Champions League Twenty20 2010 April 27, 2010

No English counties in Champions League Twenty20

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English county teams will not play in the Champions League Twenty20 this year because the tournament dates - September 10 to 26 - clashes with the end of England's domestic season.

The ECB conveyed its decision in a memo circulated to the counties, saying it was "with great regret" that the Friends Provident T20 finalists would be unable to participate in the lucrative tournament in South Africa, according to a report in the Daily Telegraph.

The participation of teams from England had been put in doubt after it emerged that the schedule, announced in February, would clash with crucial fixtures at the end of the English season, which runs until September 16. England will be playing Pakistan in an ODI series at the time, the final two rounds of the County Championship will be on, as well as the semi-finals and final of the ECB40 competition.

The ECB had already tweaked its domestic calendar to accommodate the Champions League, which was originally scheduled for October, but the tournament was brought forward to accommodate India's home series against Australia. The board said that counties would be able to participate in the next two Champions Leagues which will not clash with the domestic season.

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  • lucyferr on May 24, 2010, 14:18 GMT

    Wonder if such clashes with CLT20 timing will still happen now that the Modfather (aka cricket's version of Jack Warner) is gone?

  • on May 24, 2010, 9:44 GMT

    Well it's almost as if certain country's/people have an issue with England, I mean what a surprise the CL was scheduled to start when the English season is still playing!

  • Adolfhitler89 on May 23, 2010, 8:16 GMT

    Great decision by ECB. Tournaments like these are giving cricket a bad name. The IPL controversy has already damaged the reputation of the great game.

  • ManHOOS on May 22, 2010, 18:13 GMT

    great decision ECB i can say only one thing save cricket from ugly businessmen

  • jr2012 on May 22, 2010, 15:24 GMT

    CricketingStargazer wrote: "Navster, I presume that this is the reasoning behind the IPL sides having first pick on foreign stars? It is a philosophy that reeks of hypochrisy."

    As opposed to the England National Team turning it's back on it's born and bred players and hiring merceneries to win the games!

    The repentance of a hypocrite is itself hypocrisy!

    And your reference to invites to other sub-continent teams, SL clubs are there, Bangladesh don't warrant an invite, and inviting Pakistani sides in the current climate next to impossible with their citizens willingly ready to murder Indian civilians!! And ECB still hold sour grapes at not getting a bigger share of the TV revenue which they cannot surely justify....people in England don't give a two hoots about T20....hypocrisy...surely the ECB are the biggest hypocrites!, Stantford anyone??!!

  • CricketingStargazer on May 22, 2010, 12:12 GMT

    Navster, I presume that this is the reasoning behind the IPL sides having first pick on foreign stars? It is a philosophy that reeks of hypochrisy. Even with as many imports as they wanted, no IPL side reached the final and, as has been pointed out, the lack of invitations to other sub-continent sides suggests that the rules are being carefully adjusted to work in someone's favour.

  • jr2012 on May 22, 2010, 11:25 GMT

    Funny, suddenly the ECB have got balls...delayed their decision after the WC T20. No-one is going to miss the counties, and the WC T20 was won by imports brought up in SA, hence besides the Pakistani teams, all the top domestic sides will be there, the county has always been mediocre at producing quality One Day players!

  • CricketingStargazer on May 22, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    zoe23h makes a good point: even with the rules rigged in their favour, the IPL sides did not cover themselves in glory last year, yet the same fans who feel that it is their right to first choice of the best foreign players moan at England selection policies!! Let the players have the first right to play for the side in their country of birth and then, only if not wanted, play for someone else. That would even up the Champions Trophy a lot and, in the long run, be good for Indian cricket.

  • A_HTIMAN on May 22, 2010, 10:29 GMT

    Good decession England... You shouldn't scrap your schedule in sake of money.. Countries should only participate in leagues like IPL and CL if they don't have international schedule.. Not by scrapping international cricket in sake of it. I was really sad whwn Sri Lanka scrapped their international schedule of England Tour in sake of IPL.

  • Gizza on May 22, 2010, 10:27 GMT

    @zoh23h the IPL teams are not the only teams that had foreigners last time. The New Zealand Otago side has Ravi Bopara and the English counties had their overseas visitors. This time the Australian Big Bash sides will have foreigners.

    In fact the CL rules state that any team can have a maximum of 4 foreigners in their franchise/state/province/country team.

    And last time the IPL weren't the worst. Sri Lanka's Wayamba and NZ's Otago were the worst two teams. The IPL teams are at a disadvantage since they do not have as much time to gel. Using Ranji teams could solve that problem.

  • lucyferr on May 24, 2010, 14:18 GMT

    Wonder if such clashes with CLT20 timing will still happen now that the Modfather (aka cricket's version of Jack Warner) is gone?

  • on May 24, 2010, 9:44 GMT

    Well it's almost as if certain country's/people have an issue with England, I mean what a surprise the CL was scheduled to start when the English season is still playing!

  • Adolfhitler89 on May 23, 2010, 8:16 GMT

    Great decision by ECB. Tournaments like these are giving cricket a bad name. The IPL controversy has already damaged the reputation of the great game.

  • ManHOOS on May 22, 2010, 18:13 GMT

    great decision ECB i can say only one thing save cricket from ugly businessmen

  • jr2012 on May 22, 2010, 15:24 GMT

    CricketingStargazer wrote: "Navster, I presume that this is the reasoning behind the IPL sides having first pick on foreign stars? It is a philosophy that reeks of hypochrisy."

    As opposed to the England National Team turning it's back on it's born and bred players and hiring merceneries to win the games!

    The repentance of a hypocrite is itself hypocrisy!

    And your reference to invites to other sub-continent teams, SL clubs are there, Bangladesh don't warrant an invite, and inviting Pakistani sides in the current climate next to impossible with their citizens willingly ready to murder Indian civilians!! And ECB still hold sour grapes at not getting a bigger share of the TV revenue which they cannot surely justify....people in England don't give a two hoots about T20....hypocrisy...surely the ECB are the biggest hypocrites!, Stantford anyone??!!

  • CricketingStargazer on May 22, 2010, 12:12 GMT

    Navster, I presume that this is the reasoning behind the IPL sides having first pick on foreign stars? It is a philosophy that reeks of hypochrisy. Even with as many imports as they wanted, no IPL side reached the final and, as has been pointed out, the lack of invitations to other sub-continent sides suggests that the rules are being carefully adjusted to work in someone's favour.

  • jr2012 on May 22, 2010, 11:25 GMT

    Funny, suddenly the ECB have got balls...delayed their decision after the WC T20. No-one is going to miss the counties, and the WC T20 was won by imports brought up in SA, hence besides the Pakistani teams, all the top domestic sides will be there, the county has always been mediocre at producing quality One Day players!

  • CricketingStargazer on May 22, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    zoe23h makes a good point: even with the rules rigged in their favour, the IPL sides did not cover themselves in glory last year, yet the same fans who feel that it is their right to first choice of the best foreign players moan at England selection policies!! Let the players have the first right to play for the side in their country of birth and then, only if not wanted, play for someone else. That would even up the Champions Trophy a lot and, in the long run, be good for Indian cricket.

  • A_HTIMAN on May 22, 2010, 10:29 GMT

    Good decession England... You shouldn't scrap your schedule in sake of money.. Countries should only participate in leagues like IPL and CL if they don't have international schedule.. Not by scrapping international cricket in sake of it. I was really sad whwn Sri Lanka scrapped their international schedule of England Tour in sake of IPL.

  • Gizza on May 22, 2010, 10:27 GMT

    @zoh23h the IPL teams are not the only teams that had foreigners last time. The New Zealand Otago side has Ravi Bopara and the English counties had their overseas visitors. This time the Australian Big Bash sides will have foreigners.

    In fact the CL rules state that any team can have a maximum of 4 foreigners in their franchise/state/province/country team.

    And last time the IPL weren't the worst. Sri Lanka's Wayamba and NZ's Otago were the worst two teams. The IPL teams are at a disadvantage since they do not have as much time to gel. Using Ranji teams could solve that problem.

  • on May 22, 2010, 9:46 GMT

    Champions league the name is itself a copied version from the elite European Football competition. I think the competition is in itself a joke, ECB tried its level best to tweak their domestic season when they thought that tournament would be held in October. So now if the BCCI changes its schedule to accommodate the series against Australia, then why should the ECB change their very own domestic schedule and the series against pakistan to go to champions league. I would like to say 'Well done ECB'.

  • cxiv on May 22, 2010, 9:42 GMT

    PAKISTANI TEAMS MUST BE INVITED

  • CricketingStargazer on May 22, 2010, 9:09 GMT

    It's a pity, but the English results in the Stanford T20 and last year's Champions' League don't suggest that we will be missed very much. However, that was before England became World T20 champions... The only solution is to have a little more coordination in world cricket with proper windows for competitions like the IPL (although the lack of Indian success in T20 competitions is becoming a consistent reminder that big money does not always mean high level) and the Champions' League. It is an appalling shame that there has not been more flexibility on all sides (for heaven's sake, the English season started in MARCH and is going to end on September 22nd and that extra time is not for County Championship cricket, is it???) Looking at the fixture list, about two and a half months in the middle of the season are almost exclusively dedicated to money-spinning limited overs cricket; remove two weeks from that unnecesary snoozefest and English sides could have played.

  • zoh23h on May 21, 2010, 21:27 GMT

    Champions league is a joke..If all the other countries have to play with players only from their country then why does india plays with Foreign players in champions league.. for example kiron pollard cannot play for trinidad now cuz he ll be part of mumbai indians.. champions league should leave ipl teams aside and send their best t20 team with only indian players.. does any agree with that ?

  • Innovative_Indian on May 21, 2010, 21:09 GMT

    I have been following and reading comments 4 long. I never understand fans. People always bitch abt IPL, CL, etc. Every1 is envy of popularity and $$, but give it a break! If you don't like it, move on. What is ur probs, come'n? Use some logic - CL is organized by 3 boards - BCCI, CSA and CA. If 2 of them are playing in Oct/ Nov, how do you expect them to modify dates for ECB? The ones complaining, give solution. Suggest dates that CL can accommodate. CL is happy to have each board, but for this year it seems difficult. ECB understands - so apologized, expressed interest, confirmed for next 2 years & moved on. ECB for their part had their priorities sorted out, which is good. I also many times don't like BCCI or IPL bullying and stretching beyond a limit, but who am I to complaint? If I don't like, I won't watch. It is their prerogative. Let's agree most out here who are complaining are watching both events, closely! If you are not, then why complain? Just don't do, to get attention.

  • decentguy_cse on May 21, 2010, 18:44 GMT

    So many people are showing their jealousy:)

  • on May 21, 2010, 17:56 GMT

    i hope CL board change the date so that ECB can join them and hope to see all other test nation send a team for this tournament

  • Puppster23 on May 21, 2010, 16:52 GMT

    BCCI is controlling world cricket, as they are the one's generating most of the revenue, and it looks like ECB just can't stand this. ECB & BCCI have been having these ego clashes for a while now, but frankly speaking such attitude on part of both boards isn't good for the game.

  • crictonite on May 21, 2010, 16:35 GMT

    This is what happens when you let a national board organize a tournament that should really be governed by an international body. While the ICC is too busy getting bitch-slapped, I am glad someone else has finally decided not to bend over and let the BCCI have its way with them.

  • on May 21, 2010, 16:17 GMT

    First champions league, champions team weren't playing - Pakistan. Second champions league, champions team ARENT playing - England.

    Nice one india, lets see your home grown heros do well against below par sides?

    'CHAMPIONS' League my arse xx

  • on May 21, 2010, 15:05 GMT

    Well Done ECB. You took a stand that all boards ought to take. I am not against T20, IPL or Champions League but it should never be at the expanse of traditional cricket and overall health of the sport.

  • Abaa on May 21, 2010, 14:54 GMT

    When will you guys ever stop being so high and mighty? Mediocrity was displayed by India in the World T20 that just folded a week ago ... And England for just so happen to be the World Champions in this format! Yes India won the inaugural championship but hey West Indies won the 1st two World Cups does anyone give a crap about it now? It was the Indian teams that were mediocre as was highlighted by the IPL teams getting bashed up last time :-) Champions League without the champions in this format getting a team to represent their nation? That is appallingly absurd and that devalues the tournament and most certainly not the other way around! As for the theory about the foreign imports, nobody asks them to come to England right? It is called migration and it's the individual's right after becoming a citizen to represent a country. So why didn't they choose India to move to? UK,Aus,US&basically all European countries have multi-cultural societies and cannot be blamed if it benefits them!

  • HajiFourTwenty on May 21, 2010, 14:13 GMT

    @spiritwithin you duffer taz786 is talking about england who are the world champions now... I personally like ECB because they prefer their own commitments over some one else's Leagues...

  • Awad on May 21, 2010, 13:44 GMT

    Well done ECB. The Champions League is another product of the T20 overdose and we can certainly do without it. Hope the other follow suit.

  • MkCric on May 21, 2010, 12:44 GMT

    I do not understand these conspiracy theories. India produces the highest sponsorpship money for any format of the cricket. If CL to succeed, they have to adjust the dates to accomodate Indian cricket calender. As I understand BCCI wants to include most of the teams in CL but due to the tight schedule of the Indian cricket international calender, the chosen dates clash with county cricket schedule in England, unfortunately counties are not able to participate in this year's CL tournament. As far as Pakistan's participation in the last year concerned, it was the decision of the PCB not to send players to IPL has probably become highly political and this year PCB again decided not to participate in CL.

  • on May 21, 2010, 12:32 GMT

    i've been sitting.. and quietly observing.. the movement in international cricket and the BCCI over the last few months..... i think that... there is a gradual movement away from deconcentrating cricket..... centralizing it to the subcontinent....

    granted they are one of the most lucrative markets for cricket.... but that is STILL NO REASON in my humble opinion for this direction of movement.

    it is frightening to think.... that the foundations are there.. for one day the ICC to be nothing more than a figure head.... a puppet for the BCCI.

    good work by the ECB... got your priorities right....

  • Rake1 on May 21, 2010, 12:18 GMT

    As there are 18 counties playing in England, the talent available to each county is not always the best. Australia & SA teams looked good in last years CL because they have six teams or so each competing for their domestic competition. So even though England are world champions, I don't think it neccessary indicates that the English teams participating in CL will be the better teams. Having said that it is a shame that teams from Pakistan & England will not be competing.

  • JosRoberts on May 21, 2010, 12:15 GMT

    @Cricfan78. Do you know the meaning of the word irony?

    "take a chill pill and learn to respect others opinions rather than throwing abuses and getting personal"

    "You guys won because of foreign imports nothing else."

    Perhaps you should follow your own advice? That second sentence sounded pretty much like abuse.

    And, for the record, said imports are all products of the English counties - "breeding grounds for ordinary cricketers" - and English (or in case of Keiswetter, Scottich) parents.

  • shahzy0 on May 21, 2010, 11:38 GMT

    i really apreciate Ecb fr nt obeyng BCCI . what do thy thnk tht thy can chnge international shedules by thmslv ? they didnt wntd the the shedule f aus vr india to clash whth champions leauge bt wntd the englnd vs pak odi to clash wth champions leaupe..wht maniacs r they?

  • spiritwithin on May 21, 2010, 11:37 GMT

    @Taz786...pakistan is no more a world champion,remember??and dont worry indian teams,australian and SA as well as wi and srilankan teams r participating...thankyou we don need ur views and judgements on CL,so get lost if u dont like CL,nobody's bothered about u....

  • puneet_cricinfo on May 21, 2010, 11:34 GMT

    The world's richest cricket board BCCI is probably the poorest manager.BCCI takes every other board for granted & its a good thing what ECB has done; atleast the BCCI will learn something this time. Last year, the organisers banned Pakistan's domestic teams from participating in Champions League which allowed participation of three IPL teams instead of two; this year since English counties are not playing so the BCCI might allow 4 IPL teams thereby making it a mini IPL instead of Champions League.

  • CricFan78 on May 21, 2010, 11:18 GMT

    Who cares about English counties ... they are breeding grounds for ordinary cricketers anyway. @Charlie7 take a chill pill and learn to respect others opinions rather than throwing abuses and getting personal. You guys won because of foreign imports nothing else.

  • Chairtruck on May 21, 2010, 10:59 GMT

    Bravo ECB! Lalit Modi and his circus haven't destroyed English Cricket. Good for the Poms

  • dagger64 on May 21, 2010, 10:56 GMT

    It is a shame that the Champions League clashes with our domestic league. It cannot be ignored that it always seems to clash with Pakistan playing cricket elsewhere. The last two T20 world champions are England (yes!!) and Pakistan and YET they are NOT in the CL. Now that will devalue the whole tournament. It is a sad state, typical of the bullish Indian Cricket board to do that.

  • on May 21, 2010, 9:53 GMT

    The counties are going to hate this, but the ECB deserve praise for not being bullied by the BCCI. At least they don't totally own the game yet!

  • on May 21, 2010, 9:51 GMT

    Cool without the world champions this so called "champions league ", though its quality of cricket must admit is better than that glorified IPL , will lose its value unless of course there is post match parties to spice up things

  • Taz786 on May 21, 2010, 8:51 GMT

    Good to see the ECB didn't bow down to the BCCI on this.They did it on purpose so to clash with the England Vs Pakistan ODI series, they always do it to clash anything to do with Pakistan cricket.

    We are World Twenty20 Champions, What has India done on the World Stage in the last two tournaments, dumped out in the Super Eights without winning a single match.

    No Thank You India, you can have your 'million dollar' tournament for yourself and your cronies.

  • Harvey on May 21, 2010, 8:00 GMT

    @Gupta.Ankur - I seem to recall one of those mediocre English teams knocking the reigning IPL champions out of the competition last year. If you don't want "mediocrity" in the Champions League, then maybe only teams from Australia, South Africa, and the Caribbean should be allowed to take part, because they were the only ones worth watching last time. The lack of any teams from England (World T20 champions 2010) will further devalue a competition that was already somewhat lacking in credibility due to the absence of any teams from Pakistan (World T20 champions 2009).

  • ypsc on May 21, 2010, 7:54 GMT

    THIS IS GOOD, NOW TWO INDIAN IPL TEAMS CAN BE ADDED IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE20 FOR THIS YEAR I.E DECCAN CHARGERS AND DELHI DAREDEVILS..

  • Asif_Iqbal on May 21, 2010, 7:32 GMT

    The standard of cricket in CL and IPL are v.poor especially in CL which I don't think must be called Champions League. Team ranked 3 from India participate in the tournament but rank 1 from Pak and now Eng. not a part of it.

  • on May 21, 2010, 7:22 GMT

    @ Gupta.Ankur - that's quite short-sighted and tunnel visioned! These were county cricketers and not full-time internationals like our own India team who were fantastic against short-pitched bowling and really raised the bar in the world cup right...I'd cut them a bit of slack given that their international team just wont the world t20. And moreover, the Champs League is a global event so missing out the English counties is a failure of fixture organisation and is a sad, sad thing in this day and age.

  • Charlie7 on May 21, 2010, 7:10 GMT

    @gupta.ankur... Why are some Indian supporters so chippy and defensive? Who won the World Cup? and who were total rubbish? I guess that you would have hit Blackwell out of the park.......... its an easy game from your arm-chair.

  • hiroshan on May 21, 2010, 6:11 GMT

    Why this is happening? Has BCCI become so bullish that they can pull any International cricket schedule? First, it was bad planning by BCCI not to have enough tests for greed; now as whole world is shouting and to retain No. 1 position, they are pulling Australia and changing schedule for this league. God save cricket from dirty politics.

  • Gupta.Ankur on May 21, 2010, 5:43 GMT

    anyhow they fared very poorly in the last CLT20.I don't think many people would miss them.

    I was the other day watching Kent Vs Durham and was shocked and appalled at the way Kent were losing wickets to straighter-one from blackwell..........one after the other.

    I think we will be saved from mediocrity.

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  • Gupta.Ankur on May 21, 2010, 5:43 GMT

    anyhow they fared very poorly in the last CLT20.I don't think many people would miss them.

    I was the other day watching Kent Vs Durham and was shocked and appalled at the way Kent were losing wickets to straighter-one from blackwell..........one after the other.

    I think we will be saved from mediocrity.

  • hiroshan on May 21, 2010, 6:11 GMT

    Why this is happening? Has BCCI become so bullish that they can pull any International cricket schedule? First, it was bad planning by BCCI not to have enough tests for greed; now as whole world is shouting and to retain No. 1 position, they are pulling Australia and changing schedule for this league. God save cricket from dirty politics.

  • Charlie7 on May 21, 2010, 7:10 GMT

    @gupta.ankur... Why are some Indian supporters so chippy and defensive? Who won the World Cup? and who were total rubbish? I guess that you would have hit Blackwell out of the park.......... its an easy game from your arm-chair.

  • on May 21, 2010, 7:22 GMT

    @ Gupta.Ankur - that's quite short-sighted and tunnel visioned! These were county cricketers and not full-time internationals like our own India team who were fantastic against short-pitched bowling and really raised the bar in the world cup right...I'd cut them a bit of slack given that their international team just wont the world t20. And moreover, the Champs League is a global event so missing out the English counties is a failure of fixture organisation and is a sad, sad thing in this day and age.

  • Asif_Iqbal on May 21, 2010, 7:32 GMT

    The standard of cricket in CL and IPL are v.poor especially in CL which I don't think must be called Champions League. Team ranked 3 from India participate in the tournament but rank 1 from Pak and now Eng. not a part of it.

  • ypsc on May 21, 2010, 7:54 GMT

    THIS IS GOOD, NOW TWO INDIAN IPL TEAMS CAN BE ADDED IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE20 FOR THIS YEAR I.E DECCAN CHARGERS AND DELHI DAREDEVILS..

  • Harvey on May 21, 2010, 8:00 GMT

    @Gupta.Ankur - I seem to recall one of those mediocre English teams knocking the reigning IPL champions out of the competition last year. If you don't want "mediocrity" in the Champions League, then maybe only teams from Australia, South Africa, and the Caribbean should be allowed to take part, because they were the only ones worth watching last time. The lack of any teams from England (World T20 champions 2010) will further devalue a competition that was already somewhat lacking in credibility due to the absence of any teams from Pakistan (World T20 champions 2009).

  • Taz786 on May 21, 2010, 8:51 GMT

    Good to see the ECB didn't bow down to the BCCI on this.They did it on purpose so to clash with the England Vs Pakistan ODI series, they always do it to clash anything to do with Pakistan cricket.

    We are World Twenty20 Champions, What has India done on the World Stage in the last two tournaments, dumped out in the Super Eights without winning a single match.

    No Thank You India, you can have your 'million dollar' tournament for yourself and your cronies.

  • on May 21, 2010, 9:51 GMT

    Cool without the world champions this so called "champions league ", though its quality of cricket must admit is better than that glorified IPL , will lose its value unless of course there is post match parties to spice up things

  • on May 21, 2010, 9:53 GMT

    The counties are going to hate this, but the ECB deserve praise for not being bullied by the BCCI. At least they don't totally own the game yet!