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CSA-BCCI impasse likely to end

Firdose Moonda and Amol Karhadkar

February 3, 2014

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Haroon Lorgat, the ICC chief executive, at the annual conference, Kuala Lumpur, June 26, 2012
If CSA support the ICC revamp, Haroon Lorgat could resume attending ICC meetings and CSA's dealings with BCCI © Getty Images
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Cricket South Africa and BCCI have resumed discussions about a possible patch-up that may result in the former supporting the ICC revamp in exchange of the CSA chief executive Haroon Lorgat being reintegrated into top administration.

If the discussions end positively, then it is possible that not only could CSA vote in favour of the proposed ICC overhaul but also that Lorgat resumes attending ICC meetings and CSA's dealings with their Indian counterpart. More importantly, India and South Africa could be seen in action against each more frequently than over the last few years.

While a South Africa cricket insider claimed that the BCCI had made "an offer" to CSA, a BCCI administrator maintained they haven't "offered anything to anyone" for supporting the Big Three (the boards of India, England and Australia) proposal that is likely to be voted on during a special ICC Board meeting on Dubai over the weekend.

The BCCI insider, on the other hand, conceded that CSA and Lorgat are keen to patch up with the BCCI and have informally approached them. Since the decision on Lorgat is an "ICC resolution", the BCCI "cannot do anything", according to him. Though it couldn't be ascertained independently whether ICC has passed a resolution against Lorgat, his role in former ICC head of legal David Becker's statements during the BCCI-CSA impasse is being probed by an independent ICC panel.

CSA's turnaround in their stance is significant since they were the first full member to oppose the Big Three proposal that would alter the dynamics of international cricket's governance. CSA, in a statement ahead of the January 28 ICC Board meeting, had appealed to the ICC president Alan Isaac to withdraw the proposal.

In the course of informal discussions, CSA and BCCI are believed to be discussing more bilateral series. The CSA chief executive's appointment and the allegedly unilateral announcement of the itinerary for India's tour to South Africa led to the relations between the two boards reaching an all-time low. The BCCI agreed for a curtailed tour only after CSA withdrew Lorgat from all the ICC and BCCI-related matters.

This breakdown in relations between the BCCI and CSA was followed by the Big Three leaving CSA in the dark about the proposed revamp as well as the sideline meetings around the ICC Board meeting in Dubai last week.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent. Amol Karhadkar is a correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by sysubrceq0 on (February 4, 2014, 19:58 GMT)

Sri Lnaka is a most unthankful country, India played countless matches from past 5 years to help SLCB from bankrupt in return India always get hate from SLCB, Ex- SL players and Current SL players and SL fans. from Sub-continent the best teams are IND > PAK > SL > BCB.

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 17:46 GMT)

With SA falling in line and India is in a position to ignore SL and PCB. But I believe BCCI will work out a deal with SLC also just to be safer. While I am an Indian and absolutely against this proposal, I feel sorry for Pak and hope they do vote in favor. Ppl who think the Big 3 alone will have any series against Pak are mistaken. BCCI will simply tell other boards to stop playing with Pak or say bye bye to Indian tours and everyone will fall in line just like now.

Inspite of their pathetic batting, Pak does decently due to some decent bowling attack. I wish they do vote in favor so that atleast they can play cricket. I do like to see talented bowlers as much as I like to see our talented batsmen.

Posted by   on (February 4, 2014, 14:50 GMT)

South Africa is the one which will lose most if they don't join the big three.Lorgat is NOT at all the issue. IThat is a non-issue, but can be used as a face to hide behind their dire need for money. The money they can gain from Champions' Trophy; and IPLs when they need to be shifted, is so huge that there is no way they can ignore it. Sri Lanka keeps on forgetting the number of times BCCI had lent a helping hand to financially survive -- to such an extent, every one started getting tired of India-Sri Lanka contests!

Playing in one's own country against good teams is what brings in most revenue. Pakistan's domestic situation, (and the Sri Lankan Team's shooting episode) depry them of that benefit. Quite unfortunately, I would say. Their good cricketers need more forums to display their talents. For lack of visits, Pak will not be affected in any significant way if the proposal is accepted or rejected. Their helplessness can be used to play a "an ethical stand on a high moral ground"

Posted by Manoj1234 on (February 4, 2014, 11:55 GMT)

@night_fury - Well Said. I think all this India bashing that is going on doesn't seem to be based on facts and reasoning. We are the WC champs. Also all those calling us Flat track bullies, its still a equal opportunity wicket. How come they lose so badly? Is it a lack of talent?

Posted by Night_Fury on (February 4, 2014, 10:42 GMT)

To all those who think that Cricket will get killed, i have only one question. Do you think BCCI will kill gold laying goose to be murdered. Absolutely No. Infact by allocating or getting more fund in India, it will only help in developing game in India. To all PAK and SL fans, i know you guys just want to bash and crib about India and Indian cricket team, but this same team won WC and Champions Trophy as well, one in Indian sub-continent beating Pak in Semis and SL in Finals, and the other in England beating all the teams hands down. Every good team has ups and downs but i only see down and down for SL and PAK. :)). Pak batting is sub-standard and SL too much dependent on sanga and jaya. Dont understand how thay all boast so much,

Posted by reality_check on (February 4, 2014, 9:52 GMT)

@CricIndia208

Since India is behind Pakistan in all time head-to-head in tests and ODI's, India will forever stay behind Pakistan if India takes your advise and decides never to play Pakistan in future.

Thumping the chest now won't change this little fact.

Posted by loonykiwirocker on (February 4, 2014, 9:47 GMT)

@humi_cric - love your reply mate. Excellent response to an embarrassing post from CricIndia208.

Posted by srinideva on (February 4, 2014, 9:31 GMT)

@humi_cric & Cric_Lover_PAKI , both of you living in the past glorious days. Look at the Pak test team. they were beaten by ZIM. People love to watch pak play cricket because of their pathetic show in the test matches are more interesting. because you never what to expect from them. Even SL beat Pakistan in UAE. Ind never lost a match against Pak in WC. where it matters most Ind always dominated the Pakistan team. India can live without Pak. We don`t want them IPL too..Have a great time.

Posted by kamran85 on (February 4, 2014, 9:23 GMT)

@cricindia208 It looks funny comment. Yes india should not play against Pak because they lose last series played after too much time. This type of losing not good for india as they mostly win in India but lost against Pak in india.

Posted by KhilenNaidoo on (February 4, 2014, 9:03 GMT)

CricIndia208

Your thoughts are not your own and are those of your predecessors. You are a victim of manipulation and sadly in India cricket (Srinivasen) defines the way you think. When you learn to think for yourself and you are able to separate politics between countries for the benefit of the game, please post something. Other than that stay a loyal fan, because in the end that's all you will be a blind brainwashed fan of India. It is the IPL and its money that brings international players to India, providing more exposure to Indian players but even with that, Indian players are nothing but "Flat track bullies." Test cricket is the ultimate challenge of cricket, and the 2 best teams going forward will always be Australia, South Africa with India / England fighting for third. Unless the spineless ICC gives into a draft proposal, then we will have many changes to favour India. Indian fans will always love a cheap victory on a "Flat boring track".

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