England news October 2, 2013

Buttler targets Test cricket from Lancashire move

Myles Hodgson
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Jos Buttler, England's one-day wicketkeeper-batsman, has his sights set on Test cricket after sacrificing a settled life with Somerset to move to Lancashire.

Buttler hopes the switch from Taunton to Old Trafford will allow him to escape his typecast as an aggressive one-day player and establish himself in all forms of the game to put pressure on England's incumbent Test wicketkeeper Matt Prior.

Born and bred in Taunton, Buttler, 23, has already played 19 one-day internationals and 25 Twenty20 internationals with his powerful batting lending itself to the limited-overs formats. But he believes that with the guidance of Peter Moores, Lancashire's coach and himself a former wicketkeeper, he can improve sufficiently to challenge for a place in England's Test side.

He became irritated at his lack of opportunities as wicketkeeper in Championship cricket at Somerset, where Craig Kieswetter - who Buttler replaced for England in one-day cricket - became their established man behind the stumps.

"I was a little bit concerned about being pigeon-holed as a one-day player and I'm keen to get rid of that tag," Buttler said at his unveiling as a Lancashire player at Old Trafford. "I'm more ambitious than that and I want to play Test cricket.

"I want to become a wicketkeeper. When you're keeping wicket for England in one-day cricket and not doing it at Somerset, there's bound to be a bit of frustration. I think that's obvious to anyone that if you want to keep wicket for England, you've got to be keeping day in, day out. I think I'd been doing myself a disservice and taking a huge risk if I wasn't plying my trade in county cricket as a wicketkeeper while trying to perform at international level."

Buttler was taken to Taunton from the age of 9 and since making his first class debut for Somerset, ironically against Lancashire in 2009, he has averaged 31.73 in 48 matches, including nine half centuries and three hundreds. He is aiming to improve those figures in the coming years with Lancashire, where he hopes Moores's coaching expertise can also help him develop his wicketkeeping skills.

"I know your numbers have to stack up and that's down to me to turn myself into a consistent run-maker in first-class cricket," Buttler said. "Now I've made the decision to leave Somerset and come here and further not just my wicketkeeping but further my cricket as a whole. It's an exciting place to be, there are some great people to work with and I'm excited where my cricket can get to both batting and wicketkeeping."

Buttler admitted the last year had become difficult for him at Somerset while his contract situation became such a hot topic. The speculation over his future finally ended when it was confirmed within hours of their last match at Trent Bridge, when they secured their future in Division One, that he would be leaving and the worst kept secret in county cricket was ended when Lancashire revealed they had signed him despite interest from Warwickshire and Nottinghamshire.

"It's been a tough year," he said. "The easiest place was just focusing on playing cricket. It's when I wasn't playing when people were asking questions and at the end of the day, you've got to do what's right for your career, and this is the right move. I'm excited about it, and am excited about where I can get to as a player. This is a great place to be doing it.

"Having met with Peter Moores and Mike Watkinson, the ambition they've got at this brilliant venue is exciting. That's something I want to be a part of. It is a massive club. As I walked in with my agent Neil Fairbrother, I realise this is a huge place. Coming from Somerset, which is quite a small club, you realise this is a big club, and I'm excited to be a part of it."

Buttler's Lancashire debut may have to wait. He is expected to be required by England for their one-day series in the West Indies in March followed by the World T20 in Bangladesh at the start of April. Before then Buttler has a month-long trip with the England Performance Programme to Australia, alongside new Lancashire team-mate Simon Kerrigan and is likely to be selected on England Lions' tour of Sri Lanka in January.

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  • Nutcutlet on October 2, 2013, 21:47 GMT

    If Buttler is serious about becoming a Test batsman/wk then he needs to show that he can bat for good lengths of time. As it is, he seems to be regarded as a finisher in format cricket, coming in when there are no more than5/20 overs left in a t20 & perhaps 8/50 in an ODI. That is not a foundation/preparation for battting at #7 in test cricket, as I'm sure he's well aware. Once he's got a few scores of 130+ in fc cricket, then he can consider himself a serious contender for the Test team. This means that the clever ramps & scoops will have to be put away (in fc matches) & replaced with a focus on building an innings. He is undoubtedly talented - what we need to find out now is if he's also disciplined. Then there's the keeping... I wonder if he couldn't follow Alec Stewart's example & concentrate on getting his batting to Test standard & let the keeping at Test level be more of a long term project. Stewart bided his time as a specialist bat while Jack Russell was first choice w/k.

  • TenDonebyaShooter on October 7, 2013, 18:38 GMT

    @Henrik; read my message again and you'll see that I used the word 'almost' in a way which negates your suggestion that I overlooked Glenn Chapple. In any case you are actually wrong that Chapple 'never played for England' and Allan Jones was similarly 'blatantly overlooked' by England; Chapple played an ODI for England , and Jones played what at the time was considered a test match, only subsequently ruled not a test match. Other cases of England selectors' oversight, notably of Jones's Glamorgan colleague Don Sheppard, could well be termed more blatantly. As for goings on in England's selection policy in the last ten years, whatever you think about that subject certainly that shouldn't have brought you into collision with my post, which only referred to a certain time in the 1990s, i.e., earlier. By the way, I am a Lancashire fan.

  • landl47 on October 5, 2013, 12:03 GMT

    Buttler needs to put in a couple of years of hard work on his game while Prior is still around. I have been quite critical of his tendency to put show before dough in his England appearances, but the 3 innings he played in the ODIs against Aus showed that he can be a quality batsman if he develops the discipline to work on his defence and his orthodox shot-making (something Morgan failed to do). As for his keeping, I thought it was excellent in the CT and in the ODIs- much better than I expected from someone who has had relatively few opportunities at county level.

    I disagree with Chris Ward; Bairstow is another England W/K prospect and in a few years so will Ben Foakes be, so if Buttler wants the job he'll have to push himself to get it, which is as it should be.

    I hope Kies stays at Somerset and it works out well for both club and player. I don't think he's going to make it as an international, but a good county career isn't the worst fate in the world.

  • JG2704 on October 4, 2013, 9:44 GMT

    @Chris Ward on (October 3, 2013, 22:45 GMT) Playing well paced inns in 50 over games is still a whole lot different to playing a long test innings. I believe he is capable of doing this but HE has to up his FC game. Morgan talked a good game re playing tests for England but I'd hardly say his actions were of a man desperate to play test cricket. Jos has better opportunities with the gloves but the same opportunity with the bat so it's up to him to up his game in that dept and NOT JUST believe in all that has been said to/about him.

  • on October 3, 2013, 22:45 GMT

    The people criticising his lack of ability to bat long innings and that he is only useful as a finisher in limited overs cricket clearly didn't watch his performances in the lat few one day games. The boy can really play. He's one of the most talented players in the English game and provided he doesn't let that go to his head and keeps his head to the grindstone doing the hard work that is necessary to help a talent flourish, he'll be an absolute shoe-in when Prior retires. No one else is even close, and I'm pretty sure that there will be several big Test hundreds on his record before he hangs up his boots.

  • Juiceoftheapple on October 3, 2013, 20:15 GMT

    Ok its been 6 days and I'm finally coming to terms with this. Basically, yes England have turned him, 'to make test keeper you'll have to keep in the CC'. They are culpable. The Craig thing was just completely unfortunate. Kies is a great batsman, a good wickie, he had the gloves, he is currently the better FC player. Somerset cant bend to the whim of England if it means destabilising the team. So that leaves Jos, and I can just about - this pains me no end - see his angle. He's spent his entire life within 30 miles of Taunton, he's young, his confidence is boundless, he wants experiences, he wants and (more importantly) believes he can be the best, Manchester offers him something new, promises of coaching to the level he aspires, the bright lights of a big city, one of the most exciting sporting cities on the planet (if you like the other game), a 5 year plan as Priors successor. Its rubbish but, as someone who went to Manc for 5 years I would be a hipocrite if I didnt understand.

  • JG2704 on October 3, 2013, 18:35 GMT

    @siltbreeze - I realise he needs to big up his move to Lancs but it would be nice if he had said something positive about his time at Taunton. Maybe something like "While I've enjoyed my time at Somerset , I'm excited by this new challenge" Maybe I'm being over sensitive

    @fishface1971 - I think right now Somerset has left Jos I'm afraid

    @somersetscott - I'm not sure Craig will ever get back in the England side. His face doesn't seem to fit

    @ChewtonMendip - Re "Somerset through and through" - I'm not sure he's as Somerset as you think despite him being born and raised here. I genuinely think his head has been turned. Craig may be the less talented player but IMO we'd eventually lose both Craig and Jos in an effort to keep Jos happy and Craig is surely a better option than Barrow. Obviously I could have it totally wrong re Jos but I genuinely have had a strong feeling he no longer wanted to be at the club even if he was offered the WK role full time

  • Cyril_Knight on October 3, 2013, 18:02 GMT

    Very refreshing to hear a young Englishman aim for Test cricket. Alex Hales needs to take note.

  • bobmartin on October 3, 2013, 17:55 GMT

    Why would Buttler have even considered Nottingham.. With Chris Read, probably one of the best keepers in the world, with no international calls, Buttler would wind up in the same boat as he was with Somerset... The same situation would probably exist at Warwickshire with Tim Ambrose currently occupying the #1 keeper spot... So to get the chance as a first-choice keeper with Lancashire...I'm not surprised he accepted their offer..

  • on October 3, 2013, 14:34 GMT

    I just can't understand it.

    1, he won't be around that much really over the next couple of years (if he continues to play as he has over the past year poss two) He is a shoe in for the 20/20 and almost a shoe in for 50 over for England.

    2, he wants to improve his wicket keeping and his FC game. OK wK he will improve as will be in the england set up and prity much will be the WK for that format for England. County he won't be there that much so Lancs will have to get cover for the games he won't be there. Which will be quite a few.

    3, Improve his batting for the FC to get in the test side. Sorry but he is not a Test batsman, far from it. him and morgan should not be in the test side at all. I would love them to have toe consistancy but there impact batsmen. There not reliable for consistant 50, 100, 150 etc no matter what average they get.

    Look at Bopara, ave 42 in Fc and 31 for England, Morgan 35 in FC and 30 in test. Both players are constantly hit by the press and fans low rates.

  • Nutcutlet on October 2, 2013, 21:47 GMT

    If Buttler is serious about becoming a Test batsman/wk then he needs to show that he can bat for good lengths of time. As it is, he seems to be regarded as a finisher in format cricket, coming in when there are no more than5/20 overs left in a t20 & perhaps 8/50 in an ODI. That is not a foundation/preparation for battting at #7 in test cricket, as I'm sure he's well aware. Once he's got a few scores of 130+ in fc cricket, then he can consider himself a serious contender for the Test team. This means that the clever ramps & scoops will have to be put away (in fc matches) & replaced with a focus on building an innings. He is undoubtedly talented - what we need to find out now is if he's also disciplined. Then there's the keeping... I wonder if he couldn't follow Alec Stewart's example & concentrate on getting his batting to Test standard & let the keeping at Test level be more of a long term project. Stewart bided his time as a specialist bat while Jack Russell was first choice w/k.

  • TenDonebyaShooter on October 7, 2013, 18:38 GMT

    @Henrik; read my message again and you'll see that I used the word 'almost' in a way which negates your suggestion that I overlooked Glenn Chapple. In any case you are actually wrong that Chapple 'never played for England' and Allan Jones was similarly 'blatantly overlooked' by England; Chapple played an ODI for England , and Jones played what at the time was considered a test match, only subsequently ruled not a test match. Other cases of England selectors' oversight, notably of Jones's Glamorgan colleague Don Sheppard, could well be termed more blatantly. As for goings on in England's selection policy in the last ten years, whatever you think about that subject certainly that shouldn't have brought you into collision with my post, which only referred to a certain time in the 1990s, i.e., earlier. By the way, I am a Lancashire fan.

  • landl47 on October 5, 2013, 12:03 GMT

    Buttler needs to put in a couple of years of hard work on his game while Prior is still around. I have been quite critical of his tendency to put show before dough in his England appearances, but the 3 innings he played in the ODIs against Aus showed that he can be a quality batsman if he develops the discipline to work on his defence and his orthodox shot-making (something Morgan failed to do). As for his keeping, I thought it was excellent in the CT and in the ODIs- much better than I expected from someone who has had relatively few opportunities at county level.

    I disagree with Chris Ward; Bairstow is another England W/K prospect and in a few years so will Ben Foakes be, so if Buttler wants the job he'll have to push himself to get it, which is as it should be.

    I hope Kies stays at Somerset and it works out well for both club and player. I don't think he's going to make it as an international, but a good county career isn't the worst fate in the world.

  • JG2704 on October 4, 2013, 9:44 GMT

    @Chris Ward on (October 3, 2013, 22:45 GMT) Playing well paced inns in 50 over games is still a whole lot different to playing a long test innings. I believe he is capable of doing this but HE has to up his FC game. Morgan talked a good game re playing tests for England but I'd hardly say his actions were of a man desperate to play test cricket. Jos has better opportunities with the gloves but the same opportunity with the bat so it's up to him to up his game in that dept and NOT JUST believe in all that has been said to/about him.

  • on October 3, 2013, 22:45 GMT

    The people criticising his lack of ability to bat long innings and that he is only useful as a finisher in limited overs cricket clearly didn't watch his performances in the lat few one day games. The boy can really play. He's one of the most talented players in the English game and provided he doesn't let that go to his head and keeps his head to the grindstone doing the hard work that is necessary to help a talent flourish, he'll be an absolute shoe-in when Prior retires. No one else is even close, and I'm pretty sure that there will be several big Test hundreds on his record before he hangs up his boots.

  • Juiceoftheapple on October 3, 2013, 20:15 GMT

    Ok its been 6 days and I'm finally coming to terms with this. Basically, yes England have turned him, 'to make test keeper you'll have to keep in the CC'. They are culpable. The Craig thing was just completely unfortunate. Kies is a great batsman, a good wickie, he had the gloves, he is currently the better FC player. Somerset cant bend to the whim of England if it means destabilising the team. So that leaves Jos, and I can just about - this pains me no end - see his angle. He's spent his entire life within 30 miles of Taunton, he's young, his confidence is boundless, he wants experiences, he wants and (more importantly) believes he can be the best, Manchester offers him something new, promises of coaching to the level he aspires, the bright lights of a big city, one of the most exciting sporting cities on the planet (if you like the other game), a 5 year plan as Priors successor. Its rubbish but, as someone who went to Manc for 5 years I would be a hipocrite if I didnt understand.

  • JG2704 on October 3, 2013, 18:35 GMT

    @siltbreeze - I realise he needs to big up his move to Lancs but it would be nice if he had said something positive about his time at Taunton. Maybe something like "While I've enjoyed my time at Somerset , I'm excited by this new challenge" Maybe I'm being over sensitive

    @fishface1971 - I think right now Somerset has left Jos I'm afraid

    @somersetscott - I'm not sure Craig will ever get back in the England side. His face doesn't seem to fit

    @ChewtonMendip - Re "Somerset through and through" - I'm not sure he's as Somerset as you think despite him being born and raised here. I genuinely think his head has been turned. Craig may be the less talented player but IMO we'd eventually lose both Craig and Jos in an effort to keep Jos happy and Craig is surely a better option than Barrow. Obviously I could have it totally wrong re Jos but I genuinely have had a strong feeling he no longer wanted to be at the club even if he was offered the WK role full time

  • Cyril_Knight on October 3, 2013, 18:02 GMT

    Very refreshing to hear a young Englishman aim for Test cricket. Alex Hales needs to take note.

  • bobmartin on October 3, 2013, 17:55 GMT

    Why would Buttler have even considered Nottingham.. With Chris Read, probably one of the best keepers in the world, with no international calls, Buttler would wind up in the same boat as he was with Somerset... The same situation would probably exist at Warwickshire with Tim Ambrose currently occupying the #1 keeper spot... So to get the chance as a first-choice keeper with Lancashire...I'm not surprised he accepted their offer..

  • on October 3, 2013, 14:34 GMT

    I just can't understand it.

    1, he won't be around that much really over the next couple of years (if he continues to play as he has over the past year poss two) He is a shoe in for the 20/20 and almost a shoe in for 50 over for England.

    2, he wants to improve his wicket keeping and his FC game. OK wK he will improve as will be in the england set up and prity much will be the WK for that format for England. County he won't be there that much so Lancs will have to get cover for the games he won't be there. Which will be quite a few.

    3, Improve his batting for the FC to get in the test side. Sorry but he is not a Test batsman, far from it. him and morgan should not be in the test side at all. I would love them to have toe consistancy but there impact batsmen. There not reliable for consistant 50, 100, 150 etc no matter what average they get.

    Look at Bopara, ave 42 in Fc and 31 for England, Morgan 35 in FC and 30 in test. Both players are constantly hit by the press and fans low rates.

  • ChewtonMendip on October 3, 2013, 11:25 GMT

    Very sad that Buttler was forced out of Somerset but completely understand why he's left and wish him all the best at Lancs. So disappointed that the Somerset management's blind faith in Kieswetter has continued. Kieswetter can't keep standing up which is surely where wicketkeeping prowess is really shown. His keeping to Chawla in one game was so bad that Trescothick had to put a back-stop in and in one-day games he often stays back to the medium-pacers. Buttler's keeping was excellent for England this summer and he has far more potential to become a really good w/k. Agree with Siltbreeze that Somerset have made a big mistake in failing to take a tough decision with Kieswetter. Not only is Buttler more talented but he is a Somerset boy through and through who loved the club and whom the supporters naturally adored. Having no feel for the club it's perhaps not a coincidence that Nosworthy should favour the South African. Sad indictment of the current Somerset management all round.

  • somersetscott on October 3, 2013, 10:45 GMT

    As a Somerset fan, I'm gutted to see him go. SCCC have some serious soul-searching to do; we are now just about hanging on to the recent near-glories with no obvious chance of trophies with the current squad. We need to sign up a few more "peak age" players like we did with Compton, Thomas, Kirby a few years ago as the squad is horribly full of inexperienced youngsters and guys at the end of careers.

    I know it is what you say when you join a new club but I worry that the players aren't bought into Nosworthy. I'm more concerned about Buttler's view that Moores will improve his game than the small club jibe.

    I'd love to see us get Alex Hales as he can't get a FC game at Notts and we desparately need an opener so Compdog can bat at 3. Tregs/Meschede/Gregory can comfortably cover Buttler's exit in FC game. I'm assuming the overseas player will be a quickie.

  • somersetscott on October 3, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    I think Kieswetter has a much greater chance of being the next England wicket-keeper batsman than Buttler. His FC stats are considerably better, he is much more consistent with the bat, his keeping is better. CK has dug Somerset out of a number of holes this year whereas Jos has rarely come to the plate when needed.

    I also think, like Eion Morgan, the fact that Buttler will be in the ODI / T20 side and centrally contracted will mean he has limited opportunity to improve his longer game. Whilst a brilliant hitter, Buttler has been shown up a few times by leg-spin and extreme pace.

  • fishface1971 on October 3, 2013, 9:39 GMT

    How to endear yourself to your former county..."Coming from Somerset, which is quite a small club". Yes, but a club where you belong. The boy may have been taken from Somerset, but Somerset will never be taken from the boy. Two years and he will be back. I've said it before, good luck Jos, but I think you've been very badly advised.

  • crockit on October 3, 2013, 8:23 GMT

    Stewart was not biding his time whilst Russell was keeping. Stewart would quite happily have been reserve keeper all his career and played as specialist batter. He was, however, a team man. Buttler averages 31 on fairly easy taunton wickets in first class and has only a low 20s average in ODIs in spite of better performance in series against Aus. One could name at least half a dozen quality glovemen who are better bets for the keeper / no 7 slot when it becomes available. I would imagine one line of thinking might be to see if young Foakes comes good in next 2-3 years and then elevate him to matt prior's reserve and eventual replacement. Young player wise I would still like to see Bairstow successfully tighten up his batting technique a bit and work on his keeping - he could also fit the bill

  • siltbreeze on October 3, 2013, 8:15 GMT

    @JG2704 I think it's unfair to say Buttler doesn't come across well here - the quotes are taken from his unveiling as a Lancs player, so of course he's going to be saying how excited he is, and not how sad to be leaving Somerset.

    @maaarsh Completely agree that Buttler's stats need context. His red ball cricket improved this year and his innings in the 2nd ODI vs Aus showed that he is already far more than a short format finisher.

    Still think Somerset have made a great mistake in letting him go instead of taking a very tough decision on Kieswetter. I would've liked to see us follow Yorkshire's example and bring in a solid, no-ego keeper like Hodd to cover Buttler's absence. I really believe he is a special talent, in the Gilchrist vein, and the benefits of having him associated with the club when he becomes a real star are unquantifiable.

  • on October 3, 2013, 6:06 GMT

    @TenDonebyaShooter - Aha! So that's why Glenn Chapple never played for England... Over the past 50 years, the two players done most blatantly overlooked by England are Glamorgan batsman Alan Jones and Lancashire seamer Glenn Chapple. Since you're so great at conspiracy theories, could please you explain the over-representation of Nottinghamshire and Yokshire players of the past ten years or so beginning with Pietersen, Broad, Sidebottom, Pattinson, Patel, Lumb, Hales, Swann, Bresnan, Root, Bairstow, Ballance, Rashid, Shahzad?

  • on October 3, 2013, 1:49 GMT

    Treat him well, groom his talent and in three or four years when Prior hangs up the gloves he should be ready to step in.

  • lebigfella on October 3, 2013, 1:26 GMT

    I sincerely wish him all the best and I hope he doesn't turn from a potential to a 'didn't cut the mustard' as sooooooo many have before him. He obviously has precocious talent but he does really need to get the hard miles in. England obviously rate him but to be our top 'keeper he must out do some real talented players currently out there. Role on the 2014 season!

  • on October 3, 2013, 1:23 GMT

    If Buttler can have a good series for the England Lions against Sri Lanka A in January which he will most likely be a part of and assuming there is going to be at least a couple of unofficial tests and he can get some big hundreds and also increase his first class average up to 42 or 43 runs per innings he needs to increase his hundreds per match at the moment in FIrst class cricket he scores a hundred once every 16 matches which is pretty poor

  • bennybow on October 2, 2013, 22:20 GMT

    Interesting one. I would guess that England's current Test reserve keeper, Bairstow, was behind the stumps fewer times than Buttler over the season just finished. As he was played only for his batting or drinks carrying skills and unavailable for Yorkshire most of the time, I'd guess his keeping gloves are pretty unmarked.

  • JG2704 on October 2, 2013, 21:41 GMT

    Have to be honest (from a Somerset's fan point of view) he doesn't come across at all well in this piece.

    He says about being pigeonholed as a SF player , but that's because he has not consistently delivered the goods in the 4 day game at Somerset and until the last Aus series he played like a pigeonholed player for Eng more than he dis for Somerset. Also (until the last series vs Australia) he was playing more recklessly for England than he had been for Somerset. Sure the move will benefit his WKing but he can't say that being at Somerset has stifled his progress with the bat.

    I accept that if he wants to keep wicket regularly he has to move but it would be nice to think that he enjoyed playing at Somerset even if he felt now that it was time to move on. There is nothing in the article where it comes across that playing for Somerset was anything more than an inconvenience which I find a little sad

  • JG2704 on October 2, 2013, 21:40 GMT

    Have a slight issue with the article. Where it says Craig became the established WK seems to indicate that Jos and Craig were equally vying for the WK spot at the club. The truth is that Craig made his debut as WK in 2007 and had become the established WK for best part of 3 seasons before Jos made his debut as an outfielder/batsman in 2009. Unless someone can correct me , Jos made no issues re being reserve WK up until this year. So to me either he was unhappy (at lack of WK opportunities at the club) for the 3 full seasons playing and kept it to himself or he has grown to enjoy WKing regularly at Eng and realises he prefers that role or he sees WKing as his most likely avenue to get into the Eng side.

  • on October 2, 2013, 19:45 GMT

    Why would Moores assist him in becoming a better wicket keeper? Marty Prior was an atrocious keeper until Moores' influence was removed and he started working with Bruce French.

  • maaarsh on October 2, 2013, 18:54 GMT

    Thanks to CricketingStargazer for the first class example of examining career stats without any context or investigation of trends. I can't see many people seriously arguing Kieswetter is a better long term bet as a cricketer. Somerset are keeping him because he's much less likely to take the step up and become an absent friend.

  • TenDonebyaShooter on October 2, 2013, 18:48 GMT

    "As I walked in with my agent Neil Fairbrother... ". Well, there's the clue as to why he signed for Lancs "despite interest from Warwickshire and Nottinghamshire". There was a time in the 1990s when, with David Lloyd and Mike Atherton in charge for England, joining Lancashire was an almost guaranteed pathway to selection for England (Graeme Lloyd, Ian Austin and Warren Hegg for England, anyone?), but those days are long gone, and Buttler still has quite some work to do if he's going to overtake other candidates like Bairstow and Ballance, and displace Matt Prior in tests. @1st_april: "who doesn't love an attacking Keeper?" Well, to name one example, a certain chap who I believe holds the all-time record for first-class wicket-keeping dismissals by the name of Bob Taylor. And I think he knows a thing or two about keeping wicket ...

  • CricketingStargazer on October 2, 2013, 17:59 GMT

    He averages under 32 in First Class cricket and has 3 centuries in 48 First Class matches. Kieswetter averages a touch under 40 and has 11 centuries in 101 First Class matches.

    To displace Kieswetter Buttler would have to be a far superior 'keeper and he isn't... yet.

    It is fair enough Jos Buttler wanting to play Tests, but he needs to get that average up well past 40 to start being taken seriously as a potential Test batsman. Right now it is hard to see him batting higher than #8 in Tests, even if picked.

    If you compare Kieswetter and Buttler, Kieswetter has a considerably better average in ODIs, First Class and T20, Buttler is a fraction superior in T20Is and only in List A does Buttler come out clearly on top. The only place where Buttler has clearly superior numbers is in strike rate: there he is clearly superior in all the limited over formats, which may well be why he finds himself typecast!

  • 1st_april on October 2, 2013, 17:04 GMT

    i do have scruples about Jos Buttler against spin....especially in Bangladesh T20...he will mature as a player....T20 over form is anyway labile by nature , given Prior's bedevilled summer...if Buttler can channel his aggression in whites , the bridge might not be too far...who doesn't love an attacking Keeper?

  • 1st_april on October 2, 2013, 17:04 GMT

    i do have scruples about Jos Buttler against spin....especially in Bangladesh T20...he will mature as a player....T20 over form is anyway labile by nature , given Prior's bedevilled summer...if Buttler can channel his aggression in whites , the bridge might not be too far...who doesn't love an attacking Keeper?

  • CricketingStargazer on October 2, 2013, 17:59 GMT

    He averages under 32 in First Class cricket and has 3 centuries in 48 First Class matches. Kieswetter averages a touch under 40 and has 11 centuries in 101 First Class matches.

    To displace Kieswetter Buttler would have to be a far superior 'keeper and he isn't... yet.

    It is fair enough Jos Buttler wanting to play Tests, but he needs to get that average up well past 40 to start being taken seriously as a potential Test batsman. Right now it is hard to see him batting higher than #8 in Tests, even if picked.

    If you compare Kieswetter and Buttler, Kieswetter has a considerably better average in ODIs, First Class and T20, Buttler is a fraction superior in T20Is and only in List A does Buttler come out clearly on top. The only place where Buttler has clearly superior numbers is in strike rate: there he is clearly superior in all the limited over formats, which may well be why he finds himself typecast!

  • TenDonebyaShooter on October 2, 2013, 18:48 GMT

    "As I walked in with my agent Neil Fairbrother... ". Well, there's the clue as to why he signed for Lancs "despite interest from Warwickshire and Nottinghamshire". There was a time in the 1990s when, with David Lloyd and Mike Atherton in charge for England, joining Lancashire was an almost guaranteed pathway to selection for England (Graeme Lloyd, Ian Austin and Warren Hegg for England, anyone?), but those days are long gone, and Buttler still has quite some work to do if he's going to overtake other candidates like Bairstow and Ballance, and displace Matt Prior in tests. @1st_april: "who doesn't love an attacking Keeper?" Well, to name one example, a certain chap who I believe holds the all-time record for first-class wicket-keeping dismissals by the name of Bob Taylor. And I think he knows a thing or two about keeping wicket ...

  • maaarsh on October 2, 2013, 18:54 GMT

    Thanks to CricketingStargazer for the first class example of examining career stats without any context or investigation of trends. I can't see many people seriously arguing Kieswetter is a better long term bet as a cricketer. Somerset are keeping him because he's much less likely to take the step up and become an absent friend.

  • on October 2, 2013, 19:45 GMT

    Why would Moores assist him in becoming a better wicket keeper? Marty Prior was an atrocious keeper until Moores' influence was removed and he started working with Bruce French.

  • JG2704 on October 2, 2013, 21:40 GMT

    Have a slight issue with the article. Where it says Craig became the established WK seems to indicate that Jos and Craig were equally vying for the WK spot at the club. The truth is that Craig made his debut as WK in 2007 and had become the established WK for best part of 3 seasons before Jos made his debut as an outfielder/batsman in 2009. Unless someone can correct me , Jos made no issues re being reserve WK up until this year. So to me either he was unhappy (at lack of WK opportunities at the club) for the 3 full seasons playing and kept it to himself or he has grown to enjoy WKing regularly at Eng and realises he prefers that role or he sees WKing as his most likely avenue to get into the Eng side.

  • JG2704 on October 2, 2013, 21:41 GMT

    Have to be honest (from a Somerset's fan point of view) he doesn't come across at all well in this piece.

    He says about being pigeonholed as a SF player , but that's because he has not consistently delivered the goods in the 4 day game at Somerset and until the last Aus series he played like a pigeonholed player for Eng more than he dis for Somerset. Also (until the last series vs Australia) he was playing more recklessly for England than he had been for Somerset. Sure the move will benefit his WKing but he can't say that being at Somerset has stifled his progress with the bat.

    I accept that if he wants to keep wicket regularly he has to move but it would be nice to think that he enjoyed playing at Somerset even if he felt now that it was time to move on. There is nothing in the article where it comes across that playing for Somerset was anything more than an inconvenience which I find a little sad

  • bennybow on October 2, 2013, 22:20 GMT

    Interesting one. I would guess that England's current Test reserve keeper, Bairstow, was behind the stumps fewer times than Buttler over the season just finished. As he was played only for his batting or drinks carrying skills and unavailable for Yorkshire most of the time, I'd guess his keeping gloves are pretty unmarked.

  • on October 3, 2013, 1:23 GMT

    If Buttler can have a good series for the England Lions against Sri Lanka A in January which he will most likely be a part of and assuming there is going to be at least a couple of unofficial tests and he can get some big hundreds and also increase his first class average up to 42 or 43 runs per innings he needs to increase his hundreds per match at the moment in FIrst class cricket he scores a hundred once every 16 matches which is pretty poor

  • lebigfella on October 3, 2013, 1:26 GMT

    I sincerely wish him all the best and I hope he doesn't turn from a potential to a 'didn't cut the mustard' as sooooooo many have before him. He obviously has precocious talent but he does really need to get the hard miles in. England obviously rate him but to be our top 'keeper he must out do some real talented players currently out there. Role on the 2014 season!