West Indies news August 27, 2010

WICB ties national selection to regional tournaments

Cricinfo staff
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The West Indies board has made national selection contingent on players' availability for regional tournaments. This is one of several criteria announced on Friday by the WICB as an effort to build teams in the various formats and is geared at ensuring high standards at the domestic level and retaining the best-available talent for international cricket.

Players must, barring "exceptional circumstances", participate in regional cricket when not representing West Indies," a board statement said.

Most recently, Kieron Pollard, the West Indies allrounder, opted to skip an A tour to England and chose instead to play for Somerset. Though Pollard's case did not involve a regional competition, the criteria is aimed at having the top players feature in the domestic tournaments and remain in contention for selection into the national squad.

Those players seeking selection into a particular format will have to make themselves available for participation in the corresponding regional version - the first-class four-day competition, the 50-over one-day tournament or the Caribbean T20. The rule applies to all levels of cricket, including age-group and women's cricket.

In addition, the criteria include a minimal level of fitness, consistently high levels of performance, commitment to participation in activities organised by the WICB and any prescribed remedial programme by the board following an injury.

The WICB also mapped out timelines for achieving objectives in terms of the national team's performance. A "settled competitive unit" by the 2013 ICC Champions Trophy, the board said, would lay the ground for a "winning combination" by the 2015 World Cup. Similar goals were set for the 2014 ICC World Twenty20, though the board acknowledged that achieving consistency in Tests would take longer.

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  • delboy on September 3, 2010, 9:12 GMT

    All I want to add is that WI cricket did not suffer when the follwing plyed their trade abroad during the English domestic season:

    Grennidge, Roberts, Marshall = Hampshire Richards, Garner = Somerset Lloyd = Lancs. Holding = Derby

    Just to name a few and then when Llody's Packer brigade was suspended we had the like of Croft and others sitting in the wings.

    WI cricket needs emerging talent and a more competitive boost which should be inspired by the so called failures like 'Gayle, Pollard, Bravo' who seemingly attract a grudge to the administration for their earning powers rather than act as the catalyst to get more youth queueing up to take their places as they continue to under achieve.

    An investment in GRASSROOTS, proper renumeration and PERFORMANCE related pay, trimming of the administration and a better way to support former players should be the focus....

  • on August 31, 2010, 20:24 GMT

    West Indian domestic cricket is rubbish:it lack quality players, intensity and decent pitches! The more players playing foreign cricket the better, the players are exposed to a lot more including work ethic. I love the windies, but i think its the administration thats the problem!

  • kingstonsfinest on August 30, 2010, 18:21 GMT

    By your logic Delboy for the WI to be competitve we have to have all our players playing in foreign conditions to avoid the tendency to 'freeze' unfortunately that is not possible and so the next best thing is to elevate the quality of our own first class competition and ensure that there are different playing conditions around the caribbean. Get rid of these flat dirt patches that are being prepared for the games and make sure that our pitches offer something to bowlers who are willing to bend their backs and batters who are willing to fight and concentrate hard. But more than anything when young players get to play against top flight cricketers in their own back yards it gives them confidence to keep getting better and thats what we want. @ Mettman I cant understand how ramdin and rampaul get back contracts i wonder if ramnarine have a clause in the contract with WICB that say atleast 3 peopl with 'ram' in their name must have a central contract.

  • Metman on August 30, 2010, 11:45 GMT

    @Kingstonsfinest !Well said! This move by the WICB is a VERY GOOD IDEA.@delboy!allowing players to get more exposure to intl playing conditions doesnt follow that that the team would be stronger,if that was the case,Pollard ,would have been a star performer for the WI !Are the playing conditions in India and England better than those in the WI? West Indians are not the only ones to FREEZE when playing around the Globe,big man! MJK Smith,and Greame Hick for England ,two of the most prolific batsmen in County cricket ,would struggle outside of England,to name a few who readily come to mind!All over the Globe,some players would excell at home,and struggle away from home.Knowing the publicity that Ramnarine likes,he has to come with something to oppose this! just wait and see!and to the person who said that the WI should get rid of Gayle,Sarwan,Bravo,Pollard,u must also add to that list Ramdin and Rampaul,two of the star performers when it comes to underachieving for the WI!

  • delboy on August 29, 2010, 17:57 GMT

    This is a STUPID idea, the regional competition does not provide the standard or exposure required by players good enough to be selected to represent the national team. If players of the ilke of Gayle, Bravo etc do not figure in domestic competition, chances are they are plying their trade on pitches around the globe which when these so called loyal regionals get a chance to shine, the simply FREEZE. The more your players of international statue get exposed to international playing conditions the stronger your national side will be, UNLESS the WICB are looking a replicating the playing conditions of INDIA, ENGLAND, AUSTRALIA etc.. in the caribbean. THINK THE WHOLE SCENARIO THRU. NOT JUST THE STAR PLAYERS ABILITY TO ATTRACT BIGGER GATES.

  • baynes on August 28, 2010, 20:47 GMT

    This is a highly commendable policy instituted by the WICB;it will ensure that all players in the region earn their spots & not think that it's automatic selection because of their years of experience & rare brilliance displayed in the past..However,the board will have to ensure that it raises the standard by attracting sponsors that will make its own regional competition competitive with others globally....Also they will have to wary of Ramnarine who will resist this policy at every turn as is his custom...THIS GUY ACTS RATHER SELFISHLY AT TIMES ,CARING LESS OF WEST INDIES' CRICKET OVERALL DEVELOPMENT...HE NEVER CALLS ON HIS MEMBERS TO IMPROVE THEIR DISMAL DISPLAY ON FIELD BUT FINDS ALL EXCUSES FOR THEIR FAILURE!IT IS LUDICROUS IN ANY ORGANISATION TO EXPECT A PAY RISE WHEN THE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT PRODUCING..SUCH A DECISION IS FOOLHARDY & WILL INEVITABLY RESULT IN BUSINESS FAILURE! THERE IS NEED FOR MEANINGFUL GOODWILL FROM THIS THIS PRESENT BOARD & THE PLAYERS' REPRESENTATIVES!

  • on August 28, 2010, 11:10 GMT

    Ok WICB look out for Ramnarine (WIPA) i bet he has something to say aout this. Great Move WICB.

  • Ashu123 on August 28, 2010, 8:50 GMT

    wow looks like windies already gave up on 2011 world cup

  • afterhours on August 28, 2010, 5:16 GMT

    Okay Windies winning solution. It's being proven now and for the pass ten years that these crop of players will not bring us back to our glory days and will not in the future. So we sack this team. These are some of the young players we should give a run for about four years fast bowlers Edwards, Taylor and Roach.spin bowler Shillingford batsmen Barath,Simmons,Hughes,Darren Bravo, Powell, keeper Baugh and all rounder and Captain Sammy. Sammy may not be a wicket taker but he can hold up one end while the fast men go on short spells and he can give you runs in the lower order. Yes we gonna loose some games but who can argue with that it's not like we are winning now but in two years we will start to see results.with Lara Larry Gomes as batting coach we can not go wrong. Please now is the time. Remember what Lloyd did with his young Team when they came back from Australia.

  • on August 28, 2010, 5:14 GMT

    Good job WICB...Finally showing that you can make good decisions that attempt to improve cricket in the region. Players should have to earn a spot on the regoinal team by playing in the regional comps. Players say their goal is to play test cricket yet they find themselves playing 2020 comp all over and not even attempting to play fc cricket for these same foreign teams. Take a lesson from Chanderpaul's book guys!!!!!

  • delboy on September 3, 2010, 9:12 GMT

    All I want to add is that WI cricket did not suffer when the follwing plyed their trade abroad during the English domestic season:

    Grennidge, Roberts, Marshall = Hampshire Richards, Garner = Somerset Lloyd = Lancs. Holding = Derby

    Just to name a few and then when Llody's Packer brigade was suspended we had the like of Croft and others sitting in the wings.

    WI cricket needs emerging talent and a more competitive boost which should be inspired by the so called failures like 'Gayle, Pollard, Bravo' who seemingly attract a grudge to the administration for their earning powers rather than act as the catalyst to get more youth queueing up to take their places as they continue to under achieve.

    An investment in GRASSROOTS, proper renumeration and PERFORMANCE related pay, trimming of the administration and a better way to support former players should be the focus....

  • on August 31, 2010, 20:24 GMT

    West Indian domestic cricket is rubbish:it lack quality players, intensity and decent pitches! The more players playing foreign cricket the better, the players are exposed to a lot more including work ethic. I love the windies, but i think its the administration thats the problem!

  • kingstonsfinest on August 30, 2010, 18:21 GMT

    By your logic Delboy for the WI to be competitve we have to have all our players playing in foreign conditions to avoid the tendency to 'freeze' unfortunately that is not possible and so the next best thing is to elevate the quality of our own first class competition and ensure that there are different playing conditions around the caribbean. Get rid of these flat dirt patches that are being prepared for the games and make sure that our pitches offer something to bowlers who are willing to bend their backs and batters who are willing to fight and concentrate hard. But more than anything when young players get to play against top flight cricketers in their own back yards it gives them confidence to keep getting better and thats what we want. @ Mettman I cant understand how ramdin and rampaul get back contracts i wonder if ramnarine have a clause in the contract with WICB that say atleast 3 peopl with 'ram' in their name must have a central contract.

  • Metman on August 30, 2010, 11:45 GMT

    @Kingstonsfinest !Well said! This move by the WICB is a VERY GOOD IDEA.@delboy!allowing players to get more exposure to intl playing conditions doesnt follow that that the team would be stronger,if that was the case,Pollard ,would have been a star performer for the WI !Are the playing conditions in India and England better than those in the WI? West Indians are not the only ones to FREEZE when playing around the Globe,big man! MJK Smith,and Greame Hick for England ,two of the most prolific batsmen in County cricket ,would struggle outside of England,to name a few who readily come to mind!All over the Globe,some players would excell at home,and struggle away from home.Knowing the publicity that Ramnarine likes,he has to come with something to oppose this! just wait and see!and to the person who said that the WI should get rid of Gayle,Sarwan,Bravo,Pollard,u must also add to that list Ramdin and Rampaul,two of the star performers when it comes to underachieving for the WI!

  • delboy on August 29, 2010, 17:57 GMT

    This is a STUPID idea, the regional competition does not provide the standard or exposure required by players good enough to be selected to represent the national team. If players of the ilke of Gayle, Bravo etc do not figure in domestic competition, chances are they are plying their trade on pitches around the globe which when these so called loyal regionals get a chance to shine, the simply FREEZE. The more your players of international statue get exposed to international playing conditions the stronger your national side will be, UNLESS the WICB are looking a replicating the playing conditions of INDIA, ENGLAND, AUSTRALIA etc.. in the caribbean. THINK THE WHOLE SCENARIO THRU. NOT JUST THE STAR PLAYERS ABILITY TO ATTRACT BIGGER GATES.

  • baynes on August 28, 2010, 20:47 GMT

    This is a highly commendable policy instituted by the WICB;it will ensure that all players in the region earn their spots & not think that it's automatic selection because of their years of experience & rare brilliance displayed in the past..However,the board will have to ensure that it raises the standard by attracting sponsors that will make its own regional competition competitive with others globally....Also they will have to wary of Ramnarine who will resist this policy at every turn as is his custom...THIS GUY ACTS RATHER SELFISHLY AT TIMES ,CARING LESS OF WEST INDIES' CRICKET OVERALL DEVELOPMENT...HE NEVER CALLS ON HIS MEMBERS TO IMPROVE THEIR DISMAL DISPLAY ON FIELD BUT FINDS ALL EXCUSES FOR THEIR FAILURE!IT IS LUDICROUS IN ANY ORGANISATION TO EXPECT A PAY RISE WHEN THE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT PRODUCING..SUCH A DECISION IS FOOLHARDY & WILL INEVITABLY RESULT IN BUSINESS FAILURE! THERE IS NEED FOR MEANINGFUL GOODWILL FROM THIS THIS PRESENT BOARD & THE PLAYERS' REPRESENTATIVES!

  • on August 28, 2010, 11:10 GMT

    Ok WICB look out for Ramnarine (WIPA) i bet he has something to say aout this. Great Move WICB.

  • Ashu123 on August 28, 2010, 8:50 GMT

    wow looks like windies already gave up on 2011 world cup

  • afterhours on August 28, 2010, 5:16 GMT

    Okay Windies winning solution. It's being proven now and for the pass ten years that these crop of players will not bring us back to our glory days and will not in the future. So we sack this team. These are some of the young players we should give a run for about four years fast bowlers Edwards, Taylor and Roach.spin bowler Shillingford batsmen Barath,Simmons,Hughes,Darren Bravo, Powell, keeper Baugh and all rounder and Captain Sammy. Sammy may not be a wicket taker but he can hold up one end while the fast men go on short spells and he can give you runs in the lower order. Yes we gonna loose some games but who can argue with that it's not like we are winning now but in two years we will start to see results.with Lara Larry Gomes as batting coach we can not go wrong. Please now is the time. Remember what Lloyd did with his young Team when they came back from Australia.

  • on August 28, 2010, 5:14 GMT

    Good job WICB...Finally showing that you can make good decisions that attempt to improve cricket in the region. Players should have to earn a spot on the regoinal team by playing in the regional comps. Players say their goal is to play test cricket yet they find themselves playing 2020 comp all over and not even attempting to play fc cricket for these same foreign teams. Take a lesson from Chanderpaul's book guys!!!!!

  • kingstonsfinest on August 28, 2010, 2:08 GMT

    I am in strong agreement with this policy, I am sick and tired of so called 'star' players thinking they can skip the regional tournaments yet think they have an ordained right to be apart of the team. They choose to play BiG BASH IPL and everything except the regional competition and by doing so lessens the quality of the regional competition, and makes it harder to attract sponsors and crowds. And more importantly these players can prove that they are the best in WI and they actually deserve spots on the team. When the board does nothing you guys complain when they try to set out a strategy for success you complain what exactly do you want people?

  • on August 28, 2010, 1:47 GMT

    it is probably the most important thing that could have helped revive the cricket structure within the Caribbean. @ batusai666 don't know what makes you think the quality of cricket in england is any different from that in the carribean. county cricket has only helped fill the coffers of england players and their discards who are starved of a good first class cricket record. the cases of mike gatting, mark ramprakash and Graeme hick are good examples of how a player can despite having very little success at the "HIGHEST LEVEL" can boast of bradmanesque achievements. ditoo gooch, gower and boycott. and i dont know how keiron pollard can hone his skills turning up for somerset. he has already played the best in the IPL, and successfully too. if he really wanted to improve his game, he would have worked his way towards a test spot or to take your advice, play for south Australia in the sheffield shield instead of the KFC big bash.

  • ravsman on August 28, 2010, 1:47 GMT

    well it cant be all that bad now can it ?...

  • mittheimp on August 28, 2010, 1:16 GMT

    The Caribbean FC competition does not clash with the English summer. It does, however, clash with silly 20/20 comps in Australia. Pollard hasn't played a FC match for almost 2 years - he's just been following the money. This hopefully will stop others blindly following cash at the expense of a proper career.

  • on August 27, 2010, 22:18 GMT

    I doubt that these rules articulated by the WICB will bear any positive fruit. It may just be a ploy to control some players and legitimize the exclusion of others. One no longer knows what the truth is concerning WI cricket. I"ll wait and see without holding my breath.

  • batusai666 on August 27, 2010, 20:24 GMT

    I think that's a very stupid and myopic rule enforced to helf fill grounds for matches, nothing more. It certainly won't help in the development of players. Remember the 'Glory Days' of West Indies cricket? I think a significant factor in that was the county cricket being played by the Viv Richards's, the Lloyds etc. I think i'd much rather have my national team playing among those at the highest level.

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  • batusai666 on August 27, 2010, 20:24 GMT

    I think that's a very stupid and myopic rule enforced to helf fill grounds for matches, nothing more. It certainly won't help in the development of players. Remember the 'Glory Days' of West Indies cricket? I think a significant factor in that was the county cricket being played by the Viv Richards's, the Lloyds etc. I think i'd much rather have my national team playing among those at the highest level.

  • on August 27, 2010, 22:18 GMT

    I doubt that these rules articulated by the WICB will bear any positive fruit. It may just be a ploy to control some players and legitimize the exclusion of others. One no longer knows what the truth is concerning WI cricket. I"ll wait and see without holding my breath.

  • mittheimp on August 28, 2010, 1:16 GMT

    The Caribbean FC competition does not clash with the English summer. It does, however, clash with silly 20/20 comps in Australia. Pollard hasn't played a FC match for almost 2 years - he's just been following the money. This hopefully will stop others blindly following cash at the expense of a proper career.

  • ravsman on August 28, 2010, 1:47 GMT

    well it cant be all that bad now can it ?...

  • on August 28, 2010, 1:47 GMT

    it is probably the most important thing that could have helped revive the cricket structure within the Caribbean. @ batusai666 don't know what makes you think the quality of cricket in england is any different from that in the carribean. county cricket has only helped fill the coffers of england players and their discards who are starved of a good first class cricket record. the cases of mike gatting, mark ramprakash and Graeme hick are good examples of how a player can despite having very little success at the "HIGHEST LEVEL" can boast of bradmanesque achievements. ditoo gooch, gower and boycott. and i dont know how keiron pollard can hone his skills turning up for somerset. he has already played the best in the IPL, and successfully too. if he really wanted to improve his game, he would have worked his way towards a test spot or to take your advice, play for south Australia in the sheffield shield instead of the KFC big bash.

  • kingstonsfinest on August 28, 2010, 2:08 GMT

    I am in strong agreement with this policy, I am sick and tired of so called 'star' players thinking they can skip the regional tournaments yet think they have an ordained right to be apart of the team. They choose to play BiG BASH IPL and everything except the regional competition and by doing so lessens the quality of the regional competition, and makes it harder to attract sponsors and crowds. And more importantly these players can prove that they are the best in WI and they actually deserve spots on the team. When the board does nothing you guys complain when they try to set out a strategy for success you complain what exactly do you want people?

  • on August 28, 2010, 5:14 GMT

    Good job WICB...Finally showing that you can make good decisions that attempt to improve cricket in the region. Players should have to earn a spot on the regoinal team by playing in the regional comps. Players say their goal is to play test cricket yet they find themselves playing 2020 comp all over and not even attempting to play fc cricket for these same foreign teams. Take a lesson from Chanderpaul's book guys!!!!!

  • afterhours on August 28, 2010, 5:16 GMT

    Okay Windies winning solution. It's being proven now and for the pass ten years that these crop of players will not bring us back to our glory days and will not in the future. So we sack this team. These are some of the young players we should give a run for about four years fast bowlers Edwards, Taylor and Roach.spin bowler Shillingford batsmen Barath,Simmons,Hughes,Darren Bravo, Powell, keeper Baugh and all rounder and Captain Sammy. Sammy may not be a wicket taker but he can hold up one end while the fast men go on short spells and he can give you runs in the lower order. Yes we gonna loose some games but who can argue with that it's not like we are winning now but in two years we will start to see results.with Lara Larry Gomes as batting coach we can not go wrong. Please now is the time. Remember what Lloyd did with his young Team when they came back from Australia.

  • Ashu123 on August 28, 2010, 8:50 GMT

    wow looks like windies already gave up on 2011 world cup

  • on August 28, 2010, 11:10 GMT

    Ok WICB look out for Ramnarine (WIPA) i bet he has something to say aout this. Great Move WICB.