India in Australia 2011-12 January 29, 2012

Batsmen's failures highlight India's gloom

Marks out of ten for India following their 0-4 loss to Australia
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There were few bright spots for India in a series during which they were outplayed in every Test, and it is worrying that the captain was their worst performer. ESPNcricinfo runs the rule over the 13 players India used during the series.

6.5
Virat Kohli
The whole world was against him. The fans abused him, the match-referee fined him, the opposition sledged him, the press hounded him and the moral police convicted him. Despite all that, Kohli kept improving his game, was the only centurion for India and scored more runs than any of his illustrious team-mates. The only India player who would have merited a place in this Australia side. No more needs to be said.

5
Sachin Tendulkar
Tendulkar began the series, and almost every innings in it, gloriously, looked good for a century twice, but didn't cross 80. His dismissal in the first innings in Melbourne was one of the turning points in the game, and in Sydney his departure marked the end of India's fight. Converting starts into long innings was Tendulkar's problem in the series. It would be too simplistic to say, however, that the 100 centuries landmark consumed him.

Zaheer Khan
Perhaps Zaheer's biggest achievement of the series was that he actually stayed fit through the whole of it, something he has not done in an away Test series since India toured Bangladesh in January 2010. His spells late on the first day in both Melbourne and Sydney kept India alive, but he did not have a single five-wicket haul through the series, something expected of a spearhead. His inability to produce a match-winning performance was accentuated because the rest of the attack was not as accurate, smart or consistent.

Umesh Yadav
The only India bowler to take a five-wicket haul in the series, Yadav showed he had pace, and can swing the ball late, attack the stumps and run through the tail. Consistency, though, was an issue and he will need time to develop more control.

4
Ishant Sharma
Ishant bowled better than his series strike-rate of one wicket every 150 balls suggests, but was still a disappointment considering these were the conditions in which he announced himself in 2007-08. His failure is also a failure of the coaching staff, who have failed to develop Ishant from a raw find into an accomplished bowler.

Wriddhiman Saha
MS Dhoni's one-match ban for his side's slow over-rates meant Saha got an opportunity in Adelaide and he kept impressively. He showed determination with the bat too: he helped Kohli reach his hundred in the first innings. In the second innings, though, Saha did not go out to bat at No. 7 at the end of the fourth day, and the nightwatchman Ishant was involved in a mix-up that led to Kohli's run-out before stumps.

3
R Ashwin
Ashwin gets an extra half-mark just for facing the media every time no-one else felt like it. He batted better than he bowled; his batting average was the third highest of all India's players. With the ball, he kept bowling the odd loose ball that took the pressure off the batsmen. He is one of the few India players who can use the conditions in Australia as a legitimate excuse - his counterpart Nathan Lyon took fewer wickets than he did. Ashwin, however, has no excuse for being as slow as VVS Laxman in the field.

2
Rahul Dravid
Getting bowled six times in eight innings does not befit a man nicknamed The Wall. Dravid, to his credit, kept working hard in the nets to try to get his back foot across, but kept finding it stuck outside leg during the Tests. He fought for two decent scores but never reached a point in any innings when he looked in form.

Virender Sehwag
Sehwag could not handle the seaming ball and extra bounce made it doubly dangerous. He began with a streaky 60 in Melbourne but his series went downhill from there, ending with two dismissals to full tosses on a flat Adelaide track.

Gautam Gambhir
Gambhir could not help poking at balls outside off at the start of the series, and was found out by the accurate bouncer towards the end. He fought in the second innings at the SCG but fell to a soft leading edge on 83.

R Vinay Kumar
Vinay Kumar was a man caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. Four overs into his debut, his figures read 4-0-31-0. His inclusion meant India were playing four medium-pacers for the first time in 20 years, and the slow over-rate cost MS Dhoni a Test. Vinay Kumar will not forget Perth and David Warner in a hurry.

1
VVS Laxman
Laxman was the biggest disappointment of the series because he has paid his bills through innings played in dire circumstances and has an excellent record against Australia. This time, though, he could not do anything to break the bowlers' rhythm.

0.5 MS Dhoni
Stubborn. Both as captain and batsman. Dhoni captained by a text book that should be found and burnt. With the bat he kept pushing tamely outside off when he should have known his technique is not adequate for that kind of play.

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • drsamprasad on February 1, 2012, 13:23 GMT

    @ ved_mishra

    You are right. Every one has the right to put forth their views, like i did. I COMMENTED not RATED on this article. COMMENTING is different from RATING! Instead of saying " He was wrong" its always better to say " He could have tried another way". Words hurt more than swords, am sure you agree to that. Anyways my point, is that the author is not QUALIFIED to RATE the players but within his rights to COMMENT. Like one needs to at least have an undergraduate qualification to grade kindergartens too..

  • Radiohead80 on February 1, 2012, 0:54 GMT

    Sidharth Monga dude :d serioulsy??? I quite like most of ur articles but I see some Ishant love off late..lol jus few days ago when everyone was laughing at Ishant's 'unlucky bowler' claim, u wrote an article supporting him....and now u r giving him a 4 but Ashwin a 3 instead??? Ishant shud honestly get a 1 and should have been dropped long ago!!!

  • on January 31, 2012, 16:11 GMT

    1. Overseas conditioning is important. 2. Young players need test attitude. 3. Indian pitches need to evolve. 4. Coaching should be opponent specific. 5. Don't blame the captain when all the seniors in the team didn't have the effort to handle him.

  • pcraju on January 31, 2012, 5:06 GMT

    I have some basic doubts about how Indian team prepares to play international matches. Australia just doesnt practice on the nets. They also analyse how opposition plays. They've a plan for each good batsman in the opposition. Among Indian batsmen, definitely, they have plans on how to get Sehwag, Tendulkar and Dravid out quickly. They see them playing in the video and analyse to make a plan on what kind of ball to bowl them to get out. Does India do that for any international cricketers? They may be trying to ball good balls, but are they specifically planning what kind of ball to bowl for a specific batsman to get him out? Samething goes with batting as well. Do they watch how aussies bowl and analysed how to play them? I saw most of the big Indian heroes were touching the ball which should be left alone and were getting out, which means they don't know which ball to leave alone and which ball to play. No enough analysis done for batting as well. They just play how they want to.

  • SamRoy on January 31, 2012, 4:16 GMT

    @ssenthil You probably didn't see his innings' at Perth. He played better than Dravid and Laxman ever played at Perth. That second innings 75 (when the pitch had huge cracks) where he deserved a 100 was easily the best innings by an Indian batsmen in the series. A million times better than his 100 or Gambhir's 83 on flat pitches.

  • TRAM on January 31, 2012, 2:22 GMT

    Author criticizes Ashwin's fielding and doesn't merit his batting. In what way Zaheer or Ishant fields or bats better than Ashwin ??? How is Zaheer way up?? And Saha got only one chance he did excellent. Either the author doesn't know how to evaluate or it is deliberate bias.

  • Wispa on January 31, 2012, 1:55 GMT

    Well i totally agree with the marks given to India, except I would give Shewag 1.5 or 1 for a blatant disregard to knowing how to bat!! He may of got away with not moving his feet in the past and made a tonne of runs,,but to continuosly think he could on this tour is a joke....my 15 year old has better technique!! Laxman,,,I love you but you let me down,,,you should have attacked more rather than poke and prod,,,i had a dream and in it you could not even hit the ball more than 10 metres,,,very weak,,,and dissappointing. But I agree Dhoni is no captan, Sheqag is definately no leader to look to for re-assurance in a crisis,,,and Tendulkar/Dravid are have beens!!! India you need to purge and start again!!!!

  • ved_mishra on January 30, 2012, 21:57 GMT

    Mr. @drsamprasad, you don't need to be the GOD or master of cricket to comment or put forward your views. All great cricketer's are not great coaches, commentators or writers. This is author's personal opinion. If your point of view is right, then even you should not be commenting here (by the way I was not able to see your score stats on cricinfo :p).

    In my opinion, the points' result should be 6 - Virat Kohli; 5 - Sachin, Saha, Zaheer; 3 - Ashwin; Umesh 2.5 - Dravid; 2 - Ishant; Gambhir 1.5 - Sehwag; 1 - Laxman; 0 - Dhoni, Vinay Kumar. (Are negative points allowed for Vinay Kumar..lol)

  • on January 30, 2012, 21:00 GMT

    Also, it's not all batsman's fault. Failure to go through the Aussie batting line up for more than 3 out of 8 innings is a terrible bowling & captaincy failure. Both New Zealand as well as SA skittled through this Aussie attack very easily right before the India series.

  • on January 30, 2012, 20:49 GMT

    How is anybody in the Indian team rated above 5 ???

  • drsamprasad on February 1, 2012, 13:23 GMT

    @ ved_mishra

    You are right. Every one has the right to put forth their views, like i did. I COMMENTED not RATED on this article. COMMENTING is different from RATING! Instead of saying " He was wrong" its always better to say " He could have tried another way". Words hurt more than swords, am sure you agree to that. Anyways my point, is that the author is not QUALIFIED to RATE the players but within his rights to COMMENT. Like one needs to at least have an undergraduate qualification to grade kindergartens too..

  • Radiohead80 on February 1, 2012, 0:54 GMT

    Sidharth Monga dude :d serioulsy??? I quite like most of ur articles but I see some Ishant love off late..lol jus few days ago when everyone was laughing at Ishant's 'unlucky bowler' claim, u wrote an article supporting him....and now u r giving him a 4 but Ashwin a 3 instead??? Ishant shud honestly get a 1 and should have been dropped long ago!!!

  • on January 31, 2012, 16:11 GMT

    1. Overseas conditioning is important. 2. Young players need test attitude. 3. Indian pitches need to evolve. 4. Coaching should be opponent specific. 5. Don't blame the captain when all the seniors in the team didn't have the effort to handle him.

  • pcraju on January 31, 2012, 5:06 GMT

    I have some basic doubts about how Indian team prepares to play international matches. Australia just doesnt practice on the nets. They also analyse how opposition plays. They've a plan for each good batsman in the opposition. Among Indian batsmen, definitely, they have plans on how to get Sehwag, Tendulkar and Dravid out quickly. They see them playing in the video and analyse to make a plan on what kind of ball to bowl them to get out. Does India do that for any international cricketers? They may be trying to ball good balls, but are they specifically planning what kind of ball to bowl for a specific batsman to get him out? Samething goes with batting as well. Do they watch how aussies bowl and analysed how to play them? I saw most of the big Indian heroes were touching the ball which should be left alone and were getting out, which means they don't know which ball to leave alone and which ball to play. No enough analysis done for batting as well. They just play how they want to.

  • SamRoy on January 31, 2012, 4:16 GMT

    @ssenthil You probably didn't see his innings' at Perth. He played better than Dravid and Laxman ever played at Perth. That second innings 75 (when the pitch had huge cracks) where he deserved a 100 was easily the best innings by an Indian batsmen in the series. A million times better than his 100 or Gambhir's 83 on flat pitches.

  • TRAM on January 31, 2012, 2:22 GMT

    Author criticizes Ashwin's fielding and doesn't merit his batting. In what way Zaheer or Ishant fields or bats better than Ashwin ??? How is Zaheer way up?? And Saha got only one chance he did excellent. Either the author doesn't know how to evaluate or it is deliberate bias.

  • Wispa on January 31, 2012, 1:55 GMT

    Well i totally agree with the marks given to India, except I would give Shewag 1.5 or 1 for a blatant disregard to knowing how to bat!! He may of got away with not moving his feet in the past and made a tonne of runs,,but to continuosly think he could on this tour is a joke....my 15 year old has better technique!! Laxman,,,I love you but you let me down,,,you should have attacked more rather than poke and prod,,,i had a dream and in it you could not even hit the ball more than 10 metres,,,very weak,,,and dissappointing. But I agree Dhoni is no captan, Sheqag is definately no leader to look to for re-assurance in a crisis,,,and Tendulkar/Dravid are have beens!!! India you need to purge and start again!!!!

  • ved_mishra on January 30, 2012, 21:57 GMT

    Mr. @drsamprasad, you don't need to be the GOD or master of cricket to comment or put forward your views. All great cricketer's are not great coaches, commentators or writers. This is author's personal opinion. If your point of view is right, then even you should not be commenting here (by the way I was not able to see your score stats on cricinfo :p).

    In my opinion, the points' result should be 6 - Virat Kohli; 5 - Sachin, Saha, Zaheer; 3 - Ashwin; Umesh 2.5 - Dravid; 2 - Ishant; Gambhir 1.5 - Sehwag; 1 - Laxman; 0 - Dhoni, Vinay Kumar. (Are negative points allowed for Vinay Kumar..lol)

  • on January 30, 2012, 21:00 GMT

    Also, it's not all batsman's fault. Failure to go through the Aussie batting line up for more than 3 out of 8 innings is a terrible bowling & captaincy failure. Both New Zealand as well as SA skittled through this Aussie attack very easily right before the India series.

  • on January 30, 2012, 20:49 GMT

    How is anybody in the Indian team rated above 5 ???

  • myStraightTalk on January 30, 2012, 18:00 GMT

    6.5 for Virat Kohli is non-sense. It should be 5 and less. He came down the order when all the australia fast bowler were very tired after bowling good initial overs and spinner were used mostly during that period. A simple batting technique will get more runs in that position (example Ashwin took more runs because of the same reason).He did not play well when it needed most and he created un-necssary distration and scene in the media for his behaviour. Sidharth Monga do the calucation well next time.

  • on January 30, 2012, 16:28 GMT

    Ashwin could have fared better had he practiced with the Australian Ball prior to going to Australia. I think his carrom ball didn't land well due to the bigger size of the Kookubara ball that was in use.

  • asif3k on January 30, 2012, 15:17 GMT

    how they can give 0.5 to dhoni?????? he should be given 1.5..........................

  • OzWally on January 30, 2012, 14:00 GMT

    If Pattinson took twice the wickets of Ishant, played half the Tests and received a score of 6.5 - exactly how does Ishant score a 4? Must be the hair!

  • chris54 on January 30, 2012, 13:57 GMT

    Ridiculous that Marsh gets the same score as Laxman. Laxman was up against top class bowling.

  • OzWally on January 30, 2012, 13:53 GMT

    What a disaster. He entered "Ten"dulkar and left as a "Five"dulkar, half the man he used to be.

  • MMF29 on January 30, 2012, 12:22 GMT

    For goodness sakes please make some allowances for Dhoni. He has the most demanding and stressful workload of any cricketer on earth and probably in the history of the game. He must be quite mentally and physically exhausted after the past gruelling three years and particularly this last action packed year playing so much cricket plus all the associated travel. Being captain/wicketkeeper/batsman for his country in all three forms of the game plus his T20 IPL team since 2008 is a huge responsibility and he cas carried this load with overall great dexterity, excellent man management skills and unfailing calm good humour in the face of the enormous expectations of his countrymen. The man is not a robot after all, but he may be feeling like one presently. Going forward there needs to be a much better balance between the three formats, plus vastly improved scheduling of tours so that players aren't facing unrealistic and exhausting burdens inevitably ending in burnout for some.

  • Raj_759 on January 30, 2012, 12:10 GMT

    u all are stupid people. I dont think most of u understand cricket:- how can u give dhoni 0.5? what can he do when batsman fail to score 200, agreed he hasnt got a very good technique, but sehwag, gambhir laxman dravid have done no better they are bigger culprits bcoz its not the job of keeper batsman to score big hundreds its the job of the top 5 in any batting lineup. Ideally 1 opener and 2 middle-order should score hundredsin an innings in good batting conditions specially this batting order. Even 2 hundreds every innings by the top order is ideal for team to get to a decent total, which sadly was not provided by these "great" batsman. only if a team gets a big total first up can they put pressure on opposition and captain can

  • jam-11 on January 30, 2012, 11:59 GMT

    my points kohli 5.5,yadav 5.5,saha5,Ashwin4,sachin3,zaheer,dravid 2.5, sehwag,vinay2,gambir,vvs 1 ,ishanth 0.5 and Dhoni -10.

    Always sachin we r rating high 36 average is not great,we can't compare with other Indian batsmen average. compare with Aussies.

  • on January 30, 2012, 10:50 GMT

    I don't agree with the marks Clark and Ponting got, The marks have to be discounted by 50%. You should understand they are playing India, not even Zimbabwe :)

  • on January 30, 2012, 10:23 GMT

    Wow!!! Clarkey scores the highest mark in his team and Dhoni scores the lowest mark in his team. Good to see that both the teams are led by the captains. But Clarkey from the top and Dhoni from the bottom!!!! LOL :D

  • on January 30, 2012, 9:35 GMT

    Ishant . . We need 20 wickets rather fast bowling, so what is the use of having him in the side? Sehwag not ready to shed his "natural" game, dznt matter if this costs pride for India. BCCI not answerable to any one, selectors pin pointing to their regional quota. Gambhir, dravid, laxman now please go away, we are fed up seeing you all

  • drsamprasad on January 30, 2012, 9:23 GMT

    Who is the author?? Is he an all time great with tons of runs and loads of wickets?? or is he GOD himself?? What gives him the power to rate these players? I believe that if there was anything that could have been done to prevent these defeats our players would have done it. The author is in the wrong profession, if he wants to rate, he can find a job as teacher!

  • KiwiRocker- on January 30, 2012, 9:22 GMT

    Good and honest article. I have played this sweet moment of Indian defeat thousand times in my mind. India has not lost 8-0 ( even more if you include ODIs) but they have been humiliated. Biggest farce is ICC rankings where India is ranked as second after losing eight test matches. Another joke is Sehwag- A Mere flat track bully who has scored nothing when it matters outside India. However, the real fact is that these defeats have finally exposed that how foolish Indian fans are who are worshipping a so called impostor and God of cricket Tendulya for years. Tendulya is no Ricky Ponting and has failed to deliver. Cricket is a team game and one man should not be blamed for India's defeats however if one has to be blamed then it is Tendulya. First James Anderson made a mockey of his Technique and now an Australian Third Eleven has exposed Tendulya and co. An Australian team without their best player Watson, Johnson, Cameron etc deserves a huge credit. Can Indian selector drop Tendulya?No!

  • KiwiRocker- on January 30, 2012, 9:20 GMT

    Good and honest article. I have played this sweet moment of Indian defeat thousand times in my mind. India has not lost 8-0 ( even more if you include ODIs) but they have been humiliated. Biggest farce is ICC rankings where India is ranked as second after losing eight test matches. Another joke is Sehwag- A Mere flat track bully who has scored nothing when it matters outside India. However, the real fact is that these defeats have finally exposed that how foolish Indian fans are who are worshipping a so called impostor and God of cricket Tendulya for years. Tendulya is no Ricky Ponting and has failed to deliver. Cricket is a team game and one man should not be blamed for India's defeats however if one has to be blamed then it is Tendulya. First James Anderson made a mockey of his Technique and now an Australian Third Eleven has exposed Tendulya and co. An Australian team without their best player Watson, Johnson, Cameron etc deserves a huge credit. Can Indian selector drop Tendulya?No!

  • greenboy81 on January 30, 2012, 9:15 GMT

    Saha deserves more than 4 - close to a 6 in view. He kept very well and had a decent innings with the bat. Playing only one test was not his fault. Gambhir was definitely better than Sehwag, who deserves a 2 at max. And so was Ashwin compared to Ishant, who is much more experienced and had friendlier conditions. But none of these guys deserve a 4

  • Swamin on January 30, 2012, 8:43 GMT

    Dont know how Ishant Sharma was better than Ashwin. The person to be blamed is the bowling coach. He failed to motivate the young talents like Umesh & Ishant. They were not much aggressive. Its time to change the bowling coach atleast.

  • on January 30, 2012, 8:39 GMT

    hahaah..... happy with dhoni s mark.... lol..............

  • zenboomerang on January 30, 2012, 8:09 GMT

    At least Indian fans can comment on the points - the Oz points comments are blocked... If Kholi gets a 6.5 for batting well in 2 out of 4 Tests then Zaheer Khan deserves a 7.5 - he had to lead the bowling attack with wayward bowlers in U Yadav & I Sharma at the other, whom rarely kept their lines tight & didn't put pressure on the Oz batters & therefore often it was just a 1 man attack... Just look at the last Ashes - no line & length from Johnson, Siddle & Hilfenhaus... The rest is history...

  • on January 30, 2012, 7:29 GMT

    ishant sharma forme is not even 1.5 worth... given d conditions nd his height it should hav been an awesum series 4 ishant bt he ruined his own as well as india's chances... were d hell are praveen kumar nd rp singh... dese low profile bowlers hav always performed nd yet forgotten by both selectors as well as by fans.... i assume atleast v vll get 2 see irfan pathan in d odi's

  • on January 30, 2012, 7:09 GMT

    I Cant accept Dhoni's marks or points.. Its not correct !! Shaun Marsh gets 1 and MSD gets 0.5..??? how come Vinay Kumar gets 2..thats need to be questioned first

  • on January 30, 2012, 7:02 GMT

    dude seriously this team is useless the team should sehwag,tendulkar,pujara,rohitsharma,kohli,raina,wriddhiman,ashwin,yuvr,umesh ,varunaaron,

  • Ozcricketwriter on January 30, 2012, 6:50 GMT

    Ashwin and Zaheer were a lot better than that and for me the two best players for India. Kohli was not as good as suggested either. And I think that the figures are more than a little unfair on Dhoni - you marked him worse than Shaun Marsh for Australia, who got a 1 in spite of averaging under 3 for a 4 test series! I did my own marks out of 10 and it was very different to this.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on January 30, 2012, 6:42 GMT

    It is time to get rid of Dhoni from test team than any other seniors. Shaha doing well with the glove and better batsman than dhoni in tests. Gambhir should be the captain not Viru. Viru will be a flop like Lanka's Dilshan.

  • satish619chandar on January 30, 2012, 5:58 GMT

    7 for Kohli for giving the best performance by the batsman.. 5.5 to Ashwin for performing decently with bat and not bad with ball for a first timer and of course, facing the media when none was ready to do it.. 4 for Sachin n Zak for not looking shabby but never put a performance that could inspire the team and complete the job.. 3.5 to Saha for proving he can put better fight than the Captain himself and keep better too and to Umesh for bowling fast though without control most times.. 3 to Sharma just for beating bat many times.. Rest all gets .0 just for appearing in the match..

  • 0zero on January 30, 2012, 5:47 GMT

    Its understandable that you and all of us (i.e Indian cricket fans) are frustrated, but looking at both teams ratings, its visible that there is no rule or consistency you are following while rating players instead its based widely on your personal thoughts and opinion. If you have given 0.5 rating to Dhoni in your opinion piece, it would have been justifiable, but you choose to rate Dhoni 0.5 and haddin as 4 and even Marsh as 1, clearly indicates you are not following anything related to cricket - batting, bowling, fielding,keeping. This is merely a piece to vent out your anger. Sad!!!

  • heathrf1974 on January 30, 2012, 5:46 GMT

    I thought Ashwin did better for a rookie in trying circumstances.

  • on January 30, 2012, 5:39 GMT

    Its rare that a Number 7 batsman can change the fate of the test match, and that too consistently, if by this yardstick, Haddin should have been the most valuable Aus player in the team. We are going back to old days when we said Aus, SA had batsman till No 8 and our guys must bat deep without understanding that their top 5 did the job. Ishant sharma must play Ranji matches and so must Gambhir. The Selectors must look at Rajashthan and Tamil Nadu and bring in a few players, else they must scrap Ranji Trophy, for if the finalists are not given a chance then we must scrap the tounament, for starters Robin Bisht, Ashok Maneria, Abhinav Mukund, Vijay, Balaji and Rituraj must be given an oppurtunity. Simply blaming the captain does not help, a captain with destroyed destroyer, a plastered master, broken wall and used to be special batsman cannot make his team test champion.

  • atthipatti on January 30, 2012, 5:39 GMT

    Dravid gets what he deserves!! How in the hell did Dhoni & Vinay manage to get 0.5 & 2 resply????

  • on January 30, 2012, 5:37 GMT

    Bring in Irfan Pathan, Rohit Sharma and Pujara, Give them more chances and instil the confidence in them. Thats how we are going to build a team for the next 10 years. Laxman definitely had been in very very poor form in England and Australia. So there is not point in trying again and again with him and he is getting older as well. Something has to be done, rather than just wait for the players to come back to form. The best test team for the next 10 years could well be:

    1)Rahene/Sehwag 2)Gambhir 3)Virat Kohli 4)Sachin/Rohit Sharma 5)Yuvraj/Pujara/Raina 6)Dhoni/Saha 7)Irfan pathan 8)Harbhajan/Ashwin 9)Ojha/Nehra/Ishant 10)Zaheer 11)Yadav/Aaron

    The most regular players i could see for the next 10 years are: Gambhir Rohit Virat Kohli Ashwin Saha Dhoni Yadav Aaron I Pathan

    These players need to be groomed and a team has to be built around these players if India have to regain the number 1 name.

  • on January 30, 2012, 5:30 GMT

    I think people are being a bit unfair on dhoni, He did get a half century batting at No 7. For the record , there is not even one single World No 1 test team in the world that has been on the top with at least 2 of its top 6 not firing. While Dhoni showed poor captaincy , there is very little a captain can do when your bowlers give a hit me ball every over. The Aussies were scoring at 5 per over , and any captain would go defensive. The problem with India is that they need new legs and energy in the field. I think Sachin, Dravid and Laxman are playing for themselves and so is Sehwag, who is the worst player in the line up.

  • on January 30, 2012, 5:21 GMT

    Saha played as a better test keeper and batsman than Dhoni. I think dhoni should focus on 20/20 and 50/50.

  • on January 30, 2012, 5:17 GMT

    I do not under stand why Ishant is so over rated ...a fast bowler with average above 90 in fast bowling friendly conditions is rated above a spinner with better batting and bowling average ishant just took 5 wickets in 4 tests only sehwag has higher stike rate in bowling in the series among both teams its not unlucky its inconsistency Rating of dhoni laxman dravid are a bit harsh

  • CricketFanInLosAngles on January 30, 2012, 5:16 GMT

    Dhoni definitely deserves to the .5 for not making the right decision when he won the toss. He chose to go bat first on a lively pitch. Especially given the way the batting had fared in the prior test.

    Even during the test he choice of field placing and when to attack was wrong. Also, needs to know to not let the players do what they please. A captain should know when the bowler is not doing good or when the field placing is wrong and then as a captain should the initiative to correct it. He was lacking in the department as a captain. Terribly.

  • CricketFanInLosAngles on January 30, 2012, 5:12 GMT

    Ishant deserves 2. For not using his brains, the line the length and the crease width. He has not learnt how to bowl smartly. He has not yet learnt what line and length and what angle and how to the use the crease.

  • Suhas_G on January 30, 2012, 4:59 GMT

    Y target only Dravid and Laxman !! Y not Tendulkar !! Is He so gr8?? If so, cant he perform once atleast to save the innings., always behind his 100th 100., Whats the use of 99 centuires when u cant score 1 century in 16 Innings in England and Australia !!!

  • God_Save_Cricket on January 30, 2012, 4:51 GMT

    I think the scorer was a little more than generous to award such high scores to any one but Kohli. No one looked like they are playing an international game against one of the strongest opposition, once upon a time. It was worser than playing a Ranji trophy test match. Even local, un-marooned boys could have put up a brave fight. I think Laxman deserves a score of nothing more than may be 0.2 and Dhoni, I personally feel should be given negative scroing, something like -10 or so. May be some credit does need to go to Zaheer, but we are living in times where it has to be a team effort to win a game and not a one man show, be it with the bat or ball. BCCI, better prepare tracks to match the conditions in every other part of the world, so we are always prepared. Guys should be banned from appearing in Ads and their pays to be based on performance. Probably, we might see mire fighting then :)- God Save Cricket India!!!!

  • Mmakhija on January 30, 2012, 4:49 GMT

    Poor marking. Some of them, at least, Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag, Gambhir and Dhoni should have got negative marking. Tendular, Kohli and Khan have been given lenient marking, not more than 3 or 4 for sure. I must say Sehwag should have retired from Test Cricket and Laxman from all formats of Cricket by now.

  • Babloo3544 on January 30, 2012, 4:48 GMT

    laxman, dravid should get 0. sachin -10 for holding onto his position shamelessly so that he can score the 100th ton

  • on January 30, 2012, 4:45 GMT

    Ishant Sharma should be negative. are you kidding......

  • on January 30, 2012, 4:35 GMT

    On what basis has sachin been rated 5 beats me. I think he was as bad as any other in the team.

  • AtticusFinch on January 30, 2012, 4:30 GMT

    Scores for Dhoni, Vinay Kumar and Sehwag are presposterous. Dhoni deserves 0 because thats what he is for quite some time now. Vinay Kumar deserves 0 because he doesnt belong in the Test arena, Ranji Trophy is and should be his ultimate. Sehwag deserves a -2 for his ridiculous shot in the final test and his performance right through the series. Actually both Gambhir and Sehwag's scores should be -2 for regularly getting out in the first 10 overs and exposing the middle order to the new ball time and again.

  • VVSLaxman on January 30, 2012, 4:23 GMT

    Good rating. However, I have a feeling that there was something behind this performance that we will never get to know about. Even though the conditions were hostile the Aussie attack was not unplayable. The team never looked motivated or eager on the field. This is an issue that needs to be addressed in detail. If these players do not feel motivated to represent their country, they have no business to be playing for the country. Especially for the big three, they had absolutely no excuse to fail here after what happened in England. As someone rightly said, all players who scored below 5 should be dropped and as Sid Monga rightly said "Admitting that we have hit rock bottom" is the best way to start the journey upwards

  • on January 30, 2012, 4:21 GMT

    Laxman and Vinay Kumar's position should be interchanged...and why on earth did Ishant get a 4??Kohli should be brought down to 5.5 and every other's scores should be adjusted accordingly..it is high time Kohli's century should be put in perspective, it only seems so good due to the failures of others around him

  • on January 30, 2012, 4:04 GMT

    Dhoni should be dropped from test team, where this ishant got this mark?He should have dropped in the last test. Time for new openers, Mukund, Rahane followed by kohli,sachin,badrinath,rohit,saha,ashwin,irfan,zaheer,Ojha. Praveen Kumar, Pujara, Rahul Sharma. This should be tried in home matches.

  • on January 30, 2012, 3:20 GMT

    Each time u see this list its as if India never turned up for this series... The ratings are justifiable especially for Dhoni... I guess the 0.5 was just for showing up... I know u never want your legends die India.. but u always need to know when you have stop heating your grub to stop it from overcooking... get in Rahane, Pujara and Rohit Sharma in...

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 3:20 GMT

    Duncan Fletcher may be is not bad, but still it doesn't hurt to change the coach, may be he is just unlucky for Indian cricket, also time to change the bowling coach, under Eric Simmons we see no improvement in our bowling unit, why can't India take Wasim Akram or Glen Mcgrath as bowling coach.

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 3:19 GMT

    Ishant is not unlucky, he should learn from Stuart Broad or Siddle, both of them were so ineffective last year when they used to bowl short, now they are bowling full and they got rich dividents, Ishant sharma with his pace, height, swing, if he bowls full he will definitely get bag full of wickets, he has discard the notion that bowling short is his natural length, that is rubbish. if he keeps bowling short he would not continue to not get wickets, and he would have to consolde himself saying he is unlucky

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 2:57 GMT

    Pujara should be drafted in the Test team immidiately. Pujara, Rohit Sharma, Ajinkye Rahane and Kohli - these young players should be persisted with in Test cricket, they are future of indian cricket.

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 2:57 GMT

    Kohli has to tell himself he can be one of the best in the world in Test cricket, he should take Test cricket more seriously an show the world the same.

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 2:57 GMT

    Dhoni is playing as wicket keeper/batsman/captain in IPL, CL, T20, ODI, Test, it is hurting India that its captain is mentally and physically exhausted, either he has to quit wicket keeping/captaincy in IPL and CL, or he has to quit captaincy in Test cricket.

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 2:56 GMT

    make Gambhir captain, responsibility might bring the best in him and he might start scoring tons after tons, like Clarke.

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 2:56 GMT

    no need for any of the veterans to retire, rather senior players should be rotated, so that more young players get to play against weaker opponents, and against stronger opponent indian team should be picked on merit be it senior or young players.

  • zico123 on January 30, 2012, 2:56 GMT

    BCCI's priorities are wrong, Ranji trouphy 4 day match tournament should be India's no. 1 domestic tournament, not IPL. over importance to IPL is doing big damage to Indian cricket.

  • SouthPaw on January 30, 2012, 2:44 GMT

    Marks for ESPNcricinfo staff: 0.5, for bracketing Sachin (you guys are star struck)& Zaheer with Umesh Yadav.

  • Benchman17 on January 30, 2012, 1:44 GMT

    VVS and Dhoni were terrible, but how can Shaun Marsh score the same as VVS and more than Dhoni? Marsh was without a doubt the worst player in this series - he should have scored zero. If the second worst batting performance of a top 6 player in history doesn't deserve a zero, then nothing does.

  • cric1234_fan56 on January 30, 2012, 1:07 GMT

    Ishant sharma has got 5 wickets in 4 matches...Ashwin has got 9 wickets in 3 matches. Ishant sharman has scored 49 runs in 4 matches...Ashwin has scored 163 runs in 3 matches...Ishant sharma gets 4 points and Ashwin gets 3 points!!!...crazy....couldnt find any logic...Ashwin has done decently in this series and also need to consider that he played only 3 matches. He has also scored good number of runs batting down the order with tailenders. In my opinion he should have been given given 5 or more.

  • on January 30, 2012, 1:01 GMT

    Make Bhajji skipper, Ishant go back to Ranji. MSD only for oneday/t20.

  • Meety on January 30, 2012, 0:44 GMT

    I don't ever recall a sub zero score before! That's sort of an achievement Mr Dhoni! The only other thing is, I'd have had Zaheer on 5.5, ahead of SRT, as he often looked likely, he did beat the bat a fair bit & his average ended up near his career ave. == == == Spewing - couldn't comment on the Oz ratings, but they were about right. I wonder what a batsmen/captain (Clarke), has to do, to get a 9+? A 300+ & a 200+ doesn't get a 10? Not complaining, just curious to know what else he needed to do grab a 10 - he did pick up the wicket of SRT at a crucial stage & held every catch that went his way & his captaincy was light years ahead of Dhoni. Can't wait to see a 10/10 - as long it is not against Oz! LOL!

  • passionate_cricket_follower on January 30, 2012, 0:41 GMT

    dont worry friends. these players would get their points up by playing IPL!!!

  • on January 30, 2012, 0:08 GMT

    Dhoni doesnt deserve even that half a point. His score should be either 0 or negative.! Time for a new test captain!

  • Tusker17 on January 30, 2012, 0:04 GMT

    Shewag should be a MINUS two !!

  • anaken on January 29, 2012, 23:22 GMT

    Time to say goodbye to Dravid, Sachin and Laxman. Also Dhoni should quit playing test match cricket. Gambhir should go back to domestic cricket, he is awefully out of form. What should I say of Indian bowling? No comments.

  • Rooboy on January 29, 2012, 23:14 GMT

    Did Sharma get points for sledging? Because I can't see how he gets four for his bowling. Although, his on field chat was as ineffective as his efforts with the ball ... expected big things from him but he was a massive failure, two points at most.

  • SRT_GENIUS on January 29, 2012, 23:11 GMT

    All those thinking Ashwin's marks are lower than expected have to remember that many Australian's don't play spin well, even on Aussie wickets : Saqlain/Vettori/Panesar/Swann avg under 40 in Australia. Any *Ranji* spinner would have matched Ashwin's performance. But if he is keeping Ojha and Bhajji - two international class spinners - out of the team, he has to do better than that. If he is as intelligent has as he looks, he has to outsmart the batsmen on any pitch and bounce is a spinner's friend not foe. Personally I think Bhajji would have shown more fight but would returned with a similar number wickets. But Ojha would have done much better than Ashwin, who has more subtle variations like Ajmal. I have to say that India needs to discount batting performances of Ashwin and go for Ojha in tests. (Ashwin is still a better choice in ODIs, though his fielding and running needs to improve).

  • explorer76 on January 29, 2012, 23:03 GMT

    I am amazed at those who are complaining about Marsh getting "more" points than Dhoni (1 for Marsh, 0.5 for Dhoni). So lets say Dhoni got 1.5, then should he be really proud? Either would it would be equally pathetic. Keep in mind that there is a difference between a batsman failing vs a captain failing. Marsh was just a batting failure. Dhoni on the other hand was not only a batting failure but also a captain who showed no fighting spirit or leadership ability when the team was fielding. He let the games go on and on waiting for things to happen. And thats why he got 0.5 because his failure was much more damaging to his team than a batsman's failure. And even worse was his lack of willingness to admit that something needs fixing in the team. In comparison look at how England has been so frank about admitting that their batting has struggled against spin and they have to work on fixing that issue.

  • posybeon123 on January 29, 2012, 23:00 GMT

    why are there no negatives?? positive or zero is a bit too much

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 29, 2012, 22:38 GMT

    BCCI should use this rating and drop every one scoring less than five - starting with Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag and Gambhir.

  • Roger_Allott on January 29, 2012, 22:37 GMT

    Ishant Sharma doesn't warrant a 4 - maybe a 3 if we're being generous. The scores for Laxman and Dhopi seem a bit harsh.

  • stuartk319 on January 29, 2012, 22:21 GMT

    As an Aussie, Kohli deserves 8 in my book. Tendulkar/Khan/Yadav about right though Khan was really poor with the bat. Saha deserves 6.5 for me, showed technique and fight with bat to help Kohli when he got his chance & kept OK. Ashwin deserves 5, no worse than Lyon, who was still OK and deserves 5.5, and Lyon had a 20 times better captain and field placings. Less said and lower the ratings for the remainder of the party the better.

  • SJinUS on January 29, 2012, 22:08 GMT

    When the marks are so low, it really do not matter some minor questionable #s. The bowlers cannot be blamed for the debacle AT ALL. I think they did well in whatever situations they were provided with. They were always put on the back foot first by the disastrous runs put up by the batting line up and then by a ridiculously conservative fielding setup. The best example for the team India captain for ways to keep up the pressure was their opposition captain Clarke. Still he could not learn it. I would have given a ZERO for him for the way he captained and his inability to bat in minimum test standards. He might be a good captain in the shorter format in subcontinental conditions (WC2011 and IPL). But he is NOT suitable in the longer formats to be even qualifying as India's #1 wicket keeper batsman. Following these failures he should step down from Test captaincy so we can drop him from test teams. Learn half decent batting techniques and then apply for the position.

  • bingohaley on January 29, 2012, 21:52 GMT

    Just something to ponder: The population of Oz is a bit more than the total metropolitan area population of Mumbai........

  • vj3478 on January 29, 2012, 21:46 GMT

    The writer should have also given some points for the self belief this team had after such humiliating lose. Guess they all would have around 9-9.5. The 3 biggies had the best opportunity to retire when they and the team India were on top but instead they opted to go down low - team confidence wise, rank wise, form wise and above all fans love/respect!

  • MiddleStump on January 29, 2012, 21:05 GMT

    The ratings are reasonable. Nobody saw or heard from the coach. May be the writer wasn't sure whether India had a coach on this trip, so Fletcher was not rated. Dhoni got 0.5 but he does not want to play test cricket anymore. What is the point in rating somebody who does not wish to participate? Sehwag and Gambhir also have reasons to complain. The former wants to bat in the middle order so his performance as an opener may not be relevant. Similarly, Gambhir wants to play on turning tracks which is clear from the way any short ball shocks him. He only opened the batting because he expectied Nathan Lyon to open the bowling. Vinay Kumar never asked to be selected for the tour. He was a 7th string bowler who had to be taken to fill an empty plane seat because of injuries to Aaron and Praveen Kumar. He was a swing bowler who could not move the ball. He should thank Warner for moving his deliveries all the way to the boundary.

  • Erebus26 on January 29, 2012, 20:59 GMT

    Ashwin should've been given 1 as he was appalling. His bowling was ineffectual, in fact he's one of the worst Indian spinners I've seen. He's mentally weak too and got took apart by Ponting and Clarke.

  • SRT_GENIUS on January 29, 2012, 20:37 GMT

    @Vkarthik: This is not a time for regional favoritism. Maybe in terms of absolute performance Ashwin and Ishant were same. But in terms of actual effort, Ishant was way ahead - Ishant gave 110%, Ashwin gave 85%. Also, its not like Ishant is blocking a hot pace bowler (Vinay Kumar was the 4th choice). Ashwin is blocking Ojha and Bhajji (whose career maybe over from a fan's perspective but he still wants to comeback) - so Ashwin needs to deliver atleast 100% in terms of effort. Please note: Effort from a spin bowler involves "out thinking" -that's why we hoped from a better performance from a intelligent looking Ashwin compared to a seemingly simpleton Bhajji.

  • on January 29, 2012, 20:25 GMT

    Really? Ashwin below Wriddhiman Saha and Ishant?

    Looks like the new ball wickets at Adelaide were either attributed to luck or taken for granted.

  • SRT_GENIUS on January 29, 2012, 20:23 GMT

    Good analysis but unfair to Yadav - he doesn't have the same experience as other bolwers in bouncy conditions and you are bound to get your lengths wrong. He was the only bowler who looked like he could get wickets. Ashwin should get extra half point for batting as well. Dhoni marks should be negative as he held back others.

  • rahulcricket007 on January 29, 2012, 20:17 GMT

    WELL , WELL AFTER SEEING ISHANT''S DISASTROUS PERFORMANCES IN ENG TOUR , WI HOME SERIES , AUS TOUR . PEOPLE ARE STILL SAYING HIM UNLUCKY . LOL A MAN CANNOT BE UNLUCKY FOR 11 MATCHES . IN THESE 11 MATCHES HE ONLY TAKES 21 WKTS WITH AN AVERAGE OF 68 .

  • Buggsy on January 29, 2012, 20:12 GMT

    I think most of these marks are pretty fair, although have to agree with others, Marsh should have been a zero. Took one awesome catch which hardly contributed to the outcome. Ashwin was a probably a little ripped off though, he was bowling pretty well to extremely poor field settings and his batting wasn't that bad, certainly better than most of the top order. Tendulkar deserves a few more points off for not once fronting up to the media. Spineless. Even Dravid gave a great interview to Mark Nicholas, that was a pleasure.

  • karthik_krishna1984 on January 29, 2012, 20:04 GMT

    my points for the indian team, Kohli-5.5, ashwin-5, umesh yadav,zaheer khan, sachin-4.5, Gambhir-4, Ishant,dravid,sehwag-3, dhoni-2, laxman,vinay kumar-1

  • on January 29, 2012, 20:00 GMT

    There was no reason to spend so much time and effort in writing this marks sheet. There should be only two paragraphs : Virat Kohli and Sachin - 7 ... The "Rest of the Team" - ZERO !!! That's it !!

  • on January 29, 2012, 20:00 GMT

    This is ridiculous! Ishant deserves -1 for the exciting stuff he dished out in this series.

  • on January 29, 2012, 19:54 GMT

    How did Dhoni get 0.5 points? For what?

  • on January 29, 2012, 19:51 GMT

    i think india missed Anil kumble

  • on January 29, 2012, 19:43 GMT

    best was Dhobi's!! :) find that textbook and burnt it ASAP!!

  • johnathonjosephs on January 29, 2012, 19:22 GMT

    Agree Ishant bowled pretty good, but was very unlucky. Twice he had his man but was dropped and additional two times (each to both Ponting and Clarke) he had them edged through third slip, a place where Sehwag had nobody though he had a 2nd and a 4th. Dhoni deserves a .5, if not for his batting for his poor captaincy and field placings. But Laxman a 1? He may have been the worse batsman and the big disappointment, but considering that cricinfo gave Shaun Marsh a 1 (average of 3 runs per innings for his 17 runs in the series), I would say Laxman at least deserves a 2 like that of Dravid? Ashwin's rating should be higher. His bowling was pretty good considering the conditions and his batting was nothing short of phenomenal

  • andy1984 on January 29, 2012, 19:15 GMT

    To Aravind Srinivas- You for get one thing my friend, Kumble took 20 wickets in 4 tests in 2007-2008 and 24 in 3 tests in 2002-2003. How can you call Australia as the graveyard of spin bowling? The deal is ashwin and Harbhajan and to an extent murali as well lack the variations required to succeed in Australia.

  • StatisticsRocks on January 29, 2012, 19:13 GMT

    Even though I agree with some of the scores here I am surprised to see Sachin still getting a relatively high score, for a man who did not even score one century, did not play the usual self (attacking) and got too much bogged down by that Elusive 100th century. Common he has played 22 innings including the England tour, WI home tour, and the current Australia tour and yet people are so afraid to criticise him. Everyone is behind Dravid but Dravid has 4 centuries in last 22 innings against 0 for Sachin. I think none of the Indians deseve ascore of above 4 as nobody showed the guts to stand up and fight. Their body language, their preparation everything was lacking. Most importantly they were arrogant both heer and in Eng series and thought it would be a cake walk for them being world champions and all.

  • kingcobra85 on January 29, 2012, 19:07 GMT

    Ishanth gets 4 points ? is he watching some other seires ? the guy was bowling way out on the off side batsment didnt even had to play at his deliveries.... in SA, ENG AND AUS ishanth has average above 30..i would say its time we looked beyond him...plus his finger gate is ridiculous

  • fr_cricket on January 29, 2012, 18:57 GMT

    3 for Ashwin is extremely harsh on him considering the nature of pitches he played. I do agree he was not consistent in his line and tend to bowl on the legs occasionally which could be due to defensive field settings, but still he doesn't fit into the below average category per this evaluation when few others like Ishant who bowled one more test and still ended up taking fewer wickets than Ashwin and moreover you can't give an excuse on being unlucky. So please do a fair evaluation based on the performance than adding points for off-field talents like facing media which doesn't really help the cause.

  • Vinod on January 29, 2012, 18:56 GMT

    I agree with the marks for Dhon. I was not sure what he was thinking. His field placement suggests that may be he thought he was playing an ODI and not a test!. Dhoni may be good ODI captain and he is definitely not a Test captain.

    Also R Vinay Kumar 2.0 ? He should be - 2.0 (minus)

  • mani_narayan on January 29, 2012, 18:22 GMT

    Dont agree with some of these ratings.. I would change the following:

    Umesh Yadav 6 - its his first series and he did a decent job Ashwin 5.5 - batted well, bowled ok, fielding i dont know. Compare his numbers to what our other spinners did on previous tours Saha - 5.5 - again wicketkeeping was good, batting was not bad for his first test in australia Sachin 4 - For his experience, he did pretty poorly. His fielding is not that great either. Again, I know he is a great player but you cant rest on your laurels. Its what you did in the last two series that matters.

    I agree with Kohili getting 6.5 though he scored only a few more runs than Sachin because it is his first tour in australia. Sachin has batted there many more times and with his experience he should have done a lot better. Plus Kohli saves a lot more runs in the field.

  • on January 29, 2012, 18:15 GMT

    Definitely a biased rating, but no doubt that Indian Team's performance is poor... Its really ridiculous to see Ishant's rating is too high n Ashwin got only few rating despite his decent performance.. its understood that whatever ratin given here by some jerk is not a gonna judge the career of every single player in Indian team :)

  • on January 29, 2012, 18:15 GMT

    perfect except ashwin.....he shud given be 5 or 4

  • on January 29, 2012, 18:13 GMT

    Totally agree, this shows the true state of affairs, i blame the BCCI, learn from Pakistan, money is not everything, would love a test series between Pak and India, but we know that the BCCI will never sanction it as they know the result, another whitewash :-)

  • SachinRao on January 29, 2012, 17:38 GMT

    I dont agree with 3 selections: Ishant...4?? U his best friend??He doesnt deserve more than 1-2. Vinay Kumar with 2 is must be most lenient indeed. 0.5 for Dhoni is ridiculous indeed, 1 or 2 would be apt.

  • on January 29, 2012, 17:38 GMT

    if u continue dravid sachin laxman why cant u try sunil gudappa and dilip?

  • Mopsy on January 29, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    Bowling average of 48 in SA, 58 in England and 90 in Australia, all bowler friendly wickets, it is rubbish to say Ishant was unlucky, he should get a zero and should be the first person to be dropped.

  • deol84 on January 29, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    Leave virat and yadav out they played well compared to flop trio,com-on India let them go and move on to the next genration.

  • mowgliworld on January 29, 2012, 17:24 GMT

    Please publish stats and methodology for your rating. Otherwise its an arbitrary assignment of numbers to players. Why is Gambhir 2 and Laxman 1?

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 29, 2012, 17:05 GMT

    Who is this cricinfo staff that says Ashwin 3 and Ishant 4? Are you out of your mind Sir? 1) Just bowling wise Ashwin bowled well and got more wickets than Ishant Sharma on those flat pitches for spinners. This in itself should have put Ashwin above Ishant. 2) Next, what about the runs that Ashwin scored huh? So, no points for his batting then? Very bad rating as far as these two players are concerned.

  • aks1812 on January 29, 2012, 17:05 GMT

    Monga has made herculean blunders at two or three places in this article. Ashwin deservs far more that 3. He is the third highest scorer and third highest wicket taker and hence if you are measuring with the same yard stick he should be up there with zaheer. Absolutely rubbish with Vinay Kumar. He came and went without making any impact what so ever and he gets to be placed with RAHUl DRAVID. What is wrong with Mr. Monga. This kind of article smacks of the favouritism that is prevalent in the media. A similar incident happened when Mr. Monga rated Murli Vijays century during last australias tour of india to be less than Cheteswar Pujara. Whereas as far as fact goes both were equally important. I wont be surprised if due to this rubbish writing in all sections of media ...ashwin gets dropped and forgotten just like the media has put forward the picture that mukund was a failure whereas the truth he did reasonably well

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 29, 2012, 16:55 GMT

    So now, the most ridiculous player is captaining the team and says he'll wait before taking a decision on the seniors. What an irony! That sums up India's woes. Shame!

  • on January 29, 2012, 16:47 GMT

    At the end of the day these ratings mean very little and prove one thing... In the world of International cricket its all about money because if it wasn't then Australia would of played a three test series against India and a three test series against New Zealand, everyone with half a cricket brain now sees that four tests against India was a joke when the only team to beat Australia this season was New Zealand ! This should be a wake up call to the ICC its not about traditional rivalries its about whos playing the best cricket at the time !!

  • on January 29, 2012, 16:36 GMT

    India should drop all players with 4 and below ratings.

  • playitstraight on January 29, 2012, 16:36 GMT

    The author was too kind on MS Dhoni, he deserves a 0 for his defensive tactics, fielding placements and captaincy. Even his batting was horrible, you can't even call him a Test batsmen now. VVS too deserved a 0, his fielding was one of the worst I have seen. Kohli did not deserve a 6.5, he deserved a 5 for his behaviour (flipping the bird and standing still when umpire gave him out lbw when he was on 0). Now the BCCI will give him another 10 Tests, and in the last Test when he is about to get dropped, he will make a century and half-century and then will be given another 10 Tests to play. The youngsters will keep on waiting and the seniors will keep on taking their place for granted and not perform, waiting until the 'right time' comes to retire. Such is life, and cricket. Sadly.

  • Vkarthik on January 29, 2012, 16:21 GMT

    Why Ishant gets 4 for his crappy bowling. If you ask me he was the biggest culprit for not providing semblance of support. Ashwin provided break throughs in both innings at the start at Adelaide oval. Yet ishant gets 4 but Ashwin gets 3?

  • buntyj on January 29, 2012, 16:15 GMT

    its interesting to note that while ashwins bowling in oz has been criticised by many (and defects correctly analysed by mallett) his performance in 3 tests on his maiden tour is equal to or marginally superior to experienced bhajjis (who also had advantage of fine record in india vs oz) in 4 tests in oz over 3 tours on each of the following parameters- total wickets, best innings bowling, best match bowling, average per wkt, economy, strike rate and of course, batting too; bhajji remains the better fielder tho.

  • vinayespn on January 29, 2012, 16:06 GMT

    Accurate scores according to me.. Rohit Sharma should be given a perfect 10 for carrying drinks to these awful players without losing his cool and patience.. Duncan Fletcher should be given 0.0

  • on January 29, 2012, 16:03 GMT

    Dhoni doesn't deserve more than a 0.5. His captaincy is terrible. Saha batted better than him. He should soon learn from his mistakes or else he might pay a terrible price.

  • givemefood on January 29, 2012, 16:02 GMT

    Don't quite agree with your rating. Everyone knows that Dravid and Laxman deserve 0. There was nothing positive about their batting or fielding. Dhoni should also be included in that category.

  • itsthewayuplay on January 29, 2012, 15:49 GMT

    Kohli on his tour to Australia makes a 100. Ponting hadn't scored a century for over 2 years gets a double and a single century in consecutive tests. So how does Tendulkar with over 50 centuries and the most number of runs in tests and doesn't a single century in 8 innings including a match on a flat pitch score as high as a 5? Why were Laxman's performances any more or less disappointing than either those or Dravid or Tendulkar? Methinks there is an agenda for score of 1 for Laxman.

  • buntyj on January 29, 2012, 15:42 GMT

    ishant deserved only a 1 he was a great failure; not unlucky , manjrekar has correctly analysed his flaws; because of his length (because of faulty wrist positions too) n angle he actually looks better than hes bowling as the ball is often not in the zone for batsmen to connect. bowlers usually need to make the batsmen play in order to get wickets; ojha shouldve played in his place at adelaide certainly n i think at perth too;

  • itsthewayuplay on January 29, 2012, 15:38 GMT

    The title of this article highlights the obsession with the batting. The bowling hass overall been hopeless and clueless. You cannot expect to score 600+ every test but you can expect bowlers to bowl as a pack to win you tests or at the very least compete. India has not competed because they have failed to apply the basics of bowling line and length which can be done in any country in any condition. Once they've done this and become familiar with the conditions they can then start thinking about the other fancy stuff like reverse swing movement off the seam, short pitch stuff. But it all begins with BASICs, BASICS, BASICS.

  • buntyj on January 29, 2012, 15:36 GMT

    yadav deserved a 6 n ashwin a 4.5 ; he looked the best organised indian batsman apart from sachin n kohli n wasnt afraid to hook; as a bowler he was given defensive role by his captains; n if kumble could be groomed for gully y not ashwin? hes not going to become athletic at this point in his life but could be developed into a safe or even good gully fielder (height helps at gully).

  • captaincool on January 29, 2012, 15:25 GMT

    To me, the selectors should be now selecting a team of 12-13 players only in a series. What is the point in having a squad of 16-17 when you keep playing the same set of players, even though you keep losing in identical fashion.Had we ever found Ganguly and Dravid if Manjrekar and Sidhu( he went back to India) weren't dropped just after the first test failure back in 96. This was an ideal platform for players like Shrama and Rahaneto make their debuts and they could have gained some vital overseas experience.

  • VickGower on January 29, 2012, 15:23 GMT

    Aren't this rankings supposed to be done by someone who knows cricket? And barring that, has at least watched the series? Is there an editor who audits these things? Dhoni 0.5?! That is so irrational that it's very much in the personal vendetta category. Where to start? He was keeping too you know, and keeping pretty flawlessly. That is surely worth a point. Because then you have Haddin who was useless while batting and dropping catches left and right. What do you give him? And here's a thought experiment for the luminary who put this junk together: Give me the name of ONE captain - dead or alive - who could captain a team whose batting unit is struggling to put together even 200 runs. You may not remember but Sehwag tried his hand with this unit and ended up with the same defensive mentality and a wipe out. Why is he not a 0.5 too?

  • torsha on January 29, 2012, 15:21 GMT

    This is ridiculous! How on earth can you give Dhoni 0.5 and Marsh 1? And also Vinay kumar, Ishant and Saha should be lower than Gambhir. Ashwin should have been higher as well. 0.5 to Dhoni is just too HARSH.

  • Harpreet on January 29, 2012, 15:04 GMT

    @natasrik & Subhayu Mukherjee. Stop supporting Ashwin. He doesn't deserve even 2.5. He got all d wkts in India on turning tracks & against weak attack. How can u say he is better bowler than Harbhajan when both of them have not played together on the same track, under same conditions & same opposition. I am sure Bhaji would hv done better than him. Virat deserves more than 6.5

  • Brumby90 on January 29, 2012, 14:46 GMT

    Many markings were way too harsh and over the top. 0.5? Thats just ridiculous. And Saying the whole world was against Kholi? Give me a break. the guy is a wwhinger and tries to blame his arrogance and sledging on others.

  • karthik_krishna1984 on January 29, 2012, 14:31 GMT

    I would have given Ashwin a 6. The poor guy looked Indias Best Batsmen and most technically equipped to handle the OZ bowling despite batting at 8. He seemed to have more time to play his shots than any of his illustrious mates. As far as bowling is concerned the wicket was nowhere close to giving any aid to the spinners. I thought he did a very decent job with the ball as well, one also felt dhoni was too defensive in his field setting for ashwin and used him more as a containing option. Too many slow fielders on Large Australian grounds made it easy for the Oz's to churn the strike around against Ashwin. I think alongside Kohli, Ashwin will be one who could captain Indian test side in the Future.

  • on January 29, 2012, 14:19 GMT

    Unlike in sub-continent where the top-order batsmen gets more runs, in these kind of pitches the lower middle order batsmen have less testing conditions. Australia had Ponting, Clark & Hussey at 4,5,6 while India had SRT,VVS & Kohli. In hindsight, VVS should have been dropped for Rahane opening with Dravid & Sehwag at 5 and 6. Kohli should have been given opportunity to bat at 3 to see how he fares .....

  • on January 29, 2012, 14:07 GMT

    India Whitewashed 4-0 ? its not a big news or something new for us But what was significant that they got beaten by the team whose captain Micheal Clarke had given up on the offers of The Big Bash and IPL to just play for his team's success and how great was his success ;) Wonder how many Indian players will give up the IPL now ??????

  • tpjpower on January 29, 2012, 14:06 GMT

    For all that Laxman disappointed, there's no way he can finish with the same marks as Marsh. At least VVS crossed 50. Ashwin and even Gambhir deserve better marks too. And 0.5 seems harsh, even on MSD.

  • on January 29, 2012, 14:01 GMT

    Well Shaun Marsh on 1 and so too VVS. That seems to be unfair. Aswin's 3 also seems to be unfair.

  • shrastogi on January 29, 2012, 13:53 GMT

    Whosever giving 4 points to Ishant & 0.5 to Dhoni and done this rating is simply out of his mind. Dhoni can be cricticised for poor batting and uninspiring captaincy but his keeping was alright. The whole problem is that how can the whole team get so badly out of form in six months when only parameter that has changed is the coach. The same Dhoni wasd arling of the nation when he won the world cup. Is there a change in his approach ? I dont think so. The problem is when the resources at your disposal dont perform as per expectation the same captaincy goes haywire. I'm sure if Tendulkar wasnt dropped 5 times by nervy Pakistan in SF the world cup would also have been a different story. We have also seen that too much guidance to players which Tendulkar used to do as catain doesnt help either. I feel Dhoni should have handled Yadav better as he is absolutely raw. Other than that the whole series is a player let down problem rather than captaincy issue.

  • JustOUT on January 29, 2012, 13:49 GMT

    Dhoni doesn't even deserve for.5.

  • on January 29, 2012, 13:47 GMT

    This is madness. Indian should have been rated marks out of 5. Why waste 10? The side is only fit to play on the dead tracks of India against popcorn bowling. Then again no Test team should be given merit based on home advantage performances. There is no superior test teams at the moment. Hopefully Pakistan may prove me wrong.

  • on January 29, 2012, 13:46 GMT

    Well - everybody who has seen a cricket ball seems hell bent on removing Sachin, Rahul, Laxman. What about Sehwag and Gambhir! They are accountable too and should be kept on bench for some time. Regarding MSD, if he is part of the team - then he must as a captain. Sehwag as a captain - well good luck to all supporters!

  • SAJIL_KERALA on January 29, 2012, 13:29 GMT

    Here many says that Dhoni's rating is too harsh, but I would say that whoever give this rating to Dhoni is too lenient. India had some sort of chance in the first test when they reduced Australia to 4/30 or so. And Dhoni blew it away when he pushed most of his fielders to the boundary forgetting the fact that he is playing a test match where wicket taking is important rather restricting the opponent. how can our mediocre bowlers can take wicket when there is nobody in the catching position. Batsman's were under no pressure and easily pushed their lead. This is the same captain who refused to chase 80 odd runs in 15 overs when you have 7 wickets in hand.

  • on January 29, 2012, 13:26 GMT

    While one debates who should or shouldn't get points, the one unanimous position in this equation is that team India (collectively) deserved a minus.

  • SAJIL_KERALA on January 29, 2012, 13:15 GMT

    Why Vinay kumar is ranked 2? He was a disgrace for fast bowlers. And why Dhoni 0.5, he should have minus 5 because of his unimaginative captaincy, poor batting, keeping, attitude, nepotism in selecting his favorites. Ishanth, with five wickets in four matches, deserves only 2 points but Ashwin should get 4.

  • GreatWhitePathan on January 29, 2012, 13:10 GMT

    Like most sub-continent players, they are virtually hopeless against the moving, swinging, seaming ball yet they thinking winning at home makes them the best team in the world. You can only imagine how many runs the likes of Ponting and Kallis would have scored if they were Indian.

  • on January 29, 2012, 13:02 GMT

    2007 wc exit shows that they cant produce match winning moments in odi any more,i meant the stupid sachin n dravid...now its turn for the test

  • MENDIS_Forever on January 29, 2012, 12:58 GMT

    poor dhoni..The first time I saw a 1> value on this stat page.

  • on January 29, 2012, 12:56 GMT

    ishant 4???????lol ..he is main distroyer for india..couldnt support yadav n zak....stop calling unluckey n unlucky..he deserves 0...along with vvs who batted like noob and droped atleast 5 catches if not more...

  • ansram on January 29, 2012, 12:55 GMT

    I would not give more than 4 to any Indian player because nobody showed a fight when the situation was called for. At least in England Dravid put up a stiff fight finishing with an avg of 77. Here the highest average was mid thirties which does not deserve anything more than 4 in an essentially high scoring series. The less be said about the bowlers the better.

    So kohli, Sachin,Yadav, Zaheer -4; Ashwin, Ishant-3;Sehwag, Gautam, Dravid -2; Vinay, Laxman - 1; Dhoni - 0;

  • on January 29, 2012, 12:55 GMT

    Ssenthil u r the pot calling the kettle black. Kohli scored more runs in the series and a century to boot, of course he should have rated better than Sachin who always looked the money but then managed to get himself out. Zaheer Khan was the most consistent bowler of the series but lacked the supportive bowling that the Aussies have. Create pressure from both ends and you get wickets, Zaheer was left to create it all on his own. Ashwin and Dhoni's ratings in my opinion are a bit harsh. Ashwin showed promise with both bat and ball and well while Dhoni's tactics were negative and batting poor, his captaincy can't b completely to blame when the world's greatest batting line up struggles to post 200.

  • Gizza on January 29, 2012, 12:29 GMT

    Only Kohli and Yadav deserve a pass mark of 5 or above. Why Tendulkar? He couldn't get a hundred. He should be at 3 or 4. And Zaheer doesn't deserve to get 5 just because he stayed fit. What a silly reason he also deserves a 3. And Ishant should get a 1. Ashwin probably increase to 3.5 purely because of his batting. Lyon outbowled him which was embarrassing.

  • on January 29, 2012, 12:11 GMT

    dhoni gets 0.5... agreed! but hw the hell 1 mark for marsh? his inclusion and exclusion didnt trouble the scoreboard much. Australia in a way was batting with 10 batsmen overall and 6 batsmen overall. third drop place was more or less invisible. he must be given 0 marks. haddin again out of form and deserved nothing more than 1. i think umesh yadav deserved atleast 6 considerring he was inexperienced and by far the most threatening of the indian bowlers and of course took the only five-for from indian side.

  • Fourworldcups on January 29, 2012, 11:21 GMT

    Mostly agree, although it is a bit harsh on Ashwin, Yadav probably deserved to be a tad higher as well. I'd have given Dhoni 1.5 as well, when the entire team more or less failed, you can't simply blame the keeper. As for the Aussie legends scores, what more was Clarke supposed to do in order to be given a 10? Highest run scorer plus all of the records, captaining his first home Test Summer to a whitewash win of the then no2 team. He joined Ponting with Aus in huge trouble at 3 down for nothing at the SCG and basically ended the series there and then with his bat.

  • VJGS on January 29, 2012, 11:20 GMT

    How is Sehwag better than Dhoni? Please tell me. Both of them have a half century each in the series. Both of them couldn't captain a winning side (of course, the captain is only as good as his team). Dhoni's 50 was better as he was anchoring the entire Indian side, but was losing partners fast. He was even unbeaten. TOI (newspaper in India) has reported that Sehwag wasn't even cooperating with Dhoni, hece undermining his authority - exactly what a captain needs when his team is under-performing, collectively.

  • kaushal_raut on January 29, 2012, 10:55 GMT

    Why there is no negative marking.

  • smudgeon on January 29, 2012, 10:50 GMT

    Heh...that think about Dhoni's captaincy textbook made me snort milk through my nose. And I don't drink milk. A bit harsh, perhaps, to give him 0.5, but in the context of the series, Dhoni did little to lead his team on the field or off. Hopefully India are embarrassed enough by this series loss to TO DO SOMETHING TO FIX IT. If not, then why bother turning up?

  • on January 29, 2012, 10:34 GMT

    Way too kind on Ishant. He should not be bowling for the national team until he learns to bowl better lengths and lines. Praveen Kumar or Irfan Pathan would have been a better choice.

    The sad thing is, I bet any of Rajastan's three medium pacers could have done a better job than Ishant.

  • syedmkr on January 29, 2012, 10:31 GMT

    None of the players who rank below average will care about these marks! Even the BCCI doesnot worry about the test matches for a while as they now focus on lucrative money making business...

  • bhanuma_nagadeep on January 29, 2012, 10:29 GMT

    I wonder why 2 points for vinay kumar!!! he deserve zero!!

  • on January 29, 2012, 10:25 GMT

    sehwag hasnt scored a hundred abroad (in eng,aus,wi,sa or nz) since 08 - 4 years. he avgs 17 abroad.

    get dravid n laxman out. get kohli and rohit sharma and pujara in. drop useless bowlers like vinay kumar and force ishant n sehwag to quit ipl and play in county for 2 years.

    and if india wants to have any chance of winning 2015 worldcup downunder in aus, they should make kohli captain of odi n t20 team right away. and 2 years or so later when india start touring again, make him test captain. in 2 years he'll be settled in test cricket anyawys.

    also drop dhoni and get saha.

    get rid of duncan fletcher as well. india doesnt need coach.

    IF INDIA DO ALL THIS THEY CAN WIN ANYWHERE.

  • ian_ghose on January 29, 2012, 10:24 GMT

    And now, even Darren Sammy looks like a better Test match player and captain than MS Dhoni!!! There's an old saying - BS can take you to the top, but it can't keep you there....

  • on January 29, 2012, 10:00 GMT

    Mostly agree with the ratings. Thought Ashwin's 3 was harsh, particularly considering a far more experienced Ishant Sharma, in helpful conditions performed poorer. Also Ashwin's batting has to be given some credit, although India shouldn't be llooking at a latter day Harbhajan Singh in him.

  • on January 29, 2012, 9:53 GMT

    Good analytical document and unbaised to some extent. I only have one thing to say to the captain: One who doesn't learn from his mistakes, is a fool. You still have time, in the next upcoming series show that your captaincy atleast is at its best, even if the other bemoan you. Else, be ready for a replacement, if not now, but in future.

  • natasrik on January 29, 2012, 9:43 GMT

    Who ever done this analysis, probably gone nuts I suppose. How on earth you can give 0.5 to dhoni, 3 to Ashwin, while giving pleasing numbers to Viru, Ishant, Saha. Infact after Kohli the next man should be Ashwin. Sachin 5 an absolute no.

  • on January 29, 2012, 9:42 GMT

    Perhaps the author is too harsh on Ashwin. He tried his best to take wickets on the graveyards of spin bowling, and managed 8 wickets in 3 matches. Remember muttiah muralidaran took only 4 wickets in the last aus series he played, and harbhajan's record in australia is abysmal too. He deserves 5 points for bailing out india of a bigger disaster by his batting, and also bowled well. I personally think dhoni is an ODI hero, and a test-match zero. So we need a new team before the next test series.

  • SRThero on January 29, 2012, 9:22 GMT

    perfect.no need to argue.retirement must be according to these marks.

  • on January 29, 2012, 9:21 GMT

    This is totally rubbish.. What u expect from a captain to do if the team doesnt even score 200 in the 1st innings.. He can neither attack nor be defensive.. Its a collective failure and Dhoni tried to do something but it was too late and all those so called super stars of Indian cricket were out cheaply without much on the board.. 0.5 to MS Dhoni is senseless if u understand what is cricket.. The bowlers were pathetic at times and even they shouldnt be pointed out.. I would say its the irresponsible Top and middle order that needs to be criticized..

  • AvidFanDownUnder on January 29, 2012, 9:18 GMT

    I would have given Yadav a higher score and definitely higher than Zaheer Khan but at the end of the day the most of the Indian players were disappointing. Hope they play better in the limited overs series.

  • ssenthil on January 29, 2012, 9:15 GMT

    Completely biased marks, Whoever done this absolutely wrong except the last 2 for VVS Laxman and MS Dhoni. How on this earth Kohli done better then Sachin just becoz he scored a century in the Flattest of all tracks? He lacked conviction against moving balls and he dropped catches and he is not good boy in the field as well. Only Sachin and Zak deserves 5. Rest are below that level. Umesh, Virat and Ashwin (Who was 3rd leading Average Played only 3 Matches and Taken more wickets then Ishant still below Ishant? Completely biased) can be given 4 each. Saha deserves 3. Ishant can be given 2. Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid and Vinay Kumar gets one. Laxman and Dhoni 0.5. This should be the marks they deserve. I have nothing against Kohli and happy he was firmly having a leg in Test arena as well. But I won't agree he Improved hell a lot. If he play against swing he will be sitting duck.

  • Okakaboka on January 29, 2012, 9:13 GMT

    No! How can you give Dohni 0.5 yet give Marsh 1. Marsh is definitely a 0. What did Marsh contribute but nearly a world record for the lowest total in a series by a batsman rated in the top 6. Dohni deserves 1 to 1.5. Still a better gloveman than Haddin. Haddin should have gotten a 2. Hilfy, Ponting, Clarke and Siddle all deserved 9......

  • arya_underfoot on January 29, 2012, 9:09 GMT

    pretty fair ratings for most of the players. howver, kohli and tendulkar got a few undeserved points. i think umesh yadav is the only player who deserves a 5 in the indian team. at least he worked ridiculously hard and never folded.

  • on January 29, 2012, 9:09 GMT

    This is the first time I have seen someone getting less than 2 points on cricinfo and dhoni just got 0.5. They were indeed very poor this series.

  • rahulcricket007 on January 29, 2012, 9:02 GMT

    AGAIN I AM SEEING PEOPLE SAYING ISHANT BOWLED WELL , LOOL . I DON'T KNOW TAKING 5 WKTS FROM 4 MATCHES IS CONSIDERD AS BOWLING WELL .HE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO BOWL . REMOVE HIM FROM THE TEAM .

  • on January 29, 2012, 9:02 GMT

    0.5 for M S Dhoni???? a little high.... :D

  • on January 29, 2012, 8:57 GMT

    It is an irony that Doni who has been a miserable failure for quite some time tells the media that he shall wait before taking any decision on the future of the seniors when his place in the team is a question mark.He has been the most underperformed playser in this series. His captaincy lacks any imagination and i feel he is a misfit to lead India. I think he should better shut his mouth rather than passing unnecessary comments about legends of cricket.

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  • on January 29, 2012, 8:57 GMT

    It is an irony that Doni who has been a miserable failure for quite some time tells the media that he shall wait before taking any decision on the future of the seniors when his place in the team is a question mark.He has been the most underperformed playser in this series. His captaincy lacks any imagination and i feel he is a misfit to lead India. I think he should better shut his mouth rather than passing unnecessary comments about legends of cricket.

  • on January 29, 2012, 9:02 GMT

    0.5 for M S Dhoni???? a little high.... :D

  • rahulcricket007 on January 29, 2012, 9:02 GMT

    AGAIN I AM SEEING PEOPLE SAYING ISHANT BOWLED WELL , LOOL . I DON'T KNOW TAKING 5 WKTS FROM 4 MATCHES IS CONSIDERD AS BOWLING WELL .HE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO BOWL . REMOVE HIM FROM THE TEAM .

  • on January 29, 2012, 9:09 GMT

    This is the first time I have seen someone getting less than 2 points on cricinfo and dhoni just got 0.5. They were indeed very poor this series.

  • arya_underfoot on January 29, 2012, 9:09 GMT

    pretty fair ratings for most of the players. howver, kohli and tendulkar got a few undeserved points. i think umesh yadav is the only player who deserves a 5 in the indian team. at least he worked ridiculously hard and never folded.

  • Okakaboka on January 29, 2012, 9:13 GMT

    No! How can you give Dohni 0.5 yet give Marsh 1. Marsh is definitely a 0. What did Marsh contribute but nearly a world record for the lowest total in a series by a batsman rated in the top 6. Dohni deserves 1 to 1.5. Still a better gloveman than Haddin. Haddin should have gotten a 2. Hilfy, Ponting, Clarke and Siddle all deserved 9......

  • ssenthil on January 29, 2012, 9:15 GMT

    Completely biased marks, Whoever done this absolutely wrong except the last 2 for VVS Laxman and MS Dhoni. How on this earth Kohli done better then Sachin just becoz he scored a century in the Flattest of all tracks? He lacked conviction against moving balls and he dropped catches and he is not good boy in the field as well. Only Sachin and Zak deserves 5. Rest are below that level. Umesh, Virat and Ashwin (Who was 3rd leading Average Played only 3 Matches and Taken more wickets then Ishant still below Ishant? Completely biased) can be given 4 each. Saha deserves 3. Ishant can be given 2. Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid and Vinay Kumar gets one. Laxman and Dhoni 0.5. This should be the marks they deserve. I have nothing against Kohli and happy he was firmly having a leg in Test arena as well. But I won't agree he Improved hell a lot. If he play against swing he will be sitting duck.

  • AvidFanDownUnder on January 29, 2012, 9:18 GMT

    I would have given Yadav a higher score and definitely higher than Zaheer Khan but at the end of the day the most of the Indian players were disappointing. Hope they play better in the limited overs series.

  • on January 29, 2012, 9:21 GMT

    This is totally rubbish.. What u expect from a captain to do if the team doesnt even score 200 in the 1st innings.. He can neither attack nor be defensive.. Its a collective failure and Dhoni tried to do something but it was too late and all those so called super stars of Indian cricket were out cheaply without much on the board.. 0.5 to MS Dhoni is senseless if u understand what is cricket.. The bowlers were pathetic at times and even they shouldnt be pointed out.. I would say its the irresponsible Top and middle order that needs to be criticized..

  • SRThero on January 29, 2012, 9:22 GMT

    perfect.no need to argue.retirement must be according to these marks.