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A harsh lesson for Pakistan to learn

The conviction of Butt and Asif is welcome, but the fight against corruption in cricket has just begun

Saad Shafqat

November 1, 2011

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Mohammad Asif arrives at the Southwark Crown Court to hear the verdicts, London, November 1, 2011
Pakistan cricket is lying with its underbelly bared in the blinding glare of spectator attention and media spotlight © AFP
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Predictably the conviction of Salman Butt and Mohammad Asif on cricket corruption charges is producing hurt, bitterness, resentment and embarrassment in Pakistan. Former cricketers have appeared on television saying it is all a matter of shame. Fans are angry Pakistani stars have been ensnared by the British legal and penal system.

These are natural emotions provoked by unprecedented events, but sometimes you have to chop off a gangrenous limb to save a life. Losing the limb is painful, even debilitating. Yet it must be done for survival. Pakistan's convicted spot-fixers represent the gangrene that had been eroding the fabric of Pakistan's game. It hardly seems a coincidence that, following their exit from the team, Pakistan's fortunes on the field have improved.

Just as the salvaged patient and his family need to be grateful to the surgeon who performs the amputation, Pakistan cricket and those who love it owe a debt of gratitude to the News of the World and its clever investigative team. Were it not for this now-defunct tabloid's brilliant sting, we would still be in denial.

Over the years, several other cricketing names have been implicated in the treacherous schemes of rigged cricket outcomes, but prior to today nothing had been proven in this manner. South Africa captain Hansie Cronje's being convicted resulted from a confession, not prosecution. By far the most important reason why Butt and Asif are now facing prison terms is the penetrating quality of the media exposé that brought them down. Pakistani fans who are upset that their compatriots have been specifically targeted should understand that ultimately Butt and Asif fell victim to the weight of the evidence against them, not to any kind of national or other form of discrimination.

Corruption is notoriously difficult to establish. At one level this means that whatever is proven in a court of law, like today, represents the tip of the iceberg. Judging from the copious amounts of hearsay and innuendo related to match-fixing and spot-fixing that cricket followers have experienced in recent years, it could be a very large iceberg indeed. They may be the only ones who have been caught, but it is likely Butt and Asif are not the only ones involved, and this is surely not the only instance.

A major benefit of this guilty verdict is its value as a deterrent for would-be fixers. Butt and Asif are crooks on a grand scale, and must be sentenced and stigmatised accordingly. Granted they are not murderers or violent criminals, but they heartlessly trampled the innocent expectations of a hopeful nation. That is a close second.

The fight against corruption in cricket is far from over. In fact - with due respect to the ICC's ACSU and other related efforts to date - it has quite possibly just begun. Implications of the verdict against Butt and Asif are multiple and far-reaching, starting with the paradigm shift that corruption in cricket is no longer just a conspiracy theory. Take a moment to let that sink in. We have cherished cricket as a gentleman's game and revered it as a metaphor for morality. It is neither. Yet berating cricket as a sport would be the equivalent of blaming the victim of a rape. The fault lies with corrupt players and the corrupt bookies who entice, seduce and mislead them.

 
 
It is fortunate that the dynamics of the situation have taken the matter out of Pakistan's hands. Pakistani Test cricketers are about to go to jail in a foreign country for something they did on the field of play. This is not something you can brush under the carpet
 

Significantly this verdict provides an opening into the demand side of spot-fixing's supply-demand equation. So far all the anti-corruption hoopla from cricket administrators has focused on the dishonest players who provide the spot-fixing services. The crooked gamblers and shady punters who have created such an overwhelming demand for these services have been left untouched. The ICC and its member cricket boards now have an ideal opportunity to expand investigative probes into this murky betting underworld. They will have at their disposal powerful global entities such as Interpol, as well as local law enforcement agencies in all the Test-playing nations. At the core of rigged cricket betting is an engine of organised crime. It must be searched out wherever it exists, and it must be killed. And safeguards must be put in place that provide the game with enduring protection from this evil. A good deal has already been done in this regard, but Butt's and Asif's guilt reveals that it has not been enough.

Pakistan cricket has proved itself to be resilient before, and in all likelihood will do so yet again. Since the forfeited Oval Test of 2006, this team has suffered doping scandals, petty administrators, a coach found inexplicably dead in his hotel room, terrorism against a visiting team, and - for the foreseeable future - inability to play at home. The team's upswing following last year's infamous Lord's Test, when the spot-fixing disgrace initially broke, suggests it has moved on.

This is a welcome sign, but it comes with a critical caveat: nothing is to be gained by moving on unless there are lessons learned. In a sense it is fortunate that the dynamics of the situation have taken the matter out of Pakistan's hands. Pakistani Test cricketers are about to go to jail in a foreign country for something they did on the field of play. This is not something you can brush under the carpet. It is a lesson that will be learned, even if forcibly. Circumstances leave little choice.

Apart from Butt and Asif, other Pakistan players have been named. None of them is currently in the team. Depending on the continuing fallout of this ongoing crisis, they could remain sitting out for a long time, perhaps forever. Pakistan cricket is lying with its underbelly bared in the blinding glare of spectator attention and media spotlight. Forget actual wrong-doing, this team cannot risk even the remote perception of wrong-doing. That, if nothing else, promises to keep tricky behaviour in check. That can only be good news for Pakistan cricket and its fans.

Saad Shafqat is a writer based in Karachi

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Posted by gracegift on (November 4, 2011, 10:06 GMT)

@blade_pakkiri: Exactly! And the corruption would have gone on and on. We wonder why there is so much crime in Pakistan. Because criminals are sheltered here. Kudos to the English for bringing them to justice. Should have got harsher terms, though. Not sure if1 or 2 years is enough of a deterrent. 19-20 year-olds will still have a career, after they serve a year or two, in some t20 league.

Posted by manchesterexpress on (November 3, 2011, 18:32 GMT)

Hello All,

As a long standing cricket fan and moreover a long standing fan of the unpredictability of Pakistan cricket, the sentences passed upon Butt and Asif, were harsh but a reflection of how such behaviour cannot be tolerated anymore by society at large. A reasonable article by Saad but to suggest that all Pakistan cricketers are tainted by this affair is a particularly unhelpful stance. Pakistan cricket needs support not morons such as Vaughan et al making uneducated, ill-informed and highly moralising statments when little account is given for extenutating circumstances. Those circumstances revolve around the cultural element to this matter that many have forgotten. It wasnt that long ago that both Geoff Lawson and Imran Khan stated in very informative pieces that when a young lad as Amir are asked to partake in nefarious activities that will/may help their village in Pakistan, what does an relatively underpaid (compared to cricketers in Eng/Aus) do??

Posted by Third_Gear on (November 3, 2011, 17:54 GMT)

A New WORLD RECORD set by pakistan.

Posted by RockyAnIndianFan on (November 3, 2011, 17:36 GMT)

Hey Sharuk Khan, you very much wanted Pakistan Players in IPL right. Why? To bring corruption to IPL? Why you always support Pakistan? Because you are actually a Pakistani? You born and bought up here, you became famus because of Indians but Pher bhi dil hey Hindustani?

Posted by blade_pakkiri on (November 3, 2011, 13:05 GMT)

These guys made a mistake by flying to the UK to stand trial. They were already banned by the ICC. So why would they risk imprisonment and stand trial. They should have just refused to travel and refused to testify. In Pakistan they wouldn't have faced trial. Now they run the risk of jail terms.

Posted by gujratwalla on (November 3, 2011, 12:21 GMT)

This is the most shameful day in Pakistan's Cricketing history.These three have disgraced Pakistan and do not deserve any sympathy.Pakistan cricket will survive but the image of the nation will remain tarnished for many years.

Posted by   on (November 3, 2011, 11:13 GMT)

Eventhough i feel bad for the players i can't help but think that this is justice. They cheated and they are goin to have to be doing their time, sad but true. Good Luck Pakistan, without these 3 players, you will need it.

Posted by   on (November 3, 2011, 10:33 GMT)

Why Pakistan.... it just that 3 players.. Pakistan always served Cricket sincerely .. 3 players corrupted doesnt mean that All Pakistan is Involved .. Very poor Article..

Posted by   on (November 3, 2011, 3:14 GMT)

I would be devastated if it were my own heros going to jail, BUT I would be equally apalled if they cheated, and made idiots of millions of fans who passionately follow the game, whether paying to watch or not.

We don't need cheats parading as role models for our kids. And Pakistan could certainly do with some proper role models for their nation, and the people of Pakistan would do well to realize that and do something about it.

Posted by   on (November 3, 2011, 2:44 GMT)

Agree with the general consensus of the previous posts. Not too sure about the article's suggestion to concentrate on erradicating the demand side of the match fixing equation. Though I completely support taking steps to crack down on bookies and those who fuel the fire of spot and match fixing demand, it would be a highly impractical endeavour to put too much effort into these types of activities. The task would be tedious, bookies too widespread, and a mess in terms of balancing international legal red tape. The best, most effective way of preventing spot-fixing and like activites is to focus on the supply side, and impose the maximum penalty possible on the players and administrators who choose to engage in them. Put a high enough price on it and the vast majority of players will not entertain the idea - then, no matter how many bookies or organised crime syndicates you have, it won't make a difference.

Posted by Woody111 on (November 3, 2011, 1:06 GMT)

Several years jail time is not appropriate here, far more impacting crimes receive lesser sentences than those being proposed. Each player has had their career finished; thereby the livelihood of them and their family. That is punishment enough in my view. It is not up the courts to send a message to potenitally corrupt cricketers - it is up to cricketing bodies. While the PCB may not be complicit in the spot fixing their treatment and payment of players influenced this. Stark, open your eyes mate; don't play the victim card here.

Posted by AjayB on (November 3, 2011, 0:58 GMT)

It is absolutely sad to see this surfeit of talent just go haywire. I would not blame the young cricketers but the administration. It may sound odd, but these are very young and impressionable kids who could easily be misled. It is the administration that is closing its eyes and letting them wander. All the other countries that have been doing well with far less talent (read India) have a good structure in place. Do what is needed, send these kids to India and let the senior players mentor them. It is very very unfair to hang them to dry because if such a thing could and did happen, the administration is either complicit or totally ignorant. Why not hand the team manager and the PCB chief in office at that time too? I feel for these young players - regardless of the enormity of the perceived crime. I get a feeling the cricket administration in pakistan is failing its players again and again and again. Address that issue first.

Posted by   on (November 2, 2011, 20:42 GMT)

although pakistan lost so many players but results of team since this incidence have been much better.so what ever happened was blessing in disguise.

Posted by   on (November 2, 2011, 20:08 GMT)

its a harh lesson for every sportsmen / team not only for Pakistan.

Posted by   on (November 2, 2011, 19:07 GMT)

This is a lesson for these 3 players and warning for any player who is still at large. I feel sorry for Amer not because what he did but he had such a great career infront of him but all that greed took it away from him. Even if he bounces back to the world of cricket in future he won't get the same love and respect he used to get from his supporters. He will be one talented but a disgraced player.

Posted by   on (November 2, 2011, 18:43 GMT)

Jail terms are the only way to resolve this. Lessons need to be learnt that this does not FLY!

I'm liking the outlook of the Pakistan team right now....we don't need Butt, Asif or even the disappointing Mohammed Amir :(

we have tonnes of talent. Just need to strengthen that middle order to prepare for the retirement of Misbah and Younis.

Posted by johnathonjosephs on (November 2, 2011, 18:24 GMT)

To be completely honest.... This had to be done... A simple ban like Hanse Cronje had would not deter players that much, but add a jail sentence and public humiliation and I bet you lots of players won't be keen to match fix again. Had to be done and it is the right punishment, but I just wish they weren't that harsh on Amir, that boy had so much potential and more than likely, 5 years might harm him than do him good. Though, making a harsh punishment on the young Amir will illustrate that even the young and naive cannot escape punishment

Posted by Ehaan on (November 2, 2011, 18:01 GMT)

All three are guilty send them to jail, they are sorry are not but must be regretting that thay have been caught, if thay never been caught thay still be doing it.

Posted by mustufa on (November 2, 2011, 15:46 GMT)

I think at the end of the day, justice has been done. Lets move on. Banning them for life for spot fixing sounds a bit too out there. If there is evidence that they fixed the result of a game, then sure go ahead and ban tem for life.

Posted by   on (November 2, 2011, 14:50 GMT)

My previous post appears to have been lost, hence this re-post.

It is quite right that Messrs Asif, Amir and Butt have been found guilty. It would most emphatically not however be right for them to have prison sentences. They have been greedy and foolish, sure, but: (i) they constitute no threat to society, in the UK or elsewhere; (ii) they cannot repeat their offence(s); (iii) they are already reviled and regarded as objects of contempt, even in Pakistan. A long period of Community Service, perhaps working with young and aspiring cricketers in London, where they could transmit their superb skills, and the ethics of the game, would be appropriate.

Posted by amitgarg78 on (November 2, 2011, 14:12 GMT)

Sad day for the game! But indeed, the right result to the case and for a better future of the game.

Posted by Happy_AusBang on (November 2, 2011, 11:05 GMT)

James, there may be sooome hope for Amir as he confessed very soon while the other two kept on denying until the very end. I still feel there should be a harsh punishment even for Amir, but not to the extent that we are completely deprived of him. I think the senior Butt should be charged (I mean Ijaz Butt), not in a criminal sense, rather more in a disciplinary sense for bringing disrepute to Pakistan cricket by reacting in such a childish manner when confronted with this in the first place.

Posted by Haleos on (November 2, 2011, 11:03 GMT)

Very well written article Saad. Hope fans come out of denail. Amazed to see support for Amir. He is no kid and deserves the harshest punishment as per law. Being poor is not a justification for cheating. If he was pressurised he should have approched the PCB/ICC/Afridi/ACSU etc.

Posted by iBilal on (November 2, 2011, 11:03 GMT)

Being a Pakistani and an avid cricket fan, I'm sad that cricket lovers had to see this day. But this has to be done as it will serve as deterrent for future cricketers... But again, I think jail term is too much for deliberate no balls... Ive seen people getting less than 7years for murder

Posted by Tarzansree on (November 2, 2011, 11:02 GMT)

Amir should be given a second chance even if he is guilty. The administrators should have taken care of that teenager and protected him. Put a huge fine on him and give him a 2nd chance... i am an Indian fan who always support pakistan when they are not playing against india.

Posted by ncurd on (November 2, 2011, 10:50 GMT)

This isn't jail sentences for no balls, this is jail sentences for conspiracy to defraud the public and bookmakers attempting to gain significant financial reward for doing so. It's crime of the highest magnitude before physically harming another and as such should be have tough penalties.

Posted by   on (November 2, 2011, 9:35 GMT)

Why We would have to wait for the hen to lay her egg every day.lets kill her to have all the golden eggs inside.....and they had no more golden eggs.........

Moral: Never be greedy with bad ambitions and dirt desires. Confess, seek and pray. Be calm, gentle, humble and stable.....

Posted by MozCricket on (November 2, 2011, 9:27 GMT)

No sympathy at all. I am hoping that they get maximum sentences. Pakistan cricket has no real intent to clean up the game- give them 7+2 years in jail and the message just might start to register with these low-life scum that seek to undermine our great game. Amir go to jail as well and ponder the wonderful opportunity and life you have just wasted.... good riddance from cricket

Posted by mojo121 on (November 2, 2011, 9:23 GMT)

Iam glad they are banned from cricket because they betrayed with his own country so no mercy for them and pcb should ban them from local cricket aswel how come they decieve beautiful country,pakistan gave them name and because of pakistan every body know them they make me evey upset,Iam from Afghanistan but i was born in pakistan i love pakistan and i love pakistan team like a made when pakistan lose match i get really upset i hope like that never happen again my pray is always with pakistan and inshallah pakistan will win next world cup

Posted by Rahul_78 on (November 2, 2011, 6:57 GMT)

Only silver lining to this very, very sad and extremely hurtful affair to us cricket fans is world cricket wont and should not miss out on another Amer in future to the pressure of evil individuals and to the allure of black money.

Posted by   on (November 2, 2011, 6:57 GMT)

If the ICC want to crack down on corruption they could match the legal system's stance on match fixing by banning Asif and Butt from all forms of the game for life. Asif's age is irrelevant and if anything he should be made into a poster boy for the anti-corruption push by the ICC that highlights how a promising player can have their career cut short because they tried to make a few quick dollars. Integrity is everything because if players can't trust that their teammates are out there on the field to give their best, then how can spectators trust that the result of a game is legitimate? Cricket would have lost if people started questioning the result of every match because the ICC continued to let corruption go unchecked.

Posted by Third_Gear on (November 2, 2011, 6:51 GMT)

Very shameful for all pakistanis. What else remains to see God knows.

Posted by TheOnlyEmperor on (November 2, 2011, 6:12 GMT)

Jailing sportsmen for corruption is the right way to go about cleaning up the system. If we don't then a sportsman with a not so bright career/future in sport may be tempted to turn corrupt for high returns, if he knows that he can get away with a ban or a minor penalty on being caught if at all. Betting is a vice and when vice is allowed entry into sports - legally or illegally, the consequences are definitely going to be dirty. Stronger policing and quick tough action will always be able to crack down on any vice before it can grow stronger and take the upper hand...and when it does vice done through temptation moves towards coercion. Sportsmen and administrators irrespective of age, nationality or stature should be cracked down if they are corrupt.

Posted by Shivh on (November 2, 2011, 6:08 GMT)

I totally feel that they should go to Jail for what they did. I also feel that Pakistan should also charge them for betraying the whole nation. Mind you they represent Pakistan National Cricket Team.I come from India and some time ago I use to look at them with great fascination for what they use to do with the ball and batsmen. Now even I feel cheated. Forget about a common Pakistani budding cricketer and a common man. I can't imagine how Pakistanis will be feeling. Pakistan should not take this judgment as something which has been done to them with prejudice. This is law and they are convicted based on law.

Posted by   on (November 2, 2011, 5:58 GMT)

The court has done right thing,but why this rude behaviour is only against pakistan. Now is the question of Amir i think the 18yr boy can do anything, he is also from the poor family you should think about him

Posted by   on (November 2, 2011, 5:24 GMT)

no mercy, they should be punished severly.they have defamed the game of cricket and more important they spoil pakistan cricket. they cheated the fans in and outside of pakistan. they should be given harsh treatment.........

Posted by   on (November 2, 2011, 5:10 GMT)

sooooooo sad bout amir....... im an auzzie and he was going to be the best bowler within the next gen... i mean swinging it both ways at 145km/h!!!!!!! i would love to see him back again

Posted by   on (November 2, 2011, 3:50 GMT)

I just can't seem to get around the fact that the players are to face jail sentence. It is true that, the offense they committed is a crime nonetheless. But, these guys who come from a working family background, who have put in lot of effort to achieve what they did (prior to fixing). One mistake (huge one, cheating the spectator) has nullified everything, i mean everything of their achievement prior to fixing. Whether it happened because of circumstances or individual fallabilities, the game is at loss by losing out on couple of amazing players. PCB should have been little more proactive, which could've saved this embarrassmentto the game.

Posted by iphone1 on (November 2, 2011, 2:52 GMT)

@Stark62.people like you will never believe it because you don't want to believe it. as another reader pointed out, I hope these convicted players come out with some sort of confession so that the big fishes can be caught. I completely agree with jail terms for match fixing/spot fixing. Hopefully this will deter upcoming youngsters from doing anything silly.

Posted by Y2SJ on (November 2, 2011, 2:43 GMT)

They should have been banned from playing professional cricket for life. What ever term they are sentenced to wont be an eye opener to them. if they are let off after 5 years, they will do the same.

Posted by rustyryan on (November 2, 2011, 2:24 GMT)

I never expected that these players might end up in jail. C'mon it has happened in past and none of them were imprisoned. Banning them from the team is okay, but Prison for no-balls? I'm unable to digest this. I'm not from Pakistan.

Posted by   on (November 2, 2011, 2:19 GMT)

To be honest, I absolutely don't mind them going to the jail for years! They have cheated on us, though I would be a tad lenient if these guys can actually reveal everyone else involved so that even the roots of corruption can be removed from the sport. You would have to be too naive to think that it is just limited to these three. It was just a matter of fact that these three were the ones caught by a sting operation (after all, sting operations don't happen everyday!) And GREEDINESS is not just limited to one country or one nation but it is everywhere... Want a thorough investigation to be undertaken for others too (Don't understand why Majeed's other statements regarding other players fixing are not taken seriously?!?!?!)

Posted by getsetgopk on (November 2, 2011, 1:39 GMT)

As Pakistani's we should all be thankful to the british legal system and News of the world. They spent their own resources to thow our fixers out, whatelse do we want? I for one would not accept anything less than see these three handcuffed, put in a police van and sent to prison. I dont want any of these three ever set foot on a cricket field not even Amir. And I dont want Amir winning the odd game for us just because the offer was not a good one, there are far better players to replace these cheaters. In future ICC should take a more proactive role, I dont think the PCB can be trusted to take any action against its players but the ICC should immediately handover a life ban if they get a sniff of any players fixing matches. Im sad not because they caught the cheaters but because these cheaters tarnished the honor of the country and of the great game we all care about so much.

Posted by bumsonseats on (November 1, 2011, 23:44 GMT)

if the icc staement on another page is right. these guys could be sent to prison for 5 years come out and start playing cricket how nuts is that. the icc live in a little world of their own. they should never play cricket again, hard but others will think twice before doing similar. dpk

Posted by   on (November 1, 2011, 23:25 GMT)

Looks like we have all been watching movies for all these years be it Hollywood, Bollywood, Mollywood or WillowWood. Too much wood in our brains !

Posted by inzisaloos on (November 1, 2011, 22:42 GMT)

I am thrilled about the verdict. However, as Saad Shafqat alludes to, I hope this case delves further and helps to provide answers to other questions that have emerged as part of the trial. What, for instance, will happen to any investigation of Pakistan's tour of Autralia in which so many accusations of fixing were levelled, including ones by the agent Mazhar Majeed? Will other Pakistani players, some still in the Pakistan squad, mentioned during the case in relation to fixing be investigated, either by the PCB or the ICC? In addition, I wonder if any of the convicted players will 'sing' once the realisation hits them that they are being punished for a crime that others too have been in on in past fixes. In many ways this case feels like the start of something rather than closure as some have rather naively stated.

Posted by Rukus_NZ on (November 1, 2011, 22:01 GMT)

Such a shame!! I remember seeing Amir playing in NZ and he was so good, in fact maybe the best pace bowler of his generation and he has gone and..... well we all know he is never coming back now.... He was hand picked by Waquar and had all the skill to becoming one of the best bowlers in the world... I feel sorry for the kid but thats life, play with fire and you will get burnt

Posted by maddy20 on (November 1, 2011, 21:35 GMT)

@Stark62 Another hallucinating Pakistani fan. Those guys intercepted phone messages. Infact phone hacking was what landed News of the world in a soup and that is why they are defunct. I can't help but wonder why you guys think "If there is a problem, blame somebody else". As for the jail terms I hear that the laws against corruption in sports are pretty tough in the UK. So the punishment handed to them is per the law over there.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (November 1, 2011, 20:49 GMT)

@ Stark62. As libinbond has already commented, you just don't get it! It was absolutely certain that someone woud play the anti-Pakistani card and you have! Let's be absolutely clear: what Butt and Asif have done was morally bankrupt, totally illegal, and has done a huge disservice to cricket across the world and frankly they will now JUSTLY be subject to the learned judge's sentencing. Whichever country they had come from, the justice is the same and takes no account of race, religion, privilege, etc. that is what is called being equal in the eyes of the law and why UK is, by world standards, a law-abiding country. It is of inestimable importance that corruption is stamped out, but I fear, like a bush fire, it goes underground and will surface again and again. Several other Pakistani players were mentioned in court, but cannot be prosecuted as there is, as yet, insufficient evidence. Let's hope that it comes to light and there is a clean sweep. Cricket deserves no less, right? Stark62

Posted by JerryJose on (November 1, 2011, 20:19 GMT)

The punishment should have provisions for removing the cricketing records against the guilty players

Posted by SamAsh07 on (November 1, 2011, 20:11 GMT)

I'm really happy to see that they are banned and might possibly be jailed for 7 years, crime in sports should be treated very harshly, only then will people understand the consequences and stay away from it. I loved watching Amir & Asif bowl their magical deliveries but...what they did was completely wrong, I salute to Amir for accepting what he did and not take the case any further, that poor guy was lured into the trap and was stabbed hard, I'd say give him one last chance because of young age and all...but if that happens I don't know what he'll do in the future....moving on, Pakistans fortunes really have changed for the better after these 3's departure! In Taufeeq Umar & Hafeez, we've found an excellent opening pair, so Butt is no longer needed, and in Cheema, Junaid and Gul, we've another great pace attack, I'm sure Junaid will become the new Amir (in terms of skill mind you, not controversy). Stark62 - We don't need these 3 players, we've a better team now.

Posted by doosra95 on (November 1, 2011, 20:04 GMT)

It has nothing to do with nationality it is the greed of these player that has caught them out these crooks who have disgraced Pakistan and Pakistanis all over the world. These shame less cricketers, as a Pakistani cricket fan I'm glad they have been caught, never again this should occur, hope the key to their cell will be lost once they are inside. All true Pakistani cricket fan must stop this thing about that being why only Pakistani cricketers are getting caught are they so naive and stupid as to how they behave abroad once they step out of Pakistan, all these cricketers need to grow up and PCB need to be strong but like others that's a dream, I hope the new chairman brings some new positive and strong changes to Pakistani cricket and Employs PR man on behalf Pakistani cricket players and management so as to change the tarnished Image of Pakistani cricket for good.Over all it is a good day for cricket and bad one for Pakistan.Crooks got caught red handed.

Posted by   on (November 1, 2011, 19:57 GMT)

These guys were not in Pakistani wrestling team ...you know not making a lot of money. It was just greed pure and simple...everything else are excuses. Punishment hopefully is a deterent though in past it never worked

Posted by libinbond on (November 1, 2011, 19:55 GMT)

@Stark62 - Man!! You did not get the essence of what Saad was saying in the whole article, did you? You are looking at it from the wrong angle, walk around the issue a bit and see whether the consequences are derived from actions. If their actions deserved the consequence, quit blaming everything around it. ABCD of XYZ team took money to fix something, he is now going to jail. Maybe you feel the XYZ team is being targeted unfairly, but fact of matter is that there is absolutely nothing wrong in the punishment meted out. No matter which team ABCD is from. And if it helps other teams along with XYZ to stay away from corruption, then so be it.

Posted by bumsonseats on (November 1, 2011, 19:15 GMT)

its just a pity from such a great cricketing country, these latest events have put their honest cricketers in the lime light. if these things were to be brought to court, england was the one country it should happen in. perhaps in other countries it would have been swept under the carpet. the icc should hold their heads in shame not the pcb. they as rulers of the game should have been more proactive. names have been banded about and other countries players mentioned. but all they do is spout hot air. the 3 players found guilty should never be allowed to play cricket again. there has to be a deterrent for any one found to have done similar. dpk

Posted by   on (November 1, 2011, 19:14 GMT)

its a shame , really u have to think before u do it

Posted by wiiCricket on (November 1, 2011, 18:59 GMT)

I can't decide what my feelings are right now. Am I sad or am I happy that this case will be lesson for the next generation? I don't know. I feel as if, ICC has gone spot free in this case. Why no action is taken against ICC? Aren't these boards under ICC governing body to scrutinize on each tour? What about the bookies in India and UAE? Why no action against them? What about forcing their boards to do something about it? Why this case didn't touch any root cause? Why? That is the very reason, I am confused what are my emotions telling me right now? No clue.

Posted by   on (November 1, 2011, 18:48 GMT)

sure they're guilty. but prison terms for no-balls? there are far more deserving people to be behind bars. Guess this is a first, hence i'm unable to digest the possibility of jail terms to the tainted trio.

Posted by Big_Chikka on (November 1, 2011, 18:44 GMT)

This was about "greedy players" fixing spot betting, still think it's the "tip of the ice berg." Greed isn't just a Pakistani disease, these guys got caught. Lets see what esle slowly filters out of the woodwork. Would be good for other boards to open their own files and start disclosing stuff to the ICC ACSU. Will that happen? Who knows.

The greatest losers in all this? Betting people in every nation and the reputations of the culprits. I have sadly little symapthy for either. No disrespect to the former group of course, but as I said little sympathy. Moral of the post, support honest people with your money and energies, don't get conned by tricksters and bookies.

Posted by Stark62 on (November 1, 2011, 18:28 GMT)

They could be jailed for 7yrs?!?!

The question still remains: How did notw know that majeed was going to be right and filmed him? If I made predictions like that then, would they have filmed me?

Okay, it was a sting operation but why only Pak and that too their best players?

I don't care whether people say "It's a conspiracy" because the fact is that there are certain entities who don't want Pak cricket to flourish and will do anything to stop them!

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