Politics August 13, 2010

Selection case that damns Ijaz Butt

The Karachi City Cricket Association has called for the removal of Ijaz Butt as chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board
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The Karachi City Cricket Association has called for the removal of Ijaz Butt as chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board. Its central grievance is that Karachi-based players are being discriminated against in the selection process. The facts, they argue, speak for themselves. Tanvir Ahmed is the only Karachi-based player left in the squad.

Critics have started calling the Pakistan team a Punjab XI. They identify the omissions of Younis Khan, Fawad Alam, and even Mohammad Sami as evidence to support their case. Danish Kaneria, another Karachi player, was suddenly chopped from the squad and replaced by a promising Punjabi teenager. With Umar Gul out with injury and Yasir Hameed unable to earn selection, the taunts of Punjab XI may well become reality at the Oval.

If only Punjabis stride out to represent Pakistan in the next Test it will be a shameful moment in the history of Pakistan cricket. The Pakistan team has always been a microcosm of the greater struggle of the Pakistani nation, whose founder's ambitions were to bring together the peoples of the four major provinces of Pakistan. Among the many disasters during the regime of Butt, this suggestion of ethnic prejudice is among the gravest.

Karachi has produced some of the greatest cricketers in the history of Pakistan cricket. Hanif Mohammad, the holder of Pakistan's highest Test score, and Javed Miandad, in my view the best of all Pakistani batsmen, both hail from the heaving, over-populated metropolis that is Pakistan's largest city. Indeed, a neat but inaccurate generalisation suggests that Karachi has produced Pakistan's batsmen while the northern parts have produced the bowlers.

The power struggle between Lahore and Karachi, Punjab and Sind, has been an ever present backdrop to Pakistani life, waxing and waning with political regimes and the passage of time. Now the decision-making of Butt's regime has brought the issue into sharp focus again. He denies any regionalism in the selection process, saying that the selectors have chosen the best players available but here is why he, personally, has a case to answer:

1. The notion of an autonomous selection panel is a myth. Butt has taken too personal an involvement in selection matters, sometimes making decisions without the knowledge of the chairman of selectors. Some of Pakistan's greatest cricketers have begun working with the cricket board and then resigned. Butt's interference has been a deciding factor. Hence the responsibility for the current situation rests with him and his master, the patron of the cricket board.

2. The gross imbalance in the origins of the squad members is a statistic that cannot be ignored. This is not an argument for a quota system, nor is one desirable. But it beggars belief that a province the size of Sind, and with its tradition of cricket, cannot produce more cricketers to represent Pakistan. There are two possible explanations. Either the selection process is biased or the development of cricketers in Sind is being mishandled. In either scenario, Butt and his cricket board are responsible.

3. Some of the omitted Karachi cricketers have arguable cases. One player's case is clear cut. Younis Khan, who the cricket board has admitted has no case to answer, remains unselected. He was available for selection at the start of the tour but wasn't included. Now that the board has decided to recall Mohammad Yousuf - and let us put aside the issue of whether it was right or wrong to change the squad at this point - why is Younis, a Karachi-based player, not offered the same clemency? If anything, Younis had a stronger case for a return considering his recent appearances for Surrey.

The failings of Butt and his PCB regime have become legend. By constantly interfering with selection policy he must take direct responsibility for the failures of selection on this tour, which have left the team pitifully short of viable options. Even the existing options, such as Yasir Hameed, have not been tried. Further, the regional bias in selection, whether through intent or mismanagement, is also his responsibility.

In these circumstance, how can the Pakistani selectors continue in post? Mohsin Khan's reputation is being damaged by the second. A hero of Pakistan cricket is being walked all over. He only need look at the examples of Abdul Qadir and Aamir Sohail to see what the correct course of action is. It takes integrity to step away from a senior position on a point of principle. But integrity is in short supply among those who run Pakistan cricket.

These pages have been calling for Butt's resignation or removal for over a year. This has been the most damaging regime in the history of Pakistan cricket. Butt has run it like a dictator, taking comfort in the strength of his political connections. Meanwhile, the organisation that he runs has disintegrated below him.

The most important outcome of the work of the Pakistan Cricket Board is the performance of the cricketers who represent the aspirations of an embattled nation. The performances speak for themselves. The imbalance in selection means that a team unrepresentative of Pakistan is taking the field. Whatever that team is, however, it deserves our support. But the chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board, the man who engineered this disaster, does not.

Of course, President Zardari has other matters on his mind, such as dodging shoes and convincing his people that he does care about flood victims. He might also consider the irony that his visit to England was less important to Pakistanis than the visit of his country's cricketers. They are the most visible and engaging ambassadors of Pakistan on the international stage.

Just as Pakistan deserves better from its leaders in so many other spheres, cricket is no exception. While President Zardari would never sack himself, he can easily sack Butt. Politicians, administrators, former players, journalists, and fans need to raise their voices in protest. Zaheer Abbas, a Punjabi living in Karachi, said Pakistan cricket is heading for disaster. I'll go one step further - Butt has led Pakistan cricket to calamity and must be removed.

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  • muhammad on June 13, 2011, 18:14 GMT

    shame abbasii shame... my believe that you work on some agenda is getting ever stronger.... you used a overwhelmingly acceptable argument that butt has to be removed concurrent to this regional discremination... this argument to remove butt could have easily been won by you had you just stated the ground realities rather then making up facts to create a corelation

  • salman khan on August 30, 2010, 0:11 GMT

    Ijaz Butt is the real problem of pakistan cricket. its not the province or race. we had 3 4 pashtoon players in the side for so long and there was time when there was no pashtoon player at all. i believe some players are very talented that they cant be ignored at all. Akmal brothers belong to a mediocre family. Umer Gul i know him personally is from a lower middle class or lower class and still in the pakistan side. there were so many karachi based players as well. so it was never the class or province before. Ijaz Butt is the real problem. we have people who never regret doing anything. there is something known as ZAMEER which some people don't have. Ijaz Butt is one of such people who has no ZAMEER at all. he will never say sorry and will never regret. He really ruined the pak cricket. Younis khan (NMW is his background) he is the best test crickter among the others with the batting avg of 50 plus. Same for Fawad Alam who did well recently. time for Ijaz Butt to leave the office.

  • Melbourne Jim on August 29, 2010, 11:40 GMT

    ...That's if there are any honest players! What are the odds of the first ball of the 3rd over, and the last of the 10th being no-balls? About the same as the ump being hit by lightning. Did Amir and Asif pocket all the dirty money? Gosh, that seems unfair to the rest of the team. What do the honest players (if any) think? What do Pakistan fans think? I think life bans for all involved would be a good start...

  • Melbourne Jim on August 24, 2010, 6:46 GMT

    This article helps explain why Pakistan continues to under-achieve, thank you. On merit, I think Pakistan should have beaten Aus 2-0, mainly because of its fantastic bowling attack - probably world's best at the moment, I reckon. Aus's only hope was for Pak's (very good) batsmen to have brain fades (eg slog mindlessly when time/runs were not an issue and stonewalling defence was required). Which is exactly what happened. (Not banning proven cheats for life doesn't help either. What do the honest players think?)

  • fhs on August 23, 2010, 20:15 GMT

    I am a true Karachi was born and raised in Nazimabad area -- which is the nursery of cricket. I am not biased at all. The unfair business has applied to the players all over the country (not just Karachi). Stop think that you are NOT in the team bc you being from from Karache -- I don’t buy it. Sami, Kaneria and Faisal Iqbal - they are shame for Karachi -- proven losers. Khurram Manzoor, Yasir Hameed -- they both are technically incorrect batsman and can NEVER perform. Shoaib Malik is the worst all time esp. in Test cricket - Pakistan team is better off without Malik. Kamran Akmal - must be taken wicket keeping role away. He is the father of awfulness!!! Fawad Alam is talented but I wished to see him playing a winning hand - NEVER! Taufeeq Umer and Asim Kamal -- I believe they have been wasted - both were fighters and committed. Abdul Razaaq - another prime example of injustice! Khalid Latif -- is also good and must be given chance.

  • ARZ on August 23, 2010, 14:31 GMT

    Its a shame that KCA has come up with such an issue. If one of its representative like Arif Abbassi or any other tom, dick and harry is appointed as Chairman PCB, they will never object then. I hare Mr Ijaz Butt too and he must be removed to bring sanctity in the Board but spreading provincialism or regionalism cannot be appreciated. Look at media, all HQ,s of tv channels are in Karachi and no expert from punjab is getting any opportunity to air his comments. Did anyone from Punjab or KPA ever complain? Karachi has always loved to be at loggerheads with Lahore. If no cricketer is coming up from there, its not our fault. I hate cronyism and sure there are instances when weak personalities like one test match cricketer Azhar Khan, Mohammad Ilyas or a weak personality like Iqbal Qasim are appointed as selectors because they r Mr Butt's yesmen. Why can't we appoint javed Miandad, Zaheer Abbass or Abdul Qadir as members because PCB is afraid of their independence

  • Faisal Ahmed on August 21, 2010, 22:02 GMT

    10 players out of 11 are punjabi...coach, bowling coach, fielding coach,manager ALL PUNJABI.....Chairman of PCB is PUNJABI.....half of selectors are punjabi..Pkaitan cricket academy and PCB mainoffice is in PUNJAB...... DON'T DENIE THE FACTS......THIS IS NOT MERIT BASE PAKISTAN'S NATIONAL TEAM ......THIS IS PUNJAB'S TEAM......

  • Faisal Ahmed on August 21, 2010, 21:53 GMT

    10 wickets he took in that match ...and since then he never been given anY stable chance...he would be kicked out on one match failure but all other punjabi players are keep on getting chances after chances..in last year Australia tour he was the one who started Australia demise by taking initial 3 wickets in the Sydney test...then in next innings kamran dropped one catch on his bowling too.....what reward he got for that performance??..poor man was given one more test match and then was kicked out of the team.....and look at kamran...who dropped 5.......5 catches in same test...and continue to drop catches and miss stumps, is still in the team in fact he is VICE CAPTIAN...wowww....what a merit base team What Umer Akmal have done since last year Newzealand tour???....only one hundred and since then constant failure but he is keep on getting chances after chances in last 12 test matches...and poor Fawad who made century on his debut was kicked out after only 3 test matches. GREATTT

  • Faisal Ahmed on August 21, 2010, 21:43 GMT

    What about Asad Shafiq..who made more then 1000 runs in domestic criceket why Amin and Azhar were selected when they made less 500 runs each in same domestic season?? Sarfraz is clearly the best wicket keeper with his domestic record and technique....on what basis Zulqarnan was given preference over him.....and how long this dumb kamran akmal who hold sthe world record of dropping catches and missing stumps on the international level will be sucking pakistan's team's blood? Tanvir Ahmed who took 80 wickets in domestic and wahab was selected to play who too only 14 wickets in domestic...why??...Tanvir is very good swing bowler who could be as successful or even more then Wahab if was given chance in England seaming wickets...why he was not given any chance in entire tour until now??? Yousuf and Younis both are world class players....if Yusuf can come back in the team why not Younis????? M. Sami..genuine fast bowlers who bowled out New Zealand in New Zealand few years back by taking

  • Faisal Ahmed on August 21, 2010, 21:35 GMT

    Fawad Alam...made century in Srilanka last year...168 run on his debut...then what happened..he was given just two more test matches and since then he id out of the team???.....why all dumb punjaabi player mentioned above keep on getting chances even they are getting failed again and again and why this poor player was kicked out after 2 test matches even after he did made debut test century???...remember he is the best fielder in Pakistan side and can be handy left arm spin bowler too khurram manzoor have already made 90 odd in one test match and then on his given chance in last Australia tour he made 77 runs when no other batsman could cross 30 marks.......and in next serious (this England series)...he was dropped....do u drop any punjabi player who would made 77 in last match? On what other basis Umer Amin and Azhar was selceted??..on domestic level their average was less then 30 while Fawad 83 and kHurram 67 domestic average was not good enough???..

  • muhammad on June 13, 2011, 18:14 GMT

    shame abbasii shame... my believe that you work on some agenda is getting ever stronger.... you used a overwhelmingly acceptable argument that butt has to be removed concurrent to this regional discremination... this argument to remove butt could have easily been won by you had you just stated the ground realities rather then making up facts to create a corelation

  • salman khan on August 30, 2010, 0:11 GMT

    Ijaz Butt is the real problem of pakistan cricket. its not the province or race. we had 3 4 pashtoon players in the side for so long and there was time when there was no pashtoon player at all. i believe some players are very talented that they cant be ignored at all. Akmal brothers belong to a mediocre family. Umer Gul i know him personally is from a lower middle class or lower class and still in the pakistan side. there were so many karachi based players as well. so it was never the class or province before. Ijaz Butt is the real problem. we have people who never regret doing anything. there is something known as ZAMEER which some people don't have. Ijaz Butt is one of such people who has no ZAMEER at all. he will never say sorry and will never regret. He really ruined the pak cricket. Younis khan (NMW is his background) he is the best test crickter among the others with the batting avg of 50 plus. Same for Fawad Alam who did well recently. time for Ijaz Butt to leave the office.

  • Melbourne Jim on August 29, 2010, 11:40 GMT

    ...That's if there are any honest players! What are the odds of the first ball of the 3rd over, and the last of the 10th being no-balls? About the same as the ump being hit by lightning. Did Amir and Asif pocket all the dirty money? Gosh, that seems unfair to the rest of the team. What do the honest players (if any) think? What do Pakistan fans think? I think life bans for all involved would be a good start...

  • Melbourne Jim on August 24, 2010, 6:46 GMT

    This article helps explain why Pakistan continues to under-achieve, thank you. On merit, I think Pakistan should have beaten Aus 2-0, mainly because of its fantastic bowling attack - probably world's best at the moment, I reckon. Aus's only hope was for Pak's (very good) batsmen to have brain fades (eg slog mindlessly when time/runs were not an issue and stonewalling defence was required). Which is exactly what happened. (Not banning proven cheats for life doesn't help either. What do the honest players think?)

  • fhs on August 23, 2010, 20:15 GMT

    I am a true Karachi was born and raised in Nazimabad area -- which is the nursery of cricket. I am not biased at all. The unfair business has applied to the players all over the country (not just Karachi). Stop think that you are NOT in the team bc you being from from Karache -- I don’t buy it. Sami, Kaneria and Faisal Iqbal - they are shame for Karachi -- proven losers. Khurram Manzoor, Yasir Hameed -- they both are technically incorrect batsman and can NEVER perform. Shoaib Malik is the worst all time esp. in Test cricket - Pakistan team is better off without Malik. Kamran Akmal - must be taken wicket keeping role away. He is the father of awfulness!!! Fawad Alam is talented but I wished to see him playing a winning hand - NEVER! Taufeeq Umer and Asim Kamal -- I believe they have been wasted - both were fighters and committed. Abdul Razaaq - another prime example of injustice! Khalid Latif -- is also good and must be given chance.

  • ARZ on August 23, 2010, 14:31 GMT

    Its a shame that KCA has come up with such an issue. If one of its representative like Arif Abbassi or any other tom, dick and harry is appointed as Chairman PCB, they will never object then. I hare Mr Ijaz Butt too and he must be removed to bring sanctity in the Board but spreading provincialism or regionalism cannot be appreciated. Look at media, all HQ,s of tv channels are in Karachi and no expert from punjab is getting any opportunity to air his comments. Did anyone from Punjab or KPA ever complain? Karachi has always loved to be at loggerheads with Lahore. If no cricketer is coming up from there, its not our fault. I hate cronyism and sure there are instances when weak personalities like one test match cricketer Azhar Khan, Mohammad Ilyas or a weak personality like Iqbal Qasim are appointed as selectors because they r Mr Butt's yesmen. Why can't we appoint javed Miandad, Zaheer Abbass or Abdul Qadir as members because PCB is afraid of their independence

  • Faisal Ahmed on August 21, 2010, 22:02 GMT

    10 players out of 11 are punjabi...coach, bowling coach, fielding coach,manager ALL PUNJABI.....Chairman of PCB is PUNJABI.....half of selectors are punjabi..Pkaitan cricket academy and PCB mainoffice is in PUNJAB...... DON'T DENIE THE FACTS......THIS IS NOT MERIT BASE PAKISTAN'S NATIONAL TEAM ......THIS IS PUNJAB'S TEAM......

  • Faisal Ahmed on August 21, 2010, 21:53 GMT

    10 wickets he took in that match ...and since then he never been given anY stable chance...he would be kicked out on one match failure but all other punjabi players are keep on getting chances after chances..in last year Australia tour he was the one who started Australia demise by taking initial 3 wickets in the Sydney test...then in next innings kamran dropped one catch on his bowling too.....what reward he got for that performance??..poor man was given one more test match and then was kicked out of the team.....and look at kamran...who dropped 5.......5 catches in same test...and continue to drop catches and miss stumps, is still in the team in fact he is VICE CAPTIAN...wowww....what a merit base team What Umer Akmal have done since last year Newzealand tour???....only one hundred and since then constant failure but he is keep on getting chances after chances in last 12 test matches...and poor Fawad who made century on his debut was kicked out after only 3 test matches. GREATTT

  • Faisal Ahmed on August 21, 2010, 21:43 GMT

    What about Asad Shafiq..who made more then 1000 runs in domestic criceket why Amin and Azhar were selected when they made less 500 runs each in same domestic season?? Sarfraz is clearly the best wicket keeper with his domestic record and technique....on what basis Zulqarnan was given preference over him.....and how long this dumb kamran akmal who hold sthe world record of dropping catches and missing stumps on the international level will be sucking pakistan's team's blood? Tanvir Ahmed who took 80 wickets in domestic and wahab was selected to play who too only 14 wickets in domestic...why??...Tanvir is very good swing bowler who could be as successful or even more then Wahab if was given chance in England seaming wickets...why he was not given any chance in entire tour until now??? Yousuf and Younis both are world class players....if Yusuf can come back in the team why not Younis????? M. Sami..genuine fast bowlers who bowled out New Zealand in New Zealand few years back by taking

  • Faisal Ahmed on August 21, 2010, 21:35 GMT

    Fawad Alam...made century in Srilanka last year...168 run on his debut...then what happened..he was given just two more test matches and since then he id out of the team???.....why all dumb punjaabi player mentioned above keep on getting chances even they are getting failed again and again and why this poor player was kicked out after 2 test matches even after he did made debut test century???...remember he is the best fielder in Pakistan side and can be handy left arm spin bowler too khurram manzoor have already made 90 odd in one test match and then on his given chance in last Australia tour he made 77 runs when no other batsman could cross 30 marks.......and in next serious (this England series)...he was dropped....do u drop any punjabi player who would made 77 in last match? On what other basis Umer Amin and Azhar was selceted??..on domestic level their average was less then 30 while Fawad 83 and kHurram 67 domestic average was not good enough???..

  • Faisal Ahmed on August 21, 2010, 21:27 GMT

    Don't overlook what is reality.....Pakistan barely win the 3rd test..they lost 6 weeks when target was so small...146...they lost 6 regular batsmen...if it would have been 176 like last year Sidney test and if there not been 33 hardcore runs from Yousuf then it could end up same as last year Sidney test. Having said that once again it was Pakistan's bowling who did win the test not really the batting.Getting back to the PUNJAB'S dominance due to dirty politics and giving chances to only punjabi players is still very obvious. Lets take one bu one example again. Umer Amin was given 4 straight test matches....and 8 innings what he did do?...nothing...Azhar ali playing his 5 th straight then finally he did play one good innings Imran Farhat and Malik and kamaran...do even we need to talk about them....why and what basis they are keep on getting chances after chances despite their constant failures???? Now lets look in the facts about what PCB doing with players from other provinces.

  • Hassan Ahmed on August 21, 2010, 17:31 GMT

    There is definitely lots of biased against Karachi players. True, Kaneria and Manzoor dont deserve a chance, but if Yousuf can be brought back out of retirement, why can't Younis, who is actually interested in playing. And Alam, scored a century on debut, so why was he axed?? Biased?? And plz explain why guys like Shoaib Malik and Salman Butt deserve a chance while Khurram Manzoor and Fawad Alam and Mohammed Sami dont??

  • KAS on August 21, 2010, 16:44 GMT

    what a fantastic performance by the Pakistani lads. They have played two 20twenty internationals and won them both by beating Aus. They have played 5 tests against top teams won two and lost three.

    The loosing is entirely due to their pathetic fielding. They have lost 3 but have managed to win 2 giving them the possibility of balancing both series. This is extremely good stuff for such an inexperienced team that have faced problems in past 4 years - They are very good especially the bowling which is cutting edge in terms of international cricket...

    They have a positive mindset and have bounced back when every one had written them off. Yet people here on the blog want to use the last four years of devastating experiences to add an ethnic war dimension and refuse to recognise the hard work and the positve cricket the team has produced over the summer. Pakistanis are their own worst enemies.

  • hamid on August 21, 2010, 0:28 GMT

    To all those calling for sacking of Ijaz Butt, remember another cheif appointed by the same patron will be no different. PCB should be autonomous in electing it's cheif.

  • Yousuf Zaman on August 20, 2010, 22:17 GMT

    Lets conclude, I suggest cricinfo,PCB, interested sponsors , TV channells ,its time to settle the feud and time to prove on field. Let us have a triangular 4day first class and 50 overs one day series between , 1 .Karachi led by Sami in longer and Afridi in shorter version. 2. Led by S Butt 3. Rest of Pakistan Led by Shoaib Akhtar or Shoaib Malik

    Sami and his team may have already proved in Quaid A Azam trophy ,but this will be a new ball game .

    Lets Do it . Bhra ,Bhiya,waja,Lala ,sayeen come and support your team. Support your favorite Cricketers.

    Sponsors Media ,Management please do not forget to donate 50 percent profit to our brothers ,sisters and children ,who have suffered in flood. Selecting Team :We are divided , Helping them: We stand United.

    Lets Do It

  • GopalaKrishna on August 20, 2010, 19:31 GMT

    I'm writing this comments after the thrid day's play of third test match. You saw the results..why again this Lahore/Karachi thing has to be instigated in the middle of waht all Pakistan the country as a whole and cricket in perticular is going along.In my openion and many other people who have commented here already who seem to be pakistanies and well wishers of Pakistan cricket that Younis Khan/Sami all are over rated cricketers.M.Yousuf at least never said he does not want to captain Pakistan and never showed timidity on or off the filed.As in you previous two blogs I commented this Pakistan team needs time and it will prove to be a world beater provided we bestove our faith and continue to back one or two of their failures.If anybody who don't deserve a place in this side I strongly think that is Kamaran Akmal.When Hyder is fit he should be grooved.See how Kamran took all his catches in this third test opesing to all the drops he had in previous tests.Was he deliberate or arrogent

  • POST BLOG DAILY on August 20, 2010, 18:30 GMT

    mr kamran abbasi i request you to post ur blog daily atleast when any series of pak is going on,so that we can comment on everydays happenings

  • Taimur Khan on August 20, 2010, 6:51 GMT

    KCCA & LCCA are shinning examples of the mediocrity, cronyism, nepotism and graft that characterize our national fabric. Having said that, Younis Khan was denied for reasons other than ethnicity and merit. Faysal Iqbal is another Imran Farhat, a cross this country's borne for years because he is related to someone big. Sami's lucky to have played so much cricket, given his consistently poor performances over the years. Wahab is a new boy and Sami is a spent cartidge so no issues. Sarfaraz was a deserving ommission. Both Zulqarnain & Sarfaraz should have made the tour instead of the torture we have endured this summer at Kamran's hands (literally). Alam certainly deserves better than Malik. But Malik and Farhat are in the team for other, non ethnic reasons. such is our nation that had the chairman been an abbassi rather than a butt, the same type of losers would have been selected but this time lahoris would be upset. We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!

  • waterbuffalo on August 20, 2010, 6:37 GMT

    Kamran, what do you think about Yousuf now? in one innings, he has scored more than Salman in 5 innings, do you still want to stick to the youngsters? The English and Aussie commentators love the guy, all you ever do is complain about him. And he is only one of the best batsmen in the world, and probably, the most elegant. And to bring up Karachi vs Lahore at a time when floods are ravaging Pakistan, I just do not understand it.

  • ahmed on August 19, 2010, 22:19 GMT

    Mohammed Yousuf

    Class is Permanent. Form is Temporary.

  • junaid aziz on August 18, 2010, 19:54 GMT

    You are spot on Kamran, the selection drama is the crime apparent, the real travesty is what you briefly mentioned development of cricket in Karachi and other areas. Test match batting is akin to Chess and the thinking faculty of the batsman and inherent courage are pre-requisites. Its no wonder that Javed Miandad was such a feared opponent, simply because his early academy was karachi and its competitive cricket environment, players like Asif Mujtaba, shoaib Mohd, Basit Ali, Rashid latif, Moin Khan, one common element in their approach to the game FIGHTERS, rather SMART FIGHTERS. PCB would never want to develop cricket anywhere else in PAkistan...

  • waterbuffalo on August 18, 2010, 1:36 GMT

    Well the good news is that Shoaib Malik and Umar Amin have been dropped, replaced by Yasir Hameed and Mohd. Yousuf, thank goodness, now let's hope when we win the toss we bowl first, and bat on the second day, I could not believe Salman put Pakistan into bat the last test, he lost the Test all by himself with that decision. Salman Butt is in trouble, 16 runs in 4 innings, av. 4, I will not be surprised if we have a new captain by the next test. I hope Yousuf gets a hundred, show the English what a true batsman looks like. Good Luck Pakistan.

  • Suresh Kumar on August 17, 2010, 13:43 GMT

    I have said this before and I will say it again: get Imran Khan to head Pakistan cricket. He is visionary. He is selfless. He gets the best out of his teams. And he is known for spotting talent. Remember how he 'spotted' Akram, Waqar and Inzi and fast tracked them into the Pak national team? What a colossal waste that he is not part of the Pak Cricket Administration! Suresh Kumar, Indian, fan of Kapil Dev but also a fan of the great Imran.

  • Shahzad on August 17, 2010, 10:39 GMT

    In order to make us all happy; Quota system in Pak team should be introduced as follows: Punjab: 4 (2 rural, 2 urban) Sindh: 3 (2 rural, 1 urban) KPK: 2 (1 rural, 1 urban) Baluchistan: 2 (1 rural, 1 urban)

    Once above quota system is introduced then we will start discussing; for example in Punjab, how many players from saraiki belt how many from potohaar and so on... Shame on us.

  • Yassar on August 17, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    Pakistan cricket should not just be about Karachi and Punjab. There are other provinces and cities that make up Pakistan as well and no doubt the passion and talent is just as great in those areas as it is in Karachi and Lahore (punjab). If we want a competitive Pakistan then we must have a competitive domestic structure and focus on the grass-roots and club scene on all of Pakistan and not just one or two cities. The reason Karachi and Punjab seem to provide the majority of cricketers to the national team is because the cricketing infrastructure in other areas is so poor and no focus has been given to these other areas. I have no doubt the talent in other areas of Pakistan is just as great but this gets lost because of the lack of cricketing infrastructure. The PCB has to focus on this and do something about it otherwise this Karachi / Punjab bias will continue. Make use of your resources for heavens sake!!

  • indranil chatterjee on August 17, 2010, 7:20 GMT

    Finally, I should say this. Apart from Punjab and the city of karachi, why palyers do not come at all? THis is where Balochistan and other parts should be screened and tanzaam buland hona chahiyee. NO use saying these parts never can produce cricketers. See where from Ameer came. Or the under 19 cricket captain (forgot his name). 20 years earlier, Aqib Javed came from less known areas. I think with development and love for the game, pool of talents ought to widen and this is where the PCB also should review whether some other initiatives can be undertaken.

  • Indranil chatterjee on August 17, 2010, 7:14 GMT

    Following on .....THese players (Rezzak and Akmal sr.) had brought the fighting qualities with rich abundance of talents that had been the haulmark of the Pakistani team under great Imran Khan and Pakistan cricket needs such die-hard fighters. They should be treated carefully under an ever helping coach and their talents are to be nurtured in such fashion that they do not get a cause to lose focus to some other things. With the kind of pace attack of Gul, Ameer and Asif (backed up by the likes of Anzum or Tanveer) only one best spinner should play and Ajmal is present form should be the one to play. bahut aitraam aur kadrdari se tehjib ka diya jalate aayeN hai Pakistan is cricket ki duniyaa meiN, achche se use parvareesh karna.

  • indranil chatterjee on August 17, 2010, 7:06 GMT

    From other side of the border but following pakistani cricket with a heart, I felt in the context of the nation with great love and admiration for cricket in the backdrop of geopolitical mess, the accusation of provincialism could have been done without. It only makes an interesting article but provide no substance for moving forward. Selection for english conditions can provide good opportunities to young talents to improve. However selection could have been better and should not lose the investments made in younger talents who already showed promise of performances. Case of Fawad Alam in Sri LAnka or Sarafraz Ahmed is a pointer. Younis Khan is a close call. Even if he is currently dropped, he should be thought of in the long term. Also handling certain players carefully could have helped. I am talking about the way Abdur Rezzak was cast into underperformance (though not a selection case now for test cricket) or Kamran Akmal who has been having a lots of issues of late.

  • taim on August 17, 2010, 6:49 GMT

    partially agree with Kamran on overall mismanagement of PCB affairs, however, still feels that you have been bit unfair to Punjab, because, Younis apart all the rest so called talented pool comprising Sami, Faisal Iqbal etc does not deserve a place in Pak 11, also look who is selecting the team first hand, its your son of soil. I also feel this type of articles will cause more harm than any good to improve the trust deficit among the people.

  • Dawood - Dallas, Texas. on August 17, 2010, 6:30 GMT

    Why are we talking about who is from where? Selection of the team should be merely on merit basis, period. If that was the case, this issue wouldn't even had risen. Talking about Ijaz Butt's credibility, he inherits all the attributes, to his job, from his boss. And we all know who he reports to.

  • Indus Knight on August 17, 2010, 5:32 GMT

    Of course, Zardari, though he has no business in Pakistan matters except when looting the country, would rather prefer Punjabi's in the side than Karachiites who are usually not SIndhi players. He still holds a grudge against his old rival MQM. Thougth I don't support MQM but I hate the fact that Z is using his grudge to spoil careers of good players.

  • Lahore Badsha on August 17, 2010, 5:29 GMT

    I don't always agree with Mr.Abassi, but here I really do.

    Let me get one thing out of the way... I am from Lahore.

    Having said that, the exclusion of Fawad Alam (scored a BIG century against Sri Lanka), Khurram Manzoor (score 90 odd and 70 odd against Australia), and of course Mohommad Sami after his last performance, is absolutely inexplicable.

    Please explain how guys like Umar Amin and Azhar Ali deserve a chance more than the likes of Fawad Alam and Khurram Manzoor.

  • TOpath on August 17, 2010, 2:02 GMT

    Objective assessment made here. Pakistan team has been victimized by tribal like inclusion and exclusion practices. Not only the batsmen from #1 thru #6 lack technique and track record it has been very concerning that the coach, captain and leadership has outright rejected the value of phasing in new blood and phasing out tried, tested and world class batsmen like Younis and Yousaf over a period of time. This has been an all-time weakest Pakistan batting line-up landing in England, and despite humiliating batting performance the PCB, the coach who has no understanding of developing and coaching batsmen, and chief selector are being defensive on sending blatantly and purposely a weak batting team. If the following players do not perform: S. Butt, S. Malik, U. Amin, A. Ali, and U. Akmal they should be discarded. Furthermore, Pakistan needs to seriously consider bringing A. Razzaq back into batting line-up at #7 since he can bat and swing the bowl. PCB: REPLACE TRIBALISM WITH MERITOCRACY.

  • Kricket Fan on August 17, 2010, 0:52 GMT

    i don't think we need to throw in the 'regional bias' in the mix of foul smelling dish our current PCB is. why because it will take a new turn and be more damaging to our already on last few breath of a team. i fully agree that team should be picked based on talent and merit alone. even if it means 11 players are from karachi or from punjab or blochistan, where ever from pak. the goal should be to have a best 11. in Aust most of their players are either from NSW or Victoria. but no one argues if there is a state bias in selection because all players selected show their worth in the team. now for karachi players, younis khan has made pak team a yo yo. plays with it when he likes, throws it away when he gets bored. lets move on from him for good! sami, well his record speaks for itself. yasir hameed has been tried before. but i rather see him in place of farhat who is waste. faisal iqbal, well he complains not much opportunity given. best players make the most of whats given to them.

  • Fasiha on August 16, 2010, 21:51 GMT

    Kamran, I never even imagined such piece of yellow journalism from u. I mean, I know you hate Butt, so do I, but u're taking it too far, that too along the wrong way. Did you ever try to break down the English team? Did you notice there are 2 South Africans and 1 Irish currently playing in their Squad while quite number of Pakistanis and Indians have also represented them in past. Do you ever see them whining over this?

    In sports, its about picking the talent not areas. All of us should get over the quota theory & all those who're taunting the "Punjab XI", where were you when a Pathan who represents Karachi was made captain? He surrendered after losing one match.

    Oh and do you know who's Patron of PCB? The President of Pakistan. He's from Sindh. Mohsin Khan? Sindh. Wasim Bari? Sindh. These are top PCB officials, if they can't do anything y don't they resign in protest? Its not about Provincialism but Favoritism. Otherwise Asim Kamal would have played more matches than Faisal Iqbal.

  • Nadeem Ahmad on August 16, 2010, 21:09 GMT

    The captain of a cricket team has lot of say in choosing a squad or final eleven. Afridi was the the captain when Pakistani touring team was announced. He is karachi based .He was the captain . He obviously brought the best players with him. It's nothing to with Punjab.After playing first class Cricket representing Pakistan Universities as an opening batsman, I can positively say that the pitches for the first two Test matches were substandard. There was no way they could have lasted five days ,where the ball was moving of the pitch half a yard either way.I don't think that Asim Kamal, Faisal Iqbal or Fawad Alam have played any better.

  • Faisal Ahmed on August 16, 2010, 20:47 GMT

    Some of punjab's team's supporters are writting here that this current team is on merit and karachi's players don't have talent so they don't deserve to be in the National side....wowww........these people are closing their eyes bcoz they don't want to look into the facts. Fawad, Khurram, Asim, Sarfraz, Sami, Asad Shafiq.......all these are dumb players?....they have not shown any talent on domestic or international level ever??? But GREAT PLAYERS like Umer Akmal(a constant failure in test matches), Kamran Akmal (WORL RECORD HOLDER OF DROPPING CATCHES AND MISSING STUMPS ON INTERNATIONL LEVEL ...his name should be in Ginnis book of world record), Farhat, Umer Amin, Azhar, Malik All constant failures but still getting chances after chances. So punjab's players despites their bad record and constant failures need more and more chances and players from other provinces are kicked out after one failure......IS THAT U CALL MERIT? PUNJAN ELEVEN WILL LOOS ALL MATCHES IN ENGLAND....watch it.

  • Shiraz on August 16, 2010, 20:35 GMT

    i agree with this article....the PCB (Punjab Cricket Team) needs to take in talent from Karachi, Interior Sindh, and Balochistan. Fawad Alam, scored 168 on sri lanka maiden ton, danish kaneria is one of the best spinners the axed him based on 1 performance, look at salman butt they never axe him. I think Asif, aamer should be in the team always, bring sarfaz ahmed got a gud average in first class, asad shafiq (most runs in quaid-e-azam trophy) sack ijaz butt as PCB chairman, sohail khan (give him a chance) look how PCB dumps karachi talent like asim kamal (99 on debut) and he has 91 vs india in mohali, faisal iqbal (139 vs india and 58* vs england at the oval) and finally younis khan (from NWFP) who got 313* vs sri lanka in karachi, 267 vs india in bangalore, 199 vs india, etc..

  • mran on August 16, 2010, 19:13 GMT

    Definitely there were some nagative means behind for ignoring very talented karachi guy..like Asim kamal who hav very good tamparament but we wasted him. hav very good record again SA and India.he did not perform in one match ..he throw out of box.fawad who made century on debu..did not select..Danish who got more than 250 wickets best leg spinner pak ever produced..rejected him even he did not perform only one match in most case KAMRAN droped catch... Asad shafiq top scorer in local competition..why he did not select..CAN ANY GIVE ANSWER OF MY QUESTION...

  • Sohaib Rashid on August 16, 2010, 18:41 GMT

    Kaneria has been out of sorts in Test Cricket for the last few years now and so was rightly dropped, although it didn't help at all that he had to contend with Kamran Akmal as the keeper whose keeping skills as we all by know, the less said the better. Kamran Akmal, who should have been dropped by now (his case is overdue for as long as 3 to 4 years now !), is still in the squad for some odd reason though! Probably for the same reasons Shoaib Malik (the most glaring example), Imran Farhat (the most appalling example) are in the team! Meanwhile Yasir Hameed is kept for warming benches and even Mohammad Hafeez is allowed to drift in wilderness!

    P.S: The PCB has to decide once and for all whether they will call the 2Y's again or not ! If Yes then put them in the middle order pronto and no nonsense of calling only one of them, it won't help at all ! If No then Please for Heaven's sake select young players on merit, who have actually done well in the domestic setup simple logic really !

  • iqbal sayed on August 16, 2010, 18:28 GMT

    Just to correct you Mr Naqvi,Hanif Mohammed was the first ever from Pakistan to score a triple century in test cricket,and he was the only one to score it away from home. He scored it against the best pace and spin bowling attack of the time.He was the best opening batsman Pakistan ever produced and one of the most solid defensive batsman in world cricket.He still to date remains the record holder for the longest innings in Test cricket. He is the only other batsman besides Brian Lara in first class cricket to have scored 499 runs in a single innings.

  • kamran khan on August 16, 2010, 18:28 GMT

    shoaib malik is in the team bcz he is a friend of gilani's son.Ijaz But is a brother in law of defence minister malik mukhtar..umar amin and azhar ali are son's of a good friend of Ijaz but.where as fawad alam came from a low middle class karachi family purly on merit,khuram mansoor is similar case..they don't like khurram mansoor bcz of his stance.there is a big money in cricket now,test match they earn 4.5 lakh rupees,one day international 2 lakh and T-20 1 lakh per match.Definetly they going to kill the merit and bring their own people in.. as top management is not on merit itself.Typical selfish punjab.

  • Sohaib Rashid on August 16, 2010, 18:26 GMT

    I think the conclusion should be that players should be selected just on pure merit and nothing else, player's who have got the talent and have the temperament to go with it! Backed by solid domestic competition performances! Then it shouldn't matter whether the ultimate national team selected is Punjab XI, Sindh XI, Lahore XI, Peshawar XI, Karachi XI, Balochistan XI etc And this the responsibility of primarily the selectors and finally the administration, given that at the moment Pakistan Cricket is run by such luminaries as Ijaz Butt and Yawar Saeed the prospect of something happening along theses lines look very bleak !

    I think the current glaring problem is that selection is not on merit and quite a few Karachi players are unjustly ignored no matter people in dissent have to say ! Please for heaven's sake select young players on merit, who have actually done well in the domestic setup simple logic really !

  • omer qasim on August 16, 2010, 17:23 GMT

    well the irony of the matter is that even the conversations between the players in the midfield when heard over the microphone always came out in punjabi as our players don't know how to speak their national language.This article must open our eyes as if we are not a nation but a group of individuals who are working for their own interests.Pathetic Isn't it?I personally beleive that there should be a quota for all provinces in our national team according to their population and should never be compromised.This would definatly eliminate the grouping from the team and provinces will increase their efforts to promote the game in their areas aswell.

  • Rehan on August 16, 2010, 17:18 GMT

    Guys - Please be rational. In these testing times we dont need any more controversies. Pakistani cricket is just a reflection of our whole degrading social setup. Team selection process does not make sense for sure but it is more to corrupt/favoritism administration than the regional bias. I believe for a test squad Imran Farhat, Wahab Riaz, Kamran Akmal (with his record of dropped catches), and Danish Kaneria make any sense. Asim Kamal, Fawad Alam and Yasir Hameed are definetly better than some of the selected clowns. Sami, Faisal Iqbal had their chances and their records shows how good they are. BTW I am from PAKISTAN.

  • Irfan (USA) on August 16, 2010, 15:54 GMT

    Reading the comments here, one thing is for sure, be it Punjabi or Sindhi or Balochi or Pathan, everyone wants Ijaz Butt removed. Ijaz Butt and his board members like Yawar Saeed are incompetent to say the least.

    Having said that, bringing this "ethnicity" issue is quite disturbing. I never expected anything like this from Kamran abbasi. Osman Samiudin has written a very balanced article on this topic. Please clear your mind, this is not an "ethnicity issue", its the corruption of the board. Why do you say that if all 11 players are from Punjab, it would be a shame?? What if they are deserving? I am a punjabi, and if all eleven (deserving) players are from KHI, I would not mind one bit. WHY bring this ethnicity issue here Kamran Abbasi? Why at a time when nation is going through such difficult times. -A DISGUSTED FAN

  • A.Ali on August 16, 2010, 13:40 GMT

    Punjab XI will loose the remaining two tests, and Yousuf will score runs and yet disgrace himself by getting runout. Good Luck Punjab XI.

  • Shamaz Majid on August 16, 2010, 13:30 GMT

    For once, your article is completely off the mark and to even suggest a bias when there are much bigger issues affecting Pakistan cricket (and indeed Pakistan) is completely wrong and counter-productive. Whatever the reason, the current crop of Karachi players is sub-standard; Kamran Akmal is a typical example. The reality is that the best players are currently coming from elsewhere, and ultimately it is the best players who should be picked. Are you by any chance "Karachi-based!?

  • iqbal on August 16, 2010, 12:42 GMT

    i think younis khan is a great cricketer and he deserve better than this treatment. he needs to be in the team and playing cricket.ijaz butt has destroyed pakistan cricket and he needs to go.he is too pold for this job.he dosent have any idea of how to run cricket board.players like imran nazir and y khan should be in the side.but who is going to take action imagine zardari.??????????????/

  • Vishwajit on August 16, 2010, 9:48 GMT

    Just like, Pakistan fans haven't figured out yet- why Shoaib Malik is still in the Test team, millions of Indians still don't know and will never know why Ravindra Jadeja is in the IDI team!

  • Javed on August 16, 2010, 9:28 GMT

    Nice to read this article on the eve of 14th August when pakistan is going through the toughest of time from Gilgit to Sindh. I was always a fan of your writing but your timing was not right; you might have achieved whatever you wanted to but you have surely created more mess.

  • Masroor Ahmed on August 16, 2010, 7:53 GMT

    Dr MA Shah is the right person for PCB Chairman. Very good article Kamran A. Even the new inclusion of team massager also from Lahore. Shame on Ijaz But, Yawar Saeed bull**** pair . PCB headquarter must be shifted back to Karachi. When Miandad was named captain the Lahoris started to shout 25 years ago that "aay karachi dee team khed rahi hay". If Karachites demanding for genuine inclusion of player it is called regional card? Shame on all those guys they condemn the article. Good job Kamran Abbasi keep it up.

  • amjad on August 16, 2010, 7:10 GMT

    GO IJaz Butt go go

  • Aina on August 16, 2010, 7:00 GMT

    1) Ijaz Butt should be sacked 2) Shoaib Malik should be dropped forever 3) Zulqarnain's injury shows how lucky the Akmal brothers are 4) The actual "young batsmen" Azhar Ali and Umar Amin can stay 5) Younis Khan captain and Salman Butt vice till the former's retirement was ideal. 6) Dream on....

    NONE OF THIS should have anything to do with Karachi and Lahore for heaven's sake!!! This article is the epitome of irresponsible and destructive journalism in my opinion. Miandad and Inzamam were equal heroes for me, and so it should be for everyone else.

  • Mohsin Ali on August 16, 2010, 6:17 GMT

    @Karachiwala Mr. your statistics are wrong. go n search yourself how much talent is there. one example is of Ali Gohar who played alongside Waqar Younis, Ali was better than Waqar but never selected for national team.

  • A Pakistani on August 16, 2010, 5:57 GMT

    A clearly skewed article with the objective of starting a new controversy.I do wish our writers would grow up.Only Yunas is a fit case for selection.The technique of others is deficient and England is no place to spread your legs and hit the ball and who thinks anyone can overrule Afridi.It is he who is responsible.Case closed.

  • enam shah on August 16, 2010, 4:33 GMT

    well, i think while selecting a national one should focus on merit.This is a national team not a national assembly where we distribute seats among provinces.we should give a chane to those who are in form.But i do not understand the way yonus khan is overlooked and the presence of shoaib malik in the team despite failing to score again and again.About ijaz butt i don't have words to comment,the greatest disaster of pakistan cricket.He is not having even an iota of sincerity with cricket or the emotions of the nation and unfortunately there is no body to check him

  • Nauman Malik on August 16, 2010, 3:12 GMT

    Anyone would speak about representation from Balochistan? Des Sindh only consist of Karachi? What a crap article written with one many eyes covered. You are talking for inclusion of Sami, really? Does he deserve a place when Amir, Asif, Gul (from Khyber-Pakhtunkhuwa) and Saeed Ajmal are in the team? Afridi was made the captain of the team (A pathan who usually represents karachi). Yasir Hameed is in the team who is from Khyber Pakhtunkhuwa. The only desrrving karachi player out (for tests only) is Fawad Alam. I hate Butt and want him to step down immediately, but this article is only about allegations and accusations rather than being true.

  • Adnan on August 16, 2010, 2:20 GMT

    Dear Kamran , i am disturbed by the document i have just read... this article of yours really cries out to stage on the title as 'A RACIST POEM'.. C'mon man we are already in a turmoil and u ppl are making it worse. All of us are very aware of what's happening in PCB's so called selection but lets just not point out it in this way.. its really awkward to mention Punjabis and Karachians.. If u ppl(KCCA & Kamran Abbasi) have come up with the idea to bring the Old Clown down then go for it..but plz if its all about Hate Compaign of being not selected in National team as being a Karachian then for God sake dont do it... take the rollers out but carefully so as not to disturb the curls too much

  • Faisal Ahmed on August 16, 2010, 1:58 GMT

    CONTINUE............Sami was captain of Karachi team who won Qaud e Azam trophy 2010....and his domestic performance is much better then Wahab Riaz. ....Asim Kamal...Poor player performed very well in few test matches when given chance few years back and have made several Fifties...and then he was kicked out and never was considered again.....why????????????? One the other side players like Malik and Farhat are keep on getting cgances after chances even their constant failures in test matches......why???? Sarfraz Ahmed clearly the best wicket keeper in domestic season 2009 and 2010 was kicked out after only one chance in last test match in Australia and Kamran Akmal who have this HABIT OF DROPPING CATCHES nad MISSING STAMPS IN EVERY MATCH been playing since last 8 years or so....why????? Malik, Kamran, Salman are 3 players who brought grouping in the pakistani side...and even their constant failures they r in the side....why????? Any fan of PUNJAB'S TEAM would like to answer all these?

  • Faisal Ahmed on August 16, 2010, 1:51 GMT

    CONTINUE.... Umer Amin and Azhar Ali were selected on the basis of domestic performance of an average below 30......and on top of that given 4 test matvhes straight even with their constant failures in 8 innings...and still they are talking about ''these youngeester need more chances ''....wowwwww.....Youngsters like Fawad and Khurram even after proved theirsleves on international and domestic levels don't deserve any any chance???????????????????? M. Sami.....poor fast bowler who bowels 90 miles per hour always been underrated and always been ignored bcoz he don't belongs to Punjab...he never been given constant chance of 3 to 4 test matches and after one match he will be kicked out. Most recent example is in Australia ..every one remember he was the one when given chance in Sidney test matches took initial 3 wickets very quickly which did lead to Australia demise in first innings and who can forget kAMRAN dropping 4 catches of Kaneria and one catch of Sami's bowling in 2nd innings.

  • Faisal Ahmed on August 16, 2010, 1:42 GMT

    YOU CAN'T DENIES THE FACT............people who r saying that we should not talk about racism and on regional basis, why they don't look into facts.It is not any thing overlooked or it is no coincidence that so many players from Karachi in last few years have been victim of PUNJAB'S taking over the Pakistan's national team.Again and again examples r same 1...Fawad Alam....A century maker on his test debut in Sri Lanka..he was dropped after giving only one in chance he first test against New Zealand. And since then he is out of the team the. His domestic performance in 2010?? 83 plus average.He don't deserve any chance?. 2...Khurram Manzoor....77 runs on his last cahnce given in Australia when no other batsman could score 30 runs...domestic performance?...67 average...he don't deserve any chance? With that Umer Akmal after making one century in NewZealnd is glued with the team despite his constant failures specially in Test matches. Umer Amin and Azhar Ali were selected on the basis of

  • Noman on August 16, 2010, 0:47 GMT

    I agree with Kamran today for the first time in a long time. I also agree that the article is at a bad time when our country needs to be united,rather than being divided. Although there has to be a sense of disappointment when players like Malik keep getting picked despite the awful performances. I believe we need a movement like the lawyers to get rid of kaka butt. I can not see another way, heck we know that in our country once the kursi is stuck to the Butt, it is hard to remove except through very drastic measures. On a more serious note, let us pray in this blessed month for our beloved people of Pakistan who are suffering tremendously in these very trying times. C'mon my paindu brothers and my khan sahab and my sain and my Baluch oh and lets not forget the Bhia's, lets just bury this debate for now and raise our hands for prayer and empty our pockets to help our suffering people. Thank You

  • Adil on August 16, 2010, 0:17 GMT

    Cant agree more........... it is a shame that PCB (Punjab Cricket Board) is running cricket for rest of the country as well, and failing to do so.

    There is no absolute guarantee for any player unless he performs, but when you see who is getting selected and who is not, you start questioning what is the criteria behind it as better performers are being ignored and Punjabi speaking are being selected. Khalid Latif after making 50 against Australia in hi slat match is dropped while Shoaib Malik after dividing team into pieces is selected. Kamran Akmal after causing defeat from the hands of victory is selected while Sarfraz Ahmed is dropped. Kaneria is dropped for not performing but Akmal brothers are kept. Fawwad Alam is dropped with out giving a proper chance but Wahab Riaz is selected.

    And who are selected have one thing in common, they all speak Punjabi. You can play cricket or you can peak Punjabi, selection committee's vote is for those who can speak Punjabi, who care about cricket

  • Yousuf Zaman on August 15, 2010, 23:52 GMT

    Right Mr Cricket Fan. Kamran should be cut from roster and not Danish. as He dropped 2 catches and made mess of 1 stumping chance on Kaneria Bowling. Even in Australia He dropped about a dozen catches on Kaneria bowling.

    Some one said Sarfraz does not deserve as he is not as good batsman as Kamran or Haider , Mr Some one if You give 2 batting turns to players like Ponting,Hussey .KP or Morgan then ave 17 .00 batting outside Sub Cont does not matter. Who is going to blame Kamran catch dropping practice for loosing many matches. Bring the best, Sarfraz never missed a chance. Bring the best Asad Shafiq is the best in new talent. Bring the best Sami is the fastest bowler in the world. Bring the best YK is an icon not an orinary player.

  • Pindiwal on August 15, 2010, 23:33 GMT

    Plesae do not call it a Punjab-11,Do not blame us. It is Shoes and cigarette makers Eleven. Some one wrote about famous Son in law, This is the team of infamous Brother in Law.

    We realize if the the protest is for Sindh/Karachi players which includes YK a Pathan , Protest voiced by Great Zaheer Abbasi a Punjabi Karachiwala,then this protest has weight.

    Please do not forget Rawalpindi express has rewarded Tandulker bat to Asad Shafiq and not to Umar Amin. V at pindi have felt the pain of Nazir jr ,probably one of the best off spinner country has produced, even the great west indian team was uncomfortable facing him. Then V can feel the "Sami Case" Who in his last test appearance brought Pakistan to the verge of victory against Australia in Australia. Nazir Jr was dropped after taking 8-116 at ave 14.40 against mighty west indian side. Sami is dropped after a remarkable Sydney perfomance. It is Shame...

  • Rashid on August 15, 2010, 23:10 GMT

    Usman from Punjab, people like you holding things together.Too much praise for an average Joe, but these are the very characteristic Muslim world needs.Butt really does not know cricket, he should be promoted to house ........of someone.

  • Pindiwal on August 15, 2010, 21:46 GMT

    Some one asked about cricket/cricketers from Baluchistan. then read it. Qasim Omar won three international and five domestic Man of the Match awards. In 1985-86 he became the first player to ring the bell on corruption in international cricket. He even named some of the great players who were suspected of being involved. Though the cricket administrators took no notice of his disclosures, his revealtions marked the end of a brilliant cricket career.

    With 2 double centuries,many wonderful performances specially out side Sub Continent . Mr Abbasi Can You please name "The Greats" accused by Qasim. also read some one from pindi Offspinner Mohammad Nazir took his best figures - 7 for 99 - on debut against New Zealand at Karachi in 1969-70.was recalled in 1979-80 when he took 16 wickets in four Tests against West Indies, including 8 for 120.discarded again.

  • H Syed on August 15, 2010, 20:14 GMT

    Ijaz Butt is eating away at Pak Cricket, he needs to be removed ASAP. Even though Miandad never stays quite, and tries to slip in his nephews name with a few others, the fact is that there are 2 Karachi players who definately deserve a few chances. Fawad Alam and Khurram Manzoor. Fawad Alam was mishanlded by Malik and Khurram Manzoor had 7 tests, and his avg is ok.Sarfraz cannot bat at all, Faisal Iqbal(27 avg. after 29 tests),Asim Kamal is 34 YEARS OLD FOR GOD'S SAKE. Im from Lahore, but i ever cared about the origin of a player, true Pakistani cricket supporters never would, Younis Khan is the 2nd best batsmen in Pak,right behind Yousuf and rightly deserves a place in the starting 11.Its not abt origin, we have to field our 11 best men even if they are all from khi(and this current Lahori leeches are not our best!). Ethnic based politician politicians who thrive on hate, like Zardari, probably want this to happen,i wouldnt be surprised if he is enjoying it,if you catch my drift!

  • Jonathan Ellis on August 15, 2010, 19:57 GMT

    I would love to see a Pakistan team picked entirely on merit. No matter who is captain, that team would include Younis Khan as a batsman.

    Also, regardless of who is captain, that team would NOT include Shoaib Malik, who has not played well enough to be worth a place in the team (and never has been, therefore should never have been captain.) I would also say that, similarly, Shahid Afridi was not worth his place in the Test team as a player, therefore should not have been made captain.

    Also: Any player who has deliberately underperformed, should be dropped, and banned for life. No matter WHAT the reason.

    Kaneria was dropped for one reason alone - poor form. Ajmal bowled better, and you only need one spinner in England when the other three bowlers are Aamir, Asif and Gul (no doubts regarding their selection.)

    As an Englishman, I want to play against the BEST of Pakistan. And a team without Younis Khan, and with deliberate underperformers, is not "the BEST".

  • cricket_fan on August 15, 2010, 19:56 GMT

    I agree with the fact that there is provincialism. If we compare records, Fawad as an average of above 40 in 3 tests matches yet out. Younus is far better than some of the trash we have in the team. For those not sure about Yousuf's inclusion should be quiet now after his 40 in the wo day. Kaneria of course did not bowl to expectations but nobody mentioned damn poor wicket keeping and catch drops on his bowling. Nobody every mentions crappy filthy field coaching. Kamran has never been able to read his spin properly in the past and had dropped lots of catches on his bowling, check the records. However, after Zulqarnain's injury he is back again. If selection is based on marit then those two including the biggest mess maker Shoaib should all be out. Although I still believe Shoaib is a good player he needs to focus on cricket and not in politics. Talking about merit, can somebody justify Butt's selection as a captain. Selection has to be on merit even if all 11 from one place.

  • khalil on August 15, 2010, 19:05 GMT

    people may interpret this article in a different way but it is a fact that discrimination & nepotism is prevalent in the present cricket set up. KCCA has rightly highlighted the issue. The way in which players from Karachi & KP are dealtwith is self explanatory. Fawad Alam , YK & Yasser Hamid are clear cut examples. Imran tried to bring players from KP because he knew that discrimination is being excercised in selection matters. I would ask Mohsin Khan,1 question Why he has become a puppet in the hands of BUTT ? .PCB is trying to keep YK out of team for no reason.It has called Yousaf from retirement & revoked ban of Malik,even when he is not of the calibre of YK. Malik is not that big a player to be so essential for our team.If Riffat ullah Momand tried to play for Afghanistan,he was right in his decision. Accountability is the order of the day otherwise examples of WI & Zim are in front of us.

  • Asghar Husain on August 15, 2010, 18:11 GMT

    Kamran

    I think everyone agrees that Ejaz Butt is a buffoon and needs to go. Raising the ethnicity card is not on. I am a Karachiete through and through, and though there are cases for including Yasir Hamid Fawad Alam, Mohammed Sami, Safraz Ahmed in the squad, their cases are not compelling i.e. we may have POSSIBLY lost by a shorter margin, but would not have won.

    Younis Khan's exclusion is a different matter - it is astounding that a player of his class is not included.

    I 100% agree that Ejaz Butt needs to go - but your article has left a bad taste in my mouth - despite being from Karachi.

    Asghar

  • Imran on August 15, 2010, 17:58 GMT

    First of all this is the last thing we need I congratulate you Mr. Kamran on creating more drifts among the people of Pakistan. Did you hear about the killings of 16 punjabis in Baluchistan on 14th august on same ethical issue you raised here? Do you want punjabis to get killed in Karachi as well?

    The problem is with Ijaz Butt, and the person still keeping him as chairman PCB is Asif Zardari, a sindhi himself.

    Now write your next column on Sindhis plan to exclude Karachi players

  • Ajnabi Khan on August 15, 2010, 17:45 GMT

    I totally agree with you that Butt the Chairman should be fired; it is high time for that action. If Butt had any integrity he would have handed his own resignation, given the team’s performance during his reign. As well, it is hard to believe that Sind or any other province cannot produce top notch cricketers. As you point out some of Pakistan’s greatest cricketers came from non-Punjab provinces. At the same time, I must say that the Urdu speaking people (primarily UP migrants from Karachi) have lost their credibility since they always seem to speak in a biased manner against Sindhis, Punjabis, and Northern provinces; it always sounds self-serving. In this instance though, it is necessary for everyone to raise their voice; but, it is sickening to hear when the comments sound nothing but anti-Punjabi (talk about being racists!!). Can we not just make a case for specific players, keeping in mind that it is incidental as to where they come from? Merit should be the only criteria. The challenge is to develop a strategy and criteria that allow future selections that follow specific criteria. There needs to be openness in what are the selection criteria. As well, you need a process to modify the criteria instead of just focusing on why a certain player is selected. Unless this culture of openness is established, selection of a good professional team will just remain a pipe dream.

  • Sheikh on August 15, 2010, 17:32 GMT

    I would like to say .. that it is not the best time to discuss .Pakistan is already going thru so much and instead of helping our flood victims we sud not be waisting time.. One strong statment for my Karachi brothers who think there is discrimination in the Pakistan eleven.. Be Pakistan.. cuz Karachi is another city of Pakistan when we represent our cities we forget that there are 3 more hundereds cities .. Mr Butt both the captain and the chairman doesnt deserve the post they are on Humble pakistani from Karachi!

  • Saleem Khwaja on August 15, 2010, 16:01 GMT

    I commented almost 6 months ago that PCB must be reorganized and its chairman removed. I am aghast to know that even in cricket provincialism (if that is what it is) has surfaced! If true this is unbelievable. PCB is incompetent and reflects the government of the day - incompetent, its members full of self importance, the president– as corrupt and incompetent as is the PM – unable to voice a coherent opinion during national disaster. That is what the cricket has become too. I have never batsmen who cannot play a ball! In fact the current cricket team is a team of 4 - all of them bowlers. A shameful scenario. The English cricket is vastly improved but not unbeatable by any account.

  • Ranjha on August 15, 2010, 15:23 GMT

    Reading this debate I Checked the records I just realize that Mohammad Sami actualy won first class trophy for Karachi. He made the difference in Sydney ,Bowled Newzeland out in 25 continues overs of real fast bowling.He is realy unpalyable when going good.

    Put the Laxman out with a super fast bouncer.

    I just realize that Asad Shafiq is the best batsman in domestic season and Sarfaz is the best keeper in country.

    I hope it is not bias butt definitely it is incompetency to waste and overlook such a wonderful treasure.

  • Irfan on August 15, 2010, 15:14 GMT

    I would like to put my weight with Kamran on this one. I don't see eye to eye with him most of the time however I must say that he is spot on in this piece. When the reality as conspicuous as this is brought to the fore there is bound to be resentment. Obviously punjabis wont like it. Unfortunately it is so brazen and in the face that in arguing against it they are making the case for Karachi cricketers. Lahori talent look at the performance compare records. Talk like "YK is overrated, waterbuffalo" "There is no talent in Karachi" "if no karachi player is good enough...why should they be selected" and so on. It's common knowledge that selectors are a rubber stamp and team is selected by "Butts" and it is obvious that he is biased against Karachi players being a Lahori. Truths as bitter as this may be hard to swallow for Punjabis but sadly it is the truth. Argue night and day but when all is said and done let's review the team make up one more time and hang your heads in shame.

  • chuchu on August 15, 2010, 15:05 GMT

    Ijaz Butt, A very good Shoemaker, not a Color but region blind can not see outside specific area. Send him back to his real job. Mohsin . following directions He is better actor than SRK Send him back to Bolly Or Lolly or Hollywood.

    Batting Line Excellent against Girls School Bowling.Should Play at that level

    Only Bowling is Good Need a tearaway pace bowler, repeat tearaway pace bowler ,Bring Sami...He had almost win the sydney match and proven his worth in last domestic season. Has led Karachi to Quaid e Azam trophy Championship. What else He has to prove Do not drop Kaneria for a bad performance. Fielding Start from Kamran and start droping one who drops catches.

    All Rounder: S Malik is just out of form ,Bring Fawad or Razzaq

    Debate Topic Bias ...its a very clear fact .Most of the people will not accept untill it happens otherway.Drop all Players from Lahore ,The will open their eyes.

  • S.N.Qazi on August 15, 2010, 14:50 GMT

    The problem facing Pakistan Cricket is that the Chiefs of PCB are always appointed on the basis of cronyism . Ashraf' , Shaheryar, Tauqir Zia were all unfit for the job and did huge damage to Pakistan cricket . However, Butt is easily the worst Chief of PCB and his selection has been the biggest disaster . The first thing we need to do is tp press forth removal of Butt and appointment of a competent person on his place .

  • Omar Hussain on August 15, 2010, 14:47 GMT

    This is a thoughtful article.I agree Ijaz Butt should never have been appointed but his position is the same as other idiots of the People's Party who run the country.As long he has leeway and lobbying in the government he will keeping getting away with his stupid and unreasonable ideas.Bias towards the Karachi players is sadly very clear and evident.I am self a Punjabi but have never advocated this.The greatest batsman in Pakistan's history Hanif hails from Karachi,I wish we had at least 2 players with Hanif's monumental concentration and patience.People who belittle Younis are prejudiced;alongside Yousuf he has been easily our best batsman.I feel sorry for Fawad and Asim Kamal both are far better than the rookies Azhar ana Umin.sami has had his chances;he is fast but erractic and expensive.I wonder why Razzaq and Sohail Tanvir are forgotten?Razaq can even open and has the ideal temperment in a crisis,Fawad is a greatly neglected batsman who desereves a longer run in Tests.

  • Naeem on August 15, 2010, 12:31 GMT

    I dont buy this ethnicity/provincialism nonsense. If any region of Pakistan produced a batsmen like Javed Maindad, Hanif Mohammed or Inzi today he would be in the Pakistan team. Javed Maindad a Karchi based player is loved all over Pakistan.

    I agree with Kamaran that Ijaz Butt is a disaster and has for the time being burried Pakistan cricket.He must go,in fact he should be put on a donkey and paraded accross Pakistan. I would however go further and say that PCB is the problem with Pakistan cricker. Butt's predecessor Dr Naseem Ashraf was equally as a big disaster. He had absolutely no clue about cricket. He milked the PCB and left at the same time as his Patron Musharaf! What a conincidence!

    We dont need foreign coach but a foreign body to run PCB. This would introduce professionalism integrity and accountability which is totally lacking from PCB currently.

  • Aqdas on August 15, 2010, 12:16 GMT

    Poor timing and poor choice of a an article.I think kameran has really shown his other side.I liked to read his articles as an unbiased point of view but he has thoroughly discredited himself.

    KCCA is just playing politics at this critical time poor timing on thier part as well.All the players that play represent Pakistan.I wouldnt give a damn if all players were from Baluchistan! if there are selection issues they should be dealt with behind closed doors what was the logic behind airing dirty laundry in public?And to top it off kameran fell for it.

  • Cricpolitics on August 15, 2010, 11:41 GMT

    After reading most of the comments on this post it's clear that majority of the cricket loving people have rejected this notion of ethnicity so stop playing this card just to get few guys in the team.

  • Peace^Lover on August 15, 2010, 10:50 GMT

    What about Wahab Riaz ? Whats he doing there ? Here is my 11 For TEST MATCHES !

    1. Salman Butt (dont wanna select him but i know he will always be SELECTED! so no point of leaving him out) 2. Yasir Hameed 3. Younas Khan (Still the BEST test captain for Pak and Afridi for ODI) 4. Mo Yo 5. Umer Akmal 6. Malik/Asad Shafiq/ or any other youngster 7. Kamran Akmal / Zulqarnain / Sarfraz 8. M. Amir 9. Umer Gul 10. Kaneria/Ajmal 11. Asif

  • Peace^Lover on August 15, 2010, 10:46 GMT

    I am from Peshawar .. Well there are "MANY" things ! First of all it is right .. The current team is PUNJAB 11 not Pakistan 11 .. Why is Yasir Hameed still on bench .. I feel really bad for Asad Shafiq .. He played only 1 ODI .. The last match of Asia Cup (he was already omitted from England series)In few balls he faced He looked quite GOOD ! Better than Asad Ali or Umer Amin.. What about Mr. Butt Junior ? Avgng only 33 after playing for SO many YEARS ! why not give a same chance to Yasir Hameed. Well no one should ask about Imran Farhat because we all already know why he is in the team.. And about Younas Khan .. Yes he started his first class career from Karachi But he is born and raised in KPK and played club cricket from Peshawar Club. He is a true warrior. A man of principles. But sadly these type of man cant live in Pakistan HAPPILY !

  • Waseem on August 15, 2010, 10:34 GMT

    I believe its more a take over of a group than a region of Pakistan cricket team. It's Butts, Maliks & Akmals group which took oath not to play or perform against younis Khan total 7-8 players. This group has control over the PCB management or favourism whatever. This group was able to thorw out younis, yousuf and subsequently Afridi from the team. It was this group which should have been penalized instead of Yousuf & Younus. Due to the power of this group more talented and deserving players are out of team either from Karachi or Punjab either fawad Alam or Nasir Jamshed beacause more talented players will take over their place very soon which they dont want very simple. Butt sahib leading Pakistan side with an avg of less than 35 runs bravo it clearly shows Politics a winner.

  • Ahmed on August 15, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    Let me just paste the averages once again and I am strictly talking merit:

    2009-2010 QEA Averages Poor Karachi players not in squad Asad Shafiq (KhiB) 11 20 3 1104 147* 64.94 Fawad Alam (NBP) 4 6 1 418 154* 83.60

    Punjab Players in squad despite poor performance Umar Amin (NBP) 10 15 1 512 147 36.57 Azhar Ali (KRL) 10 17 2 445 153* 29.66

  • Ahmed on August 15, 2010, 10:28 GMT

    @ali_a

    Btw when did Fawad get a achance in Australia, eh?

  • Waseem on August 15, 2010, 10:19 GMT

    If we don't talk about regional favourism but it is a fact that there is favourism in the cricket board either u call it regional or personal. If you see the first class and current performances of Fawad Alam, Asad Shafiq & Asim Kamal they should have been given preference over Azhar Ali & Umar Amin. When Fawad scored century in his first test he is out of the team When Asim looked promising youngster making his way into the team he was suddenly droppoed. Likewise Imran Farhat is given chance pay chance and Yasir Hameed siiting on the bench watching helplessly. Sarfraz Ahmed declared best wicket keeper of the domestic tournament in 2009-10 was dropped against zulqarnain after playing only one match in Australia taking four catches. It is only the coincidence that players given preferences are all from Punjab :-O

  • deffury on August 15, 2010, 10:09 GMT

    One name: Asim Kamal

    nuff said!!

  • Osama Naeem on August 15, 2010, 8:38 GMT

    Fawad Alam and yasir hameed should still be given a chance in the next test and regarding provincialism yes a few karachi players should be included to atleast try to end the fuss created by karachi cricket association but see the facts most karachi players hve not really performed sami might be recalled if umar gul is unfit while others like kaneria khurram manzoor and faisal iqbal did not grab their oppurtunities and kamran akmal cant replace zulqarnain in the team so sarfraz ahmad has the least bit of a chance lesser chance and regarding other provinces balochistan unfortunately dosent have that level of interest in cricket as the other provinces only a handful of balochi players might hve played for pakistan and younis khan has his personal issuses with ijaz butt

  • Atif Chaudhary on August 15, 2010, 7:39 GMT

    I've seen some indifferent posts in this blog from time to time as well as some good ones. But to air laundry in public... This one is gross negligence from Kamran Abbasi. The examples are ridiculous: Mohammad Sami, Danish Kaneria don't merit any selection. Any one please pull up Danish's performace against best of competition and you will be surprised as to why has played for such a long time. Younis Khan has never claimed to be Karachiite. He has claimed Mardan as his hometown on numerous occasions. He does not play for any Karachi sides. The fact is that Shahid Afridi, who is a pathan from Karachi (and plays for Karachi sides), was made captained and couldn't handle it. While I am against many of Ijaz butt's policies, this isn't one of them.

  • Taha Zaffar on August 15, 2010, 5:17 GMT

    The Pakistan test team needs more nourishment added to their batting. No matter how good Azhar Ali and Umar Amin were at the domestic level. Bringing them to test level was a big failure Wicketkeeper and openers have always been an issue in the Pakistani line up. Zulqarnain was a huge success but sadly he is injured and is likely to miss rest of the series. Forget the regional bias in the Pakistani line up. I don't care what percentage of the team is from Sindh, Punjab or Khyber Pakhtunkhwa! I want to know where the real performers are? The bowling line up is excellent and you cannot ignore the fact that PCB has come up with the line up, why not come up with a new batting line up too? The performers in the Quaid-E-Azam trophy: Batsmen: Amir Sajjad, Asad Shafiq, Asim Kamal Bowlers: Zulfiqar Babar I just want to know where are they? OK. I'll forget them. But I still want to know where the veterans are? Younis and Rana banned. OK! But what about Abdul Razzaq, did you forget him? I didn't!

  • Muhammad Talal on August 15, 2010, 4:16 GMT

    This is a real ridiculous article. People are saying to select Faisal Iqbal and Danish Kaneria. If the number of chances given to Faisal Iqbal are given to Danish Kaneria for batting, he would have performed better than Faisal Iqbal. I do not know when it comes to Karachi you forget all the merits. Whats the credibility of Shahid Afridi (the one you can never trust). Same is the case for many other Karachi players. If you talk about Muhammad Sami, he would perform better. So stop thinking about this provincialism and talk about some merit.

  • anees razzak on August 15, 2010, 3:59 GMT

    Great article. The KCCA have full reason to be aggrieved. if you look at the team selection, why are so many karachi based players being left out. A clear example is Fawad Alam who has an excellent record and is a promising youngster in all departments of the game. you can also look at khurram manzoor in a similar context; and what of Asim Kamal who showed so much promise and then was dropped. The list goes on and the facts speak for themselves. Karachi is a true hub for great batsmen, (maybe not bowlers; not a big fan of kaneria); and you can look at the poor top order performance in England as evidence of biased selection towards punjabi players; who are predominantly more talented at bowling. Ijaz Butt must go!

  • ali_a on August 15, 2010, 3:47 GMT

    I hate this when people bring the Punjab vs Sindh debate in everything, look around you does it happen in other countires? Look at US - they fought a civil war to end the North/South division into two states. We as Pakistanis should be ashamed of ourselves. I still remember the 1992 WC, there were more flags of MQM there than that of Pakistan. Whoever were those people they did not deserve to be Pakistani, if you've so much dissent, go back to India and you"ll learn your lesson when you deal with Hindus. People who bring these ideas forward just want to divide the country for their own good.. Enough said on this topic... I personally like Younis and would love to see him the captain of both ODI and tests with Afridi only for t20. Fawad Alam only has a case over Raza Hasan because of his allround- otherwise he was a disappointment in Aus tour. Sami should have been the squad coz of his pace. But remember part of this bogus team was selected by our "short-cut" afridi- so blame him too.

  • Ehsan on August 15, 2010, 2:10 GMT

    your criticism may be right and I personally feel Ijaz Butt should have been axed earlier than now, but such an article on such a forum is a shame, it should have been avoided. Poor of the poorest efforts from Mr. Kamran Abbasi.

  • Amjad Afridi on August 15, 2010, 1:26 GMT

    continue 3.... last thing about younas khan steping donw again and again. let me remind you that the guy was robbed off his position by non other than his own players. so for a single minute lets be honest about his decision. 7 out of 11 players were against him and every one here commenting know that it happened against him. how would any " GHAIRTMAND " human being still stand there and say " i m man enough, common ". this is "beghairti" at its best if u r coming up with this point so please dont. we need talented players not players from punjab sindh or kp. i dont care where they are from.i dont care what their mother tongue is.all i care is i want talended players who wear that GREEN color with pride and dignity. i want my players to represent the whole nation.I WANT A TEAM

  • Amjad Afridi on August 15, 2010, 1:22 GMT

    (continue 2).. i strongly believe that Nasir Jamshed would have been far far and far better a batsman than salman butt IF he was given the same amount of chances as our beloved captain is getting ( which i honestly dont understand why and why on earth is the worst fielder in history of pakistan getting so many chances as a batsman and on top of that he is the captain now ).. another fact is that Yasir Hameed is far more superior technically as a batsman than the super-hero Shoaib malik and talking of form and consistancy, the guy averages more than shoaib and he has done it consistantlyl in domestic competition. so why oh why is only flying around with the team and the the super-flop is still playing? oh sory i forgot, he is the senior most batsman in our team so he has to hang around there to teach the youngster how to stab your captain..oopss.and yes as for kaneria, after seeing him miserably failing in four innings and that too consistanly he didn't deserve another chance.CONTINUE

  • Amjad Afridi on August 15, 2010, 1:15 GMT

    i belong to FATA. so my case is a bit different if i start speaking like you guys here are already talking about this non-sense. i sensed this coming the day i heard about the KCA stance on this matter and i was just hoping that we just dont write about it in newspapers or its just going to create a mess and here we go. but lets talk some logic here.not every one is wrong here.some actually made very good points here.as to those constantly talking about players from punjab, sindh, KP i must mention that merit was overlooked.its a fact. becuase players are selected not for their past records, and yes i agree consistancy is one thing which should always be kept in mind, but the current form over a period of time.for this matter i strongly believe that the domestic champions of Quad-e-Azam trophy MUST have representative atleast in the squad if not the playing XI ( continue )

  • zak uk on August 15, 2010, 0:43 GMT

    Forget all DA bull *** about which players from where n if he's Punjabi or pathan or gujar or WAT ever DEY all our brothers we bloody need to get proper team in n get rid of dis bloody butt who doesn't no WAT day it is . We have so many good players but they don't get chance

  • Omer on August 15, 2010, 0:26 GMT

    Its a shame on PCB that, despite having an excellent combination probably since world cup 2003, they could not utilize its potential only because of personal egos.

  • shafiq Ur Rehman on August 15, 2010, 0:09 GMT

    Remove Umer Amin,Umer akmal, Shoaib Malik, Imran Farhat, Salman Butt,Azhar Ali, Zulqurnain Hadir(injurd). and bring in Yousuf, younis, Fawad Alam, Abdul Razzaq, Asim kamal, Imran Nazir Sarfraz Ahmad

  • Hasan Jafar on August 14, 2010, 23:55 GMT

    Well wisher of Pak cricket has posted the best possible side that Pakistan can field based on performance and experience. Shoaib Malik and Imran Farhat definitely deserve the boot. The youngsters, Azhar Ali and Umar Amin are okay as reserve players. Ijaz Butt needs to be sacked and replaced with Ehsan Mani.

  • Muhammad Zahid on August 14, 2010, 22:52 GMT

    Dear Kamran your article have created an infight on nternational website what a shame.First of all the Karachi term used by a particular group of Karachi we all know who believe in achieving their goals through hatred but not by logic. Only Fawad Alam and Younis Khan deserve to be in the team. For others their stats speak their claibre. Shahid Afridi made the captain of Pakistan team who helped pakistan lost so many matches specially the Final of T20 with India. He is from Karachi and selected the team with Chief selector Mohsin Khan from Karachi. Shahid Afridi himself rejected all those players and run away like a coward.Similarly Pakistan last two best batsmans are from Punjab Inzi and yousuf. Sailkot is winning the T20 from the last five years. A particular group from karachi always hated Imran against Miandad. Miandad is earning big bucks from the same PCB and not saying a single word he is from Karachi what a shame. so keep on crying.

  • Sohaib Rashid on August 14, 2010, 22:26 GMT

    Forgot to add that why Shahzaib Hasan and Nasir Jamshed(Lahore guy) are not being given consistent chances in ODI team both have show true potential for the limited overs game !!!

  • Sohaib Rashid on August 14, 2010, 22:12 GMT

    What merits are there for the selection of Umar Amin,Azhar Ali and above all Shoaib Malik ??? Please explain this to me !

  • AN on August 14, 2010, 22:11 GMT

    A general philosophical and "big picture" view. Corruption/nepotism/cronyism is present in varying extent all over the world, as it is part of human nature. It is just that Pakistan is an extreme example and in general has plumbed new lows and ultimately cricket will be the least of the things to worry about. Having said that, good cricket administration may be the best way, by being a good example, for other aspects of life. The issue is to bring in a secular outlook to Govt. and get rid of arcane blasphemy and sharia type laws etc. I know my orthodox friends wont like it, but the writing is on the wall if radical change is not brought about soon. The modern world has moved on and one cannot continue to be a hyper-militaristic client/chowkidar State on the edge of failure, constantly bailed out with foreign aid. Extending another commenter, it is time to break the "mullah-military" alliance in favor of the common man.

  • Sohaib Rashid on August 14, 2010, 22:09 GMT

    Great article! And to guys who think this not right then tell my why Sarfaraz Ahmed the next in line keeper for the pathetic Akmal was not selected and got jumped over for a rookie like Zulqarnain! Where is Khurram Manzoor (last innings 77 in hobart), where is Fawad Alam a debut century in Srilanka, where is Faisal Iqbal a top batsman who has never been allowed to settle and fully utilized by inconsistent selection policy and shuttling him up and down the order, why was Asim Kamal dropped after a few tests, why is Asad Shafiq not selected the current highest runner of Quaid-e-Azam trophy Pakistan's premier domestic competion! And above all where is Younis Khan, who is definitely Pakistan's batting Legend by any standard! Yes there are some pathetic player's from Karachi who don't deserve selection like Hasan Raza and Mohammad Sami but to say that no one from Karachi merits selection is outrageously wrong!!!

  • Zohaib on August 14, 2010, 21:07 GMT

    I will rather use the term 'sifarish' then regional bias. Do you think the next guy who chairs the PCB will not have his favourites??? sure he will. It happens in every org.- about time we realised it.

    would love to see imran khan running the PCB- he has a btter chance here to prove himself then in the parliament ;)

  • ASADAK on August 14, 2010, 19:46 GMT

    SACK IJAZ BUTT AND YAWAR SAEED. THE PAKISTAN CRICKET DESTROYERS. Both of them should work for PCB as a grounds men. Banned players like Soaib malik, kamran akmal,rana naveed,saeed ajmal,Afridi. Get rid off Sami, kaneria,farhat,faisal Iqbal. Here is new test team. 1. Salman Butt 2.Yasir Hameed 3.Younis Khan (capt) 4.Mohd Yousuf 5.Fawad Alam 6.Abdul Razzaq 7.Zulqurnan/ Sarfraz 8.Amir 9.Asif 10.Gul/shoaib akhtar 11.new spinner

  • Faisal Ahmed on August 14, 2010, 19:44 GMT

    WHY DON'T IJAZ BUT ANNOUNCE THAT CURRENT TEAM IS PUNJAB'S TEAM RATHER THEN PAKISTAN'S TEAM? With that Mr Butt and Mr Mohsin khan should make it clear to whole world that in Pakistan only Punjab province have good players. With that all non punjabi selectors should be fired. With that all other non punjabi workers of PCB should be fired. With that PCB MUST NOT GET any monetary funds from KARACH (AS IT IS WELL KNOWN FACT THAT KARACHI DO PRODUCE 67 % of all Pakistan's revenew) With that all palyers in the team should speak in punjabi in the ground (which they do any way). With that it should be announced by PCB that ONLY PUNJABI PLAYERS WILL BE SELECTED FOR FUTRUE MATCHES AND TOURS so other province's players like, Younis, Sami, Fawad, Khurram, Sarfraz, Asim etc don't need to bother and even think about getting selected in PUNJAB'S NATIONAL TEAM.

    BAD LUCK PUNJAB'S TEAM.

  • Faisal Jamali on August 14, 2010, 19:40 GMT

    Kamran this is nonsense! I am a karachite and the last thing we need is this Punjabi vs the rest in cricket.You might argue that why karachi that generates more than 60% of the country' revenue get 10% from the kitty based on population consesus as prejudice but i am sorry, faisal iqbal,sami etc are all failures. Only fawad,asim kamal and Younis warrant a place in the side. It is not ethnicity but contacts that keep you in the team. Which sane person can argue ShoaiB Malik's inclusion in the team or Farhats or Kamran Akmal?? It is their political contacts not because they are Punjabi! I am dissapointed by this article.....Younis Khan, is a man of honour like his fellow pathans(EXCLUDING TALIBAN)but decency is a trait that Ijaz Butt does not share! YOU need to focus on writing articles on removing IJAZ BUTT!

  • Irfan on August 14, 2010, 19:26 GMT

    I hundred percent agree the players from Karachi and other areas despite being talented are being ignored for some unknown reasons. 1. Fawad Alam has better international and first class averages than Azhar Ali, Umar Amin, Shoaib Malik, Salman Butt, Imran Farhat 2. Khurran Manzoor was the highest scorer with 77 runs against Australia in Hobart Test 2010 but still didn't get picked for the tour of England 3. Mohammad Sami: May not be better than Aamir, Asif and Gul but deserved a place in the squad of 17 instead of Wahab Riaz 4. Kaneria not in best form but always treated shabbily. He was let go right away whereas Kamran Akmal stays with the team

  • ather on August 14, 2010, 18:34 GMT

    we need to hire foreign selectors and board Chairman so that with the professional approach they would select the deserving players from all across Pakistan.

  • Muhammad Waqar on August 14, 2010, 18:32 GMT

    Nice article. I agree with you. But I don't think Faisal Iqbal stand a chance for selection after 20 tests so do shoaib malik. What about Asad Shafiq he is the highest run getter in domestic season. I don't think why umer amin and azhar ali is playing in Team Pakistan both of them are not in the list of highest run getters are they more talented than Asad or for instance Fawad Alam?.... Do think about it seriously. Because Cricket is the only thing which unite us as a nation. If Umar Amin and Shoaib Malik can get lot of chances then Fawad, Asim and Asad should get same treatment.

  • Nadeem Qureshi on August 14, 2010, 17:37 GMT

    Just when it was time for you to show maturity and responsibility, you have chosen the exact opposite route.

    That Butt is a joke, even a curse hoisted on us by the powers that be is a forgone conclusion. That PCB is Pakistan cricket's biggest undoing is a fact lost only on the jokers who run it.

    However, Karachi association have embarrassed themselves by playing the provincialism card; and by getting sucked into their version of the world you have shown a complete lack of good judgment.

    I fail to understand the people who are rooting for Fawad Alam, Kaneria and Sami. Fawad is no better than the rookies sent with the team - he is neither a dependable batsman nor an effective bowler. Kaneria's figures on this tour speak for themselves - or not, and just where does Sami fit into the picture. Afridi decided to walk out on his own. Case closed.

    Younis certainly deserves a place ahead of Yousuf - the man has honor, passion and commitment - even if he is given to tantrums.

  • Rashid on August 14, 2010, 17:16 GMT

    Can't believe it you wrote this article,I admire you for yours guts .Never the less it is true.Zardari has worst plan for Pakistan that is why he went to get advice.British based sons and daugters are gettinng full training.Don't ask for change he will have chance to replace with one worst than Butt. Any way I thought why can't they leave cricket alone so that fools can enjoy something.

  • Imran Khalid on August 14, 2010, 17:04 GMT

    I agree completely that this joker named Ijaz Butt must be sacked.Enough damage has been done to Pakistan cricket.

    However i don't agree with major part of the article.Rather i would call it a disappointing article from Kamran.Everyone knows that Younis isn't dropped because he plays for Karachi.Dropping Younis is an insane act but the reason Kamran is giving is absolutely wrong.

    M.Sami case even doesn't deserved to be discussed.He's the only bowler in the history of world cricket(amongst bowlers who have taken 50+ wkts in test cricket) who averages more than 50.What a shameful world record!So he deserves not to be in the squad

    Kaneria as been miserable on this tour and was rightly dropped after giving ample opportunities.His replacement(Saaed) came and got a 5 wkt + 50.

    Only player who deserved to be in the side is F.Alam.The guy averages ~55 in first class.More than Younis,Yousuf,Inzammam.He must have been selected & played in the middle order

  • aftab on August 14, 2010, 17:02 GMT

    Good article. Let's try some provincialist, now that our team is not worth writing about.

  • Javaid Abbasi on August 14, 2010, 16:46 GMT

    Everyone in Pakistan cricket either wants to bat or bowl - and they can't do that very well either - and no one wants to be a good fielder. The fielding standard of Pakistani team is deplorable, to say the least. If I was the selector, I will drop people like Salman Butt, Imran Farhat, Umar Amin, Kamran Akmal just based on their poor fielding and will not ever consider them for selection until they prove that their fielding is of test standard. Pakistan's fielding right now is embarassing; in the last test Butt and Amin dropped catches that even a school boy could have taken. We need coaches who put equal - at the present time more - emphasis on the fielding than on batting and bowling. It is more a morale-booster for the team if someone takes a great catch or puts in a great fielding effort. A display of good fielding really lifts up a team which in turn brings out the best from the whole team. On the other hand, it is very depressing for a team to see a fielder drop a dolly.

  • Javaid Abbasi on August 14, 2010, 16:30 GMT

    Why not have two cricket matches - a five-day match and a 50-over match - between the present Pakistan Cricket team and a team from Karachi. The Karachi team will include players such as Sami, Younis, Asad, etc. I bet you the Karachi team will beat the present Pakistan team.

  • Yousuf Zaman on August 14, 2010, 15:41 GMT

    Good debate , V Support Mo Yo ,V supported YK..V suppoerted Asif ,when He was in self created problems , V support Sami a proven perfomer with a negative reputation ,Fawad , never used up to Full of potentials. V support Yasir ,V support Asad Shafiq. V R upset that a player like Kaneria is totaly cut from roster for just one bad performance.V need to see more of Asim Kamal, who never failed . More of Sarfraz who is the best keeper ,and in few outings never missed a chance. V dont most famous son in law as opener, V dont want a self proclaimed better actor than Amitabh and better batsman than Miandad as our chief Selector. V do not want any one who does not deserve, V want only the best to represent Pakistan . Muslim, Hindu Christian or any religion ... Karachi Lahore Peshawar .Gojar khan ,Ghotki Islamabad or Pasni Jiwani Personally liked or disliked by chief or politicians.

    Just bring the Best.

  • Kausar on August 14, 2010, 15:38 GMT

    Salman But prior to promote his favorites he must take responsibilities of his own game, I m sure if any 1 ask selection parameter from Ijaz Butt he would not have even a clue. I have only one question from team selection members, which performance and what parameter they adopt to select such dump players where as their first class cricket records are not even such impressive? We need Pakistan representative team not Provincial and dump players. Stop disgracing Pakistan Name.

  • Kausar on August 14, 2010, 15:24 GMT

    At first place, Mr. waterbuffalo you need to understand the meaning of “Grow” and to grow u have to understand game technical demand. I love Wasim Akram, Waqar Yonis and Imran Khan because all these guys were Pakistan Hero’s despite what province they belongs too, we need players selection on merit bases not on language or provincial bases, we representing Pakistan not any province at international ground.

  • Well-wisher of Pak Cricket on August 14, 2010, 15:12 GMT

    My XI for the Oval test would be based on injuries and players available in England at present:

    1. Salman Butt (captain) 2. Yasir Hameed 3. Younis Khan (already in England) 4. Muhammad Yousuf 5. Umar Akmal 6. Fawad Alam (already in England) 7. Kamran Akmal (replaces injured Haider) 8. Abdul Razzaq (in England & replaces injured Gul) 9. Muhammad Aamir 10. Saeed Ajmal 11. Muhammad Asif

    This is a good balanced side with no 10. having scored a test 50 in the last game. Abdul Razzaq and Younis Khan to support two A's in the pace/swing dept and Fawad Alam's left arm spin to support the Ajmal (who should be asked to bowl conventional off-spin as his stock ball and use his deadly doosra occasionally will get him a bucket load of test wickets especially on helpful tracks like the Oval). No guarantee of the keeper if he has another melt down, he should do well as he was dropped and will want to put up a good show!

  • Ovais Khan on August 14, 2010, 14:58 GMT

    I disagree picking up a young team to play overseas for the sake of building a team for the future. Young players who fail will probably never get another chance to play again so don't ruin their careers! It is unfair to play debutants on their first tour with the senior national team on 3 & 4. Only Pakistan would be foolish enough to try this--plain and simple suicide.

    Every test match our team needs to be the best XI players available. Since there are only 3 days to the 3rd test & Gul & Haider are out injured, I propose the following XI that will challenge England & even win the test on a supportive Oval pitch, which should favour Pakistan:

    1. Salman Butt (Captain) 2. Yasir Hameed 3. Younis Khan (already in England) 4. Muhammad Yousuf 5. Umar Akmal 6. Kamran Akmal (back as keeper as Haider is injured) 7. Abdul Razzaq (replaces Gul) 8. M Aamir 9. Saeed Ajmal 10. Hasan Raza 11. M Asif

  • Javaid Abbasi on August 14, 2010, 14:52 GMT

    To me and - I know for a fact - to almost 99% of other Pakistanis it does not matter which part of the country a player is from as long as as he is selected on merit to represent Pakistan. And I can't imagine how anyone can think otherwise. I just cannot imagine how a selector, or the chief of the PCB, can pick a player because he is from Punjab or Karachi over a more talented and deserving player. But, unfortunately, it happens. These kind of people will always exist; they have in the past and they will in the future. They need to be identified early and removed from responsible positions before they can cause some serious damage to some players' careers. I don't know why some people are so racist and biased, I just can't imagine anyone to be like that. Mr Ijaz Butt has proved himself to be one such person. He is causing some serious damage to Pakistan Cricket. He interferes in team selection when thats not even his job. Selectors, base your team selection on merit and not on region.

  • Mudassar Rana on August 14, 2010, 14:49 GMT

    This has never been about regionalism or an anti karachi stance. The fact of the matter is that Pakistan as a country and as a cricket board is being run by crooks. To get selected for Butt or to get selected by Zardari requires monetary compensation. why else do you think players like malik and farhat keep on getting selected? The crime of their selection is nothing to do with them being punjabi but the fact that they cannot play and still being selected. Look how Mohammad Irfan's (a punjabi) career has been handled.one minute in the squad the next not. And now provisionally selected for IPL 4. Asim Kamal almost bradsmanesque infront of the likes of malik doesnt even get a look in. Lets all chip in and raise some money for kamal, irfan and we can all hand it over to the clowns that Butt and Saeed are.

  • Ovais Khan on August 14, 2010, 14:39 GMT

    Step 1. PCB needs some serious housekeeping..Sack Butt and his cronies. 2. Appoint a governing board comprising of Ehsan Mani, Majid Khan & Ramiz Raja with Mani Chairman & Majid as Director, Operations. The board will give both a short-term vision (now to next 12 months until the completion of the World Cup '11) and the long term vision for the next 3-5 years. Publish the long awaited constitution with the next 3 months and revamp the domestic competition, appoint a 5-member independant and performance based selection committee which will select the team based on merit alone.

    The board will also have to evolve a plan to bring back any international XI to play in Pakistan with a year (Ehsan Mani has claimed that and the Board should be given this important task of reviving international cricket). Until that happens the domestic cricket should be made exciting by arranging a T20, ODI and 3-4 day Mini-Tests between a maximum of 2-3 teams with all the best available talent in Pakistan.

  • Shafiq Ur Rehman on August 14, 2010, 13:42 GMT

    Our heros, Haneef mohammad Tasleem Arif, Javed mianda Moeen Khan Sakandr bukht, Waseem Bari, Imran Khan, Intakhab Alam Abdul Qadir, Waseem Akram, Zaheer Abbas, Majid Khan, Fazil Mahmood, Inzamam al Haq, Saeed Awar they were all Pakistani non of them Indian and we should think for Pakistan and only for Pakistan who ever have better internationl everage he should be in the team from any part of Pakistan (IS PARCHAM KE SAEY TALAY HAM AIK HAEEN HAM AIK HAEE today is 14 Aug).I am against Mr Ijaz But who did not listen the rest of the Selection commitee expt Mohsin Khan in the bigning of the tour. now It is the time for president of pakistan to remove Ijaz But from his position and appoint a better one like,Javaid Miandad, Rashid Lateef(keeper) Inzama al Haaq, Imran Khan, Mushtaq Mohammad, Saeed Anwar. (Please don't help to the enimy of pakistan by saying Sindhi,Punjabi,Pathan Bolochi we should say Pakistani)Like United states of America. United states of Pakistan.Pakistan born to be on TOP

  • Mujeeb on August 14, 2010, 13:39 GMT

    This article is nothing but a shameless attempt to legitimize the accusations of discrimination by KCCA ... I am not a fan of Butt and cannot wait to see him leave his position but in every case you mentioned in your article there is a strong reason for the players not being selected whether its poor performance or disciplinary actions taken against those players.

  • Red_Devil on August 14, 2010, 13:33 GMT

    Going by the comments, it is sad to see that people are opening-up the regional debate; instead of worrying about the success of the national team, they are worried about players from a particular province. I won't go as far as saying that the current squad favors regionalism, but some deserving players are missing out. Younis Khan (yes he gave up captaincy, but that is because of his honesty, and failure to look beyond the corruption; why punish him for that?), Sami (he is surely better than Wahab Riaz), Fawad Alam (why Umar Amin above him?), & Asim Kamal (no one can explain his disappearance from the international stage)... As for Kaneria, he's not well supported by anyone! One bad performance or two, and people forget that he's been a leading wicket-taker over the years. Even if 11 players from the same province do take field, as long as they are the best in the nation, it should not be a problem; that is not the case though, and Butt's shameless regime has to finally end!

  • Taha Kaleem on August 14, 2010, 12:38 GMT

    What about Fawad Alam & Khurram Manzoor? They both scored half centuries in their last international innings.

  • Muhammad Muzz Ahmed on August 14, 2010, 12:21 GMT

    Oh WOW! First of all Kamran Abbasi good article. I didn't read all the comments but as you mention the biased selection in cricket squad. I would say that it's not biased selection its politics, and for GOD sake keep cricket away from politics. One thing I don't understand, Why PCB select inexperienced players when they have option to select experienced one. Youngster selected by PCB at the age of 18 or 19. Those player need more time to be polished. I know our team is very young and need time to get some experienced but this will happen when our team have some experienced player in it. Believe me, I played club level cricket almost 9 years and I know so many players who have talent and experience and just because they don't have any "BIG SOURCE" so they couldn't get on the higher level. My suggestion for cricket board is that if they can't select the team,let the PAKISTANI nation select the team.

  • Mohammed Ashraf Calgary on August 14, 2010, 12:12 GMT

    Well, I think all the players who took a oath on Quran to under perform should be banned for life and stayed banned for life. This is just not allowed in kind of business that somebody do things like this. As of who should be a captain of Test side, no doubt it should be YOUNAS Khan, He is may not be the most talented player on the side but he does have best leadership skills in the team. Sulman Butt As a captain, give me a break, its his luck that he won the test match in his captency debue and will be surprise if pakistan does win another match while he is a captain. Pakistani Players if you guys are reading this, please play from your heart for the country who has given you people everything, name, money etc. Think about the people who are suffering because of flood and other desasters, at least give some kind of good news to Pakistanis.

  • Mohammed Ashraf Calgary on August 14, 2010, 11:41 GMT

    Well, I think all the players who took a oath on Quran to under perform should be banned for life and stayed banned for life. This is just not allowed in kind of business that somebody do things like this. As of who should be a captain of Test side, no doubt it should be YOUNAS Khan, He is may not be the most talented player on the side but he does have best leadership skills in the team. Sulman Butt As a captain, give me a break, its his luck that he won the test match in his captency debue and will be surprise if pakistan does win another match while he is a captain. Pakistani Players if you guys are reading this, please play from your heart for the country who has given you people everything, name, money etc. Think about the people who are suffering because of flood and other desasters, at least give some kind of good news to Pakistanis.

  • sali on August 14, 2010, 11:23 GMT

    Ridiculous. Despite my extraordinary desire to see Ijaz Butt go, this Karachi stuff can't be blamed as planned by Ijaz Butt. He can definitely be blamed for being the most incompetent, over the hill and the man who single handedly destroying Pak cricket but can't be blamed for planning this. - He made Iqbal Qasim the selector and Yonus Khan the captain. They could have selected the team based on quota. - He made Mohsin Khan the selector and Afridi the captain. Still two Karachi men did not select the players from Karachi. - Sami has been given numerous chances, I agree that Fawad should have been in the team before Umer Amin and Azhar. Why Umer Amin has been given so many chances is unexplainable. - Lack of cricket ground and political situation is what hurting Karachi. As a result of this we are not seeing the players like Minadad, Zaheer, and Saeed Anwar coming out of Karachi. That's a real problem for Pakistan's cricket.

  • Muhammad Aamir Aslam on August 14, 2010, 11:02 GMT

    Sorry to say this Kamran sahab,but your article is simply pathetic,On the eve of 14th August and while bypassing Biggest Disaster in the history of pakistan,all of it is making it more pathetic. Its the time to unite the nation against the disaster, Rather you have found a mysterious way of splitting them. Secondly you would have found thousands of reasons to omit IJAZ BUTT, and we all with no fuss at all would have agreed with you. Some how I know deep inside that even you know that the base of this article is wrong. Only Younis khan and Asim Kamal are the ones that deserve place in this team. Omission of younis khan is simply personal with IJAZ BUTT.Some others like Fawad Alam or asad shafiq could have been given a chance but results would not have been different. And for others you know reason much better.And if still you have issues forward me the list of deserving Karachi palyers and I will send you your latest comments about them from your previous posts.No offence.

  • PontingKhan on August 14, 2010, 10:57 GMT

    Butt is a goner...he can't play any part in success of Pakistan Cricket team, so all we can do is wait. I guess Pakistan has to include talented physically FIT players(somewhat imposing),not worry about where they come from and then stick with them. This is what usually Australia does e.g nathan hauritz, shane watson are ordinary players but fit and determined. Fawad Alam is a little boy, he may be talented but would get easily intimidated. i am wary of younis khan's batting, but he has always maintained the physical fitness to be on the squad, whereas Mohammed Yousaf is the most elegant batsman playing today, but he hasn't got the energy to hit the ball hard.

  • Kamran Zaheer on August 14, 2010, 10:22 GMT

    Decent article, but this is a blog about cricket, why bother bringing politics into it. Yes we know your are not a fan of the political regime in Pakistan, but your blog is about cricket, there was no need to mention President Zardari here. I'm fast losing respect for you and your writings, which at times may be accurate, but are always tinged with your loathsome personal prejudices.

  • Cricpolitics on August 14, 2010, 10:17 GMT

    Can somebody tell me if Rana Naveed is from Karachi or Punjab? As for as I know he is the only player left who is still banned and he is not even from Karachi so let's just stop bringing ethnic issue into it.

  • Shabut on August 14, 2010, 10:13 GMT

    Shame on KCA and the writer for making this an ethnic issue. For God's sake country is already divided and don't try to bring the dirty provincial politics into this game. There are many other ways to protest and most of their claims don't even have any weight when it comes to few of the players that have been mentioned.

  • Amran Yousaf on August 14, 2010, 9:53 GMT

    Kamran, another excellent article.

    The selection of this test squad left me gobsmacked. However being a patriotic Pakistani I will still continue to support my team. It was always obvious with that vindictive idiot running the PCB that Younis Khan was not going to be selected. However the exclusion of Fawad Alam left me bewildered. I have not seen anything yet that suggests that Azhar Ali is a better batsman than Fawad, In fact there was a quote by Mohsin Khan when he became the chief selector that Fawad Alam was a great player who deserves to be included across all formats of the game. I am intrigued to know why this has changed. The only thing we can hope for is that idiot in charge of the board is sacked as he is not the type of person to step aside voluntarily. Maybe then maybe we can start to repair the damage of the last two years caused by this aptly described buffoon has cause

  • gulab on August 14, 2010, 9:44 GMT

    why razzaq not play in pak/eng series.where is imran nazir.where is younas khan....... pakistani teems also need these batsmans.plz

  • Ahmed on August 14, 2010, 9:07 GMT

    Fawad Alam deserved a chance. A great debut hundred and an excellent innings in the last odi in Australia.

    Besides this he was the only guy who ran out Ricky Ponting by a direct hit at the stumps. I dont remember any other Pakistan team member throwing direct at the stumps.

    Also the chances Fawad got mostly have been at the lower positions. No. 6 or 7. I doubt one can do a lot woth few balls remaining in an innings.

    Besides this Danish bowled badly in one match and was dropped, while Kamran has been dropping catches since eternity but he will always be selected back and I am sure about it. Also I am damn sure that Kamran has sat back coz Zulqarnain was available. if it was Sarfraz as reserve keeper he wouldnt have sat back and would have told everyone "I am playing"

  • Ahmed on August 14, 2010, 8:42 GMT

    All the Karachi bashers please note that batting average of Fawad Alam is higher than any of the batsmen in current Pakistani line up. He is being punished for being too close to Younis Khan, another Karachiite. Some people say Younis is from KP but it is Malir gymkhana, where he has nurtured his cricketing skills. Apart from that most of better batsmen in domestic circuit are hailing from karachi. KCCA has been the best team in longer format of game locally for quite some time now. What about Sarfaraz Ahmed, what wrong did he do to be dropped like that only after one test match? If Kaneria can be dropped why could'nt they drop Akmal and Akmal? especially K Akmal who should have been dropped 4 years ago. If Kaneria had healey or gilly, he would have easily had 300+ victims and bowling average under 30's. What about Asim Kamal?

    Guys I am a 100% patriotic Pakistani, but the present line up does seem like Punjab 11 (infact Punjab 16 as the 17th one is Karachiite)

  • roomi on August 14, 2010, 8:27 GMT

    This Karachi- Punjab thing used to be a friendly rivalry and sadly now being used as a political ethnic card. I dont think though best players are being selected ( even from Punjab)Same goes for Karachi and that is is the incompetance of the system and PCB. Yunis should have been in the side. Fawad Alam probably getting penalised because he may have been close to yunis khan and its Younis who gave him a break as an opener in Test cricket. Its just bad management. PCB has also not encouraged players with Test match temperament even from Punjab like Mohamed Waseem and same goes for talents like Hasan Raza and Asim Kamal. Hasan and Asim should still be part of the Test fifteen and be allowed to thrive. Best players should regardless of where they are from. But best players are not being chosen we all agree but Please lets not get into these accusations of regionalism and ethnic bias. Ijaz Butt and Yawar Saeed need to go and someone credible like Arif ali khan Abbasi needs to run PCB

  • Masroor AHmed on August 14, 2010, 8:19 GMT

    PCB stands for Punjab Cricket Board. But and company destroying cricket in Pakistan. Whole team is from Punjab and they have got a yes man Mohsin Khan who cares about the money he gets from the board. Why Malik, Azhar, Amin Akmal's are in? performance? Khurram Manzoor scored 77 in the last test innings why he is out? simple answer he is from Karachi. Younus, Khurram, Sami, Asad, Fawwad, Sarfaraz, Asim, Tabish etc are not from Punjab. Only Punjab players are exempted? Chudhry Ahmeed Mukhtar brother in law is merit to be PCB Chairman? PCB promotes not only the cricketers from Punjab but the umpires too. All the nominations are from Lahore and vicinity. Soon or later we will have another team other than Punjab when cricket will get freedom from Punjab. Mr. Bukhari is also a puppet, he must be sacked. Shame on us we still love Pakistan.

  • Javed on August 14, 2010, 8:16 GMT

    This is really Punjab cricket team. How come a player like shoaib malik ave 30 and Salman butt av. 33 are in the team and Younas khan has been humiliated for his honesty. One thing i dont know that why Mr. Butt is so powerful that against all arguments, he is keeping Younas out of the team and no one is realizing to tell him to be a pakistani. This should be Pakistan cricket team, not punjab cricket team

  • Arif Siddiqui on August 14, 2010, 7:56 GMT

    I am fully agreed with Kamran's view that Butt is a calamity for Pak Cricket, What a pity that a person who cannot even clean his face by tissue is running the country's supreme sposts house.

  • Usman on August 14, 2010, 7:55 GMT

    this should me the line up of Pakistani team.

    This team should be played in tests. there is no room for azhar ali and umar amin , as they need to imporve further .

    Yes, a youngster aamir sajjad, highest run getter in domestic season should be given a chance at one day level , first.

    I totally diagree with Afridi and others that he cant be a test player. In fact, after younis, afridi has to be the next captain.

    I AM FROM ISLAMABAD, I AM A PUBJABI, YET I AGREE THAT PEOPLE LIKE BUTT ARE CREATING DIFFERENCES AND HE MUST BE REMOVED

    1) Salman Butt 2) Fawad Alam or Imran Nazir 3) Younis Khan (Captain) 4) Mohammad Yousaf 5) Umar Akmal 6) Shahid Afridi 7) Zulqarnain Haider 8) Saeed Ajmal 9) Umar Gul 10)Mohammad Amir. 11)Mohammad Asif

  • waterbuffalo on August 14, 2010, 7:46 GMT

    @iftikhar haider, thank you for your comment, I have to tell you, I am a Malaysian, I became an opening bowler because of Imran, so I have supported Pakistan since 81, I loved Imran's style and leadership, and Pakistan's incredible fighting spirit, even at 26-6 in India, they can win, no other country can do that, only Pakistan, most of my former teamates were SL/India or Australian fans, I was the only one that supported Pakistan in my team, I love Pakistan because of their bowling, Waqar is my hero, and you know waqar and wasim were fighting all the time, as were Miandad and Imran, it is nothing new, I just wish Pakistan had a very strong Captain, like Lloyd was for the Windies, or Brearley and Chappell, Inzy and Yousuf were brilliant, this boy salman is putting down Yousuf, the guy who broke Richards'record, that shows a lack of class and a lack of knowledge of history. Yousuf is one of the best batsmen in the world, Younis is not, WC 2007.

  • Aatif on August 14, 2010, 7:34 GMT

    Some folks are in denial but there is definitely some bias.Some of the players sighted from Karachi have had their chances but there are a good number of batsmen from Karachi that could have been picked ahead of Azhar Ali, Umar Amin & Shoaib Malik and the team would have fared better.Checkout the domestic performances of Asad Shafiq, Shehryar Ghani, Fawad Alam, Khurram Manzoor, Hasan Raza, Saeed Bin Nasir & Fazal Subhan and u will see that they have better record than the ones given the nod ahead of them. I am absolutely baffled as to why Younis and Yousuf the 2 most experienced batsmen r treated the way they are. Yousuf was never Captaincy material but his place in the team as a batsman is undeniable. Younis was and still is the best choice for Captain. Salman is too young for Captaincy and it has affected his batting. Bowling dept is locked in by Asif, Aamer, Gul, Ajmal. Another Karachi player Anwar Ali who can swing the ball crazy and bat & has performed well s/b given a chance.

  • Armughan on August 14, 2010, 7:13 GMT

    The team is certainly going through a potential "identity crisis" at the moment. Younis Khan, Asim Kamal, Asad Shafique, Yasir Hameed are some of the many who deserve selection in the team. Though i just can't figure out why Basit Ali and some others are so obsessed with Muhammad Sami. He has 84 wickets in 34 tests at an average of 51. I think it quite obvious he is not test material. Ijaz Butt is not the most intelligent man in the world and recent selection shows that he may not be the most unbiased either. The sooner he is sacked, the better for the game.

  • waterbuffalo on August 14, 2010, 6:50 GMT

    @syed banoori, yes I think Fawad Alam and Hameed deserve a chance, Hameed possibly at 3 and Fawad at 5 or 6, hell I would love to see Asim Kamal at 5, I think we should persist with Farhat, in the middle order, he can blast the soft ball to pieces, obviously I don't like Shoaib Malik and Umar Amin there, but I think Azhar has potential, Pakistan hasn't had any world class openers since Saeed Anwar, so that has to be adressed, I like Salman, but I do not think he can handle opening and captaincy, we don't know for sure, but if he gets out in single digits he is going to lose his job, BTW, I'm not from Punjab, I just want to see Pakistan win. And I want to see Yousuf at 4 and I want to see Pakistan going down fighting, not 9 wickets...

  • Naveed on August 14, 2010, 6:47 GMT

    After reading the comments and article I could only feel sorry for our team since many people donot even know which players are doing well at the domestic circuit. I firmly believe that any player who has given the best performance at the domestic level should be tried and persisted with. AS far as karachi is concerned two players that come straight to mind are fawad alam(avg 55 domestic and 40+ in international test+ODI)and Khalid latif(scored a 200* domestic ODI to make a comback. I would not encourage the sindh-punjab debate much as I feel its more damaging. The thing that bothers me is the fact that Sialkot(Punjab) has won 5 RBS pentangular cup under Shoaib Malik and it has only 2 players(Asif and Malik) in the squad?? Umar amin in my opinion is the only un accounted player in the current squad and should be replaced with Fawad

  • Jaber Malik on August 14, 2010, 6:18 GMT

    I am very dissappointed at Kamran Abbasi's phrase about Danish Kaneira "Suddenly dropped". Danish was useless in the test and should have been dropped. You just can not keep the player on his past records. Ajmal is a far better bowler and even proved it. It would have been nice if Kamran Abbasi had made this point as well.

    It seems like our politicians our writers, thinkers all are out to get Pakistanis fighting each other

  • Bashir Khan on August 14, 2010, 5:09 GMT

    Butt has to be the worst Chairman in the history of Pakistan cricket, and that is really quite an achievement considering the long history of ineptitude in that particular role! No other Chairman has ever presided over such draconian and far-reaching punishments such as the ones dealt out after the Australian tour. England lost 5-0 the last time they toured there. They set up a panel to investigate what went wrong but they did not hand out life-bans and fines to over half the team! The utter stupidity of this administration beggars belief. The most depressing thing for me is that Pakistani's seem to have been inoculated into submission by such terrible leadership. We've lost our voice and our hope at the very time when we need to stand up, protest, and demand better. In any other country, Butt would have been hounded out by now. If we remain silent we will continue to sleepwalk whilst Butt and his administration turn a proud cricketing nation into a complete laughing stock.

  • Yousuf Zaman on August 14, 2010, 4:15 GMT

    LOGIC AND RECORDS

    Mr waterbuffalo has rated Amir/Gul and Asif a miles above Sami,

    The fastest and fittest, has won the Quaid a azam trophy for Karachi.

    christchurch /Sydney/Johannesburg or Chennai/KHI Sami has brought Pak closer to victory ,more than any other bowler.on 90% occassion when Pak Bowled other team out,who was the man. Check it out

    one of the best Pakistani fielder,brings an energy in the field.

    simply Sami is the best Pakistani bowler ,but Butt and .....does not have enough sense.

    Re: Bias , kaneria with 360 wickets on credit are cut from roster for one bad performance.and jerks farhat , AZhar Amin have guarnteed selection. Dont U Know Asim Kamal did He ever failed to score ?.What about Asad Shafiq . Sarfraz is the best keeper, ever missed a chance ? younis is one of two best batsman in Pak ,other one is Mo Yo. Has brought glory by winning T20 Cup. V R astonished by Bari ,ALWAYS Considered as The Man of discipline and Principles.

  • Kuram on August 14, 2010, 2:42 GMT

    I am a Karachitte and this article is very very damaging. There is no case for Danesh to be in the side and Saeed Ajmal just proved it. Younis Khan has not shown form for his matches in Surrey and was duly not selected. Out of the other non-Punjabi player, Umar Gul is out because of an injury. Yasir Hameed may very well get a chance in the next match.

    And Shahid Afridi was the captain of the team who retired on his own.

    Even though I agree that Ijaz Butt has been the worst thing to happen to Pakistan cricket, there is no weight to your Karachi argument.

    Totally baseless and very hurting for a Pakistani fan. You are trying to create fractionalism. I am not sure if it is through blind hate or misjudgement.

  • Dr.Iyer, India on August 14, 2010, 1:50 GMT

    Pakistan Govt or its representative PCB is good joke. But Dr.Kamran well why bring a new issue to play with poor fans? Ur country needs better administrators so do mine but ur need is too urgent. As for regionalism well if all XI players from same region wins u matches hope u wont mind. Well its not right time now for this issue coz ur batsman are unable to see the second new ball. How pathetic? YK or anyone who can resist is required now. Let him be from anywhere even a pakistani abroad I hope we all ll take him than the ones now.

  • Suhaib on August 14, 2010, 0:59 GMT

    One more thing to add about Fawad Alam, Asim Kamal and Faisal Iqbal... they seem to be sent at any random position every time... tough job!

  • Suhaib on August 14, 2010, 0:56 GMT

    Although I cannot support the inclusion of Sami (bowling avg of 50+), the exclusion of Fawad Alam and Younis Khan is shocking. Both have batting averages way above the current lot. The question to ask is this... which of the current batsmen (excluding MoYo) deserves to be in the team ? Fawad Alam, Asim Kamal and Faisal Iqbal are brought into play for one match in a year. It really doesnt matter whether they perform or not, they somehow are out of the next playing XI. Sending in two debutants at 3 and 4 on England pitches was a hopeless mistake, which clearly shows that the PCB and the team management clearly lack the competence needed to manage cricket affairs. A good piece on Fawad Alam's credentials: http://blog.dawn.com/2010/08/13/the-curious-case-of-fawad-alam/

  • iluvme on August 14, 2010, 0:49 GMT

    Pakistan is punjab! whats new. They take all the resources from other provinces to enrich themselves, the army is mostly punjabi, why not cricketers?

  • kashif manzoor on August 13, 2010, 23:54 GMT

    AS I AGREE THAT IJAZ BUTT IS THE MAIN CULPRIT I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THE NOTION OF REGIONALISM.NOBODY SHOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM IN A TEAM TOTALLY REPRESENTED BY KARACHITIES AS LONG AS IT IS WINNING MATCHES. THAT IS IT.WHILE YOUNIS KHAN IS THE BEST CURRENT PLAYER (TECHNICALLY EVEN BETTER THAN YOUSUF),SAMI HAS NO PLACE IN THE SQUAD WHILE FAISAL WITH HIS EXPERIENCE DESERVES A PLACE IN THE ELEVEN.I CONFESS THAT PROVINCIAL BIAS CAN BE THERE BUT IN CRICKET IT JUST CANNOT SURVIVE AS INVOLVEMENT OF PAKISTANI NATION IN IT WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT

  • Ashfaq Ahmed Khan on August 13, 2010, 23:45 GMT

    I think Younis Khan is himself to blame for. He is talking about principles and all. He is simply stupid see Yousuf who didnt want to play in Ramadan and retires every now and then. See Shoaib Malik, get married to another celibirity and be in lime light. No need for performance.

  • Marlo on August 13, 2010, 23:31 GMT

    Faisal, Sami, Khurram, Kaneria ....non of these are good enough to play test matches. Younis Khan is the gentleman of pakistan cricket and a great player of cricket. Clowns like Ijaz Butt and Yawer Saeed are so low that they won't even reach younis' balls. Shoaib Malik and Imran Farhat should be sent home for ever and Kamran Akmal should only play limited overs game until he proves to be good with his gloves. Fawad Alam, Asad, Naved Yasin and Mohammad Irfan should be given a run to prove their game. Hassan Raza needs a new chance too after a good domestic season. Miandad, Bari, Mohsan all should go home too and do some other business. Ehsan Mani should be made chairman PCB, he is from Karachi but that should not be the reason for his appointment. Younis should captain Pakistan and any player against him should just be fired. We don't have a world class player except the bowlers so it won't be difficult to replace the gang members.

  • Junaid Siddiqi on August 13, 2010, 23:18 GMT

    Come on Kamran and others. Please read Mohsin Khan's response in DAWN news to these allegations of biased selection.

    http://www.dawn.com.pk/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/sport/impression-of-overlooking-karachi-players-baseless%2C-says-mohsin-khan-380

    Shahid Afridi a Karachi based captain and Mohsin Khan a Karachi based chielf selector selected a team from all available domestic players and here we are creating a new issue to fight between provinces. Cool down it is a game, main objective should be to enjoy your extra time and this should not lead you to these conspiracy theories of racism and ethinic split. Pakistan Zindabad

  • Shahid on August 13, 2010, 23:17 GMT

    continued from previous.....

    Said that about Faisal and Sami, I agree that Karachi has a case anyways because Imran Farhat and Shoaib Malik aren't different than Sami and Faisal. They have never performed regurly even if they have much higher averages than Faisal Iqbal. They are in the team just because of backing from corrupt Ijaz Butt.

    I think, the strongest case that karachi can present is only in batting department and that too for Younis and Fawad Alam. Fawad scored a century but then he didn't play a single innings of substance. But even then due to his stats from domestic arena, he should be given more chances. To be fair to Azhar Ali and Umar Amin, you should not compare people who have scored 50s while playing in subcontinent with these lads who have only played a couple of matches at venues where worlds best fast bowlers are operating in conditions which are even not easy for world best batsmen. Non of the two lads got a single chance to play an innings without overcast wea

  • Shahid on August 13, 2010, 23:06 GMT

    @MUSTAFA RIZVI, you can't justify your claims by giving wrong statistics. Faisal Iqbal did not score 4 fifties in last 5 test matches. He scored only 2. He last played two tests in australia where in 4 innings his batting average was 24. His overall average in 26 test matches is 26,70 and his average in 18 ODi is just 22,00. His only qualification for playing so many tests and ODi and hanging around and earning a lot of money is being related to Miandad.

    MOHAMAD SAMI, He has an bowling average of above 50 and he has taken 2,4 wickets per test. Any decent bowler will take around 4 wickets a match and average of 50 tells everything. He has played not less than 34 tests. Now look at other bowlers: Asif takes 5 wickets per match averaging 23, Gul takes close to 4 wickets per match averaging 33 and 18 year Amir takes 3,3 wickets per match at average of 33. Now where would you place Sami, in reserves? Would u go on with trying sami who is already tried for 10 years. No one will.continued..

  • IFTIKHAR Haider on August 13, 2010, 21:55 GMT

    Water Buffalo is right. All of you Younis Khan nut cases get over him and move on and learn to look ahead. The fact is Younis Khan has been dumping Pakistan cricket since 2007 even before this political revolt started again him. PCB and players lost confidence and I can just see why.

    I hate when people throw this averages crap to prove their points. Is Younis Khan a match winner.. NO.. How many games or test have Younis Khan won for us. Zero! His recent county records and his behaviour in public is a testament that the guy needs to hang his boots and gracefully retire.

  • Ghulam Ghaus on August 13, 2010, 21:37 GMT

    @ WaterBuffalo:

    There are 4 Pakistani batsmen with 50+ average in Tests:

    Javed Miandad Inzamam Ul Haqq Mohammaed Yousuf, and yes you guessed it... Younis Khan

    Younis Khan overrated?? i dont think so hes a warrior.

  • jamjam on August 13, 2010, 20:38 GMT

    Ijaz butt should leave cricket and do allah allah his only qualification is relation ship with Ch Mukhtar Both of them have made PCB a Tamasha like our country.Every time some thing happens we go and Beg

  • israraja on August 13, 2010, 20:37 GMT

    We all do not like the way BUTT is working but if you go in the history of Pak Cricket, there is no chairman who was not criticized for BAD SELECTION of the team.If team wins every thing is OK, if lose all is bad. As for Karachi/Lahore factor is concerned,if you last 3 years of T-20 Championship, it not Lahore or Karachi teams which are winning, teams form smaller centers like Faisalabad or Sailkot. So Pakistan Cricket is becoming game of small cities because boys of big cities do not play out door games, they play in door games and all the time sit in front of computer or holding their cell phones chatting or playing games. Writer has mentioned Hanif and Javed , I want to add Mushtaq Mohammad and Asif Iqbal to list of Karachi player, but writer can tell when last time Miandad played for Pakistan, after that what happened, all selectors are Punjab focused? Please do not see things as regional, I must see Kamran Abbassi must be from Karachi, why cricinfo is not hiring from another city.

  • Mahmood Saeed on August 13, 2010, 20:29 GMT

    Sad that even you should stoop. Sad indeed. We should only tout merit and that too with data.

  • wanderer on August 13, 2010, 20:15 GMT

    It's NOT ethnic chauvinism, look at the ethnic make-up of the Pakistani team and the players (even though most are Punjab based) they are ethincally quite diverse. IT'S REGIONALISM, and it's nothing new to sport in general. Some regions and clubs get preferencial treatment because of their history, following, money etc. In this regard Punjab (home to half of Pakistani's) is the bedrock of Pakistani cricket, and has produced disproportionately a lot of Pakistan's top players. Saying that the NWFP and Pashtuns get a decent look in nowadays, since Imran Khan, and Karachi has always been the second home of Pakistani cricket, but it is damaging that no representative from Karachi is playing in the current team. Is it chauvinism, not at all, even though some of the top Karachi players should be part of the squad, it's more down to the quality coming through from Punjab more than anything else, (although more should be invested in rural areas outside the Punjab to alleviate this).

  • AK on August 13, 2010, 20:07 GMT

    Mr. Syed Nayyar Uddin Ahmad. I am curious. What, in your opinion, makes Mr. Asad Umar, Chairman Engro Corporation a perfect replacement for Ijaz Butt?

    While we are on this topic, any other options on who should replace Ijaz Butt?

  • desihungama on August 13, 2010, 19:55 GMT

    @ Posted by: Azim at August 13, 2010 6:30 PM

    Azim - You are spot on!. Reason being Imran and Ramiz were both from same school that is Aithichison College in Lahore and it is a fact that Imran Khan had a disdain for Qasim Umer simply because he was Makrani. Imran Khan, though I love him as a Cricketer but is a known rasict and a biased person agains tanyone who is not punjabi/Pathan. He personally destroyed Umer's career and Asif Iqbal before that.

  • Ahsan on August 13, 2010, 19:29 GMT

    Karachi or Lahore, merit should prevail. Y.K stands a chance and should be brought in if he is willing. Ijaz butt, Umar Amin and Shoaib Malik should be axed regardless of their nativity but only for their performance.

  • Mansoor on August 13, 2010, 19:05 GMT

    Mr Abbasi wrote facts but ppl who do not agree with him are giving biased arguments. I am a Pakistani (born in Punjab)and I support only those players who deserve to be in Pakistan Cricket team, no matter where they are from. It is interesting to read replies in which some ppl are trying to prove that Younis, Fawad, Sarfaraz, Asim, Y Hameed, Sami etc do no deserve a place in the team. OK. Then justify the repeated selection of certain blue eyed players/clowns for example: AKMAL brothers, SHOAIB MALIK,IMRAN FARHAT, SALMAN BUTT. Do their suppoerters know their test averages???? Or their history of dropped catches?? Do they know there behaviours? eg oath on holy book for disobedience??? Umar Amin and Asad Safique were considered for selection at the same time, but Umar Amin is still in the team after many failures, but where is Asad? I think it is more a PARCHEE problem, which might have coincedently bacome a provisional issue.

  • nz on August 13, 2010, 19:04 GMT

    sami!! r u kidding me. Even crickinfo did an article on his stats and he is the worse bowler ever. Kanerias performance was the cause of him being axed. As for Younis he is a good player and definitely if he changes his childish ways should be back in the team.

  • Mustafa Rizvi on August 13, 2010, 18:52 GMT

    Those who think that Faisal Iqbal should not be in the team must be fooling themselves. He scored 4 fifties in last 5 test matches that he played in. Even in those matches, the poor guy was brought in as a replacement player. This is height of injustice to such a talent player like Faisal Iqbal. On the other hand, Umar Ukmal has played 4 test matches this summer without even crossing 30 runs. Shoaib Malik 3 test matches with a highest of 38. Umar Amin 4 matches with a highest of 30. Imran Farhat scored only one 50 after given so many by drop chances by the Australians. And lastly, the captain (BUTT) himself failed miserably in the last 3 matches. Come on guys if these many chances are provided to Faisal, Fawad, Sami, Anwer Ali and Sarfaraz then they would be a permanent fixture in this Pakistan side. PCB authority, please open your eyes and give the deserving players the chance to blossom which is what Pakistan Cricket needs right now.

  • Zain Nadeem on August 13, 2010, 18:38 GMT

    Guys don't blame PCB or our selection committe because we all knew that they are biased. We should blame KCCA why they took soo long to raise their voice against this open discirmination. We should blame all Ex Karachi test cricketers who are still not supporting their own city boys.

  • Saad Hasan on August 13, 2010, 18:34 GMT

    Besides Fawad Alam and Younis Khan, a youngster Asad Shafiq from Karachi scored twice as many runs as both Umar Amin and Azhar Ali in the 09/10 Quaid-e-Azam Trophy, but didn't find himself in the squad to England.

    2009-2010 QEA Averages Poor Karachi players not in squad Asad Shafiq (KhiB) 11 20 3 1104 147* 64.94 Fawad Alam (NBP) 4 6 1 418 154* 83.60

    Punjab Players in squad despite poor performance Umar Amin (NBP) 10 15 1 512 147 36.57 Azhar Ali (KRL) 10 17 2 445 153* 29.66

  • h.khan on August 13, 2010, 18:31 GMT

    PLEASE GET RID OF THAT PIECE OF RUBBISH..MR.BUTT..

    I HOPE THIS MESSAGE GETS TO U..U R DESTROYING PAKSITAN CRCIKET..U R HURTING THE FANS, MAKING THEM SUFFER..

    U GREEDY, ARRAOGANT, MAN....

  • Azim on August 13, 2010, 18:30 GMT

    Ramiz has only two centuries in his long Test carrier but Qasim Umer was dropped with two double centuries in a very short carrier? We know Umer was far better player than Ramiz. Ramiz kept on getting chances even when he was not able to through from the boundary later he became captain? Now you know how Inzi became captain? Such discriminations kept Pakistan away from the services of deserving players like Umer. How many Test Basit played? Aftab Blooch? Taslim Arif? Amin Lakhani? Atiq urRehman?.. Present & planed discriminations against Karachi – Younus, Hasan Raza, Asim, Fawad, Faisal; they are better batsmen than the current batsmen from Lahore. If Lahore had produce batsmen like Hanif, Javed, Zahir, Mushtaq, Asif, Taslim, Saeed, Basit, Mohsin... Then there is no objection the objection is Lahore pushing non deserving players & standing firm this support should be for the deserving players of Karachi such support will end discrimination & bring the healthy revelry with the cities.

  • Zahid on August 13, 2010, 18:15 GMT

    @desihungama point well made! im from Australia, dont have any connections with Pakistan whatsoever except that some of my friends are from Pakistan. And that the nature of the beast is such in Pakistan cricket that for years I've been following them. going back to desihungama's comments, i was at the test match in syd when Mohammed Sami played, he was in top form.. sure they had given him prior opportunities and he had failed but finally he was delivering. Next test, he gets dropped! My two cents, presently Mohammed Sami is better then Umar Gul. Who cares about the past, play the guys who are in form now! Yasir Hamid, Younis Khan, Mo Yousuf..bloody bring Inzy back ..these guys are all better then Farhat,Amin,Malik and Ali..hands down. anyone care to argue that point? Oh,& the 2 Butts gotta go!, one a fat virus thats plaguing your country's cricket and one who cant score runs while captaining! & Mr.Abbasi,although some bias is evident this is not a regional issue. KEEP PEACE GUYS

  • Haidery on August 13, 2010, 18:11 GMT

    Even though I think this Punjabi influence in selection holds weight, I still expect you Kamran to reflect on bigger issues. Removal of Ijaz Butt is ofcourse the issue here that will solve all these problems but you get my point..

    I enjoy watching thousands of comments after each of your article..and you have following from Karachiites, Lahoris, Pathans and every ethnicity. And it just makes me proud to be a Pakistani as we all discuss in one forum who should open the batting, bowling, and what not, claiming to be the best critics out there :) I'm from Karachi but 'Butt' is my boy when he leads my team. Similarly Afridi is my boy when he leads, Gul the pathan is our boy when he fires those swinging yorkers! And I support all of them.

    Cricket brings us together like very few things in life. In comments,a Punjabi fighting for Fawad's place and a Karachiite rooting for Akmal's inclusion without giving a thought on where they are from is what makes me a proud Pakistani!!

  • Nadeem Farooq on August 13, 2010, 17:56 GMT

    @Syed Banoori

    According to Mr. Banoori that Faisal, Danish and Raza had enough chanced to prove themselves. Mr Banoori could you pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee elaborate Imran Farhat, Kamran Akmal, Shoaib Malik and even Salman Butt chances? Kamran Akmal droped hundreds of catches but he is still playing, Tell me how many more chance Imran Farhat and Shoaib Malik needs?

    This is typical punjab mentality that they never accept their mistakes they never realize that because of their arrogant attitude they already divided this country. They were taught a lesson by the Bengalis and if they continue doing this then the next lesson would be not too far.

  • Samir on August 13, 2010, 17:54 GMT

    Out of all the players you declared as victims only Yk has a solid case and that too not because of his form only because he was discriminated.

    On the basis of form there is nothing that he has done in last 15 months that would justify his selection.

    Karachiites have habit of moaning about victimization, where were they when there super hero deserted the team in the middle of the tour, they should go and ask him why he didnt picked Sarfraz Ahmed and Fawad.

    Only a fool who has no knowledge of cricket will make a case for Kaneria, Sami, Lateef and Khurram these guys have proved time and again that they are third class players and consistent failures.

    Just because the team lost two matches in a row doesn't make these pathetic players virgin again they would have also failed and it is extremely hypothetical to assume otherwise.

  • Shahid on August 13, 2010, 17:52 GMT

    All of them are Ijaz Butts, specially Miandad. He was a good player but he is the worst in cricket administration and coaching.

    Except Younis, karachi can only say, "why not select our low standard batsmen instead of low standard batsmen from punjab". Karachi has not produced a world class batsman for years now.

  • Anupam on August 13, 2010, 17:39 GMT

    Just think the amount of pressure will Yousuf be in at this moment, people are hoping that he will turn things around for Pakistan. I agree that is a good cricketer but my only concern is that he has no match practise...While people like Shoib malik should be dropped I really liked him as a cricketer but he has dissappointed me and all of us with his performence.

  • Faisal Taquie on August 13, 2010, 17:33 GMT

    Imran Farhat from Lahore gets into the Pakistan side, while Younis Kahn from Peshawar with a commendable test average and Fawad Alam with a gritty hundred do not get a chance. Something is wrong in this picture somewhere.

    The first step to remedy a problem is to accept the problem exists. If you are not accepting the ethnic tensions in Pakistan, then you are living in a kokoo land or abroad!!

  • Sami on August 13, 2010, 17:21 GMT

    I am from Karachi, and I believe Fawad Alam (FC average 55.98) and Hasan Raza (FC average 49.41 with 34 centuries) deserve to be in the test team ahead of Azhar Ali (FC average 38.45) and Umar Amin (FC Average 37.60). Nothing against Punjab. Punjabis are our brothers in Islam and we are all Pakistanis. But, team should be selected on merit not based on personal likings.

  • Hassan on August 13, 2010, 17:04 GMT

    Rashid Latif recommended Zulqarnain Haider, just as an FYI

  • Mashood on August 13, 2010, 16:58 GMT

    Most Karachi based cricketers are failures. Mohd. Sami is a useless fast bowler, Kaneria has always been backed even though for the last 4 years he has been utterly useless, Faisal Iqbal is a hole in the middle order and Younis Khan barely represents Karachi, he even plays for Peshawar in the regional cup. But in this squad I still think Fawwad Alam should have gotten in, I mean the guy averages 55 in First Class cricket, not picking him seems to indicate the selectors have absolutely no faith in their own domestic system.

  • desihungama on August 13, 2010, 16:58 GMT

    I am from Punjab and I shamefully admit that the team combination simply stinks. More or less a Punjabi Cricket Board that is PCB. But this whole sorry chapter of provincialism dates back to late 70's and infact started with Asif Iqbal when Punjabi members lead by Imran Khan refused to play under Asif's captaincy. Inzamam took it to the next level by sidelining any and all players from Karachi, Asim Kamal being the prime example. Poor lad, he refused to take "Baiat" from Inzi and was conveniently sidelined. I can only imagine how deadly Mohd. Sami would have been in overcast English conditions. He is in his prime. Bowlers do not stay in their prime forever. Play Sami while he is in his prime.

  • Adnan on August 13, 2010, 16:57 GMT

    It's not a matter of how many Karachi players are in the team at any given time. It's about how long a leash they get when they do get selected. Anyone can fail in a match or two. It's when you see constant support for certain favorites (Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal) and a hundred foot high bar for others (Fawad Alam, Asim Kamal) that eyebrows are raised.

  • Syed Nayyar Uddin Ahmad on August 13, 2010, 16:52 GMT

    Honourable Mr. Asif Ali Zardari.

    Honourable Makhdoom Yousuf Raza Gillani.

    A.O.A.

    The dismal state of Pakistan cricket must be fully in your knowledge. The one and only reason for malaise of Pakistan cricket is the utter failure and mismanagement of the affairs by the PCB, which is incidentally headed by the most incompetent man in the annuls of the history of Pakistan Cricket.

    As such, It is high time for President Asif Ali Zardari & PM Makdoom Yousuf Raza Gillani to accept the popular demand of the general public for immediately removing the Chairman PCB. This decision will give tremendous relief from the daily agony of Pakistan cricket, being touching one low after the other.

    The nation has seen enough of TAMASHA of Pakistan cricket starting from NZ/AUS tour, to this day in England series. If the chairman PCB possesses any semblance of self dignity, he should himself resign, knowing fully well, that currently, he is the most un-popular person in the country, bringing bad name to the PPP government.

    And the ideal person for the next appointment as Chairman PCB, will be Mr. Asad Umar, Chairman Engro Corporation.

    With kind regards and best wishes,

  • AK on August 13, 2010, 16:49 GMT

    Please do not spin the opinion that Ijaz Butt is incompetent and has a pro Punjabi bias into a Punjab vs Sind argument. Pointing out that an individual has a tendency to favor Punjabi players does not have to be blown out of proportion into a probable cause for national division. On the contrary, unless people share what they believe, and why, no fruitful dialogue can occur. Because of Butt’s actions all Punjabis cannot be accused of bias and do not have to defend him, agree with him, or feel guilty for his deeds. The bottom line is what is the best for the National team. I’ll bet most Punjabis would prefer a winning national team with less Punjabi representation over the current one.

  • pat on August 13, 2010, 16:48 GMT

    Doesn't this entire discussion presume that Ijaz Paininthe Butt has the mental capacity to notice that nearly all the squad comes from one part of the country?

  • s a h naqvi on August 13, 2010, 16:46 GMT

    Someone said that younus khan is over rated.I may remind him that there are two triple centurians in Pakistan tests Inzi and Younus khan,while india has one that is Sehwag.

  • Mian Gul Muhammed on August 13, 2010, 16:41 GMT

    The problem is Mr. Butt & Co. Talent is available but the management/selecters are failing to spot the talent. Problem remains who is going to remore Mr. Butt? I dont see Mr. Zardari doing it. If he does that then what about him as he is worst than Mr. Butt. All we do is pray "Allah Talah humarey haal pe reham farmiay". Ameen.

  • Yawar on August 13, 2010, 16:31 GMT

    What about Shahzaib Hasan. It may appear that he does not have the temperament for test cricket. But based on the raw talent he has in the form of eyesight, reflexes and strength, an effort should be made to groom him and develop him as a test cricketer as well.

    I would not rate Sami higher than Asif, Umer or Amir, but he is head and shoulders above Wahab Riaz. I have not seen Tanvir Ahmed perform so I cannot say anything about him.

    I am also against including token players from Karachi, the likes of Faisal Iqbal and others. But exclusion of talents like Asim Kamal in the past and Shahzaib Hasan now should not happen.

    As far as Shoib Malik is concerned, although he was a very good player, after going through the fan fare of his marriage, I dont expect him to perform to any standards in the future.

    Also, Younis and Yousuf both need to be there instead of Azher Ali and Umer Amin.

    But whatever the team is I hope they refrain from "big talk" and respect the opposition.

  • Jonnywishbone on August 13, 2010, 16:11 GMT

    waterbuffalo:

    Younis Khan is overrated?

    There is no need for me to absorb anything else you've written as clearly you are cerebrally challenged, at least with respect to your ability to judge batting talent.

  • Syed Banoori on August 13, 2010, 16:01 GMT

    I dont understand why are people keep bringing the names of Hasan Raza, Dinesh Kaneria, Faisal Iqbal? They had enough chanced to prove themselves and if they did, too bad for them. I dont have any sympathy for the guys i mentioned above but i must admit that its unfair with Younis Khan, Asim Kamal and Fawad Alam.

    Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee stop mentioning Faisal,Diensh and Raza. I beg you all....

  • imran on August 13, 2010, 15:32 GMT

    firstly, there is bias, it takes an exceptionally short-sighted person to not agree with that but there are also exceptions.

    i dont know what asad shafiq has to do to get in the team, i really dont. you can argue similarly for fawad alam and i am a huge fan but they never give him a run in the team, he is played for a game or two and then dropped despite doing reasonably well. younis khan needs to be in the team although i dont know why everyone is raving about kaneria, he hasnt played well against australia or england and has always been expensive. he has bucketloads of wickets against bangladesh but against the top teams he cannot perform and is a liability. performing at county level is no excuse for his continued inclusion in the team.

    sami is useless, we all know that, he simply doesnt have a cricketing brain or know how to work a batsman out and should not be in the test team, he is much more of a one day bowler.

    we as a nation and as a cricket team deserve better

  • dmqi on August 13, 2010, 15:32 GMT

    Forget about the Karachi-Pnajabi issue, just see the world's reaction at Pakistan cricket, from A to Z everyone is making fun of PCB and the selectors, Captain. Is it not enough that a veteran parliamentarian has asked for the removal of the PCB chair? Is Pakistan not a 2nd/3rd rated team now. So is there a problem in the management? If so, why there has not been a change in last one year after millions called for a change? The arrogant Punjabis were taught a lesson by the Bengalis, creating Bangladesh. Now they will learn from Beluchis, Pathans, sindhis and others. They simply deserve that. Sorry, Mr. Zaheer Abbas and people like those good punjabees.

  • Naeem Husain on August 13, 2010, 15:19 GMT

    Pakistan's Cricket Control Board is the main problem. It needs immidiate overhaul to save cricket in Pakistan.Get rid of those incompetents Board members from from top to bottom.The current tour of England is an example of their incompetecy. Poor selection of players when sevreal talented playrs were left out. Example of their poor judmnet is Danish Kaneria has been made scape goat and got the axed. It was the bating line up that failed. Why Kaneria? Dropping catches and stumping chances on Kaneria's bowling was his downfall. Are we fair? Every body blame him foe out of form. Technically the problem is with the batting performance of the inexperienced players picked up for the TEST level while ignoring the recognised batsmen. from Karachi, Lahore etc. Selection of the cricketers should be based on merit regadrless their region or religon.If we get hooked on to regionalism then their will be no cricketleft in Pakistan. Pakistan is full of telented players in evry reigion.

  • Wazirabadi on August 13, 2010, 15:17 GMT

    I am disappointed by your insinuation and remarks on the composition of the Pakistan cricket team. I always enjoy reading your column, on this occasion you are out of line. You are trying to create controversy and further weaken the team . Pakistan cricket team is in total disarray and it need sane heads and our support to put them back on track. Your Sindi President have given the rain of the PCB to an idiot whose blunders continue to amaze me. The case of Younis Khan is mind boggling, equally illogical is the call for Mullah Yousaf. Don’t know why people like Hasan Raza, Faisal Iqbal and Asim Kamal have been ignored. Even the aging MIsbah-Ul-Haq would have been more useful.

  • syed a h naqvi on August 13, 2010, 15:13 GMT

    can anybody name the cricketer who scored 168 as an opener in a test match for Pakistan not against bangla desh or Zembabve but against Srilanka recently but is being considered 50/20 over player.Presently players like Umeramin and Azharali are playing for Pakistan whose last six test innings speak for themselves.Their merits maybe the places they were born or their relatives or good connections. It is declared to be a young side.Can we make it a bit more younger so that every player scores atleast a ZERO.

  • Mohammad Asad on August 13, 2010, 15:05 GMT

    Mohammad Asad from USA........

    Guys...Please think about Pak Cricket future !!! Please do not bring Regional Politics into Cricket.... I am a good fan of Pak Cricket....Though I am Bangladeshi......

    Yeah !! I. Butt should be removed ASAP because of his dictator like action / arrogance / does not care anyone / fully failure of all his decision.....

    Thank you Mr. AMMAR for your comment ... Guys Mr. Ammar's comment is good to resolve the Karachi - Lahore conflict............

  • Yasser on August 13, 2010, 14:57 GMT

    This is nothing more than "Politics" being played by the Karachi Cricket association. These are the players they want included in the team: Khurram Manzoor, Khalid Lateef, Mohammad Sami, Faisal Iqbal and Fawad Alam. Of all the players, Fawad Alam is the only one who deserves a place in the team. His non-selection has more to do with Ijaz Butt's idiocy than Fawad's ethnicity. As poorly as they have performed, Azhar Ali and Umar Amin definitely look better long-term prospects than Khurram, Khalid and Faisal Iqbal. MOhammad Sami and Faisal Iqbal have had many chances and have never grabbed them. There is no doubt that Ijaz Butt needs to be removed immediately. The reasons, however, need to be cricketing rather than political. Congratulations Mr Abbasi! You have once again misread the situation and made an issue out of a non-issue.

  • Shamsi on August 13, 2010, 14:48 GMT

    Hi...

    This is fact that there are some issues in selection, when i read the origin of current players @ the start of the tour i realized it is not Pakistan XI but Punjab XI. Fawad alam is the most ignored player, who has been with the team for so long but bot getting any chance to play, he is a terrific fielder and a smart left arm spinner, he also scored a test century against srilanka in his debut test. and asiam kamal, i've not seen player of his caliber around in past few years. he is the one of many karachi cricketers who are wasted by PCB.

  • PoorPakCricketFan on August 13, 2010, 14:47 GMT

    there has been hundred of petitions, notices and cases filed in court in every field of life against such people in Pakistan.

    is there no one who can file some petitions, cases, notices or anything against PCB and it management? So that at least there is some pressure on someone to do something about it?

    is this not a case of integrity and pride of the nation cricket which has become a laughing stack all over the world?

    no one?

  • jamal on August 13, 2010, 14:37 GMT

    Why was khurram manzoor dropped after being the highest scorer for pakistan at hobart ? Asad shafiq was included in the Asia cup squad but even before being tried, he was dropped from the squad for England. He got his only chance in Asia Cup after being ommitted already for the next tour. Similarly Fawad Alam was the highest scorer for Pakistan in the one day series in Australia. And then randomly discarded. He should have been in the test team. Sarfraz Ahmad is another case in point. It is random selections like these whih produces accusations of discrimination, even if it is not deliberate.

  • fahad khan on August 13, 2010, 14:32 GMT

    Even though Zulqurnain haider did well, why was he selected in the first place ahead of karachi based sarfraz ahmed ? Sarfraz got just one chance and then discarded for no reason. Statistically, sarfraz has a much better batting and keeping record in first class cricket than zulqurnain. A first class average of close to 45 with a 50+ score once every third innings. And five times more stumpings in half the number of matches compared with zulqurnain. While I admire the guts shown by the new keeper, he clearly is not a natural when keeping to spinners (two dropped catches of ajmal). The omission of sarfraz was extremely unfair and random. And i say this as a punjabi from lahore.

  • Falak on August 13, 2010, 14:30 GMT

    It's a shame to expect such an article from your side. I see it an attempt to divide the Pakistan nation. Literally, I couldn't agree more with the fact that Ijaz Butt has made the mess of PCB and should be thrown out. But your rotten article is emphasizing on including players like Fawad Alam, Khuram Manzoor, Mohammad Sami, Danish Kaneria etc, who were given plenty of opportunities at international arena but they failed to impress every time.

  • Ahmed on August 13, 2010, 14:23 GMT

    Mr. Waterbuffalo, Apparently you are from Punjab too thats why you dont want to accept the truth.Can you please justify the selection of Kamran Akmal aka Dattu? Can you please elaborate on how many catches he has dropped? How many games he has cost us? finally he was dropped but he would be back before you know it! who replaced him? the guy from LAHORE thats right! if you remember sarfraz ahmed was 1st choice , guess what he is from Karachi!. Now our captain Salman Butt who is also another lovely Butt! , Please elaborate on his average? 32? thats pretty darn good right ? Butt = Punjab, Next in line is Imran Farhat , we all know why he is in the team ! , Can you please explain why was Asim kamal Dropped? Karachi guy ! , Shoaib Malik ? Please explain why is he in the team ? Punjab Again ! So i would suggest that you come out of your dream world. PCB is indeed Punjab Cricket Board... they have never given a fair chance to Karachi players , so please dont give us Cr*p about growing up !

  • Burhan on August 13, 2010, 14:08 GMT

    Waterbuffalo, your reaction more or less sums up Pakistan's approach to Pakistan along with cricket. Very emotional with less logic and substance. For example you say Younis Khan is over-rated in test matches, please have a look at his overall average along with average away from home in test cricket. Amusingly enough since you ask disdainfully what Affridis Test batting average is, its 36.5. Not to suggest he should be asked to come back since he has retired twice but to build on my opening statement that you should remove emotions from arguments. Fact is why choose Yousuf when he hasnt played any competitive cricket and retired over Younus who is currently playing county cricket in England! It has to be a bit of bias dont you think?

  • Zain Nadeem on August 13, 2010, 14:07 GMT

    This is the clear case of discirmination, Karachi is the Quid-e-Azam trophy champion and not a single player in the team represent Karachi. Tell me why Imran Farhat, Shoaib Malik & Kamran Akmal are getting selection all the time? Why Umer Amin, Umer Akmal, and Azhar Ali in this team are they more talented than Hasan Raza, Fawad Alam, Faisal Iqbal or Asad Shafique? How many runs they made in last Quid-e-Azam trophy? Is Kamran Akmal is better keeper then Sarfarz Ahmed?

    Kamran Akmal drops hunderds of catches and stumps but he is still in the team, on the other hand Kaneria did not bowl well in one game and he is completly out of the team... is this fair?

    If you still think that this fair selection, then please don't call this as a Pakistan Team call it Punjab Eleven / Dugga Eleven.

  • EAMiran on August 13, 2010, 14:05 GMT

    While bone head Butt Sr. needs to be removed immediately it is disappointing to note that provincialism should be bought to the fore as a reason for removal. There are "sifarshis" in the team - there is cronyism, corruption, nepotism galore within the PCB, but outright provincialism. I doubt it. This is the team that Afridi, along with the selectors, chose. At the time he had already hinted at doing away with the old and bringing in the new. Now that the clown prince has retired from test cricket and the new have been exposed in brutal fashion, provincialism is the excuse. While Malik, Farhat, Akmal Sr. should be banished from the test arena, are Kaneria, Faisal Iqbal, and Sami (averages 50 per wkt in tests!) the right replacements as some voices lead us to believe? The only cricketer who should justifiably be aggrieved is Fawad Alam, a character who has the grit required for test cricket. If Afridi had any sense he would have batted for him - but didn't. Complain about that!

  • cadet018 on August 13, 2010, 13:54 GMT

    I belong to Karachi, born here, spent my life here and i m a big fan of Pak Spin. Having said that, I found this entry quite disturbing. I agree that Selection is not up to mark, it might even be biased, but saying that biasness is based on ethnicity is ridicules. I don't think "Younis" is out cuz he is a Karachiite, or Danish Kaneria shouldn't be dropped because there was no other Karachiite in team. Its a testing time for Pakistan .. and such articles based on speculation will only divide our nation further.

  • MJN on August 13, 2010, 13:50 GMT

    I agree with Kamran's final comment. Butt must be removed immediately before Pakistan cricket and hopes for a team that can once again pride itself and compete with the best nations is completely destroyed. I dont care about the Karachi/lahore divide, and I dont know much about it as I am a British born fan, but it saddens me the way this team is so badly managed. WHY CANT YOUNIS KHAN PLAY IN THE NEXT TEST? beacuse an overwweight ogre currently managing the PCB is only thinking about himself and not the nation and cricket's future in Pakistan. Something has to be done soon!

  • Sohaib on August 13, 2010, 13:44 GMT

    While im not a fan of butt sahab i have to deplore the lack of objective rational thought in this article. Which karachi player would you pick? kaneria was shambles in his opportunities so far, faisal iqbal has been given countless chances he just does not have the temperament, afridi was captain of test team (didnt even deserve it yet was there so where was the bias there?), younis khan only deserves to be there if for the fact that yousaf has also been recalled however two wrongs dont make a right. The only justifiable case could be that for fawad alam who scored a courageous century as opener in sri lanka and i am sure he will get his chances in later tours.

    finally suppose butt had been removed before the tour started would the squad composition be changed much? no! player talent pool is in such a way at this point that the team composition is what it is. accept it and stop giving wind to pointless accusations through irresponsible journalism

  • sunny on August 13, 2010, 13:42 GMT

    i absolutely agree with kamran abbasi. the selection is surely not on merit. anyone who has been following the domestic cricket would know that. asad shafiq who is one of the highest run getter in this domestic season is not in the side while azhar ali and umer ameen who just have 4 hundred runs in this season have played 4 test matches. other examples of bias are players like faisal iqbal, khurum manzoor, fawad aalam, sarfaraz ahmad and muhammad sami. all these players deserved to play for Pakistan but as long as people like ijaz butt and yawar saeed are in the board, merit will never be a preference.

  • Usman Bashir on August 13, 2010, 13:35 GMT

    As much as we all hate Butt but i should point out clearly KCCA is just playing power politics here. Pakistan's cricket is based more upon "Parchi'sm" rather then regional support. Please please kamran dont follow their flow as it will leade furtehr divided nation. consider Younis case, it's nothing to do with Karachi based, Younis and Ijaz have their own issues and we all aware of that. Similarly there are few players in karachi team which might deserve a place but it hs never been a regional issue its just mere poor selections (or Parchi/Napotism based) thats all , i hope you understand what i am trying to say here

  • Sarmad on August 13, 2010, 13:30 GMT

    Well its a shame that the Karachi brothers have understood it wrongly.I know the team is not performing but its not fair to drag provincialism in it.The only two players who deserve to be in the team are Fawad Alam and Younus Khan and May be Danish in the squad but its not the fault of Punjab.Balochistan is not protesting and neither is KPK.Butt needs to be removed but rather than blaming punjabis the karchi people should ask the president whom thhey have elected unanimously to take action and remove Butt

  • SZA on August 13, 2010, 13:28 GMT

    Pathetic column, people like the writer actually the one who creates differences among nation.

    I believe Fwawad Alam and sarfarz has the case for selection, but i am happy for zulqarnain who played very well for pakistan. Still Fawad Alam should have been in the side.

    Yes Younis Khan who plays for Peshawar should have been selected for tests, " only tests as he averages mere 15 in his appearances in IDI's since start of 2009

    Muhammad Sami- Pathetic record same as this column.

    So the individuals who should have been selected are Fawad and younis for tests and fawad in ODIs

    For writer, we are already passing though difficult times, come out of your narrowness.

    Younis is not played for karachi he played for Peshawar ... so don,t exaggerate and dont create differences.

    Yes you can highlight individuals who are better players so they can be selected for upcoming series, but stop THIS PUNJABI AND SINDI FUSS

  • Adeel Suhail Jafrani on August 13, 2010, 13:18 GMT

    when my country is already struggling to cope up with so many internal issues like flood, leadership etc. Last thing i want to read about was provincialism and regionalism in cricket. Unfortunately we have to live with few facts in our cricket. 1)president choosing chairman of the PCB. 2)Parliament who dont have anything to do with cricket are questioning cricketers on there performance 3)i heard many x-cricketers or expert saying, once yousuf is in the side, he should be the captain, since he is the senior most player. He is already tried, tested and failed. I agree Salman is not the best captain. But he is the best choice right now. Because if u wanne invest for 2yrs in someone to become a good captain, than invest in someone young, so after that he can serve ur country for next 6yrs.About the article on top, these will come when we loose. How many Punjabi players were in 1992 World Cup team. Spain won the WC with 7+ players from one club.

    Thanks

  • Syed Banoori on August 13, 2010, 13:08 GMT

    @ waterbuffalo I agree with you that Afridi and Sami doesnt deserve place in the test team but what about Yasir Hameed and Fawad Alam? do you think Malik and Imran Farhat deserve to be in the team? Dont you think Yasir and Alam should be given chances instead of Malik and Farhat?

    I agree Younis refused to Captain several times but do you the his reason? you and i(i am 100% sure) would have done the same. If you have any integrity and self respect you refuse to play when 7 out 11 players on your team including senior players like Malik,Yosuf,Rana,Akmal brothers and Yawer Saeed(Team Manager) take Oath on Quran to underperform and to bring you down.

    I dont think PCB is biased against any province, they just favour certain palyers not because they are from punjab but becasue they are backed related to former cricketers and politicians). Nothing will make this Pakistan team any better unless you axe losers like Ijaz Butt,Yawer Saeed and Wasim Bari

  • umar on August 13, 2010, 13:07 GMT

    Dr Kamran again an articul full of it, if no krachi player is good enough or at some disagreement then why should they be selected, ONLY YK merits a place, the rest dont even cut it

  • Fawwaz Ali on August 13, 2010, 13:06 GMT

    Fawad Alam's continued exclusion is quite baffling. He has the highest FC average of all current pakistani batsmen, not to mention a brilliant hundred on debut..

    He would have fared much better than Azhar Ali or Umar Amin. He deserves his place after a few seasons of averaging over 50.

    Give him a chance!

  • karachiwala on August 13, 2010, 12:58 GMT

    This is not true - Balochistan, Sindh (excluding Karachi), and Kashmir do not have any great cricket talent. If there was, they would have been selected. Karachi players like Fawad Alam (not consistent on international stage), Mohammed Sami, Danish Kaneria and Khurram Manzoor have been given plenty of chances but haven't impressed.

    Currently only KP and Punjab are producing talented cricketers. We all know this. Nobody can replace Mohammed Aamir, Umar Akmal (in limited overs), Umar Gul, and Saeed Ajmal.

  • Atif on August 13, 2010, 12:44 GMT

    K. Abbassi Sb,

    I would also like to draw your attention to lack of Representation given to Azad Kashmir in domestic cricket of Pakistan. Don't you think it is a gross injustice. Wouldn't a writer like yourself like to draw attention of the authorities to this issue?

  • Ammar on August 13, 2010, 12:41 GMT

    Ijaz Butt is a clown and not a funny one at that. He should be removed. I dont agree with the argument here that Karachi players are being ignored. Shahid Afridi retired, Kaneria is hopelessly out of form, Sami has no chance of being in the squad in place of Amir, Asif and Gul. Faisal Iqbal hasn't done much with the opportunities he's got. Hassan Raza a complete failure at international level. Younis Khan is out not because he is a Karachi based player but because of his personal issues with the above mentioned clown. To top it all chief selector Mohsin Khan is from Karachi. Selcetion should be on merit not to appease some regional cricket associations. Just an fyi I am from Karachi before anyone accuses me of regional bias.

  • Atif on August 13, 2010, 12:34 GMT

    waterbuffalo,

    YK did not want the captaincy; if we ignore the intrigue of players, the increasingly political role of Yawar Saeed who needlessly raised alarms over match fixing and is the reason behind YK's ouster and the threatening calls of people after WC07, and still label YK for not accepting CAPTAINCY, how does that make YK ineligible for selection as a PLAYER?

    Sami did well in swinging conditions in Australia (Sydney) and is still more useful than Wahab Riaz (14 wickets in 6 domestic matches).

    By the way i am a kashmiri+punjabi.

  • Dr Zeeshan Shah on August 13, 2010, 12:32 GMT

    I think Karachi Cricket Association's response is slightly out of proportion. However, they do have a case especially regarding bewildering exclusion of Younis Khan who deserved to be in the team prior to Yousif and in some extent for Sami who did perform to high standards in the Australian tour and still wasn't considered. I don't agree with the calls for inclusion of Faisal Iqbal, Kaneria and others. Kaneria had his chance and failed to make any impact. Asim Kamal is one other player who I would have liked to see in the squad but obviously he doesn't have enough connections. Kamram you are spot on about Butt though. I don't think anyone could have done it better. Well said and I completely agree with your views on him and PCB.

  • Nasir on August 13, 2010, 12:28 GMT

    @waterbuffalo Seems like you are from punjab. lol. Younis is overrated if you are comparing him with Tendulkar and Ponting but he is the best when you compare him with Pakistani batsmen. I agree with you Kamran Abbasi. PCB Administration needs to be changed. I still remember when there were like three four Pashto speaking players (most of them played for Karachi) my Punjabi friends used to call it Pathan Cricket team. This team represent the whole nation it should only be based on talent.

  • Nadeem Kureshi on August 13, 2010, 12:20 GMT

    Good article. Just note that Younis Khan is a Peshawar based cricketer, no Karachi based. (This makes your case no weaker though)

  • waterbuffalo on August 13, 2010, 11:56 GMT

    While I agree that provincialism and regionalism is deplorable, if a guy says he does not want to captain Pakistan, not once, but twice, why should anyone pick him? Did Inzy ever say he didn't want to play for Pakistan? No. Yousuf? No, he was sacked, as for Afridi who cares? what is his average in Test Cricket? Younis Khan is over-rated, and acts like a clown on the field and a baby off it. As for Sami, are you kidding? Aamer, Asif, and Gul are miles better than him. If I told my captain I did not want to play, I'd be dropped for the whole season. Pakistan has been cught up in this Karachi/Lahore debate since the 70's , since before Imran became captain, don't you think it is time to grow up?

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  • waterbuffalo on August 13, 2010, 11:56 GMT

    While I agree that provincialism and regionalism is deplorable, if a guy says he does not want to captain Pakistan, not once, but twice, why should anyone pick him? Did Inzy ever say he didn't want to play for Pakistan? No. Yousuf? No, he was sacked, as for Afridi who cares? what is his average in Test Cricket? Younis Khan is over-rated, and acts like a clown on the field and a baby off it. As for Sami, are you kidding? Aamer, Asif, and Gul are miles better than him. If I told my captain I did not want to play, I'd be dropped for the whole season. Pakistan has been cught up in this Karachi/Lahore debate since the 70's , since before Imran became captain, don't you think it is time to grow up?

  • Nadeem Kureshi on August 13, 2010, 12:20 GMT

    Good article. Just note that Younis Khan is a Peshawar based cricketer, no Karachi based. (This makes your case no weaker though)

  • Nasir on August 13, 2010, 12:28 GMT

    @waterbuffalo Seems like you are from punjab. lol. Younis is overrated if you are comparing him with Tendulkar and Ponting but he is the best when you compare him with Pakistani batsmen. I agree with you Kamran Abbasi. PCB Administration needs to be changed. I still remember when there were like three four Pashto speaking players (most of them played for Karachi) my Punjabi friends used to call it Pathan Cricket team. This team represent the whole nation it should only be based on talent.

  • Dr Zeeshan Shah on August 13, 2010, 12:32 GMT

    I think Karachi Cricket Association's response is slightly out of proportion. However, they do have a case especially regarding bewildering exclusion of Younis Khan who deserved to be in the team prior to Yousif and in some extent for Sami who did perform to high standards in the Australian tour and still wasn't considered. I don't agree with the calls for inclusion of Faisal Iqbal, Kaneria and others. Kaneria had his chance and failed to make any impact. Asim Kamal is one other player who I would have liked to see in the squad but obviously he doesn't have enough connections. Kamram you are spot on about Butt though. I don't think anyone could have done it better. Well said and I completely agree with your views on him and PCB.

  • Atif on August 13, 2010, 12:34 GMT

    waterbuffalo,

    YK did not want the captaincy; if we ignore the intrigue of players, the increasingly political role of Yawar Saeed who needlessly raised alarms over match fixing and is the reason behind YK's ouster and the threatening calls of people after WC07, and still label YK for not accepting CAPTAINCY, how does that make YK ineligible for selection as a PLAYER?

    Sami did well in swinging conditions in Australia (Sydney) and is still more useful than Wahab Riaz (14 wickets in 6 domestic matches).

    By the way i am a kashmiri+punjabi.

  • Ammar on August 13, 2010, 12:41 GMT

    Ijaz Butt is a clown and not a funny one at that. He should be removed. I dont agree with the argument here that Karachi players are being ignored. Shahid Afridi retired, Kaneria is hopelessly out of form, Sami has no chance of being in the squad in place of Amir, Asif and Gul. Faisal Iqbal hasn't done much with the opportunities he's got. Hassan Raza a complete failure at international level. Younis Khan is out not because he is a Karachi based player but because of his personal issues with the above mentioned clown. To top it all chief selector Mohsin Khan is from Karachi. Selcetion should be on merit not to appease some regional cricket associations. Just an fyi I am from Karachi before anyone accuses me of regional bias.

  • Atif on August 13, 2010, 12:44 GMT

    K. Abbassi Sb,

    I would also like to draw your attention to lack of Representation given to Azad Kashmir in domestic cricket of Pakistan. Don't you think it is a gross injustice. Wouldn't a writer like yourself like to draw attention of the authorities to this issue?

  • karachiwala on August 13, 2010, 12:58 GMT

    This is not true - Balochistan, Sindh (excluding Karachi), and Kashmir do not have any great cricket talent. If there was, they would have been selected. Karachi players like Fawad Alam (not consistent on international stage), Mohammed Sami, Danish Kaneria and Khurram Manzoor have been given plenty of chances but haven't impressed.

    Currently only KP and Punjab are producing talented cricketers. We all know this. Nobody can replace Mohammed Aamir, Umar Akmal (in limited overs), Umar Gul, and Saeed Ajmal.

  • Fawwaz Ali on August 13, 2010, 13:06 GMT

    Fawad Alam's continued exclusion is quite baffling. He has the highest FC average of all current pakistani batsmen, not to mention a brilliant hundred on debut..

    He would have fared much better than Azhar Ali or Umar Amin. He deserves his place after a few seasons of averaging over 50.

    Give him a chance!

  • umar on August 13, 2010, 13:07 GMT

    Dr Kamran again an articul full of it, if no krachi player is good enough or at some disagreement then why should they be selected, ONLY YK merits a place, the rest dont even cut it