CB Series 2011-12

Discord, dissent hurt Indian team

It has been a long tour with little success to celebrate, and the differences and frustrations between the players are coming out now, in the form of scarcely anticipated bombshells dropped during routine press conferences

Sidharth Monga

February 22, 2012

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Gautam Gambhir and Virender Sehwag added 176 runs, India v West Indies, 4th ODI, Indore, December 8, 2011
Some of the statements players like Gautam Gambhir and Virender Sehwag have been making are not the sort people would utter without actually wanting to © Associated Press
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The statements made by some of the senior players in press conferences indicate a clear dissent and failure of communication among the Indian team on tour in Australia for more than two months now. There has also been a near breakdown of communication between the selectors and the team management, ESPNcricinfo has learned.

Some of the statements the players have been making are not the sort they would if they didn't want to. If the media is enjoying the glut of bombshells that have punctuated the press conferences, it is only because the players, well-versed in the art of stonewalling tough questions during good times, are willing participants. It's been a long tour with little success to celebrate, and the differences and frustrations are coming out now.

Whether the former played some part in the latter - to put it all down to a rift would be disrespectful to Australia who have completely outplayed India - is the old chicken-and-egg question. Then again there is no dressing room that is completely devoid of personality and philosophy clashes. You don't need to go on double dates to ensure the requisite dressing-room atmosphere conducive to winning games of cricket. Insiders are of the view that MS Dhoni and Virender Sehwag have never been great friends, but until the last few months were mature team-mates. Now, though, their differences might have begun to hurt the team. There's no point wishing them away.

The latest bone of contention on a tour of discontent is Dhoni's policy to play only two out of Sehwag, Gautam Gambhir and Sachin Tendulkar. Two of the three openers have made their discontent known. Through an earlier press conference, Sehwag made this policy public, including saying he had been told the three were to take turns at resting. There has to be a reason why a member of the team, not known to share any team news with the press, did so now. The pressure was on Dhoni now, to make Tendulkar sit out in the third game.

Dhoni did so. Then he followed up Gambhir's 92 with an innings that began slowly but finished the job, even if cutting it a little too fine. It was Gambhir's turn now to speak out. He said the game should not have gone into the final over, and that perhaps Dhoni was waiting for someone else to take up the responsibility of playing the big shots. It was India's first big win of the tour against Australia - the only other one until then being a Twenty20 - and Gambhir's sudden forthrightness didn't quite add up.

At the toss for the next game, while continuing his rotation policy like a law, Dhoni said it was imperative that set batsmen finished games off. Dhoni had earned himself some relief purely off his own bat, but the youngsters he was backing were not performing at all. And by the time the team reached Brisbane, Dhoni was of the view that the youngsters not only deserved a chance to fail, they had earned it through their fielding. That if all three openers were to be played, India would leak 20 extra runs on an average.

This did not sit well with certain members of the side at all. Minutes after that press conference, Dhoni heard the news of the match ban because of the slow over-rate. Now, with Sehwag as captain, the first thing thrown to the wind was the rotation policy. Out went Rohit Sharma. No bowling for Suresh Raina until the 49th over, whose part-time spin had been as much responsible for his continued selection as his batting. The vice-captain was hardly, as he often is, an extension of the captain. You didn't need to attend Sehwag's press conference to know he didn't quite agree with the captain.

Sehwag's interaction suggested the scarcely believable notion that Dhoni had not communicated either in personal chats or in team meetings that India couldn't afford too many relatively slow fielders, and that it all had an accumulative effect. While the apparent lack of communication is an issue, equally grave is the communication breakdown between the team management and selectors.

While Dhoni is almost out of the loop with the selection of the squad, the touring selectors are being returned the favour when it comes to selecting XIs. It can be argued it is an ideal situation, but there is nobody - at least during the Tests there was nobody - in the leadership group who found himself in a position to make big calls. India went through eight batting failures in the Tests, but neither the personnel nor their order was changed. Sources have told ESPNcricinfo that the team management had been waiting for the selectors to pull the plug on the seniors. During the last big tour before two years of home Tests, nobody wanted to be the one making tough calls.

Nor does it help that Dhoni remains non-committal about his future in Test cricket. While he shows remarkable foresight when he says that he will retire in 2013 if he doesn't feel he can give it his best in the 2015 World Cup, his statement that he could retire from Tests in 2013 has left everybody in a panic mode, because in 2013 starts India's next away Test series, followed by two more important away tours.

 
 
While Dhoni is almost out of the loop with the selection of the squad, the touring selectors are being returned the favour when it comes to selecting XIs
 

When Dhoni did assume a degree of control as a leader in his format, the ODIs, his stubbornness as a captain hasn't gone down well with some players. There are certain players he backs until they have played themselves out of the team, and there are certain few who find it really hard to come back into reckoning. Ravindra Jadeja playing ahead of Irfan Pathan as the allrounder in Australian conditions in just one example.

However, by all evidence, Dhoni remains the best choice to captain India at the moment. The challenge for him is to keep the team together. The situation is not downright nasty yet, in that this still falls in PG category as opposed to the R-rated times of Greg Chappell and Sourav Ganguly. Nonetheless it is difficult for players to perform at such times. Sehwag himself has always said he plays his best cricket when he has emptied his mind of all thoughts, when he is just reacting to the next ball. It is not happening here.

There are two must-win matches coming up, India's last chance to salvage something out of a tour during which they capped their biggest low in Test cricket since the 1960s. As of now, if they are to do it, they will have to do it despite the less-than-ideal dressing-room atmosphere. It doesn't help that the custodian of the team, the BCCI, right now believes this is all evil misquoting by the evil media.

Edited by Nitin Sundar

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by   on (February 26, 2012, 10:30 GMT)

doubt if Manoj Tiwary would ever get a match to play as long as the over sensationalized Dhoni remains captain.... even if he does he might have to score a 150 to retain his place..... But if Rohit/Raina/Jadeja makes a 20 run score they can stay...

so according to Dhoni -:: Raina 20 = Jadeja 20 = Rohit 20 = Tiwari 150 !!!!

Is this justice ???? Suggest selectors to show Dhoni the door permanently ....

Posted by   on (February 26, 2012, 7:53 GMT)

Wow sehwag fails again. Drop him, or want to wait for a blue moon

Posted by Vilander on (February 25, 2012, 10:59 GMT)

I dont think India team has the ability to beat either Aus or SL at the moment, unfortunately they ties the game they should have won.

Posted by AvidCricFan on (February 25, 2012, 1:23 GMT)

No players should take their position for granted, not specifically when one has not performed. Just based on performance in the last two years outside of subcontinent, Shewag does not deserve place in the team when India is touring ENG, SA, AUS. If he has little brown matter between his years, he should stop the non-sense he is creating. Now that does not mean Dhoni is off the hook. He need to look at his team selection too. Why is he persisiting with non-performers for so long? He should have rotated the so called young non-performers too. Why are the likes of Tiwari and Rahane warming bench when others are not performing?

Posted by   on (February 24, 2012, 20:56 GMT)

Dhoni hardly sat out of match coz,.. if he does somebody will play great and he ll never get picked,.. Dhoni is a good hitter of the ball no doubt in that, .. still his batting has to improve,. he is Capt first than Keeper than Batsman,.. thts the good thing... I support Dhoni, but he needs a rest,... ther is no point in playing If u r sick.. get well soon and play better,.. get the CB Series cup back to India...

Posted by   on (February 24, 2012, 20:54 GMT)

This is one of the rare series where Sachin failed to score a runs,.. His previos ODI event was CWC 2011, he played very good,.. even Dhoni didnt play well there apart from final(thats a superb innings, no doubt about it).... any player playing after 1year, need a rythm to play,.. he proved against SL scoring 48 Runs and tht need to continue, but he was rested citing rotation policy,..but give him a chance to prove himself,.. Dhoni wants the Sachin, Viru to throw them out of the team as he did for Dada and Jammy,.. But Sachin is a great Player and everyone knows about,.. one day they has to go,.. everyone does.... But if they playing good then Y they have to go,.. Who gave the judgement that 36 years is the time to retire,.. and u cant say that sachin is not giving chance to Youngsters,.. from 2-3 years he hardly played on ODIs,.. even there was no Dada,Jammy, or Sachin,.. where were the youngsters,.. U cant tell Rohit/Raina as new comers they played more than 75 games,.. ....

Posted by Precioustar84 on (February 24, 2012, 19:54 GMT)

@nyc_missile - totally agree with you and thats exactly my view on Dhoni and Rohit. People will argue we won many competitions but its never been because of Dhoni. He seemed to be superficial during WC too. Glad we won but wasn't at all happy how he stole away award from Gauti and saw him do it once again in Aus. Why is India afraid to try new captaincy? How else will we find out who can replace Dhoni if we never even try? Sehwag given captaincy over Gambhir in Aus has been such a joke. Gauti has performed far better than Sehwag has. Rohit deserves far more chances and if not at least equal share worth as Raina and Jadega have received. Thanks for posting your comment but I have a feeling our efforts will go down in vain here. There are far too fans who can't think or see reality over emotion.

Posted by idreamcricket on (February 24, 2012, 17:05 GMT)

When Ganguly came back in the POST-CHAPPELL period he was one of the top two scorers (top in test and 2nd in ODI ) in both formats in the game. But Selectors forced him to retire from both the formats!Let alone in Indian cricket, such an injustice is rare in the world of sports!Now why can't the selectors do that to Tendulkar or other seniors?Here is the difference between Australia and India. Australia would do that to anyone.....doesn't matter if it's Border,Waugh or Ponting.

Posted by   on (February 24, 2012, 16:08 GMT)

I completely agree with Mr.nyc_missile's comments.

Posted by puneet_usa on (February 24, 2012, 13:31 GMT)

I am still wondering what should be our playing 11??? For this all important game against Australia on Sunday- Seriously this fake rotation fiasco, seniors not getting along, media controversies, blah blah....Point Blank-" We need the best available 11 to play the next two games"- with or without any personal favors and differences....it's about time people should leave their personal differences for the sake of nation and die-hard fans...history proves it that Whenever India is in this sort of dire situation where it's do or die- they do perform 8 out of 10 times....so let's hope for the best...!!!!!

Posted by MohsinBallack on (February 24, 2012, 12:49 GMT)

india is almost out now from the one day tournament as well so wht kind of success this is dissterous tour for india senior players ha to leave this team now so many times and tours we saw this with indian teams senior players got fail in foreign tours or got unfit because they afraid to fail in outside india when played at home they looks world class amazing indian batsman.......world class in slow hard wickets on a supporting wickets they are bad as courtney walsh in batting

Posted by Alexk400 on (February 24, 2012, 9:21 GMT)

Dhoini lost 7-0 in TESTS Should have been 8-0. His mojo is gone. He was good when he kept sehwag happy. Now it all will go south. Sehwag must score some runs or need to bench himself.

Posted by nyc_missile on (February 24, 2012, 7:56 GMT)

Lets cut to the chase & observe a couple of myths & facts around our team- Myth 1- Rohit Sharma,given too many chances-Fact- Only 5 here,in all matches(say last 10 after WC of course) he was given a chance,he averages 70 odd,if a non-performing Jadeja&Raina can be given such a long rope(at least 20 matches for Raina)why not to Rohit.Myth 2-Dhoni is a cool captain&a great finisher Fact 2- Top order sets up the chase,Dhoni comes in,converts a canter into a nerve-wracking tight finish by wasting overs and killing the momentum of the chase.In the end scores brownie points for 'heroic' finishes when singles could have done the job in the first place.As for being captain cool,see the recent PCs, enough said!Turning out to be a scheming,selfish& extremely paranoid captain who fears losing the job to Sehwag/Gambhir.Also cunningly trying to divert attention from his own utter failures in tests by this senior/junior non-sense.Sadly for Ind,even in ODIs Dhoni cant seem to rally his troops!

Posted by King-Cobra on (February 24, 2012, 7:56 GMT)

One just wonders what the heck is Duncan Fletcher doing and what rubbish Dhoni is doing? India have been white-washed in their last 2 series and to make matters worse, the team-mates pile accusation amongst each other. And my question to Dhoni: 2015 is 4 years from now - Can you pls forget it for time being and justify the recent dismality your team displayed ???

Posted by   on (February 24, 2012, 5:57 GMT)

I think this is all a well orchestrated circus to keep the media from asking the hard questions, why this team has failed in this tour? just blame it on miscommunication, rift, discord...

Posted by   on (February 24, 2012, 5:47 GMT)

IPL and seniors addicted to the game is destroying the Indian team that has just w on the world cup...the seniors should have retired but their still waiting for more glory and will end up retiring in disgust...

Posted by VEGHA on (February 24, 2012, 5:35 GMT)

No Player is invincible in the team and they are getting a very huge money and they are playing for country.Selectors must drop first shewag for his comments and irresponsible play. He has not scored many runs for his country during this tour but only he is concentrating on dirty politics.Many youngsters are waiting at India with enough talent to play for thier country.

Posted by   on (February 24, 2012, 5:24 GMT)

I don't agree with Mr.Monga's view that MSDhoni's statement of retire from Tests in 2013 has left everybody in a panic mode. Actually, it is a good news, but, he should do that before the next home test series so that new captain will get some time before India's next away Test series starts in 2013, followed by two more important away tours. Wriddiman Saha, is the best replacement for Dhoni as a wicketkeeper. He is best compared to Dhoni's test batting as well as wicket-keeping. Why Mr.Dhoni wants to retire from Tests when foreign series comes? However, he wants to play tests in indian soil. Good move, well Dhoni go ahead, because you have some good supporters in selection panel and true cricket lovers are just fools.

Posted by   on (February 24, 2012, 5:05 GMT)

Dhoni is the best captain India has seen, above all he is the only one who is the fittest in the team, he has hardly sat out of a match and of late it looks he is jaded with the senior debates. The tests saw Dhoni completely out of sorts, and this was a reflection of the fact that he was not comfortable having 5 to 6 players in the team who were under performers. When he tries something people jump and criticize him. His idea of jadeja is not working out and he said that in so much words, he cant axe Rohit after making him wait for nearly 2 months, Tiwary is another example of what he could do. I think the Indian selectors must either show some spine, or let the captain decide on tour. Else a captain who could be the best in the world will most probably play in only IPL, and that would be the saddest day of Indian Cricket.

Posted by VAVAVA on (February 24, 2012, 3:43 GMT)

Serwag should be dropped. An occasional brilliant performance does not justify a spot in the team, his recent form is abysmal, and worst of all his influence on morale is noxious. This business of players being in different "camps" - and Serwag being in the Ganguly "camp" -- has got to stop.

Posted by wake_up_india on (February 24, 2012, 3:28 GMT)

This debate is more entertaining than India's playing. The number of shrieks of delight we are seeing at India's misery means that India must have been truly good at some time (seems like a distant memory though). Like all things, this phase will pass.

Posted by PallathZ on (February 24, 2012, 3:05 GMT)

Rohit Sharma is a talent to reckon with in all 3 formats.He is the best young Indian player who needs to be persisted with. He was the man of series in last 2 one day series in India and also a series in West Indies.Played exceptionally well last series in Australia.He needs to be given space and time without pressure.Now after the Test series,he comes back into one days with a Bradmansque expectation.Give him chances.He certainly has the technique,quality and potential.Allow him the space bloom.For me ,he is the next best batsman after Sachin. Dhoni for me has been Stubbon from day1.Media portrayed him to be Captain Cool.He took it 2 far with stereotype messages & irrirating press conferences.He is facing the music when going got tough.A lucky captain,where the seniors and all of them were in prime form & he reaped the rewards.Never been a fan of his batting. Sehwag,a great bastmen in Indian conditions.He has to atleast bat for 10 overs .He seems to be allergic to batting!!

Posted by   on (February 24, 2012, 2:41 GMT)

That's all right..tell me that Sehwag is not playing ODI's outside India and I am more than satisfied !

Posted by Sinhabahu on (February 24, 2012, 1:54 GMT)

I'm quite enjoying reading all your comments, folks :)

Posted by shiv_cric on (February 24, 2012, 0:39 GMT)

I dont think many can argue about Dhoni's or Gautam's views, but Sehwag's views are mostly debatable. He is better of answering his critics, whom i would think would have grown in number- with his bat than all this big talk, which sounds like nonsense, given his terrible form and reckless approach..Best to let somebody who speaks and thinks sensibly to represent India in press conferences, than somebody who is furthering his own cause at the expense of the team. It goes without saying that there is an urgent need for evaluation of the selection policy and the suitability of certain youngsters.As an Indian,hoping things take a turn for the better

Posted by SirEngland on (February 23, 2012, 23:55 GMT)

Dhoni should be allowed to select who ever he wants.......probably 11 from Punjab.

Posted by SirEngland on (February 23, 2012, 23:49 GMT)

India should continue with the current players for the next 5 years.........should be fun!

Posted by BravoBravo on (February 23, 2012, 23:40 GMT)

The take home message fom this article is that IND (including IND fans and biassed pro-IND cricket columnist) has run out of all excuses for their miserable performances in every format of game. Now blame on the family feud. First this writer was glamorizing the IND defeats and whitewashes, then he wrote an article (very recent one) about pointing and included SRT in the mix, because he wanted to shroud SRT persistent failure by comparing him with Ponting. What a joke, Ponting has 100+ test matches win under his belt. SRT nowhere in his or Lara's league, or even Inzamam's league. Ponting, Lara, Inzamam they turned the game around and have won for their teams.

Posted by DevilsCricket on (February 23, 2012, 21:35 GMT)

Ashwini - that's a good one !

If Sachin can't perform against stronger teams now, he just have to step aside and wait till India plays Zimbabwe or Bangladesh for the 100th 100.

Posted by Vilander on (February 23, 2012, 20:52 GMT)

Indian team, show some guts. Take all this negativity and convert it into hard committed passionate relentless grid to succeed.

Posted by Nampally on (February 23, 2012, 19:55 GMT)

After seeing >250 comments, I wonder whether the Indian Team can feel the pulse of the Cricket fans!. Comments from fans may be relevant but the guys who perform in the middle are the players.On Paper I still see this team as the strongest of the 3, if they have ther right XI and each player performs to his potential. Indian Top 3 are the best in the world with the only 2 Double Centurians in ODI. In Ashwin & Rahul India has 2 excellent ODI spinners. In ZAK, Praveen India has 2 good swinging seamers with Yadev & Vinay as back up. Kohli, Raina & Dhoni are attacking middle order bats followed by an all rounder - Pathan, if right choice is made. Can these guys set aside their differences & play with their heart & soul in the game for Team India? With so much talent if they cannot beat the Aussies & the SL team, they will have to question their grit, commitment, team spirit & will to Win.They say where there is a will there is a way! Pl. summon your Will to WIN. Good Luck - Jai HO!

Posted by frank2011 on (February 23, 2012, 19:49 GMT)

@Kaze, mate... let me join you with some more popcorn and an even bigger smile :) Ooohh how the mighty have fallen (well you weren't really mighty but you thought you were). Really funny stuff watching the Indian team, their management, their fans and their media IMPLODE. Really great cricket from the Aussies this summer and now from the Lankan's. They are showing the Indians how to play cricket at the moment. But the thing is, these guys have very short memories. So a quick tour and a couple of close victories with Kenya or Burmuda will stop all these arguments ... and put India back on top :)

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 19:47 GMT)

Sachin keeps on saying I will play the game until he "enjoys" the game. What does that mean? Only his "enjoyment" is paramount? Sorry Sir, we love you, but for us India comes first, not your personal "enjjoyment". You might be enjoying, but 8-0 humiliation has made a lot of Indians very depressed. Please move on, and give youngsters a chance. We beg you.

Posted by VAS4 on (February 23, 2012, 19:20 GMT)

Sehwag better keep quiet. Dhoni's ability can't be questioned. Honestly, how long are the indian cricket fans are going to wait for him to score some runs. he is like a lottery. Gambhir and Dhoni won the world cup for us, please dont forget that. I do not agree with Dhoni in supporting Raina and Rohit no limit. They were extremely lucky to have millions of chances. Feel sorry for Manoj and Rahane. Rotation policy is a fantastic idea. I have no idea what tendulkar is waiting for. Also I wonder how can you call Raina and Rohit youngsters. They are in the international arena for ages now and played hundred matches each. I suggest Sehwag score some runs before you talk.

Posted by xylo on (February 23, 2012, 18:26 GMT)

A better headline might be "Sleazy reporting reveals decline of quality in cricinfo".

Posted by kunderanengineer on (February 23, 2012, 18:23 GMT)

So I suppose that wonderfully irresponsible shot that Sehwag played off the second delivery of the innings while chasing a formidable target of 290 against Sri Lanka and all the other reckless shots he has obstinately and unremorsefully played starting with the England series last summer were just manifestations of dissent. Maybe if he's unhappy, he shouild step aside and let Rahane, Mukund or Pujara take his place. I'm sure they would be more than happy to oblige.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 18:16 GMT)

can you blame rohit sharma he wasnt given a chance in the test squad yet virat kohli was virat failed in the first two tests but was given a chance in the third and 4th test, where he proved he is test worthy , sharma should be given more chances if he fails then should be sacked from the odi team tendulkar,sehwag,raina and jadeja should be sacked from the odis and manoj tiwary,rahane,varun aaron etc should be given chances

Posted by singhrahulrnc on (February 23, 2012, 17:50 GMT)

captain alone cannot win a match for you...Why not everyone look at the openers...when they have given a good starts...MSD was man of the series in England tour in one dayers...also in CB series he is batting well.Being an opener many of them have not even scored an century outside India...If u cant even chase down an target of 240 odd against srilanka then god saves u.& Those three are obviously a slow fielders..although they r safe fielders(dont drop catches),safe it means whenever the ball goes to them opposing team thinks there r always one or two runs in the taking..U can see last over of the tied match against srilanka...

Posted by mark2011 on (February 23, 2012, 17:35 GMT)

Is there a second row captin behind in Ind team? i mean who is going to be the next captain if MS retire or reject it near future? I cant see any young player is there in present Ind team. i think this will be major problem in Indian team in future. presently it seems that team is not in good unit as there are different comments started coming out during past weeks. India was wining last 2 years mainly to their strong batting from viru,sachin,gambir etc,they did not much worry about balling, but when batting is not happening as expected all sort of problems comes out. this is fundamental mistake India did making pure batting pitches specialy in India and scoring 400 runs in a day of test match to attract crowds. but it worked only in India.Because for money BCCI made evrything like IPL and earn money. when go out of India, problem stared. sport being made a business by money greedy BCCI, now you bear the repurcursion of your own act.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 17:31 GMT)

Frnds if we talk abt the contribution of Sachin, Sehwag and Gambhir(for last 3-4 yrs) then and putting Dhoni's in the same list it would not be a proper justification to the above mentioned trio.

Dhoni contributed in a very few occasion to teams performance rather always tried to keep his batting avg intact by avoiding 1st spell of the first bowlers. Now few friends may say that he has sacrificed his batting order for the jr team members then the question is how many times he came forward to face the pace bowlers when top order got out quickly in England and Australia or there also he was sacrificing himself and sending Raina or Rohit forward.

In WC2011 and below is the scored run of top 6 batsman of India and which proves everything abt contbn to be the WC Champs Sehwag 380 Sachin 482 Gambhir 393 Yuvraj 362 Kohli (playing 1st WC) 282 Dhoni 241

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 17:31 GMT)

Players like Robin Uthappa,Irfan Pathan,Yusuf Pathan,etc find it really difficult to come back under Dhoni's captaincy....He favours his CSK teammates...This is evident from Dhoni's team selections.(He has given chance to Sudeep Tyagi,Manpreet Gony,Parthiv Patel,Lakshmi Balaji and always persisted with Raina,Jadeja and Ashwin)..Good talents like Umesh yadav and Varun AAron come into the team with great difficulty.

Posted by RajuallenEmanuel on (February 23, 2012, 17:18 GMT)

Stop All These Non Sense And Put INDIA At The Front.. Just Think About The World Cup Glory And Relive Those Moments, You Will Find The Situation Around You Changes Automatically. There Will Be Not Rifts Only Joys. At The End Of The Day Team India Should Win.

Posted by bluebillion on (February 23, 2012, 17:18 GMT)

These differences are bound to crop up when the team is not doing well. While Dhoni and BCCI might have us belive that all is hunky gory, two 4-0 losses will cause rifts between the team. Most of them are professionals but I am sureit is very difficult dealing with their own failures coupled with silly captaincy by Dhoni. Frustrations are bound to creep in and these frustrations will not allow the players to perform. Its a pity for the likes of Umesh, Ashwin, Jadeja, Irfan, Rahul Sharma, Rohit and Kohli to be a witness of all this - it must be demotivating for them too.

These things happen even in the work environment when stress levels are high and things are not going as planned. No surprise then that it is happening to this team who are under much more pressure. However, as I said earlier, they are professionals and will certainly sort out these differences in the interest of Indian cricket and for the sake of winning (nobody likes to lose - these are a proud bunch of men).

Posted by RajuallenEmanuel on (February 23, 2012, 17:13 GMT)

I think the Best possible XI and The batting order that can secure India a place at finals is. Sachin, Gambhir, Virat, Dhoni, Shewag, Raina, Irfan, Ashwin, Praveen, Zaheer, Rahul Sharma/Yadav. I Prefer this Batting Order Because Gambhir is in some decent form at the top. Sachin is still timing the ball well. Virat is doing a word of good. Dhoni is the man to steady the ship and later on launch. Shewag talks about batting in the middle, its the wright time to do. Use Raina as a Finisher rather than a player who is trying to steady the ship in fall of early wickets. Irfan is the one All- Rounder who can bat. Ashwin Is Handy With Bat At No.8. Praveen Is the One Who Can Swing The New Ball At Any Given Condition. Zak Will Open With Praveen. I Think In The T20 and In 1 ODI Sharma Has Troubled OZies A Lot Than Yadav, But Yadav Is Hot In Those Condition Which Sometime May Burn Our Hands too. So India Should Make a Brave Move Like Lanka did with Mahela Opening The Innin and OZ by Axeing Punter.

Posted by Universalthinker on (February 23, 2012, 16:23 GMT)

If the real motive of Rotation policy is to nurture young talent why not Dhoni himself sit outisde and give chance to an young player. Even he fits well with the rotation policy (Aged 30 and senoir, played 200 ODI's) infact elder to Gambhir and played more matches than him.Moreoevr Dhoni himself made a statement that he is not sure of playing till 2013. Why he is excluding himself from policy. He shoud stop giving chances to his CSK partners. jadeja is no big allrounder than Irfan or yusuf. Infact Dhoni is the creator of all these issues, its his responsibility to solve them by resigning from captaincy

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 16:09 GMT)

seems like the captain has already decided to throw away the senior members, i just want to ask that what raina and rohit sharma have done in the series? MSD dont want to stabilise the opening combination. that is one of the major reason of indian defeat.

Posted by PrajithR on (February 23, 2012, 15:55 GMT)

All through this commotion SRT has maintained dignified silence... This shows that SRT really understands & support the rotation policy of Dhoni... Compare that with Sehwag's & Gambhir's whinging ... Gambhir (Average player of fast bowling in bouncy pitches) & Sehwag (Flat pitch bully since 2008) better keep quiet... India need to find suitable players for WC 2015 or else we will have Eggs on our face in 2015.

Posted by RISHI2016 on (February 23, 2012, 15:54 GMT)

enough has been said and done by the media, players and public..its the management who should be accountable for this mess... At one point of time they call up a 38 year old Dravid for one dayers and then few months later rotation policy starts... rotation policy is a positive sign but the arguement of giving youngster a chance is archaic... someone who has played 141 matches (raina) and someone who has played 80 odd matches (sharma) cant be called a youngster... Had it been Tiwari, Rahul Sharma being given chances, it would have made sense... moreover, now with a do and die sitaution best would be to play people with repute as no one is performing... bringning sehwag down the order might work and we definitely need zaheer khan in the next two matches...

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 15:37 GMT)

I think after Asia Cup,Dhoni should be relieved of his captaincy and Virat should be entrusted with the same job bcoz Dhoni has not remained what he was.By doing this we can re-start our wining compaign

Posted by Texmex on (February 23, 2012, 15:20 GMT)

I think the rotation policy of seniors is sound. It is not like they are scoring runs and only the youngsters are failing. Remember everyone wanted that to happend in Tests. Dhoni had to stay till the end because if he hit out early and got out the tail cant make runs. His policy would have worked if one of the middle order had played. Dhoni's mistakes are sticking to Jadeja all the time (why no Rahul Sharma - isnt he young and a 2015 prospect). He also should not have called the seniors slow in field publicly.

Posted by sumscorer on (February 23, 2012, 15:05 GMT)

Sachin, Dravid, Laxman can't be playing going forward. We in India need to make decisions for the sake of youngsters & the future.When a person of Ponting's stature has been shown the door. Whats the big deal about Sachin, Dravid? I don't know what point they have to prove. Do we bring in VRS scheme here too? For gods sake show them the door. Dhoni can't be putting sense into everybody's head.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 14:57 GMT)

The 1970's is repeating now. Remember, in England we're washed out for a mere 42 runs (Mike Dennes was captain of England). Bedi openly threatened Wadekar that if Venkat is in the XI, he will not play; when Venkat as V.C. was about to lead in 3rd test, due to indisposed Wadekar, Bedi was about to pack off. Remember 1st World Cup in England;Gavaskar made 36 n.o. & stayed till 60th over, saying he was having match practice. That time Venkat was the captain. Is it a curse that India should not have good captains?. Remember Srikkanth's case. Now it is the turn of Dhoni. Selectors!! don't go by sentiments; Hard decisions will pay; sack Sehwag & Gambhir.Youngsters r waiting; better loose with young blood than persist with old horses; train up for future & W.C. 2015. Let a matured young guy learn from Dhoni for 2 years & be ready to lead in WC 2015. Sachin,Laxman & Dravid shld retire else it will be their Ganguly's way!I assure u now this trio + Sehwag will defintly SCORE in the coming IPL.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 14:53 GMT)

shewag should not speak first he should try bat for atleast one over and then he can speak about dhoni who is playing really well

Posted by Spelele on (February 23, 2012, 14:19 GMT)

@kartikeysoni:- Mate, you totally misunderstood me. My point was not that only those who are on good terms with the captain should be in the team as you claim. My comment was that " Dhoni is an exceptional captain in ODIs. If any player has a problem with him, then that player should go. India has enough talent; they don't need flat-track bullies such as Sehwag and Tendulkar. Get other capable players like Virat, Tiwary, Rohit etc who can play in varying conditions into the team and give them a long run. Sticking with old, slow non-performers will hurt India unless Dhoni continues to stand his ground. The oldies must shape up or ship out!". My point is that if Sehwag (or any other player for that matter) is not performing because he can only perform "when he has emptied his mind of all thoughts" and can't deal with Dhoni's fair and necessary rotation policies, he needs to be the one to go. It's his problem, not Dhoni's.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 14:16 GMT)

Haven't new comers been given enough chances? How many innings one needs to prove his worth? Don't you think Gambhir, Sehwag and Sachin are better on any given day than Raina, Rohit and Jadeja?

Posted by TRAM on (February 23, 2012, 14:13 GMT)

Winning the world cup is the life time dream for any player. That is the peak and no achievement is superior to that. So after that, the players certainly dont have any more motivation to perform (except of course money). So the moral of the story - Drop every 30+ years player who has won the world cup.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 13:58 GMT)

Yeah, I completely agree with the post on the pay of the Indian players. Yes, they should slash the huge match fee of the Indian players and treat them like any other sportsmen in the country. Let us inculcate a culture of glory representing the country in the future sportsmen.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 13:55 GMT)

this is exactly why i rate Ganguly ahead of Dhoni.. Even though Dhoni won us the world cup, he would never ever be as great a leader as Ganguly... They say Ganguly was a Great leader of the indian cricket team, whereas Dhoni is a leader of Great indian cricket team. I guess its gonna be deja vu Chappel era...

Posted by IndiaN_CricKeter86 on (February 23, 2012, 13:30 GMT)

As far as the India Team goes, I personally think this rotation policy decision should have been made long back as nobody would be able to make excuses of Tiredness. The way Sehwag plays shows one thing only that he does not learn from his mistakes. And when Dhoni says that senior players cost him 20 runs on an average, he should make sure that the youngsters too are performing well in the field. Rohit Sharma dropped two important catches in the match against Australia (I am ignoring Umesh Yadav's dropped catch). Nobody is perfect, but you have to take chances. This is the right time to give youngsters an opportunity to play alongside greats like Sachin, so that they can improve their game.Otherwise our team will be full of Sehwag's(poor in both forms of the game) and Dhoni's (very poor in test matches).

Posted by Sano27 on (February 23, 2012, 13:18 GMT)

what ever the fact....Dhoni is the best one to captain the Indian side at present although he looks bit partial to some players like Jadeja,Rohit Sharma,Raina,Vinay Kumar...RP Singh in Eng tour....If the team was selected as per the performance then guys like PK,Rahul Sharma,Tiwary,Uthappa will find some spots !

Posted by rkannancrown on (February 23, 2012, 12:40 GMT)

The assumption that the selectors are not listening to Dhoni is hardly correct. The captain & coach often participate in selection meetings and it is always the non performers & fringe performers whose selection is debatable. The bigger problem appears to be issues within the touring squad. Dhoni persisted with rohit for 5 matches & he failed in all of them despte getting starts & wasting deliveries. This put pressure on the tail end batsmen who have to score with a high asking rate. Tiwari & Rahane, despite being far superior fielders than Rohit, have not got a look in. A rotation policy cannot apply to players who are repeatedly failing. Fletcher has an overall pathetic record as a coach. He is far too over trhe hill & has a track rfecord of converting good teams into weaklings. His performance for India fits into the same mould.

Posted by SKamaraj on (February 23, 2012, 12:36 GMT)

Dhoni has a point in that it is very hard for over 30's to field well in the massive grounds of Australia! Sehwag is the only person that is lacking in batting and fielding badley (inspite of that one excellent catch) and his lethargic attitude shows up in the careless ways he manages to get out every time! He is physically not fit to play at this level any more and neither is Zaheer Khan. At least Gambhir makes runs and SRT shows signs of form (he will definitey do well in the next two ODI's if picked. I think Manoj Tiwari needs to be in the team for his fielding skills and big hitting. My eleven for the next two matches will be: SRT, Gambhir, Kohli, Rohit, Tiwari, Raina, Dhoni, Pathan, Ashwin, Vinodh/Jadeja and Yadav. - No point playing Zaheer and Pathan in one match as they are left armers and as much as I don't like Vinod, Praveen is blowing hot and cold right now and I think he cannot be trusted with the new ball.

Posted by kabe_ag7 on (February 23, 2012, 12:05 GMT)

Sidharth, you are among the best writers on this site, but I think you are speculating and theorising too much on this one. It has been like a self-fulfilling prophecy where players might react to the unnecessary hype their statements get in the media. In most cases, the statements made by Dhoni, Sehwag and Gambhir were commonplace enough. E.g. if there was a rotation policy to be employed, Sehwag was not 'revealing a team-secret' as you suggested, because the policy would have become obvious anyway. While explaining the rotation policy to the seniors Dhoni might not have mentioned the advantage of younger legs, probably because it was obvious to everybody or because he thought that youngsters gaining experience is a sufficient argument or he might have been uncomfortable giving that reason to the seniors. In the latter case, it probably is a case of lack of communication, but not a severe one. You forget how quickly Dhoni accepted responsibility for Gambhir's run-out in the tied match

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (February 23, 2012, 12:02 GMT)

RAINA WHO HAS PLAYED 140 MATCHES , ROHIT 78 & JADEJA 50+ ARE CALLED YOUNSTERS BY DHONI THAT THEY WANT TO MATURE IN ODIS THAT'S WHY HE IS GIVING THEM CHANCES WHILE KEVIN PETERSON( 124) , HASHIM AMLA(60) , JONATHAN TROTT(43) HAS PLAYED LESS MATCHES THAN THESE BUT STILL HAVE MATURED MUCH MORE THAN OUR INDIAN " TALENTED " YOUNGSTERS .

Posted by BCCI007 on (February 23, 2012, 11:28 GMT)

INTRODUCE PERFORMANCE BASED PAY SYSTEM FOR ALL PLAYERS. INTRODUCE RATING POINTS.. LET'S SEE IF THIS WORKS :-)

Posted by Shakirceragem on (February 23, 2012, 11:21 GMT)

No doubt Sachin,Shewbag, Gambhir and Dhoni have given lot to Indian cricket. They are the outstanding cricketers.. But time has come to give the space for the new comers. This decision has to be taken by themselves leaving the space for the youngster. They have to realize this true fact...

Posted by VettiPayyan on (February 23, 2012, 11:17 GMT)

Now with the team's mind cleared of the milestones, they had enough space for bringing out their inner feelings and opened up for discussions. This is why we see more of Sehwag -dhoni fights on TV. Dhoni hinted abt Sachin too. But then ppl are diff. They react differently.. Sehwag reacts the way he bats.. Thwack!..

Now Dhoni shud rethink what he wants. He cant keep dictating chases. The way he just asked Pathan (who had hit a six few balls back) to throw his wicket just so that Dhoni can get on strike, and the way he just plays dots and takes runs as per his wish, will hurt India sometimes.. Victories covered this so far. Defeats are exposing them.

Also in tests, Planning alone works.. Dhoni's strategy of "You cant plan off the field" is what is hurting him. Instinct might work for few sixers.. not for getting 20 wickiets with the resources.

THink Dhoni, Think. Start trusting others, Take Ideas.

Posted by VettiPayyan on (February 23, 2012, 11:11 GMT)

Even tho a fan of Dhoni's charisma, straight talk and unique style of positivity, we all need to accept one thing. His strenghts are also his weakness. Dhoni speaks straight about how he wins a game, which all think is cool. Then his nature will make him do the same for pointing mistakes. He will be on your face.

His instincitve decisions in ODIs and T20s were appreciated by all , but the same were not applicable to Test matches as he cannot pressurize opponent teams with the same strategies as in shorter formats. He cant make Ashwin bowl to attacking fields and get wickets in Tests. Here again his strength was his weakness.

The team did wel under him till world cup becos everyone was working towards a goal, No1 Test team and ODI WC. So all supported Dhoni and wanted to be a part of success.

Contd..

Posted by KapilDadas on (February 23, 2012, 10:58 GMT)

If Sachin, Sehwag & Gautum leaks 20 runs in the outfield, Captain Dhoni leaks atleast 10 runs in the inner cirlce plus puts down half chances, and stumping. I guess it time to play Ms. Dhoni as a regular batsman and give Waha a chance behind the stumps. surely we can then practice rotation policy on 4 seniors. Or is the keeper's place a safe ticket for Dhoni into the eleven.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 10:57 GMT)

Hah, who says Dhoni's a good captain? He's just a captain with a good bunch of players.What about the England and Aussie tours. Dhoni was captain..did he win any tests? NO!

Posted by stormy16 on (February 23, 2012, 10:39 GMT)

I am a bit surprised at all this - Dhoni surely is the best Indian captain in a long time and after winning the WC and taking the team to the #1 ranking, surely can have it his way - after all everyone was blindly backing him when India were winning. India's troubles lay elsewhere I believe - may be its the older players, the constant loses and why isnt anyone talking about the coach. Surely he has in important role in all this. Poeple always say the coach cant control things in the middle - well he certainly should be able to control these sorts of issues and what role is he playing in all this. Also a guy like Sewag is a bit of a lose canon (this is not saying he is not an awesome batsman) at a leadership position. Its alawys going to be hard to deal with Sewag when he gets out to a 'cow shot' as a senior/leader and differences are likley to come about specially if India are losing. India need a break and get back to home confditions and maul the next opponent silly and start again.

Posted by monstin on (February 23, 2012, 10:09 GMT)

it looks like sachin is loosing his judgement skills even before bowler delivers which has been his greatest quality through out his career. i think he has to play very agressively and dont worry about loosing his wicket being agressive. indian next generation of players looked hopeless and i dont know how they going to play test matches against quality bowling. wait and see.

Posted by nasimmushtaque on (February 23, 2012, 9:52 GMT)

The rift was there since long time in Indian Team, but winning hides every such thing, but now it coming into public's knowledge as they are cleaning dirty linen in front of camera. personally i feel that dhoni is not performing his captaincy role properly as he become so defensive and predictable, sachin is greedy about his 100th Century, Sehwag does not care anyone, others i feel trying hard but due to the disturbance in the team amongs the seniors affecting the performance of the junior, and in my VIEW NOT INCLUDING TEWARI IN THE LAST MATCH AGAINST SRILANKA WAS A HUGE BLANDER BY THE TEAM MANAGEMENT (CAPTAIN,MANAGER AND SENIORS)

Posted by gopakumar85 on (February 23, 2012, 9:40 GMT)

i dont think that i would be surprised if mahendra singh dhoni quits captaincy regardless to what bcci says with the way things are panning out once he lands in india after the australia tour. he is a very smart guy turst me. he will find ways to cover him self. whatever is happening is not right. hope bcci takes stock of every happening that has taken place in australia.eash an every individual should be accountable for there act in australia. hope bcci demands answer from each and every player including the coach duncan fletcher along with the support staff. its high time we demand a answer from the coach now. we got him of the hook after the england series may it was the 1st tough series but not again. if need may bcci should sack the old duncan fletcher and get someone new. there are some very good coaches around.

Posted by Scheduler on (February 23, 2012, 9:35 GMT)

@the goodgame . rightly said sehwag should be thrown out he is no great player he is just an afridi maybe a bit better. He should be kicked out and let him till fields of najafgarh. Common everyone knows he has not been performing for the past 4 years outside the sub continent , i dont understand why BCCI is scared to throw him out . We cannot just rest on past laurels. Its really irritating when commentators like shastri and arun lal call him match winner . Just having a strike rate of more than 100 doesn't make him a superman . even certain tailenders have a strike rate of more than 100 so are they all match winners . ESPN get fresh voices time to boot out shastri . let him drive around mumbai in his audi.

Posted by A.Ak on (February 23, 2012, 9:33 GMT)

why don't they just focus on their on-field issues? and ignore the off-field issues. I mean the media.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 9:30 GMT)

pls bring yusuf or uttapa in place of sehwag

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 9:17 GMT)

This is utter nonsense from Indian team...they doesn't know how to play and win against a professionally playing opponents like Australia, England and South Africa and blaming each other to hide their own weaknesses. Even a "double" world cup winning captain who is still fit had "axed" from a team…there is nothing wrong in a rotation policy…at least the captain ensuring the blessings of "GODS"(ya..fans are saying they r GODSSSS..) now and then in the national team even though they are not a match winners outside "Sub-Continent"….C'mon Sehwag, Sachin,Gambir& peers…show ur class through "THE WOOD" not by the blabber; which we have a lot from our beloved "politicos"…here every day.

Posted by Scheduler on (February 23, 2012, 9:16 GMT)

I have not seen a player who is as arrogant,proud and irresponsible as Sehwag. The kind of statements he has been making is really pathetic and what is more deplorable is the fact that he is not even willing to accept he has not been playing good. Selectors should realise that Names would never win them matches and only a good in form player can win them matches. BCCI should take a cue from the australian board and should go ahead and axe non performing players and if that has to be the big guns of indian cricket then they should. Sehwag should certainly be booted out or atleast stripped of his vice-captaincy since his captaining on the field does not have any vision and not inspiring at all. The last match is a witness to that.

Posted by PrajithR on (February 23, 2012, 9:13 GMT)

Dhoni should be commended for speaking the truth... Gambhir (below avg. player of fast bowling in bouncy pitches) & Sehwag (Flat pitch bully since 2008) better keep quiet... India need to find suitable players for WC 2015 or else we will have Eggs on our face in 2015.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 9:12 GMT)

cut the two crabs (sachin and sehwag ). they have finished there golden days . The most painful thing is that they still plays for themselves , on other hand master must make sure that he only plays on home soil so that his records dont get spoiled , and last to all fans please follow team india not sachin or sehwag because they would nothing without india , best of luck to india and hope they atleast make through final .

Posted by gopinath36 on (February 23, 2012, 9:02 GMT)

Persistence is to be lauded when it brings results. When it continuously fails, persistence becomes folly. I'm not sure if Dhoni's insistence with some players is persistence or plain bullheadedness. Suresh Raina is one example, who persists with wrong shot selection. Both he and Rohit Sharma suffer from a rush of blood when they are in the 20s or 30s. Failure knows no age. Same rules should apply to both the old ones as well as the young ones.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 8:55 GMT)

I completely agree that Sehwag should solely focus on Test cricket along with Sachin. Dhoni should be done with the Test captaincy and new talented keeper should be selected for tests.. Zaheer should play only Tests and imp ODIs.. New pacers should be tried in ODIs and T20..Yusuf Utthapa n Jadeja should be rotated series to series in ODIs n T20 for no.7 slot...

Posted by tanweeralam on (February 23, 2012, 8:52 GMT)

For All the Individual obssessed fans.... who think individual is greater than game... here is something for you "Clarke accepts role in axeing Ponting" Read this story for some elightment http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/content/current/story/554925.html

Posted by thegoodgame on (February 23, 2012, 8:51 GMT)

Its a ridiculous situation where a player (Sehwag) who is made to sit out is the Deputy Captain of the team! And to make matters worse is completely cavalier in his approach, and to say the least is a 3rd rate captain. The captain and his deputy are supposed to be solid players in the team. If the deputy is dispensible, he should not be deputy at all. Dhoni has been right in most of his observations - lets face it, it was obvious during the tests as well, senior players are not contributing to fielding. We saw Laxman standing at slips with his hands in his pocket most of the time. And if Sehwag is the type of person who puts his personal petty issues before the country, then lets kick his butt and send him back to Najafgarh. His stupid shot in the Lanka chase shows that he has absolutely no thought process or loyalty for the team - he just wants to get back at Dhoni. Well mate, do it outside the pitch, on the pitch you're an Indian player - period.

Posted by vineetkarthi on (February 23, 2012, 8:48 GMT)

if fielding is important in limited overs matches, keeping is even more important in tests. and we all know how beautifully Dhoni kept wickets in england. but he was not being honest with himself then and drop himself from the team. easy to sling mud at others. wonder what he thinks of ashwin's fielding, jadeja's bowling, etc etc... next press conference we will know about that, possibly.

Posted by Aujen on (February 23, 2012, 8:41 GMT)

MS Dhooni at present is doing what Greg Chappel did to Indina Cricket few years back. He thinks himself to be supreme and have no respect for other team members. He alwasy gives priorty to his personnel performance than to team performance. One can see any record in the one day or T-20 in this tour or the other team and you will find that when the required run rate is more than 7 runs but he leisurely plays and scroes like 30 of 50 balls. He tries to be so confident that he will score at the double the pace in the end, whcih does not happens always. It only happens once a while. He tries to be not out in the end so that his average and statics does not spoil. One can easily recall the first T-20 match agains the Austerlia this series. The required run rate was going high and high and reached more than 10 but at the end he was not out 48 on 43 balls and India lost by 31 runs and there were still 4 wickets left. He is not a player as he was before become Captain.

Posted by npse on (February 23, 2012, 8:40 GMT)

The fact is 90% of this Indian team are failures and dont deserve a spot. Sehwag has caught one catch and behaves as he has won a series for India.

This Indian team is exposed, they lack self respect and passion to play for India. Its time the entire team is put on rotation policy.

Posted by RAHUL_101 on (February 23, 2012, 8:34 GMT)

It's HIGH TIME the Indian Cricket think tank take a decision on the kind of players to be selected for different formats of the game. As we have a vast pool of talent from which players with skills matching for different formats of the game should be selected. Players like Sehwag who insist that they CANNOT and WILL NOT adapt to the situation at hand MUST BE THROWN OUT OF THE SQUAD IMMEDIATELY if INDIAN CRICKET is to progress AHEAD. If you play a Test match like a 20-20 then there is no logic having you in the team.A score of 200+ after 50 innings or so and then BLANK is NOT what the Indian team wants but a consistent performance is required.Horses for courses must be the policy and players who are unable to play on fast pitches should NOT be picked for such tours. We feel the CASH DRIPPING BCCI has enough resouces to provide a few of such bouncy pitches in INdia where the ability of the players is tested before commencement of tours to such countries where we will get bouncy pitches.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 8:26 GMT)

IT APPEARS THAT SEHWAG HAS FORGOTTEN THAT HE IS PLAYING FOR INDIA AND NOT HIS PRIVATE TEAM, IT IS REALLY STUPID TO KEEP SAYING THAT HE PLAYS ONLY LIKE THAT, FINE LET HIM HAVE A NAJAFGANJ ELEVEN AND PLAY THE WAY HE WANTS TO, HE IS NOT A KID AND MUST TAKE UP RESPONSIBILITY, JUST BECAUSE DHONI IS NOT AGGRESSIVE IT DOES NOT MEAN THE SENIOR PLAYERS CAN PLAY AS THEY PLEASE, IT IS RIDICULOUS, IT IS BIG TIME THE OLDIES BID FAREWELL TO CRICKET, THEY IN ANY CASE HAVE THEIR RETIREMENT PLAN IN PLACE IN THE FORM OF IPL, SO PLEASE MAKE WAY FOR YOUNGSTERS, THE BCCI HAS THE ROTATATION POLICY IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THE PLAYERS ARE FIT FOR THE IPL, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY AGENDA FOR BCCI THESE DAYS, YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by mrms on (February 23, 2012, 8:23 GMT)

Really good ideas, @SRIDWI.

Posted by csowmi7 on (February 23, 2012, 8:22 GMT)

the best eleven should play at all times. end of story. The side should be as follows sehwag, tendulkar, gambhir, kohli, sharma, dhoni, tiwari, irfan, ashwin, zaheer, praveen. the remaining overs can be bowled by kohli, sharma, raina and sehwag in the middle overs between overs 20-35

Posted by CricAnbu2011 on (February 23, 2012, 8:18 GMT)

The article is an apt assessment of the sequence of events leading to the precarious situation which India is in at the moment. Sehwag, Gambhir and Dhoni have been speaking a little too much for the team's comfort. In spite of their utterances, it is obvious that Dhoni is performing and Sehwag is not. it would be best for Fletcher to speak to the seniors and make them concentrate on the game first to qualify and then to win the series. They will have all the time to have their cat-fights at home once they return. Then the board and selectors can have their say. I would suggest we play the following XI in the remaining matches: 1. Gambhir 2. Sachin 3. Virat 4. Dhoni 5. Manoj Tiwari 6. Raina 7. Irfan 8. Rahul 9. Praveen 10. Zaheer 11. Umesh ...

Posted by mrms on (February 23, 2012, 8:13 GMT)

@Ashwini: "he is going to blast soon": how soon is too soon? I also used to be "damn sure" about his success, but not any more. "sometimes outsiders wonder why we do": many times, such as now, lots of Indians also wonder why they are given more chances. "this is why we are the World Champions" Aussies are World Champions too, and of four times, and that too at different venues. One important reason behind their superlative performance is that they believe in performance backed selection. "he (Viru) will come back with a bang". Eagerly waiting for that day.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 8:09 GMT)

I agree with Sourav Ganguly To make different captains for different formats: MSD- one-day; Viru- Tests; Raina/gambhir- t20

Posted by balanarayan on (February 23, 2012, 8:07 GMT)

One more comment, personally i feel that Sehwag is not a good captain. For instance , there is a sort of "gung ho" attitude where he gets even the basics wrong. The last 2 overs in the last one day match being bowled by Raina and Kohli who were bowling for the first time in the match is certainly a basic goof up. It is good to be "gung ho" and I suppose people love him for it, and cricket will be a loser if Sehwag isnt "gung ho" but I think it can just keep on in his batting, not in team management. Dhoni needs a small break, to get his test batting working, we need to keep Irfan Pathan , and build up Varun Aaron.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 8:05 GMT)

Dont understand why many people are supporting Dhoni ..He should have voiced his thought with in the team or to the management inspite of saying in public .Now this will have an huge impact on the team .

Coming to the point of seniors slow on the field ..First question is "Is dhoni as youngster or a senior " ..With 30 years of age , i really dont see him as junior . His wicket keeping is pathetic and know one knows how he will field ..I really doubt he will be as good as kohli or raina in the field .As a Captain he should inspire his players inspite of doing non-sense ..Rotation policy is good dhoni , but it should be based on Performance and not on age factor . Raina who is not in form or Rohit can be rotated .. Definitely not Gambhir who is playing well in the series .

Posted by mohanan on (February 23, 2012, 7:55 GMT)

Haddin was right then! How did he find out?

Posted by balanarayan on (February 23, 2012, 7:54 GMT)

It is still not convincing enough that there is discord in the team. Maybe it is not necessary on part of the media to bring this up at all. I do not think it should be talked about at all. This certainly shows an unprofessional attitude on part of cricket team management. No doubt that for games after the World Cup and even during it, certain weaknesses of the team had come out but there is always a transition stage. Probably the real problem is that we do not tour enough. What we need to do is play less of cricket in India and off season surely most of the players should take up county cricket. The rotation policy is good. Probably Sachin playing sporadically isnt right as Saurav said and instead he should certainly be part of the full time one day side. That would help him decide hsi one day future too.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 7:53 GMT)

drop jadeja give manoj tiwari a chance opening should be done by rahane and gambhir irfan should play all the matches bogas of the rotation policy bbowling of india hopeless at the slog overs . keep some overs of aswin, raina and praveen kumar,irfan at the death overs if vinay is played finish his overs before 40th rahul sharma given a chance manoj tiwari desperately neededin place of jadeja because srilankan tie would not have occured if in opposite somebody would have support dhoni jadejas overs can be shared by raina,rohit,tiwari and kohli upfront

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 7:51 GMT)

Dhoni's favouritism seems to be doing great harm to Indian cricket.... He's too arrogant and keeps including his personal favourites even if they dont perform in several matches one after the other .... No prizes to guess his favourtites.... CSK partner - Raina and Jadeja... both have been utter flop... same is the case with Rohit Sharma.... and look what he does - play them all and make in-form Tiwary who scored a century in his last match sit out !!!!!! Clearly proves that Dhoni as a person has started to think himself bigger than Indian cricket and giving statements against seniors who have proved themselves.....Too much EGO !!

Posted by xxfactor3 on (February 23, 2012, 7:50 GMT)

I believe sachin wants to get his 100th ton in India perhaps thats the reason getting starts n thrown his wkt away.instead of rohit tiwari shud be given a chance.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 7:49 GMT)

Well, I feel the time has also come for the selectors to start thinking about the alternative to Dhoni as a captain in Tests particularly. In ODIs the team hasn't been performing that bad, its just a matter of time and some internal situations that India hasn't been able to produce the goods but in Tests India certainly needs some revival changes. I also feel that Dhoni doesn't want Sachin Tendulkar to play in ODIs anymore and certainly he is biased towards Raina and Jadeja and ignorant towards Pathan, Tiwari and some others. For the betterment of Indian cricket, I think all the players, management and coach should work out all the differences that the team is suffering from.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 7:45 GMT)

Now Indians are making excuses for there defeats. Monga trying to say that if they did not have this crisis, india would have perform better and defeat australia & Sri lanka. Any team could have these kind of issues, Even Sri lanka & australia have there own issues, but they still manage to snatch some victories. But an far as i'm concern, these kind of articles does not stand as reasons an justify india's failures, it just worsening any issue with indian team!!

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 7:43 GMT)

i should say that the rotation policy is hopeless because when the cricketers in this tour are out of form how can they think of that.Acc. to me gambhir should play all the matches , and to continue with sachin because sachin had shown some consistencyin the tests. In the coming matches India will have to think of playing the strongest team.rohit sharma dropping out had no reasons.If the opening is a problem india should quickly sort it out as this is very important stage in this series.rather try manoj tiwari or ajinkya rahane. the best squad india should play must be 1.gambhir.2.sachin.3.virat.4.rohit.5.raina.6.dhoni.7.pathan.8aswin.9.praveen kumar.10.zaheer.11.r.vinay kumar.or rather play another batsman manoj tiwari who can do partime bowling and sit one of the bowler.parttime can be done by rohit,raina and tiwari and virat at the mid of the innings

Posted by sportsfan23 on (February 23, 2012, 7:41 GMT)

its wrong to assume that ms dhoni wants 2 have the limelight nd respect he obviously dosnt care about. The fact is dhoni wants a team which is balanced in batting, bowling, nd fielding. On a higher note, its a pretty sign 4 indian cricket that heres a leader who dosnt care about senior junior stuff but all he needs is the best team he thinks can perform....on the other hand, sehwags form is a worry and instead of talking, improving i dont realy know why hes in australia in the 1st place...it seems sehwag nd sachin r too concerned about respect nd honour otherwise they wud have opted out of the side and asked selectors to bring in youngsters instead of them,..thats if they really are so called honoured cricketers of india

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 7:41 GMT)

The problem is Dhoni is trying too many things n tricks on this very special tour..common we all know that u cant experiment new things every now n thn while touring Australia...Mighty aus barely give u the chance to rise again whn u r already down n out!!Dhoni must review his tactics...

Posted by anver777 on (February 23, 2012, 7:38 GMT)

I guess the hunger for win is missing in the Ind camp.....

Posted by SRIDWI on (February 23, 2012, 7:36 GMT)

Sachin should retire from limited overs cricket and focus fully on test cricket for the next 2 years. Dhoni should be sacked from test team and should captain for Limited overs / T20 which is his strength and not many finishers are there like him. Ideally, after this tour, sehwag should also be given break in limited overs and focus on test cricket so that if the three greats - sachin, dravid and VVS leave, sehwag can strengthen the middle order. India should go for specialist openers for test cricket and also for ODI along with gambhir. Jadeja is certainly a misfit as he gives more runs and scores meagre runs. May be we can use him only in T20, that too in sub-continent conditions. Irfan should be persisted with for some more time, as he has proven his all round capability in the tour so far both by taking wickets and also scoring decent runs. Zak should also be used in test cricket and only the youngsters should be groomed for limited overs format.

Posted by RahulBhaskaranpinarayi on (February 23, 2012, 7:29 GMT)

if there is two people there would be 2 opinion this is quite natural .Now there is no problem in the team except team is not performing well in the middle.when the team is performing every thing will vanish. All these problem are created by media team.After the Australian series there is no series out side the subcontinent so again every thing will work up to 2013.after that there will be 1 year for the wold cup.Sachin will have to play 2015 world cup because his presence in the middle is more than enough.if he cold play if his avg is 30.we seen that the youngsters are fielding very well in some matches but the same time they will field very poorly in some match so cumulatively avg.Rohit sharma droped 2 main cathes was the main reason why india lost vs aus also umesh yadav also droped hussy and dhoni and some clse in filders miassed almost 5 rum out chances and lots of over throw and wide four runs is the mian problem that is no displine in the fileld.Catches win matches.

Posted by mukesh_LOVE.cricket on (February 23, 2012, 7:26 GMT)

dhoni merely stated the truth (that senior players are a bit on slower side in feilding) and now every one is after him... why cant these fans just accept the truth and hope their heroes put in some effort and improve. why don't sehwag and sachin say they will try and improve their fielding standards ? RICKY PONTING has been AXED from aus odi squad , clarke was a part of that decision and life goes on as normal over there... Indian seniors obviously feel they are above team and all criticism

Posted by junsay on (February 23, 2012, 7:21 GMT)

Dhoni must take a break for one full series. Too much of cricket has drained him and he isnt able to make proper decisions. Sehwag & Gambhir should not be reste.d in any game. Tendulkar has to retire for reasons that Ganguly has suggested. Losing 8 test matches is a pathetic record. His batting has also suffered but I still support him as a captain.

Posted by cricket_ftw on (February 23, 2012, 7:21 GMT)

Selectors have to remove dhoni and sehwag out of the team ... They are affecting the entire team performance... I think indian team can live without sehwag and dhoni ... No point in playing these two when they dont cherish the opportunity they have been given to play for their country ... This is not streeet cricket to fight within the team ...

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 7:20 GMT)

India should learn from Australia.They never consider past records.Even Ponting has been axed after few failures in ODI.Asian countries should follow this theory.Country comes before Individual records.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 7:18 GMT)

@ rish5107 "India Still The Best Team In The Series???".....Wow, damn True Mate, India were the Best Side In the test series too, and india were the best side in England too, I mean who else can get whitewashed tour after tour, 8-0 in england 4-0 in Aussie, and now Nearly they out of CB series, so u are very right, india is the best side in the series and they will continue to play the best cricket and will get whitewashed by Bangladesh very soon,

Posted by Narbavi on (February 23, 2012, 7:14 GMT)

Had sachin retired we would have had viru and gambhir opening the innings followed by the youngsters!! This is what ms dhoni precisely wants!! Had this happened then the whole saga wouldn't have taken place!! When he puts the team ahead of himself and says he needs to review himself next year whether he would make it to the 2015world cup then he would definitely expect sachin to do the same!! MSD is obviously pondering why sachin's continuing even after the 2011world cup is over!!

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 7:07 GMT)

There are lot of written everywhere about team india, players and all. I should also share my feelings too :) Well Dhoni already told in the press about 20 extra runs by including all three. and this is baseless statment why ? If that is the case then why he has selected sehvag/gambhir in two t20 matches. That was the best time to play with two youngster instead of these two. even management must have gave break to dhoni/sehvag in both t20 and let gambhir lead the team with other opener parthiv. so I think he has problem with sachin, because of sachin his playing 11 got disturb. but he can not directly say to sachin so he come up with this strategy. one more thing may be same is true for BCCI but they don't have dare so they ask dhoni to apply this method.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 7:05 GMT)

i think saying that sachin is blocking a place of youngstar is totaly non sense, Because he hardly played ODI in last two year he gave the so much chance for new player and i think he is still playing better then some of our young player like Jadeja raina rohit .

Posted by rish5107 on (February 23, 2012, 7:00 GMT)

when the hell is india gonna win the toss to bat first .... 8 games ... and all the time chasing .... luck is sometimes a big factor .... India is still the best team in this series but when the heavens are against, nothing much can be done .... :-)

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 6:59 GMT)

like ponting sorted out things when he was captain and warne,mcgraw,katich and hadden were the few egostics in the team,dhoni should look to reunite the team..also pakistan won thw world cup in 1992 when miyadad,inzamam and wasim akram and salim malik were there,there were news of conflicts among them but they still managed to win the world cup and in 2003 world cup akhtar smashed anwar with bat and inzi sort out the things and pakistan managed to reach super6 stage... from all these examples we should learn that things with team india are very precise and can be done with captain's behaviour towards the team members.

Posted by Abhi.Kumar on (February 23, 2012, 6:57 GMT)

I remember that Greg Chappell fight Senior Players and Youngster Players to build ICC World Cup 2007.

Also MS Dhoni fight same issue to build ICC World Cup 2015.

Posted by hassanmakhani on (February 23, 2012, 6:50 GMT)

It the difficult time which is facing by the team India but they have the capability to comeback and show their telent. In my view Team India need the service of the players like Yuraj but unfortunatly he is not well so can give chance to some players like Yousuf Pathan who is doing well in bowling department and also can threating the opposition by his batting telent, secondly there is Harbajan, why he is out of the team, BCCI shoult call him back because team India need best bowling attack and he is the one who can bring the change in the situation. In my view their should change in the team by replacing Tandulkar, Raina, Ishant and Rohit Sharma with Yousuf Pathan, Harbajan, Nouman Ojha and Robin Uthapa, this change will take the team again on the top. Kindly think about that and if possible please send this message to BCCI.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 6:48 GMT)

My 2c are that one should see what are the options that the BCCI have if these 13 players are not played. Rather than talking about Sachin and Sehwag being rotated, Rainas and Rohits being dropped, one should look at the options. We can see that although there is some real exciting talent around, in pressure situations they also might perform the same way. I think the problem, which always has dogged the Indian team at large is the lack of killer instinct rather than talent. We had 2 wins in a row and the next match we drop our guard due to some real careless and casual attitude. Rather than casting aspersions on the records of Sehwag's, Tendulkars's who have given India this sort of respect, the BCCI should after each match have a person like Robin Sharma lecture them the reason of these players being with the team

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 6:43 GMT)

Is this a surprise that there is dissent in the Indian team? C'mon it is obvious. When Senior players shy away from post match media - there is something wrong. Any way this tour is over. IPL, home series will take over and the sycophancy will continue around Indian cricket.Somewhere Tendulkar will get his 100th ton against Bangladesh or Zimbabawe and he will get his ticket to hang arounfd for another ten years. Sehawag will blast BD out of the ground and he too will continue. He is a bloody disgrace with the others.

The spineless moronic selectors of the Indian team will find something to do even if they are dropped as selectors. Someone will pay the price and it will certainly not be the non performing players but the support staff. BCCI will blame them for not bringing our demi gods to proper shape. What does this all this do die hard fans like us-we just stop watching India play! Can't bring myself to support the Aussies but in future that is worth serious consideration.

Posted by Sitting-on-a-gate on (February 23, 2012, 6:35 GMT)

Dhoni wants to be the biggest fish in his pond. People dont remember how in 2008 he made Dravid (who was captain till 2/3 matches ago) sit out of an ODI. Now he is doing it to Sachin & Sehwag. In Tests he know that he is inadequate as a player hence his machinations are more subtle...Time to let captain cool cool his heels for sometime. After all long rope given and no results - the team is still losing. Time to bring back Kumble or Dravid as captain...

Posted by Siddiee on (February 23, 2012, 6:22 GMT)

Sehwag says that he is been same for past 10 years, its time to drop him and let him know that one needs to inprove continuously in any profession. SRT is good and gambhir is an ok fielder to me and are certainly better than zaheer and youngsters like munaf and ashwin whom dhoni likes to play a lot. Anyway the trio is rested to give more games to youngsters raina, rohit and jadeja who still are youngsters after playing 120+,70+ and 50+ matches. Among all this i can see yadav being used as a fifth bowler and handled poorly and havent seen rahane, tiwari get a game. Dhoni's concern may be correct theoretically but there isnt any substance to back it and it leaves one assuming that there is something more to it just than slow fielding and playing youngsters.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 6:22 GMT)

india can't win odi game without ms dhoni.......he is the best odi batsman in the world...@rashidmf and rakesh kmr shah gupta whom will you replace with dhoni...do u think any player who can replace dhoni then give me a beak....... @asgowtham.. do write sehwag's avg after playing so much of games..he stil bats like fresher in the team who gets out every time by playing rash short all the time..does he play with responsibility in any game?.......scring 100 or 200 in one game and not scoring in 50 mathes doest make him good player..... but surely R.jadeja should be replaced and y. pathan should in the odi sqd in place of him who can clear long bundaries with ease in big grounds.......

Posted by I_Love_Cricket_7 on (February 23, 2012, 6:21 GMT)

Dhoni has very limited shots he only hits the full length delivery in his arc. so is sehwag limited to offside only. OMG that jadeja, cann't handle pressure.I wonder y is he is in playing 11. I better go with a tuff guy instead of a skilled guy. But jadeja is only skilled to Indian conditions. I think Raina,Manoj,Virat,Sehwag,Rohit altogother can do jadeja's 10 over in a match.

The best 11 for the nest match is : Gambhir,virat,rohit,raina,manoj,dhoni,Pathan,Vinay,Zaheer,Praveen,Rahul Sharma (Except Zaheer & Praveen all 9 players are best feilders)

Posted by Precioustar84 on (February 23, 2012, 6:20 GMT)

Clearly media must not have anything important to write about so let's show the world about the issues inside dressing rooms of the Indian players. Ok there might be some issues with teammates but as usual why are they making it a big deal AFTER a loss rather than after a win? Wasn't everyone just praising Dhoni for couple wins? Now there is nothing but negative articles as if losing isn't bad enough. Memo to Team India players - stop opening your mouths to media like a moth to a flame and just play some cricket!!!!

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 6:17 GMT)

In India it takes a hell lot to ask question of elders and Dhoni knows about it. He could have rocked the boat pretty early but then again there is media and public. They'll again chant their support for Tendulkar and Sehwag. The way Sehwag is throwing his wicket, he does not even deserves to be in Delhi's team. Tendulka would not be playing a world cup any more. So there is no place for him in the team. Resting out for 11 months an then smoothly getting back in the Indian team talks lot about the bold lessness of Indian selectors and management.

Posted by GibyBangalore on (February 23, 2012, 6:14 GMT)

Let Sachin decide when to retire. He is a mature personality and he knows his role in Indian Cricket team. Further, he knows when to retire. He is a focoused player. Or let BCCI take initiative if they feel that his service is not enough for the game. Why do we care about the same? He had several such lean patch of form and he recovered from that very easily and efficiently. Now it is not only Sachin who is out of form, but the entire team. We should consider that Indian batsmen never go easy with bouncy pitches. "Tem India" is not playing as a team and the rifts, whatever, comes out is not good for the future of the team. Let BCCI take initiative to reunite the team India. I think Dhoni is the only player who is able to lead from the front both with batting and making decisions. If there are more "captians" in the team then the overall atmosphere would be unhealthy. Let there be a single player as captian and other players have to respect him both infield and outfield.

Posted by AnoopXI on (February 23, 2012, 6:02 GMT)

i was also very surprised wen sachin didn't retire after worldcup win.... i should say he is spoiling indian cricket now by not giving a youngster a chance to develop. the selectors shud talk to him on plans in odi's. second thing tat cause the degradation in indian cricket is labelling jadeja as an allrounder. i agree he is a terrific fielder.. but he cant bat and outside india he is a waste of a bowler.. how many times people has hit him for a six suggests his bowling. if he wasincluded in the world cup squad india wud nt have won.. if irfan can bwl decently he can play at no7 which provide a gr8 stability in the side like never b4.selectors shud not select the squad just to fill the numbers but their thot process must change. i really apreciate the australian selector for theircourageous selections.. even if india win the series selectors shld take tough decisions on the future test side or else indian cricket will lose the support of their fans and ultimately lose thr fans

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 6:00 GMT)

There is no doubt that the performance of the Indian team is very poor at the mement . Differences amongst the players will always be there specially on a long tour like this one but it should have certain limits which should not affect the performance of the team as whole.The rotation system has not benefitted at all and infact it has affected the team's performance.Sachin played a beautiful knock at perth but was rested in the next match which has broken his rythem.In my opinion Dhoni should have included all the three stalwarta in every match.Although he is giving chance to youngsters but they are not performing to their potential.Therefore the best possible side should be fielded in every match.The aim is to win but not to please any one

Posted by royaljebinking on (February 23, 2012, 5:58 GMT)

the best 11 is 1 shewag 2 sachin 3 gambhir 4 raina 5 dhoni 6 yusuf pathan 7 ifran pathan 8 zaheer khan 9 harbajan singh 10 ishant sharma 11 praveen kumar.

this team cant be beaten.

Posted by simpleadmin on (February 23, 2012, 5:55 GMT)

@Rashidmf when dhoni was not there in just one match against srilanka, saw what happened,,,they couldnt win even against Srilanka,,,,how can u drop dhoni,he is a matchwinner,most consistent run getter in world odi cricket....instead sehwag should be dropped,when u look at his record certainly u will come to know,,,sehwag cant play in pressure,,,,look at the way how sehwag got out, mind u he was captain,look at dhoni how he won matches for india as captain,,,nobody has the right to tell drop dhoni...its said by people who wont support indian team....its ridiculous comment....drop sehwag, there all issues will end,,,,

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 5:55 GMT)

where are the these guys? (harbajan, nehra,r.p.singh, sreesanth, robin uttappa, yusuf pathan, wasim jaffer and munaf patel)??????.........we should have fixed team.....then only we will win. For selector : we should take who is in the form!!!

Posted by RAHUL_101 on (February 23, 2012, 5:50 GMT)

It's HIGH TIME the Indian Cricket think tank take a decision on the kind of players to be selected for different formats of the game. As we have a vast pool of talent from which players with skills matching for different formats of the game should be selected. Players like Sehwag who insist that they CANNOT and WILL NOT adapt to the situation at hand MUST BE THROWN OUT OF THE SQUAD IMMEDIATELY if INDIAN CRICKET is to progress AHEAD. If you play a Test match like a 20-20 then there is no logic having you in the team.A score of 200+ after 50 innings or so and then BLANK is NOT what the Indian team wants but a consistent performance is required.Horses for courses must be the policy and players who are unable to play on fast pitches should NOT be picked for such tours. We feel the CASH DRIPPING BCCI has enough resouces to provide a few of such bouncy pitches in INdia where the ability of the players is tested before commencement of tours to such countries where we will get bouncy pitches.

Posted by sandeepknk on (February 23, 2012, 5:49 GMT)

It is very clear that Dhoni selecting the team for CSK fans.he wants his csk team mates in Indian team.the reason for failure is very simple.when top orders performs India win,not performing India loose.this clearly shows India too much depends on yuvraj in the middle.I think dhoni is not a match winner.he can't do anything along.he is only a supporting finisher and not out specialist.i am watching cricket morethan 30 yrs.I know that Irfan is better than jedeja and Rahul sarma is better than aswin.dhoni fears to give chance to Rahul sarma.he is thinking leg spinner,future prospect,but dhoni wants aswin only. BCCI should realize that dhoni is the best captain of the BEST Indian players only.If you want to kept dhoni as captain do one thing.selection of playing 11 should be done by the former players like sastri,gavaskar,manjarekar..or appoint an authority for selection of playing 11.

Posted by Scube on (February 23, 2012, 5:38 GMT)

Even if Raina, Sir RJ, Sir Rohit & Sir Parthiv settle down in Australia practising day in & day out for the next 3 yrs at the expense of BCCI / Dhoni and represent India in 2015 WC, I can bet my bottom dollars that we won't reach even the QF! Even if they save 20 runs limiting the oposition to 260 or 280 instead of 300, Dhoni will score 50, all young guns will score 40 & the tail will score 60! Who will score the remaining 100 to 120, Mr. Cool!?!

Posted by sm601 on (February 23, 2012, 5:38 GMT)

krish srikanth has selected youngsters who perform average that dhoni is frustrated. It is not an issue of seniors in ODI. We heard that our previous coach's key contribution was to get sewag to perform with off-the-field discipline. So if sewag is not performing the current coach is to be pulled. The middle order with youngsters is a mess. They have shot limitations and struggle to rotate strike. Kohli doesn't run between wickets developing a rythm with his partners for a long partnership. A new selector should learn from his english counterparts who have the most mature model currently among countries to bring in youngsters. Krish should have quit selection committee after the new coach came in. A new selector shouldn't mix up youngsters with IPL performance. Dhoni is talking seniors as the issue for ODI as media like to hear that. But he is frustrated with average performance of youngsters.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 5:26 GMT)

I don't think India could afford to loose a captain like MSD not in next 2-3 years at least. Player's in the pipeline are not quite good enough I would say. People keep mumbling about rohit who can't play except IPL. I think it's time for selector to decide which are the block of player's they wanna play with untill next world cup. Seems like from a neutral point of view neither raina, jadeja, vinay( I think this guy is highly overrated) should make it to next world which will be held in NZ-AUS, all them have serious issues with techniques in their respective skillsset. So look into the like of raydu, manoj, pujara and preserver yuvi, pathan bro's, guatam.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 5:21 GMT)

Sachin Tendulkar....India's Pride...Let him play as many matches no matter India is winning or loosing.

We want to see Sachin's hundred ton....It's not seniors problem...our fast bowlers don't know how to bowl australian pitches.

Posted by WellwisherINDIA on (February 23, 2012, 5:15 GMT)

Dear Sehwag and Gambir plsssssssssssssssss just ignore in future,unnecessary questions in the press meeting or in front of media, pls do not answer them,pls follow Sachin in this regard, BE UNITED UNDER DHONI, PLAY/BE GRATEFUL TO THAT COUNTRY MADE YOU SEHWAG AND GAMBHIR FROM NOWHERE...

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 5:11 GMT)

Here is something radically different. The team needs to go out on team building activities. They need to attend seminars on understanding other people, and hone communication skills for communicating with each other. They need to enjoy each others presence, which will carry on to the field. Once this happens, I'm quite sure that Sachin will get his next century and retire peacefully. That will ease the pressure on the selectors, and they will then have the conviction to drop non-performing players even if it is Sehwag. I have a gut feeling that since Sachin is still there, Sehwag is just riding on the same wave. Only then will Indian cricket get back on track. It is now a case of the off-field blues reflecting on-field. The sooner the positive changes happen, the better for Indian cricket and cricketers.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 5:10 GMT)

Hello, then why are they giving press conferences. Is it compulsory. Press Conference must be banned.

Posted by WellwisherINDIA on (February 23, 2012, 5:00 GMT)

IF INDIA NEEDS TO WIN AGAINSET AUSTRALIA , THEY NEED TO BRING RAHUL SHARMA AS THEIR MAIN SPINNER,because australians played very well ASHWIN so far specially in ondayers.Ashwin and Rahul Sharma are same kind of fielders.If Dhonii creates a proper field setting for Rahul Sharma it could be hard for Australians to play this dangerous/ genuine leg spinner. As long as enough batsmen and Pathan in the eleven india wouldnt required Aswin batting too.PRAVEEN KUMAR IS THE BEST CURRENT ONEDAY BOWLER INDIA HAS,BUT HE DID NOT GET ENOUGH OPPORTUNTY THIS TIME YET, TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THE CONDITIONS. IF WE GO BACK TO 2008 COMMBANK SERIES HE PROVED THAT, HE IS A MATCH WINNER No doubt about it. Best Indian Eleven as per batting order:-1. SACHIN, 2. SEHWAG, 3. GAMBIR,4.KOHLI, 5.MANOJ TIWARY, 6.IRFAN PATHAN, 7.DHONI, 8.PRAVEEN KUMAR, 9.VINAY KUMAR, 10.RAHUL SHARMA, 11.ZAHEER KHAN, still you can decide on Sehwag or Rohit Sharma according to Sidny situation on friday

Posted by tanweeralam on (February 23, 2012, 4:53 GMT)

@asgowtham no wander Tendulkar is so obsessed with 100th 100 ... he is from the land of statistics Had Stats been the factor Ponting could have played at least one more year without at ton based on his resent test series performance. not so for the land of stats....

Posted by CSKftw on (February 23, 2012, 4:51 GMT)

I love how our media makes it out to be some sort of ego clash or lack of hunger that's behind our losses when the truth is that our players just aren't good enough to adapt and play well in bouncy conditions and bigger grounds. After they come back to India they will beat some weak teams and then the media and the Indian public will say they're back in form, nonsense. It's no wonder the rest of the cricketing world laughs at us.

Posted by SensibleCricket on (February 23, 2012, 4:47 GMT)

Let us not forget, that this is the same Dhoni whose leadership and communication skills were applauded and even used for case studies in management schools. Our memories are too short-term. One bad series and we are already looking for scapegoats - and of all the people- we find Dhoni. What about Sehwag who has hardly had any big score in the past many outings? If the seniors want to speak, they must do so with their bats. That's exactly what Dhoni has done in more than one occasions! Gambhir could talk about how the match should have been won, but he is the culprit of getting out in the 90s when he should have been finishing the business. The seniors cannot live on their 'legendary' status, but behave like legends - like Ricky Ponting does for Australia or Sanga for Srilanka - play when the team needs you and then we will not have to 'rotate' you out. There is no harm in trying out youngsters since, yes, the next world cup will be their responsibility. So 'rest' the seniors if reqd.

Posted by CRICSL on (February 23, 2012, 4:46 GMT)

It's very funny to hear that the INDIAN team got big problems and too many excuses whenever they lose

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 4:46 GMT)

Dhoni wants to play youngsters? First let them play in the Ranji, and then select them based on their merit. Ganguly was right, the best way to develop young players is to let them play in the domestic run for a year or 2, and then start bringing them up. Bringing in a half ready player like jadeja, isn't good for the team. We need a strong NATIONAL side, not a bunch of kids.

Posted by HRISHI625 on (February 23, 2012, 4:45 GMT)

the media is spreading a terrible misconception among the people dat dere are fights goin on within the senior members of the team.....nd d non sense news channels like aaj tak organise programms on that issue.....such a shame for the media.....and whtz more sad iz dat former players like KAPIL DEV saying that the team is devided in parts...as if when he waz captain he team never lost....KAPIL should know that his time is over and he should keep his mouth shut....who d hell is KAPIL DEV to advice a retirement issue to d great SACHIN TENDULKAR..it all started with d non sense rotation policy of openers by Mr. Captain Cool..no player can perform well if he is picked for one game nd dropped for the next...nd Dhoni dsnt deserve to say that gambhir, sehwag nd sachin r slow fielders...sehwag always keep pulling up doze great catches..infact dhoni should look to improve his keepin...nd rohit nd raina are no longer youngsters..rohit has got enough chances nd now he shld b droopd frm d team...

Posted by Lovetesh on (February 23, 2012, 4:39 GMT)

I care a damn about what they think about each other. They are professional and highly paid crickerters and must perform and win matches for their country. That's the only thing I am interested in. Non performers (raina, Jadeja) should be thrown out, howsoever young they are.

Posted by Indian_55 on (February 23, 2012, 4:34 GMT)

Players like Irfan have to fight for their place in the team while others like Jadeja and Raina enjoys captains confidence...

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 4:33 GMT)

Drop shewag for at least 3 series and Tendulkar should retire immediately from onedayers !! Dhoni is doing good in onedayers so we cant not blame on his captaincy and batting !!

Posted by SachinHarishSachin on (February 23, 2012, 4:30 GMT)

Dhoni should be dropped from all forms of cricket to resolve the current crisis...Dhoni is always the political captain and he is suited for IPL only where politics play important role than talent. Also, he is truly biased as told by Kapil.

India still needs Sachin's experience may be max an year more before giving total control to the youngsters. Also, per the cricket's mantra that the team's best batsmen should be in position 1, 2 and 3 Sachin-Sehwag should open and Gambir should follow.

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (February 23, 2012, 4:29 GMT)

Sehwag wanna prove his worth before making noises...He is a burden for the team now a days...

Posted by AnilkumarPeddi on (February 23, 2012, 4:27 GMT)

Brig back utappa , manish pandey and yusuf pathan into the team in place of sehwag, jadeja & raina and then see the results

Posted by asgowtham on (February 23, 2012, 4:21 GMT)

Give me a break, folks. Sehwag is the best allrounder for India in the current sqaud (by ODI statistics).

V.Sehwag, Bat Avg - 35.32, Bow Avg - 40.48 I.Pathan, Bat Avg - 22.59, Bow Avg - 29.63 S.Raina, Bat Avg - 34.18, Bow Avg - 46.56 R.Jadeja, Bat Avg - 29.24, Bow Avg - 37.64 R.Sharma, Bat Avg - 33.14, Bow Avg - 55.00 V.Kohli, Bat Avg - 45.95, Bow Avg - 133.00

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 4:18 GMT)

Team selector must kick out dhoni from the team. It's time over for dhoni after world cup.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 4:09 GMT)

Guys, lets face it. Without Tendulkar, Gambhir & Sehwag, we could have never won world cup 2011. We Indians are emotional people. We are not like Aussies. We are different, and proud of it. I love MSD & I love Vireder Sehwag. Sehwag is an extraordinary character. I am damn sure he is going to blast soon. We Indians like to give more chances to an individual, sometimes outsiders wonder why we do. But this is why we are the World Champions. Let me tell you, winning the World Cup, that too in a pressure cooker in India for the Indian team was next to impossible. These guys did it. I love Viru, and mark my words, he will come back with a bang.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 4:08 GMT)

It seems that WINNING TOSS is more important for Indians. A player like JASU PATEL should come in the team. All the players should must leave their ego and think that they are playing for their country.

Posted by ramplestiltskin on (February 23, 2012, 3:56 GMT)

Indian cricket team is tired being in cricket since Jan 2011 . They got no rest even for a month from playing matches.

Posted by arun_an on (February 23, 2012, 3:53 GMT)

This is media created - the primary reason for rotation policy is trying out youngsters, Dhoni did not explicitly say that fielding was a reason but acknowledged it as a fact of playing seniors, this connection between fielding and rotation was made by media

Posted by happy-go-lucky on (February 23, 2012, 3:44 GMT)

@RasCric: That's how its always here in the comments section. You'll see people wanting to drop every single player. Till last season Sachin was immune to this, but now even he is not spared.

But yeah, looks like majority of the folks just want an extended session for Pathan in place of Sir Jadeja.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 3:43 GMT)

I don't understand Dhoni's obsession with Ravindra Jadeja. He has been given way too many chances and DOES NOT deserve a place in the side. I was worried if India might loose CB series after SL match and now this article has confirmed it. Mr. Dhoni, will you be able to come up with some master stroke NOW for the next two matches? If so, please sack Ravindra Jadeja. He can't and won't clear the boundary other than the IPL. Irfan Pathan and Ashwin play good all rounders' role.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 3:42 GMT)

i was surprised when shachin did not retired fron one day cricket after world cup, i seem almost imposible that he wil play next world cup, and because he has achived every feast in one day cricket what one can imagine too, unless he is eying upon 20000 runs in one day international, dhoni rotation policy on ghutam and sehwag is out of context sehwag is 33 and gautam younger than him there is ever possible that these two will in next world cup, kholi, manoj tiwari,yuvraj raina,dhoni jadeja and younger pathan, munaf , zaheer, ashwin, rahul sharma, harbhajan, ishant sharma , pravin kumar and vinay kumar are the block of plyer whome selector should look after, dhoni is a man with vision but he must undestand that without shewag ana gutam the team wil real struggle, so the rotation policy on these 2 player should be stoped yes if the form is concerned than the guy struggling must be made hard to work in net and even can be rested for time being

Posted by Rashidf on (February 23, 2012, 3:15 GMT)

Dhoni should be dropped and all the problems will be solved. Gambir should be the captain. And Sachin should retire immediatly as he is blocking the place of a youngster.

Posted by praveen4honestremark on (February 23, 2012, 3:11 GMT)

Ganguly was good captain but he should have realized himself how good a fielder he is and improved his fielding, he was aggressive but very poor fielder. Dhoni misses few takes at back of stumps, but he has lots of work at back of stumps, so Dhoni is very fit and far more athletic and on field Dhoni is best fielder, can save 10 runs. Ganguly leaks 10 runs..Dhoni plays short ball best, Ganguly is vulnerable to get out. So i have not mentioned Ganguly as best team player and capatain along with Dhoni and Kapil dev earlier in my comments, please publish my comments Cricinfo

Posted by 12kris on (February 23, 2012, 3:01 GMT)

When there are players of the stature of Sachin and Sehwag under Dhoni, there will naturally be difference of opinions. These tend to be exaggerated when the team is not playing well. But the media should refrain from highlighting these differences. Dhoni is still the best Captain we can have and everyone should rally behind him, players and the public.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 2:53 GMT)

When the team is loosing matches continuously, the frustrations and outbursts are common. Dhoni is correct in his aspect and he cannot be accused for choosing "rotation policy". When the players who got chance prove themselves, this kind of discussion would not have been necessary. If you play all the seniors and deny place to the likes of Rahane, Tiwari etc.. are you not hearing criticisms now? Let us hope the team india will forget all these silly issues and start thinking afresh about the game. Seniority should apply not only in playing the game, but also in thinking.

Posted by zaheerthetop on (February 23, 2012, 2:14 GMT)

His highness Dhoni never like Irfan His average still 29.90 as bowler he is the top after Zaheer but he never liked Irfan Why?

Posted by TRAM on (February 23, 2012, 2:00 GMT)

Selectors should boldly make Ashwin the captain. Not because he is a great player but because he is the most level headed, efficient communicator and least ego person. I cant see any one else fitting those criteria. When asked about his century in Test match he said something like "there is a gentleman with 99 hundreds sitting in our dressing room calm and quiet and what is the point in me jumping for my hundred?". I think He can be a Daniel Vettori of India. Only weakness of him is his fielding level, which I am sure he is working on.

Posted by Zoro_1 on (February 23, 2012, 1:58 GMT)

Send them all home. Have players who can be team players. Cricket is a team game not an individual one. Too much focus on averages and strike rates. It is time Dhoni stops deciding. Let the selectors do their job.

Posted by mathewjohn2176 on (February 23, 2012, 1:41 GMT)

@hhillbumper, I guess the rabble you are talking about is England team.You know why because they don't win anywhere even in home or outside.oh I forgot they didnt win a single odi world cup yet.Now you figured out.

Posted by AidanFX on (February 23, 2012, 1:34 GMT)

I will add the management of the team has been strong - giving younger lesser experienced guys all the press conferences throught the Test series. Dravid gave only one press conference to my knowledge and that was after he was dismissed cheaply so it seemed strange he took it on that occasion. Maybe the management knew of a rift and so deliberately chose Aswhin to keep taking the press - in any case it was a strange policy. And players throughout have been saying strange things.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 1:29 GMT)

More reason why Dravid and Laxman should retire. Sachin too, IMHO.

Posted by AvidCricFan on (February 23, 2012, 1:18 GMT)

Shewag has not done much out of subcontinent for a while now. His last 2-3 year's record outside of subcontinent is dismal. It is better he is shown the door. Let the team be rebuilt with young talent with right skill and the ones who are hungry and committed to perform. BCCI need to put a program in place to groom talent at very formative age by exposing them to pace and bounce as they grow. Similar approach needs to be taken on the pace bowling front. BCCI needs to provide right leadership to put a program in place to cultivate proper talent grooming.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 1:06 GMT)

such things will happen when the team doesn't play to its potential. the best way to get things straight is by playing well. Things will fall in place if India wins

Posted by T-800 on (February 23, 2012, 0:38 GMT)

Discord always exists in Team India. It only gets highlighted when the team is performing badly. Sehwag and Gambhir, both of the mare ambitious and would love the captaincy very much. Perhaps they are even qualified for it and justified in aiming for it. The problem however is that if one of them is made captain, that might not sit well with the other. Dhoni is still the best option for captaincy at the moment but as has been noted in the other comments, Dhoni hasn't been that good at spotting and nurturing new talent. Dhoni's favorite Jadeja has been performing poorly.

Posted by   on (February 23, 2012, 0:31 GMT)

Is so sad to read these news.. the team who won WC 2011 is just a past dream.. the coaching team is a disaster.. Dhoni and Sehwag fighting for who have more reason... oh lord.. save indian cricket from all this rubbish!

Posted by world.cricketer on (February 23, 2012, 0:28 GMT)

Now INDIA need rotation of captaincy Dhoni, Sehwag, Gambir...............Lols

Posted by critic666 on (February 23, 2012, 0:26 GMT)

Big egos, zero performance. That goes for both Dhoni and Sehwag. At least Dhoni has some semblance of a good performance in ODIs, but neither of them are good in Tests in overseas. I think both can be dropped in Tests when overseas. Bring someone like Pujara, Rahane or Rayudu who have some technique and give them some good chances. Not T20 products like Raina, Rohit etc. And let the team be told that if they have something to talk against another team-mate, it will be done in the dressing room like mature individuals, not in media. Anyone crossing the line should be banned fro three matches for indiscipline. This holds for Dhoni, Sehwag and Gambhir. Tendulkar must be told to pack his bags. Perhaps they can give him a big celebration for all he has done the last 20 years, but it is time to move on now. He won't be there in 2015 WC, so why hurt some other potential good player's chances of getting some experience?

Posted by hulk777 on (February 23, 2012, 0:19 GMT)

@hhillbumper, Winning a world cup at home is difficult,no team has done it, will know when Australia suck in next worldcup to prove

Posted by Al.Muthu on (February 23, 2012, 0:00 GMT)

Indian Cricket is balanced as a pen would be on the tip of a finger. The fact of the matter is that the pen will drop. Its inevitable. But someone needs to understand that it can be picked right back up again. Or newer pens can be bought. Whatever the case, the requisite message will be inked. Or in that time a newer, better message will be formed.

Indian Cricket wont die because we're having our worst run in modern history. It'll simply be born stronger. Thats what I believe and I hope my heroes and my fellow believe the same, if at least to stop all this bad blood..

Posted by uksunil on (February 22, 2012, 23:28 GMT)

Out of six, select best four batsman based on last three match performance. Similarly select two all rounder out of three. A Keeper out of two. Four best bowler out of six. Introduce performance based inclusion system.

Posted by ariyothariya on (February 22, 2012, 23:24 GMT)

Its sad to see the gradual demise of what was once a powerhouse in world cricket. AT least they have the IPL to fall back on.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 23:21 GMT)

Appoint Saurav Ganguly as the non-playing Captain.

Posted by Ben1989 on (February 22, 2012, 23:20 GMT)

based on that comment in the second to last paragraph re, sehwag plays best cricket when his mind is emptied, is it really a surprise then, that he played the best one day innings of his life when Dhoni wasn't captain?? I know he's played good knocks under Dhoni too, but it's interesting!

Posted by rajangoraya on (February 22, 2012, 23:11 GMT)

SEHWAG SHOULD OUT...Let Dhoni manage the team the way he wants to as a captain or remove him from captaincy. There is no one who can easily replace Dhoni as one day captain, so the best option is to back the captain. The problme is selects don't have in them to show door to senior players. Tendulkar is Tendulkar and only he has earned the right to call quits when he wants to. There is no room for Sehwag in overseas tours. He has done great things for India, but its time to move forward. He should GO. He play domestic cricket and them come back if he wants to play tests in India.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 22:52 GMT)

Make 11 captains and let them play!!I seriously think we all fans should be either selectors or cricketers.We know so much !!!whom to drop ,who shuld play,wat will happen after 5 yrs.Truth is we are nothing thats y we have hell lot of time to come here and comment.Either accept urself as a failure before pointing fingers to those 11 who are there on the field and trying something or become the next someone amongst those 11.

Posted by RasCric on (February 22, 2012, 22:50 GMT)

Wow, looks like every Indian is a selector here :)

Posted by WestTigerForEver on (February 22, 2012, 22:49 GMT)

Hopefully the big boys,Sachin and Sehwag, will step up and score couple of big hundreds in the next matches and win the tournment for India. This will shut everyone up.

Posted by zuber21886 on (February 22, 2012, 22:42 GMT)

If dhoni really purposely let Pathan out, why did he do that, why he doesn't like Pathan?

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 22:30 GMT)

Dhoni gave his crystal clear comment on what he feels and Sehwag said he is unaware of it, meaning the team is keeping away from reading media outputs. Now the media wants to balloon more of the same. This article is an excellent example of the same, making solid statements such as discord, dissent.

Posted by indian1980 on (February 22, 2012, 22:19 GMT)

Once again the Indians fighting each other. Indida need a new captain other than Dhoni or Shewag. Sachin shoul retire from the game for his sake and for the country.

Posted by raks_pace on (February 22, 2012, 22:17 GMT)

The youngsters for whom the entire drama is going on, here are their statistics -Kohli - 80 matches, 3079 runs @ avg 45.95, 8-100's and 20-50's. Rohit - 77 matches, 1889 runs @ avg 33.14, 2-100's and 11-50's. Raina - 141 matches, 3384 runs @ avg 34.18, 3-100's and 20 -50's. Other than Kohli, both Rohit and Raina have failed repeatedly. And there is Jadeja who has played 54 ODI's and done nothing great. Its difficult to understand why Dhoni keeps insisting they should play atleast 100 matches before 2015 world cup. They have got enough opportunities. There are better players in domestic circuit. In 2003 world cup when India reached finals in South Africa the youngsters then - Yuvraj, Kaif, Sehwag, Zaheer, Nehra, D Mongia.. none had played more than 100 matches. Still we did a good job to reach finals.

Posted by Indiaforever on (February 22, 2012, 22:08 GMT)

Why is everyone critisicing Raina? he has done decently in the games, i mean yes he hasnt played any match winning innings but he keeps on getting 30-40s and soon he will come off as a match winner. Jadeja definitely should not be in the team. Ashwin is a better bowler and batsmen than him. I agree Rohit should be given a chance but not at the expense of one of the top three, we need Sachin Sehwag and Gambhir all to fire and only then will the rest of the batting line up fire.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 22:07 GMT)

If i am the selector my indian team ll be TESTS 1.gambhir(captain)2.rahane3.pujara 4.rohit 5.virat 6.badrinath 7.saha 8.ashwin 9.ojha 10.ishanth 11. Yadav 12.zaheer 13.varun aaron 14.irfan pathan 15.rahul sharma 16. Praveen kumar 17.abinav mukund 18.manish pandey 19. Dinesh karthick 20. Manoj tiwary ( this pool of twenty players after ms take a call and fab four take a call or retire .. Close to miss out are suresh raina , sreeshant , ashok dinda .. one days and t20s 1.dhoni (capt) 2.gambhir 3.uthappa 4.virat 5. Rohit 6. Raina 7.jadeja 8. Irfan 9.ashwin 10.vinay11.yadav.12.yusuf 13. Varun 14. Praveen 15. Rahul sharma 16.manoj tiwary 17. Ashok dinda 18.ajinkya rahane 19. Saha 20.manish pandey

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 22:06 GMT)

shewag is the worst fielder in cricket history.Drop him from the squad....even sachin is lot better than him at the age of 38...and a worst captain,he cant manage the bowlers....all he can do is crack the slag deliveries to the boundary...i dont know how he is surviving in the national team with performing well once in a year,i swear i can do this too that once in a year performance

Posted by hhillbumper on (February 22, 2012, 22:04 GMT)

just one question.How did this rabble win a world cup.Oh yeah it was at home where India always wins

Posted by cricketisagame on (February 22, 2012, 22:00 GMT)

Make Kohli as captain in ODI and keep Dhoni as WK. Bring Uthappa in place of either Gambhir or Shehwag. Make Dhoni as T20 captain. Give Rahul more chances over Ashwin. Irfan over Jadeja.

Posted by ikingkk on (February 22, 2012, 21:54 GMT)

I think Dhoni is doing good by supporting youngsters. We are playing for the nation not for personal milestones. Wake up guys kick every one who doesn't perform in the series get the new blood in. They are playing for the Nation, they are here to perform. More over they are charging match fee for each outing. Just think will our company keep you if you under perform......Same as in IPL will the club keep you in if you under perform.Same should be with board.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 21:43 GMT)

This article is excellent except for one sentence "Dhoni remains the best choice to captain India at the moment". Dhoni does not deserve to be in test team let alone be captain.

Posted by Uttsbaby on (February 22, 2012, 21:30 GMT)

My comments never get published(even though full caps comments do) but i'll have a go anyway. Seems like whenever captains stand up to the way the board acts its for the best (ganguly for example). I've lost a lot of respect for gambhir and sehwag who swing out at dhoni when they've both failed in tests recently, and sehwag has flopped since that double century against an average WI side on home turf. How Sachin can be considered a flat track bully is incredible. He is one of the ONLY batsmen in the world who has succeeded in every continent, EVEN against the unbeatable Aus side of the 90's and early 2000's. So many people find any opportunity to knock the little man but remember that aged just 16/17, he faced the English bowlers and scored a century in England...none of the youngsters have even come close to that to claim his place in tests.

Posted by Vipin.K on (February 22, 2012, 21:24 GMT)

Make gambhir / kohli captain dump MSD out of the team for all formats. Use Robin Utthappa for ODI and T20 ,( Saha-karthik-Patel for Tests). ODI-11 :- Sehwag,gambhir,Virat,Raina,Robin Utthappa,Irfaan Pathan,Yusuf Pathan,Rahul sharma,P.kumar,Sachin/Yuraj & any one from (Zaheer/Yadav/Shirisanth) * sachin till yuvraj fit or the magical 100 which ever comes first.

We will have 6 Batsman, 1 bowling allrounder(I.Pathan) one Batting Allrounder(Y.Pathan), 1 leg spinner (R.Sharma), 3 seam bowlers(PK/IP/ZK/Yadav/Shree),2-3 part time bowlers(Raina/sehwag/yuvi)

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 21:20 GMT)

Axe Raina; have Rohit open with Gambhir. Kohli 1d. Tiwary 2d. Have Sachin come at 3d to stem a slide if top order fails. Dhoni 4d. Axe Jadeja.

Posted by sandyyy on (February 22, 2012, 21:17 GMT)

I always hated Ravindra Jadeja. He doesnt deserve a place in any team. T20, ODI or Test. He might have bowled well in couple of matches in India. But come on, in India, any part-time spinner can take wickets on turning tracks. If we really want to prepare for 2015 world cup, Irfan Pathan is a must as an all-rounder. He will be 30 by next world cup. He can bat and bowl. He is not express fast but he will be better than Ravindra Jadeja. Groom Ashwin to bat a bit. Dont select Raina, Yousuf Pathan until then can play short balls. Dhoni should be there as captain. It doesn't matter if you score a 90, it matters when you finish the job. If everybody is like Gambhir and throw their wicket, they will loose the match. I am sure Jadeja will be out of the team after coming IPL. Also Groom AT Rayudu to be wicket keeper batsmen. He is the best replacement for Dhoni when Dhoni retires(atleast on ODIs). Bring Dinesh Karthik to tests. He has better technique as an opener.

Posted by zhammy on (February 22, 2012, 21:11 GMT)

Do hell with cricket man. Why should we be even reading this, or be concerned about this. The entire cricket fraternity are a bunch of jokers and we are monkeys watching them. There are other serios sports in which india is doing well. we should support them..

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 21:10 GMT)

I ll support to Shewag & co... Lol....

Where z da old dhoni ???where is his cool head???? Where is his smile ??? He lost everything because Our Honorable Chief (not cheap ) selector Krishnamatchari Srikanth

Mr. Srikanth Must understand that he is not selecting team for his own club or franchise or not even to His CSK.... He is Selecting a team for our beloved The Great Indian Nation... Y hell he is showing bias on players like Pathan, Uthappa, and Y he is always showing faith towards Narandra Jadeja and few other South Indian Players ( Even i m a south Indian and pakka Tamilian and chennai kaaran ) But they way He selecting team is irritation Though he select my own Brothers and neighbors from my own city and neighboring states ....

Donno Y dhoni too joins hand with him and acting as if he is Srikanth's slave..

Plz Dhoni be how u were b4 ( cool heaed, smiling and not partial) Else Get out and give way to some true Indian...

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 21:07 GMT)

Sehwag has flopped in this tour, and thus did not do any justice his extraordinary talent. This has got nothing to do with his supposed rift with Dhoni. Sachin is a pale shadow of himself both in tests and one-dayers. Again this has nothing to do with Dhoni being the captain and calling (correctly) that more slow movers in the field cost the team. Dhoni is a shrewd captain, and usually speaks according to expectations and he stuttered in one of those meetings. That India has been outplayed is a truth every time they lost. This has got nothing to do with the rift. Dhoni has his favourites like Raina and Jadeja, and I attribute that to personal preference and opinion as every captain is entitled to have. Irfan Pathan , apparently has a lot of fan following, but performance wise as all rounder he is not ahead of Jadeja, and may on his day as good as Jadeja. The current allrounder in Indian team (Jadeja) is mediocre , at the very best.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 21:06 GMT)

No big deal...Stuff happens all the time. We are only hearing these things when the visiting team loses. These are big boys - they will move on.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 20:56 GMT)

INDIA SHOULD PACK UP AND HEAD HOME; THERE IS DISCORD AND ARE CRUMBLING AND MORE THAN LIKELY WILL NOT QUALIFY FOR THE FINALS...EXACTLY WHAT THE AUSSIES HAD PLANNED...

Posted by Vipin.K on (February 22, 2012, 20:56 GMT)

Through out jadeja & ashwin play irfaan as allrounder n rahul sharma as spinner. dump Dhoni as he is playing dirty politics to extend his career . and for those who think MSD won us the wordcup then why he could not won the Tests. Cricket is a team game . It was Sachin ,sehwag, gambhir, Yuvraj , who won us majority of the matches in WC 2011, against Africa it was Sachin, against Australia it was yuvraj,Against Pakistan it was Sehwag who derailed the inform Umar gul hitting 5 fours. against srilanka it was Gambhir and kohli who brought india back in the match after 2 quick wickets.Dhoni only came up the order to save himself if some quick runs needed in the end. see his scores in QF/SF/ leauge matches. agains S.africa india were 283/5 -43 overs MSD score 12 of 21 bolls (india 296 all out) just 13 runs 7 overs 5 wickets MSD not out. In QF - 7 of 8 balls out at 187/37.3 overs leaving last batting pair with tail to score 74 runs in 16.3 overs. SF against pak 25/42 balls. MOS-yuvraj.

Posted by vannoj on (February 22, 2012, 20:56 GMT)

Excellent article. We all knew that all was not well with the Indian team but these emerging issues are a recipe for disaster for any team. When the senior players can't work together there is bound to be a downright spiral in the performance of a team as a unit.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 20:47 GMT)

Why not no-one mentioned about Rohit Sharma and Suresh Raina ? Are they scoring runs ? Is there a good explaination on why Dhoni dragged two matches which were winnable before the 47th over to the last ball ? God ! and you Spelele you are gone to say " bullies such as Sehwag and Tendulkar". Who is not a flat-track bully in this team ? or is Dhoni so pissed off at not having Joginder Sharma and Munaf Patel. Just all i want to say is "Dhoni captined the best Indian Team , while Ganguly was the best Captain of Indian Team" . You dont have to be a genius to know these facts. Get a break guys.

Posted by Kaze on (February 22, 2012, 20:45 GMT)

sits down with a box of popcorn and watches proceedings with an enormous smile

Posted by karanjag on (February 22, 2012, 20:35 GMT)

Mr Monga, perhaps you need a lesson in critical thinking. Dissent and discord are absolutely necessary to clarify matters and does not hurt anyone. In this matter, it seems as if the older players are simply in denial of the fact that their agility and athleticism is poor. If there is no dissent, we will probably have the same players for another 5 years of 5-0 or 4-0 results just because the senior players are unfireable.

Posted by TRexGotPhD on (February 22, 2012, 20:32 GMT)

India needs Irfan Pathan. This much should be clear to Dhoni. He is the best and the only "proper" all rounder in India.

Posted by svenkat02 on (February 22, 2012, 20:30 GMT)

Throw Sehwag out from the Indian team altogether. He is a waste in all formats. Dont tell me that he is not performing because he is in and out of the ODI side due to the rotation. he has been a colossal flop and a disaster in every overseas tour. All he does is score a few big ones in subcontinent, and sticks to the team. And if Gambhir shows attitude like that often, sack him to give him a warning. And sack Dhoni altogether from the test team. He is a liability in test cricket and its a waste of time keeping him there. Make Gambhir captain in tests, Dhoni as captain in ODI's and Virat Kohli as captain in T20's. And Kohli is the deputy in ODI and test cricket. And ask Sachin about his future plans in ODI cricket. If he is just playing a few important series, then he is not needed. If he has a clear picture in mind regarding ODI's, only then should he play. Time for some tough decisions in Indian cricket.

Posted by ivorycinnamon on (February 22, 2012, 20:29 GMT)

Although I'm fairly certain my comment will not be published I will say it: This article reads as if Mr Monga has spotted a crack and perceives it to be the Grand Canyon. Every team will have healthy disagreements, mate. Let's not use this an an excuse to gloss over India's poor performance as professional cricketers in the field. Sehwag's club cricket strokes at this level can never be excused and he mustn't be seen as a victim of dressing room miscommunication.

Posted by SanjivAwesome on (February 22, 2012, 20:22 GMT)

Someone should make a bollywood film or TV serial out of this article! It will be more fun than watching our out-of-form cricketers getting blown to bits in the Australian cricket cauldron.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 20:20 GMT)

i completely agree with spelele comment, why are you pointing fingers at dhoni, and getting all emotional. your not performing sehwag that's the issue, not what anyone says or does. tendulkar and sehwag need to be out of the team, your not playing the next world cup, which is in Austrilla. and if your can't perform at 37 and 33, then how do you except to perform at 40 and 37. your hand eye will only get worst not better. 1.kohli 2.gambir 3. rohit sharma 4. manoj tiwari 5. raina 6. dhoni 7 jadeja 8. irfan pathan9.ashwin 10.zaheer khan11.umesh/vinay/praveen/rahul

roatate that 11th position with anyone of them. but this is the best fielding, running beetween the wickets talent you have on the team. p.s jadeja needs to work on his batting.

Posted by BroccoliPower on (February 22, 2012, 20:19 GMT)

Ohh you weeping ladies, get a grip.....

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 20:17 GMT)

@Spelele " flat track bullies" please check stats before pressing the enter button first. I agree that players should keep there personal differences out when on field but MSD himself should understand if u eat unhygenic breakfast, we can get ill for the whole day. Two points if fielding is the criteria to select players then ROHIT Sharma doen't deserve a place after his perfomance on the field against the aussies. I believe he is the culprit for their good start. Now please dont compare his past fielding efforts then on that stats all three deserve a place regardless of current form. If MSD really thinks that these youngsters need exposure to these situation for the next WC BCCI should allow thes men to play in some aussie states and get exposure to such situation, why give them chances and loose games. SRT should also understand he is GOD of cricket but he cannot choose and play series, One lost match against Bangladesh can through you out of an important tournament

Posted by Ukayholic on (February 22, 2012, 20:12 GMT)

Shut up and play some cricket !!

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 20:09 GMT)

They will be against each other shortly as captains.. watch out for Chennai vs Delhi vs Mumbai vs Kolkata.. Will be fascinating to watch how media reacts..

Posted by sudhir98 on (February 22, 2012, 20:03 GMT)

Is this article for real?? I think the dissention and discordance came after the losses- they did not lose because of that. The truth is, they got beat fair and square and they need to move on with a few of the seniors.It can't get any worse than this showing.

Posted by Jay_candid on (February 22, 2012, 19:56 GMT)

Time to forget all the differences and put the team first.. If India qualifies for final and wins the CB series, atleast we have some thing to cheer about this disastrous australian tour.. Again opening partnership is crucial ...

Posted by K.A.K on (February 22, 2012, 19:55 GMT)

The pressure is showing. The team needs a shrink. All they need is a bottle of IPL, and all will be good for next 6 months ( as long as we play at home only).

Posted by JohnnyRook on (February 22, 2012, 19:53 GMT)

So Sanjay, do we make batting and bowling skills negotiable. I think its all about balance. The day we get three better "deals" than Zaheer Khan in terms of bowling, fielding and fitness, he should be shown the door but till then we have to make do with him. Same thing goes with Sachin Tendulkar or any other player for that matter. Nothing is non-negotiable but nothing should be ignored either.

Posted by mukesh_LOVE.cricket on (February 22, 2012, 19:49 GMT)

@spelele - agree with you.. dhoni is the best man to lead india in ODI , and if sehwag has problem with it kick him out.. its true that dhoni is only an average test batsman..but india don't have any quality keeper batsman waiting on bench... his captaincy was a bit defensive in tests but what can a captain do when the famed top order of his team consistently gets all out under 250 ? nd a bowling attack which if you take out zak is average at best ... if they still want to change captain make gambhir captain..he is gud captaincy material ,better than sehwag

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 19:48 GMT)

i think the clash become a part rather then cricket so y these comment r giving ,what happen to dhoni who is a cool captain ,this whole statement snubs indian cricket team, as we know batsman r not performing but dont forget bowlers also not performing ,they giving 100+ run in last 10 over that make a tough target for india to achieve .india only have one gud bowler that is zaheer .except zaheer there r no good bowlers bcci have to make a good team for searching bowlers because indians r full of talent so bcci have to search that ,yousuf is a good player he should be included by dropping jdeja ,give a chance to rahul sharma nd tiwari .irfan showing good in bat nd bowl ,but he conceeded many run in bowling so he have to control that.so finally dhoni should talk to players nd forget akk the dispute nd play good cricket ,best of luck to indian team

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (February 22, 2012, 19:46 GMT)

'Differences have begun to hurt the team.' Monga obviously has too much time on his hands and an active imagination better suited to fiction novels than factual cricket. Dhoni was the captain when India won the WC last year and India was the no 1 test team for almost 2 years until last year. Sehwag hasn't scored a century overseas for 4 years and throughout his career has always been a 1 in 10 match performer. This article is nonsense. India has lost the last 8 away tests because the opposition have played good cricket and competed well and India haven't. The batters as a unit have shown they have no idea how to bat overseas and the bowling has been hopeless. If I was an overpaid underperforming player I would want an article like this to deflect attention from my cricket. When does the IPL begin?

Posted by We_Rock on (February 22, 2012, 19:44 GMT)

When Viru scores, he alone can tear apart the opposition, and when Dhoni deciedes not to get out and take India home in difficult situations, he rocks. These two are the most important players in Indian Team right now. So, I would request all the fans of Indian team to stop taking either Dhoni's or Sehwag's side. This will spread more hatred and differences amongst the team..(If actually there is a rift b/w Dhoni and Sehwag). Sehwag is just an inning away, when He will shut the critics mouth. The caliber that Dhoni has is also unmatchable. Lets keep our finger's crossed for the next two matches of India. I hope, India fights back hard to take away this Title...Jai Ho...! Dont Forget...Tendulkar and Sehwag are the only double centurions in ODIs. One does it first, and second does it even better...India rocks..when Sehwag rocks. Go Sehwag Go..! Dhoni Bhai..U r a gem, India can never get a player like you. (Kapil Dev cant come back in the India Squad )

Posted by A_Fan on (February 22, 2012, 19:44 GMT)

So Mr Monga and Sundar, are you saying that investing in youngsters is a waste of time? What is your problem with Dhoni? Why shouldn't Dhoni be non-commital about his Test career? Dhoni is an ordinary keeper and ordinary batsman in Tests, but does that make him responsible for 8 Test defeats? How many centuries do Gambhir, Sehwag and Tendulkar combine have on tour in England and Australia accross all formats, practice games included? Add VVS to it and you will know what the term evil media refers to. Yellow journalism??

Posted by Sriram_Krishnamurthy on (February 22, 2012, 19:43 GMT)

@splele - Since when did Sachin become a flat track bully?? He was recently given an award for his 146 in Cape town against a red hot Dale Steyn. Flat track bullies would never be able to do that... Oh man, u definitely need to watch more cricket

Posted by Leggie on (February 22, 2012, 19:39 GMT)

Yes, the press conferences and the statements are baffling even for knowledgeable cricket fans. This is certainly not not made up by the press. One did get the feeling that Dhoni was not comfortable making one of the big four sit out - fearing a backlash. In fact he didn't take a hard stance even against Gambhir - though he looked completely out of sorts on bouncy tracks. However Dhoni erred when a. letting the public know that the Sehwag, Gambir & Sachin were slow, b. protecting the likes of Raina, jadeja even when they failed.

Posted by Lubs on (February 22, 2012, 19:36 GMT)

As a South African, its obvious that there is much regional/IPL loyalties and bias. Sehwag is out of form and a very weak captain. Dhoni id the only man for the job So stop whinging and show some guts team India. Ur too soft and fickle

Posted by wildnaphtha on (February 22, 2012, 19:31 GMT)

Central to issue is how long will the seniors be allowed to continue failing? If you try the youngsters and allow them to fai, at least you are buying arian check and building for the future. In cricket or any field, there comes a time when people need to retire are even made to retire.

Posted by NikSaid on (February 22, 2012, 19:29 GMT)

Its simple. Money follows Indian team. So why would cricinfo not play that game and write ANY thing that generates web hits. This article must be top rated for a week, as almost ANY news related to Indian team does, EVERY SINGLE DAY AT Cricinfo.

Posted by Nampally on (February 22, 2012, 19:27 GMT)

It is abundantly clear to most Indian Cricket fans that there are 3 major shortcomings in the indian team: (1).Team unity is absent(2).Dhoni's XI selection highly flawed (3).The senior cricketer are dissatisfied with Dhoni resulting in their poor performance. BCCI should have sent a respected PR guy like Anil Kumble to unite them long back & get them to perform as a team. Writing was on the wall when Dhoni refused to include Pathan in XI as all rounder or include Rahul as a spinner. He preferred Jadeja over these 2 +Ashwin!. The rotation of top 3 is absolutely crazy when these 3 are the heart of Indian batting. Rotate the middle 3, if he wants youngsters in ! Pathan has proved his superiority over Jadeja.It is hard to imagine Sachin & Viru failing so often, for any other reason other than their anguish with Dhoni's crazy tactics.These 2 are the top batsmen in the world. The same applies to ZAK & Yadev's bowling.If Dhoni cannot field a united team, India needs an alternate Captain.

Posted by sathish008 on (February 22, 2012, 19:25 GMT)

stop attending press conference for sometime. That would solve these rumour or whtever you call. Nevertheless we are not playing good cricket.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 19:24 GMT)

Totally agreed with Rahulcricket007. u took my comment. Jadeja is a real waste. I CAN ASSURE ALL INDIAN FANS THAT IF IRFAN PATHAN FLOPS IN NEXT MATCH AGAINST AUS THEN HE WILL BE DROPPED INSTANTANEOUSLY FROM TEAM WHILE PLAYERS LIKE JADEJA WILL BE KEPT IN THE TEAM EVEN AFTER MANY FAILURES ( T20 WC 2009 , T20 WC 2010 , HYDERBAD ODI AGAINST AUS IN WHICH SACHIN MADE 175 & WAS OUT WHEN INDIA NEEDING ONLY 18 RUNS FROM 17 BALLS WITH LEAVING 4 WKTS IN HAND YET JADEJA CAN'T BRING INDIA HOME & INDIA LOSE GAME BY 3 RUNS , IST ODI AT MCG WHERE JADEJA LEAKS 41 RUNS FROM 2.4 OVERS , TIED MATCH AGAINST SL WHERE HE MADE ONLY 3 RUNS FROM 10 BALLS) dhoni makes partiality to players like Pathan Brothers, harbajan, sachin, sehwag etc. he wants his CSK teammates like Raina, Ashwin, Jadejain the indian team( all dhoni's chelas). He droped inform Yuvaraj singh for raina in test match against Srilanka. gave 50+ chances in odi for waste so called jadeja & not enough chance to real allrounder Irfan pathan.

Posted by ZedInLosAngles on (February 22, 2012, 19:15 GMT)

Definitely, Sehwag seems to be carrying something on his shoulder for quite some time (atleast since the first Aus test). He has been playing shots that can only get you out. This may have been on intention? I can't believe they were simply see ball, hit ball. You've got use your brains too. I guess he used his brains for the wrong purpose. My gut feeling is he turned on Dhoni when Dhoni made the wrong decision to field after winning the toss.

Posted by rajangoraya on (February 22, 2012, 19:14 GMT)

DROP SEHWAG... He has had a decent career but his time is OVER. We respect you Sehwag but its time to move on.

Posted by kartikeysoni on (February 22, 2012, 19:08 GMT)

@spelele i never knew that we play a captain and 10 players who are in good terms with him, i always thought its select 11 best player and make the best of them the captain. if you think that sachin and viru are flat track bullie iam not sure what will you call certain mr raina and sharma not to mention other so called yengster who regularly feature in the team of the basis of sweet memory they generate during IPL which is like heaven of flat track bullies. i would like to see dhoni to upgrade himself from a generous alm giver to his fav's and his employers fav (read CSK players) and maintain a common policy for every one, if seniors should stay out for leaking 20 runs in a game people like jadeda should be kept out for costing team a total of 30 run every match ( +20 (fielding) - 20 (bowling) -30 (batting)@7) ). and first and foremost dhoni should excuse himself from test using same principal, he is a useless batsman and a test team can do without such a useless batsman at no 6 or 7.

Posted by WishIndiaImprove on (February 22, 2012, 19:06 GMT)

Great!!! Team India is keeping us more involved in the media than field. We can sleep during the game and read cricinfo next day for all gossips. Dhoni & Sehwag... please understand that you are playing for the nation not for your family. BCCI / Team manager, if you could not resolve this problem...send them home...find a new captain and players

Posted by lananad on (February 22, 2012, 19:05 GMT)

I think Tendulkar show give way to youth without been selfish. He is trying to get a 100 for his personal gain. We all know if he scores India lose,specially high pressure games. 23 years of him is more than enough. please retire without been selfish.

Posted by usernames on (February 22, 2012, 18:58 GMT)

Dhoni is the best captain we've had in ages, in ODI cricket. He knows that keeping the likes of Sehwag, Tendulkar, et al in the team serves no long-term purpose, specially not in Australia (keeping in mind 2015). I don't see why either Sehwag or Tendulkar are playing, at all. The team isn't going to move forward until you push for youngster. Had Ganguly & Dravid not been ousted from the ODI team, April 2, 2011 would not have happened.

Posted by CaptainKool on (February 22, 2012, 18:58 GMT)

I think media is exaggerating this topic. You can say there are differences in opinion of individuals but I don't think there is rift among these players. I hope things sort out soon. I have great respect for all seniors and MSD. Irfan is having hard time. Although he is performing well but team is losing on other side. I hope they won't make him drop.

Posted by AbAdvani on (February 22, 2012, 18:57 GMT)

Dhoni has been a total disaster at man-management. There was no need to mention about senior players being slow on the field to the media (when there are likes of R.Ashwin and Parthiv Patel who Nasir Hussain called "donkeys in the field" ). The rotation policy was a disaster -what is the need for rotation policy when the next world cup is 3 years away (Does Dhoni remember what the team looked in 2008 and what finally took shape in the 2011 world cup ?) ? If the idea was to do a rotation policy -why does a youngster like Rahane not find space in the team -atleast he could be tried as an opener with both the likes of Sehwag and Gambhir in their thirties now? Dhoni is pushing his favorites like Raina/Jadeja (remember how R.P Singh ambled in to bowl at 118 kmph when asked to dump his vacation in Florida and rush to England ?) -Dhoni is running out of cover now

Posted by Optimistix on (February 22, 2012, 18:57 GMT)

Sachin is a flat track bully, and not only Virat, but even Rohit and Tiwary are players who perform under varying conditions? I actually like those three guys, but Spelele's comment was beyond hilarious :-p

It's amazing that someone can call Sachin a flat track bully just because of two modest series, after many outstanding performance under bouncy as well as seaming/swinging conditions over his career, including the classic duel against Steyn in SA just a year ago. I'm no blind fan of Sachin or anyone else, but to call him a flat-track bully, you have to be a blind hater.

Posted by sandunk on (February 22, 2012, 18:55 GMT)

I thought this was a fair and good run down of the all the events. Reading it now does put a lot of things in perspective and a clear cut difference between Dhoni & Shehwag at least. Dhoni should take a lesson from Clarke, and how well he has handled not only the team but also senior players.

Posted by thinktank1 on (February 22, 2012, 18:54 GMT)

Nitin Sundar - Why this article ?? You are doing much damage by writing such an article at this stage. Shame on you for creating panic in Indian fans.

Posted by alltimegreat on (February 22, 2012, 18:51 GMT)

I have been following all the press conferences of the Indian team in this tour and so bizarre is how media is going about twisting the whole idea to the fans. First they say Indian team is not practicing for the matches!! They ask Dhoni why ..he says to divert the attention so that the players can be fresh..the whole point is changed when I heard the news!! Next Dhoni on rotation policy ..when he didn't the whole media was after him and when he reveals why..they go to Viru, Gambhir and ask are they slow fielders...and when everything is over and team isn't playing games for a week..they go to BCCI and ask is there any rift in the team...Nice..very Nice...

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 18:49 GMT)

You don't need to be in the dressing room to figure out whats going on. Indian team is a mess with top 3 lacking form and waiting for big innings, youngsters trying to overcome the elders by performance while having little success; Dhoni's ego as "winning" captain not at rock bottom. He is trying to find out someone to blame. It is easy to blame on top 3 as they are not performing as per expectations. Now when he would lose without the top 3, it would be easy to blame on the young ones too.

The point is, India is lacking talents. They will lose with or without the unnecessary controversies.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 18:44 GMT)

First the Selection Committee needs to select good team. How this Parthiv Patel came in team again; he failed against West Indies in West Indies and in India also. Then he played Renji; every match he failed. Then how he came in team? Umesh Yadav failed continuously; even though they continuing with him again and again. why? Same in Shewag case. First he needs to play well then he can say about rotation. Otherwise after two more match they can sit in home and they can continue their rotation policy there. Look Sri Lanka and Australia; all rounder's have their strength. But India includes only one Irfan Pathan. If previous match one more all rounder in place Umesh or last bowler place sure he can support Pathan and the result not same. Sachin Rana, R Bhatia, Suryakumar Yadav, TP Sudhidra, Mandeep Singh, Abhinav Mukund, STR Binny, AA Chavan; like these So many players waiting for chance. Before their retirement they will get any chance??

Posted by donda on (February 22, 2012, 18:36 GMT)

Dhoni it's time to take decision , either you are going to stay captain or these seniors will be out of the indian team. Duncan fletcher is not a good coach and not a good influence on the team at all. They day he took over all the bad things are happening to indian team.

It's time for Sachin to retire, Sehwag to score runs otherwise india will fall.

Posted by JohnnyRook on (February 22, 2012, 18:34 GMT)

Just curious, why is rotation only limited to openers. Why can't Rohit Sharma/Suresh Raina make way for Ajinkya Rahane/Manoj Tiwary. Also I think Tendulkar should be told to either be available for all ODIs or just retire from the format. Picking and choosing series was fine till the world cup, not anymore.

Posted by Gupta.Ankur on (February 22, 2012, 18:33 GMT)

When things go wrong, indian media makes it worse.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 18:31 GMT)

Fletcher Should be fired! Team is better with part time coaches if not make Ganguly Coach.I like his attitude and guts!!. India cant do owrse then this anyway. Dhoni was selected in the team cuz of his hard hitting ability. I still believe there is no better hard hittter of cricket balll better then Yuvraj(out to injury) and DHONI. He should do his job and let raina and rohit learn to be finishers..he is just putting pressure on them telling them to keep up with the run rate...Naturally they r middile order batsmen who seal the game once settled in...but since DHONI is doing that..they have to turn into hard hitter which doesnt make sense.sack him from india captain..that will bring out best of him as player. Kohli Should be captian Since he plays all format and is experienced enough to captain in t20s ans ODI. For Tests Give captiancy to Sachin...if he doesnt do well...it will help him to realize to retire with dignity...if he does well that will be countrys tribute to the legend.:)

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 18:29 GMT)

As you said, Dhoni is the best person to lead india. He has the most matured brain. Someone need to tell Gautam Gambhir and all others that they needs to fall in line. Sehwag has played himself out of the team. Sachin is at his worst this series with his familiar out of the offstamp problem, but still better than Sehwag. Manoj Tewari should replace the talented but flop Rohit Sharma. Vinay should play only Karnataka and IPL. Pace bowlers should be chosen in this order Zaheer, Irfan, Umesh (he leaks, someone needs to advise), Praveen. Raina is a good bowler, and intelligent too. I thought Virat Kohli was a captain prospect, but after is 3 suicidal long on shots against Srilanka, in 2 of which he got reprieve, and getting involved with public, I don't think so. Dhoni should be there for next 10 years, if Raina does not become captain.

Posted by JohnnyRook on (February 22, 2012, 18:29 GMT)

Also I don't know how many more chances do we want to give Rohit Sharma and Jadeja. They have played 75+ and 50+ matches resp but are still young guys. People say why is SRT playing this series. Fact is that in England series, we didn't have him so we had to go and beg Dravid to come back bcoz our younsters aren't good enough. And why should they be when they just don't need to. Indians talk a lot about following Australian way of firing oldies if they don't perform. I think they should also talking about how Australians take in the guys only after they mature up as cricketers. Just take a look at current Aus team's age vs number of matches played and compare it to Indian team. So to put it in a nutshell play your best 11 players. Let oldies know that they have to perform to be in the team and let youngsters also know the same

Posted by nyc_missile on (February 22, 2012, 18:24 GMT)

Arrow Bowman &leobybirth- Spot on,Dhoni seems to think,esp after WC that he is indispensable and deliberately undermining 'seniors' thereby messing up their confidence and flow.He is following the divide/rule policy which is hurting the team badly.And as Arrow said,he is the worst spotter & utilizer of talents,I mean Tiwari & Pathan till recently,were sitting.His CSK favorites Jadeja,Raina continue to play all matches despite failing4 so long.Sehwag&Sachin need to score runs soon but its ridiculous to state that 20 runs will be lost by having all of 'em,to my knowledge,neither of them drops catches nor have dropped any,this tour.I didnt include Gambhir in the 'seniors' coz its a joke,at 30 he is in fact younger than Dhoni by a few days !I think Dhoni has lost it &gone nuts prematurely worrying about his captaincy even in ODIs where he is better at ease.Clear that he is desperately trying to cover his utter failures in tests by diverting attention to 'seniors' fielding,dump him please!

Posted by MaruthuDelft on (February 22, 2012, 18:23 GMT)

Hang on. Dhoni's success in ODIs T20s on foreign soil came about when Kumble produced some magic. I don't know what but Kumble really did something. India's test win in Perth in 2007/08 is the most convincing considering conditions, opposition and most importantly the keenness opposition showed to down India in India's 85 year history. After that Dhoni won the triangular ODIs. Without a manager Kumble managed to deliver a test series victory for India in England in 2007. Dhony won T20 WC just after that. Kumble somehow gave some momentum to the minds of players which passed onto the matches Dhoni won. Apart from that Dhoni never did well in foreign soil. In 2 T20 WCs Indias performances were very bad. In SA India won 2 ODIs but they were not convincing. Dhoni is not good as it appears if you bother to analyse.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 18:23 GMT)

Great work in editing the copy Nitin Sundar!!!!

Posted by JohnnyRook on (February 22, 2012, 18:22 GMT)

I think both Sehwag and Dhoni are in wrong as of now. Sehwag is taking "This is how I play" sentiment a little too far and should be dropped sooner rather than later instead of rotating him. On the other hand Dhoni is equally wrong in branding seniors as terrible fielders in public and doing so incorrectly. How can having one of SRT, Sewag and Gauti out of the team save 20 runs in the field. Other than the wicketkeeper does the ball even reach a particular fielder so many times. Especially when SRT and Gauti are about par with Indian fielding standards. Other than Kohli, Jadeja and Raina, other eight are about as good/bad fielders as others. So publically denouncing seniors as bad fielders and that too incorrectly is ridiculous. All in all India should stop thinking about senior, junior, 2015 world cup blah blah and just play best 11 players.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 18:22 GMT)

@ rahulcricket007 spot on.... the only match I recall when some buddy give me lecture about ravindra jadeja( sir ) .... one more thing India haven't won any series with 3 or more teams when jadeja as team member.

Posted by JohnnyRook on (February 22, 2012, 18:22 GMT)

I think both Sehwag and Dhoni are in wrong as of now. Sehwag is taking "This is how I play" sentiment a little too far and should be dropped sooner rather than later instead of rotating him. On the other hand Dhoni is equally wrong in branding seniors as terrible fielders in public and doing so incorrectly. How can having one of SRT, Sewag and Gauti out of the team save 20 runs in the field. Other than the wicketkeeper does the ball even reach a particular fielder so many times. Especially when SRT and Gauti are about par with Indian fielding standards. Other than Kohli, Jadeja and Raina, other eight are about as good/bad fielders as others. So publically denouncing seniors as bad fielders and that too incorrectly is ridiculous. All in all India should stop thinking about senior, junior, 2015 world cup blah blah and just play best 11 players.

Posted by Gkr_Sabka_Yaar on (February 22, 2012, 18:21 GMT)

Does planning for future means messing around with present!! If Dhoni wants that in name of preparation for next world cup younger generation should be given license to lose then god save Indian cricket!

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 18:20 GMT)

there is nothing to worry abt india's failing, they are flat track bullies so hw they win in aus? and Without Dhoni Indians Team Looks Like bunch of Child Who Lost Their MOM

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 18:20 GMT)

I think this article reads in between the lines a little too much. I'm still convinced there is a fair amount of unity. I do concede there has probably been a number of disagreements, but it doesn't mean that Dhoni and Sehwag/Gambhir don't see eye to eye.

Posted by Rolling_in_The_Deep on (February 22, 2012, 18:19 GMT)

Totally agreed with the Argument about Jadeja and Irfan Pathan.. Somehome Pathan does not get into Dhon's scheme of things.. He is a far better alrounder than Jadeja.. Moreover he is more suited to Aussie conditions. If this tournament was in India then one can understand the strategy of playing with Jadeja but it does not bode well in Australia.. This rift may cost India a spot in final.. lets c

Posted by Mr.Deepu on (February 22, 2012, 18:17 GMT)

indian team cant afford to loose both of these players shewag and dhoni, all shewag wants to do is a middle order position where he started his carrier, not a bad idea. but little hard to digest for a captain. should learn frm srilanka, changing the bating order every day, for d betterment and they r successful. there nothing wrong in experimenting

Posted by mohdshujathali on (February 22, 2012, 18:17 GMT)

The Indian team should be like this1.Gambhir,2.Sehwag,3.Sachin,4.Manoj Tiwari,5.Kohli,6.Dhoni,7.Irfan,8.Ashwin,9.Zaheer,10.Praveen Kumar,11.Vinay Kumar.I think this will be a good combination and in the best interest of the team.Raina and Jadeja are just fielding in the team so they can take the rest as per the rotation aka losing policy.

Posted by Rajesh. on (February 22, 2012, 18:16 GMT)

Simple solution..... bring back Greg Chappell as the coach, all the players will re-unite :))

Posted by anoopv on (February 22, 2012, 18:13 GMT)

All the so called youngster played more than 50 matches, so please don't call them as youngsters. Other than Virat Kohli none of them are talented and deserve a place in the current team. Dhoni is blindly backing up these guys without any reason, come on how many players will get a chance like Rohit to be in the team after consecutive failures, this is extra luxury for these guys, Dhoni has to support them based on performace not by his IPL team mates. Rohit : match : 77 , Runs : 1889 , Avg : 33.14 Raina : match : 141 ,Runs : 3384 , Avg : 34.18 Jadeja : match : 54 , Runs : 848 , Avg : 29.24

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 18:08 GMT)

Nice article that sums up the situation well. I did not agree with this statement though - "Dhoni remains the best choice to captain India at the moment". How did you come to this conclusion? Might be better to say - "Dhoni remains the best choice to captain India in ODIs at the moment". I dont think Dhoni earns his keep in Tests. Time to move on to Saha or someone else. Also, what is the media definition of "Senior"? I dont think you should generalize people who are older than "X" years as Senior or Old - especially in these days when fitness standards are high. If someone plays fine, and is athletic at 45, why shouldnt he be in the team? For instance, I dont see Sachin any better or any worse fielding wise in the last 20 years. Should Rohit Sharma be in the team, just because he is in his twenties?

Posted by Technical-1 on (February 22, 2012, 18:08 GMT)

India.. On her way down like the Mighty West Indies. They Forget that it is God that Allowed them to be on top! When you start to look at yourself as your Power then you fail.. Hence West Indies.. Its like as self Curse.. Egocentricity is a sickness of the Mind.. Devoid of the presence and Power of the Almighty God.

When folks learn how to humble themselves and know that there is a power greater than you.. Then peradventure things will change for the better.

Devon L Wilson Amazon Author of the Sanctuary the Open Door. A True Jamaican and West Indies Cricket Lover.

Posted by ada007 on (February 22, 2012, 18:06 GMT)

lets scrap the whole team and start fresh with the under 19 team

Posted by BestIdea on (February 22, 2012, 17:57 GMT)

Of all the Cricketers i have ever seen, Dhoni is by far THE BEST of all as a HUMAN BEING.. I can easily say that it's not in his nature to involve in this kind of rifts or provoke these kind of rifts in the team. And also Sehwag never looked like he gets involved in the team. He doesn't even know what is happening in the team.. He is like a body present mind absent kind... Open ur eyes Sehwag.....

Posted by Andanio on (February 22, 2012, 17:54 GMT)

It is sad to see India's famous batting line up with its talented seniors and juniors failed to deliver again in an overseas tour. Does BCCI seen this coming or were they too busy with their sponsorship and IPL issues? Australia handled Ponting situation very gracefully. Gave him a chance to perform on his HOME TURF one last time to earn the respect and show his batting dominance. BCCI's match fixtures with all the key players playing important games overseas is not only going to put lot of pressure on seniors but also going to make difficult for juniors when it comes to next set of players selection. SRT, VS, RD, VVS will retire but did BCCI treated them gracefully or played a part to earn their last ovation. Every team suffer loss of its great legends and in those difficult times Team management has to step in. Needless to say the cracks in team India were evident to Aussie management very early (Haddin's comments on rift during test series) than general media.

Posted by Indian_55 on (February 22, 2012, 17:51 GMT)

Selection of Playing XI has been biased throughout... Don't know why Jadeja is still in XI... what about other youngsters like Manoj Tiwary.

Posted by faisalmdvm on (February 22, 2012, 17:50 GMT)

Dhoni has been biased in team selection. After all what has Sir R. Jadeja contributed to the team and he even played ahead of Aswin in one of the matches. Y. Pathan was never given the chances jadeja got. Poor chap always played down the order when there were 2 to 3 overs left and ended up throwing his wicket away. Had jadeja stayed ther and supported irfan the other day probably the result could have been better. And Raina and rohit however talented they are, it's time somebody said Dhoni- mate you ought to change your car's battery . And the stupid rotation policy had put immense pressure on seniors to perform and prove their worth. 20 runs saved probably can win a game out of five. But 150 runs made by three individuals can be of better impact. Hop Dhoni play toward in the next game. Zaheer ahead of umesh of fit, else praveen. Play all the seniors and play irfan up the order. He desereves more than what he gets.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 17:50 GMT)

Hey, I requesting everybody please stop critising Rohit Sharma. He is a master claas batsman. He won Man Of The Series awards in last both ODI series he played. So after performing so well how can he be useless after just few failure. Who is consistant in Australia ? Including masters like Sachin, Dravid, Laxman everybody is struggling. So after sitting without a single match practice he started playing one days. Remember he also showed his class in current tour also as in the beggining he scored nice runs in practse matches cse he was in full flow. But after so big gap anybody can struggles. Plus luck is a big facter. Just in last match Kohli and Raina got 3 lives. I am sure Rohit will come good in remaining matches at right time. Lets start wishing him all the best. Look if we think about Manoj Tiwary right now it will be risky for both of them. How can we expect Tiwary to perform immediately in Australia ? So its always better to give chance to Rohit sharma. Come on Rohit

Posted by Spelele on (February 22, 2012, 17:35 GMT)

Oh so now Sehwag's poor form should be attributed to 'change room drama'? Give me a break! There is always an event in the Indian dressing room which is always made up as an excuse after consistent poor performances. Dhoni is an exceptional captain in ODIs. If any player has a problem with him, then that player should go. India has enough talent; they don't need flat-track bullies such as Sehwag and Tendulkar. Get other capable players like Virat, Tiwary, Rohit etc who can play in varying conditions into the team and give them a long run. Sticking with old, slow non-performers will hurt India unless Dhoni continues to stand his ground. The oldies must shape up or ship out! It's time to make fitness in the Indian squad non-negotiable. That is the only way that India can compete with athletic sides like SA, Aus etc in the 2015 world cup. At this rate, India have no chance of defending their title.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 17:34 GMT)

Its is very clear that media is blowing things out of proportions...when team is losing there is always a chance to have difference in views.. tht doesnt mean any RIFT in the team.. and there is no necessisty tht people (dhoni and viru) need to be frnds.. its more imp tht they respect each other as players.. and tht is happening .. just tht we are no playing good cricket..

Posted by KilleRB0Y on (February 22, 2012, 17:18 GMT)

i personally feel these conflicts have affected the Indian team's batting a lot. Dhoni n viru must find a way to compromise..

Posted by mukesh_LOVE.cricket on (February 22, 2012, 17:17 GMT)

dhoni and coach fletcher should put their foot down and bring some clarity to the proceedings... i have always been a supporter of dhoni , he is still the best man to lead india , but entire team at least from outside looks to be falling apart. if he thinks viru and sachin are not doing enough to be in the team he should rest them and play someone else.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 17:11 GMT)

The article makes perfect sense and rightly points out that the Indian team is a divided unit. Adding to the squad's woes is a coach who only looks on silently rather than taking any proactive measures. We need Sourav Ganguly to come in as manager / mentor / coach to come in and talk sense into these boys. Else India will remain as hopeless and pathetic as they have been in England & Australia.

Posted by CSK_chennai on (February 22, 2012, 17:03 GMT)

Team Ind leave all these rift behind and play natural game and put 100% effort to win next two game... once you do that... everyone close their mouth.

Posted by Unmesh_cric on (February 22, 2012, 16:48 GMT)

I know this is a serious article..but this thing cracked me up "The situation is not downright nasty yet, in that this still falls in PG category as opposed to the R-rated times of Greg Chappell and Sourav Ganguly."...still remember Chappell-Ganguly clash...good times those :-)

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (February 22, 2012, 16:40 GMT)

I CAN ASSURE ALL INDIAN FANS THAT IF IRFAN PATHAN FLOPS IN NEXT MATCH AGAINST AUS THEN HE WILL BE DROPPED INSTANTANEOUSLY FROM TEAM WHILE PLAYERS LIKE JADEJA WILL BE KEPT IN THE TEAM EVEN AFTER MANY FAILURES ( T20 WC 2009 , T20 WC 2010 , HYDERBAD ODI AGAINST AUS IN WHICH SACHIN MADE 175 & WAS OUT WHEN INDIA NEEDING ONLY 18 RUNS FROM 17 BALLS WITH LEAVING 4 WKTS IN HAND YET JADEJA CAN'T BRING INDIA HOME & INDIA LOSE GAME BY 3 RUNS , IST ODI AT MCG WHERE JADEJA LEAKS 41 RUNS FROM 2.4 OVERS , TIED MATCH AGAINST SL WHERE HE MADE ONLY 3 RUNS FROM 10 BALLS)

Posted by zkhan12 on (February 22, 2012, 16:38 GMT)

It's never too late for the indian team,insted of digging out the rift started with in,get back to the basics and perform like a cohesive unit,we are in a middle of a tornament & our chances to qulify for the final seem to slighter,so get on with the game with effective combination,sehwag seems to be out of touch,so do no include him,my playing 11 would be sachin,gambhir,kohli,raina,manoj tiwary,dhoni,pathan,zaheer,jadeja/ashwin,praveen kumar.i would give benefit of doubt to raina,coz he still has the character to deliver in the crunch situation,& jadeja over ashwin coz jadeja is also a productive spinner,& can expect atleast 20 odd runs(cnt expect too much frm him).this team would definately win.ALL THE BEST

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 16:37 GMT)

This internal politics is more fun to follow than watching Indian cricket at the moment.

Posted by the_blue_android on (February 22, 2012, 16:32 GMT)

Sehwag is not fit to be an international cricketer. His body isn't that of a sportsman. And his technique? Lets not even go there! Sehwag must be dropped for a real test batsman like Rahane,Mukund and Pujara.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 16:28 GMT)

Dhoni should get the boot as captain in all forms as he is incapable of spotting new talent & also is creating problemes for legendary seniors who are way bigger than him. Sehwag should captain India for a year or 2 & Ashwin should take over.

Posted by   on (February 22, 2012, 16:02 GMT)

I was waiting for someone to speak out on this subject. Someone had to put it all in perspective. Good on you, Mr. Monga.

Posted by leobybirth on (February 22, 2012, 15:59 GMT)

Delhiites in general and sehwag and gambhir in particular have always been forthright

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