May 3, 2011

'When I came in there were too many comfort zones'

Mickey Arthur's first year in charge in Perth saw a lot of changes in personnel and attitudes. The Warriors' future now looks younger and brighter
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As he surveys Australian cricket with the benefit of a season in charge of Western Australia, the former South Africa coach Mickey Arthur's conclusions are not always the obvious ones.

His first impressions of Western Australia, upon replacing Tom Moody as the state coach, were famously withering, and have resulted in the first major squad upheaval at the WACA in years. But taking a wider view of the domestic game, Arthur is a little more optimistic than some. Establishment figures such as Ricky Ponting, James Sutherland and Tim Nielsen have all expressed the opinion that the Sheffield Shield is not what it was, and is losing relevance as a proving ground for aspiring Australian cricketers. Arthur, though, saw enough in his first season to suggest that any problems are not related to player talent, for he reckons there is more than enough on show to compare favourably with South Africa's domestic SuperSport Series.

The most troubling things Arthur saw were to do with pitches, not players. "I'm not of that opinion, to be honest with you, [that state cricket has declined]," Arthur said. "I've seen enough good young players around the country to know that Australian cricket is going to be very strong in the future. My issue is that some of the pitches that we played on weren't conducive to first-class or international standard. I think you need to be producing players to play at the next level in your states, and some of the pitches weren't conducive to that.

"We saw state games over in two or three days, which is not good enough, and the players are better than that. That had to do with pitch preparation and looking for results. I don't think that's the right way to go about it, because you also have the responsibility to produce players for Australia. But I think there are enough good players in Australian cricket for Australia to be a force going forward. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind. I don't think the state game is that bad at all."

Bad was a word Arthur would have been tempted to use upon making his first assessments of the Warriors, who have not won any domestic trophy since 2004 and have not lifted the Sheffield Shield since 1999. A talented but wayward generation has largely come and gone in that time, leaving the likes of Marcus North and Adam Voges as remnants. Meanwhile a younger group, led by Shaun Marsh and Luke Pomersbach, has also stagnated, either for reasons of injury or a lack of application.

"It's been a challenge down here in the West," said Arthur. "We've made some big changes, changes which were long overdue. We've modified our squad a little and got everything going in the right direction now hopefully.

"When I came in I thought there were too many comfort zones. I thought there was almost a culture of mediocrity, and I want the players training at international standards. That, for me, was key, and the intensity hadn't been high or wasn't high enough, and we certainly changed that. We definitely took the players out of their comfort zones. I think mediocrity had been accepted for far too long. The players were comfortable in that and that's never a good thing.

"They need to be secure in a structured environment, but always being pushed to deliver their best. So we certainly did that. We had the players training at an intensity that was of an international team, and they responded and bought into it very well. We've obviously had to make some tough decisions now towards the back end. We've let nine players go, I think, and that's right. We need to move on."

Arthur utilised his first year assessing the players they had. Sending away nine to 10 players was a big decision but he said he wouldn't have taken it if he hadn't thought there were enough younger players to replace them.

The youth Arthur speaks of was ushered into first-class ranks across 2010-11 as the team's results slowly improved. The cherubic teenaged batsman Marcus Harris caught the eye; Nathan Coulter-Nile showed plenty of bustle to the wicket when taking the new ball; Ryan Duffield offered a dependable swing-bowling option throughout the summer, after injuries gave him a headstart; and Mitchell Marsh, an undoubted talent, finally put it to worthwhile use with his maiden first-class century in the final Shield game of the season. Then there was the Victorian recruit, Michael Beer, whose left-arm spin was seen in Australian ranks at the SCG and may yet be utilised on tours to Sri Lanka and South Africa.

"Our future with our young players is very, very good. And these are all young West Australian boys," said Arthur. "They do need to have the experience around them to bring them through the tough times."

This is where North, Voges and a handful of recruits come into the equation. Arthur is searching for a few extra players to bolster his group, likely to include a tall fast bowler and perhaps a wicketkeeper batsman.

"I've identified skill sets that we need and roles that we need. We need guys who can fit those specific roles. And if we haven't got it in WA, I'm going to look outside the state for those players.

"Marcus and Adam were fantastic within the structure, and I think that every state definitely needs those players in their system because those are the guys who bring the young guys through. You can't have a team of total youngsters with no players to learn off. But similarly you can't get yourself into a position with a team that's just old, and we're going to lose three or four guys in one go, and have no succession plan."

Not long into his time in Perth, Arthur was approached by Cricket Australia about a possible consultancy role at the Centre of Excellence. Clearly his is an opinion to be valued.

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on May 6, 2011, 22:02 GMT

    throw away tim nielsen and get this bloke.....shud b good for the baggy green

  • Meety on May 5, 2011, 0:54 GMT

    @katandthat3 - I agree with what you said except S Marsh. I have big question marks over him, although I was happy that he had a good Shield summer. I think he will play tests in the not too distant future, but my gut feeling is he is still 2yrs away. That being said if anyone of Hughes/Katich/Khawaja/Watson fail consistantly, he is more ready then the next batch of youngsters just coming thru!

  • katandthat3 on May 4, 2011, 3:57 GMT

    Arthur is a great coach and think will come out in the mix for the Warriors next season. They've cut some deadwood and have exciting players like Harris, Beaton, Mitch Marsh and Duffield. Shaun Marsh has to play for Australia this season in all forms of cricket, it's a joke if he doesn't, he's ready now so lets not muck about. Hogan was a great with the ball and they really missed Knowles but hopefully they continue to develop some more local quicks. Hard over there as they compete with AFL for youngsters of a similar build. Don't get me started on drop in pitches either - RIP Adelaide Oval!

  • Meety on May 4, 2011, 2:31 GMT

    @Behind_the_bowlers_arm - 5yrs ago I thought S Marsh was the next big thing in Oz cricket, if anything I think he has gone backwards, (playing for Oz is on the back of less competition for spaces). I think he needs to have another big Shield summer before he makes the Test side. WA definately have 3 or 4 young players that could go onto Test duty in the not too distant future. @ jonesy2 - whilst I love the GABBA (not the 1st Ashes test though - it sucked), and the WACA, (not the one we lost to India on!), I am happy with differing charactoristics of pitches & really do like the SCG pitch. It has pace, bounce & takes turn. I think the Shield pitches need to be aimed at making games go deep into Day 4 - not Day 2!! M Marsh did get a mention in the article though & Beaton is a promising young batsmen. @Popcorn - I think the pitches are more about direction by State Administrators wanting "result" strips. Some first morning strips were almost indistinguishable from the lush outfield!!!

  • popcorn on May 4, 2011, 1:25 GMT

    I have ALWAYS felt Chris Rogers did not get the recognition he desrved. He was aOne Test wonder - more so because of poor umpiring than his batting.

    Pitches are a problem - drop-in pitches have runied the game - commercial interests of hosting AFL being the reason. Cricket Australia and the curators at the WACA,Gabba,Adelaide Oval, MCG ,SCG and the Bellerive Oval should take serious note of Mickey Arthur's wise comments.

  • Winsome on May 3, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    Great to see young West Australian quick bowlers leading the attack. Shaun Marsh is in some ways a wasted talent, he has been no less foolish than Luke Pomersbach in the past, hopefully his stupid days of boozing are behind him and he can live up to his talent.

    I hope they are more competitive next year, they deserve to be.

  • jonesy2 on May 3, 2011, 11:14 GMT

    also, im not sure why there is no mention of mitch marsh, michael hogan and tom beaton in the future category

  • jonesy2 on May 3, 2011, 11:06 GMT

    arthur is great. he is right in saying that aus cricket has more than enough young talent in domestic teams, as usual and of course aus are going to continue to be a force. i agree with the point about the pitches, im not sure whats going on there but this drop in pitch business is outrageous i mean they can thank that ridiculousness for the reason aus were humiliated on boxing day. all pitches just need to take the mould and properties of the waca and the gabba. manipulating pitches in anyway is madness.

  • Behind_the_bowlers_arm on May 3, 2011, 7:44 GMT

    As an exiled (in London) West Aussie ive watched in dismay as Western Australia have resembled a cosy rabble in need of the shake up that Mickey Arthur is hopefully giving them. One name not mentioned, Shaun Marsh, can hopefully now step up and challenge for the Test spot his talent says he is capable of. Have always agreed the raw talent is there but it needs to be brought on and it needs to be challenged to do things the right way. This policy of importing mediocre Eastern States pie-throwers has been a short term and ineffective nonsense. A lot of Australia's current Test problems are down to the gap between Shield & Test cricket widening and we saw in the Ashes the effect in several Tests where bowlers were non-plussed at having to try and get wickets on reasonable batting wickets. Arthur is right that Shield cricket needs to try and closely replicate the intensity and difficulty of Tests through better wickets and a greater availablilty of Test players for Shield games.

  • Andy500265 on May 3, 2011, 4:58 GMT

    I think whoever prepared the factfile needs to consider their sources, Chris Rogers plays for the Vics nowadays. Other than that, good article and I hope WA do well next season (though not as well as Queensland :D).

  • on May 6, 2011, 22:02 GMT

    throw away tim nielsen and get this bloke.....shud b good for the baggy green

  • Meety on May 5, 2011, 0:54 GMT

    @katandthat3 - I agree with what you said except S Marsh. I have big question marks over him, although I was happy that he had a good Shield summer. I think he will play tests in the not too distant future, but my gut feeling is he is still 2yrs away. That being said if anyone of Hughes/Katich/Khawaja/Watson fail consistantly, he is more ready then the next batch of youngsters just coming thru!

  • katandthat3 on May 4, 2011, 3:57 GMT

    Arthur is a great coach and think will come out in the mix for the Warriors next season. They've cut some deadwood and have exciting players like Harris, Beaton, Mitch Marsh and Duffield. Shaun Marsh has to play for Australia this season in all forms of cricket, it's a joke if he doesn't, he's ready now so lets not muck about. Hogan was a great with the ball and they really missed Knowles but hopefully they continue to develop some more local quicks. Hard over there as they compete with AFL for youngsters of a similar build. Don't get me started on drop in pitches either - RIP Adelaide Oval!

  • Meety on May 4, 2011, 2:31 GMT

    @Behind_the_bowlers_arm - 5yrs ago I thought S Marsh was the next big thing in Oz cricket, if anything I think he has gone backwards, (playing for Oz is on the back of less competition for spaces). I think he needs to have another big Shield summer before he makes the Test side. WA definately have 3 or 4 young players that could go onto Test duty in the not too distant future. @ jonesy2 - whilst I love the GABBA (not the 1st Ashes test though - it sucked), and the WACA, (not the one we lost to India on!), I am happy with differing charactoristics of pitches & really do like the SCG pitch. It has pace, bounce & takes turn. I think the Shield pitches need to be aimed at making games go deep into Day 4 - not Day 2!! M Marsh did get a mention in the article though & Beaton is a promising young batsmen. @Popcorn - I think the pitches are more about direction by State Administrators wanting "result" strips. Some first morning strips were almost indistinguishable from the lush outfield!!!

  • popcorn on May 4, 2011, 1:25 GMT

    I have ALWAYS felt Chris Rogers did not get the recognition he desrved. He was aOne Test wonder - more so because of poor umpiring than his batting.

    Pitches are a problem - drop-in pitches have runied the game - commercial interests of hosting AFL being the reason. Cricket Australia and the curators at the WACA,Gabba,Adelaide Oval, MCG ,SCG and the Bellerive Oval should take serious note of Mickey Arthur's wise comments.

  • Winsome on May 3, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    Great to see young West Australian quick bowlers leading the attack. Shaun Marsh is in some ways a wasted talent, he has been no less foolish than Luke Pomersbach in the past, hopefully his stupid days of boozing are behind him and he can live up to his talent.

    I hope they are more competitive next year, they deserve to be.

  • jonesy2 on May 3, 2011, 11:14 GMT

    also, im not sure why there is no mention of mitch marsh, michael hogan and tom beaton in the future category

  • jonesy2 on May 3, 2011, 11:06 GMT

    arthur is great. he is right in saying that aus cricket has more than enough young talent in domestic teams, as usual and of course aus are going to continue to be a force. i agree with the point about the pitches, im not sure whats going on there but this drop in pitch business is outrageous i mean they can thank that ridiculousness for the reason aus were humiliated on boxing day. all pitches just need to take the mould and properties of the waca and the gabba. manipulating pitches in anyway is madness.

  • Behind_the_bowlers_arm on May 3, 2011, 7:44 GMT

    As an exiled (in London) West Aussie ive watched in dismay as Western Australia have resembled a cosy rabble in need of the shake up that Mickey Arthur is hopefully giving them. One name not mentioned, Shaun Marsh, can hopefully now step up and challenge for the Test spot his talent says he is capable of. Have always agreed the raw talent is there but it needs to be brought on and it needs to be challenged to do things the right way. This policy of importing mediocre Eastern States pie-throwers has been a short term and ineffective nonsense. A lot of Australia's current Test problems are down to the gap between Shield & Test cricket widening and we saw in the Ashes the effect in several Tests where bowlers were non-plussed at having to try and get wickets on reasonable batting wickets. Arthur is right that Shield cricket needs to try and closely replicate the intensity and difficulty of Tests through better wickets and a greater availablilty of Test players for Shield games.

  • Andy500265 on May 3, 2011, 4:58 GMT

    I think whoever prepared the factfile needs to consider their sources, Chris Rogers plays for the Vics nowadays. Other than that, good article and I hope WA do well next season (though not as well as Queensland :D).

  • the_flying_squad on May 3, 2011, 4:42 GMT

    Umm, Chris Rogers plays for Victoria and has done so for a while now (as per the 'fact file'). Whilst you could argue he slipped through the WA 'crack', this was many years ago now.

  • Meety on May 3, 2011, 4:29 GMT

    Never been a great fan of foreign coaches in head positions in Oz cricket. I think Arthur has been a bit of a revelation in his role, proof will be in the pudding this coming season. Was impressed with Beaton too, & would love to see Pomersbach pull his finger out & get serious about playing for Oz. Also I think that Ronchi should be the T20 w/k for Oz.

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  • Meety on May 3, 2011, 4:29 GMT

    Never been a great fan of foreign coaches in head positions in Oz cricket. I think Arthur has been a bit of a revelation in his role, proof will be in the pudding this coming season. Was impressed with Beaton too, & would love to see Pomersbach pull his finger out & get serious about playing for Oz. Also I think that Ronchi should be the T20 w/k for Oz.

  • the_flying_squad on May 3, 2011, 4:42 GMT

    Umm, Chris Rogers plays for Victoria and has done so for a while now (as per the 'fact file'). Whilst you could argue he slipped through the WA 'crack', this was many years ago now.

  • Andy500265 on May 3, 2011, 4:58 GMT

    I think whoever prepared the factfile needs to consider their sources, Chris Rogers plays for the Vics nowadays. Other than that, good article and I hope WA do well next season (though not as well as Queensland :D).

  • Behind_the_bowlers_arm on May 3, 2011, 7:44 GMT

    As an exiled (in London) West Aussie ive watched in dismay as Western Australia have resembled a cosy rabble in need of the shake up that Mickey Arthur is hopefully giving them. One name not mentioned, Shaun Marsh, can hopefully now step up and challenge for the Test spot his talent says he is capable of. Have always agreed the raw talent is there but it needs to be brought on and it needs to be challenged to do things the right way. This policy of importing mediocre Eastern States pie-throwers has been a short term and ineffective nonsense. A lot of Australia's current Test problems are down to the gap between Shield & Test cricket widening and we saw in the Ashes the effect in several Tests where bowlers were non-plussed at having to try and get wickets on reasonable batting wickets. Arthur is right that Shield cricket needs to try and closely replicate the intensity and difficulty of Tests through better wickets and a greater availablilty of Test players for Shield games.

  • jonesy2 on May 3, 2011, 11:06 GMT

    arthur is great. he is right in saying that aus cricket has more than enough young talent in domestic teams, as usual and of course aus are going to continue to be a force. i agree with the point about the pitches, im not sure whats going on there but this drop in pitch business is outrageous i mean they can thank that ridiculousness for the reason aus were humiliated on boxing day. all pitches just need to take the mould and properties of the waca and the gabba. manipulating pitches in anyway is madness.

  • jonesy2 on May 3, 2011, 11:14 GMT

    also, im not sure why there is no mention of mitch marsh, michael hogan and tom beaton in the future category

  • Winsome on May 3, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    Great to see young West Australian quick bowlers leading the attack. Shaun Marsh is in some ways a wasted talent, he has been no less foolish than Luke Pomersbach in the past, hopefully his stupid days of boozing are behind him and he can live up to his talent.

    I hope they are more competitive next year, they deserve to be.

  • popcorn on May 4, 2011, 1:25 GMT

    I have ALWAYS felt Chris Rogers did not get the recognition he desrved. He was aOne Test wonder - more so because of poor umpiring than his batting.

    Pitches are a problem - drop-in pitches have runied the game - commercial interests of hosting AFL being the reason. Cricket Australia and the curators at the WACA,Gabba,Adelaide Oval, MCG ,SCG and the Bellerive Oval should take serious note of Mickey Arthur's wise comments.

  • Meety on May 4, 2011, 2:31 GMT

    @Behind_the_bowlers_arm - 5yrs ago I thought S Marsh was the next big thing in Oz cricket, if anything I think he has gone backwards, (playing for Oz is on the back of less competition for spaces). I think he needs to have another big Shield summer before he makes the Test side. WA definately have 3 or 4 young players that could go onto Test duty in the not too distant future. @ jonesy2 - whilst I love the GABBA (not the 1st Ashes test though - it sucked), and the WACA, (not the one we lost to India on!), I am happy with differing charactoristics of pitches & really do like the SCG pitch. It has pace, bounce & takes turn. I think the Shield pitches need to be aimed at making games go deep into Day 4 - not Day 2!! M Marsh did get a mention in the article though & Beaton is a promising young batsmen. @Popcorn - I think the pitches are more about direction by State Administrators wanting "result" strips. Some first morning strips were almost indistinguishable from the lush outfield!!!

  • katandthat3 on May 4, 2011, 3:57 GMT

    Arthur is a great coach and think will come out in the mix for the Warriors next season. They've cut some deadwood and have exciting players like Harris, Beaton, Mitch Marsh and Duffield. Shaun Marsh has to play for Australia this season in all forms of cricket, it's a joke if he doesn't, he's ready now so lets not muck about. Hogan was a great with the ball and they really missed Knowles but hopefully they continue to develop some more local quicks. Hard over there as they compete with AFL for youngsters of a similar build. Don't get me started on drop in pitches either - RIP Adelaide Oval!