West Indies news September 4, 2009

Play or be dropped - WI selector

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Clyde Butts, the West Indies' chairman of selectors, has warned striking players to make themselves available for the region's domestic one-day tournament next month or face exclusion from the ensuing tour of Australia. Butts was hopeful, though not certain, that the industrial dispute between the board and the players will be resolved before the touring squad to Australia is announced, but raised the possibility that another weakened side, such as that humbled by Bangladesh in July, could be named if the unofficial deadline is not observed.

"The board is hoping to resolve this as quickly as possible," Butts told Cricinfo. "The board has asked the players to make themselves available for a domestic tournament from October 10, and if they do that, then I am confident we will have a strong squad for Australia. There has been a statement released about this.

"If that doesn't happen, then it depends on how the board views things. I believe there is a rule that players have to play in the domestic tournament preceding a tour to be considered. I am hopeful most, if not all, the players will make themselves available for that tournament and we can proceed as normal.

"Certainly, it would be very difficult for a young team to go to a place like Australia and not have the senior players to rub shoulders with and learn from. I am hoping the impasse will have been resolved by then, but I just don't know for sure. I am optimistic, however."

Butts, a former Test offspinner, admitted that neither the players nor the board could afford a long-term continuation of their industrial dispute, from both a financial and general interest perspective. Since the likes of Chris Gayle, Shivnarine Chanderpaul and Ramnaresh Sarwan withdrew their candidacy for selection, West Indies have suffered embarrassing Test and one-day series defeats to Bangladesh and named a severely weakened side for this month's Champions Trophy in South Africa.

"This will probably go on for a little while yet (but) I don't think West Indies cricket can afford to go down this road much longer," Butts said. "There isn't a person in this region who doesn't want to see their best players represent them, and the hope is that the impasse will soon be over so cricket can again be the winner.

"It is difficult as chairman of selectors when you are unable to pick your best team. There is a concern about (players retiring to play Twenty20 cricket), but from the players I have spoken to that is not on the cards. Most want to play cricket for the West Indies and are looking forward to doing so again at some point in the future."

Butts added that Darren Powell's withdrawal from West Indies' Champions' Trophy squad was due to injury, and not pressure exerted by WIPA, the players' union. Powell, the most experienced member of West Indies' original 15-man squad, has been replaced by uncapped fast bowler Kevin McLean.

"As far as I know it was injury related," he said. "He hurt himself playing a game in Jamaica and that's why he has had to pull out."

Alex Brown is deputy editor of Cricinfo

Comments have now been closed for this article

  • POSTED BY Woody111 on | September 8, 2009, 3:37 GMT

    This whole saga is so sad for WI cricket and its followers. Sir Viv, Michael Holding, Courtney Walsh - where are you guys? Your cricket needs you now! After the work Frank Worrell put into to uniting WI cricket this current state of affairs is offensive to his legacy. Greed and selfishness has permeated cricket (not just in WI) to such an extent the ethos of the game is being lost. One problem with fielding a second-string side is that it is not a true contest between nations. One problem with not sending a side at all is the absence of cricket from three grounds. I don't think I could bring myself to go to Adelaide Oval this summer in Aus if WI cricket is too embroiled in politics to send Gayle, Chanderpaul and Co. out here. For the love of cricket be men about this and put cricket first!

  • POSTED BY Copernicus on | September 7, 2009, 13:13 GMT

    Why must they continue to put cricket in the region in peril with their inane ultimatums and pathetic demands? Is it that their heads are so far up their own behinds they can't see what they are ripping at the very fabric of the game? That by continuing with this stupid, stupid, STUPID strategy of fielding a C-grade team they will soon ruin themselves as interest in (and revenue from) the sport dwindles away to nothing? The ICC, spineless as it is, must surely realise it's in its own best interests to step in!

  • POSTED BY AceB on | September 6, 2009, 6:09 GMT

    Now gentlemen lets have a game ..Lets play cricket!!!! To all the knockers of the Fifth string team and the captain Floyd Reifer,lets be clear about a few things, he wasn't selected to score hundreds or even scores of runs, his average is a testament to the fact..But he can mould future players, some thing which the so-called stars, did not have in their early career. It's possible things may go back to the ways of old and we may again have a captain who wishes test cricket would go away...or there will be new kids on the block, who I can assure the Knockers do have talent. To the persistent commenter..Sept 04 2009 17:05 GMT...IF YOU THINK THAT CARIBBEAN PEOPLES WILL EVER ENTERTAIN YOUR DREAM OF ISLAND TEAMS PLAYING TEST CRICKET DREAM ON.

  • POSTED BY HumanSyndrome on | September 5, 2009, 22:23 GMT

    To: WICB Please be advised that you are doing not only West Indies Cricket a disservice, you are also doing yourselves irreparable harm. I am very disappointed to see grown men behave in such an inconsiderate manner. I may not be party to all the facts and the contents of the SEALED envelope, however, it very obvious that unreasonable dictates are being made. The WIPA is not helping either. This UNION is trying to enrich players, sometimes unfairly, at the expense of West Indies Cricket. We now have CARICOM envolved and this is the TRUE legal body that should and must make decisions. It is a disgrace to see "BOYS" going out to do battle with the MONSTERS of cricket - Australia, India, Pakistan, et al. More importantly it is unfair to the West Indies as whole. In this terrible world wide depression, our only aspiration and little piece of enjoyment is being sacrifice for your glory and edification. CARICOM please step in and correct this gross travesty.

  • POSTED BY gottalovetheraindance on | September 5, 2009, 18:41 GMT

    Since when is playing 1st class season cricket a criterion for being selected for a tour? Are the contests between the national teams in the West Indies of such a high quality & of such intensity that it can considered adequate preparation for an Australian tour? Is this the new panacea for the performance woes of our cricketers 'especially when on tour'. When was the last time this rule was applied to ALL our cricketers before a series whether on tour or at home?

    WICB, WIPA THE ENTIRE CRICKETING WORLD IS LAUGHING AT YOUR LUNACY. BUT WHAT MAKES IT MORE INFURIATING IS THE FACT THAT OUR REPUTATION AS A PEOPLE AND AS A REGION IS ALSO BEING TORN TO SHREDS BY YOUR OVERSIZED EGOS!!!!

  • POSTED BY gottalovetheraindance on | September 5, 2009, 18:21 GMT

    It is a bit late to save the Champions Trophy now. Cricket South Africa should have canceled WI invitation as soon as WICB decided to send a 2nd string team after the senior players made themselves available. After all they are the onces who will be complaining about the unsold tickets & poor performances associated with the matches involving this West indies team.this however is water already passed under the bridge. My advice to Cricket Australia is to cancel the series if the best players are not selected to contest the 09 Frank Worrel Trophy in Australia. Maybe a few first class teams would want to play a 2nd string team although i strongly doubt it.

  • POSTED BY hazeltine on | September 5, 2009, 18:18 GMT

    The article by Clyde Butts really is a waste of time. The WICB can no longer scream out that they have no money. I have never believed them on this issue and I never will, rather, it is the way it is being spent that has caused the problem. The simple truth is that they will have to eventually give central contracts to the players and it is from there that the possibility of WIndies cricket development can be looked at. If the WICB continue to play their brand of ridiculous politics, this issue will go on indefinitley.

  • POSTED BY Lennon_Marx on | September 5, 2009, 14:50 GMT

    In the end, this like most things comes down to (mainly) money, and the simple fact of the matter is that (outside of a short time when the Stanford millions ruled the roost) the game in the West Indies hasn't had the monetary clout ofl any of the other major nations; so much so that I think they are still the most heavily financed test team from ICC coffers, and of course none of this was helped by the disastrous World Cup which further sunk West Indian cricket financially through bad planning, angering the public and debacles like the new International ground in Antigua. There's no doubt that the players have been worse off than their international counterparts for many years, and the IPL has gone some way to rectifying that, but the need for the board to make some money drove them to the tour of England which started this years iteration of this dance (going now many years). Saddest is that over the last 18 months indicated finally things were beginning to improve on the field.

  • POSTED BY BrianCharlesVivek on | September 5, 2009, 9:59 GMT

    The spineless ICC is also to be blamed here. They want only share of the pie that comes from India and IPL. What care they are taking of the other boards, which are struggling?? If they are really interested in cricket, why cant they pump in some money and bail out the WICB?? after all money plays a major part of the contract dispute that exists between the players and the board.If this continues we ll see Gayle, Bravo etc only in the IPL and not for West Indies.

  • POSTED BY ayubshaikh on | September 5, 2009, 9:56 GMT

    i don't understand why icc is not interfering in wicb,, the icc should not allow this weak side to participate in champions trophy,, i thing bangladesh would give tough fight to other teams in champions trophy,so according to me the bangladesh should be alow to play in champions trophy

  • POSTED BY Woody111 on | September 8, 2009, 3:37 GMT

    This whole saga is so sad for WI cricket and its followers. Sir Viv, Michael Holding, Courtney Walsh - where are you guys? Your cricket needs you now! After the work Frank Worrell put into to uniting WI cricket this current state of affairs is offensive to his legacy. Greed and selfishness has permeated cricket (not just in WI) to such an extent the ethos of the game is being lost. One problem with fielding a second-string side is that it is not a true contest between nations. One problem with not sending a side at all is the absence of cricket from three grounds. I don't think I could bring myself to go to Adelaide Oval this summer in Aus if WI cricket is too embroiled in politics to send Gayle, Chanderpaul and Co. out here. For the love of cricket be men about this and put cricket first!

  • POSTED BY Copernicus on | September 7, 2009, 13:13 GMT

    Why must they continue to put cricket in the region in peril with their inane ultimatums and pathetic demands? Is it that their heads are so far up their own behinds they can't see what they are ripping at the very fabric of the game? That by continuing with this stupid, stupid, STUPID strategy of fielding a C-grade team they will soon ruin themselves as interest in (and revenue from) the sport dwindles away to nothing? The ICC, spineless as it is, must surely realise it's in its own best interests to step in!

  • POSTED BY AceB on | September 6, 2009, 6:09 GMT

    Now gentlemen lets have a game ..Lets play cricket!!!! To all the knockers of the Fifth string team and the captain Floyd Reifer,lets be clear about a few things, he wasn't selected to score hundreds or even scores of runs, his average is a testament to the fact..But he can mould future players, some thing which the so-called stars, did not have in their early career. It's possible things may go back to the ways of old and we may again have a captain who wishes test cricket would go away...or there will be new kids on the block, who I can assure the Knockers do have talent. To the persistent commenter..Sept 04 2009 17:05 GMT...IF YOU THINK THAT CARIBBEAN PEOPLES WILL EVER ENTERTAIN YOUR DREAM OF ISLAND TEAMS PLAYING TEST CRICKET DREAM ON.

  • POSTED BY HumanSyndrome on | September 5, 2009, 22:23 GMT

    To: WICB Please be advised that you are doing not only West Indies Cricket a disservice, you are also doing yourselves irreparable harm. I am very disappointed to see grown men behave in such an inconsiderate manner. I may not be party to all the facts and the contents of the SEALED envelope, however, it very obvious that unreasonable dictates are being made. The WIPA is not helping either. This UNION is trying to enrich players, sometimes unfairly, at the expense of West Indies Cricket. We now have CARICOM envolved and this is the TRUE legal body that should and must make decisions. It is a disgrace to see "BOYS" going out to do battle with the MONSTERS of cricket - Australia, India, Pakistan, et al. More importantly it is unfair to the West Indies as whole. In this terrible world wide depression, our only aspiration and little piece of enjoyment is being sacrifice for your glory and edification. CARICOM please step in and correct this gross travesty.

  • POSTED BY gottalovetheraindance on | September 5, 2009, 18:41 GMT

    Since when is playing 1st class season cricket a criterion for being selected for a tour? Are the contests between the national teams in the West Indies of such a high quality & of such intensity that it can considered adequate preparation for an Australian tour? Is this the new panacea for the performance woes of our cricketers 'especially when on tour'. When was the last time this rule was applied to ALL our cricketers before a series whether on tour or at home?

    WICB, WIPA THE ENTIRE CRICKETING WORLD IS LAUGHING AT YOUR LUNACY. BUT WHAT MAKES IT MORE INFURIATING IS THE FACT THAT OUR REPUTATION AS A PEOPLE AND AS A REGION IS ALSO BEING TORN TO SHREDS BY YOUR OVERSIZED EGOS!!!!

  • POSTED BY gottalovetheraindance on | September 5, 2009, 18:21 GMT

    It is a bit late to save the Champions Trophy now. Cricket South Africa should have canceled WI invitation as soon as WICB decided to send a 2nd string team after the senior players made themselves available. After all they are the onces who will be complaining about the unsold tickets & poor performances associated with the matches involving this West indies team.this however is water already passed under the bridge. My advice to Cricket Australia is to cancel the series if the best players are not selected to contest the 09 Frank Worrel Trophy in Australia. Maybe a few first class teams would want to play a 2nd string team although i strongly doubt it.

  • POSTED BY hazeltine on | September 5, 2009, 18:18 GMT

    The article by Clyde Butts really is a waste of time. The WICB can no longer scream out that they have no money. I have never believed them on this issue and I never will, rather, it is the way it is being spent that has caused the problem. The simple truth is that they will have to eventually give central contracts to the players and it is from there that the possibility of WIndies cricket development can be looked at. If the WICB continue to play their brand of ridiculous politics, this issue will go on indefinitley.

  • POSTED BY Lennon_Marx on | September 5, 2009, 14:50 GMT

    In the end, this like most things comes down to (mainly) money, and the simple fact of the matter is that (outside of a short time when the Stanford millions ruled the roost) the game in the West Indies hasn't had the monetary clout ofl any of the other major nations; so much so that I think they are still the most heavily financed test team from ICC coffers, and of course none of this was helped by the disastrous World Cup which further sunk West Indian cricket financially through bad planning, angering the public and debacles like the new International ground in Antigua. There's no doubt that the players have been worse off than their international counterparts for many years, and the IPL has gone some way to rectifying that, but the need for the board to make some money drove them to the tour of England which started this years iteration of this dance (going now many years). Saddest is that over the last 18 months indicated finally things were beginning to improve on the field.

  • POSTED BY BrianCharlesVivek on | September 5, 2009, 9:59 GMT

    The spineless ICC is also to be blamed here. They want only share of the pie that comes from India and IPL. What care they are taking of the other boards, which are struggling?? If they are really interested in cricket, why cant they pump in some money and bail out the WICB?? after all money plays a major part of the contract dispute that exists between the players and the board.If this continues we ll see Gayle, Bravo etc only in the IPL and not for West Indies.

  • POSTED BY ayubshaikh on | September 5, 2009, 9:56 GMT

    i don't understand why icc is not interfering in wicb,, the icc should not allow this weak side to participate in champions trophy,, i thing bangladesh would give tough fight to other teams in champions trophy,so according to me the bangladesh should be alow to play in champions trophy

  • POSTED BY chandau on | September 5, 2009, 7:01 GMT

    The !st and only point is : THE BOARD EXISTS BECAUSE OF THE PLAYERS. NO PLAYERS NO BOARD !!!! WI shud be banned from international cricket until they can put a decent 11 on the park. What they are sending to the Champions Trophy is not even a club 11 and Australia Pakistan and India will reap the benefits of that. Why is ICC allowing this farce to take place. They were very keen to ban Zim and B'desh teams from internationals but are pussy footing on this case. Rules must be applied to all so let the WI solve their problems in courts or the street. Just suspend them from international tournaments without helping to make SOME bowler's and batsmen's statistics swell by playing against NEVERBEENS. STOP THIS LUNACY SOON b4 it ruins the public interest in cricket. !!!

  • POSTED BY cskp on | September 5, 2009, 4:20 GMT

    I used to love the WI team. They i believe added the "FUN" concept to cricket,The dared to be different, where at one point we watched cricket being played at venues where people wore jackets and sipped tea watching a match. WI helped change it. As a Sri Lankan i loved it! Its sad where WI cricket now is! all the greats are gone and the new ones have lost there way in the mids money!What happened to the pride of playing for the country? The love of the game? I know the Board's sell the players and make the money. players sell the skills and make the money. Dont get me wrong...The Money is importaint.. but pls. grow up and settle this! whatever the problem WI cricket, you are all grown ups and you all have fans! dont let us down! Pls.

  • POSTED BY netgrouchy on | September 5, 2009, 2:41 GMT

    Shaaakspsyco cant be serious: "I think the West Indies' players don't deserve any dues because they have taken their jobs for granted and underperformed for a decade and a half." The WICB has mucked around the players for well over 15 years!!! Fifteen years later they are still struggling to dig themselves out of the oppression of the WICB and as West Indians we claim to be EMANCIPATED. No intervention by the ICC is required. The WICB&WIPA should be able to resolve this with haste. It is the players who bring class, flair, excitement and fun into the game and ... our lives - not the WICB. Why slaughter those hens who lay golden eggs?? What is the WICB without the players?? Clyde Butts will have an easy job as Chief Selector without the star players but why an ultimatum? What are they offering the younger players???? Same of the same??? Fifteen years later it will be the same story if the WICB is not revamped and given an ultimatum. Give us good cricket with good cricketers!

  • POSTED BY crickpro on | September 5, 2009, 2:18 GMT

    To be honest, I am feddupp of the West Indies cricket board. I am thinking and i am sure alot of you out there would agree with me that we need a new WICB team. the current selectors, President and everyone on that board should be taken off and a new persons should be added as the "new WICB"

    The upcoming Champions Trophy WI team does not make any sence. Alot of those players are not familiar with international cricket. Theres a difference between county cricket and international cricket. Theres a big difference. Shiv, Gayle, Ronnie, Ramdin and the other big players should be selected in the team for the upcoming series.

    If the big players in the WI team does not get pick for the tour of australia, it does not make sence airing that tour around the world.

  • POSTED BY Mollox on | September 4, 2009, 17:48 GMT

    I often wonder whether the situation with WIPA is one of "the tail wagging the dog". To what extent are the Windies players being represented by Ramnarine or is it the other way around? Are they playing to his tune? One has to think so sometimes because it seems strange that people whoi say they are interested in WI cricket can continue to carry on the way they have been, shown scant regard or respect for the people they represent - the people of the West Indies.

    Having said this, one also wonders whether the apparent intransience of the WICB is driven by rule of law or of EGO. Has the stand being taken by teh Board been one of principle or just whant to show who's in charge?

    These are the questions that WI supports have been asking! Can someone answer?

  • POSTED BY tomjs100 on | September 4, 2009, 17:21 GMT

    If they don't put out a decent side, I'd relegate the WI to playing only ODI's like Zimbabwe. This is a problem that has rumbled on for years and it isn't good enough to devalue test cricket because of rubbish like this - be it from the players or the board.

  • POSTED BY AARON.IFTEKHAR on | September 4, 2009, 17:05 GMT

    Issue warning to the leading players on strike is not a wise and good practice to resolve the dispute between the board and players. It's very pity, though I'm not a fan of West Indies Cricket Team. According to my opinion as there is no country or political union of countries exists now by name "West Indies", so logically the "West Indies Cricket Team", a combined team of some sovereign Caribbean islands and of 6 independent territorial cricket associations of the various countries and territories of Caribbean basin, have no judicial right to participate in any international tournament as one combined national team. Need to scrap them, and their test status right convey to Jamaica and/or Trinidad & Tobago cricket teams, as major Caribbean team.

  • POSTED BY jacquesuse on | September 4, 2009, 16:25 GMT

    Well Mr. Butts gets my vote for not knowing how to hold a position, even a wrong one. Talk about not being able to decide what to do. "If that doesn't happen, then it depends on how the board views things. I believe there is a rule that players have to play in the domestic tournament preceding a tour to be considered."

    The Board should make a decision, communicate it now and stick to it. And perhaps Butts should find out if there is a rule or not!!! What a shame from a previously great cricketing region.

  • POSTED BY Daveharley on | September 4, 2009, 15:34 GMT

    A really sad thing for West Indies cricket...Money makes people funny...

  • POSTED BY dcgx on | September 4, 2009, 15:27 GMT

    Why is the Chairman of selectors saying this now. The players made themselves available for the ODI's against Bangladesh, and they weren't selected. They did not make themselves unavailable for the Champions Trophy, and were not selected. As far as I know they have still made themselves available and not withdrawn their services for the upcoming tournament. So why do all these board affiliated people feel the need to say such things when we fans know that it is not based on anything tangible, but who the WICB ultimately wants to send. It seems every comment made by the board members so far only shows clearly they are a law unto themselves, using their rules conveniently as they go along.

  • POSTED BY robinmaha on | September 4, 2009, 14:30 GMT

    They have played but have been dropped for the Bangladesh games. Could we trust that playing this time would ensure inclusion when we know well that the criterion is whether they side with the Players' Union or the WICB? Butts is a good servant of the weak WICB and dances well to its tune. He and others must continue to threaten, for that is how they seem to want to bring about constructive change. In the meantime the Players' Union leadership continues with its apparent inflexibility. Both sides are driving their nails into the coffin of WI cricket. CARICOM should disband both and set up an interim, emergency management for regional cricket inthe Caribbean. Could President Jagdeo take another bold initiative to get his peers to take such a decision?

  • POSTED BY HumanSyndrome on | September 4, 2009, 12:12 GMT

    To: WEST INDIES CRICKET SUPPORTERS Re: TIME FOR CHANGE

    I have previously advised that the EGO is running West Indies cricket i.e. Egomaniacs on all sides. This article clearly depicts that Clyde Butts and his gang calling themselves the representatives of West Indies Cricket Supporters are playing games with CRICKET and the lives of cricketers and fans. Sports have changed and crickets have now moved to the forefront with 20/20 cricket. We must respect that and change the way we conduct business. It is NOT business as usual. The board needs to be changed to deal with the players directly. The UNION called WIPA should be disbanded and a more open and transparent relationship with the players be installed. Fans out there should write their Government and ask for direct representation to combat the Egomaniacs. We are heading to the point where a new body that truly represents the meaning of cricket to this region must be formed to emancipate us from this tyranny.

  • POSTED BY gracegift on | September 4, 2009, 12:07 GMT

    If the criteria for the players is "Perform or Perish", the same should extend to the WICB too. If they are unable to get the best players to play, they must be asked to resign. I believe the ICC must get involved now, else a dangerous precedent will be set. Petty politics must simply not be tolerated. The WICB, WIPA, ICC and the sponsors of the WICB need to get together and sort this out in a hurry. The value of a tournament/series gets undermined, it's an embarrassment to the West Indies people, sponsors lose out. Cricket needs a good West Indian team. For the love of the game, those of you in high places, think in terms of the best interests of the game.

    Hubert J D'Mello India.

  • POSTED BY shaaakspsyco on | September 4, 2009, 11:10 GMT

    I think the West Indies' players don't deserve any dues because they have taken their jobs for granted and underperformed for a decade and a half.

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  • POSTED BY shaaakspsyco on | September 4, 2009, 11:10 GMT

    I think the West Indies' players don't deserve any dues because they have taken their jobs for granted and underperformed for a decade and a half.

  • POSTED BY gracegift on | September 4, 2009, 12:07 GMT

    If the criteria for the players is "Perform or Perish", the same should extend to the WICB too. If they are unable to get the best players to play, they must be asked to resign. I believe the ICC must get involved now, else a dangerous precedent will be set. Petty politics must simply not be tolerated. The WICB, WIPA, ICC and the sponsors of the WICB need to get together and sort this out in a hurry. The value of a tournament/series gets undermined, it's an embarrassment to the West Indies people, sponsors lose out. Cricket needs a good West Indian team. For the love of the game, those of you in high places, think in terms of the best interests of the game.

    Hubert J D'Mello India.

  • POSTED BY HumanSyndrome on | September 4, 2009, 12:12 GMT

    To: WEST INDIES CRICKET SUPPORTERS Re: TIME FOR CHANGE

    I have previously advised that the EGO is running West Indies cricket i.e. Egomaniacs on all sides. This article clearly depicts that Clyde Butts and his gang calling themselves the representatives of West Indies Cricket Supporters are playing games with CRICKET and the lives of cricketers and fans. Sports have changed and crickets have now moved to the forefront with 20/20 cricket. We must respect that and change the way we conduct business. It is NOT business as usual. The board needs to be changed to deal with the players directly. The UNION called WIPA should be disbanded and a more open and transparent relationship with the players be installed. Fans out there should write their Government and ask for direct representation to combat the Egomaniacs. We are heading to the point where a new body that truly represents the meaning of cricket to this region must be formed to emancipate us from this tyranny.

  • POSTED BY robinmaha on | September 4, 2009, 14:30 GMT

    They have played but have been dropped for the Bangladesh games. Could we trust that playing this time would ensure inclusion when we know well that the criterion is whether they side with the Players' Union or the WICB? Butts is a good servant of the weak WICB and dances well to its tune. He and others must continue to threaten, for that is how they seem to want to bring about constructive change. In the meantime the Players' Union leadership continues with its apparent inflexibility. Both sides are driving their nails into the coffin of WI cricket. CARICOM should disband both and set up an interim, emergency management for regional cricket inthe Caribbean. Could President Jagdeo take another bold initiative to get his peers to take such a decision?

  • POSTED BY dcgx on | September 4, 2009, 15:27 GMT

    Why is the Chairman of selectors saying this now. The players made themselves available for the ODI's against Bangladesh, and they weren't selected. They did not make themselves unavailable for the Champions Trophy, and were not selected. As far as I know they have still made themselves available and not withdrawn their services for the upcoming tournament. So why do all these board affiliated people feel the need to say such things when we fans know that it is not based on anything tangible, but who the WICB ultimately wants to send. It seems every comment made by the board members so far only shows clearly they are a law unto themselves, using their rules conveniently as they go along.

  • POSTED BY Daveharley on | September 4, 2009, 15:34 GMT

    A really sad thing for West Indies cricket...Money makes people funny...

  • POSTED BY jacquesuse on | September 4, 2009, 16:25 GMT

    Well Mr. Butts gets my vote for not knowing how to hold a position, even a wrong one. Talk about not being able to decide what to do. "If that doesn't happen, then it depends on how the board views things. I believe there is a rule that players have to play in the domestic tournament preceding a tour to be considered."

    The Board should make a decision, communicate it now and stick to it. And perhaps Butts should find out if there is a rule or not!!! What a shame from a previously great cricketing region.

  • POSTED BY AARON.IFTEKHAR on | September 4, 2009, 17:05 GMT

    Issue warning to the leading players on strike is not a wise and good practice to resolve the dispute between the board and players. It's very pity, though I'm not a fan of West Indies Cricket Team. According to my opinion as there is no country or political union of countries exists now by name "West Indies", so logically the "West Indies Cricket Team", a combined team of some sovereign Caribbean islands and of 6 independent territorial cricket associations of the various countries and territories of Caribbean basin, have no judicial right to participate in any international tournament as one combined national team. Need to scrap them, and their test status right convey to Jamaica and/or Trinidad & Tobago cricket teams, as major Caribbean team.

  • POSTED BY tomjs100 on | September 4, 2009, 17:21 GMT

    If they don't put out a decent side, I'd relegate the WI to playing only ODI's like Zimbabwe. This is a problem that has rumbled on for years and it isn't good enough to devalue test cricket because of rubbish like this - be it from the players or the board.

  • POSTED BY Mollox on | September 4, 2009, 17:48 GMT

    I often wonder whether the situation with WIPA is one of "the tail wagging the dog". To what extent are the Windies players being represented by Ramnarine or is it the other way around? Are they playing to his tune? One has to think so sometimes because it seems strange that people whoi say they are interested in WI cricket can continue to carry on the way they have been, shown scant regard or respect for the people they represent - the people of the West Indies.

    Having said this, one also wonders whether the apparent intransience of the WICB is driven by rule of law or of EGO. Has the stand being taken by teh Board been one of principle or just whant to show who's in charge?

    These are the questions that WI supports have been asking! Can someone answer?