India news August 18, 2013

Ashwin adding to his variations

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Having been rested from India's tour of Zimbabwe, R Ashwin, the India offspinner, has been working on adding to his bowling variations. "I have the arm-ball, the carrom ball, and the under-cutter but I am developing a flipper that pitches just short of a length and skids on," he told The Hindu. "I am also trying to get the carrom ball that spins into the right-hander. This will add a new dimension to my bowling."

Since his debut in 2011, Ashwin has played 16 Tests and taken 92 wickets at an average of 28.53. In 58 ODIs, the bowler has 80 wickets at an average of 30.83. He attributes his success to sizing up batsmen and ensuring their strengths are kept in check and weaknesses exploited. Against batsmen like Chris Gayle for example, Ashwin said he was focussed on denying the batsman width and room.

"If you toss one up and draw him [Gayle] into a stroke and then pull it back a little, because of the revolutions on the ball, instead of clearing either long-on or long-off, he could be caught at mid-off or mid-on."

Against Australia earlier this year, Ashwin finished as the highest wicket-taker in the four-match series, with 29 wickets in eight innings at an average of 20.41. He said the trick to getting good players of spin, like Michael Clarke, out was in understanding the batsman's technique.

"Clarke is a good player of spin, can step out or hang back," he said. "But then, he defends with hard hands. The trick is to make him play back to a ball that is not really short."

A spinner needs to utilise everything at his disposal to set up a batsman, a fact Ashwin has employed to good effect. Enticing the batsmen into awkward positions and causing trouble to their balance at the crease has also helped the offspinner pick up wickets.

"I came round the wicket and got the left-handed Michael Hussey to drive in the Melbourne Test. Then I held one back, he went for the drive, and edged," he said. "I also bowled one that turned away from Shaun Marsh and then got him with an under-cutter.

"When I come wide of the crease to a right-hander, he is looking for something outside the off-stump. If I then send down one on off and middle, his head could falter and his drive could be uppish."

Another variation that Ashwin had added was the wider arm delivery that helped him get side-spin. "Someone with a high-arm action like me will get more over-spin than side-spin. Graeme Swann bowls a lot wider with his arm than I do, so he achieves plenty of side-spin. I also bowl the wider arm delivery to impart side spin these days," he said.

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  • on August 18, 2013, 18:13 GMT

    Ashwin is a very good bowler in sub continent.He doesn't have a real success behind him when he tours overseas, i hope the South African tour can change that stats.And if India had to win in those conditions Ashwin also has a huge role to play.Trying variations are good as long it doesn't,castaway his natural skills.Sometimes it feels that ashwin is trying too much of variations,and when he had stopped that in Australian series he was a tremendous success.

  • ramz30380 on August 21, 2013, 6:06 GMT

    @Srini_Chennai - Successful people will have as many haters as lovers. Most of these Ashwin bashers are guys who support other spinners who may not feature in the playing XI. MSD has many haters, so did Steve Waugh & Ricky Ponting in their peak! Thats how the world goes....

    Genuine cricket lovers, will be able to see an optimal viewpoint on all cricketers. Rohit Sharma is being hated by many for this reason as many feel that he is being given a long leash... May be true, but there is no denying the talent.

    With Ashwin it is even more disheartening as this guy has proved beyond a doubt how good he is. Yet, I can see many cricket lovers, here who see the rationale behind the selectors, the captain and the team having faith in Ashwin.

    I wish Ashwin the best of luck to surpass 100 wickets in Test cricket very soon! Go on man, make India proud!

  • Srini_Indian on August 21, 2013, 4:22 GMT

    Looking at the comments from my fellow Indian fans, one would get an impression that Ashwin is playing for Pakistan. Can't believe why so much hatred. Same for Rohit Sharma as well. Ashwin didn't do well in his 1st abroad tour, people are already writing him off!! Why can't we allow these youngsters to learn their trade in alien conditions and fully back them in good as well as bad times? Irrespective of what happens in SA tour, the current players are the best we have and we should back them to succeed. Go India!

  • prasanna_79 on August 21, 2013, 4:01 GMT

    It would be a very gud idea for Ashwin to work more on his fitmess as well because he seems to move very slowly in the field & while running between d wkts as well & often gets run-out..Too slow a mover for his age i thought.. Also his test match batting seems to have gone down a couple of notches in the home test series against England & Australia..Not being over critical or biased against him but only a general & fair opinion..!

  • ramz30380 on August 20, 2013, 17:53 GMT

    @ ssenthil - well said mate - agree with u to the t.

    @the_blue_android - If u saw SRJ's bowling performances it has always been in tandem with Ashwin's bowling and MSD's fielding positions. Take these two men out of contention, u saw the real SRJ in Zimbabwe! Make no mistakes, I am a big fan of SRJ frm his IPL debut days, but u can't be blind mate!

    If u had watched the WI series, the matches that MSD did not play, u cud have seen that Virat allowed Ashwin to set his own fields. If u watch matches closely - u can c Ashwin and MSD discussing plenty whn he is placed in the slips.

    Accept it, Ashwin has a logical cricketing brain, thats why he wants to keep evolving. PPl are comparing him with Mendis, which is very wrong. If Mendis had evolved as and when ppl started reading him, he wud have been the nxt best thing for SL after Muralitharan.

    I am reminded of a Dravid's TV commentry, where he mentioned tht Ashwin is largehearted & a fighter like Kumble viz needed for Indian cricket!

  • on August 20, 2013, 17:29 GMT

    i dont get why everyone pointing out only ashwin for debace which happened some time ago...what did the other players do in that series only dravid and to some extent dhoni did well there...werent the others at fault...and u cant expect a spinner to get 5 wicket hauls in seamer condition pitches...it is the fast bowlers who have to tae majrity wicket and none did...and not to mention the bowlers didnt even have enough runs to give any sort of a chance...instead of only blaming ashwin please analyze what others did in that tour....as of now ashwin is the most trusted one by dhoni...even if he doesnt take wickets he restricts the run flow and eventually makes the batsmen play wrong shots...dont be bias toward him because he plays for csk or TN...and i dont see why u guys point out csk csk....2 times champions 3 times runner up and eventually the team will have good players...just take the example of real madrid and barca for spain...

  • on August 20, 2013, 15:58 GMT

    So your argument now is that Ashwin the bowler cannot perform in Seamer friendly conditions. Cool, lets get this straight, You and me both know the guy got brains. You got problem cause He working hard to trouble batsmen more with more variations, You working hard bashing him. The South African Tour will be very helpful for him and Jadeja. Look for any bowling unit to succeed you need different bowlers doing different tasks.

    For eg: Ishant gets bounce, Umesh got pace, Bhuvi got swing, Ashwin out-thinks the batsmen, Jadeja sticks to basics. Wish Zak was fit. We got Raina, Yuvi, Kohli too has part time bowling to say the least. Add Dhoni's brain in this, We got a really potent attack if any 2 bowlers click.

    So let the guy do what he is doing, he knows why he is in the team. Plus you know his batting is good enough to survive the bowling outside asia.

    thanks.

  • ssenthil on August 20, 2013, 8:09 GMT

    @the_blue_android, I wonder which India vs Australia series you were watching? The rest of the world seen Ashwin as the leading wicket taker and as well the Player of the series. Even CI have the same detail in the scorecard here: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/598815.html. He had already taken 92 wickets from just 16 tests. So lets be patient with him for few overseas series where any Indian spinner generally struggled even till their last series there. Unless batsman score enough runs you can't expect a Spinner to run through opponents in seamer friendly conditions. So just wait for SA test series. Limited overs cricket is altogether is different. Note on Jadeja as a spinner, As we have already seen in WI and Zim, Jadeja the bowler is below ordinary without Dhoni as captain, he doesn't know how to set field for each batsman yet. After Zak, Ashwin is the only man set fielding for his own bowling, that proves something to who has brain and can use it for thinking.

  • sweetspot on August 20, 2013, 6:26 GMT

    Some people think they know more than the guy who has got 92 test wickets in 16 matches! Giving advice like they're all experts. Ashwin is trashed by some just because he plays for CSK and TN. Even if he gets 20 wickets in a Test, some will claim others are better than him. That's just the reality of playing for champion teams. Jadeja is bowling well, but the reason he's getting wickets in Tests is because Ashwin is very hard to go after or take chances against. Ashwin is a very intelligent operator. Make no mistake about this - India's premier spinner at the moment is Ashwin. His captain knows this better than any of you keyboard geniuses, so let him do his job.

  • the_blue_android on August 20, 2013, 5:36 GMT

    Ravindra Jadeja is certainly a better spinner than Ashwin. Jadeja was easily out bowling Ashwin in the home series against the clueless Aussies. Ashwin's theater will never work in England, Aus, SA. Spinners need patience and good line and length on seamer friendly tracks which Ashwin cannot do. As far his success at home is concerned, I think anyone with some finger strength, who can rip the ball can get the job done..Raina too.

  • on August 18, 2013, 18:13 GMT

    Ashwin is a very good bowler in sub continent.He doesn't have a real success behind him when he tours overseas, i hope the South African tour can change that stats.And if India had to win in those conditions Ashwin also has a huge role to play.Trying variations are good as long it doesn't,castaway his natural skills.Sometimes it feels that ashwin is trying too much of variations,and when he had stopped that in Australian series he was a tremendous success.

  • ramz30380 on August 21, 2013, 6:06 GMT

    @Srini_Chennai - Successful people will have as many haters as lovers. Most of these Ashwin bashers are guys who support other spinners who may not feature in the playing XI. MSD has many haters, so did Steve Waugh & Ricky Ponting in their peak! Thats how the world goes....

    Genuine cricket lovers, will be able to see an optimal viewpoint on all cricketers. Rohit Sharma is being hated by many for this reason as many feel that he is being given a long leash... May be true, but there is no denying the talent.

    With Ashwin it is even more disheartening as this guy has proved beyond a doubt how good he is. Yet, I can see many cricket lovers, here who see the rationale behind the selectors, the captain and the team having faith in Ashwin.

    I wish Ashwin the best of luck to surpass 100 wickets in Test cricket very soon! Go on man, make India proud!

  • Srini_Indian on August 21, 2013, 4:22 GMT

    Looking at the comments from my fellow Indian fans, one would get an impression that Ashwin is playing for Pakistan. Can't believe why so much hatred. Same for Rohit Sharma as well. Ashwin didn't do well in his 1st abroad tour, people are already writing him off!! Why can't we allow these youngsters to learn their trade in alien conditions and fully back them in good as well as bad times? Irrespective of what happens in SA tour, the current players are the best we have and we should back them to succeed. Go India!

  • prasanna_79 on August 21, 2013, 4:01 GMT

    It would be a very gud idea for Ashwin to work more on his fitmess as well because he seems to move very slowly in the field & while running between d wkts as well & often gets run-out..Too slow a mover for his age i thought.. Also his test match batting seems to have gone down a couple of notches in the home test series against England & Australia..Not being over critical or biased against him but only a general & fair opinion..!

  • ramz30380 on August 20, 2013, 17:53 GMT

    @ ssenthil - well said mate - agree with u to the t.

    @the_blue_android - If u saw SRJ's bowling performances it has always been in tandem with Ashwin's bowling and MSD's fielding positions. Take these two men out of contention, u saw the real SRJ in Zimbabwe! Make no mistakes, I am a big fan of SRJ frm his IPL debut days, but u can't be blind mate!

    If u had watched the WI series, the matches that MSD did not play, u cud have seen that Virat allowed Ashwin to set his own fields. If u watch matches closely - u can c Ashwin and MSD discussing plenty whn he is placed in the slips.

    Accept it, Ashwin has a logical cricketing brain, thats why he wants to keep evolving. PPl are comparing him with Mendis, which is very wrong. If Mendis had evolved as and when ppl started reading him, he wud have been the nxt best thing for SL after Muralitharan.

    I am reminded of a Dravid's TV commentry, where he mentioned tht Ashwin is largehearted & a fighter like Kumble viz needed for Indian cricket!

  • on August 20, 2013, 17:29 GMT

    i dont get why everyone pointing out only ashwin for debace which happened some time ago...what did the other players do in that series only dravid and to some extent dhoni did well there...werent the others at fault...and u cant expect a spinner to get 5 wicket hauls in seamer condition pitches...it is the fast bowlers who have to tae majrity wicket and none did...and not to mention the bowlers didnt even have enough runs to give any sort of a chance...instead of only blaming ashwin please analyze what others did in that tour....as of now ashwin is the most trusted one by dhoni...even if he doesnt take wickets he restricts the run flow and eventually makes the batsmen play wrong shots...dont be bias toward him because he plays for csk or TN...and i dont see why u guys point out csk csk....2 times champions 3 times runner up and eventually the team will have good players...just take the example of real madrid and barca for spain...

  • on August 20, 2013, 15:58 GMT

    So your argument now is that Ashwin the bowler cannot perform in Seamer friendly conditions. Cool, lets get this straight, You and me both know the guy got brains. You got problem cause He working hard to trouble batsmen more with more variations, You working hard bashing him. The South African Tour will be very helpful for him and Jadeja. Look for any bowling unit to succeed you need different bowlers doing different tasks.

    For eg: Ishant gets bounce, Umesh got pace, Bhuvi got swing, Ashwin out-thinks the batsmen, Jadeja sticks to basics. Wish Zak was fit. We got Raina, Yuvi, Kohli too has part time bowling to say the least. Add Dhoni's brain in this, We got a really potent attack if any 2 bowlers click.

    So let the guy do what he is doing, he knows why he is in the team. Plus you know his batting is good enough to survive the bowling outside asia.

    thanks.

  • ssenthil on August 20, 2013, 8:09 GMT

    @the_blue_android, I wonder which India vs Australia series you were watching? The rest of the world seen Ashwin as the leading wicket taker and as well the Player of the series. Even CI have the same detail in the scorecard here: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/598815.html. He had already taken 92 wickets from just 16 tests. So lets be patient with him for few overseas series where any Indian spinner generally struggled even till their last series there. Unless batsman score enough runs you can't expect a Spinner to run through opponents in seamer friendly conditions. So just wait for SA test series. Limited overs cricket is altogether is different. Note on Jadeja as a spinner, As we have already seen in WI and Zim, Jadeja the bowler is below ordinary without Dhoni as captain, he doesn't know how to set field for each batsman yet. After Zak, Ashwin is the only man set fielding for his own bowling, that proves something to who has brain and can use it for thinking.

  • sweetspot on August 20, 2013, 6:26 GMT

    Some people think they know more than the guy who has got 92 test wickets in 16 matches! Giving advice like they're all experts. Ashwin is trashed by some just because he plays for CSK and TN. Even if he gets 20 wickets in a Test, some will claim others are better than him. That's just the reality of playing for champion teams. Jadeja is bowling well, but the reason he's getting wickets in Tests is because Ashwin is very hard to go after or take chances against. Ashwin is a very intelligent operator. Make no mistake about this - India's premier spinner at the moment is Ashwin. His captain knows this better than any of you keyboard geniuses, so let him do his job.

  • the_blue_android on August 20, 2013, 5:36 GMT

    Ravindra Jadeja is certainly a better spinner than Ashwin. Jadeja was easily out bowling Ashwin in the home series against the clueless Aussies. Ashwin's theater will never work in England, Aus, SA. Spinners need patience and good line and length on seamer friendly tracks which Ashwin cannot do. As far his success at home is concerned, I think anyone with some finger strength, who can rip the ball can get the job done..Raina too.

  • on August 20, 2013, 1:36 GMT

    When Bhajji struggled to perform and Ojha and Mishra have also failed to give any hopes, Ashwin debuted in test matches with a bang. Became India's frontline spinner in such short duration. He is thinking and more frequently rediscovering himself. when India was in trouble even in spin department adding to the woeful pace department, Ashwin is the one who gave some breath to the Indian bowling. He will surely go along way. People, pl stop blabbering he was not good in Aus, not done against Eng, etc.,

  • Johnny_129 on August 20, 2013, 0:21 GMT

    For India to succeed in SA, Ashwin's performance will be vital. He has been a success in the sub-continent and has an excellent work ethic. Not sure if pointing out batsman's weaknesses is a great idea though - I'm sure he will meet Michael Clarke in future matches! Best of luck to Ashwin.

  • ramz30380 on August 19, 2013, 21:26 GMT

    Its disheartening to see so many Ashwin bashers here! He has been consistent for India and lets not forget that. Every player has an off series but it is how you come back after that is wht counts. He did not perform to his potential against Eng but did the corrections, improvised and learnt from his mistakes to deliver the master punch against the Aussies.

    If everyone remembers right - he won the golden ball in CL T20 that was held in SA. So before people start talking think abt it at first. He will be lethal for sure in this tour. We all witnessed the disarray that the SAfs found themselves in when they toured SL - the case will be the same - Ashwin may not be very effective in the 1st 2 days but on the 4th & 5th day - he will come into play. Just wait & watch!

    He has taken 92 wickets from 16 test matches! That's exceptional for any bowler - Kumble is the fastest Indian to a 100 wkts and he did it in 21 matches - in all probabilities Ashwin will get there faster than him.

  • lakjak on August 19, 2013, 20:51 GMT

    He had a cemented place and future till Chika and Srini was there to support him. Now he is left with only MS to back him. Llet him better improve and be in team based on skills and avoid people ( just someone like me ) talking about the support from CSK to cement his berth

  • Cricfever_PM on August 19, 2013, 18:52 GMT

    Ashwin is doing good since he came into international cricket!! He tried to implement too many bowling options and succeed as well!! He bowled well in Champions trophy and his biggest challenge will come when India tours SA in Nov/Dec'13. He has to try most of variations and has to keep it tight against SA in seaming pitch. He is more than a handy all rounder who can really bat well in test cricket and his Avg is still above 35 which proves he is better than most of tailenders which is value add for his performance!!

  • MAYURESHmagic on August 19, 2013, 18:09 GMT

    flipper= don't hold ball with full grip of spinner, carrom ball googly= back of hand carrom ball.

  • Y.Kumar on August 19, 2013, 17:32 GMT

    Aswin could have got many more wickets but for being asked to contain batsmen whenever the opposition batsmen are in full cry. He should be appreciated for strictly following his team captain and delivering in most of the matches.

  • on August 19, 2013, 17:30 GMT

    Ashwin can only do well if bhajj also. Is back. In India he is good but overseas a big failure. So we need harbhajan and mishra along with him to succeed

  • Srini_Indian on August 19, 2013, 16:43 GMT

    @gsingh7: Ashwin is a very good bowler. How can you expect a spinner to succeed in seaming tracks when your batting folds regularly for under 200 as India did in that Aus tour? You can't expect a spinner who is playing his 1st tour abroad to spin a web across the opponents. He fared poorly against England but who didn't on that series? Your comment of Mishra, Ojha and Chawla better than Ashwin is laughable. With due respect to Harbhajan and as great bowler as he is, he really benefited from having a certain Kumble as his spin partner. His stats really nosedived when Kumble retired.

  • ramli on August 19, 2013, 12:41 GMT

    The proof of the pudding is in eating ... Only wickets got would justify anything ... Of course no harm in trying new variations ... only thing is to put them to good use without disrupting success rate ... We hope that Ashwin would have learned it by now after disastrous results in Aus and against Eng ... at present, he is not inferior to any other spinner in India and certainly superior in batting compared to all of them ...

  • gsingh7 on August 19, 2013, 11:05 GMT

    @mark-- that was wet outfield and it was only 20 over match. ashwin bowled excellent in 4 tests vs australia where he disintegrated australian batting to threads . 20 full days of test cricket is bigger sample to evaluate a bowler than 4 overs of a hit and giggle t20 match.dont u think??

  • mark2011 on August 19, 2013, 10:12 GMT

    Ashwin is trying too much ....is he expecting to take 6 wkts in his an over every time ?... we saw what happnd when he did too many things in the T20 Cup tournament match against Aus in 2012 , he got hammered all over the park by Watson/Warner..he is already doing so many variation, better to be accurate with what you have rather than doing too many things incorrectly.

  • binu.emiliya on August 19, 2013, 10:05 GMT

    Raveendra Jadeja is going to be the key bowler with Buvaneswar Kumar for the upcoming SA Series,and will be complimented by Zaheer Khan if he is fit

  • gsingh7 on August 19, 2013, 9:56 GMT

    as good as a bowler is ashwin, he still was a sitting duck in australia and in indian series vs england. when harbhajan was in top form , spinning department was quite potent and india won convincingly especially at home. ashwin should work on side spin first before becoming another mendis(we all know how mendis 's career went downhill). i will take mishra and chawla and ojha above ashwin any day.

  • LovedFansofIndianCricket on August 19, 2013, 8:08 GMT

    I like Ashwin for this. He does takes his place in XI granted. He knows there are other spinners especially Rasool. All other established player should learn lesson from Ashwin especially Raina. All the best Ashwin.

  • Naresh28 on August 19, 2013, 8:06 GMT

    As an Indian fan, it is very nice to know there is one thinking bowler in the team. Ashwin will evolve and become better. People say he tries too much, but I feel we should leave that up to him cause he will know what to do if he fails. An ideal replacement for Kumble in the team. India is fortunate in having Ashwin. In the longer run I hope his batting improves as well. Keep up the good work and lets lift our Test game.

  • jimbond on August 19, 2013, 7:38 GMT

    Had I been his place, I would have been trying to improve my stock delivery, and learn to pitch it on a spot, day in and day out. Also perhaps a little time spent on his batting, especially in negotiating steep bounce and pace.

  • hotcric01 on August 19, 2013, 6:34 GMT

    He is a good thinking cricketer.These variations may be very useful in the shorter versions of the game.But in test cricket,he should try to work on his stock delivery more and keep accuracy and put as much as spin on the ball.In overseas conditions,it is not easy to take so many wickets for a spinner because they are not spin friendly or slow pitches.Even murali hasn't had much success in Australia or South africa.Fast bowlers should do the job in these conditions.not ashwin.But he can play a good supporting role.But if he can extract some bounce in these pitches(with the advantage of his height) he can take more wickets like graham swann does.

  • naren1983 on August 19, 2013, 6:15 GMT

    Its good to see Ashwin trying new varieties. He also had proved, he is a quality spinner and taking regular wickets with his regular varieties right from open the bowling and to last over of the match. If he proves well in oversees where spinners find hard for the wickets, this will conclude he is a superior bowler, until that we have to wait & see. Now-a-days I see Amit Mishra has many varieties too with his leg breaks, googlies and took crucial wickets and conceding very less runs. With Jadeja as an all-rounder, these 3 going to be strength for bowling line-ups in next WC T 20 in Bangladesh where spin takes the lead.

  • Rajeshj on August 19, 2013, 6:08 GMT

    its good to see a learner among the new generation and one who tries to constantly evolve his skill.. It took so many years for Saeed Ajmal to be what he is now and I think Ashwin would reach that level sooner or later... the biggest problem with Bhajji was that he was too lazy to evolve his art.. Jadeja keeps it simple and gets his wickets, but they were in helpful conditions.. In not so helpful conditions, like in some t20 matches, he could be blasted out of the park.. if you keep it simple for too long, then you have lesser chances of survival..

  • binu.emiliya on August 19, 2013, 5:47 GMT

    Aswin is trying too much i think and Jadeja is just opposit of that..Jadeja bowls with accuracy and in between he is using his stock ball that is the arm ball he gets lot of LBWs and Bowled with his stock ball.Aswin is having lot of variations but some times he is bowling short,And Clarke was dismissed most by Jadeja not by Aswin

  • LovedFansofIndianCricket on August 19, 2013, 5:29 GMT

    I like Ashwin for this. He does takes his place in XI granted. He knows there are other spinners especially Rasool. All other established player should learn lesson from Ashwin especially Raina. All the best Ashwin.

  • BrianCharlesVivek on August 19, 2013, 5:28 GMT

    Come on Ashwin, you have 1 year gap between IPL and you can work on all these. Better selectors pick him for only home tests.

  • tanstell87 on August 19, 2013, 5:16 GMT

    good for Ashwin...he has to pick wickets in South Africa....Bhajji was lethal on India's last tour of SA in 2010/11 in tests...Ashwin has to pick wickets and should not be flat as he was in Australia early last year...

  • Sunman81 on August 19, 2013, 4:53 GMT

    I remember ashwin giving a similar interview ahead of England tour of India and we all know what had happened...He should develop patience for bowling in a test match...Swann gets wickets with his immaculate line and length... Ashwin will be a successful bowler abroad if he follows this instead of learning new variations...

  • Udendra on August 19, 2013, 4:37 GMT

    This is nice reading. It tells us that a left-armer's carrom-ball will leave a right-hander by default, and vice-versa. Contrary to the belief that it might go either way. But Mendis seems to possess that skill.

  • RISHI2016 on August 19, 2013, 4:28 GMT

    ashwin is a fighter however in this series against australia how many times did he bowl out clarke ??? too much of variations already needs to develop a stock ball

  • jango_moh on August 19, 2013, 3:30 GMT

    i hope he uses these variations wisely!!! they kind of cost him and india the series when eng came to india.... so i hope he sticks to the basics in tests on helpful wickets, and uses these outside india probably, imho!!!

  • ODI_BestFormOfCricket on August 19, 2013, 2:37 GMT

    in ODI's he bowls so many shorts. First, try to bowl in good line consistently using offbreak. Unless using the stock ball well, there is no use of 'new ball'

  • Viratkohlirocks on August 19, 2013, 0:57 GMT

    Doesn't Ashwin also have a googly? As long as he doesn't become like one of those mystery bowlers who will get trashed after like mendis, go on then Ashwin. in fact learn the slider

  • the_blue_android on August 18, 2013, 21:50 GMT

    I think Ashwin should learn how to bowl 5-6 balls of proper off-spin first! We all saw how ineffective he was against Aus in Aus and against England in India!

  • Nampally on August 18, 2013, 21:34 GMT

    Ashwin's bid to increase the variety of different balls he can bowl is commendable. But as an off spinner, his Main focus should be to improve his accuracy in flight variations, length & direction. If he can do this consistently with ability to spin the ball on any wicket, he will become a great off spinner. Murali did this & became the most successful bowler & highest wicket taker in the world. All these fancy recycled terms - "Doosra, Teesra, carom Ball, flipper, are nice to have. But with out consistent length & accuracy, none of these balls will fool a good batsman. There was a great bowler from Australia, Iverson, who came to India with Silver Jublee Overseas (SJO) team to India in 50's. He invented the so called carom ball & bowled it well. WI Off spinner Ramadhin, in 50's, bowled the leg spinner released between thumb & forefinger. He was called "mystery" bowler because he baffled England. Ramadhin & Iverson were accurate & succeeded. Ashwin's Keyword should be "ACCURACY" first

  • GreenDeviln on August 18, 2013, 19:54 GMT

    Side spin is the most important attribute for an off spinner against left-handers. Swann has mastered it and thus he can get left-handers out very easily. And as Ashwin is weak in the same his victim's list have few left-handers in it.

  • SamRoy on August 18, 2013, 18:34 GMT

    All that is fine, first learn how not to lose patience when you are not getting wickets. Ashwin's biggest weakness has been he experiment's too much when he doesn't get success. It is important to maintain pressure even if you are not getting wickets. In SA people like Kallis, Amla and ABD won't give away their wickets easily. And subtle variations, in spin, grip, pace and flight get quality test batsman out not carrom balls! Those are meant for polishing of tailenders.

  • on August 18, 2013, 18:23 GMT

    Why is he spilling the beans? I would have never opened the secrets had I been in his position. However, this interview can also be his pre-defined plan. Now, batsmen might over-think about the plans in Ashwin's mind rather than concentrating on their next shot and lose their wicket in the process. Ashwin is exploiting a good combination of mind games and bowling techniques I'd reckon.

  • on August 18, 2013, 18:23 GMT

    Why is he spilling the beans? I would have never opened the secrets had I been in his position. However, this interview can also be his pre-defined plan. Now, batsmen might over-think about the plans in Ashwin's mind rather than concentrating on their next shot and lose their wicket in the process. Ashwin is exploiting a good combination of mind games and bowling techniques I'd reckon.

  • SamRoy on August 18, 2013, 18:34 GMT

    All that is fine, first learn how not to lose patience when you are not getting wickets. Ashwin's biggest weakness has been he experiment's too much when he doesn't get success. It is important to maintain pressure even if you are not getting wickets. In SA people like Kallis, Amla and ABD won't give away their wickets easily. And subtle variations, in spin, grip, pace and flight get quality test batsman out not carrom balls! Those are meant for polishing of tailenders.

  • GreenDeviln on August 18, 2013, 19:54 GMT

    Side spin is the most important attribute for an off spinner against left-handers. Swann has mastered it and thus he can get left-handers out very easily. And as Ashwin is weak in the same his victim's list have few left-handers in it.

  • Nampally on August 18, 2013, 21:34 GMT

    Ashwin's bid to increase the variety of different balls he can bowl is commendable. But as an off spinner, his Main focus should be to improve his accuracy in flight variations, length & direction. If he can do this consistently with ability to spin the ball on any wicket, he will become a great off spinner. Murali did this & became the most successful bowler & highest wicket taker in the world. All these fancy recycled terms - "Doosra, Teesra, carom Ball, flipper, are nice to have. But with out consistent length & accuracy, none of these balls will fool a good batsman. There was a great bowler from Australia, Iverson, who came to India with Silver Jublee Overseas (SJO) team to India in 50's. He invented the so called carom ball & bowled it well. WI Off spinner Ramadhin, in 50's, bowled the leg spinner released between thumb & forefinger. He was called "mystery" bowler because he baffled England. Ramadhin & Iverson were accurate & succeeded. Ashwin's Keyword should be "ACCURACY" first

  • the_blue_android on August 18, 2013, 21:50 GMT

    I think Ashwin should learn how to bowl 5-6 balls of proper off-spin first! We all saw how ineffective he was against Aus in Aus and against England in India!

  • Viratkohlirocks on August 19, 2013, 0:57 GMT

    Doesn't Ashwin also have a googly? As long as he doesn't become like one of those mystery bowlers who will get trashed after like mendis, go on then Ashwin. in fact learn the slider

  • ODI_BestFormOfCricket on August 19, 2013, 2:37 GMT

    in ODI's he bowls so many shorts. First, try to bowl in good line consistently using offbreak. Unless using the stock ball well, there is no use of 'new ball'

  • jango_moh on August 19, 2013, 3:30 GMT

    i hope he uses these variations wisely!!! they kind of cost him and india the series when eng came to india.... so i hope he sticks to the basics in tests on helpful wickets, and uses these outside india probably, imho!!!

  • RISHI2016 on August 19, 2013, 4:28 GMT

    ashwin is a fighter however in this series against australia how many times did he bowl out clarke ??? too much of variations already needs to develop a stock ball

  • Udendra on August 19, 2013, 4:37 GMT

    This is nice reading. It tells us that a left-armer's carrom-ball will leave a right-hander by default, and vice-versa. Contrary to the belief that it might go either way. But Mendis seems to possess that skill.