West Indies in England 2012

Saker rates attack as good as great Australians

George Dobell

May 29, 2012

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Graeme Swann was the bowler to finally shift Shivnarine Chanderpaul, England v West Indies, 1st Test, Lord's, 4th day, May 20, 2012
Graeme Swann received high praise from David Saker for his role around England's three quicks © Getty Images
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David Saker, the England bowling coach, has said England's bowling attack is "as good as" the great Australian attack that dominated world cricket for more than a decade.

Saker, the 46-year-old Australian, was appointed to the England role in April 2010. Before that, however, he had played with and against some of Australia's finest cricketers as a fast bowler with Victoria and Tasmania. He was also assistant coach of the Victoria side that lifted two Sheffield Shield titles and of the Delhi Daredevils side that played in the 2009 Champions League. He is, therefore, well placed to offer informed views on the subject.

"We should be saying our group is as good as them," Saker said. "You can compare them. The Australians were stand-out bowlers, a great group for a long time and they also had a world-class spinner. Glenn McGrath and Shane Warne in tandem were amazing, but I have seen some spells from Jimmy Anderson and Graeme Swann that have been just as good or better at times. It's important we don't forget the ability of Swanny when he comes in around the three quicks. That's really important.

"McGrath was the stand-out in that group but they had Brett Lee, Jason Gillespie and Andy Bichel, too: they were all fantastic bowlers. It's a bit like when Jimmy and Swann bowl together - it is not unlike McGrath and Warne at times. There is so much pressure on the batsmen.

Craig McDermott's departure from Australia's bowling coach role has created a vacancy back in Saker's home country, but there appears little chance of him being persuaded to leave the England job such is his admiration for their talent.

"In Sri Lanka, there were a couple of times, especially late on day four in the second Test, those two reminded me so much of McGrath and Warne. They put so much pressure on the Sri Lanka batting group and the wickets fell. They also have the back-up of some really good quicks as well, which is nice to have."

That 'back-up' may have an opportunity in the next Test. With England having secured a series-clinching victory over West Indies at Trent Bridge, England are considering resting James Anderson and, perhaps, Stuart Broad, and allowing Steven Finn and Graeme Onions an opportunity to adapt to Test cricket. While Saker understands that Anderson and Broad will be keen to play in Birmingham, he believes that England's strength in depth is such that even if they missed the Test, the quality of the attack would hardly be diminished.

"There's no doubt that the likes of Anderson and Broad will want to play as it gives them more chance of taking Test wickets. But if they have a Test off here and there, in my opinion, it probably gives them the chance to play longer. Those wickets can be picked up later because their careers will be longer. So there are two ways of looking at it.

"We have a lot of hard cricket ahead, Tests and one-dayers, and we need to make a decision for the good of English cricket. All our bowlers at Trent Bridge normally play in all three forms of the game so we have to be mindful of trying to give them a rest. But we also have to be mindful that nobody really wants to give up their place, which is fair enough, they are very proud of playing for their country. We have to assess that closely.

Two great attacks?

  • England

    James Anderson: 267 Test wickets at 30.05

    Stuart Broad: 161 at 30.42

    Tim Bresnan: 52 at 25.46

    Graeme Swann: 188 at 28.12

    Australia

  • Glenn McGrath: 563 at 21.64

    Brett Lee: 310 at 30.81

    Jason Gillespie: 259 at 26.13

    Shane Warne: 708 at 25.41

"If Finn and Onions were to play, I don't think we would lose too much. That's the beauty of it. Obviously, you would lose your top two bowlers, but the quality of the guys coming in is high. They will step up and do a great job. We showed that in Australia when we lost Broad and then Finn lost his spot. A lot of people were very dubious about whether we had the cover but we did. That proved the group of six or seven bowlers can all do a job if they get the opportunity.

Steven Finn has made no secret of his frustration at not being able to force his way back into the line-up and Saker appreciates that waiting on the sidelines can be tough when a bowler feels in good form.

"I'm sure Finn is very frustrated," he said. "The selectors pick the best team to try to win a game but I'm sure Finn will get his chance. He is still young. He is very exciting and his one-day form over the last 12-18 months has been outstanding. He will have a lot of cricket ahead of him. In an ideal world, we would love to get him in. But we have three fast bowlers doing a really good job."

Saker has been particularly impressed with the bowlers' ability to adapt to conditions as required. England were anticipating being able to utilise green wickets and conventional swing in the Test series against West Indies. Instead, however, they have been confronted with two slow, low wickets and conditions that have offered little assistance.

"The wickets have probably been flatter than we are used to in England," he said. "In that sense, it was really good that we took 20 wickets in each match. At times, it was really difficult because the batsmen dug in - particularly Chanderpaul and Samuels. We found it hard to dismiss them. I was really proud of the way the bowlers kept slogging away and got the breakthroughs. The reverse swing late on day three at Trent Bridge helped us out a bit as well. And the DRS helps as well with the lbws. The boys were outstanding. We applied a lot of pressure.

"This group is very skilful. What they do really well is assess conditions quickly. They will see if it is swinging and, if so, they will stick to our original plans. If it is not doing that, they will come up with some other plan. They are very good at talking out in the middle. Stuart and Jimmy are very good at that and they pass on that message to the rest of the group. To be able to bowl conventional swing and they say 'this is not going to work' and then switch to reverse and attack in different ways - that is a huge weapon to have."

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by   on (June 11, 2012, 13:32 GMT)

This is most rediclous i have even read , " Macgrath and Warne" were the greatest pair of bowlers in the history of test cricket . One is without doubt the best test fast bowler ever and second is best legspinner ever to have played the game. Jimmy is good bowler but how can you compare Jimmy with great Glenn Macgrath, look at their averages. wheares Macgrath use to give away 21 runs per wicket , jimmy gives 30. 10 runs more per wicket. Warne and Swan is like comapring a magican with a sceintist, have any other bowler is history forced opnonents to take cycatrist appointment ?

Swany and Jimmy are good , but Macgrath and Warne were graetest ever. JImmy never have to bowl against Tendulker in his prime ( although he is ever green ) , and Swan never have to bowl against a certain Brain C. Lara.

Posted by HLANGL on (June 1, 2012, 14:46 GMT)

@JG2704 on (May 31 2012, 20:11 PM GMT): "@HLANGL on (May 31 2012, 08:36 AM GMT) Ok - fair play , it wasn't convincingly but it was fair and square. Also which match did we win by 1 wicket?". Sorry, it should have been by 3 wickets, mentioning it to be by 1 wicket is my mistake. After all, this has become kind of a brainstorm session, hehe.

Posted by   on (June 1, 2012, 10:48 GMT)

Good to talk the 'bowling unit' up but Saker's going a bit over the top in his comments. Anderson and Swann 'better' at times than the McGrath and Warne? Really? How does it get better than them at their best? Wanting to be as good as, would be a more realistic appraisal. As already pointed out, South Africa will be an acid test. England are good and hopefully they will get even better. Only time will tell how good they actually turns out to be.

Posted by   on (June 1, 2012, 6:44 GMT)

Please tell me this is a Page 2 Humor section . What next Ian Bell is next Don Bradman ... All i can accept is Anderson, Broad , Bresnan and Swann are better batsmen and fielder compared to Lee, Warne , Gillespie and McGrath ....

Posted by Meety on (June 1, 2012, 3:27 GMT)

@Bollo - yes, your 2nd post is pretty interesting. I think its much more comparable to compare the current England line up v Oz current line up. No one in their right mind would say Oz's current line up is better than the McGrath/Warne & co line up, yet STATISTICALLY the current Oz bowlers are better than the current Pom line up! Fact is most England fans would laugh at any such comparison & they would point to less games & experiences in different conditions.......... LOL!

Posted by JG2704 on (May 31, 2012, 20:15 GMT)

@Saffie1987 on (May 31 2012, 09:13 AM GMT) - Maybe your team's attitude has been reflecting yours all this time which is why they are drawing more series than they win? Maybe they will become a great unit but they have to win more series if they do.

Posted by JG2704 on (May 31, 2012, 20:11 GMT)

@HLANGL on (May 31 2012, 08:36 AM GMT) Ok - fair play , it wasn't convincingly but it was fair and square. Also which match did we win by 1 wicket?

Posted by JG2704 on (May 31, 2012, 20:07 GMT)

@RandyOZ on (May 31 2012, 10:00 AM GMT) Those players you mentioned weren't even playing cricket when the great WI side were around

Posted by g.narsimha on (May 31, 2012, 15:53 GMT)

SCREAMINGEAGLE(ON-31-5-12-AT-09-38) BRAVO MAN cant ask more .Let me make it clear one thing in advance, even if win as happening for decades in INDIA ,He wil not achnowlegde , only mettrs E NG home heroics , none others .

Posted by wonderstar1 on (May 31, 2012, 14:51 GMT)

@5wombats.haha mate u r very funny.why do u keep talking abt Indias lat tour of Eng all time. Obviously, India didnt do well and it showed in result and no doubt Eng walloped India. But what abt their previous tours to England where they won in 2007 and also drew in 2002 apart from winning the famous natwest final. Tell me when was the last time England beat India in ODI in India. I can only remember the thrashings they got in India. England won the test series after 15 yrs of gap between 1996-2011 against India. in between these most of the series were won by India and some were drawn series. Now tell me who has the upper hand overall . let alone ODIs which India always dominates aganist England.

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