Thailand December 17, 2006

Trouble in Thailand

As cricket develops in new countries, true cricket lovers take great pleasure in seeing young cricketers improve their skills
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As cricket develops in new countries, true cricket lovers take great pleasure in seeing young cricketers improve their skills. However, in the last few months, a coup of another kind has happened in Thai cricket.

In the last month, there was an AGM of the Thai Cricket Association. The incumbent president, a prominent businessman, had been in the role for a considerable time, and the clubs thought it time for a change in direction at the top to push cricket development forward.

Thai cricket is spread throughout the country, clubs dominate the scene in Bangkok, but youth development is flourishing in the provinces. It was believed that a new strategy to pull the organisation together and push it forward was needed.

The vote was held, a new face was elected to head up the organisation, all seemed well. Unbeknown to the voting clubs and the committee, the incumbent chairman had registered another "dummy" committee consisting of his family, and employees with the government authorities. The vote had been a farce, and the incumbent appears to want to be president forever in defiance of the vote. Being a member of a prominent sports club in Bangkok, it is now also a case of I bring the pitch, so I am captain.

Interestingly this appears to be supported by the ACC for some strange reason.

Cricket is a developing sport in this part of the world, and without legitimate structures and organisations will never move forward correctly. For the volunteers and donors who support the cricket in Thailand this is a complete slap in the face. However, when one sees the farce that the ICC has created in Zimbabwe, I don't expect a good outcome for a minnow like Thailand in terms of governance and organisation.

Martin Williamson is executive editor of ESPNcricinfo and managing editor of ESPN Digital Media in Europe, the Middle East and Africa

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  • marklatham on April 21, 2010, 4:47 GMT

    Can someone bring us up to date with the current state of play in thai cricket-any resolution yet?

  • Robor on July 14, 2009, 12:59 GMT

    Thanks for article. Everytime like to read you. Robor

  • Saurooon on July 7, 2009, 8:13 GMT

    Greatings, Thanks for article. Everytime like to read you.

  • Eremeeff on June 24, 2009, 22:41 GMT

    Hi, I have already seen it somethere... Eremeeff

  • Nadine on May 14, 2009, 16:35 GMT

    Interesting, I`ll quote it on my site later. Have a nice day Nadine

  • Charlie on April 20, 2009, 16:32 GMT

    Amazing! Not clear for me, how offen you updating your blogs.cricinfo.com. Thanks Charlie

  • Keith on December 7, 2007, 13:48 GMT

    There were no differences to patch up.

    It was a plain case of deceit, lies and being a sore loser from one side. He lost, another won. Simple but he who lost did not want to go and was backed by a wrong doer in a higher position above. No differences to settle is what I take from reading this.

    Sad , very sad and maybe it is a case of trying to be important when one is not.....

  • Gorden on November 27, 2007, 9:47 GMT

    I am with Harry.People should not misuse media for their own selfish cause.The whole story was about power and posts.Since they have patched up their differences and league starts soon,the problems will bury soon.yes,communication should never stop or else things will be difficult."There is no business on a dead planet" So let them work it out to the best of their abilities.We will see a lot of cricket here.

  • Concerned on November 26, 2007, 10:50 GMT

    People keep saying all this flowery stuff about peace and harmony, but may I ask what exactly is happening in Bangkok at the moment? What sort of agreement have BCL and CAT reached? Is there going to be 1 league or 2? When does/do the league/leagues start?

    All this is happening while today the Thailand U-15s lost by 10 wickets to the Oman U-15s in Nepal. Quite pathetic in my opinion!

  • Harry on November 26, 2007, 8:06 GMT

    Thanks for your above mentioned editorial response. We appreciate it.We are general cricketers in Bangkok. We see media as constructive force rather than destructive agent.A lot of people who have personal problems are using pen instead of fists or guns to settle their scores. Why make media the culprit??You do not know the real picture of the episode and development here.You believe anyone who is good in this art of convincing people and writing..We appreciate your sympathy with such people or so called victims.

    We used to think the same way as you but after knowing few good things,we started to be neutral and tried to fill this communication gap.

    We are the people with positive mind.We know if we keep fighting,we do not know when to start and have a better tomorrow.There are problems every where in this world and we cannot settle them at will.Big ego is the greatest culprit to overcome problems.

    Past is past in Bangkok.At this moment we have a few good positive minded people here in Bangkok and we are sure good things will happen in future.

    Any agitating blogs can make things go backwards. Any way,this is your business.So you decide. God bless us all and help us with wisdom. I am sure wisdom is not sold in the market.You will agree with us that Wars are fought on ground but peace is achieved on table.

    You can always contact me at my above given e-mail.

    Harry

    EDITORIAL RESPONSE Harry, the email you provided is not recognised.

  • marklatham on April 21, 2010, 4:47 GMT

    Can someone bring us up to date with the current state of play in thai cricket-any resolution yet?

  • Robor on July 14, 2009, 12:59 GMT

    Thanks for article. Everytime like to read you. Robor

  • Saurooon on July 7, 2009, 8:13 GMT

    Greatings, Thanks for article. Everytime like to read you.

  • Eremeeff on June 24, 2009, 22:41 GMT

    Hi, I have already seen it somethere... Eremeeff

  • Nadine on May 14, 2009, 16:35 GMT

    Interesting, I`ll quote it on my site later. Have a nice day Nadine

  • Charlie on April 20, 2009, 16:32 GMT

    Amazing! Not clear for me, how offen you updating your blogs.cricinfo.com. Thanks Charlie

  • Keith on December 7, 2007, 13:48 GMT

    There were no differences to patch up.

    It was a plain case of deceit, lies and being a sore loser from one side. He lost, another won. Simple but he who lost did not want to go and was backed by a wrong doer in a higher position above. No differences to settle is what I take from reading this.

    Sad , very sad and maybe it is a case of trying to be important when one is not.....

  • Gorden on November 27, 2007, 9:47 GMT

    I am with Harry.People should not misuse media for their own selfish cause.The whole story was about power and posts.Since they have patched up their differences and league starts soon,the problems will bury soon.yes,communication should never stop or else things will be difficult."There is no business on a dead planet" So let them work it out to the best of their abilities.We will see a lot of cricket here.

  • Concerned on November 26, 2007, 10:50 GMT

    People keep saying all this flowery stuff about peace and harmony, but may I ask what exactly is happening in Bangkok at the moment? What sort of agreement have BCL and CAT reached? Is there going to be 1 league or 2? When does/do the league/leagues start?

    All this is happening while today the Thailand U-15s lost by 10 wickets to the Oman U-15s in Nepal. Quite pathetic in my opinion!

  • Harry on November 26, 2007, 8:06 GMT

    Thanks for your above mentioned editorial response. We appreciate it.We are general cricketers in Bangkok. We see media as constructive force rather than destructive agent.A lot of people who have personal problems are using pen instead of fists or guns to settle their scores. Why make media the culprit??You do not know the real picture of the episode and development here.You believe anyone who is good in this art of convincing people and writing..We appreciate your sympathy with such people or so called victims.

    We used to think the same way as you but after knowing few good things,we started to be neutral and tried to fill this communication gap.

    We are the people with positive mind.We know if we keep fighting,we do not know when to start and have a better tomorrow.There are problems every where in this world and we cannot settle them at will.Big ego is the greatest culprit to overcome problems.

    Past is past in Bangkok.At this moment we have a few good positive minded people here in Bangkok and we are sure good things will happen in future.

    Any agitating blogs can make things go backwards. Any way,this is your business.So you decide. God bless us all and help us with wisdom. I am sure wisdom is not sold in the market.You will agree with us that Wars are fought on ground but peace is achieved on table.

    You can always contact me at my above given e-mail.

    Harry

    EDITORIAL RESPONSE Harry, the email you provided is not recognised.

  • Concerned player on November 26, 2007, 1:57 GMT

    Your technical difficulties in not removing the postings is understandable. But if you hear that the 2 fighting factions (CAT and BCL) have got into a compromise and are moving forward with the game, don't you think it will be wise and nice on your part to remove this page and contribute towards peace and harmony. Till the fighting continues, this page is fine. The moment an agreement is reached between CAT and BCL, the comments if kept lying here will keep defeating the cause. The recent comments that have come from Mr. Martin (your executive director) on another cricinfo page may some what be the truth but are highly damaging. It might even ruin the ongoing compromise move. And if it so happens, cricinfo will have played the part of 'destroyer in chief'. This page if removed immediately will go in the interest of Thailand cricket. It can re-appear if the compromise process here is dismissed. It's nice that cricinfo provides this platform for people to voice their concerns. At the same time it will be nice to see cricinfo lending an ear, understanding the exact ground situation and then removing the unwanted material from it's pages thus helping the cause. Well ! that was my concern and suggestion. I leave to your wisdom.

  • Sunny on November 25, 2007, 12:20 GMT

    We all would be very happy that Cricinfo removes all the damaging messages from this blog called Trouble in Thailand.We would love some peace and harmony here.Lets start a new chapter of good cricket in Bangkok.If any one has personal grudges or problems,please settle them out side.BCL and CAT has already rechaed some understanding which is mentioned by some cricketers having great understanding.Thanks every one.

    EDITOIRAL RESPONSE: We do not publish some comments because they are libellous or offensive, but do not remove or censor postings because people do not like what is being side, one way or the other.

  • Micky on November 24, 2007, 8:32 GMT

    Hi ,Just brought to our notice by our captain about recent developments in Bangkok cricket.Well done bangkok cricketers.You are on the right path.Waiting to play some good cricket.Glad to know BCL is appointing working committee as well.Looking forward to paly some good cricket.Good luck.

  • Robin on November 20, 2007, 11:45 GMT

    Yes,I fully agree with you.Vaughan and all other important people should take the lead and settle all problems.I think it is good news that BCL has been allowed to run the league again.I cannot wait to see all the guys back on field.Sure,we will be fools if we reject this offer.I should thanks CAT for changing their position.I know Vaughan and others can run it smoothly just like the past years.Lets see if fortune teller is right or wrong? What do you think guys!

  • Danish on November 20, 2007, 8:28 GMT

    This week we will decide. It is collective decision of all member teams from BCL.This is real democracy and all teams have rights to decide. Smiles!

    Sure,we all want to play cricket.Why to reject it?It does not make any sense.So many people worked hard on this peace process.We are getting the league back in our hands.We say "yes".Come on BCL cheer up!Play cricket and be happy.

  • Gorden on November 20, 2007, 5:46 GMT

    Cricketers, Fortune teller could be right.Lets make him right even if his prediction might fall short if peace does not happen.BCL wanted to run league independently.CAT has given them their consent and a positive node.Now it is upto BCL to take it or leave it.If the BCL member teams reject the offer then who can blame CAT??First step of development ,take the league and enjoy Cricket.No one should get greedy.Instead join hands to make this peace process be successful. Let's play some cricket!

  • Fortune Teller on November 19, 2007, 15:40 GMT

    Cricket will start January 2008. A junior tournament being held in Bangkok is taking some time to prepare the field and when the tournament is done, the holidays will be upon us. I predict many teams to play and enjoy cricket until the rain stops them. Start practicing now as I see it will be a full season of competitive cricket. Many happy faces and good cricket will be played......play please gentlemen!

  • Treaty on November 18, 2007, 5:05 GMT

    Whats up! Any treaty or secret talks between CAT & BCL? I agree to" Announce the results". Please make it public if there is any progress,will you? Just do not meet to mislead local cricketers.We need some action plan. Any cricket league this year? Come out with some truth.

  • ANNOUCE THE RESULTS on November 15, 2007, 4:31 GMT

    What is happening in Thailand cricket? Have you reached any conclusions to your problems? Any peace or compromise? Do you think boys will be able to play some cricket? Please update the cricket community here in Bangkok. Also please define positions and portfolios in CAT and BCL. Now it is time to know what is going on and who is who. Cricketers in Bangkok have all rights to know the working style of CAT and BCL. We want to know the names of committee member in CAT board, national selection board, name of national coach and other coaches, facilities available for cricketers, league schedules, grounds available. Mind you it is time to update information.

  • Ambassador on November 14, 2007, 4:43 GMT

    How much cricket do you guys play?Why keep fighting?Sports is for relaxation and recreation.I understand your passion for cricket.Once cricket goes to your blood streams,it just rules.You can never stop your love for this game.If Peace cannot be made by good ways,diplomatic ways then you must stand together to fight.Stand against the non-ethical governing bodies.Start the revolt.Remove both the factions and set up new stream of leaders who can take good care of you guys.Get together your strength.You are the players.You have the democratic right to govern yourselves.If teams not there,there will be no association,no chairman,no league coordinator.Forget them.

    Why respect these power hungry people who have their own motives.Stupid ACC/ICC does not care for your plight.Killing cricket game here,does not bother these people who have ego problems.There are many school and universities who have grounds here.May be smaller in size but still good enough to play some cricket.No need to beg to these tyrants.Selfish and stupid personalities.

  • Accountant on November 12, 2007, 15:27 GMT

    Sports authority of Thailand has no knowledge how much money involved in this game and rules of game.Funds do not come to CAT's account rather goes to the personal account of governing body.No one is sure if CAT has any account or does it?

    Local cricketers pay and play league so not concerned about money matters.So who can tell what is going on?Sure ACC/ICC do get a cut of the booty.Deaf ears,blind eyes and dumb people.So what is the choice?

  • Concerned Cricketer on November 11, 2007, 14:56 GMT

    Whats happening at present?

    Are there two separate leagues taking place?

    How will grounds and such be allocated?

    The sad thing is that all the national teams are suffering because of this whole facade. Thailand Cricket is currently being run by about 4 or 5 people who coach, manage grounds, arrange tournaments, and represent Thailand at the ACC/ICC because of lack of funding. The national teams have no sponsors, and there aren't any worthy facilities and grounds for the national teams to train regularly on.

    Sad to say the effects of this have been shown in the national teams' performances over the last two years

    The senior team could only beat Iran in 2006 The U-19s lost all their 5 games at the U-19 World Cup Qualifier this year The U-15s couldn't beat Bhutan last december For an ICC associate member, this is absolutely ludricrous.

  • zippy on November 11, 2007, 7:06 GMT

    Election Commisioner,

    Why should Mr Vaughan run again? He was elected democratically and then outsed by Seghal who couldn't bare to lose his grip on the purse strings of Thai cricket. Let the Elite have there own league, there are plenty of us who couldn't care less about them, and are happy to get on with it. We are the majority, not the minority. If Seghal has a decent bone in his body, then he'll do the right thing for the game and stand down. Sadly, we all know the answear to that.

  • Candidate on November 11, 2007, 4:59 GMT

    That is a great idea so lets do it.....I am keen for it again. May the one with the best plan for the future of Thai Cricket and the one who gets his/her hands dirty implementing this plan...win.

  • election commissioner on November 10, 2007, 6:14 GMT

    Hi cricketers, This is the unknown election commissioner.Let us have elections again and see who wins with fair play.If any one in the past won or lost can contest again.The winner will lead and cricket will be played.Do you think it is bad idea?WHat do you think Mr. Ravi and Mr.Vaughan?I am sure there will be more contestents this time.Cricketers will have at least a third choice.Come on guys! give us break.. will you??

  • Legend on November 9, 2007, 9:51 GMT

    Cricketer, there will be peace in Thailand as soon as the democratically elected incumbent is in his rightful place as chairman, a man who will do a wonderful job for all those playing this great game in Thailand. There is no ego attached with him, just a love of the game and wanting to see it blossom at all levels and for people of all races and eco-social backgrounds. The sooner the ruling elite step aside there will be peace. Gee, sounds a bit like what's happening in various countries in our region. Those that have power and don't want to relinquish at any cost.

  • Trouble No End on November 8, 2007, 6:55 GMT

    Hey cricketer,Trouble in Thailand cricket will never end.No one knows what is happening.So the blog will remain here for ever.

  • cricketer on November 3, 2007, 7:20 GMT

    I saw one damaging e-mail yesterday and a reply was posted for the same.I am glad that such damaging messages are removed from the blog.I appreciate who ever did it.This will not spoil relationship of all concerned in Thailand cricket.

    I would be happy that Cricinfo removes all these messages from this blog called Trouble in Thailand.We would love some peace and harmony here.Lets start a new chapter of good cricket in Bangkok.Thanks every one.

  • website on October 31, 2007, 6:00 GMT

    The website is currently been updated.Take it easy.In the mean time go and play golf>>>>> or just go and drink beer<<<<<<

  • league on October 30, 2007, 11:26 GMT

    Hold on every one! What is a league?What is an official league and what is private league? Who should control leagues?In what ways it is connected to any associations?How much it costs to run leagues? What does it give to the people who control the leagues? If individual/team wants to play cricket,does it mean have to be a member of a particular league?Why can't they be independent?Who can appoint president/chairman? Who can decide which one is a better organizer? How can one guarantee that if you can do well,someone else cannot? So many questions? I think a lot of questions. Cricket is turning to be cricket battle field.Playing golf could be better option or else sit in the commentary box and shout or raise fingers.Great,now I know why Thai people do not understand cricket.They are so happy people.They smile and enjoy good life.So we should learn how to settle down and be happy

  • Chair story on October 30, 2007, 8:30 GMT

    Reading all above messages,I can feel it is all question of Chair story or who would like to control.Sorry guys!I would like to be honest.I will stop reading this blog.Keep fighting please.Good luck to all cricketers in Bangkok. It is hard to understand you cricketers in Bangkok.So fed up!

  • Playing Golf Now on October 29, 2007, 13:06 GMT

    Can anyone ever get onto www.thailandcricket.com? I have tried over and over to get into this website to find out how much cricket is going forward and each time I try........I am getting nowhere!! Says something hey? Back to golf in the countryside.

  • Cricket Supporter Forever on October 29, 2007, 2:45 GMT

    To put it in cricketing parlance. It wouldn't be difficult to move the previous Chairman out if he was able to realise that he has nicked one straight to the keeper. The players have gone up, the snicko is off the chart, Bill Lawry is screaming in the commentary box "GONE, GOT HIIIIM", the umpires finger has gone up, but much in the vein of the playground bully, "My pitch, my stumps, boo hoo, I'm in."

    Obviously the only way to get him out is to clean bowl the man.

    Of course in the modern day, the match referree would have banned the chairman for dissent against the umpire. Where are you ACC/ICC?

  • Thailand cricket on October 27, 2007, 4:59 GMT

    Dear young cricketer, Why don't you find some time to think and plan how to change the old guard?Why don't you go directly to the man in the chair and ask him to hand over the leadership to Vaughan? What and how much have you contributed to cricket in Thailand cricket? How much pssion do you have for this game? Do you have enough time for cricket?How often you play cricket?Evaluate first. Sorry no use just talking.Have the gutts and speak out. You can find the address in www.thailandcricket.com Please do not add fuel to the fire.Things are taking shape very soon.Just enjoy your cricket. Good luck young man!

  • Struggling in thailand cricket on October 25, 2007, 3:12 GMT

    Well... As we all know, thailand cricket needs to get a new leader. Why is it so hard to get Ravi Sehgal out of the chair and bring Vaughan in. We all saw that Vaughan helps everyone in thailand cricket and therefore he is the rightful owner of the chair. We can not loose hope and we have to organise CAT and bring the favortism and racism down to an end!

    All the young cricketers need a coach that supports them and Vaughan looks like the ideal coach.

  • Gill Roger on October 23, 2007, 13:42 GMT

    After hearing from one ex-cricketers that acting chairman is not a problem as no one has ever seen him around and geting involved in any agendas but his advisors are no good.These advisors are members of CAT committee appointed by him coz most of them are RBSC members and one outspoken outsider.They misguide him for personal benefits.They are crazy & power hungry.I can bet they are spoiling his image.To run organized CAT,he needs to bring in professionals .I can imagine their positions.They will never allow solutions to the prevailing problems otherwise they will lose their importance.So watch out guys!

  • Micky on October 20, 2007, 9:54 GMT

    Wow!Hey man..We appreciate your thoughts.Glad to know some one who is not criticizin any one and trying to mend things.It is my 1st time reading this site and i can see a lot of bad things.Shame for us. We need people like you here in Thailand.I am with you.I am a keen cricketer playing A division here and we had lot of fun last year.We want to enjoy same atmosphere again.A lot of people are not interested in league division.We have learnt a lot from our senior players.We request the governing bodies to relax and soften their positions and let cricket start.Life in Bangkok is busy and full of headache.We need some relaxation.Since cricket goes in the blood,itis difficult to sop playing.We are still young and sometime difficult to find 11 people to play.Please motivate people and lets enjoy cricket. Thanks you. Micky

  • Cricket Lover Forever on October 20, 2007, 9:40 GMT

    Prescient Statement

    "Whatever we do, we do for the good of the game".

  • Tom & Jerry on October 20, 2007, 6:47 GMT

    Hi cricketers, Long time no see! How is cricket game in Bangkok? Must be doing well? or still wandering around? Lots of cricket in Malaysia and soon good cricket will start in Cambodia.Are you guys still finding ways to start the season? Is it some thing like BCCI and ICL? We do not have such problems in the western world.People have differences but when it comes to Cricket,we are all one.What ever we do,we do for good game of cricket.No ego,no question of image or prestige.Nothing can shake the trust of cricketers.I suggest you guys a nice way to setle down.Just play the game.Enjoy cricket.Do not get involved in politics,groupism.Help those and join hands with guys who are trying to help in promoting this game here.Let the game flourish. I am sure you will enjoy the game.Believe me this game was played by the lords and we common people should feel proud for playing it. Love and respect the sport.It is for recreation and not for fighting.If you want to fight? stop it.Play the game,score good runs,bowl well and enjoy it. Good luck mates!

  • Cricket Supporter Forever on October 14, 2007, 11:31 GMT

    Yes indeed, politics are winning the day in Thai cricket. It is such a shame. People are trying to siphon teams away from the main league. People are trying to commandeer pitches in an attempt to actually limit WHO plays cricket.

    If this is cricket development I would ask anyone to look in the dictionary for the definition of development. It is a crying shame what is going on and it is absolutely obvious that many of the people who have appointed themselves in the running of cricket (in direct opposition to the vote that was held) have absolutely no interest in true cricket development at all.

    The Under 15's are heading off next month. Here's hoping that they can actually find 11 kids of this age who can all hold a bat. This story will run and run until it all implodes.

  • Playing Golf Now on October 13, 2007, 9:01 GMT

    Seems like this definition is still going with this sport in the land of smiles, this has not changed for 12 years hence me retiring and playing golf!

    Not sure the reason why though but by what I read and know from the city people, personal egos are not the whole story. I have kept track of this cricket over the years and it seems it has been going well and has grown in size to about 20 teams in what I see is 3 divisions.Websites, photos, stats and my daily newspaper is even spilling out numerous stories so in my view, would that already be good cricket? I wish I had that where I live!! Now I understand that it has gone back to being controlled by a committee made up from all the same popular sports club here in town, the RBSC, and the set up of the cricket changed to include less teams.......is that good cricket? Or is that a single entity of people looking after their own egos?

    Maybe talk about it over a game of golf away from the smoky and hazy dim of the city......

  • Retiring from cricket coz of tiring cricket plitics on October 12, 2007, 9:13 GMT

    Hi mates! Welcome to cricket club of Thailand..if you fail to enter this site then try cricket in Bangkok.

    The sport we play here is politics but we name it cricket so people around the world know we have cricket here in this country of smiles.Smiles also cost here in this country so is cricket league matches no matter who is running it.

    We have many version of cricket here...eg. hide and seek , backbiting, groupism and so on.Basically we are not interested in playing cricket but love to spoil things,cause trouble,abuse,demoralize others and of course run for our own interests.Lot of people around have so many good things to do but we cannot even think how to play good cricket.Books explains cricket as gentleman's game and discipline and full of respect but we are still searching for meanings of such definition.Is it the wrong sport we selected to play or wrong country to play cricket or else playing among bad guys...or governed by non ethical blocks running it.Ego is the best option here and just because of ego problems ,people fighting to run it will ruin the interest of still cricket playing lads.

    Now cannot waste our time any more.So better retire from this tiring cricket.

  • Another Concerned Administrator on September 28, 2007, 14:59 GMT

    Answer to Q1 - the other teams are better, maybe give Thailand more time?? Answer to Q2 - The National Teams do NOT have any sponsors and if so, who are they? Answer to Q3 - There are the RBSC & RBSC Polo grounds in Bangkok. Both are privately run grounds by the Royal Bangkok Sports Club and used from November thru May. AIT Ground at Rangsit is owned by the Asian Institute of Technology. It has an Astro wicket which has been there for about 12 years and a turf wicket which was used in last years U15 Challenge Cup but then was never maintained after that for use by the local cricketers.It is hoping to be ready before the next tournament due in December. Two Grounds in Chiang Mai - both private. Give time and the correct administration of the game which sadly is screaming out for a change in the current powers dictating it and, maybe just then, the National Teams will be up to a level such as the South East Asian neighbours Singapore, Malaysia and Hong Kong.

  • Concerned Administrator on September 23, 2007, 10:26 GMT

    Why have Thailand been losing so consistently in every tournament they play?

    Why do the national teams have apparent sponsors?

    Why doesn't the national team have its own ground?

    Things like this translate onto the field and Thailand's onfield performances in the last 5 to 6 years have been quite shoddy for an ICC Associate member

  • Honest Cicketer.. disgusted situation on August 23, 2007, 13:35 GMT

    All concerned...

    Has any ever thought of putting all odds to some meaningful reconciliation.Every one talks but without knowing the truth or really going into the core of the trouble.What is the meaning of respect when a player goes and calls another player a Bastard??Abuses the national coach and calls him a Bastard? why???Uses filthy language etc.during the games and after the games and even abusing the umpires. There is cricket or no cricket?we can not use bad words to rape any one's respect away.Shameful act.. Hey guys! I have realized that all the concerned guys are running around for power and control.This tussel for power will spoil things for all.So many guys are involved in making things from bad to worst.All of them have hidden agendas.Politiains rather than ambassadors for good cricket in Thailand.Just because of this power race,the general cricketer will suffer.What do you think all the players around want?? Just good cricket and nothing else.Who is bothered to know who is running it?? Leave the cricketers alone. We are sick of those guys who are adding more fuel to the fire.Take up a different sport and stop fighting or make people fight. Everyone has respect and we should respect all.I have never seen any one clearly describing his intentions.They just say"Let me run it" Every one talks aboutincoming money from ACC and ICC and nothing about development.All crictics have been always avaiable to enjoy parties on both sides.Seems people are more diplomates rather than cricketers. Let me suggest you guys " you can develop or help in developing cricket without being the chief. Good Luck guys.

  • Thai Cricket Lover on August 14, 2007, 6:07 GMT

    I hear rumours of players being barred from playing matches because of their anti chairman stance.

    If this is true then this is absolutely pitiful. The CAT is trying to take control of all the pitches to decide which individuals can play!!! What are they going to do? March into the middle of a game and remove players from the pitch? Security around the pitch? Submission of players names and ejection of paid up members of clubs because they do not like the opinions of the individual players?

    It seems like cricket development is at the bottom of some people's priorities.

  • Skipper on July 12, 2007, 10:46 GMT

    Mr Wood, We all know that there will be no presentation to the public in Thailand about what is in store for Thailand Cricket so why should we waste our time.

    It is noted that Mr Ravi Sehgal is now elected to the ACC Executive committee. Well, congratulations to the man but I think that the ACC webmaster needs to get his facts straight about Mr Sehgal's position in Thailand Cricket. He is NOT the president. As per a letter handed out by the Sports Authority of Thailand and as endorsed by the CEO of the ACC, the president of the CAT is a Thai by the name of Lt.General Suebsan Dardarananda........how is became the president?.....I suppose that is another story to be told to the grandkids??

    Can someone please inform the ACC to correct their very informative webiste?

  • Nick Wood on July 11, 2007, 9:24 GMT

    Well now that the great and good have got together to set the agenda for cricket in Asia for the next year, is there any announcement to the clubs, players and members about what exactly is the plan for Thailand next year.

    Obviously something must have been discussed in the meeting concerning Thailand, and the head of the cricket advisory committee was there, so I am sure that a few people would like to know what is the plan.

  • Skipper on June 24, 2007, 13:48 GMT

    Looking at the home page of the ACC website, I see the ACC had it's AGM in Chennai recently and low and behold in the photo of all present, Mr Ravi Sehgal is present. How can this be when he was voted out on the CAT, then presented papers that to be the president, one had to be a Thai National and the real president of CAT was a Thai Lt General? It is clear now that he has no interest with Thai Cricket except that he just wants his continued trips to see his old school buddies at meetings such as this. I wonder if he took his note pad and pencil.........disgraceful that he is still involved in cricket and still prevents those who want to help from helping. Looks like Thailand will be receiving about 72,000USD soon from the ACC. At least use some of this to buy a Thailand Blazer Mr Sehgal!!

  • Zippy on March 31, 2007, 9:16 GMT

    This whole business is a disgrace to the name of cricket. What is even more incredible is that none of this has been mentioned at all in the local Bangkok press. The fact that Mr Seghal has effectively annexed the CAT for his own personal benefit and installed his cronies in position, without any apparent censorship from the ICC or ACC shows how toothless and spineless the organisations are.

    Cricket in Thailand can only develop if the unfortunate elitist attitudes of these people are not involved in the administration of the game. In essence the whole situation almost mirrors the current political climate in this country. Vaughan is an honest hardworking person who loves the game very much. As has been mentioned he is widely liked and respected.

    The only losers in this are the cricket lovers and the kids. Shame on you Mr Sehgal and your cronies - it is you who should take a hike and give the game back to the ones who actually care about the game.

  • Nick Wood on January 7, 2007, 6:50 GMT

    To Former Thai Cricketer, you are asking all the right questions, however, nobody knows whom to ask to get an answer.

    The biggest question with reference to your whole post is how can the ACC/ICC appear to be supporting this entire farce. They are providing funds, support, technical support and the national teams are participating in tournaments organised by them.

    To whom are they sending their funds now? Who is paying for the coaches? Who is attending meetings on behalf of the Thai Cricket Association?

    Presumably to be an active member of the ACC/ICC one has to provide evidence of constitutions, byelaws of your domestic association. If not, then me and a bunch of mates from the pub hereby declare ourselves the Thai Cricket Association and will be sending our letter to the sports authority tomorrow. We expect our cheque in the post asap.

    By the way, I am self appointed by my kids and friends to be president forever, I will see you all at the get together in Dubai. First Class ticket please.

  • Former Thai Cricketer on January 3, 2007, 5:45 GMT

    Cricketers across Thailand are now fully aware that following the conduct of a properly constituted Annual General Meeting of the Cricket Association of Thailand (CAT) on 9th November, that the incoming constitutionally elected committee was some week later, unceremoniously and unjustly overturned (without reference or notification) in a coup engineered by the de-throned Chairman. It seems this was achieved via the hasty drafting of undated correspondence forwarded to the ACC and the Sports Association of Thailand advising them that the ‘actual’ committee should be one consisting of a ‘Board’ of RBSC and family members none of whom attended the AGM nor were known to most of the 13 delegates attending the AGM.

    This unheralded, post-AGM action to produce an ‘out-of-the-hat’ and largely unknown group of gentlemen can be regarded as underhand, deceitful and fundamentally dishonest yet does beg a number of questions that member clubs should be asking. Where has this committee been all the time cricket has been running along quite nicely without them; what has each of them contributed to the on-going development of cricket in Thailand; where are the records, minutes and books of account from the past five years of this committee’s secret endeavours; over that period, what funding has the ICC and ACC provided and on what has it been spent; who controls and is authorized to secure those funds on behalf of the cricketing community; how often and for whom has funding been authorized for any individual member of this committee; what measures of accountability are in place to ensure transparency; when has advice of this committee’s operations and of the CAT’s financial situation been forwarded to CAT clubs and outlying cricketing communities; and under what Constitution has this committee been operating?

    With due respect to other correspondents in this column, it is not just a matter of ‘getting together for the betterment of cricket’ it is a question of trust, honesty and respect.

    It is apparent that these circumstances are not ‘in the best interests of cricket in Thailand’ nor of its continued growth and development, for where there is no trust and honesty, there will be limited and inadequate cooperation or support; where there is no respect, the status of cricket in Thailand and of its officers will be undermined, even ridiculed.

    Finally, if it was imperative that a ‘new’ albeit unknown Committee should be appointed then why couldn’t the Chairman elected by member clubs at the AGM have been nominated as ‘Honorary Chairman’, is there some hidden agenda here?

  • Upcountry Cricketer on December 18, 2006, 14:54 GMT

    I too have never seen any member of the "previous" committee let alone the incumbent chairman out and about amongst the provinces but yes, I have seen and met with others who dedicate their time and money to promoting this game outside of just Bangkok. Does the man in the White House just stay in Washington DC??? No, he gets out as he has a general interest in what he is presiding over!!!

    Time to step aside those whose time is up and let others get involved in a way which will see cricket move ahead in this country both in Bangkok and the Provinces. Thailand is doing so well at the present U15 tournament so don't you think these kids deserve a clearer and more defined future as to where THEIR cricket is going?

    Your race is run Mr Chairman, and as Mr Galdini says, step down in a manner befitting to a man who has has great responsibility and has made cricket grow in the past.

  • Les Norton on December 17, 2006, 3:48 GMT

    I've known both Vaughan and Ravi for over 7 years. Vaughan is liked by all involved in cricket in Thailand because he treats everyone with equal respect, as I am sure anybody who has met him will agree. Ravi on the other hand has been deceitful and is disliked (for good reason) even by everyone, even his allies because he looks after himself and treats others with disdain. How many times has Ravi gone upcountry to coach young kids or look at facilities? A great big donut is my guess. I've seen Vaughan in Chaing Mai, Khon Kaen and Petchaboon coaching kids and donating equipment, out of his own pocket mind you, as official funds seem to have been diverted to the personal bank accounts of ex-administrators.

  • Diego on December 14, 2006, 18:07 GMT

    I am a former player in Thailand who was also involved in the administration side as well.

    Back then you toed the line or else you risked not getting to play on the major grounds.

    For a minor sport, cricket was highlighted by an incredible amount of politicking and self interest. It is therefore very frustrating to still see that things haven't changed one bit.

    It would be a real shame and loss for the sport in Thailand if dedicated volunteers like Vaughan were to just thrown their hands up and say it's all too difficult and leave the situation to the mess that it is in now.

    Vaughan is a good guy, an underrated player in his own right and above all a very selfless and hard working servant of Thailand cricket.

  • Taco Bottema on December 14, 2006, 5:02 GMT

    Well. I suppose the story is true, and a strange tale it is. All the indignation is understandable. As others in their comments have said, the key is to get into communication with ACC. The proper committee should get the situation above the board; and maybe place it before the ACC board, when they meet. I would think the minutes and the reports of the election conbstitute legal evidence. Also, it seems wise to get into a talking process with the self elected person, to see why and what. I would assume relations with the appropriate ministry are important. Good luck!

  • Jeremy Nirmal on December 11, 2006, 16:45 GMT

    This is terrible to hear. Cricket is a sport which has amazing potential to develop but people like this are constantly bringing the sport down. At the end of the day all the people want to is play some good cricket. Lets hope that they can clear up this mess and get on with the game which we all love so much.

  • Nicholas Wood on December 11, 2006, 15:03 GMT

    There are no differences to bury and no political gains to be made or lost. Vaughan wanted to take the responsibility and help to move cricket forward. What is the problem with that? He won someone lost, end of story.

    If anyone thinks Vaughan is into this for the glory, one only has to see how much time and effort he give to his club and the league to know that he is simply in it for the benefit of cricket.

  • Hnest cricketer on December 11, 2006, 6:24 GMT

    "My passion for Cricket will never die" is quite right about the cricket and cricketers here in Thailand.It is not only him but also there are so many volunteers who are helping in development of Cricket here in Thailand. Volunteers are also human beings who want to be paid for their work not in form of money but in form of results which help in development of the game and healthy cricket.There is always a way out and we can start things all over to clean up the mess.As i have read that Ravi is a businessman and makes enough money from his businesses,I do not think little funds from ICC and ACC will make any difference in his wealth.President of CAT is just a honorary post and not a political institution and I am sure he respects cricket and cricket lovers in Thailand.

    Vaughan is also a good human being and has been helping cricket in Thailand for sometime.He has a good job and always busy in doing so many good things and sometimes it may mean nothing to others. People arranging Phuket sixes,RBSC 6's,Chiangmai 6's and Hua Hin 6's are great help in making this sport felt and played in this country. So lets appeal to both the parties to shed off their differences and come forward and join hands to clear up this mess.Please do not let this chance go away.

  • Concerned Onlooker on December 10, 2006, 22:58 GMT

    It is a shame to see that the volunteers spending so much effort supporting Cricket and it's development are tied up with political gain. How secure are the funds in this environment? Coup or no Coup this is not in the best interest of Cricket for Thailand. Please be sensible and allow the members voted to the Committee stand and be counted as in a real democracy. This is neither the time or place to seek personal gain - allow the real position holders to do the job they were elected to. If not not only Cricket but the Thai economy may suffer as this news spreads through the Cricketing Community local and abroad many of the visitors to the ICC matches will choose not to attend in the coming years. I for one will not tour next years Chaiang Mai or Phuket sixes if this is not sorted out soon. Build a bridge and get over it guys.

  • My passion for Cricket will never die on December 9, 2006, 6:54 GMT

    I agree to Terry "Unfortunately there are too many people who are out to look after their own interests rather than the interests of cricket development in Thailand " and there are people who supported the contender for the post of President as they did not have the gutts to stand against the present one.This means those people would have contested against the contender in the next election.Sorry guys! your deams can never become true as you are lookig for your own selfish motto and not for real efforts to develop cricket here.There has to be cricket forum here to discuss the programmes initiated by ACC,ICC or CAT.Goals have to be redefined,constitution has to be discussed,required changes to be made and most important thing is to bring changes according to the situation here in Thailand. If Malaysia can do it,we can do it as well to screen this game to bring awareness.Teams here intend to win games irrepective to the norms and going for a kill to win a game or a trophy which will cost a player his life if injured.Please do not think of blood but passion.I think the best thing is to invite all the teams or their representatives and let everyone put their ideas and dicuss what has to be done next.I am sure the governing body will work for development of cricket as the game itelf is by the cricketers,of the cricketers and for the cricketers. Lets be constructive.I think the most important thing is that good cricket is played here.Everyone appreciates the the man(Vaughan) for taking care of the league successfully for last few seasons. I think ,lets give a chance to these two guys and the commitee members to Vote for development of Cricket and resolve their disputes and don't think of making money or hold the highest position for thier personal benefits.

  • Gavin on December 9, 2006, 2:58 GMT

    As an active supporter of cricket in Thailand for many years, it is a sad state when politics takes over from due process in a sport that has seen great development in recent years from a band of very loyel volunteers who give their time and money for the thai people and their enjoyment of the game.

    Surely something can, and must, be done to ensure that cricket in Thailand is allowed to develop its full potentialunder the guidance of the elected, dedicated cricket loving committee.

  • terry skillett on December 8, 2006, 22:27 GMT

    As somebody that has tried for the last 19 years to help with the development of cricket in Thailand, I am not surprised to hear of the strange goings on at the recent election in Bangkok. Having met several reps. of the ACC in Chiang Mai and been promised help with our development program for Thai school children on numerous occasions, and of course received precious little , it should be no surprise that the ACC have done nothing to solve the problem.

    Unfortunately there are too many people who are out to look after their own interests rather than the interests of cricket development in Thailand which sadly means there will be little if any advance in the development to look forward to in Thailand .

  • Kenny Galdini on December 8, 2006, 10:23 GMT

    It gives me extreme discomfort to realise how a single entity can cause such abbyss. The Ex-Chairman obviously does not like to be away from the spotlight and will do anything to get a piece of the action, not to mention the added benefits of controling the finances recieved from the benovolent ICC / ACC.

    What I fail to understand is why does he not step down in the manner befitting a person who holds a position of such responsibility rather than get involved in making things difficult for the managing body. Being a part of Thailand Cricket once, I only want to see it prosper and reach new hieghts but for that to happen, there needs to be a radical change in the Governing Body and as I thought the winds of change were here, it seems the decision was not taken to lightly and all is being done to jeopardise the progress of cricket. At the end of this all, there will be only one loser - The game itself - which I think some people obviously do not realise and holding power plump positions is what is more appealing to them...... then just move aside and let the game grow with the help of those who wish to see it grow without the need for personal glory

  • Active Cricketer in Thaland on December 8, 2006, 9:37 GMT

    How did Cricket develop in Thailand all these years?Who helped it grow?I suppose not any of the persons who have been writing their comments.There is always a period when things need to change but one has to find proper remedies and solutions.I am sure all the educated people and professors in Cricket are gentleman enough to sit and talk.Please do not air misunderstandings between the two guys who are really working out to develop cricket here in Bangkok and of course in Thailand.We are short of criket facilities in Thailand as the locals do not know the sport and hopefully sports authority is looking into it.Just by accusing this guy or that guy will not do any good to anyone. Lets put our hands and minds together and develop this game here.We need to encourage all to work out solutions and ways to clear disputes among the governing body.One does not have to hold a post to do good for community,country or cricket.Passion is one thing which keeps our love for this game in this country.Both the gentleman have worked together before and i am sure they can work together again after all they both are good cricketers. Please goto thailandcricket.com and see the development of cricket here in this country. I am sure i am not being partial with any of them but for God's sake Let Cricket grow more.

  • Mr Anonymous on December 7, 2006, 13:06 GMT

    It seems things are certainly out of hand. The former president Mr Ravi Sehgal is alleged to be the person behind all this deceit, and he happens to be friends with people at both the ACC and Sports Authority of Thailand.

    Apparently he has banned a coach from the Royal Bangkok Sports Club just because the coach showed support for the Australian who won the election. Sour grapes, deceit and a complete disregard for Thailand cricket seems to be the normal for him.

  • Michael Maher on December 7, 2006, 9:18 GMT

    How can this happen when there is a constitution for CAT? Seems a vote was taken, agreed by all at the AGM and passed.

    Then, something untoward goes on behind the scenes and suddenly there are names of a family and other people who do not know cricket, down as the Full Committee of CAT. This then becomes recognised by the Sports Authority and the ACC. Seems odd to me, seeing a vote by those involved in cricket in Thailand had taken place, under the constitution!

    I note that no names are being used to inform all those interested who is behind all of this.

    Seemed to me that finally some positive were starting to happen with Thai Cricket, now this, now all may go backwards. I am very sorry to hear all of this.

  • Rob Bounce on December 7, 2006, 4:39 GMT

    Question is at this time? Is the Cricket Association of Thailand really registered with the Sports Authority of Thailand. There has never been any "original" documents displayed to the Thai cricket community. They most probably are not aware of what is happening. The ACC are hiding behind the rule book here .. .Who knows, cricket is a funny game hey!

  • Vijay Singh on December 6, 2006, 16:57 GMT

    I agree with you completely Bob. There is no reason for the ACC to support such a deceitful committee. They are hiding behind their policy of not interfering with local politics, yet by doing so they are allowing the wrong people to control a lot of money.

    I wonder why the Sports Authority of Thailand are sitting back allowing such behaviour to occur. They are the department charged with ensuring all sports are run correctly, and I question if they are fully aware of all the facts here. Maybe somebody should advise them of the whole truth and only then democracy will prevail.

  • Bob Simmons on December 5, 2006, 19:09 GMT

    What I find interesting is that the writer did not expound on the following sentence:

    "Interestingly this appears to be supported by the ACC for some strange reason."

    What could POSSIBLY be the reason to support something like this???

  • Nicholas Wood on December 5, 2006, 13:54 GMT

    Which committee? No one knows 99% of the people on the new committee, and this committee knows nothing about cricket or cricket in Thailnd. They are not even a real committee since they have been shoe-horned into existence in the last month.

    The money is not the issue, it is about good governance. The vote was held, a person stood against the incumbent.

    The person standing alongside the incumbent had organised in his own time many tournaments and games, he had fundraised and provided funds to help the provinces thru his own club and himself. He and many others have given themselves selflessly to the cause. He won, end of story, and the incumbent should stand aside.

    How can a legitimate vote be organised by the INCUMBENT president and then when he does not win, but declared null and void. We may be living under military rule, but the people have spoken. Thai cricket was small but had a chance to grow.

    Now it looks like a farce. I have been involved with Kader and his team very closely, they do a great job, but they need an organised coherent structure to get ahead. I have put my hand in my pocket to help local cricket, but I will not now. They have a great bunch of kids around the country, but, this vote was a great chance to give them a great opportunity to progress. It is now lost

  • Vijay Singh on December 5, 2006, 3:12 GMT

    The ICC fund only US$27,000 a year to Thailand for cricket development, while the ACC funding is somewhere around the US$100,000 mark. The ACC funding is designated by the ACC asto where the funding is to go, and they require the funding to go to the national squad development. This IS where the money goes, as can be seen by the improvement in the national sides in the last few years through the fabulous work of Mohideen Kader and his team.

    The Cricket Association of Thailand is expected to raise their own funds for development of regional cricket, as does every other country in the ACC. This is where it all falls down, and the priority of the committee needs to focus on that aspect more.

  • Les Norton on December 4, 2006, 4:12 GMT

    How much does the ICC give Thailand every year? A significant sum would be my guess.

    Having played in the Thai league for more than 10 years I'd like to see where the money is going cos it ain't reaching the kids in Khon Kaen, who play on a dust bowl for a ground, and most of their gear is donated by locals and Bangkok expats.

    Perhaps someone involved with upcountry cricket would like to comment on the Petchabun and Chiang Mai kids.

  • Rob Bounce on December 1, 2006, 22:38 GMT

    It is a shame to read such things are happening in a country like Thailand. I have seen at first hand the hard work put in by so many committed helpers over the years.

    I have attended in recent times, tournaments held in Bangkok and met with the staff who organise these tournaments in their own time and out of their love for the game. I have come to know in the past that certain administrators are there in their positions just for social recognition and are not actively involved in the cricket. It is indeed a shame and one could just hope that these people wake up and move on from their never ever dream that they are in.....gents, the old school era finshed years ago!

    As Mr Wood states, the ICC/ACC may turn the other cheek which could be possible considering what other messes they are trying to clean up but I do hope that they can foresee the potential that Thailand has for cricket as well as being a region which could play hosts to many tournaments due to its low costs and location.

    To those who keep at it trying to promote the cricket despite the "politics", I applaud your work. To the others, can you actually ask yourself and come up with a valid answer to this question....."Why do I do this?"

    Years ago, cricket was a pleasure to be involved with in Bangkok but these days, it must be hard to keep interested when some are feeding on and reaping the rewards gained from the hard work of others?? Shame on you ... time to let go and move on!

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  • Rob Bounce on December 1, 2006, 22:38 GMT

    It is a shame to read such things are happening in a country like Thailand. I have seen at first hand the hard work put in by so many committed helpers over the years.

    I have attended in recent times, tournaments held in Bangkok and met with the staff who organise these tournaments in their own time and out of their love for the game. I have come to know in the past that certain administrators are there in their positions just for social recognition and are not actively involved in the cricket. It is indeed a shame and one could just hope that these people wake up and move on from their never ever dream that they are in.....gents, the old school era finshed years ago!

    As Mr Wood states, the ICC/ACC may turn the other cheek which could be possible considering what other messes they are trying to clean up but I do hope that they can foresee the potential that Thailand has for cricket as well as being a region which could play hosts to many tournaments due to its low costs and location.

    To those who keep at it trying to promote the cricket despite the "politics", I applaud your work. To the others, can you actually ask yourself and come up with a valid answer to this question....."Why do I do this?"

    Years ago, cricket was a pleasure to be involved with in Bangkok but these days, it must be hard to keep interested when some are feeding on and reaping the rewards gained from the hard work of others?? Shame on you ... time to let go and move on!

  • Les Norton on December 4, 2006, 4:12 GMT

    How much does the ICC give Thailand every year? A significant sum would be my guess.

    Having played in the Thai league for more than 10 years I'd like to see where the money is going cos it ain't reaching the kids in Khon Kaen, who play on a dust bowl for a ground, and most of their gear is donated by locals and Bangkok expats.

    Perhaps someone involved with upcountry cricket would like to comment on the Petchabun and Chiang Mai kids.

  • Vijay Singh on December 5, 2006, 3:12 GMT

    The ICC fund only US$27,000 a year to Thailand for cricket development, while the ACC funding is somewhere around the US$100,000 mark. The ACC funding is designated by the ACC asto where the funding is to go, and they require the funding to go to the national squad development. This IS where the money goes, as can be seen by the improvement in the national sides in the last few years through the fabulous work of Mohideen Kader and his team.

    The Cricket Association of Thailand is expected to raise their own funds for development of regional cricket, as does every other country in the ACC. This is where it all falls down, and the priority of the committee needs to focus on that aspect more.

  • Nicholas Wood on December 5, 2006, 13:54 GMT

    Which committee? No one knows 99% of the people on the new committee, and this committee knows nothing about cricket or cricket in Thailnd. They are not even a real committee since they have been shoe-horned into existence in the last month.

    The money is not the issue, it is about good governance. The vote was held, a person stood against the incumbent.

    The person standing alongside the incumbent had organised in his own time many tournaments and games, he had fundraised and provided funds to help the provinces thru his own club and himself. He and many others have given themselves selflessly to the cause. He won, end of story, and the incumbent should stand aside.

    How can a legitimate vote be organised by the INCUMBENT president and then when he does not win, but declared null and void. We may be living under military rule, but the people have spoken. Thai cricket was small but had a chance to grow.

    Now it looks like a farce. I have been involved with Kader and his team very closely, they do a great job, but they need an organised coherent structure to get ahead. I have put my hand in my pocket to help local cricket, but I will not now. They have a great bunch of kids around the country, but, this vote was a great chance to give them a great opportunity to progress. It is now lost

  • Bob Simmons on December 5, 2006, 19:09 GMT

    What I find interesting is that the writer did not expound on the following sentence:

    "Interestingly this appears to be supported by the ACC for some strange reason."

    What could POSSIBLY be the reason to support something like this???

  • Vijay Singh on December 6, 2006, 16:57 GMT

    I agree with you completely Bob. There is no reason for the ACC to support such a deceitful committee. They are hiding behind their policy of not interfering with local politics, yet by doing so they are allowing the wrong people to control a lot of money.

    I wonder why the Sports Authority of Thailand are sitting back allowing such behaviour to occur. They are the department charged with ensuring all sports are run correctly, and I question if they are fully aware of all the facts here. Maybe somebody should advise them of the whole truth and only then democracy will prevail.

  • Rob Bounce on December 7, 2006, 4:39 GMT

    Question is at this time? Is the Cricket Association of Thailand really registered with the Sports Authority of Thailand. There has never been any "original" documents displayed to the Thai cricket community. They most probably are not aware of what is happening. The ACC are hiding behind the rule book here .. .Who knows, cricket is a funny game hey!

  • Michael Maher on December 7, 2006, 9:18 GMT

    How can this happen when there is a constitution for CAT? Seems a vote was taken, agreed by all at the AGM and passed.

    Then, something untoward goes on behind the scenes and suddenly there are names of a family and other people who do not know cricket, down as the Full Committee of CAT. This then becomes recognised by the Sports Authority and the ACC. Seems odd to me, seeing a vote by those involved in cricket in Thailand had taken place, under the constitution!

    I note that no names are being used to inform all those interested who is behind all of this.

    Seemed to me that finally some positive were starting to happen with Thai Cricket, now this, now all may go backwards. I am very sorry to hear all of this.

  • Mr Anonymous on December 7, 2006, 13:06 GMT

    It seems things are certainly out of hand. The former president Mr Ravi Sehgal is alleged to be the person behind all this deceit, and he happens to be friends with people at both the ACC and Sports Authority of Thailand.

    Apparently he has banned a coach from the Royal Bangkok Sports Club just because the coach showed support for the Australian who won the election. Sour grapes, deceit and a complete disregard for Thailand cricket seems to be the normal for him.

  • Active Cricketer in Thaland on December 8, 2006, 9:37 GMT

    How did Cricket develop in Thailand all these years?Who helped it grow?I suppose not any of the persons who have been writing their comments.There is always a period when things need to change but one has to find proper remedies and solutions.I am sure all the educated people and professors in Cricket are gentleman enough to sit and talk.Please do not air misunderstandings between the two guys who are really working out to develop cricket here in Bangkok and of course in Thailand.We are short of criket facilities in Thailand as the locals do not know the sport and hopefully sports authority is looking into it.Just by accusing this guy or that guy will not do any good to anyone. Lets put our hands and minds together and develop this game here.We need to encourage all to work out solutions and ways to clear disputes among the governing body.One does not have to hold a post to do good for community,country or cricket.Passion is one thing which keeps our love for this game in this country.Both the gentleman have worked together before and i am sure they can work together again after all they both are good cricketers. Please goto thailandcricket.com and see the development of cricket here in this country. I am sure i am not being partial with any of them but for God's sake Let Cricket grow more.