England v India, 2nd npower Test, Trent Bridge, 4th day August 1, 2011

Robust England are beginning to develop an aura

Despite losing Chris Tremlett to injury a dominant England surged to a 2-0 lead and must now consider the fantastic opportunity that lies in front of them
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Lord's was a "near perfect" display in the words of Andrew Strauss, but England's crushing victory at Trent Bridge to go 2-0 against the No. 1 team in the world was, ironically because of its faults, an even better performance. There is an aura developing around this England team. They are finding ways to win from difficult positions, not just edge their way to victory but change 50-50 scenarios into overwhelming successes. It's the type of cricket Australia used to play.

At various junctures throughout the first two-and-a-half days this match was on a knife-edge and it was England who won the major moments. The final session on the first day when the last two wickets added 97; the same time on the second when Stuart Broad took his hat-trick; the first session on Saturday when England still trailed, then when India took the second new ball.

Had any of those gone India's way so, too, would crucial momentum in the match. It's how Australia stayed on top for so long. Often they would dominate from the start, as England did at Lord's, but sometimes their opponents would provide a stern contest only for Australia's greater belief and depth to shine through. That's why England have the makings of a No. 1 team. One more victory in this series will put them there.

Strauss was keen to stress after Lord's that there was room for improvement and did so again here. He had more of a point about this match, where England were 124 for 8 and dropped three catches, yet the win was by an even greater margin. India had problems - an injured Harbhajan and a reshuffled batting line-up the biggest of them - but they were brushed aside by a team gaining some fearsome, ruthless momentum.

To emphasise the current health of the England team you need to look no further than the star of the fourth day at Trent Bridge. Tim Bresnan wouldn't have played if Chris Tremlett hadn't suffered a hamstring injury; he ended the game with 90 and a career-best 5 for 48. All-round performances don't come much better and he produced it on "Yorkshire Day" for good measure. He did more than a passing impression of Tremlett, too, as he roughed up Suresh Raina and Yuvraj Singh with short balls to make them seem like novices.

Then there was the skill to switch immediately to the inswinger to remove MS Dhoni. Bresnan is now a quality Test bowler, far removed from the youngster who was plucked out of county cricket by Duncan Fletcher in 2006. The confidence he gained from his performances at Melbourne and Sydney during the Ashes has not diminished despite an injury-hit first half to the season.

We'll never know what would have happened at the start of this summer against Sri Lanka if all England's bowlers had been fit because Bresnan was the man in possession, not Stuart Broad after his own injury problems. Now both have been matchwinners in the same Test. Bresnan may not play at Edgbaston so he must be the best reserve in the world game.

It would be cruel to leave him out, but if Tremlett is fit then the only way Bresnan plays is if England finally bite the bullet over a five-man attack. Now, though, is as good a time as ever to try. Jonathan Trott's injury could give them the perfect window. Bresnan and Broad are scoring runs, while Matt Prior is in the form of his life.

Clearly, England's current balance is serving them well and in English conditions there is no pressing need for a fifth bowler but in the coming months and years they will come across some flat pitches. It feels as though the next level for this team is to at least know they can play with a different balance even if it is only used on occasions rather than as the norm. Still, if Trott is fit they are unlikely to make that call in this series.

Given how key he has been to England's rise it is remarkable to see the scale of their victory with such a quiet display from Graeme Swann, who struggled after a blow to his left hand in the first innings. He had one of his worst matches with the ball, going at more than six-an-over in the first innings, and the closest he came to a wicket was when Sachin Tendulkar nearly failed to clear Kevin Pietersen at mid-on. Still, he played his part, because his 28 in the stand with Broad changed the complexion of match.

There are some batsmen also having a quiet series. Alastair Cook's record-breaking form has been snapped by swing, Strauss is making starts but not converting them and Eoin Morgan, despite his 70 in the second innings, is vulnerable against the movement. Throw in a rare lean match for Trott and it adds further weight to the performances of those who won the match.

England will expect India to come back strongly having regrouped themselves, but nothing will worry this team. In the last two weeks they have set themselves a new level yet will still be striving to get even better. A couple of hours after the match finished those players who use Twitter were busy planning their evening in Nottingham. The short break before Edgbaston will allow them to celebrate properly what they have achieved in the first half of this series. It may also be a chance to consider the fantastic opportunity that lies in front of them.

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • East_West on August 4, 2011, 5:57 GMT

    Let us get one thing clear! England beat us by 300+ runs that too in the presence of fab/fake 3 - Sachin, Laxman and Rahul. Except Rahul and to some extent Laxman no one wanted to stick around! Yuvi tried a bit and Sachin! we all know this guy can't deliver when mattes most!! others ???! I am still surprised why Dhoni is the captain of a test team when this guy has no clue how to play against quality team in foreign pitches, at best he is a good ODI captain! Coming to England, i believe they have the best attack in the world [at this moment] and they are committed to win for their country and were preparing for this series sincerely[unlike Indians who love to show their so called talent in this nonsensical game called IPL]! well RESULT is evident!! Aura! yes, after what they have gone through in the last decade with so many failures, I believe this Team has it all except that they need to find a quality spinner to assist Swann ...else it will be difficult in sub-continent pitches!!

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on August 4, 2011, 1:16 GMT

    @Napally. Cook and Trott, injured or not have NOT been making runs have they? Did that stop the likes of Prior and KP (supposedly out of form) from stepping up and playing innings that their Ind counterparts failed to do? Wasn't Tremlett out injured? Wasn't Swann as injured as any so called "injured/recovering" player that you mentioned? If the likes of Yuraj and Tendulkar are desperately undersong because they are returning from injury, why did they score 50's without looking hampered by injury. Yuraj has had probs vs quicks in tests before, during and after his injury and clear analysis will prove that its his technique that has never been adjusted, not his fitness. Note I never agreed about Eng and their aura, I don't know about that. What I will say is, its the best Eng team I've ever seen. What I will say is that I'm tired of this half-strength theory that keeps on popping up every time Ind is missing 2-3 players, key or not. The thing about Eng is that EVERY player becomes key.

  • Tigersrini on August 3, 2011, 13:18 GMT

    Test Match is about playing consistently for 5 days and not for 1-2 sessions. Rankings are about playing against all oppositions over a period of time and not for 2 matches. India and England have reached 1st and 2nd rank by playing and winning over a period of time. If England achieve the No 1 status then we should agree they have played well to achieve it. Let them achieve the 1st Ranking. Look at Strauss, Cook and Trott, they have been sorted out in both the matches. Let us do the same in the next test and get Peterson out quickly before he settles down then we will have another opportunity to go at them hard. Guys nothing is over till it is actually not over. Don't get desperate and criticize. Remember the 2003 World Cup when India bounced back after couple of defeats and reached the final with some sterling performances. Keep ur fingers crossed.

  • on August 3, 2011, 9:14 GMT

    england deserved to win the 2 matches....i have to say india were just not good enough...(im an indian by the way)....sometimes you just have to accept the facts and stop bitching around mindlessly when the truth is plainly written on the wall...hope we play well in the last 2 tests...although drawing the series is a little too much to ask with this team...looks like dhoni's luck has run out.

    hopefully we can do better in the next series against australia in australia... nice playing england

  • douglondon on August 3, 2011, 8:57 GMT

    @Nampally

    You say that "The cream of Indian side - Tendulkar, Gambhir, Sehwag, Zaheer, Yuvraj are either not available due to injuries or coming from injuries."

    That's a poor argument. Tendulkar's fine. He just hasn't been playing well. Zaheer got injured in the first test, but if you pick injury prone bowlers you need back up. Gambhir was fine to bat in both innings in the first test and made no difference. Yuvraj wasn't picked for the first test, because he wasn't seen as one of the top players. So that only leaves you with Sehwag. And his average on swinging pitches is distinctly mediocre. He's a class batsman, so may come good, but I wouldn't rely on him making all the difference.

    The fact is that just as English players struggle on the flatter pitches of the subcontinent, so Indian players struggle on faster, swinging pitches. It's how well they manage in alien conditions that determines the quality of a team.

  • on August 3, 2011, 8:32 GMT

    @Master01 Oh well. At least Team England can bowl at all. Unlike Team India...

  • CricketMaan on August 3, 2011, 7:48 GMT

    England could win 4-0 and go on to be No.1, the question is how long can they hold on to it, 2.5 yrs like India or for a decade like Australia..i doubt both.

  • badbug27 on August 3, 2011, 5:09 GMT

    England played really well, there is no doubt about that. India played horribly for a #1 team, that is also quite clear. But there is just too much being made out of it from just two tests. The series isn't over yet. India were a much depleted side. Not a single English player is playing in the IPL, so they're quite fresh. Of course, that should not come as an excuse for a poor display, and India need to sort out their programme to avoid such situations.

    Ever since India became a #1 side, people have just been questioning it. If England were to become a #1 side tomorrow, so be it. Whatever the criteria are, will apply, and they apply to all teams equally, so why all the questioning. The era of neutral reporting and commentating is over. I guess the former cricketers who now make the majority of this crowd, are not properly educated in neutrality and start crying foul when things don't seem to go their way. Individual egos also just come into play far too much.

  • Tigersrini on August 3, 2011, 3:10 GMT

    Is it not stupid to question whether we deserve to be No 1? There is no place for opinions. It is just points which determine whether a team is No 1 or not? Though India have won World Cup didn't get them No 1 status. Arguing beating a team at home and away is all just opinions/arguments. If at the end of the series England emerge as No 1, then they are No1, there will not be any room for opinions. When England visit Sri Lanka and get beaten and they will lose their No 1 status again people will say they don't deserve to be No 1. Status as No 1 is just decided by points they have and nothing else. One more point, If Sachin had been run out like Bell, would Strauss have ever called him back? No way. If Laxman's so called nick not detected by Hot Spot and that stupid Vaughn says Vaseline? Have they forgotten real Vaseline John Lever incident?

  • Natx on August 3, 2011, 2:59 GMT

    @MartinC - Beating SA you could only dream about. Go there and win at least 1 test match and tell your experience. At least India have won a test there consistently on the last few tours. With a new captain (watch out AB for the next 2 years) and a very good coach (Gary) and bowling coach (Donald), I bet my money on Proteas any day to be next #1. Not the whining Poms. Plain simple reason - Proteas play better cricket and have beaten both India and Australia at home. Agreed, they choke at big tournaments like world cup, but to me they are the next #1 that can sustain the title for a good period. England is simply incapable of winning in India, Pak, SL, SA. Forget a series - win a test there and tell me if you are #1. And by the way, did you remember the whitewash at Aussies the last time you've been there? Beating #5 Aussies at home is not a big achievement.

  • East_West on August 4, 2011, 5:57 GMT

    Let us get one thing clear! England beat us by 300+ runs that too in the presence of fab/fake 3 - Sachin, Laxman and Rahul. Except Rahul and to some extent Laxman no one wanted to stick around! Yuvi tried a bit and Sachin! we all know this guy can't deliver when mattes most!! others ???! I am still surprised why Dhoni is the captain of a test team when this guy has no clue how to play against quality team in foreign pitches, at best he is a good ODI captain! Coming to England, i believe they have the best attack in the world [at this moment] and they are committed to win for their country and were preparing for this series sincerely[unlike Indians who love to show their so called talent in this nonsensical game called IPL]! well RESULT is evident!! Aura! yes, after what they have gone through in the last decade with so many failures, I believe this Team has it all except that they need to find a quality spinner to assist Swann ...else it will be difficult in sub-continent pitches!!

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on August 4, 2011, 1:16 GMT

    @Napally. Cook and Trott, injured or not have NOT been making runs have they? Did that stop the likes of Prior and KP (supposedly out of form) from stepping up and playing innings that their Ind counterparts failed to do? Wasn't Tremlett out injured? Wasn't Swann as injured as any so called "injured/recovering" player that you mentioned? If the likes of Yuraj and Tendulkar are desperately undersong because they are returning from injury, why did they score 50's without looking hampered by injury. Yuraj has had probs vs quicks in tests before, during and after his injury and clear analysis will prove that its his technique that has never been adjusted, not his fitness. Note I never agreed about Eng and their aura, I don't know about that. What I will say is, its the best Eng team I've ever seen. What I will say is that I'm tired of this half-strength theory that keeps on popping up every time Ind is missing 2-3 players, key or not. The thing about Eng is that EVERY player becomes key.

  • Tigersrini on August 3, 2011, 13:18 GMT

    Test Match is about playing consistently for 5 days and not for 1-2 sessions. Rankings are about playing against all oppositions over a period of time and not for 2 matches. India and England have reached 1st and 2nd rank by playing and winning over a period of time. If England achieve the No 1 status then we should agree they have played well to achieve it. Let them achieve the 1st Ranking. Look at Strauss, Cook and Trott, they have been sorted out in both the matches. Let us do the same in the next test and get Peterson out quickly before he settles down then we will have another opportunity to go at them hard. Guys nothing is over till it is actually not over. Don't get desperate and criticize. Remember the 2003 World Cup when India bounced back after couple of defeats and reached the final with some sterling performances. Keep ur fingers crossed.

  • on August 3, 2011, 9:14 GMT

    england deserved to win the 2 matches....i have to say india were just not good enough...(im an indian by the way)....sometimes you just have to accept the facts and stop bitching around mindlessly when the truth is plainly written on the wall...hope we play well in the last 2 tests...although drawing the series is a little too much to ask with this team...looks like dhoni's luck has run out.

    hopefully we can do better in the next series against australia in australia... nice playing england

  • douglondon on August 3, 2011, 8:57 GMT

    @Nampally

    You say that "The cream of Indian side - Tendulkar, Gambhir, Sehwag, Zaheer, Yuvraj are either not available due to injuries or coming from injuries."

    That's a poor argument. Tendulkar's fine. He just hasn't been playing well. Zaheer got injured in the first test, but if you pick injury prone bowlers you need back up. Gambhir was fine to bat in both innings in the first test and made no difference. Yuvraj wasn't picked for the first test, because he wasn't seen as one of the top players. So that only leaves you with Sehwag. And his average on swinging pitches is distinctly mediocre. He's a class batsman, so may come good, but I wouldn't rely on him making all the difference.

    The fact is that just as English players struggle on the flatter pitches of the subcontinent, so Indian players struggle on faster, swinging pitches. It's how well they manage in alien conditions that determines the quality of a team.

  • on August 3, 2011, 8:32 GMT

    @Master01 Oh well. At least Team England can bowl at all. Unlike Team India...

  • CricketMaan on August 3, 2011, 7:48 GMT

    England could win 4-0 and go on to be No.1, the question is how long can they hold on to it, 2.5 yrs like India or for a decade like Australia..i doubt both.

  • badbug27 on August 3, 2011, 5:09 GMT

    England played really well, there is no doubt about that. India played horribly for a #1 team, that is also quite clear. But there is just too much being made out of it from just two tests. The series isn't over yet. India were a much depleted side. Not a single English player is playing in the IPL, so they're quite fresh. Of course, that should not come as an excuse for a poor display, and India need to sort out their programme to avoid such situations.

    Ever since India became a #1 side, people have just been questioning it. If England were to become a #1 side tomorrow, so be it. Whatever the criteria are, will apply, and they apply to all teams equally, so why all the questioning. The era of neutral reporting and commentating is over. I guess the former cricketers who now make the majority of this crowd, are not properly educated in neutrality and start crying foul when things don't seem to go their way. Individual egos also just come into play far too much.

  • Tigersrini on August 3, 2011, 3:10 GMT

    Is it not stupid to question whether we deserve to be No 1? There is no place for opinions. It is just points which determine whether a team is No 1 or not? Though India have won World Cup didn't get them No 1 status. Arguing beating a team at home and away is all just opinions/arguments. If at the end of the series England emerge as No 1, then they are No1, there will not be any room for opinions. When England visit Sri Lanka and get beaten and they will lose their No 1 status again people will say they don't deserve to be No 1. Status as No 1 is just decided by points they have and nothing else. One more point, If Sachin had been run out like Bell, would Strauss have ever called him back? No way. If Laxman's so called nick not detected by Hot Spot and that stupid Vaughn says Vaseline? Have they forgotten real Vaseline John Lever incident?

  • Natx on August 3, 2011, 2:59 GMT

    @MartinC - Beating SA you could only dream about. Go there and win at least 1 test match and tell your experience. At least India have won a test there consistently on the last few tours. With a new captain (watch out AB for the next 2 years) and a very good coach (Gary) and bowling coach (Donald), I bet my money on Proteas any day to be next #1. Not the whining Poms. Plain simple reason - Proteas play better cricket and have beaten both India and Australia at home. Agreed, they choke at big tournaments like world cup, but to me they are the next #1 that can sustain the title for a good period. England is simply incapable of winning in India, Pak, SL, SA. Forget a series - win a test there and tell me if you are #1. And by the way, did you remember the whitewash at Aussies the last time you've been there? Beating #5 Aussies at home is not a big achievement.

  • Alexk400 on August 3, 2011, 0:44 GMT

    England were always wanted tall bowlers who can bowl 150kmph. They even kept sajid mehmood because he was bowling 150kmph. Now what happen is that they found same tall bowlers who can also bat like normal batsman. Its a double bonus. They got the batting with lots of south africa import and decent bowling. Not threatening just decent bowling. What england has is balance now. When ball do not bounce and swings , england can not win in INDIA. They can forget about winning in india. To win in India , you have to be express pace. England do not have that. if they find one real 150kmph fast bowler , they can win it anywhere. Indian play spin very well. But there is a way to beat indian team. Ask indian chase 200 without sehwag they will crumble. But when sehwag is there , it is kinda dangerous to do that. I think england have all major tools to be number 1 for some time as long as they keep finding tall fast bowlers who can bat also.

  • redneck on August 3, 2011, 0:31 GMT

    aura??? gee a couple of good years and they start talking about having an aura??? get off it! keep the ashes out of australias hands for 20 odd years then we'll talk aura!!! for a start the aura around the australian team wasnt self anointed by the aussie journos after a couple of wins at home, it was made by going overseas and consistently winning overseas! england didnt beat nz or wi on their last tours their, talk about jumping the gun!!!

  • meeransb on August 2, 2011, 23:32 GMT

    The fact is India were outplayed. Except for Dravid, Laxman, Ishant and Praveen no one seems to be interested in playing out there. Maybe it is difficult to motivate when you have just the world cup barely a few months ago. Yes they are professional and all that, but these guys won the biggest prize on offer. What else do you want these guys to do? The last time I checked England has won '0' world cups, that's a lot. This No.1 ranking is all hype. Without a proper championship the whole ranking system is ridiculous. It has been created just for this hype and it seems to be working. The great Australian team (with McGrath, Warne, Gilly, Hayden, Ponting etc) were beaten by India in India and matched in Australia. So that does not make that Australian team poor nor the Indian team the undisputed champion. During that period India was good and now England is pretty good. Period. Yes, with some of our guys switched on, we can put up a much better show.

  • on August 2, 2011, 23:21 GMT

    so embarrassing that indian fans have switched. it was all about how we were going to get spanked by india, and now it's about how we can't be judged unless we play india in india. we certainly don't know how we'd do, but i bet it wouldn't be as bad as india are doing in england. must feel rubbish to be fighting about why you're doing as badly as you're doing

  • Gujaratan on August 2, 2011, 21:56 GMT

    Andrew, It is NOT beginning of England Era, you just dropped your WORLD CUP T20 winning captain from BOTH ODI and TEST, you are in DEEP trouble just like PAKISTAN IS, so winning 1 or 2 test or 1 or 2 test series DOES NOT make your team GREAT, since 1970, YOU HAVE FAILED to win ONE ODI world cup, or BEAT INDIA IN INDIA. so KEEP DREAMING.

  • henrystephen on August 2, 2011, 21:52 GMT

    "aura" is just positive spin for "arrogance". The English press and fans are already resembling the Aussies of 10 years ago, and it isn't pretty. It's funny how easily you can become the enemy you so despised!

  • gibbsie82 on August 2, 2011, 20:31 GMT

    @Nampally. I was under the assumption that the tour is agreed by both sides with the away side asking for the fixtures they want, as England management got so rightly hammered by the press for doing the exact same thing in the 2007 Ashes and then losing 5-0, so that was up to the BCCI to arrange. With the emphasis on the IPL and ODIs i personally feel that India wouldnt have agree to this long series anyway. After last years Ashes i feel that in future England would also be less willing to do such a long tour also. In general i feel with almost annual world tournaments (t20, ICC champions trophy, World Cup and the mooted World test championship), the IPL and ODIs being more financially lucrative than tests the structure of 3/4 tests and 6-8 ODIs/t20 will become the norm.

  • 5wombats on August 2, 2011, 20:09 GMT

    Considering the 2 month punch-up we had with certain Aussie fans recently I have to say that I am genuinely impressed that a few of them are on here to applaud England; @valvolux, @HatsforBats, @Marcio. Guys - many thanks. Tell you what, and this is the truth; throughout the 90's I always envied what you Aussie fans could enjoy and take for granted; a team which could crush anyone, anywhere - with BRILLIANT batting, Superb bowling and above all the desire to win and the belief that they could do so from ANY match position - Australianism in its fullest form. Australia in the 90's were just brilliant. I watched them here and in Aus and it was a priviledge. I understand what you guys enjoyed all those years even more now because its MY team - England, that are starting to do it; I now know how it feels for my team to put away top class opposition on a regular basis. I've waited (and suffered!) a lifetime for this and it's wonderful - I feel like my patience has finally been rewarded!

  • khiladisher on August 2, 2011, 19:37 GMT

    @Neil Clarke-mate ,you are a true cricket fan sharing your feelings for the great game and your team-Am a Indian cricket fan for life but watching cricket for the past 16 years and reading about the past history ,there is no doubt in my mind that this English team will rule cricket for at least 4-5 years{because all the players in the team have at-least a a good 6-8 years of cricket left. However the great challenge of beating India in India is still there-India have lost a total of just 3 home series series since 1985-{loses-1987 Pakistan-2000 south Africa and 2004-Australia}.England last won in 1984.To beat India in India you need at least 2 bowler to bowl at 90+ mph ,1 very good medium pace swing bowler and a extremely good spin bowler for support-that's how Australia and south Africa won in India-Can England do it,if this is the form level i see a big upset come 2012-beware India England lions on prowl.

  • khiladisher on August 2, 2011, 19:12 GMT

    @James badge-Well said getting to #1 is just a great chance to prove greatness-West Indian and Australians have done it all over.India became the #1team in test cricket and failed the 1st big test,now its up to England to prove their greatness by winning all over especially the greatest task of them all-beating India in India{not happened since 1984} however this English team looks like the best in decades.

  • SDHM on August 2, 2011, 18:58 GMT

    Beertjie - do you genuinely think that? Steyn is easily the best bowler in the world at the moment, but the rest? Tahir is quality but has yet to play at test level, so he can't really be compared to Swann (but I'd love to see them head to head in a test!). Otherwise, Morkel is no better than anything England have - just check his record and compare it to that of Tremlett, Finn, Bresnan, Anderson or even Onions, and you'll see what I mean. And Tsotsobe? Please. 9 wickets at 50 isn't exactly setting the world on fire. England are the best balanced side in world cricket at the moment, but you can argue that they lack the real superstar - the Dale Steyn or the Jacques Kallis or AB de Villiers. If anything, I think that makes what they're achieving even more impressive. As I said in an earlier comment though, I've seen far too much of England to believe that this series is over yet!

  • tjsimonsen on August 2, 2011, 18:57 GMT

    No, of couse England is not developing an aura because they have hammered an Indian team that was believed by some fans to have been invicible until very recently. They are developing an aura because of the way they have played the last couple of years as others also have pointed out. Whether it started in the series against South Africa away when they fortunately and skilfully drew the series, on in the later home series against Pakistan when they crushed a team that was nowhere as bad as the results suggested (spot fixing or not) is difficult to judge. But in my opinion it really took off in the Brisbane test where the response to being 221 runs behind after the first innings was to post 517/1d and ending up being the dominant team. Whether they will SUCCEED in deveopling that aura is another matter. But DEVELOPING it they sure are at the moment.

  • Nampally on August 2, 2011, 18:40 GMT

    @Neutral_Fan: India is missing their best opening batsmen - Sehwag, Gambhir and their best opening bowler Zaheer. Tendulkar & Yuvraj are returning from injuries - first competitive cricket + psychological disadvantage of aggravating their injuries - Which Zaheer did!. 5 out of 11 but if you add their value, more than half the team..Imagine England removing Strauss, Cook along with Broad. On top of that assume Trott & Bell returning from a long layoff due to serious injuries. Will England team look the same? Answer is simply "NO". Furthermore India has walked straight into 2 tests with little or no time to settle to the pitch conditions almost 100% different from Indian ones. The lack of preparedness to these conditions is evident when 3 of the top batsmen in the world, Tendulkar, Laxman, Dravid, fall like nine pins. The same guys on Indian wickets have torn the same English attack only 18 months back.

  • tjsimonsen on August 2, 2011, 18:37 GMT

    @Master01: So England can't bowl on a flat pitch? What about Lords which was pretty flat except for the first 1.5 days when India made the least of the conditions? And before that: what about Adelaide, Sydney and Melbourne?

  • tjsimonsen on August 2, 2011, 18:34 GMT

    @Jay Solanki: I don't know if Australia actually 'BIT' India in India as you are questening. But they surely BEAT them in the 2004/05 series.

  • vin-me on August 2, 2011, 18:14 GMT

    @Oam85 - Indian's have not forgotten the fact that India has not lost any series in last three years (streak may end in ten days)...They toured SouthAfrica, NewZeland, West Indies and Srilanka which cover all pacy and spinning surfaces. Last time England toured subcontinent, they lost. They are still due to tour subcontinent after that loss. My point is England is a far better test side than India during this series but they still need to prove their dominance on sub continent wickets.

  • Ajay_Toronto_ on August 2, 2011, 18:02 GMT

    Harbhajan lacks form, fitness and variety; his brand of bowling and batting does not suit the English conditions...add to this a total lack of character in adverse conditions...BRING MISHRA IN...Zaheer's return will be a great help...Yuvi, Raina and Mukund have severe issues against short pitched stuff as also the seaming and swinging ball...fortunately Gambhir and Sehwag will be back...for the No 6 spot, choosing Raina over Yuvi will make sense...I agree with Dada pointing out that Indians are playing 'soft' cricket' - the will and drive to win are totally missing...can't believe that Yuvi was made to shamelessly dance by the same bowler that he had hit for 6 sixes in an over in SA...goes to show he has the experience but totally lacks skill and heart and guts and national pride...I sincerely hope that the likes of Cheteshwar Pujara and Wasim Jaffer are duly considered for future Test series

  • on August 2, 2011, 18:00 GMT

    It is true that England played superb and showed great resilience when the chips were down (2n innings in first test and 1st inning in second test). However it was 1 man show (Broad) that got them out of the hole both times. If not for Broad the scoreline could have been opposite in India's favor. Or perhaps 1-1. The only positive England can take which India cannot is when the chips were down ..a couple of players from England performed where as Indians failed to find ywo at same time. If Ishants 5 wkts or Praveens 5 wicket had found support in the innings mentioned above..Eng could well have been struggling with 1-0 deficit.However England have proven they are good at home in home conditions ...but are they good enough to win in India in what can be Indian home conditions ( spin) or will that be then termed as unsporting pitches.

  • on August 2, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    England needs to prove their point in India, Srilanka and Bangladesh..... if they can beat India in India in test matches..... it is easy to beat any team in ones own country...... England is not no.... 1............. plz stop this nonsense..... even the chappals and other english and aussie ex- players used to claim world cup for England .. and did you see the results-- easily beaten by bangladesh and Ireland....

  • Master01 on August 2, 2011, 17:42 GMT

    beating a half stength India side means nothing. An aura? You will only have an aura when you win in the subcontinent. You cant do that, therefore you have no aura. The English media is unbelievable

  • on August 2, 2011, 17:24 GMT

    Seems to me that Indian fans are just struggling for excuses, lets face it England are the better side and they haven't even started yet. This side has another 4 years of dominance, india is on the downfall Sachin, Dravid and Laxman are old men. Their bowling is shocking, keep going on about Zaheer but seriously that is all you have. I have seen England just collapse and bowl shockingly over the years and finally we are dominant, so HA, we will be no.1 and for a long time.

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on August 2, 2011, 16:37 GMT

    @Nampally. The last time I checked, there were 11 on a cricket team. 3 are missing, how does that equate to a 2nd string team? Explain, it makes little sense.

  • tjsimonsen on August 2, 2011, 16:15 GMT

    @Sudhanshu Singh: Actually, I think the biggest challange in cricket at the moment is beating England in England. @Saket Waghmode: England HAVE already performed in Australia, remember: 3-1 including the first time Oz have suffered 3 innings defeats in a home series. Not even the Packer depleted side managed that. But otherwise your point is well taken. Obviously England need to perfom in the Subcontinent and South Africa.

  • JimTheTruth on August 2, 2011, 16:10 GMT

    There seem to be some very confused cricket fans out there.

    The rankings are NOT based on the last 2 Test Matches. In the last couple of years, England have played 29 Tests. They've won 18 of them, drawn 7, and only lost 4. This includes tough (yet successful) tours of Australia and South Africa. A fantastic record.

    England aren't there yet; there's room for improvement and difficult challenges still lie ahead. However, it seems perfectly reasonable for the article to state that England are "beginning to develop" an aura at Test level.

  • Nampally on August 2, 2011, 16:05 GMT

    All the glitter in England's victory is dimmed due to the fact that both Sei Lanka and India were scheduled to share the series. This deprived both these dominant powers of going into Test matches without any practice to get used to the English pitches- 100% different from the Indian pitches/conditions. No wonder England look great. Give India a complete season series of 5 test matches with plenty of county matches as alloted to the teams from 50's & 60's. The results will surprise everyone. England is playing India's second team due to injuries to their key players.The cream of Indian side - Tendulkar, Gambhir, Sehwag, Zaheer, Yuvraj are either not available due to injuries or coming from injuries.This is making them much superior than they actually are. With the return of Sehwag & Gambhir, the Indian batting has improved stability,, if they bat to their potential albeit very rusty & out of practice.The absence of Zaheer knocks an already weak Indian bowling on these fast pitches.

  • StatisticsRocks on August 2, 2011, 16:01 GMT

    @East_West: I agree with you 100%. We were flying way too high and had to be brought down and did England bring us down or what. The only person worthy of this tour is Rahul Dravid who is literally showing how to bat in these conditions and yet, thanks to IPL (20-20), many of the current indian batsmen have no idea how to bat in test matches. Mukund, Raina, and Yuvi were made to dance with the short balls. Only Dravid can stand tall or leave the ones outside the off stump and play late enough to counter the swing. How we are #1 is still a mystery to me, especially in test matches. No bowlers to take 20 wickets and now not enough batting to score > 300. More than half of the scores India has made so far is because of the Wall and VVS, who seems to play beautifully till he gets 50 and then just like that throws it away except for the 4 th innings at TrentBridge where Jimmy bowled a beauty. Lets see if we can save a whitewash.

  • on August 2, 2011, 15:42 GMT

    Just keep dreaming about Australia's No.1 aura, no team can match that except Australia itself. Its the collaboration of Art with Science to stay at top. West Indies of 80s and 90s is has much more fear that the great Aussies team... biut Thumbs up to once a Great Australian Side.

  • Oam85 on August 2, 2011, 15:32 GMT

    I think some of the comments from some India fans shows some inward and niave insights. Of course England are developing an Aura. Not just because they are 2-0 up against India. More to do with the fact England have not lost a test series for 2 and a half years (will be nearly 3 years by the time the next TS comes around). This includes tours to South Africa and recently Australia where the Aussies suffered some of their worst defeats in years and also heaviest series defeat in years. But obviously some of the inward India fans have forgotten that already.

    It's funny that every side England seem to face recently all seem to come up with pathetic excuses. The fact of the matter is most if these England players are still to hit peak age and will improve and be around for a long while yet. I can't see any other test team competing with them consistently for a while yet. Dravid, Tendulkar and VVS will probably nearing the end when England tour India so expect more excuses then...

  • vin-me on August 2, 2011, 15:12 GMT

    England is scheduled to tour Srilanka next March and India next winter...If they manage to even draw the series, then i will be an Aura...They have managed only one series win away from home in last five years. And that also against Australia under similar conditions as home. I remember Australia's tour of India during 2004. They considered it as a final frontier. They won series and that gave them a true champion tag. England have to do same if they want to be compared with those legend teams.

  • MartinC on August 2, 2011, 15:00 GMT

    @Saket Waghmode - England just came home from Aus where we beat them 3-1 - and it was not that close to be honest. we need to finish this series out and then the series against SA will be very good as they are a similar side to us with a very good pace attack but they lack a world class spinner.

    I think its fair to point out though that England have to prove they can perform on subcontinent pitches to be considered a truly great side. I also think there are some pretty poor sides around in world cricket right now - particularily in the bowling attacks so being number 1 is not THAT hard.

  • addiemanav on August 2, 2011, 14:39 GMT

    what really amazes me is the depth in english batting!!they are better technically equipped than indian counterparts and are way ahead of the previous english tailenders who in all fairness were walking wickets!caddick,hoggard,gough,mulally,giles and panesar were a bunch of players who were good enough to be removed in 5 overs!!but this line-up after prior is filled with some terrific stroke makers!!the only bowlers who cant score are tremlett,finn and anderson and only one of them will play!!this is a kind of golden era for them where they have some very good fast bowlers who bat very well!!i have no doubt that it is broad who has made the real difference in the series!!he got a duck 1st inngs at lords and from there he has gone UP UP and AWAY!he had a terrific spell & removed indian middle order,prevented sachin to score a 100..sachin was flowing at lords..then scored 75 at crucial time!repeated & bettered the performance in 2nd test!!he's the man of the series for the 1st 2 tests!

  • douglondon on August 2, 2011, 14:13 GMT

    Not sure where some of these comments are coming from, e.g. "Let's see how this team does in SA, Sri Lanka, Australia and of course India the next couple of years."

    England have just hammered Australia in Australia, and drew their last series in SA. So really it's just the subcontinent where they have to prove themselves. I would say that a drawn series in India would be deeply impressive: India have only lost three home series since 1987.

    People are also questioning England's spin options. This forgets that Monty Panesar is a more than adequate spinner. England also have a number of young spinners coming through the ranks.

    England still have a long way to go, but they're certainly building a strong squad.

  • Master01 on August 2, 2011, 13:56 GMT

    Also England love saying how India cant bat on bouncy pitches. well England cant bowl on flat pitches. Whats the difference?

  • Bodger50 on August 2, 2011, 13:36 GMT

    @ S Singh, yes the aura bit is premature. But you want to become the team others would rather not play. That means winning a lot and drawing a few you should lose. It takes time to build this reputation on the test circuit. It needs to apply home and away. I think the point here is that if they continue this may happen. I recall Australia did not enjoy the last Ashes series in their back yard too much. Also England played quite well there. So yes, premature for now, but I can see the point of the article. Is it really that funny?

  • getsetgopk on August 2, 2011, 13:28 GMT

    The way the English are batting and bowling i can see this English side rule the test world for quite a while. And what a way to crown themselves with the worlds best test side. Crushing defeats so far both at Lords and now at TB. A complete knockout blow showing India its rightful place, and is getting severe with each passing match.

  • bumsonseats on August 2, 2011, 13:23 GMT

    over the years england would beat the likes of australia, in 1 test out of a 5 test series and count ourselves ok in doing that. the great teams have great/good bowlers put aussie bowlers against aussie batters and the batters would stuggle. i would suggest england would be the same. what the present squad have got 5/6 good bowlers and a quality spinner. we have a good set of batters and a very good wicket keeper. we could do with a couple more batting strength squad numbers. bowlers win u test matches. and these bowlers england have will get you the 20 wickets u need.e beat australia 3 times by an innings and i think that has never been done there. i think us and SA r the best teams in world cricket. next year should be a cracker of a series and the winner i would say can call themselves #1. india in australia i expect australia to beat them

  • rahulcricket007 on August 2, 2011, 13:23 GMT

    this is what which hates me most . how can the present english team be compared to the mighty west indies & aussies of 80s & 2000s when they have not won a series in ind , sa & sl.

  • on August 2, 2011, 13:18 GMT

    Only to ask that.....Did England bit India in India in last decade...if yes then this statement is correct...even Australia never bit India in India when they are on TOP form. So I suggest England should focus for biting India by 4-0 so may be that worth to say.....which looks quite difficult and with latest news India will be back with full strength...as Viru & Gambhir is back. also Zaheer is recovering from injury. Let see what happen.

  • YorkshirePudding on August 2, 2011, 13:02 GMT

    @Sudhanshu Singh, surely the same must be said about india in Australia, and SA, remind me again when was the last time india beat Aus in australia? They could only manage a drawn series in SA.

  • Clive_Dunn on August 2, 2011, 12:29 GMT

    Where is this high quality spin coming from that England have to face when playing on the sub-continent ? Murali and Kumble have retired in case people had forgotten. I'd also like to complain about Jonathan Trott's lack of time at the crease since the first innings of the series - I have a 4 week old baby and Trotters soporific batting is the only thing that seems to send her to sleep. I'm getting tired and grumpy now.

  • sachin_vvsfan on August 2, 2011, 12:23 GMT

    @ Herath-UK If am not wrong SL had no injury worries and were at full strength.I guess It was rain that saved 3-0 whitewash.ENG (esp bowlers) are too tough at home. Lets accept thatI dont want to get into the debate of NUM 1 Ranking (IMHO all top 4 sides have less parity and no side has consistently beaten other sides at home and overseas)

  • on August 2, 2011, 12:05 GMT

    @Sudhanshu Singh- I disagree with your comment and dont see wats so funny about England beginning to develop an aura because its actually true. The last time we saw such an amazing performance from a team was S.Waugh or R.Ponting's Australia who used to win matches even if the opposition got hold of a few sessions. They have that self belief and calmness about them. Even if defeating India on home ground is the biggest challenge it doesnt say they are the best team..it only shows how they prepare pitches specially for their own purposes, this is something you will never see in England or say Australia but unfortunately in Pakistan, India and (specially) Sri Lanka this is the trend. As for your argument about the gr8 teams in the past i completely agree but the article says beginning to develop an aura.given time they might be able to defeat good teams in their own backyard. They definitely look to be on the right track (they won the ashes in Australia earlier this year.a g8 achievement

  • dsig3 on August 2, 2011, 11:56 GMT

    Well its hard not to believe in this aura when the supposed No.1 side has been completely smashed. At home or not India has been rolled over fairly easy. When England came over to Aus and beat us easily I felt that the team was very different. The only other team to beat us recently at home is SA, and it was a bit closer. England are the real deal, they will be tested abroad but they certainly are on the path of having a very, very good side.

  • gnomeorram on August 2, 2011, 11:47 GMT

    For those posting that it's premature to talk about England having an aura after 2 games against an undercooked India team, remember that this follows on from a wildly successful Ashes winter and a thoroughly professional early-season series win over Sri Lanka (not to mention the topsy turvy toppling of Pakistan last summer). They seem to be developing the knack of winning from all sorts of match positions, which is where sides start to build an aura, as it allows the opposition no opportunity to relax. That's the kind of asphyxiating on-field pressure the all-conquering Aussies were able to exert and it's something England are starting to show signs of. By no means are they in the same league, but they're a talented, resilient team who are taking on all-comers with aplomb at the moment - and still improving all the time. Growing up with the production line of misery that was England in the 90s, it feels almost un-English to admit how proud (and excited) this team makes me.

  • SAA007 on August 2, 2011, 11:45 GMT

    India were hyped when they became world number just as england are being currently hyped. But the fact remains that india had accumulated success at their own backyard which resulted in their number one spot....the same can be said with england....they have been imperious at their own grounds,and yes they have been equally impressive agnst australia (a very weak australia wich even lost to a very weak pakistan side too) their past performance4s in the sub-continent & south africa have been pretty dismal.....they cant be compared to australia who won and dominated where ever they went,not just at home.england are touring sri lanka and UAE (against pakistan) this winter....i bet their bowling will find it impossible to get 20 wkts in a test match consistently,especially in UAE.then my point will be very clear that england are just masters of their own backyard and no whr near the invincibles of australia!!!they mite be no 1 next week,but they aren't unbeatable outside england!!!

  • HaroldLarwood on August 2, 2011, 11:44 GMT

    @sudhanshu singh. I think you'll find beating England in England is currently the biggest challenge in cricket. And the funniest thing I've heard is that India is the number one team in the world. You make Australia look half decent.

  • Tigersrini on August 2, 2011, 11:36 GMT

    Just two wins against India makes Andrew Mcglashan write England is developing an aura !!!No Sehwag and Zaheer. Cook,Strauss,Trott have been sorted out 4 times by the Indians. India was without Zaheer-a Key bowler and guide to others.On his day KP can outbat any one & with Zaheer not there.He did that at Lords and India was always chasing. England 2nd innings Ishant ripped thru' the batting and England reduced to 88-6, Ishant tired and no Zaheer and Prior and Broad rescue England. Gauti getting injured while fielding.Batting Order to be shuffled completely.India Lost. Is this the Aura which Andrew is talking about. Come 2nd Test England 124-8 and Broad and Swan rescue. India 267-4 and Yuvraj on a song and Dravid entrenched and India tumble to 287. The lead should have ben around 200 and England wud hav been fighting to save the match. 3rd day morning Srauss again sorted out and Dhoni commits a tactical mistake by not posting a Thirdman. Total runs thru' thirdman around 180-200.

  • Beertjie on August 2, 2011, 11:36 GMT

    I agree entirely with @vatsatheboss. As an Aussie supporter, I'm dreading the up-coming encounter because, unlike those people extolling the power of the English attack, people ought to acknowledge that South Africa have a far better balanced and penetrative one: Steyn, Morkel, Tsotsobe, Kallis and now Imran Tahir! Twice England escaped defeat in their drawn series with SA, so why anyone would consider them the better team just because they dethroned pretenders, I can't quite fathom. That's hoopla for you!

  • Marcio on August 2, 2011, 11:34 GMT

    To say England are developing an aura is fair enough. They are in the process. But they will need another year or two of top results to fully establish that. The real strength of the England team is that they are a very well balanced team. They have excellent bowling and genuine batting depth, and Swann as a genuinely good spinner really finishes it off (despite a poor match or two of late). Perhaps they lack those genuine "once in a generation" world class players like Warne, Gilchrist, Viv Richards, Tendulkar, Michael Holding etc. But as I say, they have exceptional balance. I think they deserve #1 status now, but they will have to keep a look out. Other teams are not too far behind. e.g. Australia will have a very good team in 2-3 years with their fast bowlers and some v. good batting coming through - the spinning dept. being the big question.

  • poderdubdubdub on August 2, 2011, 11:30 GMT

    I am afraid I can not agree with you Andrew, just two wins against a depleted Indian side and you are talking of the 'aura'?!! Teams from the sub continent have always struggled in England therefore these victories should not be a reason to put a tempermental English side to pedestal. I am afraid the aura will disappear very soon, if there was any!!

  • SettingSun on August 2, 2011, 11:15 GMT

    Well, like CM Punk, England have proved themselves to be The Best In The World. The third test will see us hit India with the Go 2 Sleep and make it undisputed. But never mind, India fans, it's not all doom and gloom - I hear Sanjay Bangar might get a call-up!

  • on August 2, 2011, 11:02 GMT

    England certainly have become a formidable team in test cricket. They still have a long way to go before replicating the aura created by the Australians, mostly because they don't yet have the phenomenal cricketers in the likes of Warne, McGrath, Gilchrist etc, who commanded respect individually before collectively as the Australian team.

    The litmus test of this team will definitely be in the subcontinent where their speedsters will be out of their natural environment and their spinners will have to replicate the performances of the subcontinent bowlers.

  • on August 2, 2011, 10:30 GMT

    Assuming that England do take the number one spot, it is too soon to compare either positively or negatively to the Aussie or the WI great teams. Getting to number 1 only gives you the chance to prove you are great, India look like they have failed the test, only time will tell if England can do it.

  • chin-music on August 2, 2011, 10:27 GMT

    As an Indian , it is embarassing to see the complete inability of so-called India fans to show some grace in defeat. England has now not only beaten ( or , more appropriately thumped) this Indian team - prior to that they won 3-1 away in Aus, drew in SA away & have won their last 5-6 successive series against all comers. Contrast that with the dubious #1 claims on which the Indian media/fans have been subsisting for the last 2 years - never beaten Aus or SA away & are generally very happy if they manage to scrape a drawn series there (i.e. avoid the expected demolition). Yet , it is ok for Indian fans to incessantly brag - but if an English writer talks up his team in their moment of (very real) achievement , it becomes a red flag for our internet warriors.

  • on August 2, 2011, 10:03 GMT

    From minus 10 for 2 to win by over 300 runs is a fantastic achievement.

  • Dr_Spin on August 2, 2011, 9:14 GMT

    Beating India in India has always been a big challenge for non-Asian teams. And there's no mystique about why. Because the ball does next to nothing for quick bowlers and very few teams have more than one world class spinner to take over there. Indian decks are prepared to bore the opposition to tears. The decks are slower and lower than anywhere in the world apart from West Indies after they go one-nil up in a series...! It's why it's taken most of my lifetime for India to produce two medium-fast bowlers at the same time. I guess that's why no one watches the Test game any more there. And I guess it's why modern Indian batsmen can't play the short ball. Steyn and Morkel and even the Aussie quicks must be licking their lips and checking India's touring schedule right now! It's not a Test of cricket playing out there as much as one of endurance. I bet if there was a return series in India right now you wouldn't see a blade of grass anywhere in the country...

  • Pilgrim1311 on August 2, 2011, 9:11 GMT

    To all the people asking whether England can do well outside England, in places like India and Australia: I direct you here: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/series/428731.html We played fairly well in that Australia series, so I think we've proved a point there. And we just have to wait and see how we do in SL next year. I wish people would read the article before posting on here. No-one said we're as good as the great Austalia team - of course we're not! But we're displaying some of the traits that MADE them great, and that bodes well for the future. No-one's trying to say this team is the best ever, but there's excitement because this is the best England team in my living memory and there is genuine excitement about what COULD be.

  • Paul.Power on August 2, 2011, 9:09 GMT

    "Let's see how this team does in SA, Sri Lanka, Australia and of course India the next couple of years."

    Well you can scratch Australia off that list at the very least, we've done them.

    South Africa will be an interesting one - England scraped an admittedly lucky drawn series against them last time round, but I think England have improved considerably since then. In many ways they're a tougher ask than India simply because their strengths and weaknesses are similar to England's, and so are harder for England to exploit.

    As for tours to the subcontinent - while I can hardly assume victory, I can certainly say that England will go into tours there with as much planning, preparation and professionalism as on the tour to Australia and this summer against Sri Lanka and India. Before the Australia series people said England wouldn't be able to take 20 wickets in a match - a statement that was proved decisively wrong.

  • bhaloniaz on August 2, 2011, 9:08 GMT

    Broard and Anderson can be dangerous at times. Consistency wise, confidence wise, they donot look like top bowlers like Garner, Marhsall, Arkam, Waquar, Ambrose, Walsh, Mcgrath, Asif; Johnson, Bollinger, Ryan Harris, Styen, Morkel look better. Even Zaheer has become a strike bowler. When India needs a wicket, he deliver. Anderson/Broad sometimes takes wickets in bursts and sometimes they run out of tricks/steam. Tremlett looks more consistent (rely on him to get 4 wickets per test at a decent rate). Bresnan could be great as well. England's tail is very strong and that can tire any good side. Say Morkel and Steyen has worked hard for half a day to get 5 wickets. Now they have to get through Prior, Morgan, Broad, Bresnan, and Anderson\Swan.

  • piyush999 on August 2, 2011, 9:04 GMT

    wohoo...there we go again....sachin top scores for india once again in a meaningless and hopeless situation....kudos to him....

  • RohCricket on August 2, 2011, 9:02 GMT

    england are starting to look good. not sure about aura just yet, but i expect they will be very hard to beat both home and away, just as india and australia both found out.

  • vissu295 on August 2, 2011, 8:57 GMT

    This England team is good. But they will develop an AURA only when they start winning something in the subcontinent, which the aussies managed to do. India have crushed many opponents at home even when it was a weak side and it didn't have an AURA. This is expected from an English writer anyway. The series is not over yet.

  • on August 2, 2011, 8:41 GMT

    i think its too early to think abt aura. true they have been great so far in this series & full credit 2 them. they have 2 repicate this when they tour india. dont b desperate as most of the team- india fans hav realised by now how mistaken they were abt the so called team india aura.Bottom-line is-"aura or no aura, team playing good cricket wins.mind u i am still a team india fan.

  • awg3599 on August 2, 2011, 8:39 GMT

    Am not so sure what is so scarey about playing India in India at the moment - unless it's the spin of Harbijan?? Three England captains have won in India - Jardine, Greig, Gower - and Strauss or Cook is best placed to be the fourth. Compare the teams in terms of their ages and rate of progress and it is easy to see why England should not fear anyone and especially India (home or away). England are an essentially young side with lots of class in reserve and consistently improving whereas India are a late middle aged side with not much in reserve and on the decline. This happened to the West Indies, and then Australia and now India - so why can't it be England's time to have a turn at the top? Whether this good England side is the basis of a "great" one only time will tell but they are currently very well placed to remove India from the top and stay there for a while.

  • LancsTwins on August 2, 2011, 8:35 GMT

    Given that Saket Waghmode seems to be a little behind the times here, I will try and update him. England were in South Africa 2 winters ago and drew the series - as India did this time. This winter, there was a thing I thought he might have heard of, called an Ashes series, where England went to Australia and crushed them. As he seems not to have followed cricket before this summer, I hope this is helpful in getting him up to speed with the game and England's current position within it.

  • rahulcricket007 on August 2, 2011, 8:32 GMT

    i m just surprised to see that how english media back their own team. just only two victories at home conditions against a handicapped side which is not playing with their full strength and the english media are thinking that they are going to create a new era like the west indies of 80s and the aussies of 2000s . what a dream ? england are playing most of the cricket on the home conditions . lets see what will happen when they tour to south africa , sri lanka and india .i m sure after these tour they would forget of becoming no.1

  • demon_bowler on August 2, 2011, 8:19 GMT

    For all the tiresome talk of England beating India in India, when will you give us a proper series? We drew the 2002 and 2007 three-test series with understrength sides, on both occasions coming back from a test down. The BCCI solved this "problem" by reducing the "series" to two tests in a pathetic attempt to sit on India's ratings lead over its rivals. The first test was won single-handedly by one of Tendulkar's rare fourth-innings centuries after India had been outplayed on the first four days; the second was drawn. But this is no proper contest between the sides. Give us a four- or five-match series, and we'll see who comes out on top!

  • Yevghenny on August 2, 2011, 8:19 GMT

    With regards to India being under strength due to injuries - England have lost Trott and Tremlett during the series, with Swann sustaining an injury. The difference is England have players who can step up.

  • reghuh on August 2, 2011, 7:46 GMT

    Full credit to England for such a convincing victory.They literally drubbed the Indian bowling and slaughtered the batting line up of India. Sehwag coming back to the squad could help boost the morale and the attitude of the Indian players for sure.Mr.Dhoni is completely out of form and its high time one chance is given to young players atleast in this period when Dhoni is out of form completely. My ideal team for 3rd test would be 1) V.Sehwag 2) G Gambhir 3) R Dravid 4) S.Tendulkar 5) VVS Laxman 6) MS Dhoni(WK & C) 7) H Singh/S.Raina 8) Z Khan 9) P Kumar 10) Sreesanth 11) I SHarma What say people

  • on August 2, 2011, 7:38 GMT

    "See how this team does in Australia", Saket?

    Is a 3-1 win last Australian summer not good enough for you or something?

  • Bollo on August 2, 2011, 7:38 GMT

    Absolutely, there`s an aura about this English team that`s been building for some time. A 3-1 victory in Aus at the very least is nothing to sniff at. No subcontinental team has ever won there, even SAf only once in 100 years. Their bowling in particular has very impressive depth.

    Since Oz relinquished the crown as No.1 after 14 years at the top, South Africa lasted about 5 months, and it looks as if India will last about 18 months. How long England can hold on to it will be very interesting. South Africa in particular will be itching for a crack at them. Interesting times ahead.

  • sidsway14 on August 2, 2011, 7:30 GMT

    I agree with most of u guys.. Australian team tht ruled the cricket stage for a decade is way ahead of this team. Am an indian but an english fan.. and i dont know if this is the best side.. i loved the ashes 2005 side better.. still.. these ppl show better character.. and india was blown away.. as indians we can complain.. we can say a lot of things.. but looking at the margin of the english victory.. i should say.. indian's are frustrated bcos they actually believed they were number one.. i dont think this english side is number one.. but.. even south africa will struggle with these guys.. 319 runs..!!! oh my word.. tht too coming from behind.. something close to this was wen laxman and dravid(not india) did it at kolkata.. this was a team effort though.. i'd say.. india, england and south africa are contenders for the number one spot.. but i guess the english side is a tad better.. they are a more complete unit and they can bounce back..!!!

  • chandau on August 2, 2011, 7:23 GMT

    Circumstances have provided England a chance to show thier valour; play a 6/5 team in the next test. trott is croked so... Strauss, cook, bell, kp, morgan, prior, bresnan, broad, swann, anderson, tremlett. Its a chance to knock the opposition out with an old school West Indian style pace barrage. at least 3 of the Indian top 7 look suspect against the fast bouncing ball so how about it? but i wont bet for it... 'coz it will still be the traditional safety first from england :)

  • on August 2, 2011, 7:21 GMT

    So this is a 'depleted' Indian side...because two players were injured in the first Test? If you rely on Zaheer Khan so much for your bowling attack, that's not a good sign! And while Sehwag may have been out too, last time I checked Tendulkar, Dravid, Dhoni, Laxman and Gambhir all played at Lord's...As for the comment about let's see how England do abroad in Australia- last time I checked we beat them 3-1, with each victory being by an innings.

  • on August 2, 2011, 7:16 GMT

    India has no ability to win outside of their territory. They are the worst number one of all time. Icc should change their point system soon.

  • azhar_hassan on August 2, 2011, 7:15 GMT

    England have played really well to win the first two tests. There are still two matches left though. England bowlers have bowled really well in home conditions on wickets suitable for fast bowling and swing. Can they be as dominant on less friendly wickets? Does this performance mean that they can beat India in India? Until then, it seems a little premature to be talking about developing an aura.

  • chokkashokka on August 2, 2011, 7:12 GMT

    I'd like to see this aura competing in the subcontinent - a true No. 1 team needs to win in all conditions. Lets invite the aura to India and see it turn to dust in a matter a days. Aura or a puff of dust - time will tell.

  • on August 2, 2011, 7:05 GMT

    A number 1 ranked team should have dept. It clearly shows that india is out if its dept in this series.

  • on August 2, 2011, 7:04 GMT

    England played like Champs, and India like kids waiting to get into a restroom, having said that by this yardstick the best captain in world should have been Azhar who whitewashed the english team with 3-0 results on dust bowls, win matches every where and face spinners in the sub continent, before thinking about Aura, the feeling of the fan getting kicked on his bum for believing in Aura is not that great, I know that because I am a die hard Indian who has had his rear kicked by his Indian superstars.

  • on August 2, 2011, 6:51 GMT

    England currently have three more fast bowlers who would get into this India team, Finn, Onions and Shazad. There is no chance of any of them getting a game in this series for England however. The batting is weaker though. Apart from Ravi Bop, there is no-one with a previous cap who could come in. Anyone esle would be a debutant. Maybe the next game should be on a flat pitch with 5 bowlers and trust Broad, Bresnan and Swann to make up for Trott's runs.

  • george204 on August 2, 2011, 6:48 GMT

    An a slightly unrelated note, would the Indian batsmen's performance against the short ball make a few people reconsider the decision to leave Dilip Vengsarkar out of the Cricinfo all-time India XI? An average of 44 in that era (especially when Malcolm Marshall had a vendetta against him!) was worth AT LEAST 10 more in today's game. This England attack isn't Roberts/Holding/Garner/Croft and this pitch wasn't a Sabina Park minefield circa 1980, but the Indian batsmen played the short ball dreadfully.

  • on August 2, 2011, 6:26 GMT

    I don't think india losing this series with 3-0 or 4-0 simply because england won the first two tests against bewildered and depleted indian side which lacking depth in batting and bowling.I admit that england have played better cricket than india.I have never seen indian test side like this in past 3 yrs under dhoni.I under stand that their loss due to changes in batting positions and extremely low confidence of the bowling department. I hope the return of sehwag n gambhir n zaheer will reinstate their legcy.Remember according to icc if india manages to 2-2 or 1-2 in the series they still be the no.1 with 124 and 121 rating points respectively n england with 118 and 121 .I hope india retain their best test team tag by giving their 100% in the next matches which they haven't given yet. Go india all the best.

  • smudgeon on August 2, 2011, 6:26 GMT

    I've quite like the way England have outplayed their opposition so far. While I think the gap between the first three ranked test teams is narrow, England really seem to be the better placed, with a balanced team, plenty of depth, talented youth, and self belief. They remind me of the Australian team in 1995 - not yet an unstoppable juggernaut, but on the way.

  • stormy16 on August 2, 2011, 6:15 GMT

    First it was India and now its Eng - jumping to compare themselves to the Aussies which is a joke. Ind are #1 but drew their last two series against SL and SA. Eng are yet to get to #1!! Having said that I agree with the author that Eng are winning those 50/50 battles and showing real signs of being a great side but to even compare to the Aussies there must be consistent over a period of time. Lets not forget a chaotic SL took this same attack for 400+, 3 tests in a row at the begining of the summer and Eng only won that series thanks to SL at Cardiff. Granted Eng have all in place to be the new force in test cricket for a while and showing real signs that they will do so.

  • ListenToMe on August 2, 2011, 6:06 GMT

    I don't think that Eng is such a consistent team. Yes, they are at the moment. But I think, they are not that mentally tough. They can easily lose confidence with one or two humiliating defeats. Also I don't think that without Broad, they are much ahead from any other top team. I think all have seen their inconsistency before. They cannot keep in the top position for long time. I bet.

  • on August 2, 2011, 5:59 GMT

    @Saket - Seems like you are not following England closely to strat commenting on them. England has won Ashes in AUSTRLIA 7 months back 3-1 with all three victories being innings margin. They drew with RSA 1-1 in RSA last year around. Sri Lanka they have not toured and as well India in recent times. Moreover even the great Australian team found it difficult in Sri Lanka and India. Point here made in article is the ability to win from tough situations, be it home/away is what determining an Aura. Injury happened to Tremmlett as well but they had a better backup bowler in place. And don't get too corky on me because i despise England and like Aus cricket.

  • on August 2, 2011, 5:30 GMT

    When india played out for a draw against SA in the last test match of the series and the whole country was celebrating the fact that India returned from SA having drawn the serie, I had maintained that this is not the sign of a champion side. A team becomes champion not just by winning but by showing winners attitude. With 9 wickets in hand and a required rate of possibly around 5 the top ranked test team in the world should not playout for draw. They could ve tried which they did nt... THAT WAS NOT A CHAMPIONS ATTITUDE"

    The last match in the WI just reinstated my view India may have the talent but the intent is not there. Here in England, India was simply outclassed by a much superior side. The way england just buldozed india onto abject surrender gives some pointers about places this england team would go.. Its still early days, but if england can keep this up, they soon could be the true heirs to the throne left vacant by the ausies provided they perform in the subcontinent too

  • Tom_Bowler on August 2, 2011, 5:24 GMT

    After England dismantled Bangladesh and Pakistan last summer Australian fans told us that we were only capable of beating weak sides at home, our attack, particularly Jimmy, would never get wickets overseas. We toddled over to Australia and handed them their most humiliating defeat since the West Indies were in their prime. Prior to this series lots of Indian fans were waxing lyrical on the quantity and style of runs their antique middle order would run up and how Zaheer was the best swing bowler in the world. Two games in and the best India can hope for is their demoralised and outclassed team might scrape a draw somewhere and save a bit of face. The only noise from Indian fans now apart from excuses are predictions that England will never win in the subcontinent. Are they right? Maybe but you'd have got very poor very fast backing opposing fans opinions of the England cricket team at the bookies recently.

  • on August 2, 2011, 5:21 GMT

    Great performance by ENG without a doubt. But not so long ago the very same was being said about Dhoni's IND - "finding ways to win from difficult positions", "won the major moments", "a team gaining some fearsome, ruthless momentum" - a team that won 8 of its last 11 series (including against ENG and AUS), and drawing the other 3 ! ENG has every right to rejoice, but it would be naive to lose sight of the fact that cricket can often be a great leveler !

  • on August 2, 2011, 5:16 GMT

    I find it funny how the indians were so fast at starting to talk their team up and telling everyone how great the indian team was when they started winning but now the english are doing it the indians seem to be shouting about how its undeserved and the english havnt proven themselves yet. I don't get you indians, I really don't

  • rickdolby on August 2, 2011, 5:06 GMT

    This just shows how toothless the Indian batting lineup is in tough batting conditions, all very well averaging 600 per inn on dustbowls where the ball rarly gets above the kneeroll, india havent managed over 300 all tour a team that even resembles greatness would have a least put up a fight in alien conditions. And to blame injuries what a laugh, if my memory serves me correctly injuries never bothered the great west indian or aussie sides there just bring in another world beater, unlike indian, another domestic god who struggles in real conditions. maybe Makund should go back to Ranjit trophy where the ball doesnt get above his waist and play against some 15 year olds.

  • SirLen on August 2, 2011, 4:55 GMT

    Predictable that the injuries card has been played at this early stage. See I would accept that if the two matches had been close, but England have taken India apart twice. And lest you not forget that Trott was virtually incapable of batting and Swann was severely hampered. The argument that England need to win in India to prove number 1 status, or that it is really the title of South Africa, is hilarious. Amazing how the ICC rankings system is perfectly valid when India are #1. Well with India's Dad's Army, it will be a long time before they are challenging England for #1 again

  • Patchmaster on August 2, 2011, 4:49 GMT

    I love the way that IND fans are blaming injury - I think ENG actually had more injuries than IND - the difference is the class of replacements and the long term planning and training that ENG do, i.e. Bresnan comes in for injured Tremlett and plays a great game.

  • on August 2, 2011, 4:40 GMT

    Some people need to understand winning in india is not the end all and be all.even the great aussie teams struggled in india.england have done very well overseas under the current regime,they won in australia and drew in sa.what i find impressive is the way they've played their cricketSome people need to understand winning in india is not the end all and be all.even the great aussie teams struggled in india.england have done very well overseas under the current regime,they won in australia and drew in sa.what i find impressive is the way they've played their cricket

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on August 2, 2011, 4:39 GMT

    As much as I hate to admit it, Eng is resembling Aus with their boucebackablity (in a TEST not a SERIES) and Prior is resembling Gilchrist. It started when they managed to draw a series in SA despite being outplayed for most of it. That takes some doing.

  • gzawilliam on August 2, 2011, 4:30 GMT

    hahah Ricky Jana... The difference between the England Cricket Team and the football team is the cricket team plays for each other.. The football team the players play for themselves..

  • tmd1 on August 2, 2011, 4:26 GMT

    Until i see England win a game with 11 English born players i can never regard them as the top cricket country.To be able to produce only 7 or 8 English players good enough to play test cricket should be a damming inditement on the local talent in their country.Other countries have overseas born players every now and then but they do not rely on them filling their team like England does.When was the last time 11 English born players played in a winning test match (or 10,or 9).

  • bhaloniaz on August 2, 2011, 4:23 GMT

    England, Aus and SA are very similar team. Three quicks with good backups (may be SA backups are not as strong). England has a better spinner. Tahir would be good as well. Aus and SA has better batting, but England's strong tail makes their batting the best. India and Srilanka are similar team. India might be a little stronger (India has better quick bowlers). I am aware india is number 1 in ranking. That would not change the fact India and Srilanka having less number of quality quicks and as a result their otherwise strong batsmen sometimes do not do as expected when they travel to Eng, Aus or SA.

  • pop123 on August 2, 2011, 4:22 GMT

    A injury hit indian side and england are celebrating, what are the results from the past 2 years for england overseas, just an ashes win in australia and they dont even perform in subcontinent. Where as india has been consistent and have not lost a overseas series from the past 2.5 years, they have drawn or won the series, real test for england to maintain this No.1 status if they do get there to win outside england, where they will look like real dumps.

  • Alexk400 on August 2, 2011, 4:16 GMT

    There is no aura. if you really watched the game. England were in trouble many times. India lacked the 4th option to take out tail India would have won both test if they won the key moments to get rid of tail. This england team is good. Actually better than india without openers. i really like the TALL fast bowling all rounders idea. i do not think england can win india simply because it does not matter how tall you are , ball won't bounce or swing. Indians play swann very well. So unless england get lucky with green top like SA got lucky twice in India followed up by spinning wickets.

    England won key moments. I am not sure there is any aura. if england had one great bowler then probably yes. Steyn is million times better than anything england can throw. He bowls six perfect ball successively at dravid. I like other thing about this england team is that they fight!. Can they fight when they are down?. if same condition reversed.i doubt it. Pressure will make any team choke except aus

  • subbass on August 2, 2011, 4:15 GMT

    @Hasan Cheema, England do have a 2nd spinner, Monty Panesar, check his Test record, it is very good.

  • on August 2, 2011, 3:39 GMT

    Full credit to England for their convincing performances in this series. However, 'Aura?" After TWO matches against a team that was clearly handicapped by injuries? Let's see how this team does in SA, Sri Lanka, Australia and of course India the next couple of years. Then maybe that word would be justified. After all, any team should be winning at home.....

  • on August 2, 2011, 3:29 GMT

    "England beginning to develop an aura"...That's the funniest thing i have ever heard...All the great sides in the games history have dominated other teams by such performances in their own backyard..in alien turf..but England did this at home...England can be called the best team only when they manage to defeat India at home..Its the biggest challenge in cricket at the moment.!!

  • on August 2, 2011, 3:24 GMT

    Welll said Andrew, England has easily the best Fast bowling group on the planet. Yes, Sth Africa have Steyne and India have Zaheer, but England have 4 TALL quality accurate medium fast bowlers who pound it into you all day long. The only difference is England also has Swann, so right now they just play 3 talll quicks and keep one as reserve for injuries. But agree with you on the quieter pitches as previously Collingwood could bowl and give the front-line bowlers a rest. If England play all 4 quicks and Swann, that would be devastating. They could bowl quality ball all day knowing and waiting for just that one mistake. Remember the West Indies, they relied on the same principle and were No 1 for nearly 20 years. Good bats and a quartet of quality fast bowlers to choose from. This England team atm is easily the best in the world.

  • grizzle on August 2, 2011, 2:42 GMT

    I like Andrew's typical English caution: `England will expect India to come back strongly...' at a time when even the most optimistic Indian fan (I'd like to think I am one such) doesn't just see the glass as not half-full, but as having been drained to its very dregs. India couldn't beat a county side playing like this.

  • vaidy on August 2, 2011, 2:42 GMT

    Two wins against a depleted Indian side and you are already talking of the 'aura'?!! I agree, being depleted is not an excuse at the top level, however, India may be down but not completely out of it as yet. Let the series end with a score of 2-0 or 2-1 for England and I will surely welcome your beliefs.

  • pabbu on August 2, 2011, 2:36 GMT

    India were outplayed.There is no question of that. Even Harbhajan Fully-Fit the Result would have been the same. About India's batting order, Well without specialist opener any Team would suffer. Indian Selectors have to Rethink their selection especially for Abroad Tours. Well my opinion is this English is no match for Australia team in his heydays.This Team is yet to be proven in South Africa, India, Pakistan, Srilanka, West Indies, New Zealand. No Other Team will Dominate like Australia did. They need to be consistent to be No.1.

  • valvolux on August 2, 2011, 2:23 GMT

    I don't think the team have an aura - it's playing in England which I think will spook opposition teams. They have a class outfit that will decimate any team on home soil. It's premature to compare them to Australia because right now England have a fully fit team. The reason Australia won for so long was because of their depth - they had bowlers and batsmen on the sidelines with world class test records. England have shown they can cover when a seamer down-what happens when Swan goes down? What happens when one of the openers goes down?the only way to dominate for a long period of time is to be able to consistently replace like for like. India have shown they are reliant on 3 or 4 guys being fit. England I think have better depth, but its yet to be seen. When fit though, there's not a better team in the world at the moment and are deserving of being number one given they've had some great success in recent years away from home against good teams, which India haven't.

  • on August 2, 2011, 1:10 GMT

    This english team reminds me of australia.they are ruthless,aggressive.plenty of match winners.fringe players contributing very well.i doubt even the sehwags,gambhirs and the khans could have stopped this juggernaut.wish the football team could learn from them!

  • on August 2, 2011, 0:51 GMT

    hmmmmmm, If England really want to no.1 for a long series they need to find another spinner along with swann, as in India or Lanka, or Pakistan(??) fast men can do nothing

  • GobarGas on August 1, 2011, 23:23 GMT

    Having seen this Indian team now and just how poor it is, I think the danger is that England will let their guard down subconsciously and give India a draw in one of the remaining two matches. They must motivate themselves by adopting the WHITEWASH as their private goal. I hope they have already. Go ENGLAND!

  • HatsforBats on August 1, 2011, 23:07 GMT

    I don't think there's any argument that on form, Eng are the best team in the world at the moment. Apart from a couple of isolated performances, India have been insipid and Eng have hardly been challenged. It's a shame though that this really hasn't been a series of no.1 vs no.2 with both teams at full strength. Much like the recent Ashes, this series is a clear case of one team not even being in the hunt. I would think Eng would be more pleased with their draw in SA rather than series wins over depleted/out-of-form sides.I think its an indictment of the glutton of short-format cricket that most test series are not competitive enough.

  • on August 1, 2011, 22:14 GMT

    I am loving every bit of these performances by England Team and I am a big fan of their style and approach to Test Cricket. But comparing them with Australian Invincibles is a little exaggeration. This would be the same mistake which India made by winning a couple of series at home and considered themselves as good as Australian Giants and the result is that they have been exposed in English Conditions big time. On paper batting line up such as India have, no one can believe that English bowlers were toying with them. Despite droping many catches in two matches they dismisses India as easily as ABC. So, in nut shell, England have still lot to prove, they have to go to Sub Continent and beat Sri Lanka, Pakistan and India there if they want to come close to what Australia used to do under Steve Waugh and Ricky Ponting. At the moment England have shades of Australian Invincibles but no where even close to them.

  • knowledge_eater on August 1, 2011, 22:07 GMT

    If people think India win in their back yard only .. well, same thing for England, they can't win in Subcontinent and had very hard time in SA. SA beat them recently in their backyard. India beat them in 07. Australia almost beat them in 09. So, to tell them great side is still long way to go. Their bowlers are very competitive in English condition, but haven't showed their class in subcontinent, like SA has. India worked hard to retain their title, same thing for England, will have to work very hard to retain it. I expect Australia to be much stronger in coming ashes. Also, I am excited to see how England can survive against Zak (if he plays in next 2 tests), who might have ran over them on first day and 4th day at Lords with Ishant, and could have changed the game in TB, when England were 124/8. England are good side to compete but they will have to defend their title as India has by playing SL, SA, WI, and now Eng, later India plays Aus. Can England survive playing these teams?

  • demon_bowler on August 1, 2011, 21:56 GMT

    If there were times on the first three days when India had their moments, today it was all one-way traffic; absolute surrender by the no.1 side. Three words described today's play: men against boys.

  • landl47 on August 1, 2011, 21:46 GMT

    I'm not sure why Tremlett would walk back into the team ahead of Bresnan. Tremlett is a very good bowler, but he doesn't bat or field as well as Bresnan and, with 7 wickets for under 100 runs in the match, Bresnan showed he is more than capable of competing with the best in the world with the ball. I don't think England are going to play with 5 bowlers, even with Bresnan, Broad and Swann as bowling all-rounders, so if Trott isn't fit, I'd expect another batsman to come in, maybe Bopara, who can also bowl a bit. Bell looked right at home at #3, so England will lose nothing there. This is, I think, the best all-round England team I've ever seen, with really no weak links. The 2005 team had the young Bell, who wasn't really good enough at that point, the King of Spain, Ashley Giles, who wasn't a top-class spinner and Geraint Jones who was neither as good a batsman nor W/K as Prior. England will be #1 soon and I expect them to stay there for a while.

  • Herath-UK on August 1, 2011, 21:46 GMT

    England's performance was fantastic but not unexpected;Mahela Jayawardene at the begining of the Sri Lankan tour said England is the No. one team.By comparison Sri Lankan performance against England was much better in dismal weather and moving ball.Sri Lankans main problem was no sun;Indians limping confirmed they don't deserve to be the the No. one team. Ranil Herath - Kent

  • jackiethepen on August 1, 2011, 21:36 GMT

    What's missing in this assessment? What happened on Day Three actually when England were 67 runs behind and Bell (hurriedly promoted to 3) came in at 6-1. Strauss soon departed and Bell built the foundation of the second innings with partnerships, first with KP and then with Morgan. He had never achieved a century against India before. His 159 is not only his finest innings but won him a place at the top table for the first time. He is now No 5 in the ICC Test rankings. He is the leading runscorer in Test cricket in 2011, 681 runs @ an av. of 113.50. Think he is worth a mention.

  • liz1558 on August 1, 2011, 21:35 GMT

    Re: the five man attack issue. Seeing as how he has had so little impact with the ball, England could drop Swann and go with a four man pace attack - Tremlett, Broad, Anderson and Brezy. England never had a problem dropping Underwood when conditions didn't suit - and England have won here in spite of Swann's bowling.

  • subbass on August 1, 2011, 21:33 GMT

    Yeh well said, completely agree, the sheer ruthless way they win games is a joy to watch, the age of the key players and the way the reserve players step up, bodes very very well for the next 5 years, next challenge is for them to get their ODI team at least in the top 3 or better, as much as Tests are the truest form of cricket it is vital that we become better than the current mid table ODI side. Onwards and upwards for the Test boys though !

  • bumsonseats on August 1, 2011, 20:49 GMT

    i guess ur right. having watched england for 40 years the 05 team was good, but i take this team to be better. to beat any australian team by an innings 3 times as they did last winter, im not sure if that had been done before.youn mention swing but its the one type of bowling that will get wickets in every country nobody likes it. the next thing to do is beat india in india which is a hard thing due to their conditions. but with the bounce of the tall bowlers i think it could be done. dpk

  • KingOwl on August 1, 2011, 20:44 GMT

    England building an aura? Huh? Am I missing something? Let us see how they perform in India or Sri Lanka first, shall we? This bowling attack will be totally toothless in tough, spin friendly conditions. And the English batsmen will be all at sea against top quality spin bowling in those conditions. England are certainly a very good side in friendly conditions. But then, so is SL and so is India.

  • vatsatheboss on August 1, 2011, 20:40 GMT

    I am an Indian. I accept England played better cricket and deserve to be No1. But please dont compare these guys with the great Australian team. reasons: 1)Out of 11 they had 7 or 8 legends of the game whereas england dont have players of that calibre. 2) Also this bowling attack will face its toughest test in the subcontinent. So no logic in saying that this Eng bowling lineup is great. The aussie team used to win matches on featherbeds in subcontinent. I dont see this Eng team winning a series in India in my lifetime. 3) There is no clear No 1 now. Aus were Number 1 by light years ahead of the No 2 team. If ever there is a No 1 now, its South Africa not England.

  • cricketSB on August 1, 2011, 20:38 GMT

    Seriously! Bresnan made a mockery of Raina and Yuvraj.

    The ball was 20 overs old, not brand new. And Breasnan hurled them at only 80 miles an hour ... Kumble's fast one would be near that mark!

    Nobody likes to face short-pitched bowling. But that's part of your job as a batsman in Test cricket. Steve Waugh, Saurav Ganguly, Justin Langer ... they all struggled with the short stuff. But they found a way around their shortcoming.

  • Alexk400 on August 1, 2011, 20:36 GMT

    There is no aura. Indians are just ill equipped with injury to their top players. Indian middle order strong when openers give good partnership. Without that India is ordinary team. Also selection mistakes by dhoni. That said England method is as good as anyone building team with Fast bowling all rounders. I am not sure same england team can win in INDIA. Until they win in India , they are all same level as india. For SA is better team with better fast bowler and Imran tahir as spinner. England found bowlers suit their swinging conditions. England can beat australia because conditions are same there. SA for me best team. No one is equal to steyn in swinging condition. That said if there is no sehwag fireworks england can beat 4-0. But i think england will win the series 2-0 with last two test going to be draw.

  • Yevghenny on August 1, 2011, 20:35 GMT

    What Australia also did was do it again and again, year after year. These England players have the opportunity to write themselves into history over the next 5 years. I see 5 years as the average shelf life of a team before retirements, injuries change it.

  • East_West on August 1, 2011, 20:21 GMT

    Excellent writing Andrew! Although I am an Indian and fan of Indian team, congrats to Brits!! A great win indeed and you folks gave us the reality check we needed!! India has no right to be #1. Yes, I said it! It was already known in the recent West Indies tour that India couldn't even had decent scores and had no clue, and we just survived by drawing the last one so that we can hold on to #1. Well, you folks gave us the kick in the ...!! Dhoni just can't bat against quality bowling and looks like Laxman and Sachin were hopeless at the best! Irrespective of absence of Gambhir or Sehwag, we did not have a decent batsman but we claim that we are the best batting line up! We had no Zaheer but that is no excuse! when Broad and Bresnan can take wickets why not our so called bowlers!!! Thanks England for brining indian fans to the ground, esp some who just can't accept that Indian does not deserve to be #1 and Sachin is no god!! He just can't deliver in crunch!!!

  • cricinfo_2010 on August 1, 2011, 20:19 GMT

    I think it's too premature to think England as world beaters. Alright they have beaten underprepared, injured and listless bowlers and batsman - i would go even further to say they have beaten India Team B (without Sehwag, Gautham, Zaheer and 4/5th bowler). They are now like India in India - unbeatable - in swinging England pitches. One can't expect same success on of these medium pace swing bowlers to do well on sub-continent pitches. I think with Sachin appears finally to be in good touch, with Sehwag, Gautham, Zaheer back in next 2 tests - i will not be surprised India hit back in next 2 matches. (i would like to see a part 2 of the same article). Note that, despite 2 wins, India had it moments - unable to capitalize - due to lack of strike bowlers. So, all is not well for England - India is the one to be blamed for the losses.

  • SDHM on August 1, 2011, 20:18 GMT

    Having followed England for years, I can't help but think it will all go wrong somewhere - Headingley '09 and Perth spring to mind - but then again, this England side keep proving me wrong. They're not quite Australia at their peak though; that was a side built of genuine greats of the game, and none of these England players can claim they belong alongside them just yet! Who knows what'll happen in the next few years though? Tim Bresnan: Legend of Cricket has a nice ring to it for me...

  • cricketSB on August 1, 2011, 20:15 GMT

    Yes. On Day-1 Eng were 88/6, and very soon were 124/8. In reply, on Day-2, Ind were 267/4. From there, the went on to win under 4-days. Eng is showing that not only they can escape from tight corners, but also win the 50-50 situations. Indeed, this is the type of cricket Australia played. To some extent, a full-strength India from a year ago also showed similar qualities. While I am disappointed that India is being outclassed, I am happy that the no.1 rank will be passed on to a deserving side.

  • on August 1, 2011, 20:12 GMT

    after 23 years of watching England, naively thinking they were better than they were, through so many false dawns and dreams of prosperity, finally here is a side on the verge of greatness for me to witness. I am finding it hard to grasp still just how good we've now got, still fearing India et al would chase these targets or cause yet another England collapse, but no, this team is made of sterner stuff than I've ever seen in an England shirt. I'd never normally wish to be compared with Australia, but here is a positive exception - long may this continue!

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  • on August 1, 2011, 20:12 GMT

    after 23 years of watching England, naively thinking they were better than they were, through so many false dawns and dreams of prosperity, finally here is a side on the verge of greatness for me to witness. I am finding it hard to grasp still just how good we've now got, still fearing India et al would chase these targets or cause yet another England collapse, but no, this team is made of sterner stuff than I've ever seen in an England shirt. I'd never normally wish to be compared with Australia, but here is a positive exception - long may this continue!

  • cricketSB on August 1, 2011, 20:15 GMT

    Yes. On Day-1 Eng were 88/6, and very soon were 124/8. In reply, on Day-2, Ind were 267/4. From there, the went on to win under 4-days. Eng is showing that not only they can escape from tight corners, but also win the 50-50 situations. Indeed, this is the type of cricket Australia played. To some extent, a full-strength India from a year ago also showed similar qualities. While I am disappointed that India is being outclassed, I am happy that the no.1 rank will be passed on to a deserving side.

  • SDHM on August 1, 2011, 20:18 GMT

    Having followed England for years, I can't help but think it will all go wrong somewhere - Headingley '09 and Perth spring to mind - but then again, this England side keep proving me wrong. They're not quite Australia at their peak though; that was a side built of genuine greats of the game, and none of these England players can claim they belong alongside them just yet! Who knows what'll happen in the next few years though? Tim Bresnan: Legend of Cricket has a nice ring to it for me...

  • cricinfo_2010 on August 1, 2011, 20:19 GMT

    I think it's too premature to think England as world beaters. Alright they have beaten underprepared, injured and listless bowlers and batsman - i would go even further to say they have beaten India Team B (without Sehwag, Gautham, Zaheer and 4/5th bowler). They are now like India in India - unbeatable - in swinging England pitches. One can't expect same success on of these medium pace swing bowlers to do well on sub-continent pitches. I think with Sachin appears finally to be in good touch, with Sehwag, Gautham, Zaheer back in next 2 tests - i will not be surprised India hit back in next 2 matches. (i would like to see a part 2 of the same article). Note that, despite 2 wins, India had it moments - unable to capitalize - due to lack of strike bowlers. So, all is not well for England - India is the one to be blamed for the losses.

  • East_West on August 1, 2011, 20:21 GMT

    Excellent writing Andrew! Although I am an Indian and fan of Indian team, congrats to Brits!! A great win indeed and you folks gave us the reality check we needed!! India has no right to be #1. Yes, I said it! It was already known in the recent West Indies tour that India couldn't even had decent scores and had no clue, and we just survived by drawing the last one so that we can hold on to #1. Well, you folks gave us the kick in the ...!! Dhoni just can't bat against quality bowling and looks like Laxman and Sachin were hopeless at the best! Irrespective of absence of Gambhir or Sehwag, we did not have a decent batsman but we claim that we are the best batting line up! We had no Zaheer but that is no excuse! when Broad and Bresnan can take wickets why not our so called bowlers!!! Thanks England for brining indian fans to the ground, esp some who just can't accept that Indian does not deserve to be #1 and Sachin is no god!! He just can't deliver in crunch!!!

  • Yevghenny on August 1, 2011, 20:35 GMT

    What Australia also did was do it again and again, year after year. These England players have the opportunity to write themselves into history over the next 5 years. I see 5 years as the average shelf life of a team before retirements, injuries change it.

  • Alexk400 on August 1, 2011, 20:36 GMT

    There is no aura. Indians are just ill equipped with injury to their top players. Indian middle order strong when openers give good partnership. Without that India is ordinary team. Also selection mistakes by dhoni. That said England method is as good as anyone building team with Fast bowling all rounders. I am not sure same england team can win in INDIA. Until they win in India , they are all same level as india. For SA is better team with better fast bowler and Imran tahir as spinner. England found bowlers suit their swinging conditions. England can beat australia because conditions are same there. SA for me best team. No one is equal to steyn in swinging condition. That said if there is no sehwag fireworks england can beat 4-0. But i think england will win the series 2-0 with last two test going to be draw.

  • cricketSB on August 1, 2011, 20:38 GMT

    Seriously! Bresnan made a mockery of Raina and Yuvraj.

    The ball was 20 overs old, not brand new. And Breasnan hurled them at only 80 miles an hour ... Kumble's fast one would be near that mark!

    Nobody likes to face short-pitched bowling. But that's part of your job as a batsman in Test cricket. Steve Waugh, Saurav Ganguly, Justin Langer ... they all struggled with the short stuff. But they found a way around their shortcoming.

  • vatsatheboss on August 1, 2011, 20:40 GMT

    I am an Indian. I accept England played better cricket and deserve to be No1. But please dont compare these guys with the great Australian team. reasons: 1)Out of 11 they had 7 or 8 legends of the game whereas england dont have players of that calibre. 2) Also this bowling attack will face its toughest test in the subcontinent. So no logic in saying that this Eng bowling lineup is great. The aussie team used to win matches on featherbeds in subcontinent. I dont see this Eng team winning a series in India in my lifetime. 3) There is no clear No 1 now. Aus were Number 1 by light years ahead of the No 2 team. If ever there is a No 1 now, its South Africa not England.

  • KingOwl on August 1, 2011, 20:44 GMT

    England building an aura? Huh? Am I missing something? Let us see how they perform in India or Sri Lanka first, shall we? This bowling attack will be totally toothless in tough, spin friendly conditions. And the English batsmen will be all at sea against top quality spin bowling in those conditions. England are certainly a very good side in friendly conditions. But then, so is SL and so is India.