT WOULD NOT MAKE A DAM DIFFERENCE, THEY WOULD LOSE JUST THE SAME. W.I.C.B. PLEASE, PLEASE SELECT THE BEST ELEVEN.

  • on June 20, 2010, 23:17 GMT

    ganga for captain!way better than gayle!

  • Ruthfrancois on June 20, 2010, 22:47 GMT

    With Gayle being one of the most senior players in the team and the West Indies Team being so short of experience;it's very difficult to see an easy change of captain now & with Bravo's recent performances leaving a lot to be desired.Gayle must be seriously spoken to by the West Indies Team Management and the Board re:his attitude towards captaincy and his lack of motivation to the younger players.Gayle can continue as Captain for a bit longer while Sarwan or Bravo understudy him as viceCaptain.

    There is no doubt quite a lot of talent around the West Indies;however,a great deal more will have to be done to harness our future prospects.The team needs inspirational leadership,assurance & confidence in itself to do well at the highest level of the game.Sadly,we don't seem to have too many people who are ready to accept the captaincy mantle presently.The selectors will have to be more astute with team composition;& focus more on a balanced team that will better represent the West Indes.

  • umpire on June 20, 2010, 22:45 GMT

    I agree with Tony that the end of the line of Chris Gayle as captain of the West Indies is (or should) near. His languid, nonchalant and cavalier attidude is not what is expected of a skipper, particularly in a time of uncetainty and low team confidence.

    A leader sets the tone and inspires his players to achieve beyond the call of duty. He does so even when the going is tough. This has clearly not been evident in CG.

    I have always thought that Gayle would best suit WI as a regular player batting lower down the order. He does not have the temperant or "smarts" to be an opening batsman, in my view. His impulsive flash-and-dash approach at the crease in kamikaze. As such, he has grossly under-achieved as a batsman.

    I trust, in the remaining part of his tenure as a West Indies player, he makes the necessary adjustment to improve the fortunes of both he and the West Indies.

  • bwalters on June 20, 2010, 22:16 GMT

    Give me a break...

    Is Gayle the best captain that I have ever seen? Not by a long shot. But the one true statement in this piece is that there is no-one else to replace him at present.

    Bravo? He's lucky he's even still in the Test side. Ramdin? Please. C'paul? Born to bat, but not to lead. Nash would be a VERY bold choice, and ill-advised IMO, but I wish his professionalism would wear off on the others.

    Bottom line is that, unless Gayle himself gives it up, he is captain for the immediate future.

  • on June 20, 2010, 22:14 GMT

    hey i'd prefer to have darren ganga in the side for his brains rather than gayle for his wishy washy batting!! then maybe west indies might have a chance of winning some matches for a change!

  • on June 20, 2010, 21:29 GMT

    Making Dwyane Bravo captain, is a decision you will have to wait and take. He has not proved anything other than his athletic abilities, in test and ODI format of the game (take a look at his batting and bowling averages). All you Gayle hatters remember, WICB was as usual in tatters when they gave him the captaincy. Also, Darren Bravo will also go for Mumbai Indians if he is given a choice between WI and MI (IMHO, he is also not a saint in that regard). But I think there is some light at the end of the road with the current crop of youngsters in the likes of Lendl Simmons, Darren Bravo, Adrian Bharat and the return of Samuels. They need consistent specialist batsmen who take Test cricket very serious (I think this is the root cause of all their problems). I think with their addition, batting MIGHT get better. But their bowling is pathetic that this crop cannot match Mervyn dillon's and Franklyn Rose's skills, let alone the greats.

  • on June 20, 2010, 21:20 GMT

    It's time to start grooming Sammy as the future West Indies captain. Dwayne Bravo is lucky to be still in the side and is only there because there's no one to challenge him.

  • on June 20, 2010, 21:04 GMT

    Sorry one an all D.Ganga is not available .As he is now in the employ of the Trinidad & Tobago Government .

  • on June 20, 2010, 18:17 GMT

    To stamp out these inept performances, the set up of windies cricket should have a complete overhaul, scrap contracts for all and sundry and pay everyone according to their performance.

  • BULBIECRICKET on June 22, 2010, 5:48 GMT

    I HAVE ALWAYS RESPECT TONY'S COMMENTS AND IDEAS BUT THIS TIME I WILL HAVE TO DISAGREE. FIRST OF ALL W.I.P.A. AND THE W.I.C.B. WASTED TOO MANY TIME DISAGREEING, THE TIME SHOULD BE SPENT GROOMING THE PLAYERS WE HAVE. RAW TALENT LIKE WHAT WE HAD IN THE 60s, 70s, 80s AND PART OF THE 90s ARE NOT THERE ANYMORE. NEXT, MOST OF THE TEAM ARE UNDERPERFORMERS, THEY SHOULD LOSE THEIR PLACE IF THEY ARE NOT PERFORMING. IS RAMDIN THE ONLY KEEPER WE HAVE IN THE WHOLE CARIBBEAN? WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME HE SCORES A 50 ? IF GANGA IS THE BEST CAPTAIN IN THE CARIBBEAN, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME HE WON A SERIES IN THE DOMESTIC COMPETITION? {TWENTY/TWENTY IS NOT CRICKET} WHY DID CHANDERS, AND SARWI GAVE UP THE CAPTAINCY? I THINK GAYLE SHOULD GIVE UP THE CAPTAINCY AND CONCENTRATE ON HIS BATTING AND HAVE ANY CAPTAIN FROM THE PAST CAPTAIN THIS UNDER-PERFORMING TEAM. IT WOULD NOT MAKE A DAM DIFFERENCE, THEY WOULD LOSE JUST THE SAME. W.I.C.B. PLEASE, PLEASE SELECT THE BEST ELEVEN.

  • on June 20, 2010, 23:17 GMT

    ganga for captain!way better than gayle!

  • Ruthfrancois on June 20, 2010, 22:47 GMT

    With Gayle being one of the most senior players in the team and the West Indies Team being so short of experience;it's very difficult to see an easy change of captain now & with Bravo's recent performances leaving a lot to be desired.Gayle must be seriously spoken to by the West Indies Team Management and the Board re:his attitude towards captaincy and his lack of motivation to the younger players.Gayle can continue as Captain for a bit longer while Sarwan or Bravo understudy him as viceCaptain.

    There is no doubt quite a lot of talent around the West Indies;however,a great deal more will have to be done to harness our future prospects.The team needs inspirational leadership,assurance & confidence in itself to do well at the highest level of the game.Sadly,we don't seem to have too many people who are ready to accept the captaincy mantle presently.The selectors will have to be more astute with team composition;& focus more on a balanced team that will better represent the West Indes.

  • umpire on June 20, 2010, 22:45 GMT

    I agree with Tony that the end of the line of Chris Gayle as captain of the West Indies is (or should) near. His languid, nonchalant and cavalier attidude is not what is expected of a skipper, particularly in a time of uncetainty and low team confidence.

    A leader sets the tone and inspires his players to achieve beyond the call of duty. He does so even when the going is tough. This has clearly not been evident in CG.

    I have always thought that Gayle would best suit WI as a regular player batting lower down the order. He does not have the temperant or "smarts" to be an opening batsman, in my view. His impulsive flash-and-dash approach at the crease in kamikaze. As such, he has grossly under-achieved as a batsman.

    I trust, in the remaining part of his tenure as a West Indies player, he makes the necessary adjustment to improve the fortunes of both he and the West Indies.

  • bwalters on June 20, 2010, 22:16 GMT

    Give me a break...

    Is Gayle the best captain that I have ever seen? Not by a long shot. But the one true statement in this piece is that there is no-one else to replace him at present.

    Bravo? He's lucky he's even still in the Test side. Ramdin? Please. C'paul? Born to bat, but not to lead. Nash would be a VERY bold choice, and ill-advised IMO, but I wish his professionalism would wear off on the others.

    Bottom line is that, unless Gayle himself gives it up, he is captain for the immediate future.

  • on June 20, 2010, 22:14 GMT

    hey i'd prefer to have darren ganga in the side for his brains rather than gayle for his wishy washy batting!! then maybe west indies might have a chance of winning some matches for a change!

  • on June 20, 2010, 21:29 GMT

    Making Dwyane Bravo captain, is a decision you will have to wait and take. He has not proved anything other than his athletic abilities, in test and ODI format of the game (take a look at his batting and bowling averages). All you Gayle hatters remember, WICB was as usual in tatters when they gave him the captaincy. Also, Darren Bravo will also go for Mumbai Indians if he is given a choice between WI and MI (IMHO, he is also not a saint in that regard). But I think there is some light at the end of the road with the current crop of youngsters in the likes of Lendl Simmons, Darren Bravo, Adrian Bharat and the return of Samuels. They need consistent specialist batsmen who take Test cricket very serious (I think this is the root cause of all their problems). I think with their addition, batting MIGHT get better. But their bowling is pathetic that this crop cannot match Mervyn dillon's and Franklyn Rose's skills, let alone the greats.

  • on June 20, 2010, 21:20 GMT

    It's time to start grooming Sammy as the future West Indies captain. Dwayne Bravo is lucky to be still in the side and is only there because there's no one to challenge him.

  • on June 20, 2010, 21:04 GMT

    Sorry one an all D.Ganga is not available .As he is now in the employ of the Trinidad & Tobago Government .

  • on June 20, 2010, 18:17 GMT

    To stamp out these inept performances, the set up of windies cricket should have a complete overhaul, scrap contracts for all and sundry and pay everyone according to their performance.

  • on June 20, 2010, 17:20 GMT

    Hold on a minute. Lets not be too harsh here. An injury free team looks a lot more threatening than this. Look: Gayle Ganga/Richards Sarwan Chanders Nash Bravo Ramdin Taylor Benn Edwards Roach That looks a lot more threatening than the current team and only due to the return of 3 players. At least Gayle is honest though. The pitch was a 'road' and did you expect him to be happy at the thought of losing the toss and having to bowl with what is honestly a hapless bowling attack against the likes of Kallis.

  • on June 20, 2010, 17:13 GMT

    Excellent article!!! These were my exact sentiments after a few of the one day matches...

    Read more about my analysis that is entitled "We need positive vybes". In my article i show that not only gayle should go but also a few of the commentators...Fazeer Mohameed, Jef Dujon...A few members of the board of management should also go...anyone who add negativity to the team...

    Any coach that says "We need to focus on grass root cricket" should also go...unless he means that there should be more local competitions...whatever happened to Carib cup and KFC cup and all those...i personally enjoyed those regional matches...

    I strongly believe that bravo should be captain! i am glad that Tony agrees with me...i feel proud of my self for writing on it! In addition to bravo, play more regional cricket...

    Find it on my facebook..

  • caribeerstand on June 20, 2010, 16:57 GMT

    I tend to agree with Carlos Hunte. Changing Gayle will make note make any difference the team. I stongly feel that the selectors keep making the same mistake over and over again. Selecting players like Dowlin Hinds (last tour) Nash, ets are are backwards steps

  • Peligrosisimo3 on June 20, 2010, 16:50 GMT

    CG cannot lead the team as a captain and as such he must be stripped if he doesn't want to resign at the end of the current series. We saw at the end of the T20 in the WI's last game.After being shut out for about 100, Gayle persisted with bowling Taylor who got hammered when everybody else was saying "apply some pressure, slow bowling". Honestly, when you see those obvious blunders that reasonable people see, all you can say is that Gayle has lost it. I'm not saying remove him from the team. He can stay as a batsman although if he doesn't keep giving his wicket away he'll soon have 2 go. His decisions seem to be at random with no plan. To be honest the team selection plays a part also. Many commentators tell you that selecting the right team is as important as anything else. Hinds was broght back. He performed in the regional 4 days but was thrusted into the t20's and ODI's. Thoughtless!No other captain will blame the pitch, they just go out and get the job done. Count it. 8-0 so far

  • santhoshkudva on June 20, 2010, 16:49 GMT

    there is no dearth of talent in wi. it is only the application that is lacking. gayle has clearly expressed his reluctance to play the longer format of the game. his continuation would only extend the misery of WI cricket. he may be their best batsman today, but he shouldnt be playing if he doesnt want to. bring back ganga as vice captain.

  • on June 20, 2010, 16:42 GMT

    I was thinking after the loss in the first test that maybe it is time for Gayle to step down as captain and focus on his all-round ability, especially his batting. His stuff is electric, both with bat and ball, for all his immobility. But as far as inspiring immature players who are yet to understand that they need to take pride in their own individual, while gelling as a team, he has fallen short. Maybe if he had been leading 30 year old men, like the Australian sides, mature men who took the game seriously, then his 'man-up' tactics might have worked. But for this lot of replacement journey men and youngsters, short of self-confidence, someone experienced has to hold their hand through this. Someone has to inspire them to play cricket, first for the West Indies and then for themselves and Gayle's time has passed. At least, we've lost faith in him. We say we're rebuilding, lets get a young captain in then, like SA did with Graeme. Let's go that route. It certainly can't get any worse!

  • ihaq1 on June 20, 2010, 16:01 GMT

    well gayle has the attitude that he is usually the only batsman in the team with the others usually having an off day...it was the same before with lara or chanderpaul trying out their batting talents..they first need to have three good fast bowlers and they should stop using bits and pieces types of players...they have the talent in fast bwlwing as they come with new ones quite often...however batting seems tobe something else...many think that the west indies should be broken up as might be even the smaller islands have better teams than the test team...that would sponsorship as well as pressure on the players to perform...most islands are better than bangladesh...as for a new captain if batting does not improve than it would be needless...however a concentrated captain who would take an interest in the teams development and selection is necessary...whether gayle wants to quit is not unknown however the selection might be responsible for some problems.as the team has no fast bowlers

  • buddygr8 on June 20, 2010, 15:41 GMT

    Could anyone verify that the best results we have had lately was under David Williams?

  • on June 20, 2010, 15:40 GMT

    Tony Cozier once again you you want to be commentator and selector for the West Indies team , you have always been destructive to West indies cricket . Drop Gayle to pick who Ganga ? Try Again .. Why you not questioning why sammy was left out ?

  • on June 20, 2010, 15:12 GMT

    we all make comments about what is best for the west indies. open your eyes and see the the captain is using what we deal him in terms of players. he cannot win the game by himself, remember this is a team sport, not boxing or tennis... put the blame on the selectors, why is dale richards and sammy not in the test squad??? what difference will ganga do with squad???? who will you drop to play ganga??? do we have a better opening batsman than gayle???? answer those questions..... why dont you drop gayle and see where this team will be in the next year...... all this started when the board mess with haynes and drop him, that was when we started falling and cannot stop.

  • bigwindy on June 20, 2010, 15:11 GMT

    Ganga is not an international class batsman... the problem with the windies is at first class level!!!

  • garf1158 on June 20, 2010, 15:06 GMT

    i do not agree with tony cozier. the fact of the matter is this team does not have the horses. therefore, Dwayne Bravo as captain would not make much if any difference. As a matter of fact, this team does absolutely nothing if Gayle does not perform. I think that whole business of him being cool and nonchalant is way overblown. the fact remains that until we get bowlers who can take 20 wickets in a match consistently and batsmen who can perform when Gayle does not make a big score we are not going to win. I d'ont care if Clive Lloyd is the captain

  • nataraajds on June 20, 2010, 14:53 GMT

    Change of caption for WI is not a solution, if you can see the last test which WI lost miserably, the team management do not have any new / alternate face to make replacement & retain the squad for this test, this is the fate of WI team now , we can't see any match winning bowlers in the present team, so change of caption cannot make any difference..insted the selectors & the great WI legends should look for young & talented boys and groom them in academy like we have in India. so atleast within next few year we can see some good performance in WI team. till then manage the show with available resource, motivate them with an inspired leadership, coach and ofcourse with advice from the great WI legends

  • on June 20, 2010, 14:51 GMT

    If I were not to be an Indian, WI wd hv been my favorite Test team! Tony Cozier has brought out very well the anguish of WI cricket fans. I agree with Silva-Surfa entirely. Enthusiasm wins half the battle. And Chris Gayle himself has proclaimed he has lost it as for as Test cricket is concerned. Either Darren Ganga or Dwayne Bravo may do better than Gayle. Darren Ganga may not as hot as a player but like Mike Brearly may be able to bring the best out of the youngsters. Dwayne Bravo, like Shahid afridi or Dhoni has the petential to lead from the front. Actually WI need someone like Allan Border who lifted the aussies from the dumps.

  • demon_bowler on June 20, 2010, 14:47 GMT

    I have been impressed by Dwayne Bravo ever since I saw him at Headingley in 2007, on the coldest day of test cricket ever in the UK. While the other West Indies batsmen seemed resigned to a quick thrash and a rush back to the warmth of the dressing room, Dwayne took off his jumper, rolled up his shirt sleeves, and scored a classy 50. The score doesn't matter, it was the attitude that was impressive. Contrast that with Gayle who could barely drag himself on the field in the 2009 series (even turning up late for the start of play on one occasion!) One of them showed the attitude of a test match player and a captain, and it wasn't Gayle.

  • on June 20, 2010, 14:46 GMT

    The problem is not with Gayle. It is with the WI team. As before, with Lara, the problem was not with him, but the WI team. Why should Dowling be playing when he is a blatant waste. Why should Rampaul be playing when he is a another waste. But hey, when Tony Cozier says jump, the ill advised board jumps even higher. A possible solution: pick the best team. The selectors know what this means

  • vatshy on June 20, 2010, 14:34 GMT

    Being a West Indian supporter is very difficult. these guys just don't seem to have any will power left. I believe West Indies, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh should not be allowed to compete with other test nations for a year or so. I know it would be so unfair on guys like Edwards, Taylor, Bravo and Chanderpaul but this team needs victories. A bit of break and confidence of beating teams would do a hell lot of good to them. May be they will come back as a stronger nation next year with some real firepower and iron will to contend with. The West Indies A tours should also be arranged more frequently. As the Zimbabwians have improved a lot with break and their former players working with them I am sure West Indies with a rich set of wonderful bowlers and batters would do even better. Who knows they turn into world beaters again!!!

  • on June 20, 2010, 14:25 GMT

    Well said, Hazeltine. Nothing more about Gayle's attitude, record as captain,silly pronouncements in the past and his overall disrepect/non-appreciation of the great WI cricket traditions need to be added. Cozier as usual is spot on with his assessment here.

  • rohanahuja on June 20, 2010, 14:19 GMT

    Gayle runs out of ideas quickly.If u take ponting u see he dosen't run out of ideas.Dhoni has ideas but sometimes runs out of them in the end (depth overs).Gayle should be removed as captain.BRING GANGA BACK IF U WANNA WIN.IM INDIAN AND IM STILL SAYING THAT IF U BRING GANGA THEY HAVE CHANCE OF IMPROVING.

  • on June 20, 2010, 14:18 GMT

    This article is typical of Tony Cozier. He is a front-runner and always look for opportunities to take shots at WI cricket. Sometimes I wonder if he is really "West Indian". When Gayle was first announced as WI captain, he wrote an article questioning Gayle's ability to lead the team. When Gayle had some early success, he priased Chris and commented that his style was what the players related to. Now that the team has hit rock bottom, he is back to his "old" self, questioning Chris' ability to lead the team. The fact is without Gayle, the WI over the last four years would have been MUCH worse. He beat England in the WI last year. Battled Australia (in Austarlia) tooth and nail with a depleted team. Cozier should call for the heads of his "buddies" on the WI board. They are the ones who have killed WI cricket with ineptitude. i.e. the disasterous & hurriedly arranged tour of England after our win at home last year! They give Chris lemons & want him to make champane i.e Dowlin, Fletcher.

  • Peligrosisimo3 on June 20, 2010, 14:05 GMT

    Initially I was ok with Gayle but the time has come for there 2 be a change. I get tired of people pointing out 1 in a couple of innings to justify Gayle staying as captain. It's been about 10-15 years we are blaming administrators when cricketers on the field show NO common sense. After the 5-0 to SA in 99 it was the administrators, in 2010 its still the administrators!. The cricketers need to take responsibility for the disgraceful performances on the field. Gayle doesnt lead. We could have WON at least 2 of the 5 ODI's but for poor captaining decisions:bowling Bravo after he had gone for about 12 in the previous over(final overs). One of the many poor decisions that come to mind. Field placings, bowling changes are uninspiring and the general selection of the team is rediculously poor.The general fielding is dismal to say the least. Why isnt Sammy ever given a fair chance. If anything Sammy was the only star to emerge from the ODI's. We lose test #1, and the exact team plays #2.

  • Peligrosisimo3 on June 20, 2010, 14:04 GMT

    Initially I was ok with Gayle but the time has come for there 2 be a change. I get tired of people pointing out 1 in a couple of innings to justify Gayle staying as captain. It's been about 10-15 years we are blaming administrators when cricketers on the field show NO common sense. After the 5-0 to SA in 99 it was the administrators, in 2010 its still the administrators!. The cricketers need to take responsibility for the disgraceful performances on the field. Gayle doesnt lead. We could have WON at least 2 of the 5 ODI's but for poor captaining decisions:bowling Bravo after he had gone for about 12 in the previous over(final overs). One of the many poor decisions that come to mind. Field placings, bowling changes are uninspiring and the general selection of the team is rediculously poor.The general fielding is dismal to say the least. Why isnt Sammy ever given a fair chance. If anything Sammy was the only star to emerge from the ODI's. We lose test #1, and the exact team plays #2.

  • on June 20, 2010, 13:58 GMT

    west indies wil never win any test match except any India

  • gottalovetheraindance on June 20, 2010, 13:54 GMT

    Gayle is the West Indies team. that is a sad but true situation ! he has been under tremendous pressure so maybe losing the captaincy wood not be such a bad thing !

  • Shilly77 on June 20, 2010, 13:24 GMT

    Bring back Ganga!!! Are you mad? The man is not good enough to get into this team! Why is Ganga not in the A team currently touring England?? Dwayne Bravo is the man to take if Chris says enough is enough. If we had a fit Edwards, Taylor, Roach as well as Sarwan and Barath we would give SA a better game. This series shows the lack of depth within West Indies cricket.

  • on June 20, 2010, 13:21 GMT

    personally,the only person who is qualified to be captain is darren ganga.however,he has to merit a place in the team.having said that,give me another opener beside gayle who can command a place at the top of the order.that's right,there is noone.might as well give ganga a try,he cannot do much worse.the other thing is,u have a guy like darren sammy who always performs and plays his cricket with much more brains than most of those idiots.why are they not playing him in the tests.sammy should be a regular member of our test team.definitely in front of rampaul who is not test quality.

  • Asil on June 20, 2010, 13:18 GMT

    It is unfair to address this issue when so many front line players are injured. There is no doubt Gayle would be a much better captain if he could throw the ball to Taylor, Edwards, Roach, Bravo or a spinner. Three of them were injured for the first test and Roach is just back now. Any team in the world would struiggle without their strike bowlers. Also, missing two of your top five batsmen, Barath & Sarwan, weakens the side immeasurably. The management and fitness coaches have a lot of questions to answer. WI have some great cricketers but they never get to play together. Get your strongest 11 fit and ready, then question the captaincy.

  • no_second_chance_for_batsman on June 20, 2010, 12:57 GMT

    If Gayle did like Tony mentioned, shame on Gayle & he should be taken out as captain and should be warned by WICB. This is a team game & not an individual sport. That kind of attitude will impact the whole team & I agree with Tony 200%.

    I am an Indian, but I feel sorry for WI Cricket & can't understand what WICB is doing...What a disgrace for WI cricket...from HEROES of cricket in 70's to late 80's..to almost bottom of the table.

    Wake up WICB & make some tough decisions. Cheers, Kumar

  • Silva-Surfa on June 20, 2010, 11:38 GMT

    Mixed feelings about Gayle to be honest. I know alot of people don't like his flippant and laidback attitude and quite naturally, a Captain's influence usually effects the mindset of the team. Believe it or not, the team's record under Gayle has shown signs of improvement, mixed in with horrible performances. When he first took over in 2007, beating England in a ODI series, then winning a test match in South Africa for the first time, drawing a test series with Sri Lanka (H) and New Zealand (A), winning a test series against England in the Caribbean and getting to the World T20 semis in England. That's been considerably better than under previous Captains in the last decade. But with that comes the very, very bad as well and i always felt that if the Senior players such as Gayle, Sarwan and Dwayne Bravo can't lead from the front and guide the less experienced players, then wholesale changes from the top with the WICB, the Selectors and Captain requires a fresh, new beginning.

  • on June 20, 2010, 11:33 GMT

    BRING BACK GANGA!!!!!!!!!!

  • factoryard on June 20, 2010, 11:04 GMT

    Great suggestion Mr Cozier. Ease the burden on Gayle, make someone else the captain . I would recommend at this time to make Darren Ganga the T20 captain of the West Indies , we have nothing to loose.

  • on June 20, 2010, 10:47 GMT

    Very good Article Mr Cozier.As a supporter of West Indies cricket I can see a change to Dwayne Bravo being more successful, with his energy. Personally I think Darren Sammy should be in the test squad as well.

  • hazeltine on June 20, 2010, 10:44 GMT

    Gayle should never have been made captain IN THE FIRST PLACE. Many people are seemingly impressed with this ridiculous "cool" persona that he displays. My take on his persona is that he does not give a damn about the captaincy because he can say or do whatever he wants without having to face the consequences as we have a totally insipid WIndies cricket board. I hope he is so worn down with all the defeats we have suffered under him that he wants to leave test cricket and go off to his beloved 20/20 knockabout as I do not want him as a team member either as I think he will be a totally disruptive influence to the team as he was before he became captain.

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  • hazeltine on June 20, 2010, 10:44 GMT

    Gayle should never have been made captain IN THE FIRST PLACE. Many people are seemingly impressed with this ridiculous "cool" persona that he displays. My take on his persona is that he does not give a damn about the captaincy because he can say or do whatever he wants without having to face the consequences as we have a totally insipid WIndies cricket board. I hope he is so worn down with all the defeats we have suffered under him that he wants to leave test cricket and go off to his beloved 20/20 knockabout as I do not want him as a team member either as I think he will be a totally disruptive influence to the team as he was before he became captain.

  • on June 20, 2010, 10:47 GMT

    Very good Article Mr Cozier.As a supporter of West Indies cricket I can see a change to Dwayne Bravo being more successful, with his energy. Personally I think Darren Sammy should be in the test squad as well.

  • factoryard on June 20, 2010, 11:04 GMT

    Great suggestion Mr Cozier. Ease the burden on Gayle, make someone else the captain . I would recommend at this time to make Darren Ganga the T20 captain of the West Indies , we have nothing to loose.

  • on June 20, 2010, 11:33 GMT

    BRING BACK GANGA!!!!!!!!!!

  • Silva-Surfa on June 20, 2010, 11:38 GMT

    Mixed feelings about Gayle to be honest. I know alot of people don't like his flippant and laidback attitude and quite naturally, a Captain's influence usually effects the mindset of the team. Believe it or not, the team's record under Gayle has shown signs of improvement, mixed in with horrible performances. When he first took over in 2007, beating England in a ODI series, then winning a test match in South Africa for the first time, drawing a test series with Sri Lanka (H) and New Zealand (A), winning a test series against England in the Caribbean and getting to the World T20 semis in England. That's been considerably better than under previous Captains in the last decade. But with that comes the very, very bad as well and i always felt that if the Senior players such as Gayle, Sarwan and Dwayne Bravo can't lead from the front and guide the less experienced players, then wholesale changes from the top with the WICB, the Selectors and Captain requires a fresh, new beginning.

  • no_second_chance_for_batsman on June 20, 2010, 12:57 GMT

    If Gayle did like Tony mentioned, shame on Gayle & he should be taken out as captain and should be warned by WICB. This is a team game & not an individual sport. That kind of attitude will impact the whole team & I agree with Tony 200%.

    I am an Indian, but I feel sorry for WI Cricket & can't understand what WICB is doing...What a disgrace for WI cricket...from HEROES of cricket in 70's to late 80's..to almost bottom of the table.

    Wake up WICB & make some tough decisions. Cheers, Kumar

  • Asil on June 20, 2010, 13:18 GMT

    It is unfair to address this issue when so many front line players are injured. There is no doubt Gayle would be a much better captain if he could throw the ball to Taylor, Edwards, Roach, Bravo or a spinner. Three of them were injured for the first test and Roach is just back now. Any team in the world would struiggle without their strike bowlers. Also, missing two of your top five batsmen, Barath & Sarwan, weakens the side immeasurably. The management and fitness coaches have a lot of questions to answer. WI have some great cricketers but they never get to play together. Get your strongest 11 fit and ready, then question the captaincy.

  • on June 20, 2010, 13:21 GMT

    personally,the only person who is qualified to be captain is darren ganga.however,he has to merit a place in the team.having said that,give me another opener beside gayle who can command a place at the top of the order.that's right,there is noone.might as well give ganga a try,he cannot do much worse.the other thing is,u have a guy like darren sammy who always performs and plays his cricket with much more brains than most of those idiots.why are they not playing him in the tests.sammy should be a regular member of our test team.definitely in front of rampaul who is not test quality.

  • Shilly77 on June 20, 2010, 13:24 GMT

    Bring back Ganga!!! Are you mad? The man is not good enough to get into this team! Why is Ganga not in the A team currently touring England?? Dwayne Bravo is the man to take if Chris says enough is enough. If we had a fit Edwards, Taylor, Roach as well as Sarwan and Barath we would give SA a better game. This series shows the lack of depth within West Indies cricket.

  • gottalovetheraindance on June 20, 2010, 13:54 GMT

    Gayle is the West Indies team. that is a sad but true situation ! he has been under tremendous pressure so maybe losing the captaincy wood not be such a bad thing !