South Africa in New Zealand 2011-12 March 12, 2012

Southee dropped for Hamilton Test

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Tim Southee has been dropped from New Zealand's squad for the second Test against South Africa in Hamilton, starting on Thursday. After a tough first Test in Dunedin, in which he conceded 140 runs and failed to take a wicket, Southee will return to the Plunket Shield to work on technique and form.

New Zealand have beefed up their bowling with the addition of Mark Gillespie and the re-inclusion of Brent Arnel, who was part of the squad for the first Test but was not included in the final 12.

Gillespie has come off a run of fine form in which he has taken 20 wickets in his last three first-class matches. He is third on the list of wicket-takers, behind the yet-to-be-eligible Neil Wagner and Arnel, with 30 wickets at an average of 27.53.

"Tim Southee hasn't been included He's a talented young fast bowler and we are confident he will return to the Plunket Shield and continue to put pressure on those in the Test team," Kim Littlejohn, New Zealand national selection manager said. "Mark Gillespie returns to international cricket after showing good form recently and provides and a strong and reliable bowling option."

Gillespie has played three Tests for New Zealand, one of them against South Africa in November 2007 at Centurion. Gillespie will have fond memories of that match as it was his Test debut and he took a five-for in South Africa's only innings, dismissing Jacques Kallis, AB de Villiers and Mark Boucher.

There is the possibility that Arnel and Gillespie won't feature in the final XI on a pitch that is no longer expected to be seamer-friendly. Although there was initially talk of a green wicket being prepared at Seddon Park, this has been doused by the suggestion that the strip may actually be a little dry.

In anticipation of that, New Zealand have also added variety to their attack, with the inclusion of legspinner Tarun Nethula, who has yet to play Test cricket. "We are pleased to be able to offer Tarun an opportunity. He is bowling well and offers a point of difference to the attack," Littlejohn said.

Neither BJ Watling, who is recovering from a hip joint injury, nor Dean Brownlie, who has a fractured finger, were considered for the squad. South African-born wicket-keeper Kruger van Wyk keeps his place along with Rob Nicol, who had a tough debut opening the batting.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • MH13 on March 14, 2012, 7:54 GMT

    nz have done it again ,year after year they bring back the same guys ,slow medium pacers like arnel with his 56 test avg, while ozzie blood there young fast quicks. why cant we sellect adam milne or bevin small. give them ago ,give tommie lathem ago ,nicols not a test player, give nathula a go . im sick of the same old selection policy.

  • Tartanspringbok on March 13, 2012, 21:45 GMT

    the yet-to-be-eligible Neil Wagner!!!! oh come on!!! another Saffa in the team. When is this going to stop? I wait for the day that 50% of international sportsmen are born is South Africa!

  • zn264 on March 13, 2012, 14:11 GMT

    @zenboomerang We play at these grounds because they're dedicatd cricket grounds. The stadium in Auckland (where they play limited overs) is set up for rugby, the dimensions are rubbish and not prepared for test matches. You will also find that Hamilton and Dunedin are still considered large cities, for New Zealand that is. We just don't have the numbers in general to fill large stadiums, plus with the rugby and league underway now...cricket is not on the radar for many. Wait until the last test though before you get too carried away, The Basin Reserve in Wellington is the best ground in the country, and with a bit of sun, will pack out for Saturday/Sunday. It just goes to show how well we do in this sport to even compete with the likes of South Africa/England/India etc with such a small pool of players. Rugby is number 1 and we're number 1, perhaps we need to shift the focus for a decade or two!

  • zenboomerang on March 13, 2012, 8:19 GMT

    Also Kiwi fans - why aren't you playing in Auckland?... And why Dunedin & Hamilton? I know Auckland is a 100 odd kms up the road but it does add to the cost of watching a Test... If you want crowds to turn up surely you should be playing in the centre of your larger population centres - or has Test cricket fallen that far down the sporting ladder?... I know our recent 2 Test series was too short, but scheduling left no room, but why didn't we play 3 Tests in our last tour to NZ?... You managed to put in 5 ODI's & 2 T20's but only 2 Tests... A pity...

  • zenboomerang on March 13, 2012, 8:10 GMT

    Used to enjoy watching Southee bowl & thought him to be an excellent bowler that often troubled the batsmen... But he seems to have lost his "edge" over the last year or so (too complacent maybe?)... Watching him is Oz he just seems to go through the motions more than attack - he was good on green seaming pitches but didn't bowl in the right areas often enough... Time out might help him focus a bit more...

  • jakeyboy91 on March 13, 2012, 1:45 GMT

    Agree with most of the comments here about Southee, he needs to be dropped - bit of application and he could be very good bowler who could bat up the order. Hopefully Ryder gets his act together soon too. all this talk about Franklin and Ellis?? test match cricket isnt for bits and pieces players. NZs best team would be McCullum, Guptil, Brownlie, Taylor, Ryder, Williamson, Vettori, Watling, Bracewell, Boult/Southee/Milne/or the auckland quick who took 8 for the other day, and Martin.

  • on March 12, 2012, 22:54 GMT

    rismati NZ would beat the current rabble that's the Indian cricket team atm. Just like in the late 90s early 2000s, because they're the most gutless cricket team in the world and crumble when faced with any adversity

  • zn264 on March 12, 2012, 16:11 GMT

    I'm happy that a bowler is being replaced with another genuine bowler. None of this Franklin or Ellis rubbish. Whenever we place this type of player in the team they fail! They're not all rounders, batsmen or strike bowlers, so leave them for the Limited overs stuff! If we need more batting, put in a batsman; however I don't think this is the case. We have plenty of batting to get the job done (if Kane can get his act together), our biggest problem has always been taking 20 wickets in test matches so lets focus on that. I hope Nicol does score some runs as he has looked good in this series, not only with the bat but in field too. I think he did quite well in the second innings, and his technique didn't look half bad for what he was up against.

  • on March 12, 2012, 13:24 GMT

    Should have been Franklin for Southee.

  • on March 12, 2012, 12:32 GMT

    Southee needs to work on his technique and channel his aggression in that direction. Mouthing off to the batsmen only really works if you're taking wickets regularly, too.

    Nicol looks for all intents and purposes, a LOI player only. Huge flaws in his technique and, as opening batsman, there's nowhere to hide.

    If the weather plays ball, I expect RSA to win the next 2 Tests.

  • MH13 on March 14, 2012, 7:54 GMT

    nz have done it again ,year after year they bring back the same guys ,slow medium pacers like arnel with his 56 test avg, while ozzie blood there young fast quicks. why cant we sellect adam milne or bevin small. give them ago ,give tommie lathem ago ,nicols not a test player, give nathula a go . im sick of the same old selection policy.

  • Tartanspringbok on March 13, 2012, 21:45 GMT

    the yet-to-be-eligible Neil Wagner!!!! oh come on!!! another Saffa in the team. When is this going to stop? I wait for the day that 50% of international sportsmen are born is South Africa!

  • zn264 on March 13, 2012, 14:11 GMT

    @zenboomerang We play at these grounds because they're dedicatd cricket grounds. The stadium in Auckland (where they play limited overs) is set up for rugby, the dimensions are rubbish and not prepared for test matches. You will also find that Hamilton and Dunedin are still considered large cities, for New Zealand that is. We just don't have the numbers in general to fill large stadiums, plus with the rugby and league underway now...cricket is not on the radar for many. Wait until the last test though before you get too carried away, The Basin Reserve in Wellington is the best ground in the country, and with a bit of sun, will pack out for Saturday/Sunday. It just goes to show how well we do in this sport to even compete with the likes of South Africa/England/India etc with such a small pool of players. Rugby is number 1 and we're number 1, perhaps we need to shift the focus for a decade or two!

  • zenboomerang on March 13, 2012, 8:19 GMT

    Also Kiwi fans - why aren't you playing in Auckland?... And why Dunedin & Hamilton? I know Auckland is a 100 odd kms up the road but it does add to the cost of watching a Test... If you want crowds to turn up surely you should be playing in the centre of your larger population centres - or has Test cricket fallen that far down the sporting ladder?... I know our recent 2 Test series was too short, but scheduling left no room, but why didn't we play 3 Tests in our last tour to NZ?... You managed to put in 5 ODI's & 2 T20's but only 2 Tests... A pity...

  • zenboomerang on March 13, 2012, 8:10 GMT

    Used to enjoy watching Southee bowl & thought him to be an excellent bowler that often troubled the batsmen... But he seems to have lost his "edge" over the last year or so (too complacent maybe?)... Watching him is Oz he just seems to go through the motions more than attack - he was good on green seaming pitches but didn't bowl in the right areas often enough... Time out might help him focus a bit more...

  • jakeyboy91 on March 13, 2012, 1:45 GMT

    Agree with most of the comments here about Southee, he needs to be dropped - bit of application and he could be very good bowler who could bat up the order. Hopefully Ryder gets his act together soon too. all this talk about Franklin and Ellis?? test match cricket isnt for bits and pieces players. NZs best team would be McCullum, Guptil, Brownlie, Taylor, Ryder, Williamson, Vettori, Watling, Bracewell, Boult/Southee/Milne/or the auckland quick who took 8 for the other day, and Martin.

  • on March 12, 2012, 22:54 GMT

    rismati NZ would beat the current rabble that's the Indian cricket team atm. Just like in the late 90s early 2000s, because they're the most gutless cricket team in the world and crumble when faced with any adversity

  • zn264 on March 12, 2012, 16:11 GMT

    I'm happy that a bowler is being replaced with another genuine bowler. None of this Franklin or Ellis rubbish. Whenever we place this type of player in the team they fail! They're not all rounders, batsmen or strike bowlers, so leave them for the Limited overs stuff! If we need more batting, put in a batsman; however I don't think this is the case. We have plenty of batting to get the job done (if Kane can get his act together), our biggest problem has always been taking 20 wickets in test matches so lets focus on that. I hope Nicol does score some runs as he has looked good in this series, not only with the bat but in field too. I think he did quite well in the second innings, and his technique didn't look half bad for what he was up against.

  • on March 12, 2012, 13:24 GMT

    Should have been Franklin for Southee.

  • on March 12, 2012, 12:32 GMT

    Southee needs to work on his technique and channel his aggression in that direction. Mouthing off to the batsmen only really works if you're taking wickets regularly, too.

    Nicol looks for all intents and purposes, a LOI player only. Huge flaws in his technique and, as opening batsman, there's nowhere to hide.

    If the weather plays ball, I expect RSA to win the next 2 Tests.

  • mikehol on March 12, 2012, 10:55 GMT

    I'm so sick of the procession of openers who display essential flaws in their technique. Nicol looked all at sea in both the ODI's and the tests and while aggressive play in the ODIs will put some runs on the board and not make it seems so bad his lack of defensive technique added to the increased movement in the air and off the pitch in the test arena leaves me baffled as to why he is still in the team. The only reason i can think is that they are just using him as a placeholder until brownlie is fit rather than looking for a new batsman. Yovich has been prolific at domestic level and is completely ignored by all selectors or commentators.

  • StoneRose on March 12, 2012, 10:36 GMT

    INCLUDE AN EXTRA BATSMAN

  • risimati_l on March 12, 2012, 10:35 GMT

    It does not matter who the Black Caps bring in they still going to lose, lol man for man NZ is well below par with SA, AUS, ENG and IND you have a chance against the windies and Bangladesh.

  • on March 12, 2012, 9:42 GMT

    Well we all knew that this decision was coming. Dropping Southee was a no-brainer. The difficult thing was going to be to chose his replacement.

    I think the NZ batting lineup was a batsman short in the First Test and we were lucky to get away with the draw (lets not kid ourselves into thinking there was ever a possibility of any other result if the rain stayed away).

    The three players brought in to the squad mentioned in the article bring nothing to strengthen the batting. Do we really need FIVE fast bowlers in the squad?? I would rather have seen an extra batsman added - we only five batsmen in the squad + spinner Vettori and allrounder Ellis. That means if we want to strengthen the batting the only option is Ellis.

    Latham and Flynn, both with big hundreds to their name, would have been better options. But I am happy for Gillespie as he has been in great form. Arnel has yet to impress me.

    It wouldn't surprise me to see Nethula & Gillespie in for Southee & Boult.

  • stickywicketnick on March 12, 2012, 9:35 GMT

    I really hope they pick Gillespie as at least he adds a bit of pace to the ranks. Ian Obrien while commentating on the plunket sheild seemed to think he was bowling with some zip and hit McGlashan on the head. Having seen Nethula bowl a lot at Cornwall cricket club it's my belief that he is still a season short of being ready for Test cricket, he will be a good prospect, but not an option when playing such a strong team.

  • tanstell87 on March 12, 2012, 9:30 GMT

    @Ian Levinson - yes i know that SA won twice in last 2 trips on green wickets in India - Ahmedabad(2008) & Nagpur(2010)....but lately SA has been susceptible on green wickets...against India in Durban(2010)....against Australia(2009) & again against Australia(2011)...SA were bundled out for 90 in 1st innings at Cape Town too....the South African team of 90's was far ahead in terms of technique than the current team & was tough to beat !

  • on March 12, 2012, 9:04 GMT

    @tanstell87, you are completely wrong there, we are at our most deadly and dangerous on green pitches, remember that second test in india a while back we posted 550+ , skittled you for 60 something and skittled you again,(green track) when nz were last here we thrashed them by an innings and plenty of runs twice, all on green pitches and then of course lets not forget centurion india were last here, King Kallis getting his first double ton, check it out if you dont believe me

  • on March 12, 2012, 7:20 GMT

    A good bowler who has lost his way slightly by focusing on the verbals rather than his bowling. He's too good of a player to not be back in the Black Caps side in the near future. Exciting to see Tarun Nethula included; he's looked impressive and could pose quite a few problems for the Proteas in the remaining two Tests.

  • Nihontone on March 12, 2012, 7:18 GMT

    Good move. Southee has done very little since his first test. And I agree with @Loyd4148 that he is far too chirpy for someone who has taken 42 wickets at over 44 in 17 tests.

  • on March 12, 2012, 7:00 GMT

    Looks like Southee needed a bit more time with Allan Donald to discover what aggressive cricket is all about. It would seem his education stopped after the lecture on hurling abuse and well before the lectures on skill and technique. I'd like to see Nethula get a run in a Test but how would they manage the selection? Vettori and Nethula as spin options (with Nichol & Williamson) and Bracewell, Boult, Martin as the seamers? Talk has been that the wickets are going to get better for seam in the next matches so is it wise to go in with only 3 seamers?

  • Loyd4148 on March 12, 2012, 6:26 GMT

    I was wondering when were the NZ selectors gonna make this call with regards to Southee. I mean the guy is all talk and no action and he should rather focus his energy on his bowling, which is what he is picked for in the side instead of always chirping rubbish, and to be honest he was just making a nuisance of himself. I think the Proteas handled him very well with their silence, and only responding by putting runs on the board.

  • psychrofin on March 12, 2012, 6:21 GMT

    Yep hopefully he can turn it around...his test bowling and batting averages that is. The aggressive attitude was becoming an embarrasment to watch given the ineffectiveness of the aggressor in the long form of the game(and coaching staff that allowed this to go on in tests). Liking the inclusion of Nethula,Gillespie and Arnel as selectors shouldn't roll out the same established players to the same negative result game after game if there is any chance of someone else putting their hand up-give Tarun a go!!! Turn those positive individual signs into positive team results.

  • RandyOZ on March 12, 2012, 4:45 GMT

    Don't do it NZ! Don't turn into England!

  • choppa13 on March 12, 2012, 4:38 GMT

    Arnel is not the answer he is not much better than a club bowler, a punt on one of the young quicks that nz cricket say are around in the domestic comp would be far better option or Nethula as a second spinner should be given a chance because of vettori's inability to turn the ball and run through teams. but please not Arnel!!!!!!!!!

  • tanstell87 on March 12, 2012, 4:29 GMT

    Indian fan here....just when i thought Kiwis had found a good bowling attack,Southee finds himself out of the team...i do feel NZ curators should put more grass on the wickets as SA just like India are vulnerable playing on green wickets...i would rate current NZ bowling attack as one of the top 3...btw where is Adam Milne...watched him playing against Pakistan last year...he looked like Shane Bond in the making ! good luck to both teams !

  • Sean76 on March 12, 2012, 2:55 GMT

    The Mole returneth to hunt the boks. Pity poor creatures who are caught in his small but intense gaze

  • Patchmaster on March 12, 2012, 2:41 GMT

    I have to totally agree with this decision, and it shows new bravery and 'moving forward' type thinking from the NZ selectors, for which they should be congratulated. Southee has become a spoilt bratt, shouting abuse and so called 'sledging' as the batsmen calmy whack him around the park. He's bowling 10 or 15kph slower these days, with little swing or movement off the seam. He also used to be able to bat, but judging by his 'I'm terrified of fast bowling' shot in the first innings, he has thrown that towel in as well. I think Franklin should have a chance, as it bolsters our batting as well.

  • GasPipe on March 12, 2012, 2:39 GMT

    Oh I hope they debut Nethula, it would be wonderful to see a genuine spinner in the side in tandem with Vettori. Interesting to see Gillespie in the squad, wouldn't mind seeing him in the XI again in the third test if it's seamer-friendly conditions.

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  • GasPipe on March 12, 2012, 2:39 GMT

    Oh I hope they debut Nethula, it would be wonderful to see a genuine spinner in the side in tandem with Vettori. Interesting to see Gillespie in the squad, wouldn't mind seeing him in the XI again in the third test if it's seamer-friendly conditions.

  • Patchmaster on March 12, 2012, 2:41 GMT

    I have to totally agree with this decision, and it shows new bravery and 'moving forward' type thinking from the NZ selectors, for which they should be congratulated. Southee has become a spoilt bratt, shouting abuse and so called 'sledging' as the batsmen calmy whack him around the park. He's bowling 10 or 15kph slower these days, with little swing or movement off the seam. He also used to be able to bat, but judging by his 'I'm terrified of fast bowling' shot in the first innings, he has thrown that towel in as well. I think Franklin should have a chance, as it bolsters our batting as well.

  • Sean76 on March 12, 2012, 2:55 GMT

    The Mole returneth to hunt the boks. Pity poor creatures who are caught in his small but intense gaze

  • tanstell87 on March 12, 2012, 4:29 GMT

    Indian fan here....just when i thought Kiwis had found a good bowling attack,Southee finds himself out of the team...i do feel NZ curators should put more grass on the wickets as SA just like India are vulnerable playing on green wickets...i would rate current NZ bowling attack as one of the top 3...btw where is Adam Milne...watched him playing against Pakistan last year...he looked like Shane Bond in the making ! good luck to both teams !

  • choppa13 on March 12, 2012, 4:38 GMT

    Arnel is not the answer he is not much better than a club bowler, a punt on one of the young quicks that nz cricket say are around in the domestic comp would be far better option or Nethula as a second spinner should be given a chance because of vettori's inability to turn the ball and run through teams. but please not Arnel!!!!!!!!!

  • RandyOZ on March 12, 2012, 4:45 GMT

    Don't do it NZ! Don't turn into England!

  • psychrofin on March 12, 2012, 6:21 GMT

    Yep hopefully he can turn it around...his test bowling and batting averages that is. The aggressive attitude was becoming an embarrasment to watch given the ineffectiveness of the aggressor in the long form of the game(and coaching staff that allowed this to go on in tests). Liking the inclusion of Nethula,Gillespie and Arnel as selectors shouldn't roll out the same established players to the same negative result game after game if there is any chance of someone else putting their hand up-give Tarun a go!!! Turn those positive individual signs into positive team results.

  • Loyd4148 on March 12, 2012, 6:26 GMT

    I was wondering when were the NZ selectors gonna make this call with regards to Southee. I mean the guy is all talk and no action and he should rather focus his energy on his bowling, which is what he is picked for in the side instead of always chirping rubbish, and to be honest he was just making a nuisance of himself. I think the Proteas handled him very well with their silence, and only responding by putting runs on the board.

  • on March 12, 2012, 7:00 GMT

    Looks like Southee needed a bit more time with Allan Donald to discover what aggressive cricket is all about. It would seem his education stopped after the lecture on hurling abuse and well before the lectures on skill and technique. I'd like to see Nethula get a run in a Test but how would they manage the selection? Vettori and Nethula as spin options (with Nichol & Williamson) and Bracewell, Boult, Martin as the seamers? Talk has been that the wickets are going to get better for seam in the next matches so is it wise to go in with only 3 seamers?

  • Nihontone on March 12, 2012, 7:18 GMT

    Good move. Southee has done very little since his first test. And I agree with @Loyd4148 that he is far too chirpy for someone who has taken 42 wickets at over 44 in 17 tests.