January 17, 2012

India must keep the hurt alive

All too conveniently, humiliations overseas are allowed to fade. The BCCI needs to make sure that doesn't happen this time
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So N Srinivasan has denied he boasted about India's ODI series win at home being some sort of revenge for the Test whitewash in England. Which is good to hear. It might, after all, be a sign that the reaction this time might not be similar to that after India's last whitewash, in England. At the BCCI awards function late last year, when some of the senior players were in Australia to prepare for the tour, the debacle in England wasn't even mentioned. The general refrain was: "We won the World Cup, we beat West Indies at home, what a great year." It was like the series in England had never happened.

India must not move on from Australia so easily. The BCCI must not move on so easily. It should not be as simple as this: former players criticise, editors write editorials, an effigy or three is burnt, the IPL comes along, a home series is won, and everything is forgotten.

The BCCI needs to look into why India lost so badly. Were they old, tired, unmotivated, not good enough? Or has the team become soft with the rise of new opportunities outside Test cricket? The board needs to look at the coach's role, and the captain's.

India got their No. 1 ranking because they didn't forget defeats away from home in the '90s. Those rankled for months. India earned respect in the Test world because they started winning away from home. It took a decade's hard work from Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid, VVS Laxman, Anil Kumble, Sourav Ganguly, Zaheer Khan, Virender Sehwag, and other players who played smaller walk-on parts.

They did well precisely because they didn't go about telling other players - like Virat Kohli and Ishant Sharma are known to have done - that they will see about averages when they are playing at home. And they did do well - let's not write that off, as has been the temptation after these two poor series in England and Australia. At one point during their reign as No. 1, India had won their last series in England, New Zealand and the West Indies, and drawn their last ones in South Africa and Sri Lanka. The No. 1 ranking was definitely deserved - if not in the way dominating teams do, in a fighting, better-than-the-rest-at-the-time way. It was a lifetime's work, accumulated painstakingly and against the odds.

Now that those players will be gone soon - and most of them have disappointed in their last two series (themselves more than anybody else) - their good work is going to be eroded. The biggest worry, however, for Indian cricket is to make sure these away defeats matter enough to the new India.

They obviously hurt, but how much and for how long? To deduce that lack of interest is the general attitude would be to read too much into a quick retort to a sledge, but if you add to it the BCCI's blasé ways last year, it becomes a disturbing trend. When India were losing in Sydney, the BCCI was busy sending out the schedule for the IPL.

Back in the day, when you lost overseas, you spent months hurting, waiting for your next chance. Today an away defeat seamlessly merges into a home series, which seamlessly merges into the IPL. It is possible for these defeats, then, to not matter that much. This is not to claim they don't - the new generation should be innocent until proven guilty - but in theory does it seem really important for a young India cricketer now to win Tests abroad? The board, the leaders of the game, has to make sure it is.

Home Test wins are not to be scoffed at. Playing spin and reverse swing ought to be as big a test of a batsman's skills as playing pace, bounce, normal swing and seam. Australia, though, didn't win in India by thinking they would see how well India did in Australia. South Africa don't do well in India by thinking they will prepare green tracks for when India visit.

India haven't lost a home series since Australia conquered the "final frontier" in 2004-05. Since April 2005 only South Africa have been able to beat them in Tests at home. It is a proud record, but it doesn't make up for the last seven defeats away. For two years now, India won't be able to make up for it either. They play at home until December 2013. The leadership of the team has to make sure they are hurting from these defeats by the time they start that journey.

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • krishnak007 on January 20, 2012, 16:00 GMT

    I can't believe the BCCI is not only in a state of denial that we are being thrashed, but on the contrary saying that this is bad luck!!! I am of the view that Laxman needs to go and that Dravid should hang his boots with the same grace that he does most things on and off the field - but Srinivasan, Srikkanth and all our honorary members of the boards need to be sacked too.

  • Percy_Fender on January 20, 2012, 10:35 GMT

    India have had some of the finest backfoot players in the past. That was because of them having played on matting wickets those days when turf wickets were very few. As a result, batsman earned their wings playing on matting most of the time. They had a lot of bounce. So we had the Merchants,the Mushtaq Alis, the Hazares the Mankads and the Manjrekars, not to mention theGavaskars the Bordes the Durranis and the Hanumants. It might be considered blasphemous to even suggest now that we should play all the domestic league matches on matting wickets considering how much money the BCCI has. But considering how lethargic the BCCI has been in regard to creating bouncy turf wickets, I feel till that happens, matting wickets should be the norm By judiciously using matting wickets, India could create a generation of good back foot players who also have an excellent defensive technique. That is how it used to those days. India produced greats who went largely unsung.

  • Bollo on January 19, 2012, 15:14 GMT

    `Team India` ? - what is this, if not a rip-off of the arrogance personified of a US basketball team? No Australian cricket team would have dared perform as abjectly as this team has in losing 4-0 to England, and 3-0 (and counting) to Australia. A loss is acceptable - consistent meek capitulation inexcusable. As for the `wait till you play us in India` barbs - they should be embarrassed to show their faces at home.

    Forgive the schadenfreude, but the (shortlived) `we are No.1` tirades took a toll.

  • gestapo on January 19, 2012, 3:00 GMT

    india is bad ,may be worse which is making aus look TOO good at the moment.

  • on January 19, 2012, 1:46 GMT

    What about this? Consider test cricket as a separate sport altogether. Those who play t20 and odi should not play test cricket. What about board of cricket control for test cricket.

  • Ahmedi1 on January 19, 2012, 0:31 GMT

    Having been a fan of Cricket all my life, i don't mind guys making money but my sincere feeling now is that our players are too much into money and this ILP is hurting and it is the truth. These guys are not worried about being out of the money trail as they still hold a far too much hold in our brains we should be able to judge all fairly and if they are not upto it then move on and lets find fresh blood. The whole body lauguage of the players is shamefull to say the least, they are not bothered the way Fans are BCCI is just become a Money making Company and if we can dare to read impartial writers you will see what they really think about BCCI.

  • on January 18, 2012, 22:25 GMT

    There is only ONE way to keep the hurt alive - performance based remuneration. Given that all the players in professional era understand the language of money, if you win abroad - you get greater financial incentive, if you lose .. less financial incentive. Equate the base salary, so no player feels more important than others, and incentives to the ones who perform. Have the away going matches on a higher incentive scale. Run it like a corporate house, generate some accountability, and results would come. I know it's a fantastical concept, but money talks. Just like Sehwag should've got an extra incentive for 219 in a home ODI, he must lose some money for consistently failing in tests against AUS. Similarly Ishant should've gained more than others for being man of the series in WI, and lost enough for his current series. When they know they are set to earn enough from adverts and tours, plus the IPL, why would they care?

  • zico123 on January 18, 2012, 22:11 GMT

    until there is more incentive to play Test cricket than ODis, T20s , IPLs, it is difficult to see India doing well in Test cricket, we won't see youngstars eager to play test cricket, they can make their life out of T20 and stupid IPL, BCCI have to pay bigger salary to Test cricketers than ODI salary or IPL salary package

  • zico123 on January 18, 2012, 22:07 GMT

    long debate of who is India's best captain ever - Dhoni or Sourav, everyone seemed to accept including me that it is Dhoni after he lifted the worldcup, but after 7 consecutive embassing humiliating overseas test defeat, Dhoni doesn't deserve the tag of best Indian captain ever, so the honour goes back to Sourav.

  • zico123 on January 18, 2012, 22:03 GMT

    i had huge huge anticipation when Ind-Eng series started in Eng, India disappointed very badly, but atleast there was some sort of excuse, lot of injury concerns and all, but this time in Australia there was no such excuse, so again i had high expectation from India, only to see India getting humiliated, embarassing defaeted, such a shame!!! and BCCI don't care, they are busy scheduling stupid IPL!!

  • krishnak007 on January 20, 2012, 16:00 GMT

    I can't believe the BCCI is not only in a state of denial that we are being thrashed, but on the contrary saying that this is bad luck!!! I am of the view that Laxman needs to go and that Dravid should hang his boots with the same grace that he does most things on and off the field - but Srinivasan, Srikkanth and all our honorary members of the boards need to be sacked too.

  • Percy_Fender on January 20, 2012, 10:35 GMT

    India have had some of the finest backfoot players in the past. That was because of them having played on matting wickets those days when turf wickets were very few. As a result, batsman earned their wings playing on matting most of the time. They had a lot of bounce. So we had the Merchants,the Mushtaq Alis, the Hazares the Mankads and the Manjrekars, not to mention theGavaskars the Bordes the Durranis and the Hanumants. It might be considered blasphemous to even suggest now that we should play all the domestic league matches on matting wickets considering how much money the BCCI has. But considering how lethargic the BCCI has been in regard to creating bouncy turf wickets, I feel till that happens, matting wickets should be the norm By judiciously using matting wickets, India could create a generation of good back foot players who also have an excellent defensive technique. That is how it used to those days. India produced greats who went largely unsung.

  • Bollo on January 19, 2012, 15:14 GMT

    `Team India` ? - what is this, if not a rip-off of the arrogance personified of a US basketball team? No Australian cricket team would have dared perform as abjectly as this team has in losing 4-0 to England, and 3-0 (and counting) to Australia. A loss is acceptable - consistent meek capitulation inexcusable. As for the `wait till you play us in India` barbs - they should be embarrassed to show their faces at home.

    Forgive the schadenfreude, but the (shortlived) `we are No.1` tirades took a toll.

  • gestapo on January 19, 2012, 3:00 GMT

    india is bad ,may be worse which is making aus look TOO good at the moment.

  • on January 19, 2012, 1:46 GMT

    What about this? Consider test cricket as a separate sport altogether. Those who play t20 and odi should not play test cricket. What about board of cricket control for test cricket.

  • Ahmedi1 on January 19, 2012, 0:31 GMT

    Having been a fan of Cricket all my life, i don't mind guys making money but my sincere feeling now is that our players are too much into money and this ILP is hurting and it is the truth. These guys are not worried about being out of the money trail as they still hold a far too much hold in our brains we should be able to judge all fairly and if they are not upto it then move on and lets find fresh blood. The whole body lauguage of the players is shamefull to say the least, they are not bothered the way Fans are BCCI is just become a Money making Company and if we can dare to read impartial writers you will see what they really think about BCCI.

  • on January 18, 2012, 22:25 GMT

    There is only ONE way to keep the hurt alive - performance based remuneration. Given that all the players in professional era understand the language of money, if you win abroad - you get greater financial incentive, if you lose .. less financial incentive. Equate the base salary, so no player feels more important than others, and incentives to the ones who perform. Have the away going matches on a higher incentive scale. Run it like a corporate house, generate some accountability, and results would come. I know it's a fantastical concept, but money talks. Just like Sehwag should've got an extra incentive for 219 in a home ODI, he must lose some money for consistently failing in tests against AUS. Similarly Ishant should've gained more than others for being man of the series in WI, and lost enough for his current series. When they know they are set to earn enough from adverts and tours, plus the IPL, why would they care?

  • zico123 on January 18, 2012, 22:11 GMT

    until there is more incentive to play Test cricket than ODis, T20s , IPLs, it is difficult to see India doing well in Test cricket, we won't see youngstars eager to play test cricket, they can make their life out of T20 and stupid IPL, BCCI have to pay bigger salary to Test cricketers than ODI salary or IPL salary package

  • zico123 on January 18, 2012, 22:07 GMT

    long debate of who is India's best captain ever - Dhoni or Sourav, everyone seemed to accept including me that it is Dhoni after he lifted the worldcup, but after 7 consecutive embassing humiliating overseas test defeat, Dhoni doesn't deserve the tag of best Indian captain ever, so the honour goes back to Sourav.

  • zico123 on January 18, 2012, 22:03 GMT

    i had huge huge anticipation when Ind-Eng series started in Eng, India disappointed very badly, but atleast there was some sort of excuse, lot of injury concerns and all, but this time in Australia there was no such excuse, so again i had high expectation from India, only to see India getting humiliated, embarassing defaeted, such a shame!!! and BCCI don't care, they are busy scheduling stupid IPL!!

  • DingDong420 on January 18, 2012, 21:48 GMT

    Laxman needs to go frist, followed by Dravid and then Tendulkar. this needs to be done within a year.

    BUT BCCI need to start sending their players to England / South Africa / New Zealand / Australia to play in there domestic competitions.

    This is the only way both batsmen and bowlers will learn. Indian players of old went to England to hone their skills.

    The best foreign batsmen / bowlers come to India every year for IPL we will soon start to lose home advantage

  • Nampally on January 18, 2012, 20:59 GMT

    BCCI have enough profits to set up an indoor facility in India where they can simulate the Australian or England type of pitches for Indian batsmen to practice and get used to conditioins in those 2 countries. That should be the first step in combating the shameful 4-0 whitewash experienced by India. Secondly they need to push for young fast bowlers who can bowl accurately on or outside the off stump at consistent length. This can be done in a cricket camp for the bowlers - slow & fast. 2 camps set up in say Chennai & Mumbai or Delhi should help the cricketers from North & South.This is one way of implementing the lessons learnt from 2 humiliations during past 12 months. India was just not prepared to play under these conditions. One months training under the simulated conditons prior to touring for the entire team should greatly help in avoiding the unpreparedness. This is food for thought both to BCCI & Selectors to ponder.It is better than the " blame game" as often happens.

  • krishna_cricketfan on January 18, 2012, 20:51 GMT

    @@Sameer Abbasi: We are shocked because of the whitewash and the manner India is playing. Losing 0-1 is different from 0-4. Even with the mighty WI in WI 1982/83 we lost 0-2 in 5 test series. Looking at last 20 yrs in particular Excepting for 0-4 in 1991 and 0-3 in 1999 both coming against Aussies, India were not thrashed in complete series, match after match. Yes, it is a fact age has caught with the legends and BCCI was sleeping even after Eng loss. That cannot be an excuse when playing.

  • nsmargasahayamsn on January 18, 2012, 20:30 GMT

    If Team India needs to turn the corner - there is no room for sentiments and or empathy- Look in the mirror and be a professional- This is what all BCCI, Team India and the Selectors need to do - [a] Admit the weakness and call a spade a spade - Retire if you cannot perform. [b] Selectors have to acknowledge thay have not realised nor worked to the plans laid out in 2007 to develop a new set of players to replace and carry Team India forward - Look at England and Australia - both laid out plans and executed with a team in transition from the Chappell era to Ponting to Clarke - the transition was painful but the professional can take it. [c] For all the posturing and monies earned SRT included - they can talk and act on Indian flat tracks - but on travel in foreign countries they have demonstrated lack of backing the talk with action - keep your mouth shut and execute -if you cannot give opportunities to youngsters by volunteering or requesting rest! [d Be Professional and play

  • Vilander on January 18, 2012, 20:29 GMT

    As a geneuin fan of cricket, i have started disliking this indian team for their feeble attempts, their mental weakness, vulnerability in adapting to change, lack of courage, lack of pride. Sport allegiances may be made for nationalistic fervor but are retained because of pride and honour. Cricket should decline in India.

  • Nampally on January 18, 2012, 19:03 GMT

    Siddarth: It is a cultural deficiency in India that the negative aspects are ignored by the administration. So your plea for keeping the Hurt Alive from the losses in Australia willfaqil- like that in England. This makes the Selectors & BCCI look infintely better than they are.The recent statements by the Indian players have been shocking to read. Dhoni stated that "I am the main culprit". Gambhir followed it up by owning that "The Indian batting played irresponsibly". Srikant stated several time the this is "the Best side". Now if Indians batted irresponsibly, does it justify the selection of these 6 guys? No. Instead they should be focussed on reviewing their mistakes in batting & correcting them. If Dhoni was the culprit where did he fail? Try & correct that NOT repeat the same. Owning your errors does not excuse you unless you rectify them. The same applies to our defeats. Find out causes & implement corrective actions instead of brushing it! You learn by correcting your mistakes.

  • on January 18, 2012, 17:55 GMT

    India will always be rubbish overseas while they still use those useless, boring pitches. Import some decent soil if it must, but juice up the pitches. Those boring roads India have as pitches distort the real ability of their batsmen and ruin their pace bowlers. Plus tactics are predictable. win the toss. Lose the toss and a team cant really win, just try to draw. No wonder Dhoni can't captain, boring tracks mean captains use boring tactics and don't use their imagination when setting fields.

  • opinion101 on January 18, 2012, 17:52 GMT

    Don't blame the players for loosing the away series, blame it on BCCI who is treating these players as money printing machines. BCCI has overkilled the cricket by playing useless series against SL,WI and introducing IPL. Players knw that even if they dnt perform in the test/odi they still have IPL contracts. This is the sole reason why they lack the fighting spirit. Back in the days, players used to earn their position in Indian team via Ranji and playing county cricket. Sachin, Dravid, Ganguly etc have all played the county cricket and adapted to the seaming conditions.. My 2 cents for BCCI: emphasize youngsters (virat, raina, ishant etc) to play county cricket, reduce the number of games in a year, please don't let sehwag open in seaming conditions and for god sake stop playing SL five times a year. Remember your next world cup is in Australia not in sub contininent.

  • veetee2011 on January 18, 2012, 17:33 GMT

    I would say create 3 different teams for t20, ,odi and test. Let players focus on their game batsman or bowler. You will have 33 best players instead of 3 or 4. Once India starts winning in each format, BCCI can market all players and make more money as well. For IPL, use t20 domestic and foreign players. The same three team formula should apply to domestic teams too.

  • Leggie on January 18, 2012, 16:19 GMT

    SUPERB. What a fine article Sidharth. As you rightly mentioned, the people for whom this should hurt the most are the likes of Sachin, Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag and Zaheer. Their consistent overseas performances made India reach the number 1 spot. The last frontier for them really was defeating Australia in Australia - but possibly the dreaded age has caught up with them. The real pity though is that this will soon be forgotten with IPL4 taking centrestage next month and no concrete steps would have been taken to rebuild some of the fundamentals..

  • kanjithem on January 18, 2012, 10:32 GMT

    BCCI President Srinivasan is reported to have said that they will prepare turning pitches and win when Australia goes there. I will assume that this is a true report. If it is, then he is forgetting one thing. And that is the fact that while India keeps getting anihilated on grassy, seaming conditions, the other teams are slowly but surely playing better on turning pitches. There may be several reasons for this - that the opposition spinners are becoming as good; that Indian spinners are not as good as they once were; or, opposition batsmen are getting better at playing spinners. And, if this trend continues, India will keep getting thrashed, whatever the pitch condition may be.

  • rana19451 on January 18, 2012, 9:54 GMT

    I am 60 and have been following Indian cricket closely since I was 12-15 . Certain things just do not change in Indian cricket . If at all they do , they get worse . It is naive to expect that BCCI will now suddenly change its ways and make determined efforts to improve things . BCCI has always been a super ground for politics but at least some of the bosses knew their cricket and , for all their faults , genuinely loved the game . One cannot say the same for the present bosses . Whatever was left to be done has been taken care of by the IPL . As one friend points out , we may not again see the likes of Sachin and Dravid in the post IPL age .IPL cannot stop , non-stop cricket cannot stop , money cannot be prevented from calling the shots ,we cannot do anything about the men who run Indian cricket . It is only the love people like us shower on the game that makes the game go on . It is unlikely that it will take very long to follow the historical course laid by Indian hockey

  • cricconnossieur on January 18, 2012, 8:59 GMT

    "die-Hard" fans have also been lead up the garden path by the hysteria surrounding the loss against Eng and Aus. Please remember NO team had acquitted themselves creditably against sustained hostile fast bowling in favorable conditions in the history of cricket.Lately, Aus and SA also crumbled to sub-100 totals , thankfully India is yet to do that. Fast bowlers, two or three in cohesion is hurting India. Please see through the hype and hoopla and dont panic. We need good fast bowlers at both ends to administer the same medicine to the opposition like the SAs do.

  • anandana on January 18, 2012, 5:53 GMT

    nothing should be forgotten - the fans are hurt and at the end of the day, the collective power of the fans is the factor filling up BCCIs coffers. All three (Sachin, Dravid & Laks) should go - trust me, this is coming from a die hard fan of them. Everyone is waiting for Sachin to score the 100th 100 - it is a bit too much. Viru, Dhoni and Gambhir should also go and play county cricket. The warning signs were already there when West Indies stretched us on home pitches. Hopefully there is an uptick right around the corner for the Indian fan

  • Mr_Anonymous on January 18, 2012, 2:50 GMT

    Here are the basic issues from the Indian perspective: 1. Team has scored 400+ runs (exactly) only once in 6 innings. 2. Team has been able to play out 100+ overs only once in 6 innings. 3. Not a single century has been scored by any Indian yet. 4. Only 1 5 wicket haul in 3 Tests. 5. Bowling average number of runs conceded per wicket is double (or more) than Australian side. 6. Team selection could be better. Not sure why Vinay Kumar got selected in last test. Ojha deserves a chance as he can be more accurate and the Australians will force their pace against him which may create chances (depends on how well he bowls in the test but the potential is there). Wish Rohit would get a chance but it remains unclear who would be dropped to make room. VVS would seem a likely choice but its still a tough decision. Also, it would be unfair to assume that with Rohit making his debut our batting problems would be resolved as that is a collective failure of top 7 so far.

  • Mr_Anonymous on January 18, 2012, 2:35 GMT

    I think I agree with the sentiment of this article. I also think that a victory in a test match away from home (for any country) should count for roughly twice the achievement of winning at home and if you have managed to win a series abroad, then it should count as doubly important than winning a series at home. However, personally I am not as dejected at India losing 3-0 (or potentially 4-0) as I am in the manner in which they have lost. I remember when Australia came to India in 2010 and lost 2-0, in the first test, they fought till the last moment and eventually India won by 1 wicket. The fact that we could not even last half the test match time in Perth is extremely disappointing and the 2 innings' victories show that we can't even compete (forget about winning). That is more sad to see. I think when India toured last time in 2008, we did not lose by an innings and even won at Perth and basically showed some fight. This time the tame manner of loss is cause for concern.

  • TRAM on January 18, 2012, 0:27 GMT

    Sidharth, Excuse me, who is hurt please? I dont think any one other than the real fans, are hurt. "Keeping the hurt alive" is meaningless if it is addressed to BCCI / selectors / players / sponsors / franchisers, since none of them are hurt. They all got their pocket filled, their 5-start hotel times spent, world tours enjoyed, etc etc. It is the fans that should "keep the hurt alive" and if they do, they will not enjoy the home matches any more. And THAT will hurt BCCI/sponsors etc.

  • TamilIndian on January 17, 2012, 23:59 GMT

    In a dream world - I would make anyone interested in playing tests for the country to be automatically not eligible for T20 (including IPL) - This will drive out lot of pretenders from the purest form and only folks really care for tests will be there.

  • Arpra on January 17, 2012, 22:04 GMT

    Trusted Siddharth to bring some balance to the 'aaj ka Mujrim kaun' (Who is the culprit today) rhetoric that seems to pervade the media today. Thanks for pointing out that pretty much the same team was more than competitive in the decade gone by in England, SA and Australia. And as was pointed out during that time, no other team apart from the all time great Australian side winning matches outside their own country except India. Though we should not live in the past and urgent corrective action is needed and all that, let us not scoff at what has been the best decade for Indian cricket ever. And lets not throw muck at the golden generation because they lost 2 series in a row. We may very well not see the likes of them again in the post IPL age.

  • on January 17, 2012, 21:19 GMT

    Everyone is acting surprized as if India usually never loses series or test matches in England or Australia.. It always happens.. All they can remember and cant stop bragging about is their win in the last series against Australia in Australia.. One Win.. come on.. India has always beaten teams at home and lost abroad so why is every one so shocked??

  • on January 17, 2012, 20:17 GMT

    A real good article, but this will fall into deaf ears of BCCI and its members.

  • Buggsy on January 17, 2012, 20:07 GMT

    I'm sorry to say it will be forgotten. BCCI has already shrugged it off, not that it seemed to concern them to begin with. The problem is that most of the people involved in these defeats in England and Australia probably won't be playing for India next time they tour abroad.

  • moBlue on January 17, 2012, 19:22 GMT

    bcci should put in a huge financial incentive for the IND team to win test series in SA, AUS and ENG. then let us see what we get! i don't care if the cricketers make extra money, i want to see them beat AUS, SA and ENG in an away series!

  • S.Jagernath on January 17, 2012, 19:05 GMT

    If India are content with just winning at home in test cricket,then they should forget about competing at all & just play the IPL all year.The BCCI is definitely not interested in test cricket anymore.M.S Dhoni's poor captaincy & wicketkeeping needs to be reviewed,Wriddhiman Saha is far too good to not be playing test cricket.Virender Sehwag & Gautam Gambhir are both technically flawed,India seriously believed that they are truly the best batting line-up but they are not.They are brilliant in the sub-continent,but it has just been Rahul Dravid & Sachin Tendulkar that have been excellent all over the world.If the BCCI cared about the future of Indian cricket,atleast one of Ajinkya Rahane,Cheteshwar Pujara,Rohit Sharma or Virat Kohli would have played a season of County Cricket by now.The young bowlers like Dhawal Kulkarni,Umesh Yadav,Varun Aaron & Ishant Sharma have the ability but seriously need coaching at an English County.

  • stormy16 on January 17, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    I think the reality is India's away record was poor at best for a very long time untill the recent success with a quality team including Sachin and co at their peak. The batting was second to none and the bowling had variety and quaility. You cannot remain at the top unless these levels are maintained and there is depth on the bench. India has had neither and its time to accept reality and move on rebuilding for the future. Blaming the IPL and young and old players is not the way to go.

  • jrben on January 17, 2012, 17:26 GMT

    They must be no escape this time. BCCI, players and coaches must hurt from Ind fans' kolariveri until something good comes out of this humiliation. The board must not be allowed to maintain the status quo. In the space of 6 months IND has gone from being no 1 test side to laughing stock.There needs to be a committee (like AUS and ENG had after their losses against eachother in 2007 and 2011) to look into all aspects of the IND cricket -first class structure, overseas tour planning, coaching methods, selection policies, injury management, replacement planning, the impact of IPL and meaningless ODIs tournerments on test cricket..... Hopefully something good will come out after the implementation of the recommendations from the committee.

  • VickGower on January 17, 2012, 16:58 GMT

    One of my biggest concerns: India might draw or win in Adelaide. Now, that would be a disaster for Indian cricket.

  • mishim on January 17, 2012, 16:47 GMT

    You make excellent points. However, unfortunately the brains are in the media rather than among the administrators. What we need is the likes of insightful pundits like Ravi Shastri, Sunil Gavaskar, Kapil Dev, Manider Singh, Saurav Ganguly, etc to be running Indian cricket rather than Mr Srinivasan, etc!

  • bobmartin on January 17, 2012, 16:31 GMT

    This article hits the nail squarely on the head. Unless the senior players who have failed dismally in the last two away series hold their hands up and retire gracefully, the BCCI and the fans will quickly forget these humiliating defeats. A couple of ODI victories especially if it includes SRT's hundredth 100, plus the IPL razzmattazz and it will all be forgotten, just as it was after the England debacle.

  • on January 17, 2012, 16:23 GMT

    All very true. Everyone now has taken up to saying "IPL shouldn't be blamed for everything" it has severely affected the players in a way no one's looking at it. Sachin, Rahul, Laxman became good overseas players because of the time they spent in County Cricket getting used to all conditions. If you forgot that, you have an example of Zaheer. How can all these signs be ignored, only God knows! I take this as an opportunity to tell you Sid; you are my favourite writer on cricinfo..! Cheers!!

  • on January 17, 2012, 15:38 GMT

    Can't believe people are yet to comment on this wonderful article. Well articulated, Sid Monga!

  • correctcall on January 17, 2012, 14:55 GMT

    Perhaps Mr Srinivasan may care to use his undoubted clout in worldwide cricket circles to suggest that ICC rankings of both teams and players need to be adjusted to place a 50% premium in awarded points to AWAY performances? Such a change could have an interesting impact on the Future Tours Program. I am sure he would see great merit in the suggestion!!??

  • on January 17, 2012, 14:52 GMT

    I agree. Also when the home series starts it is time to blood a Pujara, Ajinkya, Kohli and Rahul...to see if they have in them....it is not time for a Sehwag to capture form knowing well he is a dud abroad and will be older and outdated by the time 2013 comes around....

  • TwitterJitter on January 17, 2012, 13:38 GMT

    So the likes of Dravid, Tendulkar, Laxman, and Sehwag flop and the blame conveniently falls on youngsters. I would like to know who those young batsmen in the team were who failed in Australia? Kohli was the only young batsman given a chance in these 3 tests and at Perth he performed better than all his senior counterparts. As for bad effects of IPL that these ex-cricketers rant about; Are they suggesting that Dravid, Laxman, Tendulkar and Sehwag flopped because of IPL? That is a joke as the former two are only marginal players in IPL. Ishant is another flop who needs to be permanently dropped from the side until he can show in first class cricket that he is capable of taking wickets. He never takes more than a wicket or two in an innings and he has no variations in his bowling. Only Umesh Yadav is decent of this lot. They need to look for more young pace bowlers in Ranji circuit. BTW, it is time to drop Dravid, Laxman, and Sehwag from tests. Give Pujara, Tiwary and Rahane a chance.

  • 70sfan on January 17, 2012, 13:37 GMT

    after watching the series down under, it amazes me that bastsmen couldnt bat out sessions. obviously these are legends and thier technique cant be at fault - as they say class is permanent. so it appears that the only lacuna is execution and application for extended periods of time (like leaving balls that should be left) under given conditions. Phrased this way one can immedietly blama the shorter version. But I think a more professional approach needs to be taken by the staff in preparation - including mental conditioning, more active role buy batting and bowling coaches addressing the strategy to "adapt to conditions" . I dont think its an age issue. irerspective of who it is if they know how to play disciplined bowling (like the aussies did) session after session, then that person is best suited to go out and play. Unfortunately, the selectors have no way of finding it out and teh staff have no way to testing it either, so it comes as a suprise to everyone.

  • Biggus on January 17, 2012, 13:36 GMT

    Every side meets it's nemesis at some time. For we Aussies it came in the form of an Ashes thrashing at the hands of England last year. For India it has been the tours of England and Australia. Disappointed as I understand the Indian fans are I have nevertheless been rather taken aback at the vitriol directed at their players these fans. The 'Big Three' have indeed underperformed but let's have a sense of proportion shall we? It is primarily the wonderful performances of these guys that have driven India up the rankings in recent times. Perhaps the time has come when they should go, I don't know, I'm not an Indian selector. Either way these were a 'once-in-a-generation' group and deserve better than being bad mouthed by a core of ill mannered T20 fans. It's the last time we Aussies will see them and that's a shame too, they really were tremendous players.

  • on January 17, 2012, 13:29 GMT

    Out side subcontinent India will surely defeated by Zimbawvean side

  • ansram on January 17, 2012, 13:27 GMT

    Dont worry everything will be buried under the IPL carpet soon!!

  • analyseabhishek on January 17, 2012, 12:38 GMT

    I only hope India suffers some embarrassments till Dec 2013 as well. Else not only the administration, but also the ordinary cricket fan will remain smug and self congratulatory. The WI series also was an indication no one noticed- that India had conceded first innings lead in 2 out of 3 tests. No one among India's top 7 was looking really in form, barring Dravid (and he too went OOF in Australia; Sachin more in form but couldn't convert it!). It now appears strange how people hyped this series up for India.

  • Sean_89 on January 17, 2012, 12:06 GMT

    Completely agree with Mr Monga, but alas ! its asking too much from a Politicized Board,whose only aim is to rake in the Moolah ! The hard work in the last decade by Ganguly and Team brought us to the No 1 position in Tests or what we achieved in World cup, However unless the BCCI has Hardcore Cricketing Proffessionals in its main Management, I dont expect much,

    Also the myopic Indian fan, will forget All, once we win against Zimbabwe or Kenya and few guys score a Century. THis is the Sadest part of Indian Sports, Look at China, how meticulously they plan and groom their sportsman, and the result ....HIGHEST MEDAL TALLY in OLOMPICS !!!!

  • on January 17, 2012, 11:54 GMT

    Very true, Team India's performance in the last 7 away tests better not be forgotten! High time some big decisions are taken!

  • Y2SJ on January 17, 2012, 11:22 GMT

    The trouble is Duncan Fletcher is not Gary Kirsten. Kirsten was spoon feeding Dhoni regardng strategy and plans backstage. It has created an illusion that Dhoni is a good leader. He is good in executing a plan. If Fletcher creates a plan and trains the players accoridngly, Dhoni can bring the team to victory again. But sadly I dont see that happening. Dhoni is not a leader like Ganguly.

  • FoollyFedUp on January 17, 2012, 11:00 GMT

    Fair point, but will Mr. Shukla or Mr. Srinivasan feel hurt. I doubt it. An indulgent and often compromised media shys from asking tough and probing questions to these gentlemen.

  • Potatis on January 17, 2012, 10:14 GMT

    India are playing so badly, and with so little fight, that there is no guarantee that they'll win at home either. 2012 & 2013 may be years where the opposition teams break their cricketing droughts in the sub-continent. The losses won't be so quickly forgotten then.

  • kasyapm on January 17, 2012, 10:13 GMT

    Excellent article! Great summary of what Indian cricket had earned in the last decade and what should be the way forward. Loved these lines in particular: "It should not be as simple as this: former players criticise, editors write editorials, an effigy or three is burnt, the IPL comes along, a home series is won, and everything is forgotten" "The No. 1 ranking was definitely deserved - if not in the way dominating teams do, in a fighting, better-than-the-rest-at-the-time way. It was a lifetime's work, accumulated painstakingly and against the odds." "Home Test wins are not to be scoffed at. Playing spin and reverse swing ought to be as big a test of a batsman's skills as playing pace, bounce, normal swing and seam."

  • indianpunter on January 17, 2012, 9:30 GMT

    Finally, the elephants in the room are being discussed. Laxman should be dropped for the Adelaide test ( if he does not announce his retirement before that) and dravid has to go at the end of this series. By the time, India play our next series, Dravid will be closer to 40 than 39 and more than that, it has been such a struggle to see him bat this entire series. The spirit is willing, but the technique and the foot movements have long deserted him. This is the perfect time to rebuild. Anoint Kohli as the new captain, and build the team around him. Dravid and Laxman have been colossuses of Indian cricket, but its time.

  • venbas on January 17, 2012, 9:26 GMT

    The last thing I read in the papers today is how Harry Potter star is going to wow the audience and how there is a F1 blast planned around Jenson Button and Lewis Hamilton...all around the IPL ofcourse. Why should an aspiring cricketer like M.Vijay or Dinesh Karthik care about test cricket when they can make 10+ crores per year through IPL? Ofcourse the seniors including Sachin, Bhajji etc. will have 100 percent attendance for IPL even if they willingly skip international tours to relax and be in the right frame of mind!!!

  • ChuckyDoll on January 17, 2012, 8:55 GMT

    Good article. There are several questions that come to my mind. I wish the BCCI would honestly clarify them. The first and foremost is: does the BCCI really care to do well in Tests ? Is it hurting the revenues enough to go for a success in Tests ? What if this is what the BCCI wanted: soft on Test Matches. After all, pride alone is not enough to regain #1 status. Secondly, will BCCI ever give power to the coach and captain to select personnel or is it like: "here is the best 15 for you, do your best with given 15 and don't look outside the box of 15". Third, who does it hurt to lose ? Who is losing their sleep over this ? 7 debacles and I still don't see any accountability. Players are merely employees, that should be fired last. Where is the CEO, where is the planning committee, what about the coaches who failed in England and Australia ? Why are they not taken to the cleaners ? Why won't the coaches not take the heat from the media ? Why put the players under the bus before anyone?

  • Gizza on January 17, 2012, 8:54 GMT

    The BCCI will do whatever it can to try to make the Indian fans and the players forget about these horrendous tours. It is up to the journalists and fans themselves to remind themselves of the pain and voice their concerns on Cricinfo and other internet sites. In a year's time India might be coasting along nicely in their home matches and IPL/Champions League but the journalists and fans will have to remember the suffering. Whatever influence the journalists and fans have on the players, it will help even if it is a tiny bit.

  • Gizza on January 17, 2012, 8:15 GMT

    Looking at India's FTP, they go through a massive gap in away Tests (hosting NZ, Eng and Aus) as the article mentions and then 16 away Tests in a period of 14 months (SA, NZ, Eng and Aus). Seriously they should try to mix it up a bit more. At least one home and away series every year. But the thing is, India's aren't even playing that many home Tests before their next away tour. They will be playing ODI's and T20 which goes to the heart of the problem. The BCCI should try to add one or two tests during India's tour of Zimbabwe which means their next away Tests will be July 2013 instead of December 2013.

  • tashan329 on January 17, 2012, 8:13 GMT

    the problem with indian team is that the ganguly' effect is gone now.......dhoni's effect has started. Dhonis is far from DADA's level

  • on January 17, 2012, 7:35 GMT

    I don"t think anyone cares. We are too busy living in denial. After the "whitewash"in England , Indians in general and Sunil Gavaskar in particular were scoffing at the Argus report and how "India does not have to ape Australia". I think the biggest difference in the slow but steady revival of Australian cricket has been the emergence of Craig McDermott as a great improvement over the overrated Troy Cooley whose obsession with "reverse swing"meant that the Australians were basically bowling the wrong lengths. I also think we picked the inferior South African coach compared to Australia. The first step to solving a problem is recognizing that there is a problem. Not brushing it under the carpet a la N Srinivasan! The sad part though is that our domination in India too may not be all that complete as thanks to IPL subcontinental conditions are no longer alien to foreigners. And our spinners too are not world class. Welcome to no 4 in the world! sridhar

  • SouthPaw on January 17, 2012, 7:31 GMT

    Sidharth, you sum the situation well - "Diagnose the problem and move on to the next course of action"

    But the media has to understand this: 1. Sachin is NOT waiting for the first century of his life, so you guys please don't talk about his 100th 1st class ton as if it was. He has more runs than you scribes have published words.

    2. Dravid getting out bowled is like SRT getting out LBW or VVS getting out caught at slips. They cannot get out like Sehwag gets out in very creative ways. Dravid has a 50+ average, 12k+ test runs & the highest runs this year. So, LAY OFF you couch cricketers. Do we analyze your media skills?

    3. Sourav Ganguly - classic case of sour grapes, he shouldn't be allowed to comment on the time, considering he still thinks he can play cricket.

    4. Media - should stick to coverage & writing facts. YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED COACHES OR are you TECHNICAL MASTERS!

    Indian crickets fans are hurting, but it is only a game, it is not like as if our country has been molested.

  • on January 17, 2012, 7:20 GMT

    Good article, Siddharth, but i feel India might have had a better away record in the past few years and rose to the number one ranking spot, but that was not because we improved, rather, it was because the others went down.And now that those countries were hurt enough to put plans in place and rebound, we are falling back to a position which i think is more realistic of us ie. number 3-5 in the rankings. We could not win a series in Australia in 2003-04 when the best batting line-up we could ever conjure up could do no better than a draw. The same batsmen are slower now, and will need to be phased out for new blood to come in, and whoever comes in, i dont think they can ever be better than the Dravid-Sachin-Lax-Saurav combo...We need to be realistic now, and accept regular away defeats and the occasional win/draw until a major side again starts to give.Till the time we have sporting pitches, and a generation of batsmen grow on it, we will never master Australia or South Africa.

  • on January 17, 2012, 6:44 GMT

    if sachin , dravid and vvs cannot bat at these pitches and condition. then what is is the use. to score 10,000 runs and more. you cannot handle this bowling. and play respectable score. what is the use. every match 50- 4. how can your survive. in test. at least 250-300 if they were managing . indian could have put pressure of australia. this is not acceptable whoever it is. it may me media god of cricket sachin. cannot bat then should not be in the team simple. 30-40 does not help and then giving excuse that no one is at other end. does not help. dravid cannot play over pitch ball and getting bowled - the whole life effort of batting has gone in vain. vvs chasing every time. cannot judge swing. sachin lbw- cannot play straight as he use to play. playing across and nodding head for giving Lbw. when he is clean plumb.giving expression - not required. with such performance. selectors and the team. half the team should be axed. it better to play with new players and loose rather

  • unbiasedfan on January 17, 2012, 6:30 GMT

    UNLIKELY the players will care, unlikely BCCI will dwell too much into these defeats and most unlikely that the public will care once the series ends. At the end its the public's willingness to be enthralled by mediocrity mixed with an odd win here and there and individual performances which is to be blamed. Given the total lack of anything else for the masses to fasten its attention on cricket will continue to flourish in mediocrity. Jai Hind.

  • Crictotter on January 17, 2012, 6:23 GMT

    Good article... Until BCCI keeps IPL out as a separate entity the scenario isnt going to improve. IPL is entertaining and is a big money spinner but its test cricket that brings in character of cricket. BCCI needs to focus more on domestic cricket more and more and on building a strong bench which makes even the Ranji a world class competition. Thats the way Indian cricket will reign and a number 1 ranking will be a by-product.

  • Meety on January 17, 2012, 6:20 GMT

    The worry is that if they don't start shedding some of the older legends, they will have a comfortable (relatively speaking) 2 years of playing at home, then retire. This could leave up to 5 spaces suddenly made vacant in the top 7 (Sehwag, Dravid, VVS, SRT & Dhoni), not to mention one of India's most experienced players in Yuraj Singh almost done by then too! It will then fall on the shoulders of Ghambir to carry the side away from India, yet he doesn't have a great overseas record anyways! India do have good replacements, but they won't be as good as OFTEN as the aging greats. A line up that consists of Ghambir, Rahane, Pujara, Raina, Kholi, Sharma, Saha, Ashwin/Ojha, Zaheer (?), I Sharma/Aaron, & Yadav would probably show more enthusiasm (have to) than the current lethargic line up.

  • NairUSA on January 17, 2012, 6:11 GMT

    India should aim to win overseas if they want to be reckoned as a great team. A planned approach to countering bowlers and conditions outside of India should be created. It definitely appeared as if the aussie bowlers had a definite plan for each Indian senior batsmen and they worked. Maybe the help of a professional strategy team could help.

  • on January 17, 2012, 5:57 GMT

    as far as i remember, India lost its last test series in Pakistan 1-0, it was the karachi test they lost and i dont hink they ve played since in Pakistan..

  • on January 17, 2012, 5:46 GMT

    india has lost & lost badly which needs well thought out introspection rather than a knee jerk rxn. defeat is a defeat home or abroad. but i still feel this indian team is not as bad as it is made out 2 be.As far as the seniors r concerned they r mature enough to decide their fate. I am sure they will take a wise decision at the earliest.

  • on January 17, 2012, 5:40 GMT

    Whats wrong with this attitude is that the game itself will not survive if India does not do something about insuring that each tour is at least a contest. They have resided to send a team overseas based on reputation and past exploits. . . with little or no preparation. . . in varying states of injury. . . and worse still they ignore the talented up and comers that put in hard work to achieve success at the top level. The BCCI is simply wanting to control the game in their own backyard and make conditions so in favour of the Indian team that it insures there will not be an Indian series win away from home. I honestly think its going to take the boycotting of Indian tours and the IPL (by foreign players and boards) to sting their hip pockets enough discussion to change this stupid system.

  • dunger.bob on January 17, 2012, 5:40 GMT

    Mr. Monga, you are fast becoming a hero of mine. You have a wonderfully global outlook and are one of the few Indian media blokes who can see past the almighty rupee and actually focus on the cricket. I'm an Aussie, so I think I see things from a totally different perspective than most Indians, and that's only to be expected I guess. For me, and most of my breed, total dominance in ALL forms of the great game is the only goal worth striving for. Put simply, we want to win against all opposition in all conditions and we don't care how many overs the game is supposed to last. Is that wrong? For us, no. It's not wrong, in fact its absolutely right. When we lose, it hurts. It hurts like hell. We try to use that pain to spur us on to greater efforts so that it doesn't happen again. Many think we are arrogant and guilty of trying to impose ourselves into areas that are way above our station. Maybe so. All I can say is "don't knock it till you try it"

  • on January 17, 2012, 5:17 GMT

    I wholeheartedly agree. We should not forget what happened unless a series is won both in England, Australia and South Africa. Maybe Indian players should have a monogram on their shirt "Remember Humiliation 2011-12" or better still maybe the entire team should have these words tattoed on their chest like Aamir Khan in Ghazni.

  • chin-music on January 17, 2012, 5:15 GMT

    Srinivasan may now deny it - but his "misquote" is a classic example of how India lacks even a basic sporting culture. And, the tragic part is that he is not an isolated case -- his "but, i can still beat you on my dust bowl, so everything is ok " thought is actually shared by so many of the Indian fans commenting on cricinfo columns. A miserable mentality deserves the miserable team it has created .

  • rajat-column on January 17, 2012, 5:13 GMT

    I think the problem is with Indian team's batting approach. Naturally all Indian batsman are aggressive and strokemakers and their approach had worked for a long time due to strong reflexes of Indian senior players. Now when England and Australian fast bowlers have bowled consistently on very good lengths, they have been found out due to combination of good bowling and poor reflexes of Indian batsman. Now Indian batsman should try a different safety first approach in batting like Pakistan and start leaving the balls outside off stump and try to bat at least 2 days in an innings. India should stop thinking about winning test matches and try to draw them considering their limitations till new generation of good batsman are found. Win will come automatically in some test matches by good bowling performances. Test cricket at it's best.

  • rats_rule on January 17, 2012, 5:12 GMT

    BCCI will glance over this series loss in Australia because all they are worried about is destroying test cricket and replacing it with mickey mouse cricket around the world

  • akhilhp on January 17, 2012, 4:44 GMT

    Great Article.. Sidharth... I hope India will show some spine in last test and one day series. (it is not about winning it is about showing some spine)

  • on January 17, 2012, 4:44 GMT

    Its a surprise that Srikanth says the Post Mortem of the Series will not tell us any thing and it is the silliest thing Chief Selector can say.

    Both England and Australia claim that they studied past performance tapes of Indians and bowled according to plan and denying Indian batsmen freedom of playing their strokes and bowling out-side off stump line. It will be prudent on part of the Indian team management to "Study these bowlers and take necessary corrective counter measures".

    Its not a difficult thing to achieve and be prepared for the coming tours, lest you find out too late that other teams like Bangladesh etc have done the same thing to Indians and then you lose real face value !

    We have a promising team and we should also use the Technology when it is available, if you want to give back to England and Australia what you got during these 2 Test series.

    One more person should be hired by the team and that is a "Motivator", who can bring out the lacking fire in team.

  • praful_cric on January 17, 2012, 4:38 GMT

    Another master piece by Sidharth. First time I am seeing an article where somebody has guts to give credit to senior players like Sachin, Sourav etc rather than Dhoni and company. Harsha Bhogle and BCCI should read this and learn how IPL is ruining the Indian cricket. Alas I know this will not make any difference.

  • VikkuVinakaram on January 17, 2012, 4:35 GMT

    Excellent Article as always .. however, I am afraid things arent going to be any different this time around as well with the BCCI behaving the way it has been doing all along ... having said that, I have no other solution other than to hand over BCCI to a professional organization (Outsourcing)

  • Rishabh.Mehta on January 17, 2012, 4:25 GMT

    Hey Siddharth, Brilliant article...... And i completely agree that no 1 ranking that india got was only because of four players (Sachin, Sehwag, Laxman and Zaheer) and not the entire team or the so called great captain MSD....... We need to think ahead and see if dhoni is of any use to the test team further as he is the most useless captain i have ever seen in my cricket experience..... He should be the first one to be thrown away and next should be Kris Srikanth...... and lastly it should be Sharad PAwar.

  • indianpunter on January 17, 2012, 4:21 GMT

    This is spot on. But there is no hurt, no dented pride. I saw them practice in perth and there was simply no intent. I read in Outlook a few days ago that Gaekwad heard an Indian player admonishing his team mate for diving in a Deodhar trophy game ( why are you diving, do you want to be injured for IPL?) That just broke me as a fan. . There are multiple things wrong with the Indian team, and a review is badly needed to address some of this. But when the rut starts at the top, i have little hope. How can the BCCI chief insult a fan by stating that "everyone will be happy soon"? That just reeeks of non chanlance, flippancy and contempt for the paying public. I hold grave fears for the future of Indian cricket.

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on January 17, 2012, 4:09 GMT

    First of all, I think too much emphasis was put on the #1 rank. When SA was #1 there wasn't too much hype and now Eng r #1 they are more concerned about proving it, maintaining it and building on it....not celebrating it at every turn. 2ndly, in Kumble and Harbhajan (of old), Ind had a better bowling attack than now. Lastly, Ind were allowed to win overseas particularly because overseas pitches had eased out, it is noticeable that over the past 2 yrs, the pitches have spiced up, either seaming n bouncing or turning more. Ind's strength of batting has now been curved. Furthermore, did they beat W.I. and Eng because they had gotten so much stronger or had W.I. and Eng become so much weaker at that point? I can't see this Eng team under Flower ever losing to Ind in ENg at any time in Ind's history. Still Ind did a lot of things right at 1 point, all they have to do is revisit the template.

  • satish619chandar on January 17, 2012, 4:08 GMT

    "Are they the only ones who'll feel the pain of this latest loss?" But they are the ones who should take the ownership of the twin debacles.. With their experience, they should have put up a better show for sure.. If would blame the top 5 as they are playing together for years now.. If these guys cant do it, how can we expect Virat to do this..

  • vint on January 17, 2012, 4:08 GMT

    I live in Australia and i have seen all the 3 test matches so far... the problem is not that the team is badly performing outside India... i mean if this team played in India against SA it will get crushed to fine particles of dust because the batsman would not be able to put runs on the board... because they are extremely old... to fix this...Tendulkar needs to be there to see the new India through as well as to let go of coach Duncan fletcher...he has no ability to lead india because he lacks the fire as well as his game plans are consistently being shot down... Look at Kirsten India were in all kinds of trouble in some test matches and he came with ways in which india were able to ressurect themselves.. the man for fletcher's job would have to be Kapi Devl... he has the fire and he has the cricketing brains to see this transition through

  • sk12 on January 17, 2012, 4:06 GMT

    I fell Dhoni has to step down, he has enormous pressure on him as a captain and wk in all formats. He has to retire from tests and concentrate on ODI and t20. A young energetic keeper who shouts encouragements and livens up the fielders esp when the chips are down is the need of the hour for India.

  • sk12 on January 17, 2012, 4:02 GMT

    We might hav lost 7-0, but we are certainly not a bad team. We will bounce back soon enough. Umesh and Ishant have good pace and swing the new ball, they'll grow stronger and learn how to reverse. A fit Praveen can replace Zaheer (who will start to rest more and more, la Sachin) as the "Indian Mcgrath". Dravid will retire at the end of this series but we have Mukund, Rohit, Pujara and Rahane in the wings. Laxman and Sachin will retire probably by this year end, these guys can get in the team and get accustomed to the grind and will be ripe by the time the next overseas tour comes up.

  • on January 17, 2012, 4:01 GMT

    Indian Premier League must stay on, without it we would not be able to unleash talents like R Ashwin, R Jadeja, S Raina, R Sharma, the list is endless. Losing Overseas was not due to these players, why dont people analyse properly, it is because the big guns did not fire. They fire in IPL but not when its most needed. Tell me Virat didnt play well in Perth, he was the best indian batsman undoubtedly in that test match. Ian Chapell was. spot on with selection being short sighted, home tests could have given opportunities to S Badrinath , Pujara, Rahane. So that we will have a amazing set of back ups if the big guns didnt fire. Singling out Dhoni is unfair, by far he has the best cricketing brain after Ganguly.

  • AJ_Tiger86 on January 17, 2012, 3:41 GMT

    "Since April 2005 only South Africa have been able to beat them in Tests at home." -- I see you've forgotten England's famous victory at Mumbai when India were bundled out for 100 and Tendulkar was booed by his home crowd.

  • sabina2009 on January 17, 2012, 3:38 GMT

    It is time India should play Pakistan in Dubai now. India proves over and over again that they play well on their home soil. Elsewhere, they are just an ordinary team. Test status should be grabbed away from India

  • Stevo_ on January 17, 2012, 3:27 GMT

    How can India be allowed to only play home series for two years?. The ICC is a joke.

  • Slam_cox on January 17, 2012, 3:26 GMT

    Wow! This article was written in the future!!

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  • Slam_cox on January 17, 2012, 3:26 GMT

    Wow! This article was written in the future!!

  • Stevo_ on January 17, 2012, 3:27 GMT

    How can India be allowed to only play home series for two years?. The ICC is a joke.

  • sabina2009 on January 17, 2012, 3:38 GMT

    It is time India should play Pakistan in Dubai now. India proves over and over again that they play well on their home soil. Elsewhere, they are just an ordinary team. Test status should be grabbed away from India

  • AJ_Tiger86 on January 17, 2012, 3:41 GMT

    "Since April 2005 only South Africa have been able to beat them in Tests at home." -- I see you've forgotten England's famous victory at Mumbai when India were bundled out for 100 and Tendulkar was booed by his home crowd.

  • on January 17, 2012, 4:01 GMT

    Indian Premier League must stay on, without it we would not be able to unleash talents like R Ashwin, R Jadeja, S Raina, R Sharma, the list is endless. Losing Overseas was not due to these players, why dont people analyse properly, it is because the big guns did not fire. They fire in IPL but not when its most needed. Tell me Virat didnt play well in Perth, he was the best indian batsman undoubtedly in that test match. Ian Chapell was. spot on with selection being short sighted, home tests could have given opportunities to S Badrinath , Pujara, Rahane. So that we will have a amazing set of back ups if the big guns didnt fire. Singling out Dhoni is unfair, by far he has the best cricketing brain after Ganguly.

  • sk12 on January 17, 2012, 4:02 GMT

    We might hav lost 7-0, but we are certainly not a bad team. We will bounce back soon enough. Umesh and Ishant have good pace and swing the new ball, they'll grow stronger and learn how to reverse. A fit Praveen can replace Zaheer (who will start to rest more and more, la Sachin) as the "Indian Mcgrath". Dravid will retire at the end of this series but we have Mukund, Rohit, Pujara and Rahane in the wings. Laxman and Sachin will retire probably by this year end, these guys can get in the team and get accustomed to the grind and will be ripe by the time the next overseas tour comes up.

  • sk12 on January 17, 2012, 4:06 GMT

    I fell Dhoni has to step down, he has enormous pressure on him as a captain and wk in all formats. He has to retire from tests and concentrate on ODI and t20. A young energetic keeper who shouts encouragements and livens up the fielders esp when the chips are down is the need of the hour for India.

  • vint on January 17, 2012, 4:08 GMT

    I live in Australia and i have seen all the 3 test matches so far... the problem is not that the team is badly performing outside India... i mean if this team played in India against SA it will get crushed to fine particles of dust because the batsman would not be able to put runs on the board... because they are extremely old... to fix this...Tendulkar needs to be there to see the new India through as well as to let go of coach Duncan fletcher...he has no ability to lead india because he lacks the fire as well as his game plans are consistently being shot down... Look at Kirsten India were in all kinds of trouble in some test matches and he came with ways in which india were able to ressurect themselves.. the man for fletcher's job would have to be Kapi Devl... he has the fire and he has the cricketing brains to see this transition through

  • satish619chandar on January 17, 2012, 4:08 GMT

    "Are they the only ones who'll feel the pain of this latest loss?" But they are the ones who should take the ownership of the twin debacles.. With their experience, they should have put up a better show for sure.. If would blame the top 5 as they are playing together for years now.. If these guys cant do it, how can we expect Virat to do this..

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on January 17, 2012, 4:09 GMT

    First of all, I think too much emphasis was put on the #1 rank. When SA was #1 there wasn't too much hype and now Eng r #1 they are more concerned about proving it, maintaining it and building on it....not celebrating it at every turn. 2ndly, in Kumble and Harbhajan (of old), Ind had a better bowling attack than now. Lastly, Ind were allowed to win overseas particularly because overseas pitches had eased out, it is noticeable that over the past 2 yrs, the pitches have spiced up, either seaming n bouncing or turning more. Ind's strength of batting has now been curved. Furthermore, did they beat W.I. and Eng because they had gotten so much stronger or had W.I. and Eng become so much weaker at that point? I can't see this Eng team under Flower ever losing to Ind in ENg at any time in Ind's history. Still Ind did a lot of things right at 1 point, all they have to do is revisit the template.