Is net run-rate a fair tie-breaker when teams are tied on points?

June 11, 2013, 5:36 GMT

By TATTUs

Well let me give an example and explain. Say ENG vs AUS and NZ vs SL. Suppose Australia batting first scores 279/5 in 50 overs. England chasing that finishes with 200/9 in their 50 overs. So whats the nRR according to current format? 1.58 for Australia. Now say SL scores 50 all out in 15 overs. NZ chases that 50/9 in 10 overs. For me both teams played badly no matter the pitch. Infact gauging a performance based on pitch is really next to impossible as pitches may suit different teams differently. Now taking NRR, NZ will get an NRR of 4. Now that would be ridiculous for me. If we add the wickets column to the denominator while calculating RR for teams then Australia has .6715 as the NRR. NZ will have .4555 as the NRR. I am not saying this a foolproof solution. None of them ever would be. Thats why this game is a game of glorious uncertainties. But we should try to make the current system better which is always a part of human evolution. Else simply stick to wins and not have NRR at all

June 11, 2013, 5:25 GMT

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NRR may have been relatively successful throughout many years BUT as we are seeing first hand in this tournament It doesn't fairly reflect the success of a team. The reason is Overs are not the only resource a batting team has. The wickets have been completely ignored. Ideally in a deadlock situation where teams are tied the first clause should be how they fared against each other. If it is a 3 way tile , where for example three teams have 4 points each Then a resource-based calculation on the lines of D/L should be applied. England will feel really hard done if by some way NZ edge them out on NRR this tournament wouldn't they? After walloping Australia they are still behind NZ who got in by the skin of their teeth.

June 10, 2013, 21:00 GMT

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S Rajesh nailed it nearly 100%.

1.NRR is unfair: it doesn't take resources expended properly, to reflect "margin of victory".

2.Direct use of Duckworth-Lewis is fairER: as Rajesh suggested, pretend the match is rain-washed at the moment of victory, and compute the expected margin in RUNS based on remaining resources. Doing this largely eliminates unfairness, other than one factor, which is:

3.Pitches/playing conditions: One team may win by 20 runs on a flat batting track: another team may win by 20 runs on a devilish pitch. The two aren't equal (that's what the runs conversion misses). This could be rectified, since D/L DOES account for par for A ground. The runs may be converted into a "% margin compared to PAR for the ground", and those stats may be aggregated over matches (rather than adding up runs across different pitches, as Rajesh suggested).

Essentially, it boils down to: each game, a team won by X % of margin...compared to par. Which improves substantially on the NRR metho

June 18, 2013, 10:14 GMT

By Naseer

I think this whole net run rate system should be eliminated from the tournaments, in case two teams are tied on same points they should compete and the winner should advance, because this will be clear and fair to all, the game will be simple there would be no complications. Because all these indicators for net run rate are not logical, and they could not show how much good or poor a team's performance is,but still it still it has huge impact on the tournament and has very important role in deciding semi finalist which is unfair, the only team that has been truly consistent is India, apart from India, all teams have had ups and downs thefrefoe to seperate these teams it must necesry that that play each other till the winner is confirmed, and what is the need for these formulas which sometimes even have bad impact on the game, for example game between Aus and Srlanka, Aus had to reach the garget in 29.1 overs, which actually made them lose the game, they cud h easily won the game n 50