November 8, 2009

Sachin's mind is still strong

More than a decade after his exploits in Sharjah, Tendulkar has proved he still has the spirit of old
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On a couple of balmy nights in Sharjah in 1998, Sachin Tendulkar carved out successive scintillating centuries against Australia to convince those of the men in gold who weren't believers that he was the best batsman in the world.

More than a decade later Tendulkar has converted a whole new set of Australian non-believers with a mercurial ODI century in Hyderabad. Well, that's actually not quite true. Ricky Ponting was in attendance in Sharjah, and for him Tendulkar just reconfirmed his great skill and tenacity.

As the opposing captain, Ponting was constantly plotting Tendulkar's downfall in Hyderabad, and it came in the nick of time to seal an Australian victory that for a time looked like it would be snatched away by one man. As the third, along with West Indies' champion Brian Lara, in what was a three-way battle for the batting crown, Ponting would've appreciated, if not welcomed, Tendulkar's mastery.

One of the more amazing things about Lara was his remarkable feat in recapturing the world record 10 years after he first established the high-water mark. Longevity isn't the hallmark of greatness but it's a requirement.

Not that Tendulkar needed another century to convince anyone of his prowess, but a masterful knock like the Hyderabad one was a timely reminder that he still has a few great innings left. That's the main difference between the Tendulkar of today and a decade ago.

In Sharjah he belted the Australian bowlers all over the park to get his team into the final, and then followed it up two days later with an equally dynamic showing to win the big prize. Now the hard part will be reprising his starring role in Guwahati when his body is still recovering from Hyderabad.

Tendulkar did prove one thing in Hyderabad: the mind is still willing. He displayed the same fighting spirit that was evident in Sharjah, the same desire to trump the opposition, and amazingly, his strike rate was better than in both of those 1998 gems. "I can't concentrate like I used to," I recall Greg Chappell saying near the end of his illustrious career. "I can still apply myself occasionally, but other days it's just a battle." And he was a strong-minded batsman.

Tendulkar is a strong-minded person but that isn't what defines his batting. His is more a mercurial attitude that allows him to sense the moment when to let loose his full array of shots and leave the bowlers clutching at straws. Straws that in his pomp were whisked away by a whirlwind of shots.

Tendulkar's is a mercurial attitude that allows him to sense the moment when to let loose his full array of shots and leave the bowlers clutching at straws caption:

In recent times Tendulkar's batting has gained a mortal quality. He often has to battle and graft for runs, like a 40-average batsman. The fact that even in that mode he still churns out centuries, like a press printing 10-rupee notes, is a testament to his greatness. However, occasionally all the magic returns and on that day he can light up a cricket ground, the way he did in Hyderabad. The cover drive flows, the flick off the pads races to the boundary and the short-of-a-length delivery is punched off the back foot, while fieldsmen are left grasping at fresh air.

In batting maturity Tendulkar resorts to more deft deflections and little glides to third man but they are as much about resting tiring muscles at the non-striker's end as any concession to the bowlers' ability. He's also moved with the times and is now more likely to upper-cut a short-pitched delivery rather than employ the hook shot. He even indulges in the premeditated shovel shot over the short fine-leg fielder's head. It was one of those that ended his epic innings in Hyderabad, just short of him achieving deity and a thrilling Indian victory.

There will be nit-pickers who say, "There he goes again. Tendulkar succeeds but India fails to claim victory. That's the difference between him and Lara." The difference appears to be that Lara had a ruthless streak when it came to winning the match, while for Tendulkar one more risk is never too many.

To me the only disappointment is that 11 years after Sharjah, the Indian batting is still so heavily dependent on Tendulkar. After all his magical displays you'd think some of the next-generation batsmen would be clamouring to imitate Tendulkar's starring roles rather than being content to play the bit part in the shadow of the little master.

Former Australia captain Ian Chappell is now a cricket commentator and columnist

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  • nsmhotmale on November 10, 2009, 21:38 GMT

    What a player! Tony Greig's voice still rings in my ears every single time I watch, or as is the case these days, follow the exploits of the great man Sachin Tendulkar online, ever since those two blinders he played in Sharjah . Not even a single game was let gone before his captain's salvo at a misfiring top order was answered in a magical innings that only a player of Tendulkar's class can conjure. To do that while chasing 350 under lights, against the mighty, though depleted oz, speaks volumes about how the greatest player to play for India these past two decades is in a league of his own and how far the next crop of players have to go before they reach the same levels of greatness.

  • Vansan on November 10, 2009, 20:24 GMT

    Mr.Akhil Joey.

    Keep in mind, openers have no pressure :). Then i must say Sanath jayasuriya is the greatest batsman for the reason that he always win games for Sri Lanka. A Batsman becomes great when he plays according to situation with his head above his neck and win matches for his home. Micheal Bevan has won match from 36 /6 to 181 / 9, Did Mr.Sachin have even done that?? Of course in Pepsi Cup 1998, Bevan always made at No:4, Thats same with Sir Viv Richards, he comes immediately at pressure and be there till the final hurdle, Lara have always played 2 down. Where did SRT go on Guwahati ODI, on early moisture pitch, with some assistance to bowler, why didnt he grind innings to win for INDIA, his most ODI centuries came in belters, I think u never forgot 2002/03 ODI series between IND Vs WI, we witnessed GAYLE singlehandedly won the series, LARA is always a step ahead of SACHIN.

  • U.A.1985 on November 10, 2009, 20:19 GMT

    Talking about the best batsman we all are forgetting about the greatest of all time: Sir Viv Richards. Just checked out the stats and I was shocked to see that even in those times he maintained an average of 47 and strike rate of 90 (in ODIs). Playing on those uncovered pitches against better bowlers (Lillie, Thomson, Imran, Kapil) with lighter bats and bigger boundaries and then possessing such a record is a great great feat. We bow down in praise Sir Vivian Richards

    Long live the greatest legend of BATTING!!

  • U.A.1985 on November 10, 2009, 20:11 GMT

    @akhil_joey It is important to keep an isentical frame of reference when talking on comparisons. Lara cannot have billion people having expectations from him so it is no wrong doing from him in this case. When we compare greatness we compare batsmen and their innings! Sachin performs well not because billion people are expecting from him but because he is a great player with high skill levels. As far as that theory goes and skill levels being compared the crowd factor gets left out. In that perspective class of Lara and hundreds he made had more impact than those of Sachins.

  • afridi102 on November 10, 2009, 18:54 GMT

    @akhil_joey : what u said was correct.. I agree tendulkar has imnse pressure to perform everytime for the spectators... But to me Lara was just a more special batsman, he played counter-attacking innings that u can whatch again and again...The shots he played were just too amazing... and that too against every bowling attack... He has punished australians, but also south african, pakistanis, sri lankans... That was just wonderfoul how he played murli, warne and more recently how he hit kaneria...

  • CricFan24 on November 10, 2009, 16:07 GMT

    Some other great articles I just read recently about the one and only Sachin Tendulkar- The Best and Greatest Batsman EVER : 1)Sachin Tendulkar: End is nigh but he's not done just yet - by Paul Moon 2)Tendulkar is top of my bat pack- Nasser Hussain 3)Born to bat - Peter Roebuck. All great articles on the Greatest batsman of all time.

  • akhil_joey on November 10, 2009, 15:14 GMT

    @vansan - ithink the whole topic of discussion was who is a greatest batsman an not who is the greatest finisher.Ofcourse Bevan was the greatest finisher but if you understand the game of cricket the openers have a lot less chance of finishing a game as compared to batsman coming down on 3rd of 4th wicket thats how the game is..i wish to prove your stats wrong sachin plays at 5th wicket to finish matches...(in case you dont know...cricket is played in a team of 11 players, so its a team game..not about openers or finishers..duh!)

  • akhil_joey on November 10, 2009, 15:09 GMT

    @afridi - when it comes to sachin vs lara, I agree both are this generations master batsmen. But when it comes down to comparing both, the sheer pressure and expectation sachin plays under is huge compared to any other sportsman in the world. He carries a a billion expectations from a cricket crazy country. Lara or pointing never had to wear this burden neither in their early career nor now.That responsibility makes a huge difference..and for sachin to play for two decades wearing that burden is huge ask itself. Infact if sachin has a one bad series today, he is most likely to be chopped off from the team or 'given rest'. So playing for India is a big task and that too for two decades is unbelievable.

  • Tshepo_M on November 10, 2009, 11:29 GMT

    I think if you look at the 3 batsman you would have to say that the criteria you use to judge them will ultimately decide who you perceive as the greatest among greats. Lara was the most prolific accumulator of runs. Scores of 400, 375 and even 500 can atest to a man who on his day was simply unstopable. Sachin the most prolific of them when it comes to mass of runs, longevity and concentration, he for me will probably end up being the greatest all time scorer of all time cos I dnt see him retiring before he's sure that pointing won't beat his mark. Then pointing if ever there was a batsman who could boast such success not only personally but also team wise id have to say in my era if there was eva a batsman id want at the crease when everything was on the line then pointing would always b top of my list ive witnessed him seamingly control games and ensure aus remain the team to beat even now. But really there is very little that can seperate 3 batsman of such high quality

  • afridi102 on November 10, 2009, 9:11 GMT

    This is a debate that comes on everytime... But i really do think there should not be any comparaisons between lara, tendulkar and ponting... simply because they re uncomparable... Lara is way better than tendulkar, and tendulkar is so far way better than ponting... If someone has any doubt over my statment that lara is way better than tendulkar, i just want you to sit and compare everyyyy century by these two and you will have your awnser. (don't look records vs bangladesh and zimbabwe and they will have nearly as many centuries, so the comparaison will be easier). Most of the time brian lara was the only century scorer for his team, he scores about half of his teams run when he scores hundred, he always comes in with 2 qucik wickets down and the rest of the line up also not scoring anything. Whereas tendulkar always have great support by other batsmen, that be before him or after him in the line up. But just check the way in which they both scores their centuries... should be enough

  • nsmhotmale on November 10, 2009, 21:38 GMT

    What a player! Tony Greig's voice still rings in my ears every single time I watch, or as is the case these days, follow the exploits of the great man Sachin Tendulkar online, ever since those two blinders he played in Sharjah . Not even a single game was let gone before his captain's salvo at a misfiring top order was answered in a magical innings that only a player of Tendulkar's class can conjure. To do that while chasing 350 under lights, against the mighty, though depleted oz, speaks volumes about how the greatest player to play for India these past two decades is in a league of his own and how far the next crop of players have to go before they reach the same levels of greatness.

  • Vansan on November 10, 2009, 20:24 GMT

    Mr.Akhil Joey.

    Keep in mind, openers have no pressure :). Then i must say Sanath jayasuriya is the greatest batsman for the reason that he always win games for Sri Lanka. A Batsman becomes great when he plays according to situation with his head above his neck and win matches for his home. Micheal Bevan has won match from 36 /6 to 181 / 9, Did Mr.Sachin have even done that?? Of course in Pepsi Cup 1998, Bevan always made at No:4, Thats same with Sir Viv Richards, he comes immediately at pressure and be there till the final hurdle, Lara have always played 2 down. Where did SRT go on Guwahati ODI, on early moisture pitch, with some assistance to bowler, why didnt he grind innings to win for INDIA, his most ODI centuries came in belters, I think u never forgot 2002/03 ODI series between IND Vs WI, we witnessed GAYLE singlehandedly won the series, LARA is always a step ahead of SACHIN.

  • U.A.1985 on November 10, 2009, 20:19 GMT

    Talking about the best batsman we all are forgetting about the greatest of all time: Sir Viv Richards. Just checked out the stats and I was shocked to see that even in those times he maintained an average of 47 and strike rate of 90 (in ODIs). Playing on those uncovered pitches against better bowlers (Lillie, Thomson, Imran, Kapil) with lighter bats and bigger boundaries and then possessing such a record is a great great feat. We bow down in praise Sir Vivian Richards

    Long live the greatest legend of BATTING!!

  • U.A.1985 on November 10, 2009, 20:11 GMT

    @akhil_joey It is important to keep an isentical frame of reference when talking on comparisons. Lara cannot have billion people having expectations from him so it is no wrong doing from him in this case. When we compare greatness we compare batsmen and their innings! Sachin performs well not because billion people are expecting from him but because he is a great player with high skill levels. As far as that theory goes and skill levels being compared the crowd factor gets left out. In that perspective class of Lara and hundreds he made had more impact than those of Sachins.

  • afridi102 on November 10, 2009, 18:54 GMT

    @akhil_joey : what u said was correct.. I agree tendulkar has imnse pressure to perform everytime for the spectators... But to me Lara was just a more special batsman, he played counter-attacking innings that u can whatch again and again...The shots he played were just too amazing... and that too against every bowling attack... He has punished australians, but also south african, pakistanis, sri lankans... That was just wonderfoul how he played murli, warne and more recently how he hit kaneria...

  • CricFan24 on November 10, 2009, 16:07 GMT

    Some other great articles I just read recently about the one and only Sachin Tendulkar- The Best and Greatest Batsman EVER : 1)Sachin Tendulkar: End is nigh but he's not done just yet - by Paul Moon 2)Tendulkar is top of my bat pack- Nasser Hussain 3)Born to bat - Peter Roebuck. All great articles on the Greatest batsman of all time.

  • akhil_joey on November 10, 2009, 15:14 GMT

    @vansan - ithink the whole topic of discussion was who is a greatest batsman an not who is the greatest finisher.Ofcourse Bevan was the greatest finisher but if you understand the game of cricket the openers have a lot less chance of finishing a game as compared to batsman coming down on 3rd of 4th wicket thats how the game is..i wish to prove your stats wrong sachin plays at 5th wicket to finish matches...(in case you dont know...cricket is played in a team of 11 players, so its a team game..not about openers or finishers..duh!)

  • akhil_joey on November 10, 2009, 15:09 GMT

    @afridi - when it comes to sachin vs lara, I agree both are this generations master batsmen. But when it comes down to comparing both, the sheer pressure and expectation sachin plays under is huge compared to any other sportsman in the world. He carries a a billion expectations from a cricket crazy country. Lara or pointing never had to wear this burden neither in their early career nor now.That responsibility makes a huge difference..and for sachin to play for two decades wearing that burden is huge ask itself. Infact if sachin has a one bad series today, he is most likely to be chopped off from the team or 'given rest'. So playing for India is a big task and that too for two decades is unbelievable.

  • Tshepo_M on November 10, 2009, 11:29 GMT

    I think if you look at the 3 batsman you would have to say that the criteria you use to judge them will ultimately decide who you perceive as the greatest among greats. Lara was the most prolific accumulator of runs. Scores of 400, 375 and even 500 can atest to a man who on his day was simply unstopable. Sachin the most prolific of them when it comes to mass of runs, longevity and concentration, he for me will probably end up being the greatest all time scorer of all time cos I dnt see him retiring before he's sure that pointing won't beat his mark. Then pointing if ever there was a batsman who could boast such success not only personally but also team wise id have to say in my era if there was eva a batsman id want at the crease when everything was on the line then pointing would always b top of my list ive witnessed him seamingly control games and ensure aus remain the team to beat even now. But really there is very little that can seperate 3 batsman of such high quality

  • afridi102 on November 10, 2009, 9:11 GMT

    This is a debate that comes on everytime... But i really do think there should not be any comparaisons between lara, tendulkar and ponting... simply because they re uncomparable... Lara is way better than tendulkar, and tendulkar is so far way better than ponting... If someone has any doubt over my statment that lara is way better than tendulkar, i just want you to sit and compare everyyyy century by these two and you will have your awnser. (don't look records vs bangladesh and zimbabwe and they will have nearly as many centuries, so the comparaison will be easier). Most of the time brian lara was the only century scorer for his team, he scores about half of his teams run when he scores hundred, he always comes in with 2 qucik wickets down and the rest of the line up also not scoring anything. Whereas tendulkar always have great support by other batsmen, that be before him or after him in the line up. But just check the way in which they both scores their centuries... should be enough

  • rtmohanlal on November 10, 2009, 8:10 GMT

    It is one's personel opinion as to whether x or y is the best bat in the world.But some of the comments put forward here by some to defend their stand is really immature, oppertunistics and pathetic to say the least.The main point is that a lot of people have taken the best in the business in a particular batting factor and compared that quality of that batsman against Sachin's same quality.For eg: take some one comparing Bevan's finishing ability in one dayers to that of Sachin.He fully ignore's Sachin's test batting against that of Bevans'.Pure nonsense. Chappel's and some others comments that india is heavily dependent on Sachin also is oppertunistic.India has performed really good in a lot of home and abroad test and one day matches with out major contribution from Sachin from 1996 onwards.Stats reveal it. But for me Sachin is the best because he is the best all round bat when taken into account a lot of batting factors and measuring Sachin's performance w.r.t those factors.

  • BrianCharlesVivek on November 10, 2009, 7:07 GMT

    Mr Chappell can have his own opinions about Ponting. Appreciate it. But for me as an Indian cricket fan and watching Sachin/Lara from 96 onwards, there cannot be anyone who plays teh game as perfectly as him. He simply represents the Indian mentality as a whole - simple, firm footed, hardworking, disciplined , ethical and giving more importance to values.His mastery is a result of commitment, dedication and endless practice. As it is said in Gita, "Do your duty" , he has been doing it without fuss for one and half decades and helped his nation.

    I would quote Lara using these words - magician,artist, moody, talented,egoistic - but still he was on par with Tendulkar. Remember he s retired 2.5 years back but still people compare him with SRT. Thats the testimony to his greatness.

    Ponting- Just scoring runs doesnt even put him within 100 miles to these mens territories.Even if he surpasses Sachin as test s highest run scorer, or get a 400,he wont be rated as thse two.

  • ZA77 on November 10, 2009, 6:20 GMT

    I think Tendulkar is the best batsman in current cricket. Ponting has comparison with him but he is no. 2. In my opinion, Tendulkar is equivalent to Sir Don Bradman. Sir Don batting average is enough to prove him as a legend of test cricket but Tendulkar played 159 test matches and 436 one day matches in 20 years as compare to his 52 test matches in 20 years. If we take an assumption that 3 one day = 1 test matche then Tendulkar has taken pressure of international cricket six times more than him. He played cricket on almost 50 different grounds as compare to his ten grounds. I think both batsmen are biggest cricket icons, although his average is almost double than him. Tendulkar also has an ability to score 100 centuries at international level. He will soon score 30000 runs at international level.

  • ramu27689 on November 10, 2009, 6:07 GMT

    I just cannot believe that a man of ian chappell's experience(of both playing and watching) has accused sachin of not winning the team enough games.For mr.chappell's kind information, Brian lara holds the record for most runs in a losing cause in a career,most runs in a single innings for a losing cause and if u compare that to sachin's record-6 100's in matchwinning finals and who can forget that memorable hundred in chennai against england in the test match(and also he has the most100's for a winning cause (32) in ODI'S which is far more than what ponting and lara have managed in their entire careers!!).Here too some idiots may argue that lara used to play for a weak team like the west indies but it has also gotta be mentioned that india were far poorer than the west indies up until the new millenium.Infact for most lara's early career they still had the best bowling in the world with likes of ambrose and walsh.So Mr.Chappell i would kindly request you to stop analysing selectively.

  • Raviss on November 10, 2009, 5:34 GMT

    This innings was a summary of 20 years of Tendulkar's career.. absolutely brilliant!! those who say that he did not finish the job.. just check the records if some one has single handedly taken their team to victory without much support in ODI n dat too chasing a huge target against a very proffessional Australian side! n if India's lower order cannot score the remaining 18 runs.. den its not Sachin's fault.. Sachin is and will always be my hero..it was really a pleasure to watch this really special innings..one of the best of ODI history if not the best...ofcourse the icing on the cake would hav been victory..but alas it cudnt b coz of sum panicky batting by the rest... the word Legend n Great should be replaced by Sachin!!!!

  • reddy29 on November 10, 2009, 5:18 GMT

    surprise for chappel,do u know that lara has never made 1000 runs in a calendar year in one day internationals.and for such a reputed batsmen from 2004 to 2007 he just averaged 33. with 2 centuries.show me his match finishing innings in one day internationals, not tests because he had one 153 against australia which was a match finishing innings.but that was in tests.please show me his finishing innings chappel

  • msw010 on November 10, 2009, 5:11 GMT

    in both 1998 sharjah & now 2009 hyd, he has scored against toothless aussie attack and on a toothless pitc. he has not done anything greater against good aussie attack OR on a good sportive pitch. everybody speaks about his stats, by same stats his avg against aus in aus or against saf in saf or against pak in toronto suggests that he is good or great only in sub continental pitches. if all the players around the world plays on a sub continental pitches then they too would have amassed such records. For ex. if u look at the top odi run getters it would be dominated by sub continental players. imagine if players like mark waugh / ponting / hayden / gilchrist / kallis / lara / were provided like this kind of toothless pitch then they would have scored more runs and centuries....

  • kingkarthik on November 10, 2009, 2:45 GMT

    When will people ever read an article properly, then digest the content and post comments. It is not a question of if Sachin or Lara or Ponting are better.... It is simply an article to marvel at what they Little Genius has achieved. Everyone who wants to shout that Sachin is the best and there is no one better, please tone down your emotions and passion, we know it. For those who take sadistic pleasure in beliitling what Sachin has contributed and continues to contribute to cricket speaks volumes about your lack of character, poor breeding and a fundamentally flawed mental attitude. As for the youngsters who have been deprived the chance to represent India due to Sachin and are supposed to be the next bright star of Indian Cricket, I humbly the recall the following names.... Mohammed Kaif Robin Uthappa Rohit Sharma Dinesh Karthik Irfan Pathan Yusuf Pathan Suresh Raina Venugopal Rao Virat Kohli Please check their averages, be it bowling or batting and get back to me.

  • BeeArr on November 9, 2009, 21:06 GMT

    batsmen are judged not just by the amount of runs they score, but by the way they score. Sachin is easily very classical, balanced, technically perfect guy and his cricket is a lesson, but Lara's cricket was a symphony. That mastering of the geometry of the field, to me he's the most underperformed guy in cricket, because he can score anything, anylonger if he decides but he decided very rarely. When Lara 's in song, all others looked like school kids. It had a prodigious signature. That a man can do anything in cricket. Lara's game was the proof of ego, the self and the greatness of it....

  • va_jatt on November 9, 2009, 20:56 GMT

    SRT is the best there is no DOUBT about that.... ricky pontin played a good inng agaist india in WC 03 but it was sachin who brought the indian team in the final... n it was sachin in nz year back when he hit 169* than few weeks back he hit unmatchable innings of 175 when india was chasing a mamoth total.. it is very easy to talk.. i have seen many good player chokes in that kind situation.. if there s a player who should gets the same respect its BC LARA only in test,, cause he faced the best bowling like SRT not ponting... HAIL TO SACHIN.

  • BatmanRulz on November 9, 2009, 20:53 GMT

    Mr Chappell, Ever since your brother, Greg, had to resign from the post of Coach for Team India you've started this absolutely over-the-top campaign against Sachin. We all know why that "Mirror, Mirror on the wall" sorry excuse for an opinion came about. Thank God GC resigned when he did because he just didn't know his job! You've lost no opportunity in questioning Sachin's skills but also his committment, attitude and most of all reason for putting on the India cap. Can we have back the Ian Chappell of old who was unbiased? As for the Ponting / Sachin debate that you've started good luck to you trying to convince people that Ricky's better! For me he always will remain "Robin" as the part of BATMAN's already taken.

  • BeeArr on November 9, 2009, 20:51 GMT

    sorry reddy sir, it was to mr. kangaroo who tells that blaming sachin is equivalent to the most antisocial thing one guy can do and kangaroo have a mind on your own. Bradman, warne do not eat for you. So think for your own. Sorry for the mess in names :)

  • BeeArr on November 9, 2009, 20:43 GMT

    And someone blurted it out over here that telling sachin is brilliant, but second, implies that he or she has done nothing reasonable in life. How can someone be so insane? Get some life. And Ian Chappell is making no profit out of this issue. It's his private opinion. Words such as jingoism were also out. It's a game and Sachin is not God. He's a great batsman but he cannot be the best just because India has the highest population, most powerful media and die hard fans. And to talk of best of all times needs a lot of research on history and pitches. One can do Ph.D, be successful and still feel Sachin is a great guy but second best in cricket and go to heaven. Bhaiya, it's not yet forbidden. Grow up....

    And Bradman is more of an opportunist than Ian chappell. Can someone read through the 1970's controversy between Ian and Don.

    Ponting probably doesn't deserve to be bracketed with BCL and SRT simply he doesn't fulfil the optimization parameters of class. Martin crowe to me fits.

  • BeeArr on November 9, 2009, 20:33 GMT

    Just watch ball by ball that 153* video... Or watch how he carried the team all alone in Adelaide, Or watch through the videos of srilanka series..... And forget it, watch the unfurling of a Cover drive. That's heaven. That's cricket and that's called mastering the geometry. He was so big that he dint care to bother many things like consistency. BCL is the best.

    vineetphysics: that mirror has answered it long back. And no doubt, sachin is the best in that 'stuff' which is close to cricket (ODI), but Lara will always remain to be the best test batsman(real cricket).This issue was resolved long before pseudopotentials solved Density functional theory mr.physics.

    Reddy gaarru: you quoted bradman, shane warne and sangakkara, what is the point boss.... For instance Mr. Warne's list of 100 cricketers need not be the universal fact and Mr. Bradman's judgement need not be perfect. I beleive that people like Lara, Sachin, Greg Chappell, Sunil Gavaskar were way better than Bradman.....

  • citizen1_8 on November 9, 2009, 17:40 GMT

    People with a stone heart will only blame SACHIN for this defeat.In the record 434 chase, Gibbs made the exact same score that Sachin made albeit at a better strike rate. But he got out at a score of 299 which means his team still needed 135 for victory. But the rest contributed. The scorecard reads Smith-90, Boucher - 50 and etc. and Strike Rate reads Smith - 163, Boucher - 116 and the small contributions also scoring at a heavy strike rate. Apart from Raina (who also scored only at run a ball) who contributed? Apart from SACHIN, only SEHWAG and JADEJA's Strike rate is above 100 but their contributions were meagre to say the least. ITS A TEAM GAME. And people really need to understand that before blaming on one person. Perhaps if he had got out scoring a fast hundred he would have been forgiven. It was his mistake that he stood till the end. What a poor creature has he become to earn such words after playing completely out of his skin to get us so close to an almost impossible chase..

  • Pras1501 on November 9, 2009, 16:14 GMT

    Let us not forget that Ponting has plalyed with the likes of Hayden, Gilly, Waugh brother's, Langer, Bevan, Warne and Mcgrath for most part of his career. Each one them are match winners. And its not like if Punter scores a ton other's get out cheaply. They compliment each other. I dont remember any Aussie player winning matches for them single handedly.It's always been a combined effort, which is why they are the best in the world. That's not the case with Sachin. Till recently the entire Indian innings was on his shoulder. That's quite an expectation to take for 13-14 years. Nothing to take away from Punter though. He is an extraordinary batsmen and the best fielder ever. Being an Indian i envy him. Only for his batting and fielding. Not for his captaincy though.

  • SatyajitM on November 9, 2009, 15:27 GMT

    Lot of people say (as appreciation) that Viv Richards and Lara never changed their game, they didn't care to change (Sehwag is bit like them. I am not suggesting he is of the same class though). But is that such a good thing? Does that show commitment towards team/country? Richards probably didn't need to care as they had too much of a good team. On the other hand Sachin is super committed and sometimes handicaps himself due to that. One cricketer who can rival Sachin in that is Ricky Ponting. He does care for his team/country and you can see how bad he feels when his team fails. In his case, for initial years of captaincy he didn't have to care much as team was great and he could enjoy captaincy/ batting. But last two years, a relatively mediocre team has taken toll on his batting as well. I think most of the Aus players (past and present) are really committed towards team. Alan Border was the best of them all!

  • krishna_cricketfan on November 9, 2009, 15:04 GMT

    This is in particluar response to Pakistani fans. Why do you compare Inzi and Sachin? Have you ever bothered to find the state of bowling of both the teams. Pakistan always had Waqar and Wasim and continous supply of bowlers. How many Indain bowlers can match 2 W's? Quite obviously you were able to restrict the opposite team to a chaseable total. India on the other hand have to make up for the bowling department through a super string batting. When was the last time we had 2 FAST bowlers bowling in Tandem. We always had fast medium bowlers. Moreover Inzi always batted in the middle order unlike Sachin. Also the logevity of Sachin makes him a very an obvious target. IS Inzi a great? YES definitely. But the comparison is just not correct.

  • testisthbest on November 9, 2009, 13:54 GMT

    TEST MATCHES are the only important comparrison. IN A TEST MATCH, who would you bet on to score a hunded if all three of these players where playing a test 2mwr, of course everyone and the bookies would choose Pointing, so that how i judge who is better, by who is the more likely to score a test centoury in there next innings

  • aj2911 on November 9, 2009, 13:50 GMT

    Please admire the passion to play cricket for more than 2 decades. Scoring centuries against any opposition is an art. As a matter of fact its a pity to understand that even today opposition feels that if they get sachin, they get India. Heroics of Mr. Dhoni have come under a scanner with this match. It should be noted that captain should have absolute control on the team and game. Imagine a team without sachin and require to score 350 again and no one fires!!!

  • Quazar on November 9, 2009, 13:46 GMT

    Ponting too is an outright all-time great. But even he would concede that no modern player has had to carry a national burden of hope & expectations quite like the Little Master. And to those who need reminding about Sachin's exploits against bowling greats, you perhaps missed: a) His assault on McGrath, Warne, et al in the '96 WC...even IC (commentating) was gushing "unbelievable batting!" b) His breathtaking 169 in the Capetown Test of '96 vs Donald, Pollock, Klusener, McMillan c) The final day 136 in the Chennai Test of '99 against Saqlain, the 2Ws, Afridi, et al...rescuing India from 80/5 (though the last 3 batters couldn't muster 16!) d) His 114 at Perth on his 1st trip to Aus at age 18! e) His 155* against Warne in 1998 on day 4; his lone hand of 100+ and then 50+ at the MCG in '99 against McGrath, Warne, Lee, et al. f) The MVP performance in the '03 WC, capped by incredible stroke play in the matchwinning 98 vs. Akhtar, the 2Ws, Razzak, Afridi, et al. The list can go on & on!

  • saumilzx.com on November 9, 2009, 13:13 GMT

    It is not as if Sachin plays a great knock after 10 years. He played a best-ever type knock in Sri Lanka 2 months back. Before that he made a 160 in NZ few months back. That is 3 massive ODI knocks in 6 months!

    In fact, Ponting has curbed his natural instincts and is mixing caution and aggression (since Adelaide v India, 07-08)- just like Tendulkar has done after 2003. The difference is that a Tendulkar's good ODI innings will usually have a par strike rate, whereas Ponting's strike rate has been below par (for a given course), even in many of his good innings, this season. But credit to Ponting, for controlling his natural game for his team, because this Aussie unit needs him to anchor around a lot more than before. The question is if he will be criticized for playing a more balanced role. I doubt, because Aussie bowling is sill a lot better than most-even without Warne/McGrath- and will convert advantages to wins!

  • Quazar on November 9, 2009, 13:04 GMT

    While I hate these comparisons between greats (as all 3 modern masters have been fantastic for the sport), some patently unfair comments belittling the Little Master are forcing me to react: Lara was a genius on his day, but a) often not a team man, including when in England he used to travel in his own special ride, instead of the team bus; when he threatened to abandon the team in Eng in 1995, and did not visit Aus later that year; again when he decided not to tour Eng in 2000. b) Massively underperformed in World Cups...except for a brilliant 100 in '96 and a good one in '03, was never a force in any WC. c) Struggled innumerable times against McGrath in Tests and ODIs; was roughed up by Donald bowling short in SA on multiple occasions; appeared clueless against Waqar and Saqlain in Pak Tests in 1997, and against Mohammed Zahid in Australia. d) Virtually no 'matchwinning' innings once Walsh, Ambrose & Bishop retired (illustrating the difficulty of winning without top class bowling).

  • Daniel_Smith on November 9, 2009, 12:15 GMT

    To 'vineetphysics2006' please read the article before commenting, this way you'll appear less of a fool.

    This is a well-balanced article and complimentary to Sachin Tendulkar. We need more objective sensible commentators and writers like Ian Chappell, not less.

  • Vansan on November 9, 2009, 10:58 GMT

    OH SACHIN IS GREAT. HE IS GREATEST. SO??

    Thats means he must play and occupy a youngster's position who can also be better. Chappell could be cunning in attitude, but i think SACHIN simply should retire, instead of holding a seat. If sachin played 450 ODIs obviously he will have most MOM awards, is that counts, on hydereabd too he had MOM, does he win it for INDIA. in WC2003, he had Man of Series, does he win the trophy for India. The post brlara said is true and evident, on away, its DRAVID, SEHWAG and LAXMAN propelled indian victories. LARA single handedly won a B&H, Rothmans Cup at SHARJAH. WELL SACHIN is a master batsman but not a finisher. If you want to compare with finishers. How many times SACHIN finished tricky chases, draw a comparison against one finisher who isnt genius batsman - MICHAEL BEVAN. why SACHIN didnt win the crucial encounter on GUWAHATI yesterday. wake up guys enough speaking greatness here. you need to win matches not to blow individual trumpets

  • balajiaiak86 on November 9, 2009, 9:51 GMT

    If Tendulkar had found an honest mirror three years ago and asked the question Mirror, mirror on the wall who is the biggest loser of all?" It would've answered; "Ian Chappel." If he asked that same mirror right now; "Mirror, mirror on the wall should Ian Chappel retire from writing?" The answer would be; "Yes."

  • U.A.1985 on November 9, 2009, 9:37 GMT

    @narenkash

    He won the Man of the Match in Hyderabad as well....but that wasnt a match winning innings at the end of the day....

  • mrgupta on November 9, 2009, 9:30 GMT

    Does Anyone believe in Stats? Actually we can easily use Statsguru and see the results about the better finisher. I ran a small query, No. of ODIs won by a team when a particular player scored 100+... Sachin was No.1 (34 Win). Lets narrow down to Wins while scoring 100, Chasing... Unbelievable! Sachin again Tops, actually he has been on a winning side while chasing and scored century exactly twice the number of times as Lara. One more stat, the last time Lara won a match for WI while chasing and Scoring 100 was in 1997 when he was 28 years old (He played for 9 more years). Last time Sachin did this was in 2008 against the No. 1 country on their soil when he was 35 years old! and almost did that just last week but for lack of support. Now please dont tell me that Lara didnt had a good team to back up his efforts..... Oh and according to this list Sachin also has better Strike rate than Lara and marginally (0.11) lower than Ponting. For more details check Statsguru....

  • vineetphysics2006 on November 9, 2009, 9:21 GMT

    well, Mr. Chappel, don't you think sachin has done enough to convince your mirror to say something to you, may be, put down the microphone /pen and retire as a cricket critic, as far as comparison and stats are concerned sachin is well ahead of lara and ponting adding to this the mental pressure which he carries of the demanding Indian fans makes him far more superior in fact setting apart the averages and on the basis of mental strength he seems to be superior to DON BRADMAN also.

  • mumbaiguy79 on November 9, 2009, 9:05 GMT

    Gosh!! So after a few years ago when you said Tendulkar should just retire, now you "think" he is a strong minded person. Trying to gain yourself a commentary spot on the Nimbus team are you!!

  • U.A.1985 on November 9, 2009, 9:02 GMT

    The question to ask here is how many matches has Sachin won for India when McGrath, Shane Warne, Lee & Gillespie were around. That was the time when Australian team was at the peak of their game. Hitting spinners like Hauritz and Voges for sixes is no big feat. Ponting won Australia one of the most important matches for them in History: 2003 World Cup Final. Tendulkar has not been able to win for India any major tournament final. Check the records Tendulkar has scored 6 times over 140 and out of those six times India has lost 5 times. so whenever Tendulkar scores over 140 I think people should be scared.

  • brlara on November 9, 2009, 8:39 GMT

    Indian batting line up was not as useless as W indies in the past 10 years. Can anyone identify a great batsman who has a record of 3 double hundreds resulted in test defeat than Brian Lara. I wonder even Sir Don Bradman, Viv Richards, Sir Gary Sobers have incurred this pain. DEAR IAN, India won matches in abroad after millenium, Courtesy to big hundreds from Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag and a bit of contribution from SACHIN. I repeat the word A BIT OF CONTRIBUTION. We don't rely on Sachin anymore though he is a world class batsman. Mr Ian, You know very well no bowlers even the best in the world would love to bowl to Brian Lara if he is on song. Sachin is still alive but his game was dead 9 years ago. Hyderabad's 175 really showed a master class of a Genius batsman. But, we all the Indians, make a note of it,, you have to wait for another 5 years to see this kind of an innings from Sachin as these haven't happened that frequently in this millenium, From a True India Cricket Fan,

  • virology on November 9, 2009, 7:49 GMT

    Kangaroo786, I totally agree wit you. The pressure Sachin goes through is unbelievable and very few people can handle it. Ian chapell thrives on controversy and articles that provoke Indians will get more comments and that implies more viewers. He will be highly promoted by cricinfo. Most of us have jingoistic attitude that is why we cannot appreciate Sachin or Ponting or Lara and take sides as per our nationality. I would love to watch Ponting's front foot pull shot, Lara's cover drive or Sachin's straight drive. Sports is a device to connect people of different nationality. Not to divide.

  • Chapel on November 9, 2009, 7:13 GMT

    I dont know why there is always a debate on the best batsman. It is undoubtly sachin. Next comes Lara and dravid then ponting. I hope Ian chappel will soon realise that.

  • narenkash on November 9, 2009, 6:48 GMT

    Well we have all seen wt sachn has done in hydrabad match. And people who say Sachin don't win matches then why does he hold the record for winning most no of Man of the Macth & manof the series and no great player compare to him has a better strike rate. And don't compare Ponting he always have the luxary of Waughs, Hayden, Gilcrist, Hussey. And he never face his own team mate who are the best in the world. let forget that Dravid is very good but you can't expect him to have 90-100 strike rate Ganguly was a good they have good partnership which make india win 5 trophy in 1999. But the current team is good but they still lack consintency and maturaty Dhoni has changed his game and become good for finishing game but if you see his record he is good for 250 games with his present style. Its only yuvraj who can win big score apart Sachin but again consitencty is problem. And to be fair we still have to find replacment of Sachin, Ganguly, Dravid, To match Indian batting standerd.

  • Sameerb on November 9, 2009, 5:50 GMT

    Yes, this was a one of the great innings Sachin played, but its so unfortunate that this game in India is completely controlled by the Mafia. India had no business losing this series especially considering the fact that Australia played a depleted side. No doubt that Australia played better cricket, however India has never played so dismally to ensure such an easy win for their opponents. I hope that the Indian Team can get out of this mess soon.

  • redneck on November 9, 2009, 5:19 GMT

    it would appear a non indian writter, writing about indian cricket regardless of weather they praise or knock it, will incur the wrath of many indian supporters who dont bother to finish reading the article before spouting off in the comments section! i feel for you chapeli! i thought this was a great piece on a great player but apparently when india embarrased themselves being kncked out early in the 07 world cup you wrote something that summed up what most people thought at the time. maybe it was time for sachin to go after 15 years at the top. sachin proved us wrong then, but it should be noted that you werent far off! india did chop alot of the old guard after the cup in laxman, ganguly & dravid. another article in 07 you did, explained why viru must return to the indian team ahead of the tour to australia! again you recieved many comments from indians rubbishing the idea, time proved you 100% spot on there! yet funny how no one comments about that?! kepp up the great articles ian!

  • spreddy1 on November 9, 2009, 4:58 GMT

    SRT and Brian Lara are definitely the best in the world. Ponting is a great player, but he was not tested against the best bowlers of his generation (Mcgrath, Warne etc.). He did not do well against Muralidharan. Shane Warne understands this and so Ponting was not included in top 3 by warne in 50 greatest cricketers list.

  • reddy29 on November 9, 2009, 4:46 GMT

    Mr chapel Ponting in his peak has a strike rateof 84.07compared to his career Strike rate of 80. plz check it and dont say he scores faster than tendulkar wheras tendulkar strike rate is 86(career strike rate)overall and 90 in tha last few years.Recently Ponting did get out on 126 while chasing 299. Johnson & White managed to score the remaining 40 runs..tendulkar is the best of the best. This is Ponting in his peak, record which is below 2002-2009 199 190 21 7511 164 44.44 84.07 20 45

  • reddy29 on November 9, 2009, 4:21 GMT

    Please check the records Mr chappel,no player in the history has played as many match winnings innings as sachin did,and when it comes to finishing the game can u tell me how many matches did lara finsh to win a game. it is very minimal and that is the reason you think lara has played more finishing innings,plz check the record.out of sachins 45 hundreds india have won 32 and wile chasing the innings sachin made 18 hundreds out of it india won 14 of them with better strike rate of 86(career Strike rate)whereas ponting its just 80(career strike rate). can u tell me how many centuries did ponting hit while chasing,even in sachins 12 centuries in which india lost, there was nothing wrong in his innings there were scores ard 280 and 300+,but india couldnot defend it and thats not sachin mistake and it was during ganguly captaincy,people, like u forget the innings which he played 2 yrs back in the final of 117 which was finishing innings against australia in sydney.plz read my comment chape

  • Gk16 on November 9, 2009, 4:08 GMT

    For those who are saying that Sachin didn't win much matches for India despite his centuries, please remember that Cricket is a team game. When this guy scores a 175 run knock and takes the team to an improbable 350 run target, the other guys should grab the chance and win it for the team. What were your "young bloods" doing when the master got out? You guys want him to win the matches single-handedly. But if someone supports him you guys will say that the individual is ot bigger than the team. Then it is the responsibility of the team to win or lose and not a single person alone. If India loses it's sachin's fault; If India wins it's team effort. What logic is this? You guys want to attack him. So you can't accept the loss of a match as a collective team failure. You people better get a life than being so partial like this. The team has to chip in man. Like Australia. Everyone's performing. In India you people let Sachi do everything ehile the others are doing nothing. Get a life.

  • kangaroo786 on November 9, 2009, 3:52 GMT

    It's a modern day obsession to criticize a person at the pinnacle to satisfy our mediocre ego. I believe most of the people who are criticizing Sachin never have excelled at anything forget about representing the country. I don't think these guys have better cricketting minds than the legendary batsman Don Bradman or the spin magician Shane warne. The all time greats have already rated Sachin as the best batsman. Did any of you criticizing Sachin did anything under pressure. I still see him as a boy who is passionate about playing for his country. This is a country where even God get's criticized and Sachin is no exception. Ian Chappell makes money for writing. He has to make it something special especially if it's controversial it will be far better. Lara never had any respect for his country nor the game.

  • Bone101 on November 9, 2009, 3:21 GMT

    I don't understand why Dravid, Ganguly, Laxman, Kumble etc... are discounted as being 'average' team mates....... these were some of the very best cricketers of their generation.

  • styzian on November 9, 2009, 2:46 GMT

    As a opener its not always easy to finish the games on your own. Lara and Ponting batted at number 4 for most of their career matches, while Tendulkar has opened. Then when one plays a significant innings at the top oder, other batsman from the middle order should also be able to help in winning games.

  • Sach_is_Life on November 9, 2009, 1:58 GMT

    @Get_Over_Yourselves, You are absolutely correct..but when people make some random statements about some one else winning matches and Tendulkar not winning matches then what else you expect from Tendulkar fans and There is a misconception that we don't care abt team success but thats wrong..every tendulkar fan wants him to won matches for India and the man himself will take personal duck and a win for India instead of 200* and India's loss.For us..Tendulkar 100 was only a consolation that to because for most part of SRT's career India heavily depends on Tendulkar and till 2000s, it is like get Tendulkar out and win the Match..So,Whom to blame? Why all the Tendulkar Critics blame Tendulkar for rest of the 10 guy's failure?That never happend for Lara and Ponting.They dont even care abt that particular Innings..or they dont care the fact that he is an opener and scored more than half of his team's runs and take his team that close when no one has any hopes..THEY DON'T CARE ..That's IT.

  • avianu123 on November 9, 2009, 1:53 GMT

    ANd yes, one more thing, when Tendulkar performs unfortunately rest of the team just relaxes. THat's why teams like Australia and Pakistan have advantages. When one of their players performs, the rest of their teammates give them support and makes sure that the effort is not wasted. So please all stop comparing Sachin to others. It's a flaw in Indian team effort and not Sachin the champion.

  • avianu123 on November 9, 2009, 1:50 GMT

    @BharathRajeswaran . Sorry to say Bhrath, but you are one of those guys who want to see Sachin playing in every match!!!.. He is the one who brings the team to semifinals and finals alone.. He plays in 8/10 matches where unfortunately 9th and 10th may be semi and finals on rare occasions..Well if that's the case. India should send only Sachin out to play for India. one man team. why keep 11 players? It's ridiculous when someone like you say that he does not play in crucial matches. If you want to compare in few bad innings then also compare number of matches that he has played!! the latest examples being CB series, 175 last match, sharjah 1999. Just because he failed in few series doesn't mean he is not match winner. If you want to comment then comment on how the rest of guys are still dependent on Tendulkar? He got you to the finals when others were sleeping... time for others to wake up.. Why depend on Tendulkar to win every match?

  • AussiDesi on November 9, 2009, 1:44 GMT

    Hello Cricinfo Editors?

    Why did you decide to censor my comment? Would you care to let me know? I didn't say anything offensive, just wanted to remind the fans what Ian Chappell said back in 2007 about Sachin. You don't like people referring to old stories Cricinfo posted?

    Please don't censor legitimate comments.

  • Sach_is_Life on November 9, 2009, 1:40 GMT

    @Topic , Both Lara and Tendulkar played in relatively weak teams may be WI has better bowling attack and India has better batting line up (at least on paper) but Lara winning more matches than Tendulkar (single handedly) was absolute rubbish.They are very close in Test matches ( Thanks to Tendulkar's endless injuries from 2000 ) But in ODIs Tendulkar is Miles ahead of Lara.@Guys who wrote against Tendulkar here ..where are you when Tendulkar won finals for India (to name a few) in CB series,Triangular Series in SL or that test match in Chennai agnst England. And if you guys think that Ponting is great just becuase he was part of 3 WC winning teams ( and 4 WC finals) ..then do you think Brod hogg who was part of 2 WC winning teams was better than Shane Warne and Murali( part of 1 WC winning team).Poting is great and there is no doubt about that but the debate for best batsmen in ODIs was settled long time back and hope SRT will do that in Test Matches too ASAP.

  • Sach_is_Life on November 9, 2009, 1:06 GMT

    @BharathRajeswaran - I did check the stats of WI midde order..but still I'm not able to understamd why your Brian 'Best' Lara was the best ever batsmen to hold the willow? Can you explain me why? Instead of having world class bowlers like Walsh and Ambrose for most of his career he was not able to achieve anything big for WI as far as I know..not even a WC semis ..But Sachin did that twice for India in 96 and 2003 with a below par bowling attack and won many finals for India like Sharja,CB series and in SL to name a few.BTW, do you know the 4th innings average of your big match player Brian 'Best' Lara's fourth innings average? Our Sachin ' Second Best ' Tendulkar avgs more than your Brian ' Best ' Lara instead of playing in turning tracks in India where chasing a score of 150 to 200 runs in a 4th innings is used to be tough task for any batting line up.Instead of scoring 300s and 400s in dead rubbers ..can you tell me how many matches your Brian ' Best ' Lara won for WI?

  • decaby on November 9, 2009, 1:01 GMT

    look Sachin is great and so is Pointing ... Lets not forget the other players that made up India and Austrailia ... Lara is gresat because he had to carry the whole caribbean burden ... lets face if lara is the best sachin is superior and pointing earned his right to be along the greatest ...

  • ramanzdaredevils on November 9, 2009, 0:45 GMT

    Unfortunately.. people's memories are short lived.. Mr. Cricinformer288... People like you.. fit for nothing other than blabbering and taking pleasure in belittling ICONS.. not that it matters any way.. just for your short lived memory.. can u recall the little master's contributions in Australia not very long ago... in the CBA cup...

  • StatsguruMaster on November 8, 2009, 23:49 GMT

    Majr:

    You and many other Indians here are simply wrong about Ponting facing good attacks. You should remember that Ponting debuted in the mid-90s and did face the best bowlers, apart from his own of course. In fact, his record is better than the other two. He averaged 63 against Pakistan, 50 against SAfrica and 40 against the West Indies. Sachin averaged 30 against Pakistan, 34 against SAfrica 63 against the West Indies and 59 against an Australia that regularly had Warne either injured/out of form and without McGrath. Lara is the worst of the 3, he averaged 33 against SAfrica, 30 against Pakistan although 54 impressively against Australia.

    The irony is, Ponting actually averaged weaker against the weaker sides in the 90s. Post 2000, he blasts them all, regardless.

    So Ponting is clearly the best run-getter of the lot and is on course to break every record Sachin holds but at an even quicker rate. Heck, remove Bang. and Zim. and he averages a full 4-5 points higher than Sachin.

  • CustomKid on November 8, 2009, 23:37 GMT

    Most people who have commented here seem to forget that cricket is a team game. I'm not going to argue who is the best player out of the 3 batsmen in debate they are all wonerful, but ask your self this. Do you play for self glory and at the end of your career have not much to show other than runs on the board and a few records? Or do you play for the silverwear that ultimately defines your position in cricketing history? Of the 3 in debate only 1 on reflection of his career will look back and say I've achieved a hell of lot, Multiple WC's, CC's, test wins on every continent possessing most series trophies. Sure Ponting has been part of a great team but he's still made massive contributions both at No.3 and in the field. When he's called on in crunch moments he ususally delivers 2003 WC final anyone? Not only does he posses a great record (maybe not as good as Lara or Tendulka) but he also has the trophies to show for it. There is no 'I' in team just look what AUS have done 4-2 lol.

  • RDamodaran on November 8, 2009, 23:20 GMT

    Fantastic play by Aussies in the game. Sachin still played one of the best ODI innings. And many of us tend to forget that cricket is a team game. In many ways, Tendulkar has been unlucky, often his first mistake in these tremendous innings has been fatal. In ODI cricket, Sachin is light years ahead. His performances in worldcup, pivotal role in recent CB series, England, Srilanka, SA(in Belfort) wins show he's the corner stone. A opening batsman isn't a finisher in ODI cricket. Still he provides some of the best entertainment in his epic ODI/test innings. In test innings, the ranking maybe up for debate, but he's one of the best against the quality of the bowling lineups he has faced over the years. Lack of batting support in his early days, bowling and fielding support throughout his career hasn't let India utilize the once in a lifetime master. GO Sachin! you provide us with the very best entertainment.

  • MaruthuDelft on November 8, 2009, 23:05 GMT

    There may be more than 10 reasons for why Viv Richards is hailed as the best. From 1880 to 1975 except for occassional successes of West Indies, England and South Africa Australia had remained the best Test team. It was a stranglehold. By 1975 Windies had acquired the bowling resources to somewhat match Lilly and Thomson but they needed a batsman - no bowler/s can bring that 'x' factor to a team. you need a batsman-to really break the australian stanglehold and hold onto the winner's position without giving it back to Australia in 2 years as many did before including Sobers. Viv Richards did that. In 130 years of international cricket he is the only one to do it. 'waspsting' says he did not adjust his batting in his last years. He did not have to. He kept Windies on top for 15 years. The momemtum kept Windies at the top for another 5 years even when he was not playing before Australia got it back.

  • batmannrobin on November 8, 2009, 22:25 GMT

    wow !!! even after 20 yrs every columnist has to keep writing abt Sachin to keep himself goin..n Mr. Ian - It has taken u 3 yrs to accept that u were wrong with ur mirror on the wall article..ever since world cup 07 debacle he has scored 2183@54/7 100s in tests with sterling performaces in series wins in Eng07, Pak07, Aus 08, Eng08, NZ 09 and in the 2-1 narrow loss in Oz 07 and 2641@48/5 100s n 7 90s in ODS n single handedly winning the CB series n the compaq cup ( SL) n premier contributions against pak ( 07) NZ (09) , SA ( Belfast), Eng (07 n 08) and 'that' incredible 175 n all this @ 36. More than the runs the majesty of the manner of scoring is what probably only Lara can match

  • reddy29 on November 8, 2009, 22:20 GMT

    sangakara has just mentioned that tendlkar is the best batsmen in the world in modern era

  • reddy29 on November 8, 2009, 22:08 GMT

    Please checks the records Mr chappel,no player in the history has played as many match winnings innings as sachin did,and when it comes to finishing the game can u tell me how many matches did lara finsh to win a game it is very minimal and that is the reason you think lara has played more finishing innings,plz check the record.out of sachins 45 hundreds india have won 32 and wile chasing the innings sachin made 18 hundreds out of it india won 14 of them can u tell me how many centuries did ponting hit while chasing,enen in sachins 12 centuries there was nothing wrong in his innnings there were scores ard 280 and 300,but india couldnot defend it and thats not sachin problem and it was during ganguly captaincy,people, like u forget the innings which he played 2 yrs back in the final of 117 which was finishing innings against australia in sydney.

  • OldAussie on November 8, 2009, 21:33 GMT

    As an Aussie, I agree that Ponting is slightly behind Sachin and Lara for sheer batting skill, and he has also been helped by having very great players in his team most of the time. But remember that Punter has some years left to add to his stats, AND we need to look at his other big contributions - as fielder and captain. He did lose two series in England, but both very narrowly in the end. Now he's proving himself a fine leader in the field, something the other two haven't achieved. We need another category -Greatest Cricketer/batsman - not many others come up to Ponting's level even now. Got any rivals to mention?

  • vaidyar on November 8, 2009, 21:30 GMT

    @dinakar.moksh: Well said mate! I read Ian Chappell's articles mainly for their entertainment value. There is a common thread among all these : Label someone a future great, denounce a quality player saying he should either drop down the order, retire or should be sacked. The tendency to say something outrageous and against the flow of things is always lying in the background waiting to jump up. All it needs is a couple of failures and then there'll be an article asking him to retire. You are known to speak your mind. Please don't confuse that with saying things just because they are different from what the rest say. Don't be different for the sake of being different.

  • paramthegreat on November 8, 2009, 21:29 GMT

    and also , I never have belived Sachin to be a truely selfless player, simply because he wasnt ...he is prolly like Kallis(altho a hell lot better )....having said that , the Only reason tht Sachin hasnt won any world cups is the bad bowling lineup of India and their hopeless fielding and their abilty to collapse magnificiently like Pakistan in crunch games.Peace

  • anealjonathan on November 8, 2009, 20:07 GMT

    Oh well this is absolute non-sense. I agree with Quazar : Sachin has always been a match winner for us.We have won 32 games out of the 45 hundreds he scored.The reason for losing a few matches..as everyone knows india has a weak bowling attack.Lara or ponting had a very good bowling attacks perfectly to support whenever they did scored hundreds.It's very wrong to compare lara who was a middle order batsmen..obviously he can finish more games..on the other hand..sachin opens for us..obviously you can't expect an opener to bat through the entire innings.Despite this,Sachin has been the man of the match 59 times & 14 times for the man of the series.Show me a player who has done that?..which makes him even great..usually middle order batsmen finish and win games..hence, i DARE to say..Sachin is #1. Adding to this, sachin has been scoring consistently for 20 years now..beat that! I wonder which batsmen can properly hold the bat and score runs..when 50,000 crowd is screaming his name!

  • SnowArm on November 8, 2009, 19:53 GMT

    I simply dont understand why do people blame sachin who scores a century and tries to win a match for India. Why do people have to say that he just scores runs for himself and not for the country. I think Sachin has always played his role and people need to understand and should stop blaming him if India loses a match, its the other 10 players in the team who did not perform as well as Sachin did. I guess cricket is a team game and I guess instead of blaming Sachin we need to look at the bigger picture. Come on guys, I guess they are professional cricketers and I can't believe that they cannot score 17 runs in 15 balls with 3 wickets in hand. I guess if they can't make it then they don't deserve to be in a team. I think just because Sachin scores a century, India had a chance of winning.

  • niraj13 on November 8, 2009, 19:50 GMT

    I have heard several comments from many people saying Sachin was responsible for the loss in Hyderabad. Please remember guys that he could not have scored all the 351 runs by himself. And nobody can. 175 IN 141 BALLS. I say that again-175 in 141 balls- that is the absolute best any batsman can do and that too, under the lights and (not to mention) the immense pressure of scoring 7 runs an over. And after all that, the guy is criticized for not being a finisher and not a match winner. Come on people!!! Raina and jadeja also threw away their wickets after being well settled...nobody is making a note of that. They are young and inexperienced?- yes, but they got to take some responsibility. As far as the debate for the greatest batsman is concerned, everyone has their own reasoning. I, myself have consider Sachin as the best becasue he inspires me. Everytime I am in doubt, he comes up with an unbelievable gem like we witnessed on November 5.

  • sysubrceq0 on November 8, 2009, 19:07 GMT

    Hi BharatRajeswaran, If you think India as great batsmen supporting Sachin from 96 itself... then why dont u blame others when india lose matches? one more fact u r missing is Matches are not win by batsmen itself.. there has bowlers to perform any match.... India is a vey weak bowling team right from the begining, some flashes always come when the day is theirs... Ponting won so many test matches not bcos of his batting, his bowlers did this for him.. if ponting has same bowling attack as Sachin in india then i bet u dare to say that Ponting would have won many matches... why u all guys expect sachin as opener has to do finisher job also.. Ponting's run feast also with illeagal graphite bat which then ICC banned to use.

  • Criczloverz on November 8, 2009, 18:44 GMT

    to say the least here is Lara's record against india ODI I R HS AVG 100 42 1142 89 32.62 0

    IN TESTS I R HS AVG 100 17 1002 120 34.55 2

    compare anything between Sachin and Lara in ODIs Sachin will come way ahead of lara.

  • Sudeepm85 on November 8, 2009, 18:38 GMT

    I guess it is not required from you to speak about Sachin's mind and about its state. What makes you think that you can make statements against Sachin. After your remarks against him after 2007 WC, i guess you have lost it to take his name either. Just because you are a columnist and a commentator doesnt give the chance to speak out whatever you want. It would be a great gesture from you Ian, if you can recall your silly statements against him and apologise. I understnad Ponting has been your favourite lately and POnting has been doing extremely good. But to make Ponting a great i guess you dont need to demean Sachin. POnting himself rightfully accepts that Sachin is the best. And Sachin knows when to hang up his boots and he is best judge about his career. He might have cut down on few shots, but he hasnt stopped playing them. Its not the shots which determine the greatness of a player but the runs scored. Sachin has been consistently scoring and with better average and strike rate.

  • Sorcerer on November 8, 2009, 18:32 GMT

    Batting as an opener brings a massive advantage of fielding restrictions! I also recall Chappell's pertinent comment regarding the types of patta wickets where Sachin has generally scored as opposed to Ponting.

    Punter would smash Test records of Sachin quite easily - the two remianing i.e. tons and runs...as he is so much in the ascendancy and mighty fit.

    But the record of Ponting...the ultimate and most saught-after..... which will be unbeatable ostensibly for all times to come will be when he adds another 11 Tests to his Test win tally and rack up an astonishing 100 Test wins....what a matchwinner!

  • siddham2007 on November 8, 2009, 18:21 GMT

    Quazar, well said.. for the 3rd time in this blog, I emphasize the shoddy and mercenary attitude of most of the guys who play for India. I believe three catches were dropped against the Aussie batsmen in the near win and Sachin took a catch which probably put others half his age to shame. These guys perform so badly against a 'B' team like Aussie, what would they do against the likes of Glichrist, McGrath, Warne and Lee on song?

  • davedave on November 8, 2009, 18:18 GMT

    Sachin is not a finisher it is really a joke. No openers can play 50 full overs it is unfair to ask them to stay until the end. Okay how many openers in the cricket world have finished the game for their country?

  • Quazar on November 8, 2009, 17:28 GMT

    And very well played to Australia! Fantastic fighting spirit by a young team. Just goes to show what a difference fielding makes between 2 good teams. (As an aside, can you imagine if Tendulkar had played most of his career with a team that had fielders like Ponting, Symonds or Mark Waugh, or bowlers like Mcgrath, Warne, Ambrose, Walsh, Bishop! Probably all his so-called "nearly matchwinning" innings would have had happier endings...lucky Ponting and Lara!

  • Quazar on November 8, 2009, 17:12 GMT

    People forget that Tendulkar has had to deal with far more injuries (the 2 most severe being elbow operation and serious back problems - most of these ~2004-2006) than either Lara or Ponting. Despite that, the man is still a master. On Lara, I too give him a slight edge over Sachin in tests, but Sachin has clearly been the bigger matchwinner in ODIs (32 of his 45 tons led to wins), including the PRIMARY reason India made it to the WC semis in 1996 and the finals in 2003. On Ponting, he has done tremendously in Australia and South Africa (similar conditions), but in more alien conditions, he has clearly underperformed Lara and Sachin in Tests (i.e. Ponting averages below 50 in England and just 20 in India...despite numerous trips)

  • CricFan78 on November 8, 2009, 17:09 GMT

    tick how many Test runs has your best ever Ponting scored in India ... avg of 20 and still cant play spin as Harbhajan got him again today. Cant be better than Sachin or Lara unless you have blinkers.

  • dinakar.moksh on November 8, 2009, 17:05 GMT

    Hello Ian,

    After India's 2007 world cup debacle you wrote an article in Mid day asking sachin to retire. I still remember one startling (and extremely disappointing ) comment

    "At the moment he looks like a player trying to eke out a career; build on a glittering array of statistics"

    I was totally shocked to see such comments come from a person like you. I mean, it was total character assassination on a truly patriotic and sincere person. How on earth you can say that sachin is selfish and playing only to build on statistics and not to win matched for the country.

    Do you regret those comments in midday?? Hope you answer.

    And i hope you heard what sachin said after the innings " I care about playing for India, it's a passion and I have been absolutely honoured to play for India for so long."

    IT's NOT STATISTICS MATE!!!

  • BeeArr on November 8, 2009, 17:01 GMT

    India has/had one of the best batting lineups from 1997 to 2009.... 3 guys with more than 10000 odi runs and 4 guys in the test middle order with more than 6000 runs, two of them more than 10000... Still Sachin 'Second Best' Tendulkar has not been able to win anything big. Check stats of WI middle order and understand why Brian "Best" Lara was the best ever batsman to hold the willow. As one mate who pointed out, that ego which Lara had made him the best............. He was a Roark material while Sachin was a fabulous 'Wynand'//// Ponting is 'Keating'

  • BeeArr on November 8, 2009, 16:49 GMT

    oxypic- boss, sachin had ganguly and dravid from 96 with more than 10k runs and yuvraj sehwag who are matchwinners in sad tracks... still. he has not won it... compare this with wi batting lineup. And the fact is all about crucial games. 1999 wc quarterfinal- third ball duck to glenn mcgrath. 2007 wc 2nd ball 4 to glenn mcgrath. how many test series has he won against quality attacks in quality pitches... That's the point.... A real cricketer is one who plays in big testing games and more importantly in test cricket. sachin is a class. legend. complete guy. But sorry next to Brian Charles lara..... Mirror mirror- Who is the best batsman in world cricket. Brian Charles Lara. Love you Chappell. One of the few true guys in commentary and cricket. When it comes to Sir Don Bradman and cricket administration in Australia and also when it comes to Sachin and Lara. But a bit too partial towards that ponting who has not proved his talent in Indian turning pitches.... Correct it Chappell....

  • waspsting on November 8, 2009, 16:23 GMT

    @Get_Over_Yourselves - i agree with you that the "faced better attacks" is often an unfair comparison. after all, you can only score runs against those you play! Its one which I only occasionally pull out - for example with reference to Viv Richards. if ALL OTHER THINGS ARE ABOUT EVEN (as they were for Richards, Miandad, Gavaskar, Border, Chappell), then I give the edge to the guy who's faced the better attacks, especially when the difference in quality of attacks was as obvious as in that case. in the case of Tendulkar, Ponting and Lara... I don't think the quality of attacks was THAT obvious as to make it a factor, although I would rank Lara's performances against the Aussies, in which he scored 3 centuries in the four match series considerably higher than Ponting's against India, in which he scored a ton of runs, including two double hundreds for the reason of "having been against a better attack".

  • CricInformer288 on November 8, 2009, 16:21 GMT

    He's a great player indeed but he should dedicate his innings for the country. Else this is not the reason that many many times he scores Hundreds still his team lost. The latest one was in Hyderabad, Deccan.

  • CricInformer288 on November 8, 2009, 16:18 GMT

    I do not wan't to blemish the greatness of the great player like Tendulkar. But a great player is more admired when he's a good finisher. Thats where Aussies have the advantage all the Time.

    IN the past they had Bevan. Now they have Hussey brothers, Symonds etc. A decade ago, every team when playing against India used to plan that to attack Tendulkar and rest of the team will fog down. Now being a cricket fanatic I am happy this thing is gone from India.

    Why Inzi is said to be a great player, because whenever he had scored runs, the team won too. Couple of days ago B. McCullum also played a marvelous inning, which resulted in a series equaling win against the Favorites Pakistanis. So a great player whoever whenever he plays he has to play for the team, not for his personal milestone. Just tell me his last century or a high score which resulted in India's win? It was against the Lankans in the Compaq Cup. After that he only had his in 2007 against Pakistan.

  • cricmind on November 8, 2009, 16:14 GMT

    so much has changed in Indian cricket since sharjah 1998 to Hyderabad 2009 such as the world championship of t20 cricket , franchise cricket and not to forget the massive commercialization of game in the but one remains stagnant in Indian cricket still after 11 years that is in the past as well as to at present whenever the great man tendulkar is in a mood to achieve remarkable achievement for his side first he to do all by himself no other indian batsman provides him the necessary support which is essantial such as in sharjah no Indian batsman scored 70 in his both innings ,in chennai 99 he agained left on his without any support from top order this trend still continues as in hyderabad no no top order bastsman got a fifty even and secondly if he gets out after when giving india victory in striking distance it alway proves so near yet so far !his should change in indian cricket.

  • waspsting on November 8, 2009, 16:09 GMT

    Chappell's hit the nail right on the head. the greatness of Sachin Tendulkar is in his mind - the willingness to go on and on (with his career, not a particular innings), and to do whatever it takes to do so. when he adjusted his game to a slower tempo, there was criticism - but where is it now? Tendulkar knows what he's doing... better than any of us can do (which is NOT true of all players). The way he adjusted his technique in mid-series against the Aussies to finish the last test with 300 runs without being dismissed a few years ago... I don't think any other player could have done that. @MaruthuDelft - I guess i'm making the exact opposite point that you made, but don't you think Viv would have SERVED HIS TEAM BETTER if he'd knuckled down, not played across the line as much and scored more runs when his abilities were waning? Scoring runs, after all, is the name of the game. Lara by contrast, was scoring well when he was PUSHED into retirement.

  • greatcricfan on November 8, 2009, 15:36 GMT

    enough of this debate.....just show me the match winning and finishing innings of lara, inzi and ponting in ODIs...and dont forget sachin has scored the highest runs in 2 world cups...

  • Chapel on November 8, 2009, 15:31 GMT

    I think sachin is the greatest player of his generation. Talking about match winning innings how many did ponting play. He had many good players in his side like gilchrist , martyn, warne, mcgrath. So australia were dominant during last 10 years. His team won many matches because of them not simply because of his batting. Coming to india sachins batting was the backbone in many indian wins. In my opinion sachin is the best followed by lara and ponting

  • praveenahathwarkn on November 8, 2009, 15:25 GMT

    Always people think cricket as a single man's game its where the problem arises, eventhough sachin scored 175 while chasing and were only 19 short of the target with many balls left the rest of the members in the team failed so they are to be blamed . How many times lara has chased a target of 300+ and even ponting when lara's playing WI have lost more than they have won. Australia always play as a team so they win and dont depend only on ponting. If Sachin hasn't played an innings like that India would have lost the match by around 150+ runs.

  • akki79 on November 8, 2009, 15:25 GMT

    While comparing tendulkar with ponting, lara, and some greats from yesteryears, people seem to forget the position at which they bat. Tendulkar is an opener and expecting him to finish every game is unreasonable. When lara and ponting (definitely) come to bat, more often than not they already have a some platform.

    Lara: In tests he had some flashes of brilliance and that gives him an edge over other 2 (only in tests!). However, in ODIs he is nowhere near tendulkar. He hasn't played any more finisher's innings than tendulkar in ODIs. List please?

    Ponting: Can someone provide a list of ODI/test innings where ponting single-handedly finished the game for aussies? Not talking about scoring a big 100 batting first in a run-fest and winning (tendulkar has two dozen such innings). I'm talking about playing a match-winning knock while chasing, where none of his team-mates made many? Besides help from openers, he has been lucky to have some sensible lower order bats to finish the job.

  • rugveda78 on November 8, 2009, 14:53 GMT

    everything in this world, the achievements, the targets, the aims, the goals, the capabilities, all relates to the mental strength. if u believe u can do something thats difficult, u can do it, atleast u can come close to what u have thought of. sachin's mental strength has been sach-incredible. he has fought back injuries, elbow injury, toe injury and still has returned to cricket-world. yes he may not be what he used to be a decade ago, but he is still minting runs and that's what is more important. he knows how to build innings, how to pace it and how to reach the target with lesser stress, that's what he displayed in his 175 in hyderabad. there were lesser risks taken, many singles-doubles he ran and still played a gem of a innings. he almost stole the game away from aussies.

  • Sorcerer on November 8, 2009, 14:48 GMT

    Such mindless babble for one to assert that Ponting has played against inferior bowling attcaks than Sachin has! Take away the matches played against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, and Sachin's batting average drops even further in comparison to Ponting. Have a look at Sachin's average against SA and Pak. Also find out who were in the bowling attack when Sachin scored majority of his big scores V Aus.

    And don't even talk about quality of pitches and utility of scores for the team....Ponting has no less than 89 Test match wins to his credit....the greatest matchwinner of all time. Yes he had others to assist, but he himself has been truly astounding. and add 3 WCtriumphs to this tally. Wither, Sachin, just like he spluttered to a halt today when most needed...

  • sajohn on November 8, 2009, 14:31 GMT

    Mr Ian Chapel, I just hope you will be humble enough to eat your words posted in the column "Look into that mirror, Sachin" on March 30 2007. Those remarks in the column were uncalled for, hope you realize that. Cheers.

  • SatyajitM on November 8, 2009, 14:16 GMT

    Good to see Ian Chappel accepting his mistake "More than a decade later Tendulkar has converted a whole new set of Australian non-believers...". As per as who is the greatest among the three (though I still don't consider Ponting is the same class as the other two), it's easy in ODI. Cold statistics would show Sachin ahead in both avg and strike rate compared to Lara and Ponting. In ODI Ponting has been more effective than Lara always (Ponting has that bloody minded attitute you have to appreciate). but when compared to Sachin he falls behind in ODI (the simple fact that with 60 MOM Sachin is way ahead of the next best). In test Sachin and Lara are equals (though Sachin has slightly better avg). Though Ponting has slightly better stats than Sachin in tests, you can not deny that it is due to 2003-07 run fest when too many people averaged close to 70 and improved their stats. I would say in last two decades Ponting has been the third best batsman. You know who are the best two...

  • MaruthuDelft on November 8, 2009, 14:15 GMT

    'oxypnictides' is right in saying India would not have been near to winning positions without Tendulkar but I do not compare Tendulkar with ordinary batsmen and Bevan. When comparing to great batsman he falls a little short. Viv is the best since world war. Second is Sobers. Lara and Barry Richards are third but if Barry Richards had sufficient tests he would have been the clear third. Tendulkar, Gream Pollock and Greg Chappel are joint 4th. Martin Crow 5th. Everyone else after that. Ponting failed to impress and win against Lara and Tendulkar when the competion was really on. There is no point doing the stuff after they have reduced the intensity.

  • Ravichandran on November 8, 2009, 14:14 GMT

    It is difficult to Compare Sachin and Ponting based on the success of their respective team. Ponting is blessed with very good team throughout his career. For example, during chennail test against pakistan and again in Hyderabad ODI, after Sachin was out Indian team could n't able to score remaining 15 odd runs. Had Indian won on both occation, Sachin would have been hailed. Even in World record chase of 425 by SA, Gibbs scored only 175, SA team was good enough to cover up the remaiing score. Unfortunately for Sachin he had to score all the runs.

  • Nibsy on November 8, 2009, 14:09 GMT

    Lara and Tendulkar are legends of the game but Ponting has only come onto the scene once the lethal bowlers had disappeared off the circuit. Ponting had to never really face the might of the Windies pace quartet or Mcgrath, Warne, Waqar, Wasim and Donald. If he did face them at any stage of his career he never made any runs against them. Out of the 2 of them there is not a clear winner. However, at the outset it looked as though Lara would be the clear No 1 but the way their glittering careers have panned out they are level pegging and it is out of personal choice who you prefer.

  • DeathRaider on November 8, 2009, 13:49 GMT

    Can we ever be satisfied?? your bowlers are pathetic..they are leaking 350 odd runs..nd still u expect Sachin to score 300 of them...is this even fair?? come on guyz..give it a thought while u compare lara or ponting wid him..lara after scoring 400 said that he dint want to lose 4-0 so he continued batting to get to 400..isn't that selfish..nd lara was aware of the fact that wteva he did..he had a terrible team that wud collapse netime...ponting had waugh brothers..haydos..langer..martyn to support him...1990's tendulkar was the lone warrior..nd the recent performances by the team still suggest that the team is still dependent on him.. Stop crucifying him for God's sake..he has done more for this country in 20 years than we do even in a life time !! nd seriously..we are no1 to judge him or criticize him.. !! Leave aside the great man !!

  • Rohan1 on November 8, 2009, 13:48 GMT

    EVEN after 20 YEARS, ONLY Sachin Tendulkar - the greatest batsman of all time- can raise such passions!!! RESPECT.

  • shankupals on November 8, 2009, 13:41 GMT

    Mr BharathRajeswaran! I watched lara's innings of 153 many times. It was a classy inning but he was dropped by warne when 4 more runs to go for win and windies were 9 wickets down. He would have been SRT had he not been dropped.

  • vivek464 on November 8, 2009, 13:37 GMT

    Lara and Tendulkar are a lot better than Ponting. The first reason is because Lara and Tendulkar, for a great percentage of their career were depended on to win the games for their respective countries. Where areas Ponting had Gilchrist, Hayden, the Waugh brothers, and of course Bevan. The next reason is that Ponting had such brilliant bowlers on his team (Warne, McGrath etc.). Sure Lara had Walsh and Ambrose, but they were coming towards the end of their career when Lara was at his peak. Finally, when Ponting screwed up on juicy pitches and raging turners, Sachin and Lara dominated brilliant bowling attacks ( 2 Ws, Donald and Pollock, Ambrose and Walsh, and Warne and McGrath). Ponting is a great batsmen, but not up there yet. Of course one reason why Ponting was picked was his electric fielding. I think Lara is a better player of spin, and Tendulkar is a better player of pace.

  • siddham2007 on November 8, 2009, 12:43 GMT

    For the Indian Cricket board I suggest: 1. Regularize and discipline the cricketers' earnings, their participation in T20s, and mercenary events like ads, fashion shows and reality TV. 2. Change cricketers' earnings to have the money they get per match to pre-2000 levels BUT keep the winning money to present levels

  • tick on November 8, 2009, 12:38 GMT

    for me as a neutral ponting,lara,tendulkar are all great batsman.but ponting would be standout.his several innings are the all time great in history of criciket.his records are rapidly approaching tendulkars especially in tests and along with that which makes him the best one is that he is the captain of australia for now about6,7 years in which he won the world cup twice along with many series.2 away ashes losses dont spoil the records that much.HIS 5 TEST HUNDREDS against SOUTHARICA in 6 tests both away and at home were remakable which made him best of the best.

  • oxypnictides on November 8, 2009, 12:36 GMT

    Not a finisher! Not a finisher! How long will this inanity still be applied for Sachin? Does anyone realize that India would not have been even close to "finishing" (Hyderabad one of the most glaring examples) most games if Sachin was not there in the team? CB series finals, Sharjah 98, numerous matches in world cups, Hyderabad - there would have been no "finishing" in these games without Sachin! Lara is great - no doubt - but could he put a wretched West Indies team even close to "finishing" in most of the games he played? Even Sir Viv got out chasing a mere 183 in a rather important game (world cup final) without "finishing": it happens to everybody. In a strong team (Australia) simply someone else stands up - in a weak team there isn't anyone else - that's all. Frankly, given a choice between Michael Bevan (the greatest "finisher" in one day history) and Sachin - can you see a bunch of selectors picking Bevan?

  • MaruthuDelft on November 8, 2009, 12:11 GMT

    Of course Tendulkar has great skills but by mind he is just an average and practical person and that is why he is not equal to Brian Lara, Viv Richards and Barry Richards. Viv, Barry and Lara never resorted to average ways to get runs. Results were not important to them. They were selfish. They had big egos. They wanted to do it their ways until the very end of their careers. That is exactly why they had the cutting edge. Ordinary batsmen cannot do it because they do not have the skills to match it but Tendulkar could have done it but unfortunately runs, centuries and performance meant more to him than the ego driven class so he has lost the fearlessness that comes with ego driven arrogance and class. When Lara was moving up towards the winning mark there was no way to stop him but the average minded Tendulkar is always fallible. Tendulkar is like G Pollock. And as for Ponting it is not right to compare him with Viv, Lara and Tendulkar. He is just a hard worker but not a born genius.

  • crankypet on November 8, 2009, 12:05 GMT

    I wish Indiian supporters would decide what they think about their team. Last week predictions of 6-1 were trotted out, "India is the best team and Australia is over" was commonly heard. Well what a bunch of nervous nellies the Indian team is unable to deliver when it counts.....again. Minimal pressure gets put on them by a let's face it second and even thrid level Australian bowling attack and they fold like a deck of cards. Teldulker failed today and the top order disintegrated. He makes 175 and still gets criticised by many Indians, what does the poor guy have to do to lift others. That's a great team??????

  • BeeArr on November 8, 2009, 11:58 GMT

    cdiitm: check the facts before your speak, when venki prasad got out to henry olonga, sachin was not in the team... sadagoppan ramesh and ganguly opened.

    And sachin for all his greatness cannot be lara......... watch that 153 video again......... That's called finishing a game. And for those who say sachin played in an understrength team, sachin had azhar in prime form between 1990-94, kambli in 92, in odi's jadeja was a decent player and still not many matches won.. lara had no one. the form of richie richardson was pathetic between 93-96, chanderpaul became a contributer after 96 and his best was after 2002-03. still lara with jimmy adams, phil simmons and those mediocre players and that elegant inconsistent hooper managed to deny a series to a full length aussie side. not like our sachin who belted kasprowicz and fleming in sharjah..........................

  • Sakib241 on November 8, 2009, 11:54 GMT

    well, thinking about today's age Sachin is certainly the best bestman followed by Lara and Ponting. But when somebody thinks deeply you can clearly feel that some of the achievements of these great batsmen are due to their fancy gears, helmets, bats and plastic tracks. I wonder if they would've been anywhere close to Sir Don Bradman or Vivian Richards in stats without these.

  • Bobby_Talyarkhan on November 8, 2009, 11:44 GMT

    Sachin is a great player no doubt - his longevity is amazing - to be still playing as well as he is after 20 years at the top is astounding. And the pressure on him to perform - that is unimaginable for us mortals! But when the chips are down, the others are faltering, there is a game to win, a top class bowling attack to contend with - who has the strength of character to master the situation and lead his team to victory? Lara or Ponting, EVERY TIME! The true test of Sachin's character came when he was made captain - he simply could not cope with the pressure. That was the defining moment. Lara had a terrible team around him yet still managed to play match winning innings as captain, Ponting plays great innings both when his team were no:1 and now when they are rebuilding. Sachin is a true immortal but his failure to take his game to another level as captain and lead his team to glory will always count as the one blemish in an otherwise outstanding career.

  • RaghuramanR on November 8, 2009, 11:29 GMT

    Nobody will disagree that Lara and Sachin are great players, if you look at them individually. I would like others to just see the scorecard of test match between West Indies and Australia at Kensington Oval in March 1999. Individual player following is good for some people but the perspective of team should not be lost. I remember the World Cup 2003 match at Taunton where Ganguly and Dravid scored centuries. Many in my college were shouting for Dravid to get out. Why? So that Sachin can come. Dravid did get out and Sachin also got out after scoring just 2. I am not sure why we are so obsessed about individual records. Probably that is the reason after the World Cup victory in 1983 under Kapil Dev and Benson Hedges World Series Cup in 1985. We basically have won NOTHING, apart from tri-nation series, 20-20 series which anybody can win. We have to COMPETE with the best team in the world. That is the most important thing. We have lost to a team that lost 7 players :o

  • Get_Over_Yourselves on November 8, 2009, 11:28 GMT

    At the end of the day, I find it difficult to stomach many of these comments. Indian fans laud Tendulkar ad nauseum (for good reason; he is a wonderful batsman and a fine person), trying to find statistics to back their assertions he is a better batsman than Ponting, Lara etc. However there isn't enough focus on team success, which appears to be the point of differentiation between Aus and India.

    I think you'll find the vast majority of cricket-loving Aussies will give Tendulkar his due as a greater batsman than any modern Aussie batsman. I think you'll also find many Aussies don't really care about splitting hairs whether X or Y is a better batsman. Rather, as long as the team is winning, Glenn McGrath could be top scoring for all they care.

    As a footnote, "Lara & Tendulkar playing against stronger attacks" is an unfair comparison. That suggests that a player of an elite, successful team (eg Ponting) would not be considered the top player of his time no matter how successful he is.

  • SachBro on November 8, 2009, 11:11 GMT

    @kantipur I cant believe you rated Ponting as the best one day batsman. A man who cant play spin bowling for his life cannot be crowned as the best player in any form of the game. Speaking of Lara, he was alright in one day cricket and great in test matches, however you should never make Lara the best test batsman because of what he did at Saint Johns; to me those were decent knocks but not great, wicket was dead, bowling attack was feeble and match did not yield any result. Speaking of Lara's best innings, well it was against Aus where he won the game for his team with a 150 plus score, he got lucky, when Aus starts dropping catches in the slip cordon, of both Lara and tailenders batting with him, you can pretty much guess; its dooms day for the Aussies. The so called feeble bowling attack that Sachin faced at Sharjah was one of the best in the world at that time(with warnie),(Pak had the best with Akram, Waquar, Azhar and Saq). All your views goes on to show your lack of knowledge.

  • Zubair on November 8, 2009, 11:03 GMT

    Tendulkar is a great batsman and there is no way one could doubt his ability and his temperament! His records speaks for himself but the bitter truth is that he hasnt been able to finish the games properly for quite a long time now, even in 1998 Semi Final against Australia in Sharjah, he could not win India the match, he did eventually push India through to the finals but he lost his wicket when they needed him to win them that match! Even in this game, he lost his wicket at a very crucial time and he knew exactly that India dont have reliable batsmen to come if he gets out but still he played a shot which was not an ideal one and which was not required as India only needed something like 17 runs of 15 or 14 deliveries, which they could have easily chased if Tendulkar was there! So he does have this bad habit to lose his wicket at crucial stages. I am not saying that he is not a great chaser, he is a great chaser but not a good finisher, something that Ponting or even Inzi did better!

  • rookie4u on November 8, 2009, 10:41 GMT

    Well, most of us are still not convince that this was one of his best innings. With Sachin, it was always due. If you closely analyse his years of cricket one thing that immediately comes to your mind is the big impression Sachin makes in every series he plays. I think thats what he did in the inning at Hyd. Sachinis trying to gather runs instead of dominating the bowlers like he use to do. There's when I think Lara & Ricky have excelled. They have always dominated the bowling and never really changed their game. No doubt that Lara & Sachin were probably a touch above rest of the batsmen of this generation. But, as cricketer Ricky is much above them. Because not only he has been a premier batsman for his team but he has always been the best fielder. He has led 2 World Cup winning team for Aus and has been a part of another World Cup wining team. How many cricketers have achieved this feat. Without a doubt I support Boycott that Ricky & Kallis are probably the best cricketers of decade.

  • asfandyar_pakipower on November 8, 2009, 10:31 GMT

    whatever sachin have achieved over the years here in pakistan we always believe sachin hasnt won more matches for his country than inzamam did for pakistan. i dun believe that he always plays for himself or for the record but he hasnt got the ability to finish games on his own ...to prove right my statements i ll give u the example of india were unable to win a test series outside the subcontinet for more that 18 years and they never manage to win world cup so in the end sachin's runs are worthless if he hasnt brought the glory i think inzi will be much more satisfied player than him when sachin decides to hang up.

  • cdiitm on November 8, 2009, 9:08 GMT

    @Kanthipur: Ponting was played 4world cup finals as u said. But, did u remember aussies scored 207 only in 96, 214 in 99, 213 in 2003 semis and all out SA fr 148 in 2007 world cup semis. All those matches they won because of their bowling capability and not because of ponting alone. Where as sachin was the key player fr india in all the word cups. But, his team mates let the collapse at eden in 1996 semis, bowlers allowed 359 in 2003 final, v.prasad was unable to score 2runs against zimbabwe in 99 word cup.Who thinks of all these mistakes? Cricket is team game, not a single army game. You said, sachin played against aussie weak attack in 98 and 2009. In that case, ponting never faced real tough and quality bowling. He might have faced one good bowler frm one end, but if he resisted him fr an over,he scored from other end who was generally bit easy to face. But,thatz nt case fr sachin. Every bowler is tough2 face in aussie line up and no room for relax & pressure on to score runs.

  • cdiitm on November 8, 2009, 8:46 GMT

    Before talking abt sachin, guys u just think once about his poor team mates. Until yuvi came in to team, India has no good finishers at all. And leaving to team mates with 19 reqrd off 18balls or 16 required in chennai test is pretty comfortable for others. But, Ind low order never believe in them selves. And when compared to ponting. all must realize that sachin faced great bowling depths incl windies, Pak,Aussies, Eng bowlers right from 80's generation to till now with carrying 100crore people expectation from the age of 16 it self and always played under tremendous pressure on him. But, Ponting in other side always played in comfortable zone with great players giving company to him/rotating strike/scoring runs from other end keeping less pressure on him. When coming2 winning matches, Ponting alone/even bevan never won match single handedly fr aussies without some help from bowling allrounders. Even if ponting scored hardly 30-40 runs, their bowling is capable to protect even 200.

  • suni_kumar on November 8, 2009, 8:43 GMT

    Intersted to note jeet19800 comments that he did not like someone at college, well I believe that you need "one quality to like someone and you need none to hate", people who love to dislike others with no reason will remain loners in life, so never too late, and siddham2007 missed some games( in 1998 when sachin gave night mares to warne and allowed lee to score "double 100" while bowling..!! in 2004 when he score 241..) and some people in this discussion I think they have been watching chess games to blame sachin for india not winning more games.. it is team game 11 players are paid to play for India..: ).. deep blue22.. fantastic man.. love your line.. please come here more often.. we need guys who use brains when writing..

  • Ritesh_Bhagwat on November 8, 2009, 8:32 GMT

    I'm a Big Fan OF Lara also.People say that he had played incredible number of Match winning innings. 2 things here.. How many Match winning innings has he played, can someone tell me. Also he had Walsh and Ambrose with him in all match winning innings. His 375 and 400 were in a dawn Match. Bearing his 153 vs Australia please let us know the other inings????? While I think the crown was always shared by Sachin and Lara and then when the bowling standards declined the crown is currently owned by Ponting.

  • kantipur on November 8, 2009, 8:27 GMT

    Nice comparision of Sachin now and then. But one thing we should remember is that both the innings in 1998 and 2009 have come against very very depleted and weak Australian attack. That's why I won't put these innings as his best.

    Although calling Lara or ponting better than tendulkar might spark some comment from indian fans in this article. But for me Ponting will remain best batsman i have seen in the ODI and Lara for the test. Ok Tendulkar has been phenomenal in terms of record particularly in ODIs . But Ricky ponting have been great as well. If God comes and offers me a career in ODI's between ponting or Tendulkar I would chose Pontings wihtout hesitation. He has been winner of 3 world cup finals . Something like pele for football. Also the winner of 2 ICC champions trophy . He has played 4 world cups and been in the finals every time. How great is that ?

  • Optimistix on November 8, 2009, 8:24 GMT

    Wow, there are people who actually think that there's no innovation in Sachin's batting! And that he's "insecure" - this of a guy who's never let all the adulation go to his head.

    "jeet19800", your description of someone mediocre but hardworking might fit someone like Sanjay Bangar. To think that Tendulkar is mediocre in terms of raw ability, regardless of whether you like him or not, just shows a serious lack of objectivity.

    Oh well, maybe there's just an international conspiracy to make the "mediocre" Sachin seem special, which is why opposition players, including the best bowlers of hist time, rate him so highly.

    You can forget about the "maybe", your reasons are surely personal.

  • paramthegreat on November 8, 2009, 7:54 GMT

    @jeet: Perhaps, you wd mind telling us what have u ever done in life so far that makes u think u r "great" enough to decide whether or not u think Tendulkar is gr8....

  • sskjames on November 8, 2009, 7:50 GMT

    I wonder what more people expect from Tendulkar? It's really painful to read some comments (by Raguraman).

    Yes, Sachin scored 170+ and India lost. Whose mistake is that? What did the Yuvrajs, Gambhirs, Sehwags do. Are they worthy to the team? Do you expect one man to win every match for India?

    It's not Sachin's mistake. Blame it on people like Yuvraj, Sehwag and Harbhajan who are in the team just because they are good friends of our beloved captain. Even after a decade Sehwag can't move his average beyond 33 and Harbhajan is simply blocking the entry of other talented spinners into the team.

    Don't be biased and blame Sachin just because you don't like him.

  • deepblue22 on November 8, 2009, 7:34 GMT

    jeet19800...the only sentence of yours that makes sense is the one that says that your reasons to dislike tendulkar are personal.

  • don69 on November 8, 2009, 7:17 GMT

    even a die-hard aussie like me will be happy to admit Sachin is the greatest one day batsman that ever was, and is likely to remain that way for many years to come. He may not be Pontings equal as a leader (although Ponting himself is nowhere near the world's best at that) or even as just an ordinary test batsman. But in ODIs he is first' second and third on the list, with fourth very far behind.

    Unlike others, I would hope Sachin quits tests, 20/20, domestic cricket and any other form and just stays with ODIs aiming at prolonging his career till 40. He had some incredible test innings as well, to be sure, but its simply a privilege to see him play in ODIs and I hope he has at least another Aus ODI tour in him. If he can just play around 30-40 ODIs per year his body could maybe handle that and we'll have the chance to see some more masterclass performances from him.

  • anban on November 8, 2009, 7:15 GMT

    I think in comparing modern day batsmen (read Lara, Ponting and Tendulkar) people tend to confuse the issue about the importance of formats. I think most people would agree that the race is too close to call in tests, but in the ODI format, the question has long been settled. There is none and has never been a better ODI batsman than Sachin. Sachin has played more matches(436), scored more runs (17K+), at a better average (44.5) and a better strike rate (85.79) than Lara and Ponting. The fact that he did this while carrying a nation of billion on his own little shoulders is even beyond herculean. I dare say that we are not likely to see this quality statistic in future ODI generations ever.

    So all those who still doubt him - chill! This man is truly the god in ODI batting. Give him his due and his pantheon.

  • joey81 on November 8, 2009, 7:14 GMT

    For all sachin critic, and those who say he is not finisher, still he should have won those matches; u people should understand it is the team game. others also should chip in. Even though it is a team game. ha had take team to this point. God will only show the way, mortals have to garb. God wont do everything. [Read God as sachin and mortals as rest of the team]

  • Ilin on November 8, 2009, 7:02 GMT

    he is best cricketer till now.even bradman couldnt survive 150 tests and 450 odi's and maintain such a brilliant batting avg like sachin does.player like tendulkar born only once in 500years.nobody can break his records of odi centuries.hats off to u god of cricket.....

  • fawad.kirmani on November 8, 2009, 6:54 GMT

    Mr. Chappell you Aussies just want to include Ponting in the same leauge as of Tendulkar and Lara. Mind you that Ponting has scored only ONE century against India in India ( probably the only team which challenged Australia's superiorty).

  • meero26 on November 8, 2009, 6:20 GMT

    With all respect to the great players like Lara and Ponting, I can not put them in the same class as Sachin. Watching Sachin play in Hyberabad after 20 years of cricket in the manner that he did just confirms his special class. Beside his UNIQUE statistics which I find him more superior compared to any other player.(ex Bradman) his defensive and specially his attacking techniques are all in a UNIQUE class. I cant see any other player playing as good as tendulkar in executing his masterful shots. We also seem that we forget that tendulkar has mainly played as an opener in ODI which is the hardest position in batting not like ponting(3rd) and Lara (4th) . For him to achieve all these runs, statsitics , enjoyment, records as mainly an opener is just superb and puts him ahead of Lara and ponting. An interesting thought is how lara and ponting would have gone if they were openers.I dont think they would be no where near Sachin . most of all Sachin's sportsmanship puts him way ahead of all

  • rohan024 on November 8, 2009, 6:07 GMT

    Its a shame that India didn't win the match but it had nothing to do with Sachin getting out on 175. As much as i can think back in time most of the great innings had ended before the match was completed. Lara's best ODI innings (to me) was in 1997 against Aus when he literally went crazy and scored 90 runs but still got out 10-12 runs short of target. The tailenders managed to score those. Similarly Gibbs did get out on 175 against australia whle chasing 400+. Recently Ponting did get out on 126 while chasing 299. Johnson & White managed to score the remaining 40 runs. Inzimam did get out on 60, still 25 runs short against NZ in 92 WC. Infact, of all these only Tkar is the opener. In life you don't get things just because you deserve them. At times, you have to give it to destiny graciously and admit that perhaps Tkar was not destined to complete the Chennai Test or Hbad ODI.

  • Rufus_Fuddleduck on November 8, 2009, 6:06 GMT

    Absolutely bang on Majr. Why doesn't the statistics team at Cricinfo take out a day and put together all the times that the great Ian Chappell has opened his mouth, taken out one foot and inserted the other?? It makes one think. Tendulkar really showcased all his 20 years in that one night. And yeah, Ponting is great but the rest of the batting shows up with the bulldog Aussie spirit for which salute to them. We had Sehwag, Yuvraj, Gambhir and Dhoni gone and 300 to get and Tendulkar got us to the line, where we messed up because of no one to implement the Batting Powerplay. God help the entertainment circus that is the Indian batting line-up.

  • jeet19800 on November 8, 2009, 5:55 GMT

    I have never been a great Fan of tendulkar. i still resist the "Great" tag put upon him. My reasons may be personal. I never liked the guy in my engineering college who was hard-working, disciplined, Mediocre, selfish and strong-willed. For me he remain a mediocre with no originality whatsoever in his achievements and deeds. Every time i watch Tendulkar batting that guy come in to my mind. Well, Genius is not about Talent only. You cant bully your way in to greatness by strong-mind. You remain a technically sound batsman with immense temperament and hunger for success. But, You never devised a new-shot, a new strategy to bat (Like Jaisurya, made power-play wat itslong back in some world-cup ), You were never a genius, You are not intelligent or mercurial, you are just a very hard-working guy with lots of hunger to prove yourself. But one who is insecure deep down, behaves and act like that. With all your records and longetivity, You remain a mediocre for me.

  • RaghuramanR on November 8, 2009, 5:41 GMT

    Being an Indian cricket follower, I cant agree that others tried to ALWAYS play second fiddle to Sachin. I dont think Sourav Ganguly tried to play second fiddle to Sachin at all. Infact that is the reason why many fans and even cricket commentators tried to put down Ganguly as and when possible. Infact Ian Chappell himself said that if Sachin scores a century and India loses, Indian fans go home delirious, whereas if Ponting scores a century and Australia loses, Australian fan would go home and kick the cat. As I said, financial reasons demands such change of stance.

  • siddham2007 on November 8, 2009, 5:31 GMT

    Mr Chappell, While this is nothing to do with the content of this article. Baggy green is the one team people love to hate but all credit to the system which keeps the Aussie team at or near the top CONSISTENTLY. I think the 100% professionalism, teamwork, dedication and never say die attitude that has been installed in the players who do NOT seem to get CARRIED AWAY by WINS OR LARGE MATCH MONEY is the hallmark of the Australian team (notwithstanding the 'gamesmanship' and the bad loser attitude)

    I have one comment to make abt the players who play for India these days - that is, the mid level and junior players. This seems to be the worst and most unprofessional team India has fielded this decade. The Indian team reached its height under Ganguly-Wright. An Aussie side with McGrath Warne and Lee in full form would make mincemeat of this bunch

  • batmannrobin on November 8, 2009, 5:14 GMT

    well, this seems to be one of the most popular misconceptions. Sachin in tests( drawn/won) - 9688@65 / 33 100s Lara in tests ( drawn /won) 6600@66 / 20 100s sachin in tests ( won) - 4400@65 / 16 100s Lara in tests ( won ) - 2930@61/ 8 100s Sachin in ODIS ( won) - 10360@57/ 32 100s Lara in ODIs ( won) - 6550@60 / 16 100s The avg is almost same. However the # of runs n 100s scored-Sachin is way ahead. People seem to be remember the 153 in 99 alone n always say Lara was a gr8 match winner.

  • RaghuramanR on November 8, 2009, 5:12 GMT

    It is an indictment of the state of Indian cricket that we are Sachin-obsessed and fact remains that we still can depend only on Sachin. Sehwag, Yuvraj and Gambhirs are falling by the wayside. I think Sachin is single-minded as Gavaskar and nothing more can be expected from him. Maybe financial reasons is demanding support for Tendulkar from columnists but unless 2011 World Cup is won by India, fact is he will remain yet another holder of lot of records, but nothing MORE worthwhile for the team.

  • siddham2007 on November 8, 2009, 5:11 GMT

    I have one comment to make abt the players who play for India these days - that is, the mid level and junior players. This seems to be the worst and most unprofessional team India has fielded this decade. The Indian team reached its height under Ganguly-Wright. An Aussie side with McGrath Warne and Lee in full form would make mincemeat of this bunch

  • Percy_Fender on November 8, 2009, 5:11 GMT

    Ian Chappell seems a chastened man after the avalanche of comments against him with reference to his last article in which he had suggested that Ponting was a greater batsman than Lara and Tendulkar. Perhaps he read through some of them and realised that Ponting has never had to play the quality of bowling as both Lara and Tendulkar have had to in their glorious careers. Probably he has realised that longevity is indeed an essential in assessing a batsman's standing in history. Sachin Tendulkar's innings in the Hyderabad ODI probably encapsuled his entire career. It had just about everything that any keen fan of his will have seen over the last nearly 2 decades.Glorious strokeplay,committment and even the tragic element which was the case in the Ranji final against Haryana many summers ago, or at Perth against the fury of Mcdermot's Australia or at Chennai, against Wasim and Saqlain in their pomp. It was just him and no-one else.That is a perhaps part of his greatness.

  • svasudevan on November 8, 2009, 5:07 GMT

    Jadeja and others just panicked as without Sachin they just couldn't believe in themselves, save Praveen. It is the mental block of the team and the thought that if someone has started a job, it is their sole responsibility to finish it off, especially if that someone is Sachin. The attitude was the same on Chepauk 1999 against Pakistan and last week as well. So unfair on Sachin; what else do you expect from a man.. 175 runs and more than half the team's total in less than 25 overs... Ponting's average increases by 10 when Australia win; however Sachin's has to increase by 40 if India should win; so unfair. All these is so clearly and beautifully presented in the book; its a must read for anyone commenting on Sachin; If Cricket is a Religion, Sachin is God ISBN-10: 8172238215 ISBN-13: 978-8172238216

  • omer_admani on November 8, 2009, 4:27 GMT

    Sachin is, by far, the greater one day player. Lara is, by far, the greater test match player. Ponting is better than Tendulkar in test matches, though.

  • Notout_Naveen on November 8, 2009, 4:20 GMT

    Sachin is always strong minded!. i remember selection committie chairman late Raj singh dungarpur defending the selectors saying 'Sachin never fails' when other selectors questioned his selection at very young age against such a strong pak bowling attack. Dungarpur was dead right! he understood Sachin's caliber , skill & mental strength too early. After more than 2 decades even now the selection committie has the same confidence in Sachin's ability which speaks the volume of Sachins comittment and in itself proves how strong minded he is! and 175 innings is just another innings for Sachin! When Sachin debuted Abdul kadir and many said he is a kid! recently Yuvraj termed him grand father! but Sachin has given all generation's compitators a run for thier money! all youngsters take a bow..this is Sachin Tendulkar and he is unstopable, unbreakable, invinsible, undeniable and always relaiable! cheers!!

  • dr_sachinfan_chennai on November 8, 2009, 4:00 GMT

    @ KS : Buddy u wondered wat SACHIN feels when he reads these. Well he is not gonna give a ear n reply & neither do we, Indians. Well it has been usual for those Aussies to comment on other team players n then once they are receiving end, speak out of admiration. And for them Tendulkar is always a thorn in flesh.

  • klassickc on November 8, 2009, 3:36 GMT

    Mr. Chappel for your statement "here he goes again. Tendulkar succeeds but India fails to claim victory. That's the difference between him and Lara." The difference appears to be that Lara had a ruthless streak when it came to winning the match, while for Tendulkar one more risk is never too many":

    ODIS Sachin has scored 45 centuries as of 11/7/2009.

    Total Win Loss n/a 45 32 12 1

    WIN Percentage 72% LOSS Percentage 28% Out of 32 Victories (in which Sachin made centuries) 19 Centruries were in 1st innings 13 were in 2nd innings Percentage of 1st innings centruries in which India won - 59% Percentage of 2nd innings centruries in which India won - 41% EST MATCHES Total Win Loss Draaw 42 16 9 17

    WIN Percentage 38% LOSS Percentage 21% DRAW Percentage 41%

    If you take out the number of draws from the above numbers, then WIN Percentage 64%

  • paramthegreat on November 8, 2009, 3:29 GMT

    Now , Now , what exactly is Mr chappelly trynna say?? Is he trying to create rifts between Tendulkar and the rest of the team? Well, good luck, aint gonna work, for the team members of India are not as narrow minded as you are. Secondly, Indian batting line up is dependent on Tendulkar heavily?? hmm....in case you dont remember, Mr Chappell, Dhoni won 2 games in this series itself along with Yuvi in one of them . On the other hand, to me , it looks like the Aussies are more heavily dependent on Watto rather than Ponting:p...Indian cricket tem has a whole bunch of youngsters and they always perform on a basis of 6/10 times. Sorry, Mr Chappell , Sachin took the 2008 CB finals on his own from Australia

    On a different note, finally pleasing to hear something good bout SRT from Chapell. And yes, Chappelly, Ponting hasnt won too many games @ all for Australia on his own . So dont even go close to saying that he is great or sumthing , even tho that might have been ur intention.Param

  • ks80 on November 8, 2009, 2:57 GMT

    It's nice to read something positive abt Tendulkar from Chappell. Not so long ago, he was aggressively going for Sachin's blood. He wrote that Sachin should ask "mirror mirror on the wall, should I retire?" and the answer will come back "yes". Sachin responded with dignified silence and of course a mountain of runs since then. I like Ian Chappell and this is not meant to be a typical Indian deriding Aussie comment. May be he was right in his own right to make those comments then. I wonder how Sachin feels when he reads this article.

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  • ks80 on November 8, 2009, 2:57 GMT

    It's nice to read something positive abt Tendulkar from Chappell. Not so long ago, he was aggressively going for Sachin's blood. He wrote that Sachin should ask "mirror mirror on the wall, should I retire?" and the answer will come back "yes". Sachin responded with dignified silence and of course a mountain of runs since then. I like Ian Chappell and this is not meant to be a typical Indian deriding Aussie comment. May be he was right in his own right to make those comments then. I wonder how Sachin feels when he reads this article.

  • paramthegreat on November 8, 2009, 3:29 GMT

    Now , Now , what exactly is Mr chappelly trynna say?? Is he trying to create rifts between Tendulkar and the rest of the team? Well, good luck, aint gonna work, for the team members of India are not as narrow minded as you are. Secondly, Indian batting line up is dependent on Tendulkar heavily?? hmm....in case you dont remember, Mr Chappell, Dhoni won 2 games in this series itself along with Yuvi in one of them . On the other hand, to me , it looks like the Aussies are more heavily dependent on Watto rather than Ponting:p...Indian cricket tem has a whole bunch of youngsters and they always perform on a basis of 6/10 times. Sorry, Mr Chappell , Sachin took the 2008 CB finals on his own from Australia

    On a different note, finally pleasing to hear something good bout SRT from Chapell. And yes, Chappelly, Ponting hasnt won too many games @ all for Australia on his own . So dont even go close to saying that he is great or sumthing , even tho that might have been ur intention.Param

  • klassickc on November 8, 2009, 3:36 GMT

    Mr. Chappel for your statement "here he goes again. Tendulkar succeeds but India fails to claim victory. That's the difference between him and Lara." The difference appears to be that Lara had a ruthless streak when it came to winning the match, while for Tendulkar one more risk is never too many":

    ODIS Sachin has scored 45 centuries as of 11/7/2009.

    Total Win Loss n/a 45 32 12 1

    WIN Percentage 72% LOSS Percentage 28% Out of 32 Victories (in which Sachin made centuries) 19 Centruries were in 1st innings 13 were in 2nd innings Percentage of 1st innings centruries in which India won - 59% Percentage of 2nd innings centruries in which India won - 41% EST MATCHES Total Win Loss Draaw 42 16 9 17

    WIN Percentage 38% LOSS Percentage 21% DRAW Percentage 41%

    If you take out the number of draws from the above numbers, then WIN Percentage 64%

  • dr_sachinfan_chennai on November 8, 2009, 4:00 GMT

    @ KS : Buddy u wondered wat SACHIN feels when he reads these. Well he is not gonna give a ear n reply & neither do we, Indians. Well it has been usual for those Aussies to comment on other team players n then once they are receiving end, speak out of admiration. And for them Tendulkar is always a thorn in flesh.

  • Notout_Naveen on November 8, 2009, 4:20 GMT

    Sachin is always strong minded!. i remember selection committie chairman late Raj singh dungarpur defending the selectors saying 'Sachin never fails' when other selectors questioned his selection at very young age against such a strong pak bowling attack. Dungarpur was dead right! he understood Sachin's caliber , skill & mental strength too early. After more than 2 decades even now the selection committie has the same confidence in Sachin's ability which speaks the volume of Sachins comittment and in itself proves how strong minded he is! and 175 innings is just another innings for Sachin! When Sachin debuted Abdul kadir and many said he is a kid! recently Yuvraj termed him grand father! but Sachin has given all generation's compitators a run for thier money! all youngsters take a bow..this is Sachin Tendulkar and he is unstopable, unbreakable, invinsible, undeniable and always relaiable! cheers!!

  • omer_admani on November 8, 2009, 4:27 GMT

    Sachin is, by far, the greater one day player. Lara is, by far, the greater test match player. Ponting is better than Tendulkar in test matches, though.

  • svasudevan on November 8, 2009, 5:07 GMT

    Jadeja and others just panicked as without Sachin they just couldn't believe in themselves, save Praveen. It is the mental block of the team and the thought that if someone has started a job, it is their sole responsibility to finish it off, especially if that someone is Sachin. The attitude was the same on Chepauk 1999 against Pakistan and last week as well. So unfair on Sachin; what else do you expect from a man.. 175 runs and more than half the team's total in less than 25 overs... Ponting's average increases by 10 when Australia win; however Sachin's has to increase by 40 if India should win; so unfair. All these is so clearly and beautifully presented in the book; its a must read for anyone commenting on Sachin; If Cricket is a Religion, Sachin is God ISBN-10: 8172238215 ISBN-13: 978-8172238216

  • Percy_Fender on November 8, 2009, 5:11 GMT

    Ian Chappell seems a chastened man after the avalanche of comments against him with reference to his last article in which he had suggested that Ponting was a greater batsman than Lara and Tendulkar. Perhaps he read through some of them and realised that Ponting has never had to play the quality of bowling as both Lara and Tendulkar have had to in their glorious careers. Probably he has realised that longevity is indeed an essential in assessing a batsman's standing in history. Sachin Tendulkar's innings in the Hyderabad ODI probably encapsuled his entire career. It had just about everything that any keen fan of his will have seen over the last nearly 2 decades.Glorious strokeplay,committment and even the tragic element which was the case in the Ranji final against Haryana many summers ago, or at Perth against the fury of Mcdermot's Australia or at Chennai, against Wasim and Saqlain in their pomp. It was just him and no-one else.That is a perhaps part of his greatness.

  • siddham2007 on November 8, 2009, 5:11 GMT

    I have one comment to make abt the players who play for India these days - that is, the mid level and junior players. This seems to be the worst and most unprofessional team India has fielded this decade. The Indian team reached its height under Ganguly-Wright. An Aussie side with McGrath Warne and Lee in full form would make mincemeat of this bunch

  • RaghuramanR on November 8, 2009, 5:12 GMT

    It is an indictment of the state of Indian cricket that we are Sachin-obsessed and fact remains that we still can depend only on Sachin. Sehwag, Yuvraj and Gambhirs are falling by the wayside. I think Sachin is single-minded as Gavaskar and nothing more can be expected from him. Maybe financial reasons is demanding support for Tendulkar from columnists but unless 2011 World Cup is won by India, fact is he will remain yet another holder of lot of records, but nothing MORE worthwhile for the team.