Big Bash League 2011-12 November 16, 2011

Dernbach signs up with Melbourne Stars

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England seamer Jade Dernbach has signed with Melbourne Stars for the Big Bash league. Dernbach has played 13 ODIs and five Twenty20s for England, averaging 41.56 and 15 with the ball respectively. He'll be part of a bowling line-up that includes Peter Siddle and Shane Warne.

"With the recent signing of Warne plus the likes of White, Hussey and Siddle in the squad, I know we are going to be the team to watch in this competition," Dernbach said. "I can't wait to run out at the MCG with the Stars shirt on my back and play my part in bringing the BBL trophy to the Stars."

"He is an aggressive and highly skilled change of pace bowler who will provide further options for the Stars especially with key all-rounder John Hastings missing the season through injury," the Melbourne Stars coach Greg Shipperd added.

Dernbach's earned a reputation as being an effective bowler, particularly in the death overs, with this variations in pace that include a well-disguised slower ball. He is the second Englishman to join the team, allrounder Luke Wright being the other.

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  • AlanHarrison on November 19, 2011, 12:14 GMT

    Do you remember Jack Simmons and Neil Williams? If so you probably have a better memory than most England fans. These are players who finished their careers with a combined total of 1 international appearance for England (i.e., less than Dernbach has already) put together. They have one other thing in common: they both played Sheffield Shield cricket, where they were were considered valuable professionals in their sides. I wonder in these circumstances how certain Australian fans can be so certain that their teams (and their younger players) won't benefit from having the likes of Dernbach and Collingwood, and don't need such assistance from outside. It seems a little conceited to take that attitude.

  • Meety on November 17, 2011, 23:38 GMT

    @AlanHarrison - yes 18 counties + god knows how many Universitiy teams that get an FC gig every now & then. Yes more places to fill - but you've just argued the point against yourself as Oz only have 6 teams, which means (assuming limited injuries & the test team is not available) - only 66 players are in the running to make the test team. Waugh's comment were about Thorpe playing, he eventually didn't play, but was involved in a coaching role which was where it should of been anyways as NSW's biggest problem is fitting their roster into 11 spots each week.

  • AlanHarrison on November 17, 2011, 11:59 GMT

    @Meety, well there are indeed differences between Australian and English domestic cricket, but one of the important ones which you don't mention is that there are 18 English counties whereas there were only 6 state sides in the Sheffield Shield. That is massively more places to fill in English sides. Hence I don't think Poms bemoaning counties fielding the likes of DiVenuto is a reasonable thing to gripe about, but neither is Steve Waugh's attitude on the assumption that Australia has nothing to learn from Poms (or anyone else): it obviously does!

  • Meety on November 17, 2011, 1:12 GMT

    @AlanHarrison - massive difference in the quality of player between Richards & Thorpe & then Thorpe to Dernbach. Fundamental differences in the way cricket has ben played domestically between the countries. Players from around the world have flocked to County cricket for the experience of playing 24/7 cricket of varying degrees of standard. In Oz, very few have sought or been asked to play in our domestic comp. Mainly due to historically (not so much now with the BBL), the amount of games in any season is far less. Pre-BBL, Shield sides would only go after Blue-chip players. In England you still have players like DiVenuto doing the rounds! I would bemoan that if I was a Pom!

  • WilliamFranklin on November 16, 2011, 12:24 GMT

    Yawn. Does where you grow up have no bearing on which country you play for? Just because you happen to born somewhere does not mean you have to play for that nation. Khawaji and Symonds anyone?

    Sounds like a few of those down under will be a little surprised with Dirty. One of the most improved players of the past 2 years in England.

    p.s. Was there for his first class 50 no, he can swing.

  • AlanHarrison on November 16, 2011, 11:37 GMT

    I have to say some of the reactions to this news remind me of Steve Waugh's comment when Graham Thorpe was signed by New South Wales in the spring of 2005: "Why do we need a Pom to help us out?" The result of the next test series Australia played showed certain things that could be learnt by Aussies from Poms. I'm also reminded of Aussies like Ponting defending Phil Hughes getting a stint in English domestic cricket in England ahead of the 2009 Ashes. To be fair there is a difference however between Australian and English fans attitudes to overseas players in their domestic game. Australian fans seem deluded into believing no overseas player is good enough to prosper in their domestic game (I mean look at Barry Richards, as if he was so terrible ...) whereas England fans moan about overseas players taking a place in a team that could have gone to an English player. I'm really not sure which set of national characteristics thus revealed is the least attractive.

  • on November 16, 2011, 8:58 GMT

    There are many talented T20 bowlers across the globe who can bat a bit unlike this Dernbach. So this is not a good signing by MBStars.

  • Charlie101 on November 16, 2011, 8:54 GMT

    D-Train Dermbach is in the number 1 world rated team so he can bowl !!!

  • Gizza on November 16, 2011, 8:52 GMT

    Looks like the Stars wanted to bring in a South African flavour into their squad.

  • jazzaaaaaaaa on November 16, 2011, 7:52 GMT

    Umm whyyyy? His record is nothing special and most Aussies wouldnt even know who he is. They would of been better off trying a youngster if they couldnt sign a top class player.

  • AlanHarrison on November 19, 2011, 12:14 GMT

    Do you remember Jack Simmons and Neil Williams? If so you probably have a better memory than most England fans. These are players who finished their careers with a combined total of 1 international appearance for England (i.e., less than Dernbach has already) put together. They have one other thing in common: they both played Sheffield Shield cricket, where they were were considered valuable professionals in their sides. I wonder in these circumstances how certain Australian fans can be so certain that their teams (and their younger players) won't benefit from having the likes of Dernbach and Collingwood, and don't need such assistance from outside. It seems a little conceited to take that attitude.

  • Meety on November 17, 2011, 23:38 GMT

    @AlanHarrison - yes 18 counties + god knows how many Universitiy teams that get an FC gig every now & then. Yes more places to fill - but you've just argued the point against yourself as Oz only have 6 teams, which means (assuming limited injuries & the test team is not available) - only 66 players are in the running to make the test team. Waugh's comment were about Thorpe playing, he eventually didn't play, but was involved in a coaching role which was where it should of been anyways as NSW's biggest problem is fitting their roster into 11 spots each week.

  • AlanHarrison on November 17, 2011, 11:59 GMT

    @Meety, well there are indeed differences between Australian and English domestic cricket, but one of the important ones which you don't mention is that there are 18 English counties whereas there were only 6 state sides in the Sheffield Shield. That is massively more places to fill in English sides. Hence I don't think Poms bemoaning counties fielding the likes of DiVenuto is a reasonable thing to gripe about, but neither is Steve Waugh's attitude on the assumption that Australia has nothing to learn from Poms (or anyone else): it obviously does!

  • Meety on November 17, 2011, 1:12 GMT

    @AlanHarrison - massive difference in the quality of player between Richards & Thorpe & then Thorpe to Dernbach. Fundamental differences in the way cricket has ben played domestically between the countries. Players from around the world have flocked to County cricket for the experience of playing 24/7 cricket of varying degrees of standard. In Oz, very few have sought or been asked to play in our domestic comp. Mainly due to historically (not so much now with the BBL), the amount of games in any season is far less. Pre-BBL, Shield sides would only go after Blue-chip players. In England you still have players like DiVenuto doing the rounds! I would bemoan that if I was a Pom!

  • WilliamFranklin on November 16, 2011, 12:24 GMT

    Yawn. Does where you grow up have no bearing on which country you play for? Just because you happen to born somewhere does not mean you have to play for that nation. Khawaji and Symonds anyone?

    Sounds like a few of those down under will be a little surprised with Dirty. One of the most improved players of the past 2 years in England.

    p.s. Was there for his first class 50 no, he can swing.

  • AlanHarrison on November 16, 2011, 11:37 GMT

    I have to say some of the reactions to this news remind me of Steve Waugh's comment when Graham Thorpe was signed by New South Wales in the spring of 2005: "Why do we need a Pom to help us out?" The result of the next test series Australia played showed certain things that could be learnt by Aussies from Poms. I'm also reminded of Aussies like Ponting defending Phil Hughes getting a stint in English domestic cricket in England ahead of the 2009 Ashes. To be fair there is a difference however between Australian and English fans attitudes to overseas players in their domestic game. Australian fans seem deluded into believing no overseas player is good enough to prosper in their domestic game (I mean look at Barry Richards, as if he was so terrible ...) whereas England fans moan about overseas players taking a place in a team that could have gone to an English player. I'm really not sure which set of national characteristics thus revealed is the least attractive.

  • on November 16, 2011, 8:58 GMT

    There are many talented T20 bowlers across the globe who can bat a bit unlike this Dernbach. So this is not a good signing by MBStars.

  • Charlie101 on November 16, 2011, 8:54 GMT

    D-Train Dermbach is in the number 1 world rated team so he can bowl !!!

  • Gizza on November 16, 2011, 8:52 GMT

    Looks like the Stars wanted to bring in a South African flavour into their squad.

  • jazzaaaaaaaa on November 16, 2011, 7:52 GMT

    Umm whyyyy? His record is nothing special and most Aussies wouldnt even know who he is. They would of been better off trying a youngster if they couldnt sign a top class player.

  • D-Train on November 16, 2011, 5:14 GMT

    Lol. Won't even get a game. Scraping the bottom of the barrel.

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  • D-Train on November 16, 2011, 5:14 GMT

    Lol. Won't even get a game. Scraping the bottom of the barrel.

  • jazzaaaaaaaa on November 16, 2011, 7:52 GMT

    Umm whyyyy? His record is nothing special and most Aussies wouldnt even know who he is. They would of been better off trying a youngster if they couldnt sign a top class player.

  • Gizza on November 16, 2011, 8:52 GMT

    Looks like the Stars wanted to bring in a South African flavour into their squad.

  • Charlie101 on November 16, 2011, 8:54 GMT

    D-Train Dermbach is in the number 1 world rated team so he can bowl !!!

  • on November 16, 2011, 8:58 GMT

    There are many talented T20 bowlers across the globe who can bat a bit unlike this Dernbach. So this is not a good signing by MBStars.

  • AlanHarrison on November 16, 2011, 11:37 GMT

    I have to say some of the reactions to this news remind me of Steve Waugh's comment when Graham Thorpe was signed by New South Wales in the spring of 2005: "Why do we need a Pom to help us out?" The result of the next test series Australia played showed certain things that could be learnt by Aussies from Poms. I'm also reminded of Aussies like Ponting defending Phil Hughes getting a stint in English domestic cricket in England ahead of the 2009 Ashes. To be fair there is a difference however between Australian and English fans attitudes to overseas players in their domestic game. Australian fans seem deluded into believing no overseas player is good enough to prosper in their domestic game (I mean look at Barry Richards, as if he was so terrible ...) whereas England fans moan about overseas players taking a place in a team that could have gone to an English player. I'm really not sure which set of national characteristics thus revealed is the least attractive.

  • WilliamFranklin on November 16, 2011, 12:24 GMT

    Yawn. Does where you grow up have no bearing on which country you play for? Just because you happen to born somewhere does not mean you have to play for that nation. Khawaji and Symonds anyone?

    Sounds like a few of those down under will be a little surprised with Dirty. One of the most improved players of the past 2 years in England.

    p.s. Was there for his first class 50 no, he can swing.

  • Meety on November 17, 2011, 1:12 GMT

    @AlanHarrison - massive difference in the quality of player between Richards & Thorpe & then Thorpe to Dernbach. Fundamental differences in the way cricket has ben played domestically between the countries. Players from around the world have flocked to County cricket for the experience of playing 24/7 cricket of varying degrees of standard. In Oz, very few have sought or been asked to play in our domestic comp. Mainly due to historically (not so much now with the BBL), the amount of games in any season is far less. Pre-BBL, Shield sides would only go after Blue-chip players. In England you still have players like DiVenuto doing the rounds! I would bemoan that if I was a Pom!

  • AlanHarrison on November 17, 2011, 11:59 GMT

    @Meety, well there are indeed differences between Australian and English domestic cricket, but one of the important ones which you don't mention is that there are 18 English counties whereas there were only 6 state sides in the Sheffield Shield. That is massively more places to fill in English sides. Hence I don't think Poms bemoaning counties fielding the likes of DiVenuto is a reasonable thing to gripe about, but neither is Steve Waugh's attitude on the assumption that Australia has nothing to learn from Poms (or anyone else): it obviously does!

  • Meety on November 17, 2011, 23:38 GMT

    @AlanHarrison - yes 18 counties + god knows how many Universitiy teams that get an FC gig every now & then. Yes more places to fill - but you've just argued the point against yourself as Oz only have 6 teams, which means (assuming limited injuries & the test team is not available) - only 66 players are in the running to make the test team. Waugh's comment were about Thorpe playing, he eventually didn't play, but was involved in a coaching role which was where it should of been anyways as NSW's biggest problem is fitting their roster into 11 spots each week.