England in India 2012-13 October 27, 2012

Turning tracks for England Tests not unfair - Kohli

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In wake of the criticism leveled at India over the absence of spinners in the A-team squad that will play England in a warm-up game, batsman Virat Kohli has said there would be nothing unfair with making England play on spinner-friendly pitches in the Tests. On India's tour to England and Australia last year, he said, the conditions during the warm-up games and those in the Test matches were vastly different, which was not 'fair' to India.

"Why not [turning pitches]? We were given flattest of tracks during practice matches in England and Australia and then suddenly presented with a green-top during the Tests," Kohli told PTI. "During practice matches, we would face those 120kmph bowlers … If they [England and Australia] wanted to be fair to us, they could have provided us with same kind of tracks for practice matches, like what were used in Tests.

"Especially, when they knew that visiting teams get very less time to practice. Now they would be playing on turning tracks and definitely would know where they stand."

The tour of India marks the return of Kevin Pietersen to the England side, after a 10-week stand-off with the team. Kohli said he will be under a lot of pressure to perform, especially taking into account England's traditional struggles against spin.

"There will be huge pressure on KP as he has been playing in India for quite some time and considered to be a good batsman against spin.

"You may say that the senior England cricketers have an understanding of these conditions but let me tell you, it's not that easy. You might feel they would like to hit spinners but end up doing exactly opposite."

He pointed to England's tour of the UAE, where they were whitewashed 3-0 by Pakistan in the Tests, as an example of England's continuing issues with spin. "That particular series, there wasn't much turn on offer but England couldn't negotiate one quality spinner [Saeed Ajmal]; they lost the battle in their heads."

Kohli also defended his team-mates, saying the talk about them being poor against short-pitched bowling did not make sense. "I have never really understood this theory. Are people like Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag poor players of short-pitched bowling? Show me how many Indian players were out to short-pitched deliveries in Australia?

"No batsman in world cricket is comfortable against a good bouncer. If you get a good bouncer, give credit to the bowler rather than finding chinks in batsman's armoury."

Similarly, he backed MS Dhoni and Duncan Fletcher, saying any criticism directed at them for India's recent poor overseas form was unfounded. "Under him [Dhoni], we have won the World Cup, been No. 1 in Tests ... He has also encouraged the juniors."

"Duncan is also a thorough professional. He would quietly stand in one corner and observe. If he needs to say something, he would come up and give a suggestion. He believes international cricketers know their jobs. If we have lost eight Test matches, blame us and not the coach."

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  • POSTED BY blastu on | October 30, 2012, 13:58 GMT

    @KiwiRocker- Ho really kiwi speaks about india. Come on man don't worry about indian team better worry about kiwi team. Kiwi got whitewashed against bangladesh what a shame .ICC pls review the status of NZ team far below the bangala team. Lol

  • POSTED BY g.narsimha on | October 30, 2012, 10:52 GMT

    avacantslip- how long u celebrat those loses, u r team was also white washed in AUS IN 2010, we were bad during those tours , dont waste u r energy on history if we goes back in erlier tours our team did reasonably well in those plces , more over ENG beat us in thier own backyard not out side thier comfort zone instead of always dreaming IND loses pl concentrat on u r team SA is waiting .

  • POSTED BY A.Ak on | October 30, 2012, 9:49 GMT

    I like this guy. Every words has a point. No one can deny that.

  • POSTED BY Valavan on | October 30, 2012, 9:23 GMT

    @VacantSlip,@Shan, you both wasting time here, say your opinion once, anyway these guys refuse to accept the facts as it is, these guys worry about England more than us, thats just laughable, now they can speak ofcourse because its Vs India, they have been chasing England since they lost last year, looking for something to loath about. Coming to Topic, I welcome kohli to give rank turners, but his blushing on greentops in England is mere fantasy as he never played any test there. All the more producing turner tracks will give 4 - 0 for India, is that possible, comon guys, then pick 4 spinners instead, Indian Fans reflect their team, dhoni, gambhir,kohli and so on. cricinfo please publish.

  • POSTED BY A_Vacant_Slip on | October 30, 2012, 8:56 GMT

    @Agila on (October 28 2012, 14:19 PM GMT) Did you really write "India lost then (in England), coz they "did not" play to their potential"! Do you really believe that!?!? SO what about the 4-0 in Australia that happened 6 month later, eh? was that India "not playing to their potential" as well? India lose 8 consecutive Test match because they "did not play to potential"!? Laughable. So, according to you when a team loses it is because they "did not play to their potential" - not because other team was better. Top quality comedy boy material!!! @Agila - keep going with these wonderfully amusing excuse. Very very funny to read.

  • POSTED BY on | October 30, 2012, 8:34 GMT

    Playing Spin is an art like Playing Short Stuff.If one can become an artist of two he will be called a legend.It is Foolish to say that India is Taking Advantage in providing Rank Turners.For any subcontinent country for this matter can only and will only provide these Wickets.The Reason is we are more accustomed playing it and Are the Experts in playing Spin.Accept the fact that there are 2 things namely Spin and pace when it comes to bowling.So it will be Obvious that there will be Spinning wickets like seaming wickets.If you can't accept it You are just doing KG in Cricket.... Peace....All the best India!!!.If they can Bounce us out,We can make their Heads Spin. -- Vettipayyan-- Fearing the fast ball is understandable, as its human defence, but fearing against Spin actually shows the opponent lacks brains cos Spin is intelligence. ~Awesome~

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 30, 2012, 8:29 GMT

    Please kindly publish this time , nothing untrue or of offence and touches on issues others haven't TBH Kohli (as brilliant he is) comes across as an excuse maker here.I agree that India should prepare the best pitches to suit their side but just one thing which no one seems to have noticed from what Kohli says. He says about Eng preparing 2 types of pitches - flat ones for the practice games and green tops for the tests. Now "green tops" is debatable but say they were all green tops/difficult pitches-how did England manage to score runs on them?And if you're saying it's because we're more use to them then surely the reverse is true when we have probs in SC.Anyway what no one seems to notice is that Kohli did not play a solitary match in England so how can he judge how difficult the pitches were to bat on? BTW How come Kohli is actually being hailed for speaking his mind and when it's an England player just speaking positively and not giving it the big one he is being called arrogant?

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 30, 2012, 8:28 GMT

    Dear ESPN - Please could you kindly publish the below comment this time. There is nothing untrue or of offence to any poster on here and it contains points which no one else has touched upon. I've resubmitted my original comments which I hope will be published this time. But 2 things 1- As others pointed out - India hardly covered themselves in glory in warm up matches on what Kohli describes Flat Tracks and I was going to say (and I don't think anyone else has mentioned this so far) that I didn't recall Kohli playing in any of the tests , but then I thought he must have to say such things as it sounded like he was talking from experience.So I checked the scorecards and sure enough HE DID NOT PLAY ONE SINGLE TEST IN ENGLAND , so I thought well he must at least have played at least one of the warm up games to know how the flat tracks they were given felt to bat on and rather comically HE PLAYED NEITHER OF THE WARM UP GAMES EITHER. - GENIUS!

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | October 30, 2012, 3:59 GMT

    @SamRoy, "worser than any first class tail ender in India against spin", now, now, calm down will ya? I can make some really tall claims too, like "except Tendulkar, Indian batsmen are worse than any first class tail-ender in England against pace". Actually, that isn't as bad as your statement, our batsmen's weaknesses against spin notwithstanding. Raina is probably among the worst test batsmen around. Sehwag and Gambhir have lost it, while, whisper, Tendulkar seems to be past it. You can talk low of our batting if you still had the likes of Dravid and Laxman. Now that you don't, perhaps, our batting is not worse than your's. Bowling? well, the less said about Indian bowlers the better. Cook was decent against spin in the UAE - I believe he scored our highest score in that series. Prior is pretty good too. Bell, Bairstow, and whoever we pick to partner Cook at the top of the order will struggle.

  • POSTED BY CricketFanIndUS on | October 30, 2012, 2:56 GMT

    India got ambushed in the 2nd innings of the second test in the last series in England with short balls of uneven bounce with the new ball. Why can't we return the favor, as they are hard for anyone to play those? Our pace bowlers will need to use the uneven bounce better, also with variantion of the force with which you hit the pitch (deck) and speed (especially while touring overseas where there is much more scope for this). It is tougher for pce bowlers to do well in India. BTW, it was one of the poorest test innings from India, they literally ran out of gas and approached it so poorly.

  • POSTED BY blastu on | October 30, 2012, 13:58 GMT

    @KiwiRocker- Ho really kiwi speaks about india. Come on man don't worry about indian team better worry about kiwi team. Kiwi got whitewashed against bangladesh what a shame .ICC pls review the status of NZ team far below the bangala team. Lol

  • POSTED BY g.narsimha on | October 30, 2012, 10:52 GMT

    avacantslip- how long u celebrat those loses, u r team was also white washed in AUS IN 2010, we were bad during those tours , dont waste u r energy on history if we goes back in erlier tours our team did reasonably well in those plces , more over ENG beat us in thier own backyard not out side thier comfort zone instead of always dreaming IND loses pl concentrat on u r team SA is waiting .

  • POSTED BY A.Ak on | October 30, 2012, 9:49 GMT

    I like this guy. Every words has a point. No one can deny that.

  • POSTED BY Valavan on | October 30, 2012, 9:23 GMT

    @VacantSlip,@Shan, you both wasting time here, say your opinion once, anyway these guys refuse to accept the facts as it is, these guys worry about England more than us, thats just laughable, now they can speak ofcourse because its Vs India, they have been chasing England since they lost last year, looking for something to loath about. Coming to Topic, I welcome kohli to give rank turners, but his blushing on greentops in England is mere fantasy as he never played any test there. All the more producing turner tracks will give 4 - 0 for India, is that possible, comon guys, then pick 4 spinners instead, Indian Fans reflect their team, dhoni, gambhir,kohli and so on. cricinfo please publish.

  • POSTED BY A_Vacant_Slip on | October 30, 2012, 8:56 GMT

    @Agila on (October 28 2012, 14:19 PM GMT) Did you really write "India lost then (in England), coz they "did not" play to their potential"! Do you really believe that!?!? SO what about the 4-0 in Australia that happened 6 month later, eh? was that India "not playing to their potential" as well? India lose 8 consecutive Test match because they "did not play to potential"!? Laughable. So, according to you when a team loses it is because they "did not play to their potential" - not because other team was better. Top quality comedy boy material!!! @Agila - keep going with these wonderfully amusing excuse. Very very funny to read.

  • POSTED BY on | October 30, 2012, 8:34 GMT

    Playing Spin is an art like Playing Short Stuff.If one can become an artist of two he will be called a legend.It is Foolish to say that India is Taking Advantage in providing Rank Turners.For any subcontinent country for this matter can only and will only provide these Wickets.The Reason is we are more accustomed playing it and Are the Experts in playing Spin.Accept the fact that there are 2 things namely Spin and pace when it comes to bowling.So it will be Obvious that there will be Spinning wickets like seaming wickets.If you can't accept it You are just doing KG in Cricket.... Peace....All the best India!!!.If they can Bounce us out,We can make their Heads Spin. -- Vettipayyan-- Fearing the fast ball is understandable, as its human defence, but fearing against Spin actually shows the opponent lacks brains cos Spin is intelligence. ~Awesome~

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 30, 2012, 8:29 GMT

    Please kindly publish this time , nothing untrue or of offence and touches on issues others haven't TBH Kohli (as brilliant he is) comes across as an excuse maker here.I agree that India should prepare the best pitches to suit their side but just one thing which no one seems to have noticed from what Kohli says. He says about Eng preparing 2 types of pitches - flat ones for the practice games and green tops for the tests. Now "green tops" is debatable but say they were all green tops/difficult pitches-how did England manage to score runs on them?And if you're saying it's because we're more use to them then surely the reverse is true when we have probs in SC.Anyway what no one seems to notice is that Kohli did not play a solitary match in England so how can he judge how difficult the pitches were to bat on? BTW How come Kohli is actually being hailed for speaking his mind and when it's an England player just speaking positively and not giving it the big one he is being called arrogant?

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 30, 2012, 8:28 GMT

    Dear ESPN - Please could you kindly publish the below comment this time. There is nothing untrue or of offence to any poster on here and it contains points which no one else has touched upon. I've resubmitted my original comments which I hope will be published this time. But 2 things 1- As others pointed out - India hardly covered themselves in glory in warm up matches on what Kohli describes Flat Tracks and I was going to say (and I don't think anyone else has mentioned this so far) that I didn't recall Kohli playing in any of the tests , but then I thought he must have to say such things as it sounded like he was talking from experience.So I checked the scorecards and sure enough HE DID NOT PLAY ONE SINGLE TEST IN ENGLAND , so I thought well he must at least have played at least one of the warm up games to know how the flat tracks they were given felt to bat on and rather comically HE PLAYED NEITHER OF THE WARM UP GAMES EITHER. - GENIUS!

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | October 30, 2012, 3:59 GMT

    @SamRoy, "worser than any first class tail ender in India against spin", now, now, calm down will ya? I can make some really tall claims too, like "except Tendulkar, Indian batsmen are worse than any first class tail-ender in England against pace". Actually, that isn't as bad as your statement, our batsmen's weaknesses against spin notwithstanding. Raina is probably among the worst test batsmen around. Sehwag and Gambhir have lost it, while, whisper, Tendulkar seems to be past it. You can talk low of our batting if you still had the likes of Dravid and Laxman. Now that you don't, perhaps, our batting is not worse than your's. Bowling? well, the less said about Indian bowlers the better. Cook was decent against spin in the UAE - I believe he scored our highest score in that series. Prior is pretty good too. Bell, Bairstow, and whoever we pick to partner Cook at the top of the order will struggle.

  • POSTED BY CricketFanIndUS on | October 30, 2012, 2:56 GMT

    India got ambushed in the 2nd innings of the second test in the last series in England with short balls of uneven bounce with the new ball. Why can't we return the favor, as they are hard for anyone to play those? Our pace bowlers will need to use the uneven bounce better, also with variantion of the force with which you hit the pitch (deck) and speed (especially while touring overseas where there is much more scope for this). It is tougher for pce bowlers to do well in India. BTW, it was one of the poorest test innings from India, they literally ran out of gas and approached it so poorly.

  • POSTED BY on | October 29, 2012, 19:25 GMT

    good........................

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 29, 2012, 19:08 GMT

    @Clive _Dunn on (October 28 2012, 07:49 AM GMT) Absolutely fair point there but then why would they want to play in the lesser weather/conditions of England for the fraction of money they would get from a few matches in the IPL? But you're right - if they aren't going to do these things they have no right to moan. 3rd time lucky hopefully

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | October 29, 2012, 18:14 GMT

    I think everybody here needs to COOL. We will see who is better against whom in the 2 big test series coming up - Ind v Eng & Aus v SA. I don't believe in predictions especially in test cricket. India are really not that strong as our fans claim them to be. England though poor against spin bowling in general are not that bad to lose 4-0. The more even contest could be AUS v SA. Both are well balanced teams with good batting and bowling attacks. So let's all keep quiet for now and wait until November 15. No use of banter or cheap talk before that.

  • POSTED BY ProdigyA on | October 29, 2012, 17:02 GMT

    Absoutely spot on Virat and very well said without being too diplomatic. Thats the way it needs to be. You rock.

  • POSTED BY SoulTaker on | October 29, 2012, 16:55 GMT

    @RandyOZ: ROFL...dude we are gonna see who is the real minnows when you play against SA...

  • POSTED BY SamRoy on | October 29, 2012, 16:35 GMT

    @LilianThompson Kohli might have missed that England have better spin bowlers; but he certainly hasn't missed the fact that England's batting except for Trott (blocker) and Pietersen others are worser than any first class tail ender in India against spin. Yes, they are that BAD. Well, English spinners and pacemen can't dismiss India for 250 but it won't be useful if they get demolished for 150!

  • POSTED BY DingDong420 on | October 29, 2012, 16:15 GMT

    Absolutely correct, its stating the obvious, however only the likes of England moan about this.

  • POSTED BY SamRoy on | October 29, 2012, 16:15 GMT

    Problem with the Indian team is that they cannot get over their past. I am not saying India should not prepare turning tracks; they have every right to prepare them if they think they can beat England and Australia in them. My point is India did not lose in Australia and England 8-0 solely because of green tops. There were far more important reasons of slow reflexes of aging players and other unfit players and also terrible captaincy. And @KiwiRocker if you hate India so much why don't comment some place else. Here most of the visitors are Indians and they won't take kindly to you every time. Moreover, unlike you who only wants to see a certain team fail and a certain team succeed I rather prefer watching good quality, competitive cricket. We all support some teams and dislike some others; but how would you feel if the team you support is only allowed to play against Zimbabwe for the next 5 years? It will make for boring cricket and even you will be disgusted very soon.

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | October 29, 2012, 16:05 GMT

    @reality_check, you really need a reality check. I clearly said that England have won test series in every country since 2000 *sans* India. Which means that except India they have won test series in every country since 2000. @Valavan, thanks mate. But, our friend here really needs everything spelt out clearly. So, let me try as well. 3-1 in Aus (2010-2011), 2-1 in NZ (2007-2008), 2-1 in SAF (2004-2005), 3-0 in WI (2003-2004), 1-0 in Pak (2000-2001), 2-1 in SL (2000-2001). That is every country except India. Do you get it now?

  • POSTED BY aarpee2 on | October 29, 2012, 13:38 GMT

    I,for one believe Swann and Panesar in particular would be a handful.Nicky Boye and even part timers like Michel Clarke have won matches here for SA and Aussies. More so in the absence of Ganguly, Dravid and VVS the poor form of Gambhir and Sehwag and Dhoni in Tests over a period of time during 2010/2011 is also not a very encouraging sign. So before we count the chickens let us see how the fortunes swing for either team during the first test before we can even dream of a whitewash. You can expect a closely fought series for the sterner test overseas next year.

  • POSTED BY on | October 29, 2012, 13:12 GMT

    virat u r absolutely right....

  • POSTED BY yogesh.gg on | October 29, 2012, 11:47 GMT

    DINESHCC on (October 29 2012, 09:47 AM GMT) : That was hilarious :D

  • POSTED BY rajesh_singhSTM on | October 29, 2012, 11:45 GMT

    @ KiwiRocker @ I agree when you say Indian test status should be reviewed and I think you are a classic example of the saying " Jealous critics/fans whisper your teams success but broadcast failures" . You are asking ICC to take away status based on last test series results. Well in that case most countries will loose thier status at some stage because there is always one looser in every series. In 2010 Pakistan lost 9-0 in Australia. By your logic they should have lost status that time. SL never has won a test an India so they should loose status surely. For India having won a world cup in England , a T20 Wc in 2007 in SA , CB series in Australia 2008 and a NAtwest trophy in England in 2002 , not to mention Asia cup in SL/Sharjah and World cup on home soil. Now whatever your country is - be it SL , Pakistan or NZ ..please list where in world has your country won the W-cup or any series of any note .

  • POSTED BY ashankar on | October 29, 2012, 11:25 GMT

    @xylo But what if Bhajji got hammered? That will impact his confidence, He is riding high on his t20 confidence against England and he will be sure to get a go in this series. I dont think this is a ploy against England as many think but good for India that they dont have to think about their plan B with Spin dept.

  • POSTED BY ashankar on | October 29, 2012, 11:23 GMT

    @joseyesu I am with you on your bowlers pick :) We can sure see England dancing around the pitch (No Offense)

  • POSTED BY skilebow on | October 29, 2012, 11:15 GMT

    As an englishman I would expect nothing less Mr Kohli. Of course India are prefectly within their rights to do this. One of the things that makes internaitonal test cricket the greatest show on earth is the advantages it gives to the home side. No other sport can do this. To win an away series a team MUST be a team and triumph against adversity. It should be like this

  • POSTED BY on | October 29, 2012, 11:04 GMT

    I think the point everyone is missing, is that Indian selectors are seeing as to how they can find a few answers, first is how would the next talent in India play against English seam attack (surely the best in the world) and secondly who is the next Indian fast bowling talent, to suit this need they prepared a non spinning track (they know that every indian batsman will be good on this) and introduced fast bowlers who could replace the aging men. If one of the openers and one middle order score some good runs, and one fast bowler takes wicket , then that would be great for the selectors to choose from.

  • POSTED BY Valavan on | October 29, 2012, 10:20 GMT

    @CricketMaan, kohli scored a test hundred in Australia and 1 ODI hundred in England, so that makes him a great. If he want to become a Sachin/Dravid/Gavaskar/Lara/kallis, first of all he should play in any given strip rather than asking for turners to save their faces. If he keeps on talking this way and cant stand up to it, he will no way enjoy the success as VVS. This very same guy provoked Warner to come to india to show his colours. His attitudes will never give him the honours as Dravid/Lara and so on. cricinfo please publish.

  • POSTED BY Selassie-I on | October 29, 2012, 10:10 GMT

    Looks like he's going to be a great player - but seems like he'sgot the wrong attitude here, it seems like it's being instilled into the Indian team that you win at home and then complain that all the pitches are green tops away from home. What were you expecting? a complete dust bowl at Headingly perhaps? a slow & low pitch at the WACA maybe?(to be honest I didn't see any really green pitches and I watched all the games on TV and went to 3 days of the Oval test) Maybe the aim should to be to improve in foregin conditions, not just complain about them. As for the 'flat tracks in the warm ups' Every English cricket fan knows that Taunton is the best batting pitch in the country, the someset 2nd XI seemed to be okay batting on it? Nottingham seemed to get a 1st innigs victory at their ground against you? maybe if the team took their warm up matches more serious then they would get more out of them?

  • POSTED BY joseyesu on | October 29, 2012, 9:54 GMT

    Why don't we have Ashwin, Ojha, Mishra and Harbajan rather useless Zak, Ishant/Yadav. Sure End will never reach 150 in any of the innings.

  • POSTED BY India_boy on | October 29, 2012, 9:49 GMT

    THE SUMMARY of all comments here is that all teams are lions at home and lambs abroad(with the exception of SA). When India toured Eng, there was no such pessimism as India had beaten Eng comfortably on previous tours but look at the faces of English players, they look the proverbial lambs to be slaughtered. Same with Aus, in the last 1 year, India has beaten Aus in Aus more than what Aus could manage in India(2-0 twice). Aus could not win in India even at the peak of their prowess(1998 and 2002) On these 2 accounts, India is a better overall team than Aus and Eng (obviously its a wishful thinking, but then there are hardly any non-Indian commenteers here who have made sane comments!

  • POSTED BY DINESHCC on | October 29, 2012, 9:47 GMT

    KIWIROCKER: Actually where are you from? You have quoted many reasons for reviewing India's test status. 1) For not reaching the finals of CLT20 2) Ashwin's average is 61 outside India 3) For not reaching the final of Asia Cup 4) For not reaching SF in WCT20 5) India lost to Pakistan in 2006 and also in 1846 6) India drew the series in SA 7) India has not beaten SL (Where, when, why I do not know) 8) Special cricket balls used by India (I think they might have used football) 9) Not allowed DRS etc. etc. Please talk something about Cricket.

  • POSTED BY joseyesu on | October 29, 2012, 9:46 GMT

    @aShankar - Agreed, we are not yet decided with no.6 and Zak partner. Do you think you are going to choose among(Mumbai Team-Sagar Gorivale, Javed Khan, Neelkanth Parab, Bravish Shetty, Shardul Thakur - I don't even knew whether are batters or bowlers) or with (India-A Irfan Pathan, Ashok Dinda, Vinay Kumar, Parvinder Awana). Everybody will be convinced after this article. I assume that Ishant will partner Zak and Raina will take the 6th spot.

  • POSTED BY Biggus on | October 29, 2012, 9:42 GMT

    Kohli is an outstanding talent but he really is a bit of a dill.

  • POSTED BY reality_check27 on | October 29, 2012, 9:35 GMT

    valavan i have respondede to shan 15 where he has said that england have won everywhere since 2000 while te fact remains that they did not win in india and in pakistan

  • POSTED BY Sanawana on | October 29, 2012, 9:14 GMT

    I also think the guy is not using his brain while talking! While these remarks might be a dig at the touring English side but why involve Australia?? they are not the same side! what good does it do if you drag Australia in this?

  • POSTED BY satish619chandar on | October 29, 2012, 9:05 GMT

    @Handy87 : So, if we prepare a spin track and India scores 600+ and opponents were defeated by an innings, it is not a spin track? England batters grew up in those conditions and are customized to play there. But not here. Same with the Indian batsmen there.

  • POSTED BY redneck on | October 29, 2012, 8:58 GMT

    the only green tops aus rolled out last summer were the gabba and hobart. the waca was the only lively one the whole indian series and that was more bounce than sideways movement. nothing wrong with india making turning pitches as long as they dont make winning the toss the most important factor to winning the test. a fact lost on some sub continent curators

  • POSTED BY CricketMaan on | October 29, 2012, 8:54 GMT

    @BrianCharlesVivek - Since when did you start following cricket? He has 3 100s overseas in the limited chances he has had to play. 1 in England and 2 in Aus within a year. Both those tours were his debut series. Now show me some other youngster who has done that!!

  • POSTED BY Valavan on | October 29, 2012, 8:44 GMT

    @realitycheck27, before answering shan, you made just one statement correct, England won 1 test in India since 1985, England vs SL, 2 - 1 in tests in 2001, and 1 - 1 in recent, England vs Pakistan, 2 - 1 in 2001, Pak won 1 -0 and 3 - 0 in 2005 and 2011, England vs WI 3 - 0 in 2004 in Windies and lost 1 - 0 in 2009, so as far as england is concerned they havent won in India. but they have been doing pretty well in other countries. so get your facts right before posting it.cricinfo please publish.

  • POSTED BY Valavan on | October 29, 2012, 8:34 GMT

    @Kunderanengineer, @venkatesh018, both spot on with the comments, but i cant understand Kohli, coz how come some team score heavily on a green pitch, Is Oval, Birmingham, SCG, Adelaide are greentops, wow then Clarke and Cook are great players on greentops, The climatic condition contributes as well, so Kohli doesnt trust his paceman, so he admits Zaheer Khan or Umesh Yadav can do nothing and worser than english counterpart. Everyone knows what let down India, they lost the battle mentally.@rahulcricket007, i can see your frustration but thats how the way goes, all touring teams in Oz or England, get atleast 2 grounds favouring 5050 chances, its upto the team to grab it. cricinfo please publish.

  • POSTED BY ramli on | October 29, 2012, 8:24 GMT

    Brian CharlesVivek ... Kohli had 1 century to his name in Aus in tests when SRT, RD and VVS could not find one ... Give Kohli time to visit other countries too ... then pass the judgment .. now it is very very early ...

  • POSTED BY reality_check27 on | October 29, 2012, 8:10 GMT

    we are happy to be friends and we like positive comments there is no problem but it ur going to insult our indian team and fight then bring it we will l give it back too you choice is yours

  • POSTED BY on | October 29, 2012, 7:46 GMT

    Its no bad to encash Home Advantage for the Host team,Every Cricketting nation do that.......Virat Kohli right if they (Eng and Aust) Provides flatter in Practice game with 120 km/Phr Bowlers before playing on Green mines in Test why not India response the same dose to them.Now its upto English team how they handled it.Further now Cricket are globalised so much that everyvisiting team knows condition very well KP and others are constatnly playing Cricket in India through IPLs and their adjacent tours to similair Indian condition UAE and SRi lanka

  • POSTED BY on | October 29, 2012, 7:31 GMT

    good to see the way Kohli talks..Mathews , Chandi and Thirimanne should learn from this and talk aggressively..Mahela and Sanga have been great capts but they were too dilomatic

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | October 29, 2012, 7:25 GMT

    WE ALWAYS PLAYS IN AUSTRLIA ON MCG , SCG , WACA & ADELIADE OVAL . I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW WILL INDIAN BATSMEN PLAY IF THE MATCHES HELD AT BRISBANE , BELLERIVE OVAL , WACA . I CAN GUARATEE IT NO INDIAN BATMSNE WILL MAKE 50 IN THE WHOLE TOUR . INDIA WILL STRUGGLE TO MAKE EVEN 100 RUNS .

  • POSTED BY reality_check27 on | October 29, 2012, 7:24 GMT

    shans 15 let me correct u india's away recod is right what u mentioned but with england they havent won a test series in india since 1985 and you even lost to westindies in westindies that was first test series win for westindies at home in 5 years and u have only managed to draw a test series in srilanka with a whitewash against india in india in 2007 which is not a suprise as ur team has only won 1 test match since 1985 in india and a whitewash against pakistan and it took england 18 years to beat india in england it tok u 18 years to beat us at home where advantage is in your favour really poor

  • POSTED BY reality_check27 on | October 29, 2012, 7:23 GMT

    shans 15 let me correct u india's away recod is right what u mentioned but with england they havent won a test series in india since 1985 and you even lost to westindies in westindies that was first test series win for westindies at home in 5 years and u have only managed to draw a test series in srilanka with a whitewash against india in india in 2007 which is not a suprise as ur team has only won 1 test match since 1985 in india and a whitewash against pakistan and it took england 18 years to beat india in england it tok u 18 years to beat us at home where advantage is in your favour really poor

  • POSTED BY reality_check27 on | October 29, 2012, 7:07 GMT

    well let me start with england well as far as ur team goes u keep on coming up with 4-0 record for india and what avout ur team in 30 years has only won 1 test match in india thats is as poor as anything can get and some one commented here that india doesnt want to learn to play on green tops with englands record on subcontinent pitches it sounds like they need to learn on how to play on turning tracks more than india needs to green gtops and for aussie fans yes we lost 4-0 in aus but last 6 test matches that we have played in aus we have won 1 test match and last 6 test matches that u have played in in dia u have lost 4 and have managed to draw the rest two we havent lost a test series at home since 2005 unlike ur team who has lost to south africa at home england at home and even india would have won but we all know what happened in the sydney test.

  • POSTED BY Rajesh_india_1990 on | October 29, 2012, 6:26 GMT

    @thermal_system mahela and sanga are the perfect flat track bullies..go and see mahela's performance outside sc..its pathetic..

  • POSTED BY on | October 29, 2012, 6:07 GMT

    As an Indian, I feel this attitude is going to take us nowhere. We need to produce quality batsman who can play at least average cricket on all sorts of tracks and bowlers who can pick up 20 wickets overseas also.

    I understand the home advantage that india wants to have but lets not cry foul over our previous defeats in England and Australia. We were comprehensively beaten in all departments on all kinds of tracks there. I think Indian board is just happy organising IPL and winning it (All Indian Teams so no question of loosing). Test cricket is their last priority.

  • POSTED BY BrianCharlesVivek on | October 29, 2012, 6:05 GMT

    After Gambhir saying 53 average, now its the little Kohlis turn. Can someone reminds him he is just a subcontinent bully?? and not Tendulkar or Dravid..

  • POSTED BY on | October 29, 2012, 6:00 GMT

    Total rubbish from VK, per GG earlier and his "lots of grass" in Australia. SCG? Adelaide? In 90-91 India did a full 5-Test tour. Since 1999, 15 Tests in Australia, only 3 (20%) on fast/bouncy pitches (Gabba/WACA). The only Gabba Test was rain affected (an even draw with ~ 280 overs/3 days completed). 8 (**53.33%**) at slow/turning/pancakes (Ad/SCG) and 4 (26.66%) in MCG (medium/slowish and bouncy). If it was an even spread then it would be 40% fast/bouncy. It's not as though Aus play even 35% of India Tests at grounds like Mohali, and even the quicker ones in India are no faster/bouncier than the SCG. And Bolly, and P George are certainly not 120kph

    This is schoolboy-level taunting stuff, like the thing with Warner in the WACA Test about "Wait till you come to India". Not a good mindset and augurs badly for future Indian tours of RSA/AUS/ENG

  • POSTED BY Ray24 on | October 29, 2012, 5:44 GMT

    India will loose if they have DRS for the series. Without the DRS, please mark my words, all the 50/50, or even the 80/20 decisions will go in India's favor as no umpire has the guts to give a decision against India. We all know this is due to the kind of money the BCCI controls - no one wants to be left out of the IPL, hence why upset the Indians. I hope fairness prevails and we have the DRS consistently for these test matches.

  • POSTED BY pknn on | October 29, 2012, 5:28 GMT

    Mr Kohli, if this is the way Indian cricket looks at winning matches, then please be prepared for 3-0, 4-0 drubbing everytime the team plays outside the subcontinent.

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | October 29, 2012, 5:24 GMT

    Kohli is another brat, talented but spoiled by the Indian media who have made him look like something he most definitely is not - a great batsman. He is not Sachin or Ponting but thinks that if he shows attitude, he will be considered a great. He has done well in ODIs mostly in the sub-continent and did play well in the last two tests in Australia. But, he still has a lot to learn and should learn to keep his mouth shut and his bat do all the talking. India can prepare square turners/dust bowls or whatever they want. If England are good enough, they will win. If not, they would, hopefully, have learnt their lessons. But, Indian players and fans should understand that Eng/Aus/SA did not prepare all greentops when India toured these countries so that they could win. There was no secret plan hatched before India's tour. Again, no problem with India preparing any kind of pitch but don't make it appear as if other countries committed a crime or something.

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | October 29, 2012, 5:18 GMT

    Why do Indian fans keep referring to this series as "important"? It is clear to one and all that they have no respect for the England team. They keep saying that England are a poor team and they will beat them 4-0. If England is such a poor team, then why give importance to this series? Shouldn't it be treated the same way like a series against Bangladesh or West Indies? Is it because Indian fans believe that their team is an ordinary one too? Please publish.

  • POSTED BY on | October 29, 2012, 5:16 GMT

    Ah indians! so kohli admits that indians are weak against fast bowling?

  • POSTED BY on | October 29, 2012, 5:05 GMT

    so @thermal_system are you trying to tell that out of ponting's 41 test hundreds, 22 came in the sub continent? that dude couldnt even stay on the crease for more than 5 minutes. everyone is strong in their own backyard. Century is a century no matter who it comes against or where it comes. and lemme tell you one thing: RICKY PONTING is one over rated player. that dude just scores runs in australia and plenty of them.

  • POSTED BY ashankar on | October 29, 2012, 4:57 GMT

    my reply was @joseyesu and not Alexk400

  • POSTED BY satish619chandar on | October 29, 2012, 4:49 GMT

    Come on. It is just a mind game. If India's inability to play quality fast bowling on swinging and bouncing track was exploited in other nations, what should stop Indians to prepare a turning and bouncing track which would exploit opponents weakness? If India had to fight it out and show determination to win it abroad, then the same applies to others too. Don't make fun of yourself by calling for so called balanced wickets.

  • POSTED BY ashankar on | October 29, 2012, 4:46 GMT

    @Alexk400 You are looking at this only from your perspective. This practice game is also for us to decide on certain things before the team is selected. Of course, it will take a big call to make radical changes before a big series but we will know the back up plans at least. We are testing our opening backup here and the no. 6 requirement too. By including 4 seamers we are looking for the best partner for Zak and if Zak goes down we need two..Spinners, well our net bowlers even can do well in our home conditions so we no need to test them. This is our perspective of not playing spinners and it is not about just denying spinners to England.

  • POSTED BY ashankar on | October 29, 2012, 4:42 GMT

    @jb633 We are indeed preparing grass tops for our domestic four day or five day matches. We are indeed learning and dont have to learn to play on a grass top by hosting those kind of pitches for the visitors. You cant expect us to 'learn' during a big series where we wanna avenge our loss. Will you guys learn to play sping by giving us or SL or Pak a turner when we visit you guys? Ridiculous comment yours!!! Btw, it is not the attitude that we have now is a problem it is indeed surprising for brits and aussies that we are talking back. They have seen Indians as Sober less talking guys who would fear your look in the eyes, not anymore!! Yes 0-8 loss is worse but that does not mean that we are flat track bullies as your media or supporters suggest. We have played well in SA, Aus. Nz and Eng in the past at least. But how about Eng teams or for that matter Aus except for one series?

  • POSTED BY dhoni_sachin_fan on | October 29, 2012, 4:33 GMT

    @ Cpt.Meanster and @ jb633 : Exactly my thoughts. They can prepare whatever they want. A square turning pitch, dustbowls to end the match in 3 days, but they don't have to publicly announce such things. Nobody wants them to defend their strategy even before they apply it. A similar case was when Dhoni tried a rotation policy with the 3 opening batsmen in Aus. Why make your strategy open and predictable when you can still have it done your way quietly?

  • POSTED BY vj3478 on | October 29, 2012, 4:26 GMT

    @Thermal_sytem: I guess you mean scoring a century in subcontinent is so easy. May be it is ..... So how many 100 s does punter have in India.... In tests.... So is he grt??? Not by ur stats but he definitely is. Just remember that kohli is still 24... By his current records, he is definitely better than punter or sachin too.... Whe you compare three of them at that age or by number of matches kohli played.

  • POSTED BY KiwiRocker- on | October 29, 2012, 4:25 GMT

    I completely agree with GerrardLK. If performance was the sole criteria then India's test status should be reviewed, but ICC would never do this. India only became top ranked test nation due to a lot of home test matches, special cricket balls and no DRS. India lost their last series in Pakistan(2006), India lost in England 4-0. India lost in Australia 4-0. India drew in SA. India has not beaten SL. Why/how exactly India was ranked no.1? It is a farce. A look at India's performance in ODI's is equally miserable.India did not even reach final of Asia cup. India did not even reach semi final of T20. None of Indian teams ( they had four) was even in final of CLT20. Kohli has scored couple of overseas hundrerds. He has yet to face likes of Steyn and Morkel in their backard and master swing of Anderson and Co in England.If kohli had a record like Ponting or McGrath then surely, he could start hyping things up.R.Ashwin has an average of 61 outside India and Ojha has yet to play outside India

  • POSTED BY on | October 29, 2012, 4:24 GMT

    James Wing has a point there. But the fact is that the sub-continental temperament is brittle and once they start on the slide, they get into negative sentiments. There is no disputing that.

  • POSTED BY Agila on | October 29, 2012, 4:09 GMT

    @RandyOZ, How're you doing , Mr Cake Walk? Get ready to worry SA series! Looks like its your turn now begin to walk on the ground, like England did a few months ago!

  • POSTED BY Agila on | October 29, 2012, 4:06 GMT

    @Thermal_sytem, we dont consider someone who cant bat in the sub-continent a batsmen at all!

  • POSTED BY Htc-Android on | October 29, 2012, 3:22 GMT

    @ yorkshirematt. kohli is nowhere closer to the class of ponting. he is just another overrated batsman. out of the 13 hundred 11 came in the subcontintent. he is a class act in the subcontinent, but overseas he is just another ordinary batsmen. his 133 at hobart came in a flat track.

  • POSTED BY joseyesu on | October 29, 2012, 3:16 GMT

    Ohh,,,is this the reason for ind not choosing spinners in practice match against Eng. What a ploy...

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | October 29, 2012, 2:37 GMT

    England should appont Jonathan trott as captain. I do not have that much confidence in cook captaincy. He is a good batsman with great stats. But not a leader. There will be lots of politics under him. His team fight but no much result to show. Ecb thinking of young and process. Process works only correct ingredient in it. Not sure cook is of great leadership material. England can not win in India with cook leadership i think. Even with all the politics dhoni is a python in india. he wait wait and eats you alive when you sleep. Dhoni conservative philosophy works well in india. if you give all the tools , there is no better captain than dhoni. He just have too much ego after world cup. I don't mind as long as he white wash england.

  • POSTED BY rustyryan on | October 29, 2012, 2:32 GMT

    @jb633: Quality comment, Mate. If only others are as rational as you....

  • POSTED BY Chris_P on | October 29, 2012, 2:21 GMT

    @Cpt.Meanster. India underdogs? At home? Not in this world my friend, even allowing for transition. Weakened maybe, beatable maybe, but underdogs???.. That was a gee-up, right?

  • POSTED BY on | October 29, 2012, 2:20 GMT

    India are really rewriting history and suggesting that they were poorly served by the pitchs in England and Australia. I'd like to know Kohli's opinion on why India lost the 4th test at the Oval by an innings, was it the green top (the oval spins, Swann took 9 wickets) or had India not had enough practice is the previous 3 tests? If India want to serve up spinning tracks that's up to them, I have not problem with the home side preparing the pitches it likes, but lets not pretend that England and Australia beat India by some nefarious scheme to produce unfair pitches, its an insult to both countries and a disservice to Indian cricket if they do not learn from what went wrong.

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | October 29, 2012, 1:16 GMT

    Kohli is an fine young talent who has the potential to be great. However, he needs to rein in his attitiude if he wants popularity around the world. If he carries on like this (giving the finger to aussie crowd for example) he could be the next Ricky Ponting. A batsman of the highest calibre, but with a dislikable side to him.

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | October 29, 2012, 0:45 GMT

    @maddy20: Dear friend, I too have no problem in our players voicing their opinions about revenge and those sort of things. But, the problem is that our team is NOT willing to learn how to cope with pressure and difficult conditions abroad. It's the equivalent of England telling their fans that they DON'T Care if they lose 4-0 in India simply because they cannot play spin bowling. That to me is arrogance and ignorance of the highest rank. Sadly, many Indian fans also share the same mindset. We are in our home now so we can crow all we want but it is important to me as an Indian fan to see my team do well overseas. That is how the world respects you. It's like being a good child to my family inside my home and being a BAD boy to society and other people outside my home. Nobody cares how good a child is inside their homes. It's the outside conduct that defines them as fine citizens for country and the world.

  • POSTED BY maddy20 on | October 28, 2012, 23:17 GMT

    As much as I like our players to keep quiet before an important series, a part of me tells they whould give it to them big time. We just had one bad year and everyone was pouncing on us. Its time to return the favor.

  • POSTED BY jb633 on | October 28, 2012, 23:05 GMT

    As an England fan I have no problem with India producing spinning tracks as they are exploiting England's known weakness against spin. I do however have issues with the manner in which some of the Indian players are portraying their opinions. Now I am not going to go on about India's poor recent away record but I feel with this attitude it appears they do not want to learn to play on a grassy top so long as they can get their own back when they play at home. India in the previous decade had players who could bat on any given surface and this made them a top drawer test match side. I have no problem with India using home advantage but I still feel India should not rest on that alone but look to improve their play abroad too.

  • POSTED BY Dashgar on | October 28, 2012, 22:58 GMT

    I don't understand India's complaints of Aussie pitches. The two greenest tracks in Australia are Brisbane and Hobart and they didn't have to play on either. Plus they were allowed to play on two roads in Sydney and Adelaide. The fact that they still failed is proof of how much better the Aussie team was in every aspect last summer. To whine about the pitches is just immature. To try to intentionally disadvantage an oppositions preparation would be considered 'not cricket'. India played their Aus warm ups in Canberra because it is the main Aussie city that doesn't get to see any international cricket. It was not an attempt to disadvantage India, and the pitch was much different to Melbourne where the first test was held.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 22:22 GMT

    I agree with Kohli, Dhoni and Gambhir. India should look to maximize the home advantage. Green top and fast bowlers for practice matches and turning pitches and spinners for test matches look to be a very good strategy. As added benefit, green to fast tracks give India opportunity to test young, promising, fast bowlers against a batting side that plays fast bowling well. It also gives India opportunity to test young, promising batsmen on fast track against good bowling attack. I think selectors have done good job in selecting team. Lets see if curators can prepare right tracks. ...... As for the affect of India not given right practice pitches, it is only half-correct. .....It is true in case of Kohli, because, he did very well after first two test matches. It is not true for others as they failed even after first two tests. ...As for GREAT Tendulkar, Sehwag, Dravid, Laxman, Gambhir and Dhoni - yes, SAD but true; they did fail against fast bowling this time.

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | October 28, 2012, 22:12 GMT

    I think India should just be quiet and go about their business. If they want to crush England, so be it. It's not only about producing spinning tracks, but the Indian team has to show the attitude and hunger to WIN. They clearly haven't done that since the World Cup back last year. I know Indians DON'T like test cricket. But if that's the case why play test cricket when you are gonna keep losing every game ? Indians need to treat this series as a learning experience. Yes, they are playing at home but England have the better players comparatively. It won't be easy for India. I am an Indian fan and want to India to do well even in boring test cricket. But, I must also be realistic in my hopes. This Indian team is really not a strong one. So if I were England, I won't be losing sleep.

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | October 28, 2012, 21:04 GMT

    Going over old ground again but lets look back at the 2011 series. Lords, 1st test. An excellent batting wicket, a slightly green tinge to it and overcast conditions on the first day (when India put England in to bat) but apart from that there was absolutely no need to worry about the pitch at all. The match went into the last day. Again a sign of an excellent batting wicket. 2nd Test, Trent Bridge. Always been renowned for swing and seam movement, especially on the first day, when, again, England were put in. After that some unusually warm weather meant the pitch dried out. England made hay in the second innings. India could have done in the first but collapsed spectacularly, eventually bowled out for well short of the target set by England in their 2nd inn. 3rd Test Edgbaston. Perhaps this was the most seam friendly pitch of the series, as usually the case at Edgbaston so we'll let Kohli off here. 4th Test THE OVAL. Need I say more. Perhaps the most batsman freindly pitch in eng

  • POSTED BY Rajesh_india_1990 on | October 28, 2012, 20:24 GMT

    What an aggressive young kid!!keep it up kohli!!thrash the so called Magician ajmal,finn,anderson whoever come on your way...

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 20:10 GMT

    We should give them a square turner. Play to our strength. Simples.

    But, that does not excuse us from not performing outside the sub continent.

  • POSTED BY ObjectiveCricketism on | October 28, 2012, 20:03 GMT

    It is perfectly fair to prepare pitches to your advantage.

  • POSTED BY Htc-Android on | October 28, 2012, 19:58 GMT

    even rank turners wont be useful for india. because indian spinners dont spin the ball. instead of spinning the ball they spin on the ground.

  • POSTED BY Htc-Android on | October 28, 2012, 19:54 GMT

    Green tops are the only reason why india lost 8-0!!!. otherwise india would have whitewashed eng and aus 4-0!!!!!. india would have won every single match by an innings and 400 runs!!!!!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 19:35 GMT

    tit for tat!!indian players needs to have an attacking attitude to crush england.thats what australians have done in their era of dominance in the world cricket. so, roar india...roar

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 19:35 GMT

    India thrashed south Africa at Durban in 2010-11 test series. To all those criticizing India, watch the highlights of Boxing day test 2010 India vs Sa played at kingsmead Durban.

  • POSTED BY Samdanh on | October 28, 2012, 19:22 GMT

    There were no green tops in Adelaide and Sydney. Yet our batsmen crumbled. We are better players of spin - no doubt - but wait for a month or so before victory cry. Execution needed. Press statements would not help if we fail to deliveron the pitch like we failed in slow and turning tracks in Sydney and Adelaide.

  • POSTED BY CandidIndian on | October 28, 2012, 18:56 GMT

    I am confused that whether this is desperation to take so called revenge from England for whitewashing India or its playing safe as Indian team is in transitional phase with new players around.May be this is some strategy by selectors, Dhoni and Fletcher as they understand cricket lot more than any common fan like me,but as i see it ,looks a bit defensive move.Not so long ago Aussies came to India with their special consultant Greg Chapel who arranged for different kinds of rank turners as he had good relations with Rajasthan cricket board,still after so called best practice Aussies lost that 4 match series 2-0.There were no discussions about rank turners then or last time when Eng toured India.I am not sure about the confidence level this time,Indians need to get out of that 8-0 shock sooner.Only time will tell that their confidence is back or not to become competitive in this test format,i hope favorable conditions will be of some help.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 18:54 GMT

    @GerrardLK - Like how England still has test status after thrashing against Pakistan and SA

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | October 28, 2012, 18:49 GMT

    I had called the Indian team as "underdogs" for this series PURELY because that way, the weight of expectation wouldn't be any more than it should be. I think India are back to the drawing board in the test format. It will take them some time to climb up the ladder in test cricket. For starters, our bowling is appalling. Besides an ageing Zaheer and Umesh Yadav, our pace department is empty. Even our spin bowling department is almost bare. In total, our bowling is really a matter of a joke. Fine, now to the batting; our batting is NOT what it used to be say 6 years ago. Even then, our batting was inconsistent. So Indian fans need to be REALISTIC in their aspirations for this series. I am not saying India can't win BUT they can only if the pitches start to turn from day 2. England could collapse and lose their way. Cause anything other than rank turners, India could face a stiff challenge. So I am not too excited at our test team by any means. In ODIs and T20s, India are powerful.

  • POSTED BY Aryansblue on | October 28, 2012, 18:42 GMT

    @gerrard LK...... How could England still has ODI status after trashing 5-0 from India alone ???

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | October 28, 2012, 18:42 GMT

    Fair talk from a FAIR and SUPERB player for India. Yes, India should prepare PURE spinning wickets because that's how they can beat England comprehensively given England's reputation against spin bowling. Having said that, I don't think a pitch that would crumble within 2-3 days would do this series any good. The English media will pounce on it and offer excuses for England's downfall rather than look at it the other way around. It could also set a bad precursor for every series where teams from contrasting conditions participate. So India can now expect TRUE green tops whenever they tour England, Australia, and SA. That will eventually kill off test cricket which is already a lethargic format.

  • POSTED BY subbass on | October 28, 2012, 18:19 GMT

    What is Kholi talking about ? The pitches in England were hardly green tops. At Edgbaston and the Oval India had two tracks they could have felt somewhat at home, sure the advantage was with England but they were two flat,(Cook gets almost 300 at Edgbaston for instance) slightly Asian type decks. Adelaide is another pitch India should be able to cope with to some degree they have shown this in the past. Having said that I do expect India to win comfortably, probably 3-0 or 4-0. Reality is only SA are good away from home in world cricket. Yet they do choke at home at times so I would not be confident about them staying number 1 for over 2 years say. It's good how any 1 team of 3 or 4 could be number 1.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 18:15 GMT

    Why do any so called international test teams need practice games anyways if they are to not get a practice they wish for... isn't it waste of time??? Neither India nor England can claim to be no.1 even among their own fans if they are restive to this level amidst slightly uncomfortable conditions.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 18:13 GMT

    @GerrardLK, come beats us 4-0 in india.. then will see who has to think of Test status.. apart from 2 series , india has played excellent cricket all over world

  • POSTED BY grizzle on | October 28, 2012, 18:11 GMT

    Good post Shan156! That really puts India's away record during their so-called "golden age" into perspective!

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 18:05 GMT

    The coming up series will be good to take revenge for the debacle in England and Australia, but whether to make them practice on a favourable pitches or not does n't make any sense. Its subcontinent Boss !!! and definately they have to suffer of the heat and crowd, and piches here may favour fast blower one or two days , later it make help spinners to dance batsman...

  • POSTED BY worstcasegemini on | October 28, 2012, 17:15 GMT

    Well, does Mr.Vaughan remember that Mr.Flower had asked Panesar not to bowl to Sachin to during India's practice sessions in England last year?? India were bad last summer. Agreed. England have been poorer away from home for ages. We cant wait to see you guys this time...

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | October 28, 2012, 16:55 GMT

    @Clive_Dunn on (October 28 2012, 07:49 AM GMT) Absolutely fair point there but then why would they want to play in the lesser weather/conditions of England for the fraction of money they would get from a few matches in the IPL? But you're right - if they aren't going to do these things they have no right to moan

  • POSTED BY aaaa2aa on | October 28, 2012, 16:53 GMT

    i think england got a very decent chance to win with the inclusion of kp eng batting line up got a boost and got a good bowling attack this series is gonna intresting my gut feeling is england is gonna squiese past india

  • POSTED BY coolitbaby on | October 28, 2012, 16:48 GMT

    @nickcarter80 Kohli has more grey matter between his ears than your losers Mahela and Sanga put together. Kohli has almost the same centuries as your champion choker Sangakkara, and he is only getting started in international cricket. And, quit amusing everybody by posting with an English name - what's your real name? Kulratna or something?

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | October 28, 2012, 16:41 GMT

    They should produce pitches fair to both teams. This is how minnow teams like this learn the game.

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | October 28, 2012, 16:31 GMT

    Agila, do you even follow cricket or only in your dreams? "Atleast India won away from home many a time", let's see? Since 2000, India has won 2 series in Windies, 1 in England, 1 in NZ, and 1 in Pak. That's about it. England have won series in every country sans India in that same time. Even if you consider their last series, England have won in WI and NZ. England have won in Aus and Eng. The both drew their last seies in SA and SL. So, how is it that India have done better away? Don't get little things like facts come in the way of your silly opinions, eh? Re: the article, who says that India shouldn't prepare rank turners. They should, absolutely. But, to claim that England prepared green tops is not correct either. The Oval was anything but. Edgbaston had a little bit in it in the beginning but flattened out as England amassed over 700. @ibbani, I see that your experience speaks after India's last two tours. Sleep peacefully bro, it is just a game. lol.

  • POSTED BY Indian_Fan09 on | October 28, 2012, 16:22 GMT

    Yup!! Thats the way to go Virat!! Instead of getting the team equipped against "good" short pitch bowling, you say to get in some turners!! You look like you can be a genuine world class player but with this attitude you may lose your way in the end!!

  • POSTED BY brusselslion on | October 28, 2012, 16:04 GMT

    If you have an advantage that it is within the laws of the game then why not make the most of it? I do hope that, should England lose the forthcoming series, no England player behaves in a similar manner to Kohli; he sounds like a Premier League footballer/ manager ("It's everybody elses' fault not ours").

    Well done to @kunderanengineer on (October 28 2012, 12:28 PM GMT) who summerises the reasons for India's defeat in England very nicely (The one other factor I would add would be Dhoni's appalling captaincy). It's a shame that the vast majority of Indian posters choose to bury their heads in the sand (like Mr. Kohli) rather than face up to the cold, hard facts; India lost heavily in England and Australia simply because they were not good enough.

  • POSTED BY Harmony111 on | October 28, 2012, 16:00 GMT

    @Mahendra Naik: Why don't you apply the same yardstick to England? They too have to do well in spinning conditions f they are to be called a great side. I am surprised to see that you have fallen for a pseudo argument to call someone great. Your definition of HOME conditions is extremely flawed. If India do well in SL then you would still call it HOME conditions but if Eng do well in Aus then you see the geographical distance and say that Eng did well AWAY when in fact Eng and Aus conditions are more similar than dissimilar. If India do well in WI and NZ then you would say that they are weak sides. Point is, you will never stick to a definition and will always criticize Indian players while giving plenty of rope to the other teams. Did you not see how shameful Eng were in India in 2011. Eng have not won in India since 1984 and Aus are 02 and 0-2 too. And I did not hear you saying that Eng and Aus can do well in HOME conditions only. I hate to see you are a fellow countryman here.

  • POSTED BY GerrardLK on | October 28, 2012, 16:00 GMT

    How could India still have Test status after the 8-0 thrashing???

  • POSTED BY blenheimfs on | October 28, 2012, 15:28 GMT

    Interesting remarks by Virat Kohli. I agree that India are entitled to produce turning wickets. It is what Test cricket is about - against all sides, in all conditions, in all climates.

    Cant's speak for Australia but when India toured England in 2011, Kohli didn't play in the warm up match or any of the Test matches or, for that matter, anything other than one day cricket. I was at Taunton for 2 days and the wicket was hard fast and Somerset scored over 400 with the aid of Andrew Strauss. I was also at Lord's for 3 days and the wicket was a typical good Lord's batting track. Neither were anything approaching "green" seamer friendly tracks and although the Somerset attack couldn't have been described as pacy, they still managed to dismiss India for 200 less than they scored.

    I think these remarks were intended for Indian consumption.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 15:26 GMT

    Even if India going to prepare rank turners, England are going to win this series. They haveworld best spinner Swann and if the wicket is going to turn for England, it will also turn for India.

  • POSTED BY aaaa2aa on | October 28, 2012, 15:22 GMT

    its not a big deal loosing 4-0 against india in odi after trashing india 5-0 in test matches a test match is a real test for a cricket player it show's the strenght and weakness of a player pak trashed eng in test and lost the odi series, after wining a test series comprehensivly you'r , laid back and don't worry of the rest, anyway good luck to both the teams.....lol

  • POSTED BY DaGameChanger on | October 28, 2012, 15:09 GMT

    Some people have audacity to claim against Kohli..who played all the tests and still scored runs..He is the best batsman in world right now..you think you understan d pitches more than him..Most of the people commenting..never have walked in real cricket pitch..

  • POSTED BY BlueAndYellow on | October 28, 2012, 14:39 GMT

    @ mcsdl, are you placing srilanka in the same league as Aus and SA? do you even understand cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 14:36 GMT

    I hope SRT will not force Sandeep Patel & co to spark controversy over him after this series!

  • POSTED BY abhinav.rambhatla on | October 28, 2012, 14:33 GMT

    @ Mahendra Naik: u r being ignorant that this fellow has been the best ODI Batsman of the year.n abt Ashwin, he took 9 wickets in 3 matches in Aus( he didn't play the Perth test ).bw finger spinners have struggled in aus.Bhajji has only 6 wickets in total in 2 test tours.his best is 3/106 which Ashwin bettered in his very first inn in aus(3/81). We Indians sometimes let our team down. I am not telling that we shouldn't criticise our team ; constructive criticism is one thing and bashing is entirely another.

  • POSTED BY Agila on | October 28, 2012, 14:31 GMT

    Contd from my earlier post..India lost coz they relaxed little too much after the WC2011 win and never applied themselves properly. Which is well accepted fact. Atleast India won away from home many a time. But the English team never won, apart from those flash in a pan Ashes in Aus. Its a well accepted fact that Indian bowling is one dimensional which atleast substantiates the fact that India had a lesser success-rate compared to home. why dont the much boasted, multi-dimensional English bowling unit, cant win matches for Eng away(Let alone away, they coudlnt even with a test for them at home). Eng play better cricket and win! English press stop loud mouthing over any solitary wins.. Eng can only win on weaker minnow teams or "Injury ridden, Complacent teams". Let your "world class" bowlers Jammie, Swann, Finn and Panesar win the games for you..Stop whining gentlemen..it only show frailty on your part.

  • POSTED BY BlueAndYellow on | October 28, 2012, 14:22 GMT

    @ landl47, We all saw how unbeatable England are on seam-friendly pitches when SA toured england. Truly a force to reckon.

  • POSTED BY Agila on | October 28, 2012, 14:19 GMT

    All English fans, when y'all say that England managed tall scores 474 in the first test, 544 in the second, 710/7 in the 3rd test and 591/6, after being "considerate" enough to give flat pitches to favor India, why complain? your batsmen were good anyway right, given the flat tracks of India. When you had two world class spinners in Graeme Swann and Monty Panesar, what makes you folks complain, about some India A team "not" having any spinners? Let your batsman manage the same tall scores and win!! Fair enough isnt it? Dont understand Mr. Michael Vaughn's point here. If India lost "4-0" on "flat tracks" to a "better" English team, Let the "better" English team win 4-0 and regain their No.1 test spot. Fair Enough isnt it? I just see extreme timidiy in the comments made by the English players, probably after the 5-0 ODI thrashing barely months after their much acclaimed 4-0 test victory (and guess ODI victory too). India lost then, coz they "did not" play to their potential!

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 14:08 GMT

    I would say Mr.kohli has started to think that India lost 8-0 overseas because of Doctored pitches prepared by Aus & Eng. He is forgetting that the great & No.1 team performs in any conditions.Also the great players also perform in any situations..What was wrong with tendulkar? Our own mystery spinner( who has only just to bowl a ball to get a wicket in indian pitches) Ashwin got 4 wkts in 4 matches. And that too of tailenders? India is great only in Home conditions...thats a cruel Truth....and lastly Mr. Kohli one sunny day doesn't mean a summer....you have to play & excel in all conditions...one century vs Nz's (powerful bowling attack?) & one in Aus doesn't make you greatest batsman...open your eyes...shut your mouth & make your bat talk....

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | October 28, 2012, 14:02 GMT

    Of course India should prepare turning pitches. If they prepare seam-friendly pitches, they might just as well concede the series to England before it starts. At least on turning wickets India will have a chance.

  • POSTED BY nickcarter80 on | October 28, 2012, 13:50 GMT

    I think Kohli is a very good batsman. But definitely he lacks some grey matter between his ears. Poor guy, BCCI should give him some decent education.

  • POSTED BY ibbani on | October 28, 2012, 13:48 GMT

    if ENG/AUS/SAW can play to their strength of fast bowling in their backyard, why should not the IND/SRL/PAK not have spin tracks to play to our strengths. We shud thrash those team black and blue so thay should not be able to sleep normally after touring INDIA especially. They should always have a nightmare of the INDIAN tour for having the worst tours of their life for their worst performances against SPIN.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 12:59 GMT

    if england are sooooooooo great as some of u mention, then plz do throw some light on their performance at the t20 wc!!!!!! 6 wickets shared between bhajji and chawla who r not even in the side..... that too on a wicket that hardly turned!!!! wonder whether the englishmen can get bat on ball on pitches like mumbai and kolkata!!! I guess india can go in with 9 batsmen plus ashwin and ojha!!!! that should be enough to win the series and each test within 3 days!!!! sooo long england (and KP)!!!!! sorry reintegrated KP!!!!!!!!

  • POSTED BY Tahir_Anjum on | October 28, 2012, 12:58 GMT

    Dear Kohli professionals don't talk like this. What green tops??? Where Clarke and Ponting got 300 and 200??? really??? Sad to read your immature thoughts. I expected some good from you but.....!!!!!

  • POSTED BY bumsonseats on | October 28, 2012, 12:51 GMT

    dont often agree with meety but its true, indians idea of a green top is not mine or yours. england and australia like tests and the grounds like 5 days of cricket. we get relatively full houses for our cricket and dont want to play tests that finish in 3/4 days which if we prepare the so called greentops we would not get. we also do not order our groundsmen telling them what type of wickets to prepare. like in oz we prepare good cricketing wickets with a good covering of grass ( not green grass ) we might not in the uk be able to get the wickets as hard as in oz due to our weather. for instance 2005 ashes we are 1 up going to the oval what is the pitch like perfect for mr warne and in 2011 perfect for indias spinners not our fault that your spinners could not bowl on it.

  • POSTED BY cheguramana on | October 28, 2012, 12:42 GMT

    Nice to see some balanced and thoughtful comments from one of the younger players in the team. I had not followed ENG and AUS series that closely, dint realise our players got flat tracks and 120kph bowlers in practice matches and greentops in tests. So why are the English wailing now abt Indian welcome ? England after all, are the greatest Test team in the world, rite ? Unlike Indian Test team, they shud be able to adapt and play to win in any environment. Indians keep getting hammered for being poor tourists. This is a great opportunity for ENG to prove they are different (lets not talk too much rite now abt how they got hammered in UAE in Tests and in India in ODIs).

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 12:38 GMT

    People will come to know when india will pile up runs and england wil be struggling to get runs.. Well home condition will help the home team. So england piled up runs and india struggled in england.. So it is useless to say kholi is said something wrong...

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 12:31 GMT

    England fan here and I'm in total agreement with Virat. ANY international team should be able - and be expected to play in any conditions. That goes for both India and England.

    Personally, I'm hoping for a 'trial by fire' of spin against England. If England come out on top, it will be a real learning curve for them.

  • POSTED BY kunderanengineer on | October 28, 2012, 12:28 GMT

    As an Indian fan and a Kohli fan in particular I'm really getting tired of these excuses about performance based on types of pitches provided. Kohli says "we were given flattest of tracks during practice matches in England... and then suddenly presented with a green top during the Tests" The problem is that even on these "flattest of tracks" in England for practice matches they were busy being embarrassed by English county teams. Ironically on these "green tops" during the tests, with the exception of the last 2 Tests, as hard as it may be to believe,India did have the chance to at least hold their heads up high. At Lords they had England reeling at 107-6 in their 2nd innings but allowed Prior and Broad to add an extra 160 runs. Then in the 2nd Test England were 128-8 and Broad/Swann added another 100 or so runs. The problem with the team was lack of mental toughness in batting (notable exception Dravid) and inconsistent bowling. Blaming pitches is a defeatist attitude and must end.

  • POSTED BY itsthewayuplay on | October 28, 2012, 12:22 GMT

    First of all, presumably Dravid played on the flat tracks in the warm-ups and but scored 3 centuries on the green-tops, the most by any batsman on either side. Secondly, @me54321 this issue of substandard practice matches is not new for India visiting England. In the past, Indian batsmen have faced below club level quality bowlers but the biggest difference last year was that it wouldn't have a difference. I agree that whilst Eng were top of their game, Ind were unfit, unprofessional and plain incompetent. Kohli has a point though it's not up to India to provide adequate warm-up facilities. The mistake he has made and has shown immaturity by is going public with his views.

  • POSTED BY venkatesh018 on | October 28, 2012, 12:21 GMT

    Virat, India has every right to prepare turners against England, because that is the only surface MSD knows how to play cricket on and are the only surfaces in which India are assured of beating England. But be man enough and face up to facts. India lost to England 4-0 on flat batting pitches, not green tops !

  • POSTED BY Meety on | October 28, 2012, 12:14 GMT

    @rahulcricket007 on (October 28 2012, 10:06 AM GMT) - IMO the WACA wasn't Green, it doesn't need to be Green to be tricky. IMO the two greenest Test strips I have ever seen were last years pitches against NZ, with Hobarts the Greenest ever. It was amazing!

  • POSTED BY Meety on | October 28, 2012, 12:01 GMT

    @ counterstrike1.6 on (October 28 2012, 10:26 AM GMT) - personally I dislike the term "flat track" & the associated "flat track bully". I don't think Indian pitches are turning (in Tests) as much as they use to. I would say Indian pitches are LOW/SLOW pitches.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | October 28, 2012, 11:58 GMT

    @rahulcricket007 on (October 28 2012, 10:26 AM GMT) - technically none of the pitches for the Test series v India were green. The WACA often looks white when it is at its fastest. The two Green Tops last year were in the NZ tests in Brizzy & Tassie. There was help for the pace bowlers on all of the pitches if the bowlers really bent their backs. Yadav got some wickets as he was giving it his all, Zaheer & sadly Sharma weren't so strong, (although I believe Sharma was not 100%).

  • POSTED BY MOHDsarfaraz on | October 28, 2012, 11:43 GMT

    its easy to say thats excuse but when u r will be in that place than u know how though to play,1 week before i'hd play in Ukrain its very hard to play where did not u practice,its depends whose saying it Oneday player of the year it never can be excuse for a dedicated player,if they know thats excuse where u r ? i have'nt seen u playing in any forms of cricket,, I love cricket no meters from where it is,but Aus and Eng they r like ostrich they put there eyes in sand and think nobody will see them, wake up..................

  • POSTED BY me54321 on | October 28, 2012, 11:29 GMT

    thought Kohli had grown up a bit over the last year, but these are silly comments for reasons which many people have already mentioned. If India are going to blatantly sabotage the England warm-ups (no spinners? really?), and if they truly believe that England sabotaged their one solitary warm-up match, then perhaps it's about time their was some new ICC ruling on these warm-up games.

    And please India, you got beat by England, because at that time and in those conditions England were the better team. You got hammered by England because, your team prepared for and approached the series completely inadequately. Going on a revenge mission to avenge your own mistakes is a little childish

  • POSTED BY mcsdl on | October 28, 2012, 11:16 GMT

    Indians are average at best and same goes to English... So we will be witnessing 2 weak teams playing against each other... South Africa, Sri Lanka, Australia and even Pakistan are miles above these 2 medicore teams...!

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 11:14 GMT

    @thenoostar thats a pretty nonsense judgement. England cant be judged to be good team unless they win tests in Asia. Thats the real benchmark to rate teams. The dominant aussies did that and were rightly labeled the best. This english side was thrashed 3-0 by the Pakistanis in asian conditions. You cant label Cook/trott/KP to be good batters neither are Swann/Anderson and Finn good since they havent won England anything in Asia. Winning in one dimensional pitches is nothing to be proud of ;)

  • POSTED BY Mike_Tyson on | October 28, 2012, 11:10 GMT

    I think Kohli is a very very good player but I'm a big believer in letting the bat do the talking and right now I think that is what he should focus on. If he doesn't score in this series all this talk will come back to haunt him.

  • POSTED BY grizzle on | October 28, 2012, 10:57 GMT

    I'm as much a fan of Kohli as the next Indian, but it is just nonsense to say that Edgbaston (where England piled on 700) and Sydney (where Clarke scored his mammoth triple century) were green tops. Let's just call a spade a spade and concede that we as a country are desperate for some test wins against top Test nations and we are willing to go to any means necessary in order to do so. I am not entirely in agreement with this philosophy, since this will mean a weaker team in the long run (esp. outside India), but I see some merit in it given the 8-0 thrashing.

  • POSTED BY jazzaaaaaaaa on | October 28, 2012, 10:46 GMT

    I am not sure where Kohli is coming from here, sounds like they're still making excuses for themselves. Firstly India's warm up matches in Australia, they played against players who were fringe first class players. Their scores in the first games was 6/320 (CA chairmen: 6/398) and in the 2nd game: 269 (CA: 7/215) 2/90 (CA: 0/100). They don't seem like flat tracks to me and not only that, but struggled against those sides. Then in the Test matches, Australia's score's in the 4 tests were: 333, 240, 4/659, 369, 7/604 and 5/167. Two incomplete scores over 600, another two 300+ scores, and just one sub 200 score which was incomplete anyway. The pitches were green but not THAT green, the pitches are normally even greener at Sheffield Shield level. So to me Kohli has contradicted himself on two levels.

  • POSTED BY Lmaotsetung on | October 28, 2012, 10:37 GMT

    LMAO @ Kohli calling the pitches he faced in England last year green-tops. So the ball bounces above the knee and carries better to the keeper than in the sub continent does not make the pitches India played on last year "green-tops". Maybe Kohli should look at the scoreboard first before he open his mouth or maybe he was so traumatized that he had some sort of memory loss. Eng had innings of 474, 544. 710 (OUCH!), and 591 on so called green-tops. Either England batsmen are the greatest ever or Indian bowlers are the worst ever. Even military medium pacers can wreak havoc on true green-tops.

  • POSTED BY Porky_PigTheToon on | October 28, 2012, 10:26 GMT

    @ thenoostar and 'many like you' - I don't understand the theory of Flat tracks and Fast Tracks ? Why u ppl call sub-continent tracks of Ind, Pak, BD and SL as Flat Tracks ? They are "Spinning Tracks". Just like - Warner and Clarke (who scored tons of runs there in Aus against Ind as u mentioned ) are habitual of playing on fast Tracks be it against any fast-bowling-attack..Similarly Ind batsmen are habitual of playing on Spinning tracks be it against any Spin-Bowling-attack. Even I can say that county level batsmen of Ind, SL and Pak wouldn't be scared of facing Swann anywhere nowadays.

    If even Hirwani can pick 10 wickets (As you said), what happens to your Spin bowlers then ? Can they not get Ind batsmen out ? I mean come on ! If Ind spinners can get your team out why not your spinners do the needful even when pitches in Ind turn at will ?

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | October 28, 2012, 10:26 GMT

    i think only melbourne & perth pitch was green top , pitches of sydeny & adelaide were flat wkts . but our openers can't even survive on these pitches also . THE HIGHEST OPENING PARTNERSHIP FOR INDIA WAS JUST 27 IN THE WHOLE TOUR . HOW CAN YOU EXPECT A TEAM CONTAINING SO FRAGILE OPENERS TO WIN OR DREW MATCHES ?

  • POSTED BY Juiceoftheapple on | October 28, 2012, 10:24 GMT

    Thats right Kohli, the ECB asked Somerset to make Taunton a lifeless batting track, thats Taunton, one of the best batting wickets in the country, then asked them to move the stands in to make the boundaries shorter, one of the already smallest grounds, then Somerset's ferocious 19 and 20 year old academy bowlers and ageing seamers bowled pies for 2 innings whereupon the Indian galacticos made huge easy runs, well er, nearly lost a 2 innings match inside 3 days. They approached the match as competitively as if it were a charity bash, and got their bottoms spanked by players deemed not good enough for the IPL. They set their own tone for the series and got walloped. End of. And for what its worth, the English should expect to play on whatever pitches the Indians want to prepare for them, its all part of the game, and the discussion about this tradition is just dull.

  • POSTED BY WickyRoy.paklover on | October 28, 2012, 10:18 GMT

    @CounterSrike 1.6,i think U r over.estimating Ojha,let him perform against poms ist,till then Rehman z way betr than him 4 now.2NDLY WE DN'T RATE HAFEEZ "THE BATSMAN" BT WE as well as ICC DEFINITLY RATE Him very highly as a bowler bcoz aftrall maintaining RPO OF LESS THAN 4 INSPITE OF BOWLNG IN BATNG POWERPLAY Z NO SHORT OF AN ACHEIVMENT.

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | October 28, 2012, 10:13 GMT

    Wrong KOHLI. 100% wrong. Loss after loss. coach did nothing. Captain did nothing. What is the use of coach india going to lose? i think dhoni and coach undermined india , the plan is put tthe pressure on senior batsman or retire. Coach and Captain now gunning for sehwag Real pathetic. Duncan fletcher is 100% greg chappell second coming. Great brain and too much politics and bad game strategy. Duncan fletcher is more theorist just like greg chappel. India will continue to lose against top teams as long as duncan fletcher is incharge. In india india can win even that won't be guaranteed. Some time people know the prolem but people in charge take long time to take the decision to fire the coach. Wait and see.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 10:09 GMT

    The series will not just be a test for England's sub-par batsmen(excl Pietersen), but also for their pacers, who are barely anything but mediocre & are doomed to weep on pitches which do not heavily assist them. WRT the Eng side piling up runs when India failed to do so last year, home advantage goes a long way in helping do that. Let's wait & watch for the same thing to happen in a couple of weeks when the Indian batsmen score runs by the bucketful while England get bowled out cheaply all the time. A thrashing is imminent for Eng, but a whitewash depends on KP's ability to rescue them. If he starts playing like he did in SL, then Eng may manage to save some face. Regarding comments about the "final frontier", Waugh's side had beaten all other teams away & were on a record winning streak. Eng, on the other hand, have narrowly avoided a whitewash at home, again due to KP. It may sound like a broken record to keep mentioning KP saving their behinds, but Eng without him sound much worse!

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | October 28, 2012, 10:06 GMT

    @meety . i think he did play a test at perth . although you are talking about hovart pitch but perth pitch was also tricky india made 160 & 170 there , aus made 360 but we all know out of aus 's 360 , warner scored 180 . so except warner & kohli who scored 75 all batmen struggled at that pitch .

  • POSTED BY WickyRoy.paklover on | October 28, 2012, 10:03 GMT

    @Sai krishna,@ParminderPal singh,AS PER Stats,facts n figures,THE LAST TIME SAFAS PLAYD PAK,THEY WERE JUST ABLE TO DRAW A SERIES AGAINST PAK AT UAE,DUBAI,SCORLINE WAS 0-0 N ANY TEAM THAT COULD HAV EMERGED AS VICTORIES WAS PAK BT MISBAH CHOSE "TO PLAY IT SAFE",IN THE LIGHT OF ABOUE I DN'T THINK ANY TEAM Z STRONG ENUFF TO BEAT PAK IN TESTS AT THOSE PARTICULAR VENUES,BE IT SA,ENG AUS OR IND.....REFERRING TO GREEN TOPS,I THINK DIS Z A PARTICULAR SURFRACE AT WHICH SUBCNTINENTAL BATSMEN WOULD STRUGL TO SCORE 150+ 9 out 10 times,in reply, pak bowlers would b gd enuf to restrict other side wel within 150 to 200,for indian bowling jst add 150 to this restricted score

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | October 28, 2012, 10:03 GMT

    @last ride . well said .

  • POSTED BY Porky_PigTheToon on | October 28, 2012, 9:58 GMT

    @ KiwiRocker- - Somewhat agree with you. But you should be thankful to Kohli that he is calling Ajmal a Quality Spinner despite the fact that Kohli has thrashed Ajmal every time they faced each other. And Hafeez is better spinner than Ashwin ? One of the funniest comments I ever came across ! In fact, nowadays it seems that Ashwin even bats better than Hafeez. And about Rehman - Well he and Ojha are Equal ! Not much turn - Just wicket to wicket. Point is Kohli always speaks his mind and dare I say he is more mature than Sehwag when it comes to press conferences and never underestimates others unlike Sehwag. You may see it this way - Kohli is Naughty Batsman.:)

  • POSTED BY thenoostar on | October 28, 2012, 9:53 GMT

    Couldnt agree with @KiwiRocker more. You can't claim to be a great cricketer until you have won tests for your team in Aus, SA and Eng. Kohli hasn't done this yet so he is speaking above his station.

    At home, India could bring back Hirwani and he would still take 10 wickets... maybe 7 now there are 2 neutral umpires. Jeetan Patel recently took wickets in India much to every NZ fans surprise. If you make pitches so bad that the result comes down to luck, the home team usually wins. New Zealand odis at home ended like this in the early 90's. The terrors of Gavin Larsen...please.

    This was not the case in India's recent away series, The wickets in AUS can't be that bad if Clarke and Warner can smash it to all parts. England didn't have too many problems batting on their pitches but then again, most club players wouldn't be too scared lining up against Zaheer these days.

  • POSTED BY GRVJPR on | October 28, 2012, 9:51 GMT

    India will give england more spinners in second warm up only if they prove that they can play part time spin of Yuvraj and raina well in first warm up game. So first prove you can play the part timers well and then ask for international class spinners

  • POSTED BY Meety on | October 28, 2012, 9:30 GMT

    @Warren Smith - would of loved to see Kholi's face if he had to play on the Green Monster that was Bellreive during the 2nd Test between Oz & NZ. You couldn't tell what was the outfield & what was the actual pitch!

  • POSTED BY cricket9lover on | October 28, 2012, 9:01 GMT

    In present situation I would like to see shikhar dhawan and rahane opening and including ishant,yadav & awana/pathan as pacers,ashwin ojha bhajji as spinners if selectors really think to do some good to indian cricket then select them for test cricket when selected then only will we know which pair is good gambhir sehwag or dhawan rahane,mind it rahane and dhawan are good puller and hooker good signs to succeed overseas.Though gambhir and sehwag are still good in one dayers.

  • POSTED BY Last_ride on | October 28, 2012, 8:59 GMT

    Why dont Australia , England prepare Green tracks for South Africa.I wish they could because me being a saffer we would love to be playing in green tracks. Hehe the other teams will get destroyed.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 8:53 GMT

    I think India should use these 2 - 3 years of home tours, to give the youngsters proper experience for the future. I personally feel, that Sachin Tendulkar who is without any doubt one of the Best Batsman in the world, should retire like Dravid, to give the youngsters enough time for the future. Also I dont think Sehwag has a future in the longer form of the game. Also Gambhir has to either fix his technique or leave the Test team. According to me Dhoni should hang around in tests for sometime, and give either Virat Kohli or Suresh Raina tips and time for captaincy. Also i would really like if Dinesh Karthik would start getting serious and start fighting for a place in the test team. In the future, I think our test team should be... Ajikya Rahane, Murali Vijay or Shikhar Dhawan, Chetashwar Pujara, Virat Kohli, Rohit Sharma, Suresh Raina, Dinesh Karthik, Irfan Pathan, Ravichandran Ashwin, Umesh Yadav, Ishant Sharma or Ashok Dinda or Munaf Patel or Praveen Kumar.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 8:38 GMT

    Now thats a mature statement from a mature player.. People just because he is in the so called 'zone', that doesnt mean he'll talk girbish.. He has set high benchmarks for himself and is consistent.. Rousing form, in the zone, etc just make him appear like another Sharma, Raina, etc who come in 'rousing form' only in IPL..

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 8:37 GMT

    Haha - is Kohli suffering from amnesia? Scores of 474/8d, 544, 710/7d, and 591/6d hardly suggest green tops. Mental.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 8:07 GMT

    except sa any team in world cant have ability to win series in sub continent

  • POSTED BY Neeta on | October 28, 2012, 8:05 GMT

    Ones who are saying that we have not given any spinners to the Pommies for the warm-up game are absolutely wrong. We have given them Yuvraj Singh and Suresh Raina to face along with the four pacers. If Pommies play them well, then good luck to them. If not then we can imagine what is going to happen to them in the Indian Winter. Now on the article, it just happened that the Indian batsmen's poor form coincided with the good form of the Aussies and the English bowlers. They were consistent in their line and lengths which built up the pressure resulting in wickets. Also, the Indian batsmen were not patient enough with one or two exceptions on the tours. I will just ask the fans to keep faith with the players and the performers they are, they will also be geared up for the future challenges as no one likes his country to lose and when they step out on the field they will be raring to go. I am sure we will be seeing Sehwag and Gambhir in top form along with SRT demolishing the Englishmen!!

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 7:52 GMT

    Well, I think it's about who's on who's side. Everybody wants favourable conditions everywhere. No doubt that england have struggled against spin and India against Pace. But in overseas conditions only. Everyone's a lion in its own backyard. As per my view, Australia and to a great extent SA, are only teams deserving to be number one as they win everywhere. And if they lose, they give their opponents run for their money. Hence, for me this issue is just another spice in the bigger gamut of the game of Cricket!

  • POSTED BY Clive_Dunn on | October 28, 2012, 7:49 GMT

    I remember the days when Dravid and Sachin came across to England to play in the county championship for the experience of playing against a moving ball. The young Indian "stars" of today seem more interested in complaining about foreign conditions rather than adapting to them - it doesn't bode well for the next generation of Indian tourists. And to suggest the test pitches in England last year were greentops is to really not understand what a greentop is.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 7:43 GMT

    @ kiwirocker. ur comments r absolutely meaningless. just check the statastics. india has occupied no1 position in tests. much more longer than england.

  • POSTED BY dumca.shobhit on | October 28, 2012, 7:18 GMT

    In complete agreement with Virat here, why give sporting pitches when Spin is our strength and others weakness. You always win battles by exploiting others weaknesses and India, or for that matter, any other country is not doing any unfair job by playing to their strength. England did it when we toured, Aussies did that...if 0-8 scoreline means it is India who cannot play pace, then it should be test of Eng and Aussies to prove that they can play spin...Plain and simple.

  • POSTED BY Jith_blore on | October 28, 2012, 7:10 GMT

    On the story of Pak Vs ENG,,,Pak really had two quality spinners more than India,,,Similarly i believe IND have atleast 2 quality batsmen more than Pak.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 7:07 GMT

    @kiwirocker... so u expect the indians to be silent and just play and let the others play these mind games ...... kohli , this is the way to go..let the bat talk and play mind games... against australia n england, their is no pbm in playing mind games.....

  • POSTED BY KeithGun on | October 28, 2012, 7:05 GMT

    Kohli's reasoning for two 4-0 whitewashes within a matter of 8 months or so in England and downunder, is laughable, to say the least. Ok, the tracks prepared for practice matches were not seamer-friendly, so you lost the 1st test due to you being deprived of proper practice, fine, fair enough.Then you guys had ample time to get necessary match practice during the 1st test on a green-top wicket against quality fast bowlers and perform better in the remaining 3 matches.. what happened was opposite .. it became worse as the series progressed ... besdies, all the tracks weren't green-tops, there were batting-friendly/flack tracks .. the simple fact is that your batters were outdone by 02 quality pace bowling units who were skillful enough to exploit local conditions and weaknesses of your batters. And let me add that your tactic of not fielding any spinners for the practice matches against England, will only bring more nightmares to your team when touring England, good luck against Eng

  • POSTED BY Marsh_aussie on | October 28, 2012, 6:58 GMT

    Contd.... Also, If I remember right, Australia has won their last 2 series in Srilanka (including 1 when Murali, Vaas & Jayasuriya were in the team) and their last series in Pakistan and also the last test series in Sharjah. Australia is not so incapable in sub-continent like England are. The most important factor against spin is to be agressive & decisive. Eg: Hayden & Andy Flower. That's why i think KP could be the difference between England getting Thumped and Standing the ground.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 6:56 GMT

    Dear Kiwi Rocker, On what basis did you say haffez and the other pakistani guy r better than ashiwin or ojha/ ashiwn and ojha. Did you not see the way Ashwin bowled in Australia? He might not have taken too many wickets nor did his team win but the way he bowled against all odds showed his stomach for battle.

  • POSTED BY hnlns on | October 28, 2012, 6:55 GMT

    It is fine for Kohli to say this because he is in such rousing form now, but the same cannot be said of other batsmen in Indian team. They are bound to have a torrid time against Swann who is among the best spinners in cricket today. That's why India have to be realistic and provide some encouraging pitches for their seamers too, rather than going totally with spinners. Also, reasons like Indians were given green tops in test matches is completely unfounded since England scored near-700 total and Aussies scored 650+ on the same pitches where the Indian batting looked clueless. It was more due to the ineptness of Indian batting against bouncing ball that caused the embarrassment in those two nightmarish tours, exception being Kohli who was all class even in alien conditions. Also, it showed Indian bowlers in very poor light because they could not take even get all wickets in those two innings. Alistair Cook and Michael Clark both showed how to bat in such conditions.

  • POSTED BY RISHI2016 on | October 28, 2012, 6:54 GMT

    well i think if the english players were given spinners to play at first place, and a rookie spinner like jalaj saxena would have dented their confidence more.. i think its time a bowler like dinda should be blooded in the indian team as second seamer, he has been in brilliant form and one should not judge him with his t20 and odi performance ... ojha n ashwin along wd yuvi wld break them...

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | October 28, 2012, 6:53 GMT

    Dear Kohli, if Indian batsmen fail abroad, our technique will be questioned. If visiting batsmen fail in India, our pitches will be questioned. Kohli, don't you know that, that's how the visiting teams continue to think and obviously visiting teams kept doing poorly in India and England in particular haven't won on our soil since 1984? But I think this series is going to be 2-0 or 3-0 for England, thanks to Sehwag, Gambhir, Statchin and Raina's horrible form.

  • POSTED BY pvwadekar on | October 28, 2012, 6:48 GMT

    This is very good and very mature reply from Kohli. Why should we give any quarter or opportunity to the foreign teams ? Everything is fair in lover and war. We can let our A teams tour the the other countries and let them play on fast pitches or prepare fast pitches for domestic tournaments. The English in particular have a habit of looking down on other countries .. and deserve this treatment.

  • POSTED BY LillianThomson on | October 28, 2012, 6:47 GMT

    Kohli will make a terrific after-dinner speaker once his cricket career is over. He seems to have overlooked the rather inconvenient fact that England has the best two spin bowlers on either side - as well as the best four fast bowlers - and if he thinks that the pitches in England were "green-tops" than bowlers in South Africa and New Zealand must be counting down the days until his next visit.

  • POSTED BY Marsh_aussie on | October 28, 2012, 6:47 GMT

    Every one who are making comments here should note one thing. Australia in India is not the same as England in India or India in Australia. Australia did lose test series in India. But we must admit that the matches were close than the results show. It is not that they were thumped every time they turned up in India. Also the last series victory for Australia in India came in 2004 which is just 8 years ago. Can anyone tell me when was the last time India won a series in Australia and England won a series in India. Please don't put Australia in the same bracket with India & England.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 6:43 GMT

    Kohli - youve never seen a greentop. This generation has rarely if ever seen one. Those were fair wickets where bowlers ha a chance. Indian batsmen simply have forgotten how to play on them. Greentops are green and if you ever batted on one it wouldnt last. I agree with your statement though. Theres noting wrong with preparing spinning wickets at home. Just not dust bowls - the slow bowlers equivalent of a green top. Its odd to see that Kohlis comments are generally very angry - almost hateful - i hope he doesnt succumb to that. Hes a great talent on abit of a rocky road at the moment.

  • POSTED BY CricIndia208 on | October 28, 2012, 6:37 GMT

    Kohli is thebest batsman in the world.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 6:37 GMT

    Kiwi Rocker …true India lost 0-8 and it is one of the biggest loses ever but England had similar losses before Duncan Fletchers tenture …I recall a 36 all out in West Indies.. infact England were the whipping boys in the sub continent. England have played good consistent test cricket for a period of one year or so and deserve to be No1 test team but to justify their status they have to beat the sub continent team at home. Kohli is no Richards but neither are England the Australia of Macgrath Warne Waugh Era or the West Indies of the Lyoyd Era. If only the BCCI would utilize its resources in preparing good pitches for the Ranji trophy instead of indulging in Tamasha events like the Champions Trophy would India regains its No1 Status.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 6:35 GMT

    A bundle of nice words by an Indian star. I like his attitude and facts. That shows he is definitely understand the game. As far as conditions is concerned then its very simple as that it should favour the locals. There is a general misconception in world cricket that green pitches made cricket more contestable compare to spinning tracks. The reason behind is that in general a team comprise more number of fast bowlers compare to number of spinners and on turning tracks fast bowlers gets defensive very early. Art of Spin is hard to learn and very hard to implement compare to fast bowling. So if any team have good bundle of spinners then they should prepare turning tracks. As a spectator i want a hell out of contest between the teams but i also watched those eight test match defeats so from that point of view i want to see revenge by Indian team.

    All the best kohli you have to play a big role in upcoming season.

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | October 28, 2012, 6:33 GMT

    @Handy87, can't agree more with you. Yes, Indian bowling was horrendous. To think that Dhoni was bowling in test matches on an away tour, sums up the quality of bowling that England had to negotiate in that series.

  • POSTED BY GerrardLK on | October 28, 2012, 6:17 GMT

    Even with turning tracks, India wont even win a single match. They're that poor in Test cricket.

  • POSTED BY devil_in_details on | October 28, 2012, 6:11 GMT

    Whatever Virat or dhoni may say, the truth is Indian pitches have always been good for batting with slow turn and this is not going to change in this series as well. And this has been so for the last couple of decades barring few exceptions. Accordingly these comments of Virat are good mindgames but I would not be expecting any 'turners' for this series being produced overnight.

  • POSTED BY devil_in_details on | October 28, 2012, 6:04 GMT

    Well said virat, learning the mind games quickly indeed. Now you are all set to be the next captain:)

  • POSTED BY Dr.wolfenstein on | October 28, 2012, 6:03 GMT

    I see a future captain in Kohli...Somebody as aggressive as SOURAV

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 6:00 GMT

    @foreigners, why can't you understand that what visiting teams are going to face turning pitches and those will play india also. Cricket is tactical game, In eng&aus, they weren't produced spin pitches bcoz their strength is pace but they have world best spinner swann. Here, there is no support for swinging ( subcontinents are fully hot no swing), but eng,aus are fully clouded and swinging conditions plus too cold and need to adjust that weather. If you guys are debating this continuously... god bless you.......

  • POSTED BY TheGecko on | October 28, 2012, 5:59 GMT

    I am Indian and I don't agree to a single word of what Kohli has said. But I like it that he is saying such things! The mind games have begun, what fun!

  • POSTED BY yogesh.gg on | October 28, 2012, 5:55 GMT

    KiwiRocker- on (October 28 2012, 03:19 AM GMT) : Mate, India was No.1 for 20 months , whereas Eng were there for not even 1 year.When we were No.1 we did won in WI,SL and drew against SA.India had beaten Eng in 2007 in Eng , and when Eng won in India last time ? 1985 right ? Let's leave the comparison of spinners for now and we will find it out very soon where we all stand. Just remember your comment and don't go hiding when our spinners would maul Eng batting lineup.Cheers!

  • POSTED BY screamingeagle on | October 28, 2012, 5:53 GMT

    @Kiwirocker..England has been No.1 longer than India was? Someone needs maths lessons, I think. As far as spinning tracks go, why not? What is sad is that there are plans to try and improve the Indian batting on fast and bouncy tracks. Maybe A team tours, spicing up the domestic match tracks etc, I guess.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 5:46 GMT

    @Shariq Babar. We've lots of talent left to replace the greats like Sachin,Drvaid, Lax etc.. Kohli/Pujara/Rahane/Rohit are ready to take over from them. So don't worry about India. Worry about your own team which is dependent only on one player Ajmal. No decent batsmen, Surprisingly no fast bowlers coming up.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | October 28, 2012, 5:45 GMT

    I think Kholi is potentially going to be the greatest Indian batsmen of all time (whether he does or not is debatable). That said, who does he think he is fooling regarding flat pitches in Oz? They got bundled out for 269 in the 3-day match & were 2/14 in the second innings! LOL! Kholi needs to belt up & let his talented batting do the talking. India performed poorly in the practise matches & that flowed onto the Tests. Oz obliged India by having Bollinger & George in the Chairmans XI match, it was fair & square. Kholi was the only Indian batsmen to do well in that game, but given the failures of his teammates - is he saying that they failed on a flat track??????

  • POSTED BY CricketFanIndUS on | October 28, 2012, 5:39 GMT

    England played really well and India did not. There are other factors like the crazy schedule not allowing for enough practice matches and being less prepared. Add a couple of injuries to it and very good test cricket from England, we got a 0-4 loss. I would rather see our players talk a little less and perform well on the field. India team should get better playing swing bowling at higher speeds. I did not like the fact that no well known spinner is in India A playing the warm up match, it just looks crass and is unnecessary. I personally do not like to see too many balls directed at the body of a batsman, especially short pitch ones on swinging/bouncy pitches. This can result in many injuries and if the other team follows suit, it can become ugly cricket. I would rather see good cricket where the spotlight is on skills and not crass tactics.

  • POSTED BY just_chill_chill on | October 28, 2012, 5:31 GMT

    @KiwiRocker Kohli belongs to a team that has won 2 world cups in 5yrs, and was No.1 not so long ago. Kohli himself has butchered bowlers from Aus, Sri Lanka etc. in their own conditions. And by the way, Kohli has Ajmal, Rehman, etc for breakfast. Rehman, Ajmal etc belong to a team that is world renowned for choking. There's no team in the living memory whose bowlers are over-rated like those from Pakistan. If you look at neutral cricket pundits, nobody gives two hoots about Pakistan bowling, and they rate Indian bowling much higher than Pakistan's because in the end you have to win big tournaments, and not keep choking.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 5:27 GMT

    Mr.KiwiRocker Get your facts right. India was no. 1 longer than England. Hafeez a better spinner than Ashwin and Ojha? Does he consider himself a genuine spinner and a wicket taker? If Hafeez is a spinner than yuvraj is also a great spinner. Hafeez is no more than a part time spinner.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 5:26 GMT

    Well.....i'd agree with Virat... return the favor boys.

  • POSTED BY srinideva on | October 28, 2012, 5:26 GMT

    The ground selection for this series is ridiculous. Since ahamadabad and (nagpur-not sure) is a worst stadium in terms of pitch to play test match. If the idea is to play with turning tracks then they should have go to delhi.chennai,kolkata and mumbai. test matches should be played in these locations only to get a proper results. May be we can include other stadiums for low profile matches... I do not think eng will get a real turner in this series...

  • POSTED BY moBlue on | October 28, 2012, 5:20 GMT

    @KiwiRocker: you like 'em all quiet, eh? ...and as you say, it is okay for mcGrath to yap his head off before each and every series because he could get sachin out every time? really? check sachin's and VVS's records in AUS in 2003 first so we can at least agree on "facts"! ...and no, kohli - or IND fans - will not and should not shut up and keep quiet! good for kohli! fair is fair. it has been eons since i've seen AUS and ENG teams have the ability to play spin bowling in IND or SL... bhajji made a mockery of the so-called AUS team of the century who had won 14 on the trot in 2001! so yes, i am all for testing them again, this time on spinner-friendly tracks, unlike in 2001 when ponting became bhajji's bunny! can ponting play, according to your logic? :)

  • POSTED BY omairhr on | October 28, 2012, 5:18 GMT

    Why don't they make a few spinning tracks in England and green tops in India for respective teams to practice on? It ain't rocket science, is it?

  • POSTED BY moBlue on | October 28, 2012, 5:11 GMT

    finally!!! someone who has the guts to say it like it is!!! make this dude our vice captain, please! since 2001 SA tour, i have smarted at the "green tops" IND are routinely greeted with when we travel to SA, AUS and ENG - after having *zero* practice on similar pitches! - and yet, IND indulge the same teams when they visit by giving them the gift of mohali [which is quick]!!! if it were up to me, all three of them would open their indian misadventure at the kotla each and every series! :) then let us hear them yap about our batters not knowing how to play! :)

  • POSTED BY spec12 on | October 28, 2012, 5:11 GMT

    What goes around, comes around! This is a cycle that could only get worse with every move and counter move. There is something called the "spirit of the game" and the ICC needs to ensure that it is not violated. If the custodians of this game, do not care, we will not have cricket itself sometime down the future.

  • POSTED BY SoulTaker on | October 28, 2012, 5:05 GMT

    @KiwiRocker: Better check ur statistics and then comment about Ind or Eng were in the No.1 position for a long time. We were hammered in Eng and Aus and I accept that but before that we nearly won the test series in SA and have won matches in WI and we played better cricket around the world...Eng lost the number 1 position to SA at home ground how embarrassing is that. U better look at ur own team which is pathetic rather than commenting about other teams..if we say Saeed ajmal is the only better bowler in Pak thats because we play better cricket against Pakistan than anyother team in the world..check the statistics...and BTW there is no one called "Tendulya" in our team..lol

  • POSTED BY vrn59 on | October 28, 2012, 4:49 GMT

    A lot of the comments on this thread discuss the 'Indian team of old'. We have got to understand that our current Test side is in a transition state, and things will be different for a while. Sourav Ganguly, Anil Kumble, Rahul Dravid and VVS Laxman have retired. Zaheer Khan's age and fitness are matters of concern. Harbhajan Singh is out of form, and seems to have forgotten how to take Test wickets. Gautam Gambhir and Virender Sehwag have been in bad touch for two years now, and Sachin Tendulkar is not the same great batsman he used to be in his prime. MS Dhoni's Test captaincy is poor and his batting technique is incorrect. None of the young fast bowlers are good enough yet, and the young spinners aren't mysterious enough. The batting looks slightly better, but apart from Virat Kohli, no other batsman has really stamped his authority yet. We need to give our young players time and leeway until they find their feet at Test level. Unnecessary criticism from media and fans will not help.

  • POSTED BY dinosaurus on | October 28, 2012, 4:47 GMT

    I'm nearly 75 years old and, with only a couple of exceptions, Australian pitches have kept their quality consistent for many decades. Brisbane used to be a flat wicket until about 30 years ago, when the pitch was totally relaid. The "drop-in" pitches at the MCG (necessitated by the shared use of the ground for AFL) were pretty terrible until they got used to managing them. And the WACA isn't as fearsome as it was (probably caused by the re-alignment of the wicket block). The SCG favours pace, spin and batting at different stages of the game. And Adelaide is a batter's wicket until late in the game. All this is true regardless of the supposed strengths and/or weaknesses in the visiting team.

  • POSTED BY Hippiantor on | October 28, 2012, 4:43 GMT

    Only Perth was a greentop and that was the 3rd Test. They also could have asked for practice matches if they felt as though they would be under prepared. Look how England prepared themselves for the Ashes last time. It seems that subcontinental cricket players & followers are so paranoid about anything with grass and also of any criticism of their home conditions.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 4:43 GMT

    i have lost a great deal of the respect i had for Kohli before reading his statements. Thought he was captaincy material but it appears he is only good at making excuses like Dhoni. If the pitches the 8 games were played on were green tops how come the oppositions batsmen scored so many runs or Is India's bowling attack so very pathetic ? Ponting's 130 odd was the lowest of the 11 highest scores made vs india on tours since march last year. there were 4 scores of 150+ made by the likes of Hussey, Warner & Bell + a whopping 5 double centuries & a triple century by Micheal Clarke that had he not mercifully declared may well have broken Lara's test & 1st class record. All of those runs made on green tops? Kohli needs 2 get either his vision or his pitch reading skills checked urgently.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 4:39 GMT

    Different climate / soil conditions produce different wickets..and it is perfectly fine for the home team to use certain venues against certain opposition..that iw why winning abroad is a challenge. The issue is when a normal venue is chosen and then doctored..think Mumbai v Aus in '04, and Kanpur v SA later..those were not normal conditions for those venues. what we saw in Eng and Aus were std for those venues..we got uquite flat one in Sydney / Adelaide as per norm..

  • POSTED BY sandeepgla on | October 28, 2012, 4:26 GMT

    One thing i cant understand is that when visiting team bowled out for around 150 in England and south Africa no one make fuss about it and questioning batsmen techniques and ability of playing fast bowling but when touring team done the same in India everybody talks about the substandard pitches and all.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 4:22 GMT

    Well I support Sandeep Patil ..Its the right move and a tactical one.. for years we have seen that a visiting team gets better with every match on foreign soil..so its better to nail them in beginning of a tour.. ultimately its how many test matches we have won against each other.. Though I would ideally like to see a seaming track in Nagpur and Kolkata but why they don't offer us any when we visit their country ... I would like teams give touring teams give two spinning tracks and two seaming tracks on any tour.. to honestly claim the no 1 spot in test rankings.. does anyone possess the courage to do so...let see bellsl the cat..

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 4:21 GMT

    Whats left in india batting? Dravid and vvvvvsssss lax retired. Gambir sachin sewag out of form, yuvi still under cancer treatment. Bhajji and zaheer are out of variety, i see it's a one side match meaning eng will have the uper hand

  • POSTED BY x_lnc on | October 28, 2012, 4:09 GMT

    It won't be any surprise the pitches will be tailor made for the spinners, when England and Australians comes to bat, its the ball thatl hit the bat.

  • POSTED BY MVKD on | October 28, 2012, 4:08 GMT

    @stephen kisson yeah they dont complain but they keep whining in english media that they were provided with poor pitches. coz according to them turning tracks are poor and bouncing tracks are great.

  • POSTED BY truebleue_cricfan on | October 28, 2012, 3:55 GMT

    @rosstheicon and othello22, these turning tracks will be the very same pitches where India will score 600 and Englad will struggle to get 300.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 3:52 GMT

    I think Kohli has been logical when he said that India fumbled because of wrong mode of match practice in Flat wickets which really never allowed them to work out on green tops and i also understand the difference in between a 120 KMPH and 145 KMPH bolwer! Without criticizing his comments, we should understand the logic behind his remarks! This guy has a good analytical brain too!

  • POSTED BY andrew27994 on | October 28, 2012, 3:32 GMT

    Kohli is right that we should prepare spinning tracks but please don't give excuses about the pitches prepared in England and Australia. In my opinion, some of the pitches they prepared were flat like in SCG and The Oval. The problem was that our batsmen could not handle the pace and swing of their bowlers. And in the Australian tour, just look at Gambhir, Dravid and Laxman's technique. How can you expect them to do well if they bat like that.

    And just notice the difference in the consistency of our bowlers with England's or Australia's. Our bowlers would always bowl at least 2 bad balls an over and take the pressure from their batsmen. I don't blame the team selection but its just that they didn't prepare well.

  • POSTED BY KiwiRocker- on | October 28, 2012, 3:19 GMT

    These are rather poor comments. Virat Kohli has done well in recent times and he is definitely a promising batsmen, however, playing few good innings here and there does not make him Sir Viv Richards or Brian Lara. Kohli has to let his bat talk instead of opening his big mouth. He seems to suffer form the same thing that Sehwag does by making premature assumptions. England have been a No.1 team longer than India ever achieved. England actually won test matches outside India that had one of worse hammering 8-0 any test playing nation in living memory hard. If one if Glenn McGrath who can get Tendulya out everytime then surely one can go around and start playing mind games, but Kohli is not in that class ( well not yet). His statement Pakistan having one quality spinner is non sense. Abdur Rehman and Hafeez are miles ahead than the likes of Ashwin and Ojha on anyday. Lets do not even mention Saeed Ajmal. Kohli should learn from likes of Dravid and Laxman who quitely did their business!

  • POSTED BY Mr.Fox on | October 28, 2012, 2:48 GMT

    The issue here, as I see it, isn't whether India ought to be able produce spinning pitches for a Test series and England produce green pitches. There is a debate to be had there, sure, but the question for me is how decent it is for India A to contain no spinners as a tactic to thwart England's warmup. Kohli may or may not be right about England produce flat pitches for the warmups in England, but the English certainly didn't field an attack comprised of nothing but spinners to deprive India the chance of facing pace until the Tests. That would be the equivalent, and in my view India's approach in this regard is far from laudable.

  • POSTED BY ifrakurshid on | October 28, 2012, 2:33 GMT

    IN a way kholi is right but the spin is not new 2 english men nor the much talk doosra or reserve swing on flat pitches i remember in early sixties now so called speciality was known at grass root level & was in pratice without any media support eg karachi & lahore gymkhana cricketers hub & tussle & its development good & bad as well but its was who managed it 2 display on international scene & get it legalised & accepted. the trick & knowlede is known. famous azmat rana brothers when lahaore was not developed enough younger days of hanif mohd these cricketers used 2 come for learning earn bread & butter in karachi 1962-3 i met RANA while praticing doosra with a handbag dressed in whites & bata shoes bat in hand asking/searching 4 a room on rent in PIB colony KARACHI i said we will help u but lets test your batting skill with tennis ball we fired a over of doosra on him & he was unable 2 play. he was directed to taslim arif 4 help.Yet 2 C DEVELOPMENT OF KNOCKING OUT 3 WKTS BY SPIN

  • POSTED BY dock_haul on | October 28, 2012, 2:31 GMT

    well i fail to understand the point of mr. Virat referring to Pakistan's whitewash as a one man demolition act?? as far as i can recall Abdul Rehman equally , even if not properly credited for that , contributed .and in fact they won the second match being bowled out for less than a 100 in first innings , and if i correctly recall , Abdul Rehman was the chief destroyer in the 4th innings with 6 wickets.and btw pitches in U.A.E. were mostly supporting wickets.so credit should be given to Pakistani spinners for generating spin on wickets where mr. Swann was unable to impress before the 3rd match. secondly i agree with majority that any one who watched Indian's losing those series would agree that those tracks were not green tops but certainly in most of the Indian batsmen's minds they were.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 2:19 GMT

    I think I agree with Sriraj's comment on Kohli. He is a much better batsman than a thinker.

    Kohli's comments would have been ideal after 4-0 win against English with regard to turning piches.

    The losses they made in Aus and Eng were bad and excuses cannot be justified.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 2:00 GMT

    India may fare better than England in these 'rank-turners', but why should England be worried? They(Eng) have got Swann and I'd rank him better than Ashwin and Ojha, When he's bowling, he's sure to get three wickets every game- that too the left handers in our line-up. Plus, he's the artist who is used to unresponsive pitches back home. If he does not live up to his reputation, the Poms will remain a no-show in the sub-continent.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 1:56 GMT

    Mostly agree with Kohli coz when India or Pak tour England what we get is seaming and swinging conditions. and English would proudly say subcontinent batsmen are not as good on green tops as they are on Asian tracks. But the reality is English batsmen can't play spinners well and they don't have any way out against spinners and spinner friendly conditions. When ur touring, u have to play in any conditions presented by home side. Im a Pakistani, but I love Virat Kohli's batting and attitude. I wish we could have one like him in Pak team. And I hope he doesn't score much against Pakistan in future.

  • POSTED BY Nightwing32 on | October 28, 2012, 1:51 GMT

    Yeah why would you want to give the opposition any advantage especially if they are the away team. Give the English and other teams spinning pitches, to give India the advantage. It takes a really good team to win away.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 1:47 GMT

    green tops, wow ... cook was making 294 and kp was making 201 and 175 and bell made 235, some green top ... btw i never heard England complained about the rank turner, in fact they came prepared to play on those :)

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 1:43 GMT

    india should easily win all test matches, england is no good outside of england. India should easily smash Australia at home. The Indians are waiting

  • POSTED BY Mervo on | October 28, 2012, 1:20 GMT

    Virat - that green stuff is called turf. It is what cricket is supposed to be played on, not rolled mud. Seriously though, India really needs to develop some fast bowlers and batsmen who can handle fast bowling at home and away. They will help to avoid the white washes when away.

  • POSTED BY on | October 28, 2012, 1:04 GMT

    The only goal should be to win 4-0. Whatever it takes within the rules - if it means playing with 4 spinners on a wicket that turns on day 1. So be it. Go for the kill.

  • POSTED BY spinkingKK on | October 28, 2012, 1:02 GMT

    I don't think India has a bowler who can match the quality of Ajmal or Narine. Also, India's batting, except Kohli, are very very shaky. Contrary to the popular beleifs, I think England will win this series by 1-0. Its all good that Kohli asking for the rank turners in the tests. I don't think they will get that. These days, these groundsmen in India seems to get some pride in preparing the pitches to suit the tourists and getting their praise. Now that the two of the weakest links, Laxman and Dravid, are gone, the problem India facing in the batting department is that they can't really drop anyone. Pujara and Kohli are young and making runs. Sehwag can destroy any bowling attack on his day and can win the match in 1 day. Gambhir has been a good partner for him and he got experience. Tendulkar being Tendulkar, can not be touched. Raina hasn't done much wrong. Dhoni is the captain and should play. But, together, they flop.

  • POSTED BY disco_bob on | October 28, 2012, 0:50 GMT

    Got to give this one to Kohli, there can be no complaints from England, as if they could eliminate their horror run against spin with a warm up match anyway.

  • POSTED BY Buckers410 on | October 28, 2012, 0:38 GMT

    who will replace tendulkar when he is finished? India should win this series cause Anderson and co have got nothing in the SC. Swann, Panesar and Patel even will be key if england are to have any chance. Good luck Chef:)

  • POSTED BY Marcio on | October 28, 2012, 0:31 GMT

    Kohli the victim, yet again. When will the world stop picking on him? His attitude on the Australian tour was just lame, and I'm sure I am not the only person who tired of seeing him standing on the pitch pouting after being given out, or refusing to accept that the fielder had caught the ball, giving the finger to the crowd. (Imagine if an AUS cricketer did this regularly while touring India!). Here's a reality check, sir. The pitches served up for India on the Australian tour were perfectly standard pitches, and actually far flatter and drier than those served up the previous season when England toured, and for the test against NZ in Hobart. But guess what, your Highness? We didn't MAKE those wickets green for ENG and NZ (which clearly favoured the touring teams). It was because of the unusually wet weather conditions during the Ashes, and the climate in Hobart. Get over it! Your got your butt whipped because you weren't good enough, and that's all there is to it.

  • POSTED BY cloudmess on | October 28, 2012, 0:08 GMT

    India were so bad against England last year that the pitches were largely irrelevant. The fact that England scored 450+ in every match suggest they were not quite greentops. I would expect India to do better now, but whether they win is down to their collective mindset. They have tended to throw in the towel too quickly when one or two things have gone wrong in the past year. They also appointed the wrong coach - Duncan Fletcher was a brilliant coach for England 10 years ago, but that was then, and now is now - his autobiography demonstrated a man who has becomee inflexible, cautious and intolerant of other peoples' views. And he was not the right coach for a talented side who needed to spread their wings after becoming world champions in early 2011.

  • POSTED BY sports21 on | October 27, 2012, 23:57 GMT

    @ RosstheIcon: because thats England's strength...thats where they learn / practice / play cricket...England in India ODI Series, 2011/12....Result - India 5-0......check out the score....India won comfortably..scoring 300-275 and restricting England below 200...it was gud batting condition / pitch....hope it answers ur question :)

  • POSTED BY othello22 on | October 27, 2012, 23:51 GMT

    Kohli certainly has a mouth on him. I see no problem with India producing turning pitches, it's what's called home advantage, but I find Virat's assertion that India were given flat tracks to practice on and then green tops come party time as ludicrous. The same pitches that Ponting and Clarke were producing 3 and 400 run parterships on? Green tops? Yeah right. The only green top dished out in Australia last summer was in Hobart and India didn't play on it, New Zealand did. A lame excuse. India had better hope they beat England and Australia in the upcoming home series' because if they don't, the well of excuses has well and truly run dry.

  • POSTED BY on | October 27, 2012, 23:36 GMT

    Agree with Kohli about the home advantage bit though will the Indian batsmen themselves be able to cope with the rank-turners? Especially with Tendulkar who has not been at his best lately.

  • POSTED BY RosstheIcon on | October 27, 2012, 23:32 GMT

    So these are the 'greentops' that England and Australia were racking up scores over 600 on. You'd think the excuses for Indias lack of quality in those two series would have stopped by now, especially if they want to improve at all. Also, if this is a strategy I feel sorry for the young indian spinners who've been denied a chance to play the game of their life.

  • POSTED BY Sandyn88 on | October 27, 2012, 23:23 GMT

    Its cold in one part of the world and hot in the other. likewise, it seams in one part of the world while turns in the other. green tops is fair game but turners are not??? theres no logic in that argument. its all fair game so my vote is with Virat on this.

  • POSTED BY on | October 27, 2012, 23:22 GMT

    I don't understand this discussion at all. Truth is pitches in India are no rank turners and pitches in England or Aus are no green tops when India loose 4-0. People who cry for India producing rank turners should understand what it is. Rank turner means every one who got fingers can turn square and a certain Micheal Clarke can take 6 wickets in 6 overs with ball bouncing with dust and the match is over in 2 days. That is my friends, called as rank turners. what I see here is just that people exaggerating things for both green tops and rank turners. Truth England not gonna play in rank turners and India not gonna play in green tops but results will come in favor of the host nations cos tourists nations are so bad and can't adopt to the conditions.

  • POSTED BY DJBOP_NZ on | October 27, 2012, 23:20 GMT

    India should definitly play to there strengths and prepare spinner friendly pitches, test cricket needs to become harder to win overseas and theres no harder place to win than india,however it is a little unsportsmanlike to play no spinners for the warmup game. Imagine India preparing for a test at the WACA and aussie A plays 5 spinners and a part time medium?. When india toured NZ 3 years ago we prepared them the best batting conditions NZ has ever had to keep them happy, we also let 4 of there specialist test players play first class games in our domestic teams to give them ample chance to prepare and adjust to our conditions, we also changed the traditional time of games in NZ to 1230 pm to suit the indian fans back home. Kohli needs to grow up and relise that he and his team mates wont get there own way everytime they set foot in other countries to play cricket.

  • POSTED BY sabeeh89 on | October 27, 2012, 23:03 GMT

    While I detest Kohli, , I agree with him 100%. Stop complaining about pitches, you have the better spinner (allegedly) in G Swann.

    In cricket, home teams have a tremendous advantage regardless of where they go. Even when Pakistan plays India, both teams make the pitches to suit their needs and/or their players are used to those conditions having played on them their whole life

  • POSTED BY on | October 27, 2012, 22:34 GMT

    This series is going to be alot closer than people think. 2-1 to India......

  • POSTED BY srriaj317 on | October 27, 2012, 22:10 GMT

    These comments just bring out Kohli's inherent arrogance and the fact that he is still an inexperienced kid. Pakistan had more than 1 quality spinner with Rehman and Ajaml is miles ahead of any of the Indian bowlers. And christ, if these guys are whining so much, we should really prepare green tops next time and make them play in Tassie and Brisbane. Looks like that will be the only way to teach them what a green top is! And preparing for home conditions, weren't the Indians the first to do it with that underprepared Mumbai track in 2004? They almost lost that test too despite Aus being weakened with injuries that tour!

  • POSTED BY Handy87 on | October 27, 2012, 22:05 GMT

    It's quite amusing how the Indian fans have such a high opinion of their own test side. So many predicting 3-0 or 4-0 to India. The Indian batting is no where near as good as it was years ago. Even in 2006 when England had an average side compared to their current one, they managed a 1-1 draw and were narrowly beaten 1-0 in 2008 when it looked as if they would win in Chennai before Tendulkar's innings. I really do think that India need rank turners as their seamers are not going to cause England any problems.

    All this talk about England's inability to play in subcontinent conditions- they were beaten by a Pakistan side with an excellent spin attack last winter. I really don't think India's spinners are that good. Swann has a better record than any current Indian spinner in test matches, so if he's mediocre I don't know what that makes the Indian spinners.

  • POSTED BY YERUVAMUNNA on | October 27, 2012, 21:54 GMT

    comments are free to give...let's agree..That's the reason all are commenting .....it is not like one is false..Every team has the right to make their own pitches.... so now it's our turn to make the pitches ......so we attack with our sub-continent power [ turning pitches ] ..... we never offended your pitches [green topped],you should yours..... It's time to show our power...... .....Kudos to Team India and especially to man in form [virat kohli]........ Bleed Blueeeeeeeeeee

  • POSTED BY TheBengalTiger on | October 27, 2012, 21:50 GMT

    the pitches in England were definitely green tops. As for the people saying, why did England score so many if it was green tops? well obviously, because thats Englands strength. Just like why Pakistan piled on runs in the UAE while England couldn't do it.

  • POSTED BY CorneredTiger92-09 on | October 27, 2012, 21:49 GMT

    What he said was completely right. Why should England get the special treatment and If India got what Kohli said they got in the warm up matches between Aus and Eng then fair enough, don't give them turning tracks. How long have they been playing cricket in Asia and they can't play spin. Good luck to India from a Pakistani and finish off England's year how Pak started it. Btw Kohli is the only Indian player that I am fearing when both sides play later on this year

  • POSTED BY on | October 27, 2012, 21:48 GMT

    i dont have problem with india preparing turning pitches as they have been doing this since day one but i disagree kohli said australia gave them 120 kmph bowler which is rubbish. they had bollinger, copeland and george who already have international experience and bowl much more quicker than what he said. i have a problem with indian selectors who picked a squad with 4 quicks and no spinner in the practice match. yuvraj and raina par time spin is not gonna trouble england.

  • POSTED BY couchpundit on | October 27, 2012, 21:46 GMT

    @Handy87 - Swann is effective only if you have DRS. apart from that he is mediocore...Monty...hehe that will be fun.

  • POSTED BY Shane on | October 27, 2012, 21:32 GMT

    From my memory - pitches in England have always seamed about, bounced more in Australia and turned in India - it's called local conditions. Good players adapt and those that can't need their boards to schedule more than 1 - 2 practice games. Look at how England approached the last Ashes series. They were in Australia early, scheduled enough games and practice matches and took their leading bowlers to Brisbane early to prepare for the first test. The outcome was painful to watch but the preparation was first class and produced the desired result for them. Winning away from home in all types of conditions is hard (would love to see the stats please Statsguru) and is a good measure to determine the merely very good teams from the great.

  • POSTED BY SDHM on | October 27, 2012, 21:29 GMT

    If the pitches we played on last year are Kohli's idea of a green top, I'd hate to see what he'd think of some of the wickets that get rolled out in the Championship. Actually I'd really quite like to see it as it'd be hilarious, but it's a figure of speech! You don't score 700 on a green-top, no matter how average the bowling. Anyway, India played a warm up at Taunton didn't they? Being a Somerset fan I'll bang on at you all day that Taunton is no longer as flat as it used to be, but it's still a pretty good batting wicket, which might explain Kohli's opinion here!

  • POSTED BY TheBengalTiger on | October 27, 2012, 21:21 GMT

    By far the best cricketer in the world. Will also be the best captain in the world.

  • POSTED BY johnathonjosephs on | October 27, 2012, 21:05 GMT

    Kohli is taking the Pakistan whitewash too lightly. Pakistan whitewashed England only because they had Ajmal and Rehman, who are absolutely amazing bowlers. All India have at the moment is Ashwin who is only a mystery because of his carrom ball. Don't forget that England have Swann (who is 2nd only to Ajmal) and Panesar (who had a great run against Pakistan). In Australia and England, there were no "green tops" given to India. There was some grass and in Australia there was extra bounce, but you can hardly call it green (look at South Africa pitches if you want to see green) or unfair. Likewise its completely fair to make turning pitches unless it is a crazy one like the Mumbai Test against Australia a couple years ago. India simply do not have a good Test Team at the moment and lack in a quality bowling attack

  • POSTED BY RednWhiteArmy on | October 27, 2012, 21:00 GMT

    ahhh kohli, your just on your flow, you'll be fine.

  • POSTED BY Flat_Track_bullies on | October 27, 2012, 20:52 GMT

    My feeling is INDIA ARE GETTING VERY COMPLACENT AND AHEAD OF THEMSELVES...this is a long series and they will have to show they can fight. Even a 2-2 draw would feel like a loss....India should BE VERY CAREFUL!!!

  • POSTED BY Sanawana on | October 27, 2012, 20:39 GMT

    Just to let you know! We are keeping our fingers crossed from across the border!! Cant wait to see this battle.. I hope this turn out a good battle! The build up is becoming interesting!

  • POSTED BY muneeb2012 on | October 27, 2012, 20:35 GMT

    and in tests you can use home advantage however you can....but it should only be in tests....i can remember an eng vs sl odi last year in eng...cook requested curator to prepare a green top and eng won that match easily in d end....if eng can use home advantage in odis,how can ind not do it in tests? So i think its fair enough

  • POSTED BY JESHIPL on | October 27, 2012, 20:33 GMT

    what kholi said is fine, if they gave flatter tracks then why should we give turning tracks to them, inspite of that if they are happened to be winners at the end of the tour it would be a disaster to india.

  • POSTED BY jaykalp on | October 27, 2012, 20:29 GMT

    I don't really understand all this talk about the pitches being tailor made for the Home Team. Open your eyes people, if the home team were to make a pitch which mimicked those of the visiting team, then it won't be an away test anymore...and if every visiting team is so wary of the Home Advantage ,they better bring their own pitches. Coming to Virat's statements, it sounds really absurd. I mean, he basically is insulting the intelligence of an average Indian fan like me. Is he trying to tell us that they lost , without putting up so much as a fight, just because they were given flat tracks in practice matches,on which by the way, they failed miserably and ; green tops in Tests?? This certainly can't be the reason for a 0-8 record overseas in as many matches! The Indian fans have come to terms with their team's shortcomings. It's about time that the administrators and the players do the same as well. Instead of covering their shortcomings, they should focus on overcoming them.

  • POSTED BY nitsdcricketlover on | October 27, 2012, 20:27 GMT

    I really dnt understand y der is so much of talk abt d pitch condition..u come to india nd u expect a green top u must be kidding me..nd dis won't b d first tym dey ny visiting is givn a rank turner..if u a gud enough player nd wanna perform well in all condtion u hav to do well in dis condtion..nd setting d records straight..since 1999 dis england won a 1st test seris against india either in end or in ind..I knw we had n awful last yrs..nd we really need to do well..bt 4 ny england fan if u havnt gone through d history of english cricket plz go through coz since 1984 end hav just won a single test in ind..dis show d qualityof cricket english team plays..so plz critisizing indian team u shuld go thorugh d history properly...!!

  • POSTED BY torsha on | October 27, 2012, 20:24 GMT

    Yea that's absolutely right Virat.

  • POSTED BY vick122 on | October 27, 2012, 20:23 GMT

    this short pitch bowling thing is a bit overrated its not tht we r incapable of playing it(barring raina,yusuf pathan) its just tht we cant dish out the same stuff to the opposition because of our ineffective pace attack. even the players from other countries struggle against short pitch bowling eg ricky ponting a very good short ball player struggled against kemar roach.. michael clarke struggled against the short ball whn they played sa.. j p duminy is not a good short ball player.. these r just a few examples but there r many who struggle.. its just tht we r found out more often coz they execute these plans against us more often..

  • POSTED BY muneeb2012 on | October 27, 2012, 20:21 GMT

    the man deserves to say whatever he is saying...and i know that he will back his words up with some solid innings...just a little change in attitude and he will become a global cricket star just like sachin n dravid

  • POSTED BY Chris_P on | October 27, 2012, 20:20 GMT

    Manuka Oval, Canberra a batting track? Not in this world, never ever been, never ever will. What you didn't receive prior to the first test was the top quality pace attack to face, and to be blunt, only Perth was a greentop, and apart form a couple of seasons (including India's prior tour) has always been so. Melbourne & Sydney aren't & Adelaide is closer to sub continent than anything else. Not sure where that came from Virat, but interesting quote. Can't comment about English matches, over to you guys to do that.

  • POSTED BY BHARATLIFE on | October 27, 2012, 20:13 GMT

    Actully this could backfire for Kohli, they may come very very hard at him. Forget the spinners their Fast bowlers could really take the advantage of early morning swing and expose the inexperienced and out of form middle order.But in most likeliness , i would say it is 3-0 or 2-0 India, there could well be a boring draw in the mix.

    Kohli is being a bit unfair, yes they might be green tops, but they did get a couple of scores over 500 , 300 and we had the initiative in the 2nd test (ENG 128/8) ,which we did not grab, so that shows we lacked that knock out punch!!!Actually may be not the first and 2 nd but 3 rd nd fourth looked like good tracks, either toothless bowling attacks or weak batting in ENG.

    0-8 any other captain would have been sacked, if he could have got some 4 or 5 fifties, his place was good. But he sounded a bit partisan, when he backed Dhoni.

  • POSTED BY markatnotts on | October 27, 2012, 19:59 GMT

    I can't believe such a fine player has come out with this comment about fast green tops in England. The pitches at test level for years have been flat, and it is the overhead conditions that can help swing bowling at times. From actually watching the games in 2011, I recall the ball going through to the keeper at ankle height off the Indian bowlers. The success Kumar had was done to his skillful swing bowling. Even the quicker England bowlers had to work hard with the ball often going through to the keeper at knee height. It didn't seam much at all, though Jimmy and Broad did swing the ball well at times. Finally India were presented with the most favourable bowling conditions of the summer on day one at Trent Bridge, but England fought back well.

  • POSTED BY Handy87 on | October 27, 2012, 19:52 GMT

    People seem to be forgetting that 'rank turners' may actually play into England's hands- they have two quality spinners of their own in the shape of Graeme Swann and Monty Panesar. England did not prepare wickets that were 'grossly unfair' to India- they were the same kind of wickets that have been played on in England for years. Looking at the scores England made in that 2011 series, you'd have to say the pitches were actually rather flat.

  • POSTED BY yogesh.gg on | October 27, 2012, 19:52 GMT

    Handy87 on (October 27 2012, 18:00 PM GMT) : You are spot on. Our bowling was very shoddy , that's the precise reason why England scored heavily against demoralized indian bowling attack.

  • POSTED BY on | October 27, 2012, 19:44 GMT

    are serious, Kohli? if those were flats wkts u guys were given then why did u guys still got hammered in that practice games? looooser

  • POSTED BY on | October 27, 2012, 19:43 GMT

    Some people are talking of England scoring 400+ runs in "green top" pitches and India's inability to do the same.Well guys that is home condition for u guys and it is quite natural for England to do so,whats so special in that? When you guys come to India,I am sure England will be bowled out for less than 200 runs!

  • POSTED BY GreenDeviln on | October 27, 2012, 19:36 GMT

    Can't agree more. I think, England and Oz's intentionally gave those flats for practice as they knew bowling on green pitch is not one of strengths. They provided flats so our batsmen can't get used to green pitch conditions thereby winning the series easily.

  • POSTED BY chokkashokka on | October 27, 2012, 19:24 GMT

    why is this even news? I don't seem to recall the issue of wickets being different between the warm up games and test matches when India was visiting England and Australia. The wickets should be rank square turners from day one - nothing less would be fair. England and Australia started this trend of preparing wickets that are grossly unfair to the visiting teams - now the home team is just following that example and being inclusive. England did not prepare the same type of wickets for SA and still got clobbered at home. England have made their bed - and now they have to lie in it. And lets stop reporting on this type of non-news.

  • POSTED BY MortalWombat on | October 27, 2012, 19:22 GMT

    The warm up matches Kohli says India played against medium pacers saw the likes of Doug Bollinger, Peter George, and Charl Wlloughby, all of whom have played test cricket and bowl considerably faster than than 120 km. Alfonso Thomas is also quite a respectable first class bowler.

    The BCCI also bears a large share of the responsibility for only scheduling 1 or 2 warm ups before the test series.

    There is no need to compromise integrity by preparing exaggerated pitches. Lets just have normal cricket wickets for the local conditions, and they will naturally favour the home teams traditional strengths without going over the top.

  • POSTED BY cabinet96 on | October 27, 2012, 19:10 GMT

    Such extreme green tops that England and Australia regularly posted 500 plus scores, often for the loss of very few wickets. What does that say about your bowling attack Virat?

  • POSTED BY ian_ghose on | October 27, 2012, 19:09 GMT

    You know, what'd be absolutely hilarious? Keep talking about spinning tracks, only for England to fill their XI with spinners....and then to give them an absolute green top!

  • POSTED BY Pearl5 on | October 27, 2012, 19:08 GMT

    So on those flat tracks, presented for the practice matches, Indians were all out for 224 in less 53 overs, in first match, scored at 3.82 and all out in less than 100 Overs next match. What an arrogant way to justify an absurd policy.

  • POSTED BY SCC08 on | October 27, 2012, 19:07 GMT

    Kholi - Sehwag is terrible on the short ball and normally gives his wicket away when its a challenge. Fact remains - India's test record abroad is shocking, hence the poor batting on green tracks. Also says something about your bowling attack that couldnt use these same " green tracks"

  • POSTED BY the_wallster on | October 27, 2012, 19:02 GMT

    Not sure anyone would question Kohli on turning pitches. Home conditions means you play to your conditions. But i've no idea where he is coming from regarding warm-up practice in England. When England play abroad they play 3 warm-up games. India came over for a single 3-day game, and got wallopped in that. And 'green tops' ?? They were mostly flat pitches in the England series, suited the seamers, of which both teams had three each. England bowlers out-bowled the Indian bowlers who weren't match-fit because of a lack of practice beforehand.

  • POSTED BY on | October 27, 2012, 19:00 GMT

    Very well said. Kohli is the future of Indian Cricket

  • POSTED BY Harvey on | October 27, 2012, 18:59 GMT

    As an England fan, as long as the pitches for the Tests aren't pancake-flat, and don't give a ridiculous advantage to the team winning the toss, there will be no objections from me. If India do intend to sabotage our warm-ups though, maybe in the future we should get Pakistan or Bangladesh to host our warm-ups instead. As for Kohli's outrageous comments about being made to play on a "flat pitch" on their last tour of England in their only warm-up match before the "greentop" at the 1st Test, perhaps he would like to explain how (if it was so flat) India got bowled out for 224 on it? As for the four match series in which India were so poor they arguably brought the game into disrepute, the CLOSEST India came to winning a match was a 196 run defeat! Is he really using that as an excuse? Had his team shown more respect to their hosts (and to Test cricket) by playing more than a single 3-day warm--up game, they would have had a chance to acclimatise to English conditions.

  • POSTED BY VettiPayyan on | October 27, 2012, 18:57 GMT

    Fearing the fast ball is understandable, as its human defence, but fearing against Spin actually shows the opponent lacks brains cos Spin is intelligence.

    Hope even Ashwins carrom ball turns a mile and then we will see what this Fast track bullies can do!!

  • POSTED BY jackthelad on | October 27, 2012, 18:52 GMT

    Keep playing those mind games - forever (John Lennon). India haven't a clue what to do, and England are a ragged bunch compared to a year ago. Not even a second-place contest.

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | October 27, 2012, 18:49 GMT

    I agree with Kohli that it is OK to present "Turner Pitches" for the forthcoming India VS. England Tests. But has India the skill to succeed on these pitches. Currently fine bowlers like M.Kartik & Rahul Sharma were either not considered or benched. This type of tactics left India deficient in spin bowlers too. While Ojha & Ashwin had easy time against WI & NZ getting lot of wickets, can they repeat the same against England. Let us see if India walk the talk !Actions always speak louder than the words. Sehwag, Tendulkar, Gambhir have to prove that they are still a force to reckon with by scoring centuries NOT poking at the balls outside the off & getting caught. There are some Indian fans who are rating India as the "Underdogs". This is because India has big names who never show up. I have great faith in these big names but their recent irresponsible attitude has cheesed off Fans!. V.Kohli, first India must revenge the 4-0 loss in England & show India is invincible on their home soil!

  • POSTED BY on | October 27, 2012, 18:44 GMT

    n herez our next captain !!

  • POSTED BY on | October 27, 2012, 18:42 GMT

    Speaking his mind is Virat. Keep it up bro. Just don't let it get to you. controlled banter/aggression should be welcome. All said and done, he's a young athlete representing his country.

    There's absolutely nothing wrong in what India are doing, exactly like Eng and Aus were totally well within their rights (and spirit of the game too, if you will) in making it tough for touring India by applying tactics that they did.

    People whining about the "spirit of game" must realize that this is competitive international sport we're talking about and these are professional teams of the highest level. It's not like the visiting teams are not aware of these tactics. If Eng felt they need spin practice they should/could have arranged for it at their end (again, just like India should have during their Eng and Aus tours).

    Everybody remembers a certain Sachin Tendulkar going the extra mile by asking spinners to bowl in rough, outside leg to prepare for Warne, and the result, as they say, is histry

  • POSTED BY FRRR on | October 27, 2012, 18:41 GMT

    Rather than talking loud, Kohli should focus on his batting. If India has to win then they have to play rather than talking garbage.

    Though English team is filled with average players, they might pull off victory against Indians.

  • POSTED BY on | October 27, 2012, 18:40 GMT

    As Dhoni said during 5-0 routing of poms, if seaming and bouncing wickets are sporty..then spinning wickets are sporty too!

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | October 27, 2012, 18:36 GMT

    now this is what i call A FUTURE CAPTAIN , I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A REPLY FROM MR.VAUGHAN PLEASE , THEY WERE THE FIRST TO CALL THE ABSENCE OF SPINNERS A DISGRACE , LETS SEE

  • POSTED BY analyseabhishek on | October 27, 2012, 18:36 GMT

    Like his game, Kohli has also fine-tuned his words so as to be aggressive without going overboard! Pleasure seeing him attack others and defend his own base!

  • POSTED BY Sakthiivel on | October 27, 2012, 18:34 GMT

    Brits speak as they know everything, Where is Michale Vaghan?

  • POSTED BY on | October 27, 2012, 18:32 GMT

    Kolhi, you are the man. I agree with his honesty. The part where I sort of disagree with him, is that the bouncers have kept batsmen tentative. If you check Tendulkars stats against fast bowling units like South Africa and Pakistan they are just below 40. The problem isn't technique its just the fact batsmen dont come on the front foot as they would like to. Dravid and Tendulkar have been bowled recently mostly because of the ball being pushed up, the balls before them have been a little short of length. However, I agree with him this isn't a coaching mistake, players are to blame, possibly mental toughness and overcoming the stigma.

  • POSTED BY Reg_Dyer on | October 27, 2012, 18:29 GMT

    "Green tops" my foot! You don't score 700+ on a 'green top'. But if that excuse makes you feel better about 4-0....

  • POSTED BY Lahori_Munde on | October 27, 2012, 18:29 GMT

    Fair enough comments from Kohli. In modern days cricket, every little things count and every country makes sure they get the maximum out of home series..

  • POSTED BY bijusportsfan on | October 27, 2012, 18:22 GMT

    This kid knows to talk. I hope he can walk the talk.

  • POSTED BY eGVishal on | October 27, 2012, 18:10 GMT

    Very well said from an outstanding cricketer. He is closest to comment on the issue.

  • POSTED BY Handy87 on | October 27, 2012, 18:00 GMT

    How can Kohli say India played on green tops in England? Just look at some of the scores England made- 474 in the first test, 544 in the second, 710/7 in the 3rd test and 591/6 in the 4th! If those scores were made on 'green tops', that is a rather damning indictment of India's bowling attack! These comments from Mr Kohli come across as rather bitter as those were very good pitches that England managed to bat perfectly well on.

  • POSTED BY bumsonseats on | October 27, 2012, 18:00 GMT

    kohli the guys you talk about been good at short piched bowling have retired, with ST being a shadow of the player he was. suresh raina and yuvraj singh were shocking and showed fear, one was walking thinking he was out and the umpire and slow motion showed he was no way near the bowl. so anything other than a turner would be a shock.

  • POSTED BY rob-nick on | October 27, 2012, 17:58 GMT

    Simple way to discribe what kohli has told is a "Perfect Reply"

  • POSTED BY wolf777 on | October 27, 2012, 17:48 GMT

    Agreed, England should not be given anything but big turning wickets. If they want to be number one, they need to learn spin as well as pace...Nothing wrong in sending back England fast bowlers demoralized. Saying that, BCCI should have both bouncy green tops and turning wickets for Domestic competitions so that Indian Batsmen are not in the same predicament when travelling to England, Australia, NZ and WI.

  • POSTED BY captainpermod on | October 27, 2012, 17:48 GMT

    I strongly agree with the first part of article. Teams should cope with all challenges presented in the host country and off course pitch conditions are on top of the list. Team India let the english batting spin in whirlpool of home conditions. For second part, yes, Indian batting has been vulnerable against quick short pitch bowling. Multiple times, they are put to the sword and seldom came through unhurt.

  • POSTED BY bumsonseats on | October 27, 2012, 17:42 GMT

    the Indian players have no idea what green tops are. if for instance you think what you got here last year was a green top ( A GREENTOP IS WERE YOU CANNOT SEE THE PITCH FOR THE OUTFIELD ).we batted 1st on 2 occasions and made plenty you lot could not score over 300 on any wicket you played on. there was a good covering of grass. the wickets were the same for the warmup games were you fared no better. ask The Wall were they green tops he seemed to manage ok in fact he managed very well. the pitches in oz were the same good for shots with bounce and pace which makes for good cricket, and they also made bags of runs. perhaps with more heart some of your batters could have fared better. The SLs who did play on pitches with a tinge of green played out of their skins earlier in the season they seemed to play ok on them. i fear that we will get turners but when you go to india that what you expect then the indian players need a big win or they will loose face before their fans.

  • POSTED BY on | October 27, 2012, 17:41 GMT

    Why India cannot make fast pitches in India at least in internal matches, then no need to fear whatever may be the pitch and also who can play both spin and fast need to come in team. Avoid zonal selection; if selection depend on ability no problem at all.

  • POSTED BY darsh127 on | October 27, 2012, 17:35 GMT

    Yes Kohli!, I totally agree with you. What you have said is the best thing I've heard in a long time .... I like your confidence:), I barely have words to say anything about this.. It just says it all!!

  • POSTED BY on | October 27, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    why blame Greg Chappel for India's bad performance then ? actually if had not been for Chappell...India wud have never won world cup T20 that year.

  • POSTED BY KingOwl on | October 27, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    I like straight talking from Kohli. I wish Sri Lanka had a young player who has the same personality and the same determination.

  • POSTED BY mayurnandan on | October 27, 2012, 17:30 GMT

    Absoluetly agree with Kohli. If every team play acc. to their strengths than why not us.Whatever if's n but's are their before the series they will get buried once the series gets started, so whether India didn't pick spinners for the practice match n all other stuff will not b remembered by anyone as the series goes underway. The main thing is if England has to regain there No.1 spot they have to beat India in our own backyard otherwise there is a lot to think for England about their inability to play in sub-continent conditions.

  • POSTED BY arki.anil on | October 27, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    this is goin to be more interestin than the world cup.

  • POSTED BY xylo on | October 27, 2012, 17:22 GMT

    I would say India could deceive England and go one up by playing Harbhajan Singh as a spinner in the practice match. If that happened, everybody involved would be happy - England to face a spinner, India to not have let England get spin practice, and Harbhajan Singh to have played against some quality opposition.

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  • POSTED BY xylo on | October 27, 2012, 17:22 GMT

    I would say India could deceive England and go one up by playing Harbhajan Singh as a spinner in the practice match. If that happened, everybody involved would be happy - England to face a spinner, India to not have let England get spin practice, and Harbhajan Singh to have played against some quality opposition.

  • POSTED BY arki.anil on | October 27, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    this is goin to be more interestin than the world cup.

  • POSTED BY mayurnandan on | October 27, 2012, 17:30 GMT

    Absoluetly agree with Kohli. If every team play acc. to their strengths than why not us.Whatever if's n but's are their before the series they will get buried once the series gets started, so whether India didn't pick spinners for the practice match n all other stuff will not b remembered by anyone as the series goes underway. The main thing is if England has to regain there No.1 spot they have to beat India in our own backyard otherwise there is a lot to think for England about their inability to play in sub-continent conditions.

  • POSTED BY KingOwl on | October 27, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    I like straight talking from Kohli. I wish Sri Lanka had a young player who has the same personality and the same determination.

  • POSTED BY on | October 27, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    why blame Greg Chappel for India's bad performance then ? actually if had not been for Chappell...India wud have never won world cup T20 that year.

  • POSTED BY darsh127 on | October 27, 2012, 17:35 GMT

    Yes Kohli!, I totally agree with you. What you have said is the best thing I've heard in a long time .... I like your confidence:), I barely have words to say anything about this.. It just says it all!!

  • POSTED BY on | October 27, 2012, 17:41 GMT

    Why India cannot make fast pitches in India at least in internal matches, then no need to fear whatever may be the pitch and also who can play both spin and fast need to come in team. Avoid zonal selection; if selection depend on ability no problem at all.

  • POSTED BY bumsonseats on | October 27, 2012, 17:42 GMT

    the Indian players have no idea what green tops are. if for instance you think what you got here last year was a green top ( A GREENTOP IS WERE YOU CANNOT SEE THE PITCH FOR THE OUTFIELD ).we batted 1st on 2 occasions and made plenty you lot could not score over 300 on any wicket you played on. there was a good covering of grass. the wickets were the same for the warmup games were you fared no better. ask The Wall were they green tops he seemed to manage ok in fact he managed very well. the pitches in oz were the same good for shots with bounce and pace which makes for good cricket, and they also made bags of runs. perhaps with more heart some of your batters could have fared better. The SLs who did play on pitches with a tinge of green played out of their skins earlier in the season they seemed to play ok on them. i fear that we will get turners but when you go to india that what you expect then the indian players need a big win or they will loose face before their fans.

  • POSTED BY captainpermod on | October 27, 2012, 17:48 GMT

    I strongly agree with the first part of article. Teams should cope with all challenges presented in the host country and off course pitch conditions are on top of the list. Team India let the english batting spin in whirlpool of home conditions. For second part, yes, Indian batting has been vulnerable against quick short pitch bowling. Multiple times, they are put to the sword and seldom came through unhurt.

  • POSTED BY wolf777 on | October 27, 2012, 17:48 GMT

    Agreed, England should not be given anything but big turning wickets. If they want to be number one, they need to learn spin as well as pace...Nothing wrong in sending back England fast bowlers demoralized. Saying that, BCCI should have both bouncy green tops and turning wickets for Domestic competitions so that Indian Batsmen are not in the same predicament when travelling to England, Australia, NZ and WI.