West Indies news July 29, 2011

Barath admits his batting needs improvement

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Adrian Barath, the West Indies batsman, has said that he would've liked to have played more domestic games before returning to international cricket after a long lay-off. Barath injured his hamstring during a World Cup 2011 warm-up match in February and played his first international game in more than four months against India in Kingston in June.

"That would have been the best scenario (but) the medical team and selectors saw it fit in the best time to get me back," Barath told the Trinidad-based Newsday. "It's important that there are no niggles. I played the Trindiad & Tobago Twenty20 Festival but you really can't compare that to international cricket."

Barath had one half-century in the three Tests against India, but looked rusty and struggled to convert his starts, often getting out edging to the slip cordon after shuffling too far across. "I just followed the ball," he said. "It's something I have to work on. Missing cricket has a part to play as well in terms of hand-eye coordination, footwork and just being tentative outside off-stump. I never had this problem before."

Barath is now concentrating on his preparations for the Champions League Twenty20 qualifiers, to be played in Hyderabad, India in September. Trinidad are the defending West Indies regional T20 champions and will play five other sides for three spots in the main tournament.

"It's obviously something we didn't expect (having to qualify) but whatever is thrown at you in life you have to find a way to deal with. The boys are up to these challenges that we are going to face," he said. "I think we have the ability to even win the tournament. We need to play as a team and we have quality players."

Having played for Kings XI Punjab in IPL 2010, Barath said that he was not averse to another IPL contract but his loyalties were with West Indies and Trinidad. "My performances are towards T&T winning the Champions League. I would like to contribute towards that goal. If the opportunity arises that I can get an IPL contract then no problem. Once it doesn't coincide with international cricket (I will play). I have to be faithful to West Indies cricket."

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  • CollisKing on August 1, 2011, 10:00 GMT

    @PaddyRasta. I am totally disagreeing with you. I would never go into a Test match with just these 4 bowlers without the added security of a) an all-rounder or b) a batsman who can bowl and hold one end (we had them in previous times: Viv, Carl Hooper, Phil Simmons). What happens if one of the 4 bowlers breaks down or gets injured? It happened in Dominica, this powder-puff 3-man bowling attack was exposed, any chance of forcing the issue at any stage in the match was gone on day 1. Unfortunately the lack of any reliability in the batting complicates the issue. The days of Greenidge, Haynes, Richardson etc. at the top or the order are long gone.

  • PaddyRasta on July 31, 2011, 21:52 GMT

    @CollisKing So you have effectively agreed with me - not 5 bowlers. But Sammy is not a genuine allrounder. Internationally he has 2 ODI 50s in 74 innings and only has 1 domestic first class 100 to his name - I live in hope that he can develop as a batsman, but these figures do not show promise. He is in the side as a bowler, end of story and will be so for the foreseeable future. So as fanciful and desirable that a Roach and Fidel new ball attack is, this will not be happening unless Sammy gets injured. And the talented Russell will have to sit out for the Tests.

  • cgtboy87 on July 31, 2011, 15:24 GMT

    you have a great test batsman in your team barath..shiv and sarwan can guide these players to the next level.

  • on July 31, 2011, 14:54 GMT

    @PaddyRasta. You are correct. The problem with our batting is our first class averages. If you look at the various scorecards every year, in most games the teams struggle to make 275. They therefore have difficulty making the step up to test cricket where the bowling is at a higher level.

  • PaddyRasta on July 31, 2011, 12:29 GMT

    @VivGilchrist I agree with you entirely. Never mind Test averages - the batting lineup all struggle to show first class averages greater than 40 and it is debatable how first class e.g. the 4 day game is in WI anyway. A couple Barath, young Bravo and Kirk Edwards have shown some promise but whether they will develop consistency only time will tell.

  • VivGilchrist on July 31, 2011, 2:33 GMT

    The sad part for the Windies is that batsmen that supporters believe should be carrying this team forward and batting in the top 7 - Samuels, Barath, Simmons, Baugh, Sammy, Dwayne Bravo etc all have batting averages well below par. Bravo snr has the highest with 31, which would get you a game for any of the other major Test nations. The bowling though, looks very good.

  • on July 30, 2011, 23:42 GMT

    I believe the ipl destroyed barath as well as many others. It has made him too attacking resulting in him being impatient and having difficulty in tests matches. He has to learn too show his potential he certainly has and use his brain and feet more. I would still prefer seeing him opening the batting with gayle in test matches.

  • S.N.Singh on July 30, 2011, 21:38 GMT

    IF BARATT WANT A GOOD TEACHER IT IS ROHAN KANHAI. WHE ROHAN WAS A COACHE IN JAMAICA HE BROGHT SOME GOOD PLAYERS. AND I THINK BHARATT SHOUL TRY AND REACH HIM FOR SOME ADVICE. ROHAN WAS THE GREATEST IN HIS DAYS. ALL BOWLERS IN DAYS WAS AFRAID OF ROHAN EVEN ALL THE WEST INDIES BOWLERS, HALL, GRIFFIT, SOBERS, AND THE REST. HE WAS A POWERFUL BATSMAN. CONTACT ROHAN FOR ADVISE. S. N . SINGH U S A

  • on July 30, 2011, 21:34 GMT

    Barath has to realize the difference in test and T20 and make the adjustment mentaly to be on top of his game but he is still young and has room to develop

  • on July 30, 2011, 11:53 GMT

    The only way Bharath will improve his batting is if he improves on his usage of the space between his ears! He is not quite the the thinking cricketer as yet and plays more on adrenalin now. The young man needs to understand that at the Test level his competitive advantage is his ability to out-think the opposition as he has already that he has the skill to be at the Test Level.

  • CollisKing on August 1, 2011, 10:00 GMT

    @PaddyRasta. I am totally disagreeing with you. I would never go into a Test match with just these 4 bowlers without the added security of a) an all-rounder or b) a batsman who can bowl and hold one end (we had them in previous times: Viv, Carl Hooper, Phil Simmons). What happens if one of the 4 bowlers breaks down or gets injured? It happened in Dominica, this powder-puff 3-man bowling attack was exposed, any chance of forcing the issue at any stage in the match was gone on day 1. Unfortunately the lack of any reliability in the batting complicates the issue. The days of Greenidge, Haynes, Richardson etc. at the top or the order are long gone.

  • PaddyRasta on July 31, 2011, 21:52 GMT

    @CollisKing So you have effectively agreed with me - not 5 bowlers. But Sammy is not a genuine allrounder. Internationally he has 2 ODI 50s in 74 innings and only has 1 domestic first class 100 to his name - I live in hope that he can develop as a batsman, but these figures do not show promise. He is in the side as a bowler, end of story and will be so for the foreseeable future. So as fanciful and desirable that a Roach and Fidel new ball attack is, this will not be happening unless Sammy gets injured. And the talented Russell will have to sit out for the Tests.

  • cgtboy87 on July 31, 2011, 15:24 GMT

    you have a great test batsman in your team barath..shiv and sarwan can guide these players to the next level.

  • on July 31, 2011, 14:54 GMT

    @PaddyRasta. You are correct. The problem with our batting is our first class averages. If you look at the various scorecards every year, in most games the teams struggle to make 275. They therefore have difficulty making the step up to test cricket where the bowling is at a higher level.

  • PaddyRasta on July 31, 2011, 12:29 GMT

    @VivGilchrist I agree with you entirely. Never mind Test averages - the batting lineup all struggle to show first class averages greater than 40 and it is debatable how first class e.g. the 4 day game is in WI anyway. A couple Barath, young Bravo and Kirk Edwards have shown some promise but whether they will develop consistency only time will tell.

  • VivGilchrist on July 31, 2011, 2:33 GMT

    The sad part for the Windies is that batsmen that supporters believe should be carrying this team forward and batting in the top 7 - Samuels, Barath, Simmons, Baugh, Sammy, Dwayne Bravo etc all have batting averages well below par. Bravo snr has the highest with 31, which would get you a game for any of the other major Test nations. The bowling though, looks very good.

  • on July 30, 2011, 23:42 GMT

    I believe the ipl destroyed barath as well as many others. It has made him too attacking resulting in him being impatient and having difficulty in tests matches. He has to learn too show his potential he certainly has and use his brain and feet more. I would still prefer seeing him opening the batting with gayle in test matches.

  • S.N.Singh on July 30, 2011, 21:38 GMT

    IF BARATT WANT A GOOD TEACHER IT IS ROHAN KANHAI. WHE ROHAN WAS A COACHE IN JAMAICA HE BROGHT SOME GOOD PLAYERS. AND I THINK BHARATT SHOUL TRY AND REACH HIM FOR SOME ADVICE. ROHAN WAS THE GREATEST IN HIS DAYS. ALL BOWLERS IN DAYS WAS AFRAID OF ROHAN EVEN ALL THE WEST INDIES BOWLERS, HALL, GRIFFIT, SOBERS, AND THE REST. HE WAS A POWERFUL BATSMAN. CONTACT ROHAN FOR ADVISE. S. N . SINGH U S A

  • on July 30, 2011, 21:34 GMT

    Barath has to realize the difference in test and T20 and make the adjustment mentaly to be on top of his game but he is still young and has room to develop

  • on July 30, 2011, 11:53 GMT

    The only way Bharath will improve his batting is if he improves on his usage of the space between his ears! He is not quite the the thinking cricketer as yet and plays more on adrenalin now. The young man needs to understand that at the Test level his competitive advantage is his ability to out-think the opposition as he has already that he has the skill to be at the Test Level.

  • CollisKing on July 30, 2011, 9:35 GMT

    @PaddyRasta This 4-man bowling attack without a genuine all-rounder is fraught with danger. We saw that when Rampaul was unable to bowl in Dominica. WI bowling escaped a first-innings flogging, the results could have been catastrophic, the other 3 bowlers were on their knees. The problem with the balance of this side is Sammy's lack of runs. The WI selectors need to bite the bullet, make Sammy the all-rounder to squeeze in another bowler and hope he delivers with the bat, or even move Carlton Baugh up to number 6. By the 3rd Test Fidel Edwards seemed to be getting the message. Pitching the ball up, bowling fast and swinging it Fidel looked world class - the "leader" of the attack. Fast bowlers in Test cricket are most effective with devastating, short, sharp spells. I want my new ball attack lead by Fidel, with a Roach/Taylor steamin' in at the other end, the underrated Ravi Rampaul first-change.

  • on July 30, 2011, 5:11 GMT

    Barath is an exciting prospect for west indies, but another guy to watch now is Kirk Edwards who had a suberb debut with a fighting hundred showing he is up to the challenge of test cricket

  • PaddyRasta on July 30, 2011, 2:25 GMT

    @tappee Shiv scored a centrury in the last test vs India and when runs are a premium, frankly who cares about strike rate? The game is about maintaining his wicket and anchoring the innings. His 9th wicket partnership with Fidel is what saved the game. The problem with that batting lineup was that Powell was really too green and should not have been playing and Samuels was disappointing not Shiv.

  • PaddyRasta on July 30, 2011, 2:11 GMT

    @CollisKing A 5 man bowling attack? What international team plays 5 specialist bowlers? A batsman who can bowl a few overs of spin or genuine allrounder is the 5th bowling option. In particular the batting lineup has been weak so sacrificing a batsman for a bowler is really not an option. So it's either Sammy or Roach/Russell/Taylor - this is the problem. And I do not agree - Russell's one great innings has shown some potential but this hardly rates him as an allrounder, not yet anyway. He was unfortunate not to be picked for the India tests but with Sammy having to play as captain, he was dropped after the ODIs.

  • CollisKing on July 29, 2011, 23:01 GMT

    As a batsman I rate Marlon Samuels very highly. A stop/start career at 30 I feel he could give us five big years. I would have Samuels opening with Barath, and hoping the potential of Darren Bravo, Kirk Edwards, Lendl Simmons and Andre Russel delivers. The West Indies MUST have a 5-man bowling attack. Khymer Roach or Jerome Taylor opening with Fidel Edwards: Ravi Rampaul and Sammy first change, Bishoo spinning.

  • tappee74 on July 29, 2011, 21:38 GMT

    Being out of form for not playing for a while is avious, it happens to everyone and Barath is no exception.He showed class during his short stint, and much can be expected of him. It is important that he keeps focus and things will be ok. WI is a bit limited in its human resource, for which it is important that quality players keep themselves fit and in form. At the moment there is a glimmer of hope.The last two series revealed some talent.Andre Russel showed himself as a genunine all rounder,Bishoo has done reasonable with the bat and has proved to be a world class fielder and a specialist bowler.Kirk Edwards is another revelation whom i hope will excite the future.Rampaul has done well.It is my opinion that Shiv be brought up the order to create some stabilty and be scoring at a healthy rate rather than batting down the order and having a strike rate of under 40 which is not good for team nor him. At the moment Shiv has been disappointing which is not good for his team.

  • CollisKing on July 29, 2011, 20:28 GMT

    Barath has got big potential as a Test match opening batsman for our beloved Windies. Adrian wants to improve I suggest he gets in touch with Gordon Greenidge for some serious coaching.

  • Silva-Surfa on July 29, 2011, 11:07 GMT

    Barath shouldn't be too hard on himself. After coming back from a lengthy injury, you can have all the net-practice you want, but there's nothing like having some batting-time in the middle, during a match. In his short career, he has broken down twice during his International stint with the Windies. I hope for his sake that it's a case of him being unlucky and not having a body that's prone to injuries. Maybe it's because he's young and ambitous, but it's good to see a player put his Country first and then embrace whatever offers that follow, providing it doesn't clash with his International duties. It gives me hope that for some players, the lure of big money is not the be-all and end-all in Professional sport.

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  • Silva-Surfa on July 29, 2011, 11:07 GMT

    Barath shouldn't be too hard on himself. After coming back from a lengthy injury, you can have all the net-practice you want, but there's nothing like having some batting-time in the middle, during a match. In his short career, he has broken down twice during his International stint with the Windies. I hope for his sake that it's a case of him being unlucky and not having a body that's prone to injuries. Maybe it's because he's young and ambitous, but it's good to see a player put his Country first and then embrace whatever offers that follow, providing it doesn't clash with his International duties. It gives me hope that for some players, the lure of big money is not the be-all and end-all in Professional sport.

  • CollisKing on July 29, 2011, 20:28 GMT

    Barath has got big potential as a Test match opening batsman for our beloved Windies. Adrian wants to improve I suggest he gets in touch with Gordon Greenidge for some serious coaching.

  • tappee74 on July 29, 2011, 21:38 GMT

    Being out of form for not playing for a while is avious, it happens to everyone and Barath is no exception.He showed class during his short stint, and much can be expected of him. It is important that he keeps focus and things will be ok. WI is a bit limited in its human resource, for which it is important that quality players keep themselves fit and in form. At the moment there is a glimmer of hope.The last two series revealed some talent.Andre Russel showed himself as a genunine all rounder,Bishoo has done reasonable with the bat and has proved to be a world class fielder and a specialist bowler.Kirk Edwards is another revelation whom i hope will excite the future.Rampaul has done well.It is my opinion that Shiv be brought up the order to create some stabilty and be scoring at a healthy rate rather than batting down the order and having a strike rate of under 40 which is not good for team nor him. At the moment Shiv has been disappointing which is not good for his team.

  • CollisKing on July 29, 2011, 23:01 GMT

    As a batsman I rate Marlon Samuels very highly. A stop/start career at 30 I feel he could give us five big years. I would have Samuels opening with Barath, and hoping the potential of Darren Bravo, Kirk Edwards, Lendl Simmons and Andre Russel delivers. The West Indies MUST have a 5-man bowling attack. Khymer Roach or Jerome Taylor opening with Fidel Edwards: Ravi Rampaul and Sammy first change, Bishoo spinning.

  • PaddyRasta on July 30, 2011, 2:11 GMT

    @CollisKing A 5 man bowling attack? What international team plays 5 specialist bowlers? A batsman who can bowl a few overs of spin or genuine allrounder is the 5th bowling option. In particular the batting lineup has been weak so sacrificing a batsman for a bowler is really not an option. So it's either Sammy or Roach/Russell/Taylor - this is the problem. And I do not agree - Russell's one great innings has shown some potential but this hardly rates him as an allrounder, not yet anyway. He was unfortunate not to be picked for the India tests but with Sammy having to play as captain, he was dropped after the ODIs.

  • PaddyRasta on July 30, 2011, 2:25 GMT

    @tappee Shiv scored a centrury in the last test vs India and when runs are a premium, frankly who cares about strike rate? The game is about maintaining his wicket and anchoring the innings. His 9th wicket partnership with Fidel is what saved the game. The problem with that batting lineup was that Powell was really too green and should not have been playing and Samuels was disappointing not Shiv.

  • on July 30, 2011, 5:11 GMT

    Barath is an exciting prospect for west indies, but another guy to watch now is Kirk Edwards who had a suberb debut with a fighting hundred showing he is up to the challenge of test cricket

  • CollisKing on July 30, 2011, 9:35 GMT

    @PaddyRasta This 4-man bowling attack without a genuine all-rounder is fraught with danger. We saw that when Rampaul was unable to bowl in Dominica. WI bowling escaped a first-innings flogging, the results could have been catastrophic, the other 3 bowlers were on their knees. The problem with the balance of this side is Sammy's lack of runs. The WI selectors need to bite the bullet, make Sammy the all-rounder to squeeze in another bowler and hope he delivers with the bat, or even move Carlton Baugh up to number 6. By the 3rd Test Fidel Edwards seemed to be getting the message. Pitching the ball up, bowling fast and swinging it Fidel looked world class - the "leader" of the attack. Fast bowlers in Test cricket are most effective with devastating, short, sharp spells. I want my new ball attack lead by Fidel, with a Roach/Taylor steamin' in at the other end, the underrated Ravi Rampaul first-change.

  • on July 30, 2011, 11:53 GMT

    The only way Bharath will improve his batting is if he improves on his usage of the space between his ears! He is not quite the the thinking cricketer as yet and plays more on adrenalin now. The young man needs to understand that at the Test level his competitive advantage is his ability to out-think the opposition as he has already that he has the skill to be at the Test Level.

  • on July 30, 2011, 21:34 GMT

    Barath has to realize the difference in test and T20 and make the adjustment mentaly to be on top of his game but he is still young and has room to develop