Champions Trophy 2013 June 14, 2013

Warner's actions 'despicable' - Sutherland

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Cricket Australia's chief executive, James Sutherland, has described David Warner's attack on Joe Root as "a despicable thing" and said Warner was extremely fortunate to still be available for Ashes selection. Sutherland also slammed the wider playing group and team management for the events that unfolded at the weekend, questioning why Warner and a group of Australian players were out drinking in the early hours of Sunday morning.

The usually mild-mannered Sutherland was clearly livid during a press conference on Friday in Brisbane, where he said Warner's public apology in London on Thursday meant little. Sutherland said there could have been no justification for Warner's physical attack on an opposition player and that Warner was bringing "the game, his team and his team-mates down".

"David Warner has done a despicable thing," Sutherland said. "But I also hold the team to account here. There were other people there with him and those that were there need to take responsibility for that, but so does the team as a whole and the team management group as a whole.

"There is no place for violence anywhere and I'm extremely disappointed in that. I'm extremely disappointed in him and I have told him that ... There were certain things that led to this situation that happened, as I understand it, at 2.30 in the morning. There's not a lot of good that happens at 2.30 in the morning in a pub or a nightclub. I believe that the team as a whole and the people who were around him at the time also need to take responsibility for what happened."

As well as Warner and a group of England players, a number of other Australians including Mitchell Marsh, Matthew Wade, Glenn Maxwell, Phillip Hughes and Clint McKay were reported to have been at the Walkabout pub in Birmingham when Warner's punch at Root occurred. Australia's stand-in captain George Bailey said on Wednesday it had been "a minor incident" that had been dealt with in-house.

But Cricket Australia and its Code of Behaviour commissioner Gordon Lewis, a retired County Court judge, took the altercation seriously and at a hearing on Thursday Lewis imposed an A$11,500 fine on Warner and suspended him until the first Ashes Test. Lewis made his decision independently and while Sutherland said Cricket Australia was comfortable with the punishment, he said Warner could count himself fortunate to be available for Ashes selection.

"I think he's very lucky," Sutherland said. "It could have been a lot worse, couldn't it? It should never have got to that and as it stands, yes, he is lucky to be available for selection ... Cricket people know it's going to be very, very hard for David Warner to get selected for the first Test match. He can't play cricket until the first Test match starts.

"I note that overnight he has made comments apologising for what he has done and expressing remorse for his actions. That's all well and good. It counts for a little bit, but not much. What really counts is his actions going forward in the future, and we're watching those very closely."

Warner's public apology came less than a month after he faced the media in Sydney to express his regret at a foul-mouthed Twitter rant at two Australian journalists, which earned him a A$5750 fine. The incident in Birmingham was clearly far more serious and while Sutherland stopped short of declaring that Warner was on a final warning, he said the batsman had been put under no illusions as to the direction his career was heading if he did not change his behaviour.

"There is no excuse for what happened on Saturday night," he said. "I don't care what explanations people might want to put up, there is no place for violence in society and there is no place for Australian cricketers to be finding themselves in that position."

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • POSTED BY markofcaloundra on | June 16, 2013, 2:05 GMT

    Well sorry to log in against the current orthodoxy, but the problems the Australian team faces lay not in a few drinks, poorly worded texts, or a bar scuffle but in the malaise of modern sports rhetoric, uninspired and uninspiring coaching and management, poor selection/selectors and the most important:genetics. Clearly there is a deficiency in class in Australian cricket at the moment, particularly in batting and spin bowling. The brutal reality is that some generations throw up greats others do not. Australian cricket is in a talent drought.All the reports, vision statements in the world cannot create class, cannot re-create god given brilliance.Our batting is currently in a phase made up of journeymen and moderate first class/not test class batsmen eg Rogers, Cowan, Bailley, Til freak/ world class talent like Mark Waugh, D Lehmann, Gilchrist emerge..we will remain ordinary.Axing Inverarity, Howard, Sutherland and Arthur will help too.More on that another time.

  • POSTED BY AhmedEsat on | June 15, 2013, 23:46 GMT

    Watson is right.....If players faced severe penalties for not doing homework, how could it be right to cover up a more serious offence from Warner? Sadly, it boils down to lack of effective and consistent management. I find it increasingly difficult to feel passionate about our performances.

  • POSTED BY Chris_Howard on | June 15, 2013, 12:51 GMT

    I would have thought "despicable" would have been inexcusable and therefore punishable much more severely.

  • POSTED BY liz1558 on | June 15, 2013, 9:51 GMT

    cricket-vid - So, because he pays your wages you represent your employer even down the pub after work? I'm glad I don't work for your boss! Presumably you would be happy for your boss to describe you/your behaviour publicly as despicable? CA have shot themselves in the foot over something that could've stayed private and a matter for internal discipline. Maybe it's different down under, but everywhere else, fires aren't contained by using more gasoline.

  • POSTED BY on | June 15, 2013, 7:47 GMT

    CA should sack themselves for sending the game into disrepute.

    Reports state that three other Australian players at the bar were Phil Hughes, Glenn Maxwell and Matthew Wade .... these were the three principle beneficiaries of the "Homework Affair" ..... two of whom I do not think should have been on the Indian Tour ..... all of whom are CLARKE-MEN!!!

    No we are hearing that if it wasn't for Watson raising a complaint pertaining to the punishment issued to Watson as compared to the Homework Affair.

    Quite apparent that there is no discipline or leadership in the Australian Team .... and it all stems from the BS Management.

  • POSTED BY VVS_Lunchman on | June 15, 2013, 4:38 GMT

    samgannon22, if you want someone to bite, I will. Not that you deserve a response.

    I am not being over-protective of the sport. Whatever happens with the game will be just "the way it goes". All the same, your statement is nonsense. Do you have anything to back it up, or are you just being spiteful due to some personality shortcoming?

    I will agree that cricket - at least in Australia - is probably not what it was due to having to share more and more with other sports, there are plenty of people who still "care", and this 150+year-old game will be around for a lot longer than 10 years.

    Enjoy whatever pastime you indulge in Sam, and find some like-minded souls in another forum.

  • POSTED BY rienzied on | June 15, 2013, 1:35 GMT

    But unlike Watson, Ussy, Pattinson he is part of the purple circle, that is why the light tap on the wrist... Michael Clarke, you are the emperor of a crumbling empire of the past

  • POSTED BY popcorn on | June 15, 2013, 1:12 GMT

    David Warner deserves the punishment. Future candidate for captaincy?Sic.Thiis suspension is good news for the Selectors and Team Australia to win The Ashes.The dependable Chris Rogers who has good opener technique for Test cricket, unlike Warner will get his rightful place along with Ed Cowan, another batsman with good Test match opener technique.

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 23:37 GMT

    Well said Mr Sutherland, I am happy that there are administrators like you in Australia, We the cricket fans in South Asia were getting thoroughly disappointed with the behavior of the Aussie players, they seem to think that every game is an all out war and that winning means everything. I am not surprised about this incident, I expected something worse looking at the the way your players behave on the field. Well done, now get things done even on the playing field. All the best ,your actions have brought some respect for Australia.

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 23:05 GMT

    David Warner in 'DESPICABLE ME 3" coming July 2014.

  • POSTED BY markofcaloundra on | June 16, 2013, 2:05 GMT

    Well sorry to log in against the current orthodoxy, but the problems the Australian team faces lay not in a few drinks, poorly worded texts, or a bar scuffle but in the malaise of modern sports rhetoric, uninspired and uninspiring coaching and management, poor selection/selectors and the most important:genetics. Clearly there is a deficiency in class in Australian cricket at the moment, particularly in batting and spin bowling. The brutal reality is that some generations throw up greats others do not. Australian cricket is in a talent drought.All the reports, vision statements in the world cannot create class, cannot re-create god given brilliance.Our batting is currently in a phase made up of journeymen and moderate first class/not test class batsmen eg Rogers, Cowan, Bailley, Til freak/ world class talent like Mark Waugh, D Lehmann, Gilchrist emerge..we will remain ordinary.Axing Inverarity, Howard, Sutherland and Arthur will help too.More on that another time.

  • POSTED BY AhmedEsat on | June 15, 2013, 23:46 GMT

    Watson is right.....If players faced severe penalties for not doing homework, how could it be right to cover up a more serious offence from Warner? Sadly, it boils down to lack of effective and consistent management. I find it increasingly difficult to feel passionate about our performances.

  • POSTED BY Chris_Howard on | June 15, 2013, 12:51 GMT

    I would have thought "despicable" would have been inexcusable and therefore punishable much more severely.

  • POSTED BY liz1558 on | June 15, 2013, 9:51 GMT

    cricket-vid - So, because he pays your wages you represent your employer even down the pub after work? I'm glad I don't work for your boss! Presumably you would be happy for your boss to describe you/your behaviour publicly as despicable? CA have shot themselves in the foot over something that could've stayed private and a matter for internal discipline. Maybe it's different down under, but everywhere else, fires aren't contained by using more gasoline.

  • POSTED BY on | June 15, 2013, 7:47 GMT

    CA should sack themselves for sending the game into disrepute.

    Reports state that three other Australian players at the bar were Phil Hughes, Glenn Maxwell and Matthew Wade .... these were the three principle beneficiaries of the "Homework Affair" ..... two of whom I do not think should have been on the Indian Tour ..... all of whom are CLARKE-MEN!!!

    No we are hearing that if it wasn't for Watson raising a complaint pertaining to the punishment issued to Watson as compared to the Homework Affair.

    Quite apparent that there is no discipline or leadership in the Australian Team .... and it all stems from the BS Management.

  • POSTED BY VVS_Lunchman on | June 15, 2013, 4:38 GMT

    samgannon22, if you want someone to bite, I will. Not that you deserve a response.

    I am not being over-protective of the sport. Whatever happens with the game will be just "the way it goes". All the same, your statement is nonsense. Do you have anything to back it up, or are you just being spiteful due to some personality shortcoming?

    I will agree that cricket - at least in Australia - is probably not what it was due to having to share more and more with other sports, there are plenty of people who still "care", and this 150+year-old game will be around for a lot longer than 10 years.

    Enjoy whatever pastime you indulge in Sam, and find some like-minded souls in another forum.

  • POSTED BY rienzied on | June 15, 2013, 1:35 GMT

    But unlike Watson, Ussy, Pattinson he is part of the purple circle, that is why the light tap on the wrist... Michael Clarke, you are the emperor of a crumbling empire of the past

  • POSTED BY popcorn on | June 15, 2013, 1:12 GMT

    David Warner deserves the punishment. Future candidate for captaincy?Sic.Thiis suspension is good news for the Selectors and Team Australia to win The Ashes.The dependable Chris Rogers who has good opener technique for Test cricket, unlike Warner will get his rightful place along with Ed Cowan, another batsman with good Test match opener technique.

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 23:37 GMT

    Well said Mr Sutherland, I am happy that there are administrators like you in Australia, We the cricket fans in South Asia were getting thoroughly disappointed with the behavior of the Aussie players, they seem to think that every game is an all out war and that winning means everything. I am not surprised about this incident, I expected something worse looking at the the way your players behave on the field. Well done, now get things done even on the playing field. All the best ,your actions have brought some respect for Australia.

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 23:05 GMT

    David Warner in 'DESPICABLE ME 3" coming July 2014.

  • POSTED BY samgannon22 on | June 14, 2013, 22:27 GMT

    No one in Australia cares about cricket anymore. It will be completely dead as a sport within 10 years.

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 21:50 GMT

    Warner should have been sent home - especially in the light of the homework affair. Unfortunately shows the deep divisions in the team, they cannot win the Ashes with their current coach/management.

  • POSTED BY milepost on | June 14, 2013, 15:24 GMT

    He's a 24 year old guy who has played 19 test matches. His form has been questionable for a while and based on these he is hardly a senior player is he? Give him a break. Credit to England for the way they handled the whole thing - they did so convincingly, swiftly and professionally. It's a mountain out of a molehill and it's probably a blessing for Australia that they can pick a more reliable opener. I think the whole culture of CA is messed up now and they need change.

  • POSTED BY AllanofSouza on | June 14, 2013, 14:36 GMT

    Cricket Australia is handling this real bad. What a bunch of hog wash. On one had the chief executive, James Sutherland say "What a despicable act" and then "I think he is lucky to still be on the team". My friend if you really think and believe it is a despicable act (and by the way IT iS), sent the bloke home where he belongs. Is winning a game so much more important than compromising team discipline?????????? Keeping him still on the team is descipable.

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 14:31 GMT

    Ive never seen such a big fuss over something so minor. Anyone would think the police had to be called to restore order following a fall blown brawl. Far far worse happens every single night in our towns and cities, with the vast majority being told to go home and sober up. What exactly makes this any different?

    If i had a £ for every scuffle I saw in bars and clubs i'd be a very rich man indeed!

  • POSTED BY TheCricketEmpireStrikesBack on | June 14, 2013, 14:05 GMT

    @Rally_Windies and your "I don't get it" post. You are right to be puzzled and I will do my best to explain.

    The media love any controversy, no matter how big or small, since it sells advertising. A small controversy will be inflated as much as possible for the same reason. The disingenuous of any nationality among us will use the situation to promote their own prejudices and agendas. The authorities (in this case the ECB and CA) will do their best to present an appearance of being very, very concerned because that is what they expect that the public expects from them.

    Some may well consider that any sense of perspective will quickly be lost in such a scenario. Others, like myself, consider to be all part of the wonderful hype and drama of the Ashes. Hope this helps.

  • POSTED BY Barnesy4444 on | June 14, 2013, 13:35 GMT

    Symonds didn't punch anyone in the face unprovoked and he got 2 warnings and that was it. Symonds was playing up with Ponting, Hussey, Warne, Gilchrist etc etc in the team, was there a lack of team leadership then? Warner had better straighten up or he will be gone for good.

  • POSTED BY YorkshirePudding on | June 14, 2013, 13:26 GMT

    @whatawicket, I suspect the time line for the events where

    1) Incident happened ealry hours Sunday. 2) England lads report incident in morning team meeting/Breakfast 3) England Management contact Aussies to give them a heads up 4) Both sides investigate, Sunday/Monday, and compare 'notes.' 5) Journalists start asking questions, 6) both sides agree on statements for press, and release. 7) England stay quiet about it with 'we've investigated, and its not our problem' type responses 8) CA start taking action against warner.

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 13:01 GMT

    Is this still going on? Root didn't look to have the slightest bruise on him in our loss against SL.

    Randy OZ: "The rot starts at the top and it starts with Sutherland, he needs to go." It's funny how you seem to switch the "First Man To Be Sacked" between Arthur, Inverarity (did I spell that right?), and Sutherland. Make your mind up, mate!

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 12:49 GMT

    I will tell you what is despicable, the hyperbole surrounding Warner - one player from one team, that is over shadowing some good cricket on the field - eg. Sangakara's brilliant hundred. How many articles have to be written? How many self righteous "experts" and trolls have to analyse and comment on this non event? Is there anything that can be said that hasn't been said 100 times already? Im beginning to think that Cricinfo and cricket fans are more interested in off field controversy and drama then they in actual cricket played on the field. Move on people - Joe Root has!

  • POSTED BY whatawicket on | June 14, 2013, 12:45 GMT

    peter peter peter please get a grip. its nothing to do with the English press. if they had made up a story or made the incident known and made it worse than it was, then perhaps you have a point. who made the story known i am not sure. with it happening on sat/sun it was a few days before it got out so the papers did not report the story till it was out. perhaps if the walkabout manager had called the police, under normal circumstances it could have become a crime. then i would have thought Warner could have been sent home

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 12:41 GMT

    Seems to be a general lack of leadership across the board in the Australian camp. 1) Team management not preventing players from heading out late during a tournament 2) Warner, a senior player, being reckless and setting a bad example for the younger players in the team 3) Bailey, the acting captain, dismissing the incident as nothing major 4) Shane Watson's recent loss of the vice-captaincy and 5) @Jared Hansen, Sutherland himself not reigning in control and himself not accepting any responsibility for not only this incident, but the continuing string of disciplinary and performance issues in this side. Poor Michael Clarke appears to have no support, and seems to be the only thing holding this Australian team together. Surely, the most immediate concern should be to get the leadership structure right to prevent an even steeper decline in this team's fate.

  • POSTED BY flowersintherain on | June 14, 2013, 12:39 GMT

    This also raises questions about the judgment of George Bailey, who dismissed it as a "minor incident". With that attitude, you wonder whether he should be captain.

  • POSTED BY getgopi on | June 14, 2013, 12:13 GMT

    Despicable?! Now that's too much. That's going to the other extreme. Who do these administration guys expect will play their sports? The tooth fairy? These are sportsmen. There's going to be testosterone involved.

  • POSTED BY Frog1963 on | June 14, 2013, 11:56 GMT

    Dear Mr Sutherland. As a long time supporter of the Australian Cricket Team. I ask why, (if as you indicate this behaviour by David Warner, his team mates who are from all reports representing Australia (questionable as to the pride and commitment), coach Mickey Arthur and team management, who all played a role in attempting to hide this supposedly unacceptable incident), no body is in transit to Australia. Time for a total rethink and rebuild. Thankfully Shane Watson pushed this issue, maybe time for a new captain and total rebuild based on respect for the Baggy Green.

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 11:48 GMT

    If the two people involved in the "Incident" apologised and move on very quickly after the incident, why is there so much hype about this days later. Surely there are better things to concentrate on. e.g the Champions Trophy. I think it ridiculous that Warner is getting no match practice leading up to such an important test series. Does CA want to win the Ashes back or not? CA should never let English press or otherwise dictate team selection.

  • POSTED BY Blokker on | June 14, 2013, 11:33 GMT

    Warner act despicable. Sutherland comment hyperbole.

  • POSTED BY whatawicket on | June 14, 2013, 11:10 GMT

    not sure starting at the top is the way to go. Sutherland or the coach did not punch root. my only concern is that the head honcho deems it despicable, why is Warner still on tour

  • POSTED BY Chalky2 on | June 14, 2013, 10:53 GMT

    James Sutherland is totally correct in all he says. A decent man (as I am sure David Warner is too), but all young sportsmen need to know they are in a privileged position and have to earn the right to the considerable salaries/endorsements they receive.If they are allowed to do as they like they'll all end up like Prima Donna Premiership footballers.

  • POSTED BY cricket-vid on | June 14, 2013, 10:47 GMT

    liz1558 if I am out representing my employer and throw a punch at someone - they too wouldn't be pleased with me. One of the sacrifices for representing your country is that you also represent them off the field. Sorry - if you aren't made of the right character then you shouldn't be picked - just asked those who missed out in the Australia team's of the mid 80's. And those types of players who we stuck with that lead us out of the doldrums - Marsh, S.Waugh, Boon etc It's not too late for him - just ask Ricky Ponting.

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | June 14, 2013, 10:39 GMT

    The rot starts at the top and it starts with Sutherland, he needs to go.

  • POSTED BY ToneMalone on | June 14, 2013, 10:36 GMT

    Sutherland is right to condemn Warner's actions, but his comments on the broader player group and team management also leave him on thin ice. I have a few open questions for the CEO:

    1. Does the Australian team have clear, black-and-white rules re drinking on tour and acceptable times by which to be back at the hotel? 2. If so, shouldn't all the Australian cricketers involved also face formal disciplinary action? 3. If not - or it's still a grey area - shouldn't you, as the CEO of Cricket Australia, have ensured clearer rules were agreed between you and team management?

    Sutherland has been at the head of Cricket Australia for 12 years. This is not a new issue he couldn't have anticipated, nor a minor one.

    It never reflects well on a CEO to blame his team managers, without also admitting his/her own failings in averting the problem.

  • POSTED BY HaddockinOz on | June 14, 2013, 10:35 GMT

    Lets face it chaps, Australian cricket is in a total mess. The entire structure from top to bottom requires massive scrutiny and the fundamental issues addressing. I fear that things are going to get much worse before they can start to improve. There is a real lack of quality players available at present, and some that are playing are very lucky they were not playing 15years ago, or would not even be in a state 2nd XI! I really did not see this rapid deterioration in Australian cricket coming, and I hope this slide into mediocrity can be resolved ASAP especially with back to back Ashes series coming up.

  • POSTED BY G-Wyll on | June 14, 2013, 10:31 GMT

    Kiwis point of view - Nice work James Sutherland. Lets be honest, Oz cricket is awful at the moment. Warner has a odi average lower than 30 and he's throwing swings at one of the best new batsmen on the planet? Whatever Root said, it's just dumb late-night banter. To get physical when your career is based on behaving like a professional cricketer is just a waste. Give him one last chance to sort himself out for the Ashes, and if he over-twitters - start looking for the next Ponting in grade cricket. Players these days don't seem to understand that they're not just competing against other international teams - they're competing with a rich history of tradition that stretches for 100s of years. Would Sachin throw a punch? If they want to be the best, they have to focus on the job. Warners not good enough to justify his mouth, take a look at Amla for example. Brilliant, humble, and vaccuming up runs like crazy in a form of cricket that technically isn't his best form. Amazing.

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 10:23 GMT

    set an example by Mr. Sutherland

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 10:21 GMT

    I'd like to see Sutherland and HIS job performance put under scrutiny. This is one of the only things he's made a stink about in his 11 years of the job, watching a slow decline underneath him unfold.

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    Why don't they get special mental conditioning coaches or psycho therapy sessions? Is that a big deal. The amount of pressure these guys go through on field is high! They are good players and we know they aren't there in the OZ playing XI just cos they were good once upon a time they need some professional help.. I also sense the Australians are highly insecure with the ever changing team sheet. Too many options are being considered and everyone is worried about their place in the playing 11. Pity that the OZs should suffer like this. But this can be a lesson and people learn from failures better than successes.!

  • POSTED BY danjos devils on | June 14, 2013, 10:06 GMT

    Aussie Cricket Chief Sutherland is 'spot on' with his comments on Warner's behaviour in England. There surely is no place for violence anywhere. I somehow thought that Warner was a nice fellow with a lot to offer both by way of cricketing ability and friendship. Unfortunately, he seems to be going through a bad patch and the recent misbehaviour is a result of his failure with the bat. But he is still in demand to play for Australia which is clear in the way that he will be considered for the Tests against England. I hope that Warner turns around after the warning and apology and Sutherland will be able to give him another chance to come back to his energetic cricket playing days.

  • POSTED BY ReluctantBlackCapsFan on | June 14, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    Good on him for making a stand, too many show ponies will lead the sport further into the fiasco that is international football, "people too good for the game"

  • POSTED BY liz1558 on | June 14, 2013, 9:57 GMT

    Give the guy a break - it's a strange expectation that sportsmen should be ambassadors for their countries when they are plucked out of obscurity for their sporting prowess alone, as was the case with Warner. He apologised; what more can he do? Anyhow, it's important that he plays in the Ashes just to help Swann break Laker's Ashes records.

  • POSTED BY Beertjie on | June 14, 2013, 9:49 GMT

    Agree with you@ajaym55 on (June 14, 2013, 9:13 GMT) that "A rap on the knuckle behind closed doors is meaningless." I am not questioning the punishment which I believe is fitting. However there are other dimensions to this. Agree@Rally_Windies on (June 14, 2013, 3:00 GMT) about the collective responsibility. Well, Clint McKay was there and like a good bouncer he is certainly foremost among "those that were there [who] need[ed] to take responsibility for that incident." Spot on@ Jayzuz on (June 14, 2013, 4:03 GMT).

  • POSTED BY Smith87 on | June 14, 2013, 9:34 GMT

    It's time for Mr Sutherland to go away.

  • POSTED BY Jaffa79 on | June 14, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    I think all of the Aussie players present at the bar should have been sent away to complete a report on why this incident happened!

  • POSTED BY ajaym55 on | June 14, 2013, 9:13 GMT

    @ThirteenthMan. If CA had kept quiet, it would show they condone and support Warner's action. Sometimes a public dressing down is the best way to tell all parties where you stand. A rap on the knuckle behind closed doors is meaningless.

  • POSTED BY HawK89 on | June 14, 2013, 9:10 GMT

    If Australia had "batsmen" to replace him, then he wouldn't be playing in The Ashes. As far as I'm concerned, Australia already lost the ashes by showing up with that sorry looking test squad of theirs. Clarke, Watson, Warner and Siddle have to pull off some miracles if they think they have a chance on winning.

  • POSTED BY Governor on | June 14, 2013, 9:03 GMT

    Do people realise that during the Argus review James Sutherland's position was not scrutinised at all. Is not that funny?

    We have a CEO who has oversaw the slow downhill decline of our test match fortunes since 2002.

    How many test matches has James Sutherland played?

  • POSTED BY JBish on | June 14, 2013, 8:59 GMT

    clever man this mr Sutherland , his obviously laying the foundation to fire who needs to be fired in the very near future , the name Mickey Arthur comes to mind

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 8:29 GMT

    Warner should've been an English footballer. He is much better suited to football.

  • POSTED BY ThirteenthMan on | June 14, 2013, 8:22 GMT

    Time for a new Chief Executive. Whatever the wrong of Warner's action, the CE should have more sense than to say that publicly. Clearly he is not suitable.

  • POSTED BY ArnieRoss on | June 14, 2013, 8:06 GMT

    If Warner can't play cricket until the first Test match starts, and it's going to be very, very hard for him to get selected - why is he still in the squad? Is the batting line-up doing so well that we can afford a passenger? I don't think so...

  • POSTED BY Narkovian on | June 14, 2013, 7:55 GMT

    He's a real bad boy. reminds me of a certain other not so long retired AUS playe, whose antics were similar. But please, please let him play in the 1st Test. A walking Test wicket. Anderson will get him out in first spell... along with Hughes.

  • POSTED BY PrasPunter on | June 14, 2013, 7:51 GMT

    @VillageBlackSmith, absolutely - had we done this at our work-places, for sure we would have been shown the door almost without hesitation. One can as well argue that he did it off the field, but he is in town for a reason - to represent Aus - and he is very much on duty. For sure, he should have been sent home. A civilized world doesn't have a place for this sort of boorish behavior . I am an Aus follower and what this guy has done is to let down millions of fans and followers like me , his team and what not, he has distracted the team that has mountains to climb. He just does not belong there.

  • POSTED BY KeithMillersHair on | June 14, 2013, 7:45 GMT

    Why were ANY of them - Australia or England - at a pub at 2.30am in the morning in the middle of a international tournament??! I love a beer as much as the next man, and I go out that late reasonably often, but I know that it effects my performance and I don't do it if have important stuff on in the next couple of days. These guys are paid a huge amount to do a job millions dream of. It is not like the more or less amateur days of not so long ago. How hard is it? If you're on tour or in the middle of a tournament then don't go out getting smashed. I don't care if it is legal or 'blowing of steam', its stupid. And its not like they were indulging a one-time-only opportunity to attend an incredible party or anything... they were at the Walkabout Pub in Birmingham - surely one of the most dire bars in the world! I'd suspend them all for their choice of pub alone!

  • POSTED BY VillageBlacksmith on | June 14, 2013, 7:34 GMT

    @jayzuz... ''after the team management strips all final vestiges of joy from the team.'' So punching the opposition is all part of the ''joy'' in the team?? And the team management are wrong to take that away?? Fraid not my old china, violence (or threatening violence) is not on in society, ask anyone who has been attacked or threatened. If it happened in the workplace it would be instant dismissal and it would rightly become a police matter. The workplace HR dept wd not share your ''joy'' view. warner is lucky, he obv cannot control himself and is a liability.. he needs help before he does it again, and history suggests he will..

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 7:18 GMT

    What's with the multiples of 5750?

  • POSTED BY ygkd on | June 14, 2013, 7:17 GMT

    An obsession with correct player behaviour has not led to this. The obsession with correct player behaviour stems from player behaviour being far too lax. However, the point we must remember is that more should have been done a long, long time ago. The attempt to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted is doomed to irrelevance. That is why it looks like an obsession. You cannot turn a blind eye for years and then bring in a tough new stance without it suddenly looking a tad obsessive. And that is also why it doesn't work. Yet, that doesn't mean we should continue to ignore the problem. Ignoring the problem is what caused this continuing mess. The fact is, the stable door has been wonky for years and nobody much bothered to fix it.

  • POSTED BY dunger.bob on | June 14, 2013, 7:09 GMT

    I think they've done the right thing and the suspension is about right. @ Rally_Windies: While I personally agree with your view, unfortunately that sort of thing will only get you into deep, deep strife in 2013. This is the age of Big Brother and WE are BB. Every mobile phone is a potential nail in your career if you get even slightly out of line and some jerk decides to make a few bucks by selling some snaps to the press or paparazzi. ... in Aus. we are particularly sensitive to this kind of publicity because of our reputation as the "bad boys" of cricket. .. It's not such an issue now since we are seen as such a crap team, but even a few years ago it seemed as though everyone saw us as total Neanderthals. .... a player getting involved in a bar fight, no matter how innocuous, is not the sort of news CA wants on the front page of the paper. .hence the heavy response. .. I know boys will be boys, just not these boys. . They're not playing for some club side on the week-end after all

  • POSTED BY Patchmaster on | June 14, 2013, 6:57 GMT

    WHy was the ENG team at the pub at 2.30am - never mind the AUS team. Maybe with a bit more sleep they might have beaten SL..............

  • POSTED BY Clyde on | June 14, 2013, 6:57 GMT

    If the fact is that a punch was thrown - and this is not denied - what else can Sutherland say? I am pleased with what he said and the way, and pleased that what he said has been reported by the trusty Cricinfo (let's not forget). An apology is nowhere near enough, and I think this is a very good point of Sutherland's. Violence normally requires concerted anger-management and it takes time. The best method of anger-management for Warner to is to attack the ball and not anything else, if cricket is his calling. He is being shown this way out. I estimate that he could redeem himself in about a year, nearly of it in the nets and not on fields.

  • POSTED BY hraghava on | June 14, 2013, 6:33 GMT

    Warner's also the Australian team's sledger-in-chief, ready for an on field verbal scrap (causing the send-off he got in the 4 test against India). He needs to cool it for 4 good reasons: 1. he looks ridiculously unsubtle and boorish 2. it has proven totally ineffective 3. he will get it back with interest (just try it with Virat Kohli) 4. he's not performing. No doubt on the talent and entertainment potential - but he absolutely needs to rein it in and focus. Am an Indian fan, but have watched the Ashes since 2005 as a passionate neutral, and hope the Australians will deliver a strong performance despite their challenges.

  • POSTED BY ygkd on | June 14, 2013, 6:26 GMT

    In this country, you are allowed to legally drink alcohol in bars at 18 years of age, by which stage some at least are capable of acting like grown-ups. Let us remember, though, that the 26 year old is not an immature 18. Or at least, he shouldn't act as if he is.

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 5:54 GMT

    I find it hard enough to believe any of them were there, but one name surely stands out amongst that lot, other than Warner, and that is one Mitch Marsh. After all the problems he has had surely management should know better than to have him out and about at all hours of the night. Away from cricket, fine, do what you want but their should be a few more ground rules on tours like this. Sutherland may be livid but he oversees the whole mess and hires the people who in turn manage the touring squad etc. He also needs to go and have a sit in the room of mirrors and have a long hard look at himself.

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 4:30 GMT

    CA will not tolerate this sort of behaviour. Rightly so because it is not within the spirit of the game. You don't go abusing journalists and punching opposition players just because they write something in the press or wear a fake beard. Warner probably has some anger management problems and CA should tell him to seek counselling.

  • POSTED BY SeanB on | June 14, 2013, 4:12 GMT

    Warner should be dropped purely based on form. He averages less than 30 as an opener and that is not good enough. He is a good fielder, but for someone who does not bowl, batting average should be in the 40s and he is way below that.

  • POSTED BY Jayzuz on | June 14, 2013, 4:03 GMT

    Physical attack? Give it a rest already! The eye witness accounts tell a very different story. The appropriate actions have been taken and Warner realises his mistake. Move on. Players from BOTH teams were out drinking. Are we going to condemn all of them, if indeed this is part of the problem? Or are we going to say that only the Australian team is wrong for being out? Are we going to say Warner has a drinking problem when this is the first report of any kind involving him drinking? Or is he just going through a tough time with the Twitter thing and bad form, and hasn't handled it well? All this will pass under the bridge - especially after the team management strips all final vestiges of joy from the team. Expect even more daily questionnaires and homework to monitor every conceivable psycho-physiological component of every player's very being. Ironic that an obsession with injuries has seen a proliferation of them, and an obsession with correct player behaviour has led to this.

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 3:04 GMT

    This is the kind of stance the whole team and management need to take if they are to get back to its glory days. This kind of attitude isn't needed anywhere and I do agree he is lucky to be available for the Ashes. The fact that Root didn't press charges made Warner very lucky. The worst thing is that Warner has quite a history of bad behaviour and that too in public. I do want him to succeed but not if he keeps this up. Hopefully he doesn't end up as Andrew Symonds did or Jesse Ryder.

  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | June 14, 2013, 3:00 GMT

    I don't get it...

    at a pub.. at 2:30 am .... the pub management was ok with it.. the police saw nothing wrong .... Root and Warner settled it without further incident ....

    I think Cricket Austrailia is overstepping ......

    What next ? life bans for J- walking ? Or a 2 year suspension for a parking ticket ? 5 year ban for not filing your taxes?

    Was this an on-feild incident ? Were they at a press conference ? ..

    BOTH MEN WERE AT A PUB @ 2:30 am ...

    some banter, followed by a single punch, an apology followed by a round of drinks is what is expected at a Bar between rivals @ 2:30 am ....

    If you have to DO something ... the entire team should be fined , and that goes for both England and Australia ...

    there is always collective responsibility when drinking with a short tempered pal ...

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  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | June 14, 2013, 3:00 GMT

    I don't get it...

    at a pub.. at 2:30 am .... the pub management was ok with it.. the police saw nothing wrong .... Root and Warner settled it without further incident ....

    I think Cricket Austrailia is overstepping ......

    What next ? life bans for J- walking ? Or a 2 year suspension for a parking ticket ? 5 year ban for not filing your taxes?

    Was this an on-feild incident ? Were they at a press conference ? ..

    BOTH MEN WERE AT A PUB @ 2:30 am ...

    some banter, followed by a single punch, an apology followed by a round of drinks is what is expected at a Bar between rivals @ 2:30 am ....

    If you have to DO something ... the entire team should be fined , and that goes for both England and Australia ...

    there is always collective responsibility when drinking with a short tempered pal ...

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 3:04 GMT

    This is the kind of stance the whole team and management need to take if they are to get back to its glory days. This kind of attitude isn't needed anywhere and I do agree he is lucky to be available for the Ashes. The fact that Root didn't press charges made Warner very lucky. The worst thing is that Warner has quite a history of bad behaviour and that too in public. I do want him to succeed but not if he keeps this up. Hopefully he doesn't end up as Andrew Symonds did or Jesse Ryder.

  • POSTED BY Jayzuz on | June 14, 2013, 4:03 GMT

    Physical attack? Give it a rest already! The eye witness accounts tell a very different story. The appropriate actions have been taken and Warner realises his mistake. Move on. Players from BOTH teams were out drinking. Are we going to condemn all of them, if indeed this is part of the problem? Or are we going to say that only the Australian team is wrong for being out? Are we going to say Warner has a drinking problem when this is the first report of any kind involving him drinking? Or is he just going through a tough time with the Twitter thing and bad form, and hasn't handled it well? All this will pass under the bridge - especially after the team management strips all final vestiges of joy from the team. Expect even more daily questionnaires and homework to monitor every conceivable psycho-physiological component of every player's very being. Ironic that an obsession with injuries has seen a proliferation of them, and an obsession with correct player behaviour has led to this.

  • POSTED BY SeanB on | June 14, 2013, 4:12 GMT

    Warner should be dropped purely based on form. He averages less than 30 as an opener and that is not good enough. He is a good fielder, but for someone who does not bowl, batting average should be in the 40s and he is way below that.

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 4:30 GMT

    CA will not tolerate this sort of behaviour. Rightly so because it is not within the spirit of the game. You don't go abusing journalists and punching opposition players just because they write something in the press or wear a fake beard. Warner probably has some anger management problems and CA should tell him to seek counselling.

  • POSTED BY on | June 14, 2013, 5:54 GMT

    I find it hard enough to believe any of them were there, but one name surely stands out amongst that lot, other than Warner, and that is one Mitch Marsh. After all the problems he has had surely management should know better than to have him out and about at all hours of the night. Away from cricket, fine, do what you want but their should be a few more ground rules on tours like this. Sutherland may be livid but he oversees the whole mess and hires the people who in turn manage the touring squad etc. He also needs to go and have a sit in the room of mirrors and have a long hard look at himself.

  • POSTED BY ygkd on | June 14, 2013, 6:26 GMT

    In this country, you are allowed to legally drink alcohol in bars at 18 years of age, by which stage some at least are capable of acting like grown-ups. Let us remember, though, that the 26 year old is not an immature 18. Or at least, he shouldn't act as if he is.

  • POSTED BY hraghava on | June 14, 2013, 6:33 GMT

    Warner's also the Australian team's sledger-in-chief, ready for an on field verbal scrap (causing the send-off he got in the 4 test against India). He needs to cool it for 4 good reasons: 1. he looks ridiculously unsubtle and boorish 2. it has proven totally ineffective 3. he will get it back with interest (just try it with Virat Kohli) 4. he's not performing. No doubt on the talent and entertainment potential - but he absolutely needs to rein it in and focus. Am an Indian fan, but have watched the Ashes since 2005 as a passionate neutral, and hope the Australians will deliver a strong performance despite their challenges.

  • POSTED BY Clyde on | June 14, 2013, 6:57 GMT

    If the fact is that a punch was thrown - and this is not denied - what else can Sutherland say? I am pleased with what he said and the way, and pleased that what he said has been reported by the trusty Cricinfo (let's not forget). An apology is nowhere near enough, and I think this is a very good point of Sutherland's. Violence normally requires concerted anger-management and it takes time. The best method of anger-management for Warner to is to attack the ball and not anything else, if cricket is his calling. He is being shown this way out. I estimate that he could redeem himself in about a year, nearly of it in the nets and not on fields.

  • POSTED BY Patchmaster on | June 14, 2013, 6:57 GMT

    WHy was the ENG team at the pub at 2.30am - never mind the AUS team. Maybe with a bit more sleep they might have beaten SL..............