Champions Twenty20 League May 26, 2009

Pakistan not consulted over Champions League exclusion

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Pakistan's cricket authorities have said they weren't contacted at all with regard to their ouster from the pool of teams that form the lucrative Champions League, a further worrying indicator of their increasing isolation in world cricket.

The tournament - with $6 million in prize money - is scheduled to be held in India this October and though the number of teams participating has increased from eight to 12, Lalit Modi, the tournament's chairman, said no team from Pakistan would be among them. "Unfortunately, the Pakistan government won't give them [the players] clearance to come to India, and since Saturday was our cut-off date, it's not possible to have a team from Pakistan this year," Modi was quoted by AFP as saying on Sunday.

But a senior PCB official, reacting to Modi's comments, told Cricinfo the board had not been contacted at all by anyone regarding the tournament. "Sialkot had been invited for the first tournament but since that was postponed, we have heard nothing from them at all. We weren't told about any cut-off dates or deadlines. I am surprised Mr Modi is second-guessing what the Pakistan government is likely to be thinking in October," the official said. Incidentally, the PCB's domestic Twenty20 tournament is currently underway with a winner due to emerge on May 29.

Javed Miandad, PCB's director general, said it was "very disappointing" that no board had spoken out against Pakistan's exclusion. "When we used to play cricket all the boards had principles but now I see that money has made them turn a deaf ear to everything," Miandad told PPI. "India with the power of its money has earned the support from all stakeholders and we find no one who could listen and support us."

Pakistan had a representative - Sialkot Stallions - for last year's tournament that was postponed following the Mumbai attacks. Relations between India and Pakistan then deteriorated; India refused to tour in January and Pakistan's government stopped their players from travelling to India to take part in the IPL - the basis of the decision - though that situation is open to review and, possibly, to change given how quickly relations between the two countries fluctuate.

A BCCI official said the decision was a "precautionary" one. "We don't want a problem in the last minute... with so much money at stake, we don't want to take the risk of inviting a team when - as of now - it is clear that there will be political problems with visas, clearance," he said.

As well as the financial fallout - both team and home board are guaranteed a considerable sum - the move pushes Pakistan further to the margins of world cricket, given that domestic teams from all members (apart from Bangladesh and Zimbabwe) have also been invited to the tournament.

It is another sign possibly of how relations between the PCB and BCCI have cooled off considerably under the present Pakistan administration; though India's refusal to tour in January this year was a state-level decision, tensions have risen between the neighbours over the 2011 World Cup, with the BCCI believing the PCB was misguided in picking a legal fight with the ICC and the PCB believing India manipulated them out of hosting World Cup matches in Pakistan. In contrast, the previous PCB administration under Nasim Ashraf, had been accused, rather like Tony Blair to George Bush, of being India's puppet.

The PCB's own inaction has done nothing to ease the situation. The day after the decision was announced, a number of senior officials were contacted, none of whom had any coherent reply to the situation. One senior official didn't know what the Champions League was, while others referred the matter to the chairman, who simply referred it back.

A prickly relationship with the ICC will not help: the world's governing body isn't a stakeholder in the Champions League, but has sanctioned it and, according to Modi, set a window aside for it in the FTP. ICC members CA and CSA are founding members of the tournament and though they are among those who reiterate that they want to ensure Pakistan does not get isolated, this latest blow, in fact, achieves precisely the opposite.

Osman Samiuddin is Pakistan editor of Cricinfo

Comments have now been closed for this article

  • pvwadekar on May 28, 2009, 14:18 GMT

    This is a question to the Pakistani fans. Previously they claimed that the India and Sri Lanka are also unsafe for WC 2011, so it should be removed. Now they are very upset because they are not invited to play in the CL. What is your logic behind this anger ? Do u think expect us to believe that india is safe for CL and unsafe for WC 2011 ?. All this bickering and tit for tat attitiude, that the current PCB has, might make it more isolated in the cricket community. Pakistan in the past had some serious talent, but for it to flourish in the future it cannot pick up meaning less fights and antagonize others. The fans have to realize that unless india, sri lanka, bangaldesh tour pakistan no one else will. Ride out the storm (current problems in Swat valley) ,make your country better and secure(what happened to the terrorists who attacked the bus ?/ why not follow up ?) and people will come to play cricket. That's more important than hosting the WC otherwise cricket is doomed in pakistan.

  • reality_check on May 28, 2009, 13:12 GMT

    PCB is now playing into the hands of BCCI. It was OK to protest against the CWC decision and they had support from the fans but they are now just making a fool of themselves. Who cares about a 20/20 tournament sandwiched between IPL tamasha and 20/20 world cup. Best message Pakistan can send is to prepare and play hard in the upcoming 20/20 world cup and WIN IT. Then try to WIN the CWC in 2011 wherever the matches are played. Want to savour the reaction on Modi's face then win the CWC final held somewhere in India. This is how you get heard if no one is paying any attention to you. People attract towards winners and rich people. Last on the list are whiners. BCCI can keep it's money wherever it wants to as long as PCB is putting a check mark in the win column. Everyone will eventually come around as they would like to play the winners. Can someone from PCB please read this?

  • Cricket_Man on May 28, 2009, 9:31 GMT

    Its the moral responsibilty of Mr.Lalit Modi to ensure that no team is unjustly excluded from any of HIS cricketing events. If Pakistan cant play a small tournament such as the Champion's League how is it possible to ensure that the BCCI will allow them to play the many WORLD CUP 2011 matches in India ? Will Pakistan be excluded from the World Cup 2011 too ? Will the ICC keep on acting as a puppet or will it start acting like the INTERNATIONAL CRICKET COUNCIL rather than INDIAN CRICKET COUNCIL. ICC has taken the decison to strip Pakistan from hosting the World Cup so early . Now it needs to think and take a decison quickly about these dirty tactics from the people who want to exclude Pakistan from cricket .

  • SNaqvi on May 28, 2009, 8:36 GMT

    I think the best way to record the protest is to be silent. Let's wait and see the cricketing world already knew how much talent Pakistan have and we have produced great cricketers. SO let's play cricket whatever available to us and prove with your performance. Keep one more thing in mind ICC run cricketing affairs of the world and they need good playing nations to promote cricket in other parts of the world and they also cannot afford to stay Pakistan out of touch. This all is the game of profits maximization they also have their vested interests in Pakistan Cricket. So we need nothing but to play good cricket and also play with ICC and enjoy. This is ICC's loose wing. Cool minded approach is needed no emotional approaches are required to deal with the situation.

  • vrtego on May 28, 2009, 5:34 GMT

    chochotain: Firstly, it is not "World" Championship League, it is "Champions League". Maybe Pakistan must host its own Champions league tournament. What are they afraid of? Maybe deep inside they know that the only team that will show up is from Afghanistan? PCB and its ardent followers need to grow up and grow up fast.

  • chochotain on May 28, 2009, 2:03 GMT

    As of now they are not sure if the tournament will be held in India or not because of security concerns and yet they assumed that Pakistani will not be allowed to travel to india hence will not be included in the tournament. "With that much money on stake, we do not want last minute surprise" except the tournament location, very funny. Same thing happened in IPL. Pakistani were not included due travel restrictions to India but the matches were played in SA. Nobody would have an issue if you call it Indian champions league or may be Modi league. but when you call it a world champion league and promote it like an international event then you have to behave neutrally. It seems Pakistan still has not learnt about this mentality that her founders had learnt more than 100 years ago.

  • cricpolitics on May 27, 2009, 17:54 GMT

    Wasn't IPL enough for T20. There were 59 matches played in over month's period and now they are going to have a champions league for the same format. What the hell is going on in the cricket world. These meaning-less competitions will surely ruin the game of cricket and BCCI will surely be the main sponsor of it. How much more money you want to give to these already filthy rich players. This is simply sheer greed. I care less if Pakistan's team plays in this senseless competition or not.

  • bkhan420 on May 27, 2009, 16:39 GMT

    I feel like this situation is never going to get better, I really think India will continue to have nationalistic anger towards Pakistan government for the Mumbai bombings, because their tourism has suffered and it gave them a bad name. On the Pakistan side, they will always play politics, because they have no other choice, if they admit that their country isn't safe, then nobody will EVER tour there, at least not until the unwinnable war in Afghanistan is over. I feel like Javed Miandad should just shutup, he is not a spokesperson for PCB . And I also feel like Pakistan should not act like victims because cricketers could have been killed there, and they have nobody to blame but themselves and their security, period.

  • alyaly1 on May 27, 2009, 16:33 GMT

    To continue with my earlier comments regarding Cricket or any other international sporting events, it doesn't matter what cricketing boards of respective country says, the REAL decision to play sports between country lies not with sporting bodies but with government in power at that time. I know its a pity to involve politics with sports, but no matter how much sports fans says about keeping politics out of sports, in reality, these two entites can NEVER be separated. In all, it's the people of sporting nation including sports players who suffer by these political decisions. Just imagine what all those athletes went through their 4 years of hard work in training only to find out their government has made th decision NOT to send their country's best athletes to the Olymics. All that training and their dreams of winning a medal for themselves and their nation goes down the drain. So whatever Mr. Lalit Modi says regarding Pakistan, the real power lies with Mr. Sharad Pawar and not him.

  • PG83 on May 27, 2009, 16:33 GMT

    Mr Samiuddin needs to get over his soft corner for Pakistan cricket and explain to his undiscering Pakistani readers that this "isolation" is a result of their own morals and childish behaviour. They need to grow up and realize that no country is going to help and support them unconditionally, least of all the one who different characters from PCB and their govt trash talk everyday. Learn to EARN respect, self-pity and crying victimizatoin isn't going to cut it, and this jealousy of BCCI's money and clout is not going to help either. If they want to be a part of the Champions League and other BCCI initiatives, it's their prerogative to stop being so hostile and work towards a better relationship with the BCCI.

  • pvwadekar on May 28, 2009, 14:18 GMT

    This is a question to the Pakistani fans. Previously they claimed that the India and Sri Lanka are also unsafe for WC 2011, so it should be removed. Now they are very upset because they are not invited to play in the CL. What is your logic behind this anger ? Do u think expect us to believe that india is safe for CL and unsafe for WC 2011 ?. All this bickering and tit for tat attitiude, that the current PCB has, might make it more isolated in the cricket community. Pakistan in the past had some serious talent, but for it to flourish in the future it cannot pick up meaning less fights and antagonize others. The fans have to realize that unless india, sri lanka, bangaldesh tour pakistan no one else will. Ride out the storm (current problems in Swat valley) ,make your country better and secure(what happened to the terrorists who attacked the bus ?/ why not follow up ?) and people will come to play cricket. That's more important than hosting the WC otherwise cricket is doomed in pakistan.

  • reality_check on May 28, 2009, 13:12 GMT

    PCB is now playing into the hands of BCCI. It was OK to protest against the CWC decision and they had support from the fans but they are now just making a fool of themselves. Who cares about a 20/20 tournament sandwiched between IPL tamasha and 20/20 world cup. Best message Pakistan can send is to prepare and play hard in the upcoming 20/20 world cup and WIN IT. Then try to WIN the CWC in 2011 wherever the matches are played. Want to savour the reaction on Modi's face then win the CWC final held somewhere in India. This is how you get heard if no one is paying any attention to you. People attract towards winners and rich people. Last on the list are whiners. BCCI can keep it's money wherever it wants to as long as PCB is putting a check mark in the win column. Everyone will eventually come around as they would like to play the winners. Can someone from PCB please read this?

  • Cricket_Man on May 28, 2009, 9:31 GMT

    Its the moral responsibilty of Mr.Lalit Modi to ensure that no team is unjustly excluded from any of HIS cricketing events. If Pakistan cant play a small tournament such as the Champion's League how is it possible to ensure that the BCCI will allow them to play the many WORLD CUP 2011 matches in India ? Will Pakistan be excluded from the World Cup 2011 too ? Will the ICC keep on acting as a puppet or will it start acting like the INTERNATIONAL CRICKET COUNCIL rather than INDIAN CRICKET COUNCIL. ICC has taken the decison to strip Pakistan from hosting the World Cup so early . Now it needs to think and take a decison quickly about these dirty tactics from the people who want to exclude Pakistan from cricket .

  • SNaqvi on May 28, 2009, 8:36 GMT

    I think the best way to record the protest is to be silent. Let's wait and see the cricketing world already knew how much talent Pakistan have and we have produced great cricketers. SO let's play cricket whatever available to us and prove with your performance. Keep one more thing in mind ICC run cricketing affairs of the world and they need good playing nations to promote cricket in other parts of the world and they also cannot afford to stay Pakistan out of touch. This all is the game of profits maximization they also have their vested interests in Pakistan Cricket. So we need nothing but to play good cricket and also play with ICC and enjoy. This is ICC's loose wing. Cool minded approach is needed no emotional approaches are required to deal with the situation.

  • vrtego on May 28, 2009, 5:34 GMT

    chochotain: Firstly, it is not "World" Championship League, it is "Champions League". Maybe Pakistan must host its own Champions league tournament. What are they afraid of? Maybe deep inside they know that the only team that will show up is from Afghanistan? PCB and its ardent followers need to grow up and grow up fast.

  • chochotain on May 28, 2009, 2:03 GMT

    As of now they are not sure if the tournament will be held in India or not because of security concerns and yet they assumed that Pakistani will not be allowed to travel to india hence will not be included in the tournament. "With that much money on stake, we do not want last minute surprise" except the tournament location, very funny. Same thing happened in IPL. Pakistani were not included due travel restrictions to India but the matches were played in SA. Nobody would have an issue if you call it Indian champions league or may be Modi league. but when you call it a world champion league and promote it like an international event then you have to behave neutrally. It seems Pakistan still has not learnt about this mentality that her founders had learnt more than 100 years ago.

  • cricpolitics on May 27, 2009, 17:54 GMT

    Wasn't IPL enough for T20. There were 59 matches played in over month's period and now they are going to have a champions league for the same format. What the hell is going on in the cricket world. These meaning-less competitions will surely ruin the game of cricket and BCCI will surely be the main sponsor of it. How much more money you want to give to these already filthy rich players. This is simply sheer greed. I care less if Pakistan's team plays in this senseless competition or not.

  • bkhan420 on May 27, 2009, 16:39 GMT

    I feel like this situation is never going to get better, I really think India will continue to have nationalistic anger towards Pakistan government for the Mumbai bombings, because their tourism has suffered and it gave them a bad name. On the Pakistan side, they will always play politics, because they have no other choice, if they admit that their country isn't safe, then nobody will EVER tour there, at least not until the unwinnable war in Afghanistan is over. I feel like Javed Miandad should just shutup, he is not a spokesperson for PCB . And I also feel like Pakistan should not act like victims because cricketers could have been killed there, and they have nobody to blame but themselves and their security, period.

  • alyaly1 on May 27, 2009, 16:33 GMT

    To continue with my earlier comments regarding Cricket or any other international sporting events, it doesn't matter what cricketing boards of respective country says, the REAL decision to play sports between country lies not with sporting bodies but with government in power at that time. I know its a pity to involve politics with sports, but no matter how much sports fans says about keeping politics out of sports, in reality, these two entites can NEVER be separated. In all, it's the people of sporting nation including sports players who suffer by these political decisions. Just imagine what all those athletes went through their 4 years of hard work in training only to find out their government has made th decision NOT to send their country's best athletes to the Olymics. All that training and their dreams of winning a medal for themselves and their nation goes down the drain. So whatever Mr. Lalit Modi says regarding Pakistan, the real power lies with Mr. Sharad Pawar and not him.

  • PG83 on May 27, 2009, 16:33 GMT

    Mr Samiuddin needs to get over his soft corner for Pakistan cricket and explain to his undiscering Pakistani readers that this "isolation" is a result of their own morals and childish behaviour. They need to grow up and realize that no country is going to help and support them unconditionally, least of all the one who different characters from PCB and their govt trash talk everyday. Learn to EARN respect, self-pity and crying victimizatoin isn't going to cut it, and this jealousy of BCCI's money and clout is not going to help either. If they want to be a part of the Champions League and other BCCI initiatives, it's their prerogative to stop being so hostile and work towards a better relationship with the BCCI.

  • Ulio on May 27, 2009, 16:30 GMT

    I had to comment here.

    1. Pakistan Govt says India is not a safe place to visit and pulls out their players from IPL 2 at the very last moment. With all due respect and honesty INDIA is 100x safer than Pakistan, please my Pakistani friends read Newspaper why you guys act like nothing is happening.

    2. Miandad says IPL is joke everything is fixed and it is not cricket. Then they are still talking about champions league.

    3. CL has a lot money invested in it, Modi cannot afford another late pull out. If it bothers Pakistan then they should start their own league.

    4. This tournament is organized by Modi and he has money invested in it, if you are unhappy with it like SRK said to Gavaskar, go get your own team, I say to PCB start your own League, if you are unhappy about everything start your own league and do what you want.

    This CL is organized by Modi he can do what he want.

    If it bothers you, start your own or just don't watch it. PERIOD

  • alyaly1 on May 27, 2009, 16:20 GMT

    I think you're all missing THE point. Cricket, as all international sports, is subject to government regulation. Back in 1969 when Vorster's government in South Africa refused to play England because Basil D'Olivera - a coloured person - was in England side, Harold Wilson's government made a tit-for-tat refusal to play S.A. When BJP was in power in India in the 1990s, Uma Bharti, their sports minister, made a political decision not to play Pakistan for whatever reason. After the Mumbai attacks, NPA-Congress alliance made a similar decision not to play Pakistan for security reasons - whatever they were. But the bottom line here is the ALL international sporting events are subject to politcal ramifications of the respective governments. Jimmy Carter made the similar decision to boycott the Russian Olympics in 1980 after Soviets invaded Afghanistan. So whatever BCCI, PCB, ACA, cricketing boards says, it just does NOT matter! Its their government's call and not theirs. Sincerely, Saif Aly.

  • Viktor on May 27, 2009, 16:03 GMT

    i think the problem is Miandad - great batsman but who made him an administrator ? better to realise that the BCCI controls world cricket rather than fighting it. you will try and loose. It is not fair - but then a lot of things in the world is not fair. Pakistan needs to first sort out its problems before going around blaming everyone else for them. does not help that miandad is also related to the most wanted man in india.

  • mr.cruizy on May 27, 2009, 15:42 GMT

    Mr.Osman u r doing exactly the same thing s BCCI is doing i.e u only publish/accept comments made by our indian fellows and not what we are trying to post.

    any ways all i have to say is to Mr.OSMAN is to wake up please and start realizing things and accept it as they are.

    face it, BCCI is not a friend and they r not helping pakistan cricket at all.

    but one day i m sure that pakistan crciket will b more demanding than any other and PCB will have their say.

    but i fell bad for PCB as they r the one who created ACC and now being left all alone on their own. very sad and very very bad indeed.

    God help PCB..

  • rahulsaxena on May 27, 2009, 15:39 GMT

    I've read all the comments and Sir, the people criticizing you and India are just being a bit harsh. PCB and the Pakistan government's hostile policy towards India is to blame for this mess. The moment someone thinks he is indispensable, life levels him up. A similar situation is taking place in Pakistan. And to be fair to Lalit Modi, you can't blame him. No one would like to invest crores of rupees and see a team pull out at the last minute. Rather than wasting time playing politics on the issue, Pakistan needs to get diplomacy at work coz things can get worse. The fact that Pakistan, Bangladesh & Zimbabwe are the only full-members not invited in the CL shows where they stand today and I request my Pakistani friends to stop criticizing India at every given opportunity. Thanks

  • Basoo on May 27, 2009, 15:37 GMT

    I don't know why my post was not published, the point here is as a cricket fan we will miss good cricket because of this politics of letting each other down. People of each country loves cricket and loves the cricket being played between the two countries, keeping out pakistani team will only hurt cricket loving people.

    I will suggest to Modi to please keep the cricket away from Politics and just focus on cricket only.

    Thanks

  • ajaydesai on May 27, 2009, 15:35 GMT

    It seems BCCI is taking all major decisions in cricketing world. Champions league should be authorized by ICC and not BCCI as BCCI is dominating the cricket and takes decisions which will spilt cricketing world in future.

  • JohnnyRook on May 27, 2009, 15:15 GMT

    yskhanpak, How can you expect Indian team to come to Pakistan after Mumbai attacks. Plus, do you really think Pak has any right to expect other teams to tour after attack on Sri Lankan team. Poor souls, what did they get for their good gesture which you are expecting from India. Not even a bullet proof bus. As far as having a neutral host for Pak matches in world cup is concerned, even now Pak is the host. Other countries are just filling in like Dubai. PCB doesn't want Dubai option because of logistical issues and gate money being higher in India than Dubai. Roamer, I agree that Champion's League should be an ICC intiative with all the club teams, but if ICC doesn't organize such an event, you can't blame BCCI for organizing it with whatever is available.

  • Fuuu on May 27, 2009, 14:19 GMT

    I would agree with Mr Roamer. It seems that Mr Modi is running a one man show and ICC should not have allowed this to happen. Mr Modi or people like Mr Modi are not capable of understanding that sometimes you have to think beyond money and show gesture of goodwill in wider interest of the game......ICC wake up please!!!!!!

  • Jupiter_Uranus on May 27, 2009, 14:15 GMT

    I do not know why people are bringing politics into this. The problem is clear: The Pak govt has not lifted its ban on it players travelling to India. It is common sense not to invite some one who can not show up.

    It has nothing to do with BCCI, PCB, ICC. Its Pak govt.

    On a different note: since director general of PCB Miandad thinks that IPL (and T20)is a joke and all matches are fixed, why would Pakistanis want to be part of such sin.

  • guru008 on May 27, 2009, 14:13 GMT

    What do the Pakistan admin expect ? Do they keep expecting India to be nice to them when they keep being hostile .Just few days back they were telling the whole world that India is against them , manipulated the decision of ICC to remove them from world cup hosts etc etc. They even asked the entire tournament to be shifted out of sub continent. I fully agree that BCCi decision. If they want to be treated well - they better learn to treat others same way.

  • yskhanpak on May 27, 2009, 13:56 GMT

    To Indian Friends. Please go back to year 1999, when pakistan was due to arrive in India and there was threat From Some Political Parties in India that they will Kill Pakistani players, Also what they did to Delhi Pitch, but Pakistan team show the courage and visit India to make a good gesture.

    Regarding Pakistan Removal as World Cup you all should realize that India played his part here, India shouldn't have taken quota of pakistan matches, instead they should have pushed ICC for neutral Venue Where pakistan can get benefit. It was not Pakistan who denied Going to India, It was Indian government who cancelled Indian Team Tour in respone to that Pakistani Govt Refused it's Player for IPL(which matches don't have One Day status, i.e its a seperate record count for players)

    I will Request Indian's And Indian Board here to don't fly to high that you or your team would get too Low In Future and then Australians And English will start targeting you again.

  • Roamer on May 27, 2009, 12:55 GMT

    Thanks for publishing my comment on the third attempt, I dont know why the first two were ignored and not published. First of all Champions league should be a tournament organized by ICC not BCCI, just like in Hockey the top teams participate in that tournament irrespective of the name of the country, so the top team from each country should participate ... or if they take the eg. of European Champions league even they take the best teams from europe, they dont exclude a country not based upon the whims of one person called Lalit Modi.

    As for the security of the champions league or Champions trophy in hockey, if majority of the teams are not satisfied with the security then the tournament is moved out from that country and if one country is not happy then after a deadline it will be replaced by the next country but atleast that country is asked and given a deadline, its not one person (Modi) who should decide. Dont forget Aussies just backed out of Davis cup tie in India !!

  • cskd on May 27, 2009, 12:38 GMT

    I thought Miandad said T-20 and IPL are a joke. Why do they want to play in CL now? Mr Roamer if pakistani players cannot play in India then should we replace them in the world cup with Afghanistan or canada?

  • JayPmorgan on May 27, 2009, 12:31 GMT

    I think a lot of people are missing the point here : It is not the reason that a Pakistani team will not be going is the issue. The issue is that Lalit Modi says that the Pakistani goverment WON'T give then security clearance. This is not factually incorrect. What he should have said is that "we anticipate there will we security issues and therefore are NOT inviting a Pakistani team to attend". You can't blame them for not asking Pakistan to attend as there is too much money at stake. But I do believe that in the past year or so cricket has really lost its soul. IPL2 for me was a real let down . Most of the cricket was of poor quality and we were not even watching the best players in the world at this type of cricket. This champions league will have a novelty factor for first year and then thats it . I wouldn't grieve too much Pakistani Cricket fans

  • Rahulkumar24 on May 27, 2009, 12:13 GMT

    Hi guys..i really thinks its a very good decisions to boycott PCB from CL. Just 2months back they were shouting India is not a safe place to play , and now again they are complaining that India didn't asked them to play in CL. First of all they should decide what for they are complaining. As they have not been included in Cl or just they want to complain whatever India does. They will never complain against their govt. But always ready to complain against India. Now India is organizing Cl , so its upto India whom to invite ....you just can't beg to India.

  • abhijitab on May 27, 2009, 12:12 GMT

    Once should remember that historically BCCI has always supported PCB (and for that matter all other Asian boards). Even though recently these relations have deteriorated; BCCI is not fool to exclude PCB unnecessarily and lose the opportunity to make that extra money while at the same time popularize the new format on which they banking their future. It seems only motivation behind excluding PCB is to remove any uncertainty behind the Champions league which has already seen enough controversy. you don't want to get entangled in all broadcasting and sponsorship disputes if PCB pulls out at the last moment.

  • Roamer on May 27, 2009, 12:08 GMT

    Why Indian supporters comments have been published ?!?!

    Somebody should ask if this is a predicament then the world cup should also be moved away as Pakistani players will not be allowed to play in India ? So ICC wake up !! move the world cup away from the subcontinent .... Enough of double standards please !!

  • praneeth123 on May 27, 2009, 11:24 GMT

    The Govt of pakistan should have made a statement, that players are allowed or not to travel to india .why blame modi if the govt is not clear on the issue

  • TwitterJitter on May 27, 2009, 11:12 GMT

    The current PCB setup came to power criticizing the old one of being too cozy with BCCI and started making public statements criticizing BCCI in the media and elsewhere. BCCI quietly stopped supporting/backing them at the ICC and the result was a) Oval test decision was overturned. b) champions trophy taken away c) world cup matches moved out d) no invitation to play in CLT20. There was not much support for PCB on these issues by any of the other member boards especially on first three issues. But BCCI was successful in persuading other Asian country boards to hold their noses and back Pakistan on these issues which disappeared once the new PCB director-general like Miandad were itching to get into a fight with BCCI. It is better for PCB to get an administration that is working more behind the scenes to develop good will with all the boards, including BCCI, and make less and less public statements accusing everyone of conspiracy. Good diplomacy works.

  • AutoBotsXI on May 27, 2009, 11:03 GMT

    With so much money involved and looking at pakistan history of changing decision at last moment, I see as right decision.. Also why pakistan want to send their local team in champions trophy when they've clearly mentioned that no pakistan player will travel in india.. Pakistan get a life, Think a bit...

  • VipinWalter on May 27, 2009, 10:54 GMT

    With terrorist attacks on Cricketers politics has become part of Cricket. It is very unfortunate that we fans have to miss our stars from tournaments. I am an Indian and always have appreciated Pakistani players for their guts and commitment for the team. It would be nice to see even a quarter of that vigor in their politicians, to eradicate terrorism from this beautiful Country, instead of their only intentions for personal gains.

  • RandomTalk on May 27, 2009, 10:13 GMT

    Osman, while I agree that the latest series of events will unfortunately marginalise Pakistani cricket, some blame should also be attributed to the PCB for their refusal to send players to the IPL in India. When the tournament was moved to SA, they retracted their decision, by which time, it was too late. Given the instability of Indo-Pak relations, Modi has perhaps pre-empted a likely scenario, that the PCB may well decide not to send their players to India closer the time of the tournament, albeit, due to political pressure. Pakistani players would certainly have enlivened and enriched the tournament, and I would have loved to see them play in India again. However, there are no guarantees...unless PCB can provide one.

  • vswami on May 27, 2009, 9:35 GMT

    PCB needs to realise that sponsors are sinking big money into a tournament such as CL and you cant be playing a game of I will, I wont till the last minute. As a businessman with responsibility towards the sponsors, surely you dont want the headache. PCB has taken no initiative whatsoever since the government banned its players from coming to India, to remove the ban. If thats the level of indifference PCB has, whats ICC or BCCI supposed to do. Anyway PCB thinks T20 is a joke, and all the matches are fixed. Then its best to stay away, isnt it ?

  • chawlaaaa on May 27, 2009, 8:59 GMT

    One day we will look back at these days and remember them as END OF DAYS of Cricket. I am sure Gilchrist must have cheered this moment more than winning worldcups with Australia (he might not admit on face, but the fact most of players are willing to get retired from international duties for IPL supports my statement). Everytime good cricketers play cricket it is always memorable, the quantity destroys the quality!!! no one remembers how, who won the matches last year ....everyone still talks about Sharjah cup because of the rare competition you watch..perfect war between ball and bat comes after years of waiting and that too happens for few matches. Modi is talking about two IPLs now GOD SAVE CRICKET's original lovely format True battle between ball and bat.... where bowlers had some respect! where it was more of ART and not LUCK! where just big-hitters like YUVRAJ SINGH, Imran nazir, McCullum had no respect! Pakistan deserved this isolation - because their management had no long term plans

  • longnose on May 27, 2009, 8:18 GMT

    Sorry, Osman,, Modi's decision in a way reflects Indian public opinion. No body I know here is really gung ho hosting players from your country. Am sure you know the reason why.pakistan cricket is exciting but the Indian public hardly cares a damn.

  • ImranRKhan on May 27, 2009, 8:13 GMT

    yes they (PCB and BCCI) should meet and solve the matters because as a fan seeing all international players in this years IPL I am very much disapointed by not having Pakistani players in IPL, please sat aside the politics from the game I think political condition was same since 1947 and it will not solve completely. If BCCI refused Indian team to come Pakistan in January Pakistan should allow their players to play for IPL because someone has to take step and make the game beautiful as it was.

  • Rajit on May 27, 2009, 6:35 GMT

    I think PCB's leadership is weak and when I say weak they needn't show their strenght by shouting in the media.Instead they need a leader who has good PR skills and can create a healthy relationship with all cricket boards including ICC and BCCI.PCB administrators are doing no good to Pakistan cricket,its talented cricketers and millions of fans by making silly remarks in the media.They need soneone like Ramiz Raja as CEO

  • Sampdoria on May 27, 2009, 5:40 GMT

    Pakistani cricket fans should not join the double-standard ranks of the PCB and their government. PCB director-general Miandad called the IPL a joke with lots of match fixing. Why oh why should a Puritan team from Pakistan then need to be dragged into a filthy contest of this nature?

    Please my friends, stop getting sentimental and fix whats wrong with your board. I personally missed Pakistan players in the IPL so please get your government and board to get things right rather than looking ridiculous with weak posts.

  • IndiaGoats on May 27, 2009, 4:51 GMT

    And we have Miandad complaining that this cannot be called a Champions league because champions from all test-playing countries are not playing. When the USA boycotted the 1980 Olympics, did they not call it Olympics? When Pakistan government is boycotting (by refusing to send their players to India), why should there be any difference then?

  • IndiaGoats on May 27, 2009, 4:43 GMT

    I don't know why Pakistani fans are so upset. They elect a government that refuses to let their players play in India and now they are complaining about BCCI, IPL, Modi and everyone else other than their own government. There is no rule that everybody needs to invite everybody for their parties, especially if the potential invitees don't want to come.

  • CricFan78 on May 27, 2009, 4:43 GMT

    I seriously dont understand position of PCB and Pakistan cricket fans. Few days back they were saying that they wont play World Cup matches in India since it is not safe for them and now they are getting annoyed that a Pakistan team is not being invited to play in India. Please stick to one stance at least :-)

  • cricbytes on May 27, 2009, 4:25 GMT

    I think the idea of champions league is to organize a tournament like in football where winners from all the domestic leagues of different countries compete with each other. But here BCCI and Modi clears their intentions to isolate Pakistan. How Can this be called champions league if the Major Cricketing Nations team is not included.

  • SaudSami on May 27, 2009, 4:16 GMT

    ICC must not set aside a slot in the future tours program for CL unless it receives a guarantee from CA, CSA and BCCI that all test playing nations will be involved. Fair and Simple.

  • KTiwari on May 27, 2009, 3:43 GMT

    This place can surely provide some entertainment till CL starts... :) Lot them have suggest here that PCB should know who their friends are and who their foes are...but I don't know what they can do with that knowledge....

  • TheRightGame on May 27, 2009, 3:38 GMT

    Champions League is a tournament sponsored by the Indians and it is India's prerogative whom to invite and whom to not.

    Given the current political situation between the two countries I think it makes sense not to invite a Pakistani team. Things have to settle down first between the two countries before sporting ties between the two nations resume.

    VN

  • TwitterJitter on May 27, 2009, 3:04 GMT

    I thought PCB director-general, Javed Miandad, recently mentioned that IPL was a joke with all its matches are fixed, and that ICC should step in and stop BCCI from running IPL. Now why are people upset that their team has not been invited to a competition that is an offshoot of this other competition that is a joke with many of its matches fixed? Surely PCB would not like to send its team to such a competition now, would it?

  • Junaid_Rana on May 27, 2009, 3:01 GMT

    In my opinion this is the weak stance of PCB especially the weak leadership shown by the chairman of PCB as compared to his successor. Nasim Ashraf was at least strong representative of PCB in all the meetings like getting the ICC to come to the conclusion of drawing the oval test was one of his success. I personally think that all these things are happening just because of weak Chairman ... just imagine would any of these thing could have happened if Imran Khan was the chairman?

  • cricpower on May 27, 2009, 2:38 GMT

    (1)Pakistan didn't allow their players to participate in the IPL and created a little problem for the IPL teams who had selected their players. On that note, BCCI is right to hold a little grudge against them. It will at least make them think twice the next time they (pcb/govt) do something like that.

    (2)As an Indian fan, I never thought that I would enjoy Australia vs India Test series more than India vs Pakistan but that's the reality. Pak people/cricketers/pcb/govt really need to step up and clean up their act first. The pakistani cricketers should also show how much they value playing for their country if they want to be taken seriously.

    I would still love to watch Akhtar bowling for Bengal but maybe in a better world.

  • Saibaskar on May 27, 2009, 2:12 GMT

    I think the comments are very unfair. Do you expect Indian cricket board to plan a tournament with Pakistani team in it and then face loses because Pakistani government finds India to be "unsafe". Pakistani players lost out IPL earnings because its government refused to let them play in India. What is the gaurantee that this will not happen again? Let Pakistani government come up with a statement finding India to be safe then i guess Indian cricket board would find it easy to accomadate a team from Pakistan. As far as BCCI is concerned the ball is still in Pakistan's court.

  • QUDSI on May 26, 2009, 22:16 GMT

    as long as their will be a rift between these two subcontinent countries, the cricket cannot prosper in that area of the world. when the IPL started everyone was excited but when people(pakistani) got to know that Pakistani players are not playing, 90% of them showed disinterest including Pakistani's living outside subcontinent.

  • Asmax on May 26, 2009, 19:17 GMT

    Chill out guys, save the energy for some good blogs when this CL will be on. You all have to be in the blogs booing CL, only lesson learned for PCB should be to put your country first and then promote friendships. I think I don't have to say that just not bother watching where ever it takes place.

  • MoeedA on May 26, 2009, 19:06 GMT

    Its really sad that no team from Pakistan would paly. but it doesn't matter Pakistani is the best 2020 team in the world.

  • SinSpider on May 26, 2009, 16:55 GMT

    Well, I can understand why Pakistani fans are upset. Being an Indian I am upset too that I cannot see some fantastic Pakistani players. I am sure, BCCI will make less money if they exclude Pakistan from the tournament. So it is not money. Then what is it? Political scenario? If yes, why complain? If because of political situations Pak govt refused to send its players to IPL, why should BCCI invite Pak players under the same grounds?

    Also, it is very naive from PCB to say that they did not know about the Champions League, or about the deadlines. If PCB did not receive any communication from BCCI, why did they not declare it earlier?

  • Vkarthik on May 26, 2009, 16:14 GMT

    It is not a regular international series. It is between clubs. So Modi can invited whoever he wants. Storm in a cup of tea.

  • KTiwari on May 26, 2009, 16:06 GMT

    Another place for anti-India,anit-BCCI, and anti-Lalit Modi. Blame everyone for your problem but never look at what is wrong with you. That sums up PCB and the amount of support they have here makes me believe that they can continue like this for a long time.

  • illusionist on May 26, 2009, 15:07 GMT

    This article is very much reflecting the truth about what is happening in the cricket world.but the point is if you are not including the team from pakistan then credibility of champions league also suffers. As it stands sialkot stallions (current champions of pakistan) is the number world team in the world in t20. Pakistan can reply to these type of tactics to isolate pakistan from world cricket by wining this years world cup T20, that would be a slap on the faces of people who want to isolate pakistan cricket. Also pakistan can arrange it's own champions league in dubai or in england that would include only the champions of all cricketing nations domestic t20 champions and not the runner's up.

  • Adnan_80 on May 26, 2009, 15:01 GMT

    Even if ICC is not a stake holder but still it is responsible to monitor if any one is involve in act to disintegrate the cricketing world. I have also written an email to ICC addressing Mr. Lorgat on the exclusion of Pakistani team on Champions League but no action observed yet. I was reading the Book on the life of Hitler and his view was that " Might is Right" is never ending law of this world and now I must say he was right. We should all condemn this approach of BCCI.

  • JohnnyRook on May 26, 2009, 14:54 GMT

    I can understand why Lalit Modi has taken this decision. Champions League is not happening during Indian elections. So it will most probably be happening in India. Pakistan govt barred its players from taking part in IPL when it was in India. If it does that in the Champions League too, it will cause too much of losses. Pak players could be replaced with foreign players in IPL. A whole Pak team can't be replace that easily. I feel bad about Pakistani fans, but why should BCCI suffer losses or possibility of losses for them. Thats the job of PCB and Pak government. At the end of the day, CL is a business venture cum sports tourno conceived by BCCI. If they want a team of monkeys and donkeys playing in it, they have every right to do so. Only thing we the people can do is to switch off our televisions.

  • kashmd on May 26, 2009, 14:49 GMT

    oh come on Mr. Samiuddin, open up ur eyes. A seasoned writer like you who disappointed in ur last column already a lot still trying to keep finding the problems in PCB. first this is the first time PCB took a brave decision to fight i dont care even if its emotional but u criticized now we are paying the price for this being omitted from the money making mockery of champs league and u still being a supporter of BCCI. you and kamran abbasi are the only representation for pakistanis around the world and if u both keep concentrating on our mistakes then that happens when one of writers at cricinfo compared karachi big scoring match to the pitch drama in anitgua test bw WI and Eng. please i request u that in these suffering times of paki nation try to be atleast a vocalist for pakistan.

    Kashif Anwar, M.D.

  • springonion on May 26, 2009, 14:47 GMT

    Z.Saleem has a good point on Sialkot being a strong team, and I'm sure Modi's ego could not possibly take one of his beloved IPL teams being ousted by a Pakistani team. The Champions League idea itself is nonsensical, the IPL itself is almost like a Champions League with its big name players, and the idea of it is made even more ludicrous by the fact that a player could be from two teams competing. The idea obviously steams from football's UEFA Champions League, but that is based on the idea of two-legged ties with home and away travel, which adds to the lustre of the tournament. I love Twenty20 cricket, but this is overkill and this is a fine example of politics entering it and severely tarnishing the game. Grow up, Modi.

  • mo1971 on May 26, 2009, 14:42 GMT

    world cricket is bending over backwards to such an extent for lalit modi why dont they just all retire stop at the icc,cancel all international matches and just make him(lalit modi) take over all world cricket matches money rights and whatever other marketing powers he thinks up- honestly its a laughable situation already

  • Knightriders_suck on May 26, 2009, 14:40 GMT

    Current PCB management has understood that fighting the whole world will marginalize them further. It's like a quagmire the more you fight, more you sink. They have taken the correct approach by not commenting on this.

    After accusing BCCI of being prime mover of taking the world cup away does this surprise anyone? This was an expected move and till PCB softens it stance towards BCCI/ICC(well aren't both same anyway). I do not see any overtures being made towards Pakistan cricket (except the lip service of course).

  • Bolivarian-Alternative on May 26, 2009, 14:39 GMT

    Good, I say. Forget about these inconsequential T20 circuses and focus on real skills.

  • JayPmorgan on May 26, 2009, 14:35 GMT

    The BCCI was a 'fair weather' friend of the PCB. They only needed PCB whilst their vote was important on ICC related matters. Now that BCCI are bigger than ICC they don't need them. This is a reality of life. Look at the USA , you are only 'allies' and 'friends' until needed. However I do believe Mr Modi should have had the guts to state that Pak team was not invited as there is too much money at stake and they could not risk any uncertainty. A shame really , as the Pakistani team would have no doubt been one of the stronger teams.

  • nad-1 on May 26, 2009, 14:31 GMT

    look , doesnt really matter , champions league will be a flop big time

    it doesnt matter that Pakistan sends a team there , but Pakistan cricket board needs to keep it in mind that indian board is not its friend!

    there is no need to worry, Pakistan just needs to pull of a big tournament win thats all , answer em in cricketing terms

    and then the 'world champions' should refuse to play india !! that would be the perfect answer

  • Alex72 on May 26, 2009, 14:26 GMT

    The decision is clear and straight forward for two reasons:

    1)There is a clear ban on Pakistani players playing in the IPL by Pakistan government. Unless this ban is lifted Pakistani's can not play in leagues in India. Pakistanis should blame themselves for not getting invited. 2) Even if the ban is lifted by the Pakistan government at this late stage, the Pakistani club could be denied an invitation as retaliation for boycotting IPL2.

  • sameeullah on May 26, 2009, 14:25 GMT

    This is obvious that India is trying to isolate pakistan.but i think that is natural.both countries have been fighting each other since 60+ years.and now india has power in world of cricket and india is using it.With all the money india is also combined by other nations too.if i were captain of pakistan team i would not have minded theese actions because indian are not angels.i would have said my team that form now for two years i don't want to lose tournament and series.we would rise our cricket standards as the world follow us and without us the world cricket sound like blank whole.the best answer to world and india will be performing at the field.then every sponsor will want us in tournament.then no one can isolate us.Rise Pakistan don't wait for other to help.common help yourself.this is world where one can kill other for money.

  • AbhinavR on May 26, 2009, 14:21 GMT

    @ Nemos_eleven. "Ignoring Pakistan players for IPL was also part of this anti-Pakistan campaign by Indians"

    I'm sure you love to hate India, but sorry - it was the Pakistani government that didn't allow your players to participate in the IPL. Get your facts right before you slag people off.

  • abhijithsimha on May 26, 2009, 14:18 GMT

    This is in fact the correct decision taken by Mr.Modi, even if Pakistan government allows its players to tour India, the various organizations in India would strongly oppose this move, and might even be a problem security wise. So if omitting a Pakistani Team ensures smaller security problems, i ll take it any day, and any how the pakistani players are no Crowd pullers, definitely not in India.

  • skn007 on May 26, 2009, 14:03 GMT

    PCB Cheif Miandad ridicules IPL saying that its a Joke. Where was he last year when Pakistan players were also playing the IPL?

  • Sohail_Anwer on May 26, 2009, 13:59 GMT

    It's just that India cannot provide enough security to the Pakistani team from extremists living in their country, that's why IPL was played is SA and that is the only reason that a dozen self created terrorists killed 180 civilians and continued to do so for 3 days and could not be stopped by a useless force of over million. It's as simple as that, if India thinks that it could isolate Pakistan from international cricket, forget about it. Next year they won't even be hosting the champions league and a country that could provide security will be there to host and Pakistan will be their guests. It's as Simple as that.

  • usher on May 26, 2009, 13:53 GMT

    If BCCI do want to isolate Pakistan (which by the way is completely understandable) then why not say it out loud instead of making different lame excuses about it at different times ?

    Why all this last minute haphazard efforts of putting a friendly face to a hostile action anyway?

    Why all this Hypocrisy anyway?

  • Nemos_Eleven on May 26, 2009, 13:42 GMT

    Osman how can you blame PCB for this? I do agree PCB is not being run properly but this omission of a Pakistani club from the champions league is another step to isolate Pakistan as much as possible. We as fans of Pakistan cricket are very disappointed in ICC for its cold attitude towards Pakistan. Ignoring Pakistan players for IPL was also part of this anti-Pakistan campaign by Indians and this will not go down well in Pakistan and will not help the relations between the two countries at all. I'm amazed how other countries are so quiet about all this. I hope we win the T20 world cup and show the world that what sort of players they are missing in these tournaments and what is the point of a T20 tournament when the best players in the world are not playing in it?

  • cricpolitics on May 26, 2009, 13:37 GMT

    If anyone is still thinking that BCCI is PCB's friend they are living in fool's world. It's about time that PCB must recignize who their foes and friends are.

  • RAFED on May 26, 2009, 13:27 GMT

    Lalit Modi loves India for sure...he loves cricket too....but since he's also an important person in ICC, he should make it fair for everyone because good spirit and equality should not be shown only on the field...but also outside the field...or else a case like this would occur more often ....sad to say..

  • AHappyMind on May 26, 2009, 13:05 GMT

    Sounds fair enough.

    "We don't want a problem in the last minute... with so much money at stake, we don't want to take the risk of inviting a team when - as of now - it is clear that there will be political problems with visas, clearance,": from a businessman's point of view, that makes sense.

    But I feel sorry for Pakistan as it had it's reputation tarnished due to terrorists. No one should isolate them because then the terrorists win. I mean we have to be realistic: no country should tour Pakistan for the next 5 years (at least) but should never try to isolate them. Neutral venues sound good. The Pakistanis need the entertainment to carry them through these tough times.

  • Nadzzz on May 26, 2009, 13:04 GMT

    Clearly India want Pakistan outside from Int'l cricket, and with so much money BCCI will keep on bullying CA & CBSA & other minors. It's no rocket science :).

  • satsi00 on May 26, 2009, 12:49 GMT

    Well I cant understand why is everyone trying to isolate Pakistan from the cricketing world. The authorities should understand that politics and sports are two different things all together. I can understand teams not going to tour Pakistan because of security reasons but the ouster of the Pakistani domestic champion from this tournament is really surprising and as a cricket fan it hurts me a lot. I sincerely hope that the ICC ensures that Pakistan cricket does not lose out on future matches on all these grounds.

  • Z.Saleem on May 26, 2009, 12:39 GMT

    The BCCI have taken the 'Sailkot' team out as they knew they are strong competitors....and I can assure you, seeing the current situation in South Asia that this Champions League will not take place in India, and they will shift it to a neutral venue like the IPL. They just wanted to throw out the Team from Pakistan (due to their political relations) which I think is unfair.

  • Abid_Khan14 on May 26, 2009, 12:37 GMT

    Why doesn't some Bangladeshi domestic teams play in this?

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  • Abid_Khan14 on May 26, 2009, 12:37 GMT

    Why doesn't some Bangladeshi domestic teams play in this?

  • Z.Saleem on May 26, 2009, 12:39 GMT

    The BCCI have taken the 'Sailkot' team out as they knew they are strong competitors....and I can assure you, seeing the current situation in South Asia that this Champions League will not take place in India, and they will shift it to a neutral venue like the IPL. They just wanted to throw out the Team from Pakistan (due to their political relations) which I think is unfair.

  • satsi00 on May 26, 2009, 12:49 GMT

    Well I cant understand why is everyone trying to isolate Pakistan from the cricketing world. The authorities should understand that politics and sports are two different things all together. I can understand teams not going to tour Pakistan because of security reasons but the ouster of the Pakistani domestic champion from this tournament is really surprising and as a cricket fan it hurts me a lot. I sincerely hope that the ICC ensures that Pakistan cricket does not lose out on future matches on all these grounds.

  • Nadzzz on May 26, 2009, 13:04 GMT

    Clearly India want Pakistan outside from Int'l cricket, and with so much money BCCI will keep on bullying CA & CBSA & other minors. It's no rocket science :).

  • AHappyMind on May 26, 2009, 13:05 GMT

    Sounds fair enough.

    "We don't want a problem in the last minute... with so much money at stake, we don't want to take the risk of inviting a team when - as of now - it is clear that there will be political problems with visas, clearance,": from a businessman's point of view, that makes sense.

    But I feel sorry for Pakistan as it had it's reputation tarnished due to terrorists. No one should isolate them because then the terrorists win. I mean we have to be realistic: no country should tour Pakistan for the next 5 years (at least) but should never try to isolate them. Neutral venues sound good. The Pakistanis need the entertainment to carry them through these tough times.

  • RAFED on May 26, 2009, 13:27 GMT

    Lalit Modi loves India for sure...he loves cricket too....but since he's also an important person in ICC, he should make it fair for everyone because good spirit and equality should not be shown only on the field...but also outside the field...or else a case like this would occur more often ....sad to say..

  • cricpolitics on May 26, 2009, 13:37 GMT

    If anyone is still thinking that BCCI is PCB's friend they are living in fool's world. It's about time that PCB must recignize who their foes and friends are.

  • Nemos_Eleven on May 26, 2009, 13:42 GMT

    Osman how can you blame PCB for this? I do agree PCB is not being run properly but this omission of a Pakistani club from the champions league is another step to isolate Pakistan as much as possible. We as fans of Pakistan cricket are very disappointed in ICC for its cold attitude towards Pakistan. Ignoring Pakistan players for IPL was also part of this anti-Pakistan campaign by Indians and this will not go down well in Pakistan and will not help the relations between the two countries at all. I'm amazed how other countries are so quiet about all this. I hope we win the T20 world cup and show the world that what sort of players they are missing in these tournaments and what is the point of a T20 tournament when the best players in the world are not playing in it?

  • usher on May 26, 2009, 13:53 GMT

    If BCCI do want to isolate Pakistan (which by the way is completely understandable) then why not say it out loud instead of making different lame excuses about it at different times ?

    Why all this last minute haphazard efforts of putting a friendly face to a hostile action anyway?

    Why all this Hypocrisy anyway?

  • Sohail_Anwer on May 26, 2009, 13:59 GMT

    It's just that India cannot provide enough security to the Pakistani team from extremists living in their country, that's why IPL was played is SA and that is the only reason that a dozen self created terrorists killed 180 civilians and continued to do so for 3 days and could not be stopped by a useless force of over million. It's as simple as that, if India thinks that it could isolate Pakistan from international cricket, forget about it. Next year they won't even be hosting the champions league and a country that could provide security will be there to host and Pakistan will be their guests. It's as Simple as that.