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Allow England players time for IPL - Strauss

David Hopps

October 10, 2013

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Alex Hales hits down the ground, England v Australia, 2nd T20, Chester-le-Street, August 31, 2013
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Andrew Strauss, the former England captain, has called for England players to be allowed to play in the IPL or risk falling behind the major cricketing nations in the shorter format of the game.

Strauss contends in his newly-published autobiography, Driving Ambition, that established players are left in limbo when it comes to T20, unable to develop their skills either in IPL or in England's domestic tournament due to non-stop international commitments.

His remarks come as the ECB and players' representatives, led by the Professional Cricketers' Association, seek to conclude an agreement on England central contracts in which the opportunity to play in the IPL has been a major bone of contention.

Strauss, conservative by instinct, writes: "Going to India, surrounding yourself with the best players in the world and learning how to innovate and adapt in vastly different conditions must surely be of huge benefit to players (not to mention the obvious benefits to their bank accounts).

"Unfortunately, the IPL teams are reluctant to select England players, knowing that they will not be available for the whole tournament. In addition the ECB is less-than-keen to see its best assets wandering off to a foreign domestic tournament when they should be getting invaluable rest.

"However, if England are serious about being a force in the international game, one thing the administrators have to look at is creating a window to allow our players to participate. The IPL is not going anywhere and we run the risk of slipping behind other teams in both ODI and Twenty20 cricket if our players don't participate."

Strauss turned down ECB entreaties to apply for the role of managing director of England cricket, which is soon to be vacated by Hugh Morris, the man centrally involved in contract discussions on behalf of the ECB. Instead he will commit most of his energy to his corporate consultancy business. If that spares Strauss from coming up with his own solution to what is arguably the most intractable issue in English cricket, his impatience for change is clear.

"New players coming into the England side in recent years have generally had a reasonable level of experience in the Twenty20 game and have managed to expand their games accordingly.

"What remains a problem, though, is that players who are already part of the England set-up do not play a lot of domestic Twenty20 cricket, so ironically their skills do not continue to develop as much as might be the case. For me, that makes the opportunity for England players to compete in the IPL a really important issue."

England have switched the order of their spring internationals in 2014, preceding the early Test series against Sri Lanka with a mix of T20 and ODIs, which has encouraged the belief that England - and Sri Lanka - players with IPL contracts will be allowed to use IPL as an acceptable warm-up and return for the start of England's international season at the last minute.

Strauss had personal experience of the pressures that IPL has brought to bear on English cricket when he became embroiled in the long-running power struggle between the ECB and Kevin Pietersen in the 2012 South Africa series. Pietersen took offence at the ECB's insistence that his wish to play IPL must always be secondary to his international duties.

For Strauss, England Test cricket remains sacrosanct: "The ECB were unwilling - rightly in my opinion - to let any player either miss or not be properly prepared to play in a Test match to fulfil IPL obligations."

To maintain Test cricket's supremacy, Strauss writes that administrators should place a keener focus on developing cricketers for the five-day game, which the current county system does not best serve; Strauss regarding it as putting volume ahead of intensity - a blow for the ECB which embarks upon its latest restructuring of the county game next season.

"In England, we should have an advantage over other countries because of our long-established domestic structure," he says. "What is desperately needed, in my opinion, is for that structure to move with the times.

"Administrators need to ask themselves, 'What is the best system for producing excellent England cricketers?' As that is where all the revenues for the game come from, rather than 'What is in the best interests of county members?' Looking at it from that standpoint would result in a very different domestic structure from the one we currently employ."

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Posted by JG2704 on (October 13, 2013, 8:10 GMT)

@ fguy on (October 11, 2013, 10:52 GMT) You're right re the last Ashes series and TBH , apart from the final test , KP was hardly flowing either and I think the conservative attitude comes from the top. To be fair , we also get plenty of snooty comms belittling our domestic competitions and team England as a whole from IPL fans too and many of them say it's jealousy etc so it works both ways. And yes , some Eng posters probably would big up IPL if it was English. But re our test players , I think the only guy who isn't part of our SF set up is Prior and of our test players , only KP would definitely get picked (although Root as a batsman can adapt sometimes and Bairstow is fairly positive if lacking in quality. Swann and Jimmy both went unsold in a previous IPL and I'd say they are prob our best bowlers . Anyway each to his own - all the best

please publish this time - nothing of offence

Posted by landl47 on (October 11, 2013, 22:52 GMT)

I'm not sure that Strauss's argument holds water, for several reasons: first, England hasn't been doing badly in T20Is even with very few players participating in the IPL. They tied with India in India, beat Pakistan in the UAE and have tied the Australians as well as winning the T20 World Cup in 2010 in WI. Second, the T20 side is getting less like the test side every year. Players like Hales, Lumb and Wright are T20 stars but nowhere near the test side. The issue for them is being released by their counties, not by England. Third, how much does England really care how well its T20 side does? 4 home T20Is a year isn't going to make the ECB rich and tests draw much better in England than everywhere else except Australia. 28 sell-out days a year in tests dwarfs the T20I income. The IPL doesn't generate a cent for England.

The players care because of the money. If England makes changes, it's to accommodate them, not please the fans or raise revenue.

Posted by JG2704 on (October 11, 2013, 20:31 GMT)

@ Juiceoftheapple on (October 11, 2013, 12:00 GMT) It'll be interesting to see what the county's stance(s) are re their assets. Last IPL , Notts would not allow Lumb and Hales to play IPL. Morgan will play IPL as per usual and while Carberry was superb in our domestic T20 comp this year , all the IPL franchises would likely have seen of him is what he did for England and that would hardly excite them. It'll be interesting to see how Lancs are with Jos and how Jos stands with IPL. He could do really well out there but if he is backing up his words he won't want to do IPL until he ups his 1st class game and is in the Eng test set up

Posted by Juiceoftheapple on (October 11, 2013, 12:00 GMT)

On the face of it Strauss makes sense. But when you look closer: India doesnt rate English batsman so not many of them would be picked, they have a fixation with Australians. They are only likely to pick current Internationals, who have plenty of time in such conditions and spend a lot of time surrounded by the best players in the world already. English county players over 30 years of age are likely to be allowed by their county to play as a 'pension tour' anyway, but the IPL doesnt want them (Stevens/Trego etc.). The core England players have got central contracts that pay very well, and them playing more cricket in India is not going to help their exhaustive schedules (would be nice if they played in English T20!!). Basically that just leaves you Buttler, Hales, Lumb and Morgan, Carberry, whose counties would probably now let them go, plus the Indians dont seem to care about our fast bowlers. So thats yer lot, and basically this is a non issue that isnt really worth the hypothetical

Posted by fguy on (October 11, 2013, 10:52 GMT)

@JG2704 you are one of the best & most balanced commenter whose views i respect. but you have to admit that (with a few exceptions) eng players are too conservative (putting it mildly). this last ashes series was a good prescription for insomnia. if it wasnt for KP i would hazard that england wouldnt be able to manage a run rate better than 1.5 also, i have seen plenty of eng fans constantly commenting very negatively about IPL. no one says that have to love or even like it (guess what : even i watch it only on occasion) but this holier than thou/look down your nose attitude is grating. & i can only imagine it'll get much much worse if/when eng players were to join wholesale. i can bet you if the IPL was a English product these same naysayers would've been saying it was the best thing since sliced bread.

Posted by SirViv1973 on (October 11, 2013, 9:54 GMT)

I would have to disagree with those ind fans who are saying the IPL would not benefit from the inclusion of the best Eng players. Surely the league would be stronger if the best Eng & for that matter Pak players are involved. There are a stack of pretty medicore Aus players who currently get picked up & last season there was a contingent of SRL players who all didn't get a game & were released early. Of our CC players I would imagine only 4 or 5 would be of interest to the franchises. However there are a number of non CC players who would also be of interest but due to county commitments they are unlikley to be allowed to enter the auction. In terms of what Strauss is actually talking about I can't really see how playing IPL is going to improve the techniques of longer fomat specialists but I can see how it may benefit shorter form specialists who play int T20.

Posted by Lmaotsetung on (October 11, 2013, 8:16 GMT)

I always laugh when I see the "develop skills in the IPL against the world's best" argument. How's that working for the West Indies and Australian players?

Posted by JG2704 on (October 11, 2013, 8:15 GMT)

@fguy on (October 11, 2013, 1:16 GMT) Nice to see that you know the views of your nation re English cricket as a whole. I admit our test players have been playing some dull cricket and we have a defensive mindset when going into ODIs also. Morgan and KP already regularly do IPLs and would you seriously say that guys like Hales,Buttler and Lumb are dull? Also I don't see English fans on here whining about it. Some of us would like to see our players involved in IPL , to see how they'd get on but I'm sure you could understand that we'd rather see those players playing for the counties we follow. It's a shame IPL and Eng season clashes but ECB can't expect IPL to change it's schedule just for them and with the short summers we get in Eng it's a long time to be without our better players. Others just don't like it. You can't expect it to be everyone's cup of tea

Posted by JG2704 on (October 11, 2013, 8:14 GMT)

@Charlie101 on (October 11, 2013, 7:42 GMT) I think one of the difficulties is also that the Eng management may feel fine about certain CC players going to the IPL but not others - due to workloads/injury niggles etc. I'd say someone like Prior who doesn't play any SF cricket (although his Eng record in SFs isn't that great) would be fine to go and England's management would be fine with that. The problem then is that it could easily spark unrest between players and management when players see Prior being allowed to play while others not so Eng have to make 1 rule for everyone

Posted by Charlie101 on (October 11, 2013, 7:42 GMT)

This is such a difficult question for the ECB and cricket . Imagine if Joe Root and Alex Hales had been allowed to play in the IPL as part of improving our T20 team. I am certain that Joe Root would not have developed into the Test batsmen he has become and Alex Hales could say goodbye to any ODI or Test ambitions he may have rather like Eoin Morgan. I am not points scorong or Aussie bashing here but Shane Watson test peformances save the Oval test have not been great over the last 2 years and this is down to T20 / IPL short cut cricket. I am a fan of the IPL and T20 cricket but test cricket must be the focus certainly for England.

Posted by humdrum on (October 11, 2013, 5:02 GMT)

@Happy_Hamster:I am sure you would positively enjoy the likes of Stuart Broad being clubbed by the likes of Yuvraj for tons of runs. Man, what a sad bunch you guys are.

Posted by JustIPL on (October 11, 2013, 4:20 GMT)

England are doing well in all formats of the game and they are the force to reckon with. Yes, it was good for WI players to develop through ICL, IPL and ICLT20 but for English there is very vibrant county circuit as a backup.

Posted by DC75 on (October 11, 2013, 3:54 GMT)

@hhillbumper: I do not know who Paul Daniels is nor do I care, nobody is defensive about IPL, we like IPL, and yes we like our cricketers and we do not care that much about whether you beat Aus in ashes 5-0 or 1-0, though I like Aus to win the return ashes, cannot comprehend how though. What we do care about is watching Jos Butler, Joe Root, or KP play alongside Watson, Steyn, Dhoni, Hodge, de Kock and the new kid on the block Neesham in IPL

Posted by venkatesh018 on (October 11, 2013, 3:31 GMT)

At last someone has belled the cat. Listen ECB

Posted by fguy on (October 11, 2013, 1:16 GMT)

it's better that england players arent involved. firstly they're dull as dishwater to watch & secondly their fans will keep whining about it

@Cpt.Meanster "We love watching talented English players".. please edit that statement .. maybe you like to watch them but indian fans as a whole couldnt care less

Posted by Happy_hamster on (October 11, 2013, 0:39 GMT)

DaisonGarvasis on (October 10, 2013, 5:33 GMT, I am not sure if you are aware of this but Strauss has retired so what can the ECB do? England players may benefit financially but the whole T20 thing is ok for kids/women and countries lacking high level contact sports I suppose it is pseudo-contact sport- seeing weaklings like Kohli and the H. Singh ranting and puffing their little chests out is so funny.

Posted by JG2704 on (October 10, 2013, 21:40 GMT)

PS - reading the article again (properly this time) it looks to me that Strauss doesn't know where he stands. He seems to talk about how great it would be for English players to play full IPLs , but then in the same article we have

"To maintain Test cricket's supremacy, Strauss writes that administrators should place a keener focus on developing cricketers for the five-day game, which the current county system does not best serve"

And then seems to agree with the amount of rest the management give the players.

I'm sorry but the only way England players play more shorter formats games is if it's either at the expense of rest or at the expense of longer format games which Strauss in this same thread seems to indicate is most important If you want to play more longer format games , it has to be at the expense of either rest or shorter format games and if you want players to play more shorter format games it either has to be at the expense of rest or longer format games

Posted by JG2704 on (October 10, 2013, 21:24 GMT)

I think many fans are missing the issue that the IPLtournament clashes with the English domestic season. I may be wrong here but I think it is the only country whose domestic season clashes with IPL. Personally , I'd love to see how our players do in IPL. As a Somerset fan (with the exception of Thomas) we are unlikely to have any IPL franchises interested in any of our players. And while I'm sure that Notts fans (with Hales/Lumb) , Lancs fans (with Buttler) and any other county fans would prefer to see their players play for their teams.

Posted by JG2704 on (October 10, 2013, 21:23 GMT)

Re test players playing IPL , I'm not sure how workable it would be anyway and let's be real here - only KP would be a shoe in. I don't see any of our other test batsmen gaining any interest from IPL sides. Swann should get picked up but he went unsold in the auction a couple of years ago. Jimmy also went unsold that year. But a huge issue is our workload quotas. Our test players play hardly any cricket outside of England colours as it is. IMO we overdo the resting of our players , but that's the way the management play it and as it stands we rest many of our test players for shorter formats as it is. So even if IPL franchises are interested in our players - if the idea is for our players to improve their shorter format game , it seems a little pointless having them out there doing just that and then resting the players from SF games/series

Posted by JG2704 on (October 10, 2013, 21:23 GMT)

Kind of strange to see Strauss saying all this as the regime had as reluctant - if not a more reluctant stance - when he was part of it all. It seems strange that he didn't campaign for IPL participation when he had a voice in England's plans. I don't think IPL sides are necessarily reluctant to pick Eng players because they are not available for a full IPL. I genuinely don't think too many of our players are rated by IPL sides anyway. KP always gets picked up despite limited availability and the Aus players have in previous seasons done IPL before or after a test series they're involved with.

Posted by JG2704 on (October 10, 2013, 21:22 GMT)

@DaisonGarvasis - KP asked to play a full IPL , ECB said no , KP retired from shorter fmts which Eng accepted (he was still picked for tests) , then there was the text thing which was why he was outed and then he unretired, May I just ask one thing - what can ECB do about Strauss for voicing an opinion? He is not part of the set up now and just in case you didn't notice he retired around this time last year

@Rohit Bhagchandani - Why has anyone got to love something because of the money involved?

@yorkshire-86 - It'll be interesting to see if Jos would do IPL as an outfielder. He was an outfielder/deputy WK before this year. I guess if he goes to IPL as an outfielder it kind of contradicts his reasoning for leaving Somerset.

@ Englishfan - Centrally contracted players don't play enough cricket IMO

@IndiaNumeroUno- Regardless of how one views IPL , no one holds anyone to ransom. Each player is free to sign or decline to sign the central contract

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (October 10, 2013, 20:55 GMT)

Who cares if we are good at t20. The monetary rewards are totally out of proportion and it has completely destroyed the unity of the cricket calendar and increasingly other concerns such the English season and West Indies international programme are being bulldozed out of existence by this giant cuckoo which is vamping cricket to nothing. Get rid of it and get back to proportion. It is a heinous crime against a sport which has enriched so many lives. The mass hysteria this t20 rubbish has spawned really shows how much people could be bothered about cricket in the first p[lace. Sooner or later it will lead to soccer like violence and a general decay of the spirit of cricket. As for West Indies this past year has shown the way forward....into nonexistence. Will they have a team in 10 years? NO warm words can hide the ghastly truth. Get rid of the cuckoo before it is too late.

Posted by JG2704 on (October 10, 2013, 20:33 GMT)

@Cpt.Meanster on (October 10, 2013, 18:49 GMT) I'll keep it brief as I realise constructive debate/reasoning isn't something you enjoy but of the players you mentioned - KP plays IPL anyway and 2 of the other 3 players you mention went unsold in auctions - so maybe the IPL franchises don't agree with you on talented players ...

Posted by Sigismund on (October 10, 2013, 19:35 GMT)

@yorkshire86 - but that is exactly Strauss's point. Those England players wouldn't get picked, because they're not good enough, because they don't have enough T20 experience, because they don't play in the IPL.

Frankly though I personally find this an agreeable situation and we should leave it as it is.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (October 10, 2013, 18:49 GMT)

Andrew Strauss speaking like a true gentleman. The ECB's ego and arrogance knows no bounds. Every country has players featuring in the BEST T20 league on the planet except good old England. Why is that ? Don't tell me it's cause of their county or summer plans. It is simple; they simply don't like the IPL. Look at SA; their players always play in the IPL and yet, they are the world's best test team. That speaks a tale don't it dear England ? I hope more England players play in the IPL. We love watching talented English players like KP, Joe Root, Ian Bell, Matt Prior and I am sure if given the opportunity, they can play for IPL teams and make England a better limited overs team.

Posted by hhillbumper on (October 10, 2013, 18:00 GMT)

It is so funny when Indian fans post on anything to do with a criticism of IPL.They get very defensive very quickly. I don't think England need the IPL and prob would not go for many English players any way. Having read the histrionics re a certain short batsman do we really need the usual nationalist rubbish from the fans.Ipl is to cricket what Paul Daniels is to live entertainment.Cheap flash and bang and all a bit seedy and grubby.Be a great way to learn how to throw matches though

Posted by   on (October 10, 2013, 17:58 GMT)

there must be something in the comment. look what its done for the very average aussies. mind though its not done much for their test batting

Posted by   on (October 10, 2013, 17:26 GMT)

I agree with Strauss comments. IPL must be available to English players. this will make it a really world brand full on international flavours. If Jos Buttler plays for an IPL team I will be gladly to watch the game on TV. It will Definitely helped the English players doing well in the shorter formats in the future.

Posted by Winsome on (October 10, 2013, 17:24 GMT)

Why are foreign players so mealy-mouthed about the IPL? No-one really believes that England will 'fall behind' if they don't play it, it is purely about the English players wanting the same opportunities to earn the big money. Strauss is toeing some sort of stupid party line on behalf of his ex-colleagues.

Posted by yorkshire-86 on (October 10, 2013, 16:20 GMT)

Exactly how many centrally contracted players would get a franchise? Cook Compton Trott Bell Prior certainly not. KP, Morgan yes. Root Bopara maybe but probably not. Buttler and Bairstow - considering every franchise already has FAR FAR FAR too many keepers, no. Of the bowlers, only Swann had a chance - please dont say Anderson he is cannon fodder on subcontinental pitches. Hales Wright and Lumb have a chance but none play Test cricket - in fact of all the players mentioned only KP and Swann play tests and would benefit from an IPL window. Disrupt the entire early summer for the sake of 2 cricketers?

Posted by Chak-De-India-Deux on (October 10, 2013, 16:11 GMT)

I don't know why people make it seem like IPL is aching for foreign players to come and play. It's the other way round. We are happy with our tournament, its your players that you need to ask questions from. If SL players are not paid for a year or WI players don't get paid then yes IPL is an option that they should explore. When these player are 50 and have no money (because their Board did not pay them / or way them well), I don't think any of the 'Test comes First' posters will take them in their house and take care of them. Stop being so moralistic.

Posted by Chak-De-India-Deux on (October 10, 2013, 16:02 GMT)

We don't want any Eng players either or from any other country that does not like IPL.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (October 10, 2013, 12:26 GMT)

Strauss is right . But what if the IPL teams don't want them anyway? Or ,they are'nt just good enough ? Like the Aussies ,SA or even WI stars who are a bang for the big bucks paid.

Posted by AA77 on (October 10, 2013, 11:56 GMT)

'The IPL teams are just anti-England for some reason" ????? this is a ridiculous statement.

KP would be just about any teams first pick batsmen - Hales, Buttler would definitely draw interest. I can't see much interest in the bowlers due to lack of rock star quality .. Flintoff for instance would have also be a first pick for most teams.

Posted by ruester on (October 10, 2013, 11:24 GMT)

I don't hate the IPL but I see it for what it is a domestic competition. I strongly disagree that it prepares Indian cricketers for the longer game. Lets face it Indian test results have been terrible for the last few seasons. It would be great if England and Pakistan players could compete, then I think it would be of more significance. However I would prefer to see English players, play in our own T20 competition, maybe a slot could be made for that instead, without too much disruption to our test series. That would certainly improve revenue for the counties and maybe a large TV deal could also be negotiated, like the IPL and big bash. There is no reason why England could not do this, Indian players could play and actually learn how to play on a seaming surface, which would benefit their batters far more than just playing on low, slow wickets.

Posted by vxttemp on (October 10, 2013, 11:22 GMT)

@ShanTheFanOfSachin: Most of the patriots wants the rest of their country to sacrifise but not them or from their pockets. If a player gets more money, he should go for that. In a case, a player gets injured for the rest of the life, who will take care of him or hist family. I don't think I'll. 2011 WC win and this years champions trophy changed my attitude towards IPL.

Posted by 200ondebut on (October 10, 2013, 11:21 GMT)

It'll never happen with Giles Clarke in charge or unless the IPL season is moved earlier in the year. ECB would be better off re-scheduling and restructuring its own T20 competition to achieve the desired goal of the England players playing with the best players in this format.

Posted by vxttemp on (October 10, 2013, 11:17 GMT)

@@GlobalCricketLover: I even attribute India's 2011 WC success to IPL. Dhoni played so much aganist Murali in nets helped dealing him in the final. How many players like Hanuma Vihari will get a chance to play against Steyn in nets? Now more players will have the experience of playing Naraine, pollard, steyn, morkel, malinga, Johnson and co. Even best scenario for India is, one IPL team buy more Indian Batsmen representing India and the rest of the world best bowlers. That way they will have the experience facing them in nets.

Posted by vxttemp on (October 10, 2013, 11:11 GMT)

IPL team may or may not be able to compete other domestic teams is probably because its top players are spread across 8 - 10 teams in IPL. T&T for instance almost looks like WI team. Even the one Sangakkara was representing in this CLT20 was more like a SL team. Ofourse India is not the winner of all T20 WC. But it is getting a chance to put up a good show and improve bench strength. I also think IPL is one reason why the retirement of Sachin, Ganguly, Rahul and laxman is not showing so much. I know Sachin still plays tests :-):-) Last Champions trophy won by India truly changed my attitude towards IPL.

Posted by vxttemp on (October 10, 2013, 10:58 GMT)

@GlobalCricketLover: Do you seriously follow IPL? I don't follow very regularly but I still see IPL has done so much good than bad intentionally or unintentionally to Indian cricket. None of the IPL teams are doing charity but it is still far better than what it was prior to IPL era. I still believe it is due IPL India performed well at Champions Trophy this year. I'm not saying it is grooming talent but it is giving enough experience/confidence to even unknown Indian players. Indirectly it is giving opportunity to 49 Indian players to face international bowlers/batsmen.

Posted by ShanTheFanOfSachin on (October 10, 2013, 10:54 GMT)

All T20 haters have realized at some point that T20 and IPL isn't going to go away and slowly accepted it, it includes me as well.

IPL WILL stay,unfair on any professional player to give up the option of earning good money.

To all the people who are very patriotic and so concerned about national pride(regardless of nationality) : DOES EVERYONE GIVE UP 5 DAYS LEAVES/SALARY BECAUSE YOU WANT YOUR COUNTRY TO DO WELL AND TEST CRICKET TO DO WELL?

All are proud playing for their country. but they also want to earn money,rightly so.

Posted by   on (October 10, 2013, 10:37 GMT)

Strauss is wrong. IPL teams refuse to pick England players, but its not because of international commitments. Aussie players usually have international duties during the IPL, yet loads of Aussies still get picked. The IPL teams are just anti-England for some reason. Luke Wright has barely played a game in two season, despite not being on international duty. Emgland doesnt need the IPL. Its not like the Indian and Aussie T20 international sides are way ahead of the rest. Since the IPL started, England and Pakistan, have each one the World T20, despite having so few players in the IPL

Posted by Flash_hard27 on (October 10, 2013, 10:30 GMT)

Why is that so many Indians see any criticism of IPL as criticism of India / Indian cricket? As an England fan I am really looking forward to watching our two nations compete again next summer in a test series. But IPL / T20 cricket is just not for me.

Posted by GlobalCricketLover on (October 10, 2013, 10:23 GMT)

@Rohit Bhagchandani, you might want to update yourself that IPL didn't produce a Pollard or a Narine....it only snatched these performers once they knew what they were capable of. FYI, none of the IPL team made it to semis in the first CLT20 when people like Pollard played for their home teams...and be assured, if teams play today with players representing their home teams, the so called powerful IPL teams would still struggle to compete with the rest. and this is coming from an Indian btw. IPL teams have borrowed talent..whereas the rest of them have at least 8-9 home grown talent.

Posted by Navski on (October 10, 2013, 9:51 GMT)

Haha all these insipid comments hating on the IPL. This coming from the same so called test loving English & the ECB who hosted the 20 Million Dollar debacle that was the Stanford Super Series. Apparently that wasn't about the money. Like various people have mentioned already the IPL is played by most other players in the world. It is a shame that we don't have players from Pakistan but I don't think anyone of us have ever complained about the lack of English players in the tournament.

Posted by bythecrin on (October 10, 2013, 9:47 GMT)

People should not forget that we are the only Northern Hemisphere team in Test Cricket, our season is at a different time of year to all the others !

Posted by paapam on (October 10, 2013, 9:39 GMT)

Andrew as always makes sense. IPL, additionally gives the players financial security. ECB should consider this too

Posted by Flash_hard27 on (October 10, 2013, 9:30 GMT)

@IndiaNumeroUno - A little perspective here please, these guys (from all nations) are flown first class all round the world, stay in great hotels and play a game for a living they are not digging uranium or picking coffee beans. Bonded labour! I don't think so.

Posted by shane-oh on (October 10, 2013, 9:22 GMT)

@Rohit Bhagchandani - really? I Must Love The IPL? Turn off your blinkers mate, I don't have to love anything. It's a rubbish competition. Feel free to love it if you want, but seriously, telling me I have to as well? What twisted logic. I have news for you champ - I can and do ignore the IPL, and always will. It's a great tournament for newbies, however, who don't really understand cricket.

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (October 10, 2013, 9:01 GMT)

@hhillbumper: sour grapes?! In case you haven't noticed, IPL has players from all over the world - of foreign boards who allow their players to grow - and not hold them ransom to a national contract... much like bonded labor.

Posted by DingDong420 on (October 10, 2013, 8:52 GMT)

England will always be behind seeing as though the only cricket they recognise is the Ashes.

Posted by Krishnaraj1983 on (October 10, 2013, 8:45 GMT)

Kevin Pietersen said the same thing when he was still playing for England and he was punished...straussy u shud have got the guts to say this when u were the captain of England and not after retirement..ipl started in 2008 for your information..

Posted by Hammond7249 on (October 10, 2013, 8:41 GMT)

Please, not more about this over-hyped rubbish! I think people tend to forget that England have won the t20 World Cup so saying that they are getting left behind is ridiculous. Besides, there are other t20 competitions to play in around the world that don't clash. The Big Bash is actually much more enjoyable to watch anyway. And another point: England has not had a domestic 50 over competition since 2009 yet we have a pretty decent one-day team which has improved drastically over the last few years.

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (October 10, 2013, 8:36 GMT)

Would love to see Carberry Trego Hales Butler Willey Napier in the IPL

Posted by hhillbumper on (October 10, 2013, 8:33 GMT)

frankly why give IPL any thought.England players get paid very well so why risk them learning the IPL way.A collection of egos that can make Maxwell a valued player is not cricket.

The sooner IPL is left to the Indians the better.The way they are going they won't play with anyone else and will take the ball home and play with themselves and good luck to them.

Posted by ssingh89 on (October 10, 2013, 8:09 GMT)

it's not that Pakistan is not playing in the IPL, they are not allowed to play in it And they are No.2 coz of bizarre ranking system. India atleast is in top3 of all format, no other team is.

Posted by CodandChips on (October 10, 2013, 8:08 GMT)

I have no problem with English players playing in IPL,especially if like Alex Hales their first class cricket is going nowhere. It would certainly help our batsmen learn to play spin and our bowlers learn to bowl at the death, which were two of the reasons for our abysmal WT20 campaign in Sri Lanka. However I would not want players like Joe Root, Gary Ballance and Ben Stokes spending too much time there as opposed to playing county cricket as they are still trying to become test match players so need to be playing some championship cricket. I also feel that centrally contracted players don't play enough T20.

Posted by   on (October 10, 2013, 8:06 GMT)

@Mohammad: That's actually not what he was saying at all. He specifically said not playing in the IPL will make them fall in standard in ODIs and T20s if they don't participate. I don't agree with him. England tours India often enough to experience subcontinental conditions.

Posted by Flash_hard27 on (October 10, 2013, 8:05 GMT)

As much as I dislike the T20 and the IPL in particular (the presentation and punditry is appalling on tv, all that "that no ball was sponsored by cola soft drink limited." "Oh that is a towering six brought to you by fast cars PLC" and way too many meaninglessly games. Rubbish)

I realise like Strauss that it is not going to go away and the disproportionate BCCI influence within ICC is going to put more and more emphasis on this format going forward. Test fans like myself have just got to suck it up and accept changes must be made to protect real marque cricket and if that means reshuffling the early season and playing ODI's first, than that is the correct thing to do. The biggest worry is player burnout, cos England players will have even more days of playing rather than less and injures, especially to bowlers, means the quality of everything will continue to decline.

Posted by   on (October 10, 2013, 7:19 GMT)

@Ameer..basically strauss trying to say here that playing in IPL gives them experience in improving their skills in sub-continent conditions. Pakistan doing well bcoz they are used to play in sub-continent conditions.

Posted by   on (October 10, 2013, 7:16 GMT)

No Matter How Much you Ignore IPL at the End, You Have to Love it coz it's not just Good For Money But Increases and Helps in Increasing The Level of Cricket Whether it is Batting or Bowling. IPL has Produced/Resurrect so many cricketing Talents for Eg. Shane Watson, Rohit Sharma, R Ashwin, R Jadeja, Sunil Narine, James Faulkner, Kevon Cooper, Keiron Pollard. IPL is the Main Reason as West Indies are Now Force to Reckon with as Well as INDIA in Limited Overs atleast. So it's Simple, YOU CAN't IGNORE "IPL" & you Shouldn't.

Posted by PrasPunter on (October 10, 2013, 6:41 GMT)

whats with the craze about t20 ? Does it improve your game ? No. Does it swell your bank-balances ? Yes. Lets go for it. All-Along, though a supporter of Aus, i was always under the impression that England has handled the menace of t20 better than Aus, but this statement has made to rethink . Straussy, didn't expect this from an Ashes-winning captain like you !!

Posted by shane-oh on (October 10, 2013, 6:40 GMT)

@DaisinGarvasis - Strauss doesn't work for the ECB, so they can't do squat. In England, people involved in cricket aren't subject to political machinations and potential legal action. Also, the main reason for KPs alienation was his unacceptable conduct in sending insulting texts about the team to the opposition.

Posted by DaisonGarvasis on (October 10, 2013, 5:33 GMT)

Didnt Kevin Pieterson ask the same question last year? And wasnt that one of the main reason for alienating KP? Now what is ECB going to do about Strauss? Nothing??? I thought so....

Posted by   on (October 10, 2013, 4:55 GMT)

They are missing out on the huge cash cow that is the IPL. But he won't say that. Pakistan is currently ranked number two (and has done well in all the T20 Cups) and they haven't been playing in the IPL, either.

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