New age May 7, 2007

A vice too early

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Mohammad Asif, the McGrath of Sheikhapura, has been appointed Pakistan's vice-captain. This is a bold move by the PCB, who have now firmly stated their intention to invest in a new generation of Pakistan cricketers. Already, Asif has shown himself to be an outstanding fast bowler, somebody whose career might reach astronomical heights.

He is a feisty bowler with an engaging on-field persona. But just as early he has fallen into the snare of nandrolone, inadvertently if we are to believe his protestations - and there is no reason not to. A WADA inquiry hangs over him. If I were working for WADA I would consider only one thing worse than a suspect sportsman playing international sport, and that would be a suspect sportsman in a position of responsibility.

Mohammad Asif might well be a judicious choice as vice captain but it is injudicious to appoint him before the WADA business is done. A vice too early for the young man's good.

Kamran Abbasi is an editor, writer and broadcaster. He tweets here

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  • sohan on June 19, 2007, 9:45 GMT

    I think afridi is the best choice for vice captiancy.He is a world class one-day bowler. I like his bowling very much.He is the bright future of Pakistan.

  • zeeshan on June 17, 2007, 7:55 GMT

    i think a bowler should not be given as a post of any captancy

  • tony afzal on June 14, 2007, 13:38 GMT

    Want to solve Pakistan's growing and menacing "NWFP" problem ? Make Shahid Afridi the Captain of the Pakistan team. Everyone up there will drop their AK-47s and pick up cricket bats instead. Guaranteed!

  • Raja Pakistani on May 15, 2007, 19:00 GMT

    Mahmmod Butt said above:

    "Kamran Akmal learned lot of things from his mentor Inzamam. I am sure, he will improve his keeping skills as he grows. Keep it up."

    what a hack? Is it our cricket team or child development program?

    We need skilled players in the team, this is not a testing team. Kick him this keeper out, he can not carry ball in his gloves.

    Raja Sailkot

    First of all writing of Butt is not good. He thinks PUNJAB is a Pakistan

  • karim on May 15, 2007, 18:40 GMT

    yahhh....best of luck pakistann..i hope that the team will support shoaib malik..BEST OF LUCK

  • Nadeem Shafee on May 15, 2007, 18:38 GMT

    After the worst defeat in the last world cup, I do not see any big change in the team. Only two new desreving players include in the team. Now we need to see how new captain will give them chance in playing eleven?

    Unfortunately after dropping more than 100 catches Kamran Akmal still the member of the team. Mr. Butt & Malik(above) wants to make him Vice Captain because of his background. Razzak still in the team. He always unfit against strong opponents, he also the leader of player power mafia. I do not see any big change in the attitude of PCB, only new some new names with same policies.

    Where are deserving players like Khalid Latif, Khurrum Manzoor, Sarfraz Ahmed, Anwar Ali, Aziz ul haq, Jameshead?

    Nadeem UK

  • Ashaq on May 15, 2007, 18:32 GMT

    Awas chill out Bro,my remarks concerning Asif were made in jest,it was a spin on the word 'Vice'.

    Your comment concerning Flintoff is incorrect. Dear old Freddy Flintoff was stripped of the Vice-Captaincy after his drinking escapade during the World Cup he was also given a heavy fine and was ostracised in the British press.

    Although he was originally being touted as the future captain of England and a succesor to Michael Vaughan,his name is no longer in contention,due to his drinking escapade with Andrew Strauss and Paul Collingwood being viewed as the main contenders.

    As for the Issue of religion Javed.A.Khan and I have already engaged in a very lengthy debate on the thread called 'Captain and Coach' 10 matters of choice.In which every aspect concerning the 'Islamisation' was discussed.

    I also fully endorse your comments that a Muslims greatness should not be judged by the length of his beard,and those who ,do so are extremely narrowminded. Likewise I think the Beard Phobes who condemn a Muslim due to him having a beard are also extremely narrow minded, these individuals who have an inferiority complex and try to prove themselves westernised are totally repugnant,We 2 sets of fanatics the religious and the secular 'Brown Sahibs' both should be treated equally with caution.

  • Muhammad Asif on May 15, 2007, 15:06 GMT

    Its only for those people on this blog who have started non-cricketing dicussions. I would rather apperciate if you would throw some light on your own life. What you have done for yourself, for your family & for your community.

  • Gulab Khan on May 15, 2007, 14:53 GMT

    Dawar, you are correct. Kamran should write about Inzamam's future. Why he wants to come back?

    Does he only want to break the record of his own country man player Javed Miandad?

    Is it the good example for our new players?

    Does Inzi current performance allow him to be in the test team?

    Inzi always plays for his records.

    Inzi scored only one century against Australia in Pakistan. He never scored century in Australia. Australia is one of the strongest team in his time. Against SA his record is not also impressive at all. Another strongest team of his time.

    On other hand his average against Bangladesh is 80. He has impressive records against Bangladesh & Zimabave.

    On other hand Miandad records against his strong components were always outstanding. He had few centuries (included Double centuries almost against every strong component of his time) against Australia (World Champion at his time), Sri Lanka, India (world champion at that time), West Indies (World Champion at his time period) etc. His lowest average was against Zimabave (the weakest team in his time period). Its proofs that Miandad always played for his team not for the records. I remember when Imran announced unnecessary declared, when Javed was playing at 280 runs not out. The way he was playing against world champion India its look he could break the highest total runs records. 280 without any chance.

    Imran declared, but Miandad did not complain (no boycott, player power etc) or stop playing positive game for the same Captain and for the Pakistan. After that, he won matches for Imran Khan & Pakistan more than any one. Remember Pakistan won only five matches in 92 world cups and each match Miandad scored over fifty runs. This is called team innings. Unfortunately he was treated badly by PCB, Imran and later on young players like wasim, Inzi etc. They had never respected him. This was the mistake of senior players who brought their jealousy. I was in London when Pakistan Cricket team tour to England after the 92 world cup. Miandad was a Captain and two W's were booming. Imran invite whole team for his personal dinner but Miandad was not included in his guest list.

    We as nations always forget our real heroes. Miadad was always our hero.

    Please kick Inzamam out from any cricket affair. Looks at his records in all world cups, except two innings in 92 world cup, he never crossed 40 runs. He had a worst world cup average than any good batsman of his level.

    Now we are bringing same attitude in the shape of A Razzak and other power player mafia.

    Gulab Khan Peshawar

  • khansahab on May 15, 2007, 9:49 GMT

    "Malik" either you're very naive or you're being sarcastic.

    Awas, dude thanks for defending me. I have always stated that this blog is for broad minded and reasonable people.

    Javed Bhai, thanks for sticking by me in these "times of adversity" :)

    Wasim Bhai, Shoaib and Asif wear Gucci etc what does that have to do with their intelligence? Miandad probably has made more money than Shoaib, some people are just simple by nature. I have been brought up in a well to do family but I'm not interested in fashion/fast cars/lavish lifestyle. I hardly wear any branded clothes or use branded fragrances. Does that make me a simpleton?

    If a Pakistani hangs around in Shalwar Kameez does that make him a simpleton? (Not that I wear Shalwar Kameez, but I'm talking about normal Pakistanis in Pakistan)

    Wasim Bhai, please keep your cool, if we criticise anything is doesn't mean we are directly criticising Punjab. I mean look at the people's mentality on this blog- now if I say anything against Imran Nazir or Abdul Razzaq, they will say I'm doing it because of anti Punjab bias?

  • sohan on June 19, 2007, 9:45 GMT

    I think afridi is the best choice for vice captiancy.He is a world class one-day bowler. I like his bowling very much.He is the bright future of Pakistan.

  • zeeshan on June 17, 2007, 7:55 GMT

    i think a bowler should not be given as a post of any captancy

  • tony afzal on June 14, 2007, 13:38 GMT

    Want to solve Pakistan's growing and menacing "NWFP" problem ? Make Shahid Afridi the Captain of the Pakistan team. Everyone up there will drop their AK-47s and pick up cricket bats instead. Guaranteed!

  • Raja Pakistani on May 15, 2007, 19:00 GMT

    Mahmmod Butt said above:

    "Kamran Akmal learned lot of things from his mentor Inzamam. I am sure, he will improve his keeping skills as he grows. Keep it up."

    what a hack? Is it our cricket team or child development program?

    We need skilled players in the team, this is not a testing team. Kick him this keeper out, he can not carry ball in his gloves.

    Raja Sailkot

    First of all writing of Butt is not good. He thinks PUNJAB is a Pakistan

  • karim on May 15, 2007, 18:40 GMT

    yahhh....best of luck pakistann..i hope that the team will support shoaib malik..BEST OF LUCK

  • Nadeem Shafee on May 15, 2007, 18:38 GMT

    After the worst defeat in the last world cup, I do not see any big change in the team. Only two new desreving players include in the team. Now we need to see how new captain will give them chance in playing eleven?

    Unfortunately after dropping more than 100 catches Kamran Akmal still the member of the team. Mr. Butt & Malik(above) wants to make him Vice Captain because of his background. Razzak still in the team. He always unfit against strong opponents, he also the leader of player power mafia. I do not see any big change in the attitude of PCB, only new some new names with same policies.

    Where are deserving players like Khalid Latif, Khurrum Manzoor, Sarfraz Ahmed, Anwar Ali, Aziz ul haq, Jameshead?

    Nadeem UK

  • Ashaq on May 15, 2007, 18:32 GMT

    Awas chill out Bro,my remarks concerning Asif were made in jest,it was a spin on the word 'Vice'.

    Your comment concerning Flintoff is incorrect. Dear old Freddy Flintoff was stripped of the Vice-Captaincy after his drinking escapade during the World Cup he was also given a heavy fine and was ostracised in the British press.

    Although he was originally being touted as the future captain of England and a succesor to Michael Vaughan,his name is no longer in contention,due to his drinking escapade with Andrew Strauss and Paul Collingwood being viewed as the main contenders.

    As for the Issue of religion Javed.A.Khan and I have already engaged in a very lengthy debate on the thread called 'Captain and Coach' 10 matters of choice.In which every aspect concerning the 'Islamisation' was discussed.

    I also fully endorse your comments that a Muslims greatness should not be judged by the length of his beard,and those who ,do so are extremely narrowminded. Likewise I think the Beard Phobes who condemn a Muslim due to him having a beard are also extremely narrow minded, these individuals who have an inferiority complex and try to prove themselves westernised are totally repugnant,We 2 sets of fanatics the religious and the secular 'Brown Sahibs' both should be treated equally with caution.

  • Muhammad Asif on May 15, 2007, 15:06 GMT

    Its only for those people on this blog who have started non-cricketing dicussions. I would rather apperciate if you would throw some light on your own life. What you have done for yourself, for your family & for your community.

  • Gulab Khan on May 15, 2007, 14:53 GMT

    Dawar, you are correct. Kamran should write about Inzamam's future. Why he wants to come back?

    Does he only want to break the record of his own country man player Javed Miandad?

    Is it the good example for our new players?

    Does Inzi current performance allow him to be in the test team?

    Inzi always plays for his records.

    Inzi scored only one century against Australia in Pakistan. He never scored century in Australia. Australia is one of the strongest team in his time. Against SA his record is not also impressive at all. Another strongest team of his time.

    On other hand his average against Bangladesh is 80. He has impressive records against Bangladesh & Zimabave.

    On other hand Miandad records against his strong components were always outstanding. He had few centuries (included Double centuries almost against every strong component of his time) against Australia (World Champion at his time), Sri Lanka, India (world champion at that time), West Indies (World Champion at his time period) etc. His lowest average was against Zimabave (the weakest team in his time period). Its proofs that Miandad always played for his team not for the records. I remember when Imran announced unnecessary declared, when Javed was playing at 280 runs not out. The way he was playing against world champion India its look he could break the highest total runs records. 280 without any chance.

    Imran declared, but Miandad did not complain (no boycott, player power etc) or stop playing positive game for the same Captain and for the Pakistan. After that, he won matches for Imran Khan & Pakistan more than any one. Remember Pakistan won only five matches in 92 world cups and each match Miandad scored over fifty runs. This is called team innings. Unfortunately he was treated badly by PCB, Imran and later on young players like wasim, Inzi etc. They had never respected him. This was the mistake of senior players who brought their jealousy. I was in London when Pakistan Cricket team tour to England after the 92 world cup. Miandad was a Captain and two W's were booming. Imran invite whole team for his personal dinner but Miandad was not included in his guest list.

    We as nations always forget our real heroes. Miadad was always our hero.

    Please kick Inzamam out from any cricket affair. Looks at his records in all world cups, except two innings in 92 world cup, he never crossed 40 runs. He had a worst world cup average than any good batsman of his level.

    Now we are bringing same attitude in the shape of A Razzak and other power player mafia.

    Gulab Khan Peshawar

  • khansahab on May 15, 2007, 9:49 GMT

    "Malik" either you're very naive or you're being sarcastic.

    Awas, dude thanks for defending me. I have always stated that this blog is for broad minded and reasonable people.

    Javed Bhai, thanks for sticking by me in these "times of adversity" :)

    Wasim Bhai, Shoaib and Asif wear Gucci etc what does that have to do with their intelligence? Miandad probably has made more money than Shoaib, some people are just simple by nature. I have been brought up in a well to do family but I'm not interested in fashion/fast cars/lavish lifestyle. I hardly wear any branded clothes or use branded fragrances. Does that make me a simpleton?

    If a Pakistani hangs around in Shalwar Kameez does that make him a simpleton? (Not that I wear Shalwar Kameez, but I'm talking about normal Pakistanis in Pakistan)

    Wasim Bhai, please keep your cool, if we criticise anything is doesn't mean we are directly criticising Punjab. I mean look at the people's mentality on this blog- now if I say anything against Imran Nazir or Abdul Razzaq, they will say I'm doing it because of anti Punjab bias?

  • Saqib on May 15, 2007, 8:51 GMT

    AOA

    I have never have read the most outrageous and biased comments passed by AWAS. KAMRAN ABBASI you have a responsibility to this blog that comments who are only related to cricket must be published in this blog nothing else. I have seen here people discussing religion who don’t know about their own religion saying some stupid remarks here. What ever awas has written it is absurd and his and all of others comments must be closely read before make it published on the BLOG.

    ALLAH HAFIZ

  • host_of_sorrow on May 15, 2007, 4:55 GMT

    To Dawar, I am really glad that you brought up thAT topic of why Inzamam hasn't retired as yet. Inzamam has proved beyond doubt that he is just a selfish cricketer and that he is jealous of Javed's achievements. Which reminded me of that inning by Mark Taylor where he scored 335 runs not out or so and he just declared that inning at that point so that he wouldn't surpass that record by Bradman.That shows his tremendous respect for Bradman. On the other hand Inzamam's lack of respect for a legend like Miandad is simply abominable and quite frankly reprehensible. Inzamam might overtake Miandad record as the highest run-getter for Pakistan but he will never be as good as Javed,thats for sure. Because Javed was a teams man,he has won more matches than any other Pakistani batsman, he wasn't selfish like inzamam who just plays for his stats and not for the country. No wonder inZamam's record is quite wretched against the two best teams in the world namely S.A and Australia. Inzamam is just so goddamn over-rated.honestly i have never liked his batting at all. Javed will remain the greatest batsman that pakistan has ever produced. Even yousuf is a far better batsman than inzamam.

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on May 15, 2007, 4:50 GMT

    Kamran Abbassi is done with this thread and thrown it in to the archives and, this happened before a new thread appearing on the blog, to my knowledge this is the first time it has happened. The blog looks like a "kora - kaaghaz." Well, there is always a first time, so I am not surprised. :-) I would like to respond to a few posts in this thread, not just for the record, but just for the heck of it.

    Wasim Saqib, brother please don't take my comments to heart 'coz neither Javed Miandad nor Imran Khan are my relatives or even friends, so go ahead bash them or do character analysis as much as you like and feel good. But, that's not gonna take away the pay&do expressions from the face Mohammad Asif even if he wears a Gucci underwear. Don't you think you have gone a bit too far in calling Asif a great player? Still a long way to go before the word great to be added before his name. This is how people get light headed and pretentious when praise is showered upon them so soon.

    About Moin Akhtar, when I mentioned his name it did not occur to me that you will come up with comparisons and dig out the pld grave of Munawar Zareef and also draw comparisons with the all time 6chora Omar Shareef it only proves the level of a person's taste, his calibre and his sense of appreciation for humour. Omar Shareef's sense of humour is restricted to stag parties and anyone who has some "haya" would be too embarrassed to listen to him or watch his shows with his family (like, mother, father sister, elders etc.) Whereas, Moin Akhtar like I said b4, is an industry within himself. And the all time greats like Dilip Kumar or Yousuf Bhai has acknowledged the worth of Moin Akhtar by saying what I have said. So, those are not my words but of Yousuf Bhai's.

    Awas, Thanks for your appreciation but, on your liberalism and broadmindedness on consuming alcohol like the French do, lemme tell you this, with malice towards none and respect for all, I don't drink and I don't smoke and neither I am a very religious person, you can call me a progressive Muslim who does not believe in extremism and fundamentalism yet, I know and practice my religion a lot more better than most ignorants who call themselves as 'deen kay thaykaydaar'. But, Awas please don't be so adamant and persuasive on the benefits of consuming alcohol in moderation. Because, if it was a lesser evil, then Allah wouldn't have forbidden it. When people talk about practicing religion in moderation they are condemned and criticized by the Mullahs aur peenay vala moderation ki baat keray tou theek hai? I am not impressed about how alcohol is served in France or in the French restaurants, parce ce que, moi, je suis un Quebecois et je sais la façon dont valeur française de personnes au sujet de spiritueux et de vins. I think following the French way of life would be "kuwwa chala hans ki chaal vali baat hai" and its another matter, if you wish to take a chuski just like Chacha Ghalib and say:

    Raat ko mai pee, subha ko taoba kee Rind kay rind rehay, haath say jannat bhee na gayee!

    Ps. Moin Akhtar once mentioned about the French people. He said: "The good thing about French people is, 'only' their submarine is hidden, the rest is all open."

  • ahsan787 on May 14, 2007, 17:32 GMT

    Khansaab,

    Who gave you the right to judge others? How do you know what I’m like?

    You can believe whatever you want. Beat your kids if you like. You call yourself a proud Pakistani, but you call Pakistan a stupid country. You need to calm down, and watch what you’re saying. Look at yourself before you start judging others.

  • host_of_sorrow on May 14, 2007, 7:24 GMT

    To Mr Rauf, I could only say that McGrath's simply marvelous record in both forms of the game speaks for itself. Wasim used to be my most favourite bowler so dont get me wrong on this,he was my idol but now Mcgrath has replaced him,because he is without a doubt the most consistent of the two,simple is that. Even if you check out their records then you will discover that McGrath has a slightly better record than Wasim in both forms of the game. Make no mistake that Wasim Akram ended his career on a low while McGrath has finished his career with such a glory. McGrath is also a far superior new bowler bowler than Wasim Akram. Although Wasim was better at the death simply because he was a master of reverse swing no doubt about that. However,In my opinion McGrath was a better exponent of conventional swing than Wasim. Also Mcgrath had such fantastic seam movement which is something Wasim has seriously lacked throughout his career. Wasim was never known for his seam movement. But the biggest testament of McGrath superiority over Wasim is his record itself in both forms of the game. Mcgrath average and everything is touch better in both form of the game. As for Asif, he is nowhere close to both these greats,he is not even in the same league,i just dont understand the hype about this guy. Who can forget the pounding he received from Mark boucher in S.A where he ended up conceding 28 runs in one over,lol. This was really pathetic. Asif's record in odis is miserable.

  • Dawar on May 13, 2007, 23:48 GMT

    Kamran,

    Sorry to write out of topic. Please write about following matter.

    why Inzi still wants to play test cricket?

    Does his only desire to break the record of great Javed Miandad? Please remeber, Javed played only for the country. He never played for his own records. He was declared on 280 not out runs. But he always won the match for the same Captain who declared him at 280 runs.

    We all know there is no cricket left behind in the Inzi.

    why he wants to come back?

    D LA, USA

  • Malik on May 13, 2007, 23:31 GMT

    For some time Kamran Akaml is not performing well behind the wickets. Regardless of that, I am sure he will be a part of team. But he could be a good vice captain. So we can keep him in a team as a Vice Captain. So we can utilize him for some thing. He is a young talent from the GREAT Lahore. Lahore players are always best. See Imran Khan, Wasim AKram, Mohd Yusuf,Salim Malik, soon Inzi moved to Lahore he become world class Captain, Majid Khan,Sohaib Malik (moved to Lahore), Salman But etc.

    we also need to keep always Salman Butt in the team, he is only the good looking player in the current team, by the way he is also from Lahore. He could be a future Captain or Vice Captain of P Cricket team. Keep it up , LAHORE you are our Pakistan.

    I also approved M. Butt comments above.

    Salim Malik Lahore, PUNJAB

  • Tayyab Siddiqui on May 13, 2007, 18:36 GMT

    i was looking at Pakistan's site on cricinfo today and there is no better sight, then to see wasim akram working with young pakistani bowlers. I wish wasim could take any permanent position in PCB, but this cannot happen due justice Qayuum report. Thank you wasim for all the pleasures you brought to pakistani nation during your playing days and i wish these young guys could carry your legacy.

  • Awas on May 13, 2007, 17:59 GMT

    After so much mindless criticism, I would like to say a few words in support of khansahab’s blogs. There is no doubt khansahab has been not only honest but very brave to say what he said. I have always found regulars such as khansahab and JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL’s comments well thought after, intelligent and entertaining. Khansahab not only had the courage to speak his mind but also the truth. When he said “stupid country like Pakistan”, I have no doubt he wanted to hammer home his point about the silly things that are going on in our country day and night, including in cricket, rather than humiliate the country. Why should people be offended by honesty? Only people with low self esteem and inferiority complex would get offended by rightful criticism. Our beloved country is not so great that such criticism would be uncalled for. If a person criticises something who is really great then that person would really look silly. Khansahab was definitely not. Great people and countries take criticism in their stride and don’t get offended. Look what is going on at the moment: a sacked chief justice causing so much havoc touring throughout the country that people are killing each other? Is it not stupidity going on in Pakistan? This is the problem of our country once in position of any power; no one wants to relinquish it. Look at Bibi Benazir after three attempts of running the country incompetently and corruptly she still wants to continue and would not let anyone else in her party to take the reins. Once she said in an interview, in reference to her exile: I have given so much for Pakistan and what has Pakistan done for me? The question is not what Pakistan should do for you it is what you do for Pakistan. If you truly love your country then whatever you do is never enough. Coming back to the point about “stupid country” in 60 years of its existence what greatness has it achieved other than losing three wars and half of the country? What did Zia-ul-Haq give us? Talibanisation and Jehadi culture. Was it not stupidity? You only have to look at other countries in the region to see what greatness they have achieved. “Stupidity” of the nation is such that even to this day people consider it necessary to say “Pakistan Zindabad” whether it’s a in a match or any other occasion. Isn’t that an inferiority complex that we have to wish Pakistan a “Long Life” at every opportunity as though chances of its survival are remote? Slogans like that may have made sense when Pakistan was created but to say it to this day is only because of our people’s low esteem. Every time we make a new missile or a bomb, our leaders running the government consider it necessary to say things like “we are now very strong”, “no one can look at us with any bad intentions” and so on. In reality a strong country has no need to say this at every step. So, one can only deduce that either the country is not really strong or we have some inferiority complex. We need to come up with new slogans, perhaps “prosper Pakistan” even “enlightened moderation” may be political but sounds better than “Pakistan Zindabad”.

    Inzamam was once great but what legacy has he has left? Tableeghi culture rather than cricket. Humiliation in the world cup is being blamed on Allah’s will. Players like Inzamam, Afridi and Yousaf when they come on TV can’t complete a sentence without mentioning Allah. Is Islam for show only? Every time Inzamam came on TV after the match all he could really say worth remembering was “Bismillah…...first of all thanks to Allah” This rhetoric of his has become a laughing stock in the world. In my previous thread I mentioned how when a western journalist congratulated Inzamam on the birth of his son. He responded by saying: “Thanks to Allah, it’s a team effort.” Although I am sure it’s a joke it has been alleged to be fact. As our cricketers are not so educated it is perhaps PCB’s job to teach them the cricket ethics. When it comes to cricket they should concentrate and talk cricket only.

    Someone mentioned earlier, can’t remember the name but may have been Ashaq (forgive me if I am wrong) that Asif is not worthy as he likes a bit of Whisky and a joint. If one can get solace out of such things rather than praying Tahjad all night then that’s his business. Flintoff drank like a skunk in the world cup, other than some criticism that I have noticed in this blog no one raised an eyebrow in the UK because that is his business. We shouldn’t judge greatness of a Muslim by the length of its beard alone. Supporters of beard proclaim Sunnah. If that is so then why not also dress, talk and behave like our prophet did. He definitely didn’t speak Urdu and wear Shalwar Kurta. Better still have as many wives as he did. Now that would be Sunnah!!! It’s only for God to judge who is better than the others. At present, it looks as though he likes captain of Australia Ponting the “punter” better than other cricketers.

    Referring to the comments made by JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, about evils of drinking. I understand his point of view but don’t totally agree. In countries like, definitely here in, UK and perhaps US as well there is a culture of binge drinking which brings its own social problems of not knowing who raped you or deaths because of drink driving. However, drink taken in moderation has no such evils. In European countries like France, Spain etc wine is consumed moderately with every meal. A business associate of mine went to a posh restaurant in Paris for a business meeting. During the sumptuous meal, they were served with 5 different classy wines to go with each course but each serving of wine was so small that it barely covered base of the glass. When they came out after lunch they were as fresh as they went in before lunch and they were all able to talk business soberly.

    So khansahab be courageous carry on the good work.

  • WASIM SAQIB on May 13, 2007, 14:56 GMT

    JAVED A. KHAN

    First of all I have not drawn any comparison of Asif with anybody else,I mentioned the names of other bowlers who have been successful captains or have lead their country, as some including you were suggesting that we might loose him as a bowler if he becomes a captain. Its funny that first it was about his ethnicity then it came down to his looks,and finally it was stated that he cannot handle fame and stress. All the above are trivial matters and a hopeless effort to criticise a great player or his appointment as a VC.

    Javed Miandad has been my all time favorite player he was a true fighter,but as far as his looks were concerned I dont see any difference between him Rashid Latif or Sami they all look simpleton or Paindoo as you say,as far as intelligence is concerned I think Asif has proved himself to be an intelligent bowler the whole world acknowledges his skills.I dont have to prove that as he has already proven himself. My Cheap movie actor comment was in general and not pointing to any body specifically,Moin Akhtar is already quite famous and is respected all over the country.Although some do sugeest that he is too montonous and does overacting,and he failed miseably in movies,unlike Munawar Zareef,and Omar sharif who were sucessfull on all plat forms.

    Irfan Pathan lost his pace and there are many examples in the world where sportsmen loose their form and if they dont regain it they loose their place it has nothing to do with fame or anything else its all about fitness. Shoaib is from Pindi,Asif is from Shekhupura, Miandad is from Karachi not much of a difference I agree with you on that.The only difference I see is Asif and shoaib are well dressed they very often wear Armani and Gucci whereas Miandad was more simpleton as far his clothing was concerned. I am Happy and enjoying life,wish you the same.

  • Sri Lanka on May 13, 2007, 13:48 GMT

    Guys have a look at this

    http://content-gulf.cricinfo.com/woolmer/content/current/story/294016.html

    It says the e-mail which came from woolmer’s laptop was faked by his killers and the sender was a person whose first language wasn't English.

    It clearly shows that the investigators are suspecting pcb. It also shows that they are having a very biased approach in going about looking for the murderers

    I hope kamran writes something on this

    PS: there are still speculations as to the death of woolmer could have been due to a heart attack

  • khansahab on May 13, 2007, 11:44 GMT

    Javed Bhai, I don’t think you read Wasim Bhai’s mind when he spoke about Miandad. Wasim Bhai obviously thought that you have picked on Asif because of the province Asif hails from and that is why he retorted by stating that Miandad has a “simpleton’s looks” as he believes you are a “Karachi wala”.

    I don’t see why we need to discuss players’ looks in the first place? Even movie stars need not be good looking as long as they have the talent and confidence. Sure Javed Miandad and Mohammad Asif are ordinary looking. So are Salim Malik, Mohammad Sami etc etc. Tauseef Ahmed wasn’t pretty either. What difference does a person’s looks make to his ability? I’d rather have a Miandad or Asif who can perform than have an Afridi who struggles with his consistency (Javed Bhai this is not about bashing Afridi because you like him). In any event I don’t think Miandad has been given his due credit by Pakistanis. First of all he wasn’t corrupt like Wasim/Mushtaq/Salim Malik in that he would never accept money to underperform. Secondly his average never dropped below 50, which is an amazing record. Of course people have different opinions about cricketers but if I would have a choice between Inzi or Miandad I would choose the latter because most of Inzi’s career has been like, he averages 37 one year and 60 the next year.

    This thread isn’t going anywhere. I hope we get a new one soon anyway. I think it’s a case of Mr Abbasi getting busier, it’s not that there isn’t anything to talk about. We can discuss what Malik needs to do to build the team, what Asif’s responsibility should be, whether the squad selected was the best one, what type of coach should Pakistan have, why are there so many controversies regarding Woolmer’s death, whether Mushtaq Ahmed killed Woolmer :), what is the future for Inzi, whether Twenty20 is good for international cricket, whether Imran Farhat was right to challenge the selectors’ decision and what implications this has for player discipline, what is going to happen with Shoaib Akhtar etc especially since he could not maintain his fitness after the WC. He is not a fit cricketer because he does not do enough. When you raise this issue with his he becomes aggressive and rowdy. This Abu Dhabi series was planned quickly and hence he did not have “enough notice” to start looking after his fitness. Of course this isn’t what he says, but Asif and other pacers have got themselves fit. Why has he not? (Especially since his knee has recovered now).

  • khansahab on May 13, 2007, 11:10 GMT

    It should be Atlantic and not Pacific in my earlier post :)

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on May 13, 2007, 10:32 GMT

    The BIG BULLY John Howard has once again bullied on behalf of 'Cricket Australia' by canceling the Australian team tour to Zimbabwe, for so many reasons it was obvious to happen. Although it is being cited as a government decision based on political grounds but, there is something more to this than meets the eye. After an over dose of cricket in the world cup and Australia proving their muscle as an unbeatable team in the WC they aren't interested in going to Zimbabwe. Honestly speaking their B Team would beat Zimbabwe anytime. So, there is no interest for the players and its quite natural. But a commitment, is a commitment and Cricket Australia were reluctant to call this tour off because, none of the players are interested. But, they knew that there are financial penalties that will be imposed upon them by the ICC. Hence the "BB" John Howard came forward to rescue them and said, "he had received legal advice that the government had the power to cancel the trip to Zimbabwe." As usual Malcolm Speed is diplomatic and non-committal and lets see how long and how far the ICC will go in dodging this issue by protecting its Big Brother. In my opinion the ICC must penalize Australia not only financially but also ban them for a series which they prefer like, the next Ashes series in the UK.

    Shoaib Malik's "comrade in misery" or the prince of injuries, Michael Vaughn is once again injured and will miss the first test. Lets see when Shoaib Malik joins him with a band aid on his little finger? The Prince of Tantrums Shoaib Akhtar has announced that he is not available for the Asia-Afro matches due to personal commitments LOL @ personal commitments. Despite his selection in the squad he is perhaps aware that he might not be in the playing XI, hence dilly dallying the issue by saying he would prefer to play the twenty20 rather than a 50 over ODI, and its so funny that he is saying: "I am fit but I want to be super fit and make a permanent return to international cricket." Super fit at his age? He is a Joka!

    And there is a break-away league that is gathering momentum in India and retirees like, Lara, Warne and McGrath are coming back into action and that too for a twenty20 game! How is that going to attract fans after the twenty20 WC in September? As expected India has won the Bangladesh ODI series. There is so much is happening in the cricket world at the international front and we are still stuck here discussing a pay&do decision taken by a pay&do board on appointing a pay&do vice captain and beating the hell outta khansahab for using a forbidden word called 'pay&do.' Let's move ahead and ask Mr. Kamran Abbassi to create a new interesting, controversial, juicy thread that will create more responses on the subject. So, this is an open request for Mr. Kamran Abbassi.

  • Suhaib on May 13, 2007, 10:27 GMT

    First thing that we need to consider is that salman butt, currently is not even in the side so how can he be appointed to be a vice-captain. Secondly, it is quiet early for Mohammed Asif to be given such a big role. The guy has hardly played any International games. As a back up (vice-captain) i personally think that a senior player such as Mohammed Yousuf should be granted it as he has far more experience than anyone in the side at the moment. Atleast if shoiab malik wants to get an advice, he can look upon someone more experienced than himself. I also think that if pakistani team is preaching each other with religion, there is no harm because one, we are muslim, two, one does get disciplined. I still remember Bob Woolmer's comment that he made in favour of Mohammed Yousuf, he said that Mohammed Yousuf has become far more disciplined in his behaviour and his attitude. He has become more calm now. It's shameful how us pakistani muslim think nowadays. Even Kafirs acknowlege our religion yet we MUSLIM'S unfortunate say comments like "cricket has not got anything with religion, don't bring religion in to it." About Mohammed Yousuf knowlege, well how can anyone judge someone's knowledge? I think that this comment made by Rashid is completely childish. Never judge anyone but yet look at your own deeds. Pointing at someone is extremely easy but to practise yourself is completely a different story. About non-muslim players coming in the team, they should come. At the time of cricket, they should all concentrate on cricket and after the match if anyone wants to do mehfil etc, no one has the right to stop them.

  • Marty on May 13, 2007, 8:27 GMT

    Sajjad: Warne was never captain or vice-captain of Australia, except perhaps when filling in for an injured/absent colleague. AUSTRALIA made the decision to not give the captaincy to Warne for several reasons, one of them being his controversial behaviour, unlike the PCB.

    Furthermore, Warne tested positive to a banned diuretic, not a performance enhancer, and was ACTUALLY banned from playing for a year, unlike the cheaters Akhtar and Asif. The PCB stumble from one failure to the next, how can Pakistanis tolerate this?

    Warne's samples were found to have levels of masking agents so low they could not have been used in conjuction with steriods, and even so Cricket Australia gave him a one-year ban. Where is the PCB response to that?

  • pukden payyanagin on May 13, 2007, 7:22 GMT

    i think this is very wise decision has pronounced by pcb despite all the critics against all odds,asif ia natural born leader will lead pakistan for victory one day but i realy have no comment why they choose malik as the caption.malik do not have any kind of expeirience of being the skipper even at his high school levels.in this case how can we trust the fellow who no expeirience at all and being the team skipper.i think they should re instate razzak as the caption and keep asif as the vice guy.

  • Rashid on May 13, 2007, 0:52 GMT

    I think Yusuf as captain and Gul as vice captain or bring Salman into the team. Pakistan means holly place thanks God that only subcontinent people know this otherwise our hypocrisy would be known to entire world. Without McGrath Australia would have not win world cup. If a bowler can play at 36 why not a batsman. But we are determined to end Yusuf's carrier. Show me on incident where he acted weird or commented in a way that would be unaccepted even on a western country. Yes, we can make a person who cannot take correct decision for himself a vice captain. Yes, Yusuf should be warned that he cannot bring religious preaching in cricket he doesn’t have knowledge and it is not a Proper place either. But as a senior player he should be given the prospect.

  • Rahat Minhas on May 12, 2007, 21:32 GMT

    Muhammad Asif is a better choice then Shahid Afridi.Shahid Afridi has proven his unpredictability and tempremental attitude on so may occasions. Secondly like Inzimmam if you saw his interview on ARY with Mani he had such a careless attitude towards victory and defeat. Saying that its up to God if we win or lose. Therefore taking this into consideration he would never take complete responsiblity for any bad performance like our great Inzi.I would also assume that if he becomes captain or Vice captain everybody would be forced to wear a beard as was quite apparent from this interview, as he looked even more fanatical and extremist than even Inzimmam. Please we dont want eleven Religous leaders only to be members of the team and then losing and blaming Allah for their performances!!!

  • SYED A.SHOAIB, KARACHI, PAKISTAN on May 12, 2007, 20:30 GMT

    All hail pcb.. for the first time.. a decision to be proud of! perfect choice! *yeah!*

  • Mahmmod Butt on May 12, 2007, 19:18 GMT

    Rana Naveed ul Hasan should be appoint as a Vice Captain. Unfortunately our short sighted selection committe did not select him.

    Second best choice is Kamran Akmal. Kamran Akmal learned lot of things from his mentor Inzamam. I am sure, he will improve his keeping skills as he grows. Keep it up. Kamran will be in the team for next 15 to 20 years. So why not we appoint KA as a Vice Captain and later on he will replace Shoaib Malik. New chairman of selection committie also thinks he is the best available keeper in the world.

    M Butt LA, USA

  • Junaid on May 12, 2007, 18:39 GMT

    maybe this is a blessing in disguise. After all the controversy in Pakistan at the moment it will be a good example to show that we can overcome any obstacles.

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on May 12, 2007, 15:46 GMT

    Wasim Saqib; since Kamran Abbassi started the drill by calling Asif is the McGrath of Sheikhupura, and you are also in to drawing comparisons between him and others or at least citing examples of others to defend your point and, I have said this before and like to reiterate that no two people are same, hence going in to this comparison business is not right.

    Players like Imran Khan and Javed Miandad are very rare and exceptional. Imran not only because of his natural or gifted abilities but, also because of his family background, education and the environment in which he grew up and studied that made a lot difference in his personality and his abilities to lead as a captain. He has that educated look on his face and also possess the class and the finesse, yet he is unable to make an impact in the field of politics. And, Miandad despite being uneducated does not have a simpleton look on his face (you've said, he has simpleton looks) to which I disagree, he looks very shrewd and does not look like a paindoo at all. It's only when he speaks he exposes his weakness and that's not due to lack of education, its more 'coz of his lisping that he is so incoherent because of that or you can call him a "totla" and yes, he rambles.

    The kinda shrewdness and street fighting abilities that Miandad has demonstrated in the game of cricket, no one has done that so far. And Imran Khan himself, acknowledges and rate him as the best player he has seen who has such a good cricketing brain. And thats why I said b4 that if he was an educated person and without his "totla pun" handicap, he would have been more successful and people would have respected him even more. In any case respect is easy to earn and easy to loose but, very hard to maintain that level of respect for a sustainable period of time. People tend to forget the good things they have done and the moment the same person does one wrong everyone blasts on him. Especially in Pakistan, I don't reckon a single person, be it in sports or politics or in any other field where a hero has not been criticized, ridiculed and humiliated.

    And Saqib, a movie actor is not a cheap person, its the cheap roles in the cheap movies that makes him look cheap. But, an artiste is an artiste there are some who are mediocre, there are those who are good and some are excellent. If you ask my opinion about Moin Akhtar the comedian, I would say he is not a comedian, he is not an actor or an artiste but, he is an industry by himself. He possess such rare and such great talent which is hard to find and whenever he takes up a role, you don't recognize him as Moin Akhtar, but you think its the person, that character who is playing that role that is him and its not an actor who is playing the role. He is so genuine and so original, he is a creative genius and people in Pakistan have not yet given him his due, once he is gone they will mourn him as a hero and will make him a legend then. Anyways, the point about fame getting into people's head and your remark about 'cheap movie actor' forced me to build up this "tamheed" or preface whatever but, to answer you point with another example, because you call Shoaib as a different character, although one is from Pindi and the other is from Sheikhupura, not much difference but, definitely Shoaib looks more educated than Asif and is also very aggressive (the aggression in his personality suits him as a fast bowlers to intimidate the opposition) so I'll give you another example and that is of Irfan Pathan and Munaaf Patel. Both of them shot to stardom very early in their career and both of them have the same kinda problem. Even Dhoni had this problem, it was like he has hit a jackpot and was more into modeling than in cricket. But he has been criticized a lot and pulled down a bit after the failures in the WC. And yes, "you don't worry be happy."

  • Shoaib The Pindi Express!!!!!!!!!!! on May 12, 2007, 15:05 GMT

    Thou this move doesnt seem like a brilliant spark of thinking... we can only say time will tell if such a move will prove fruitful or not? However Asif I believe does have a cricketing brain, as often he would dedictate the field positions.

    Regarding the issue of chairmen. If President Mushraff is so adamant of having a Dr whom has no idea of cricket... Then Kamran Abbassi please send in your CV and become the next chairmen, we need a proper Dr and a brain of cricket to run the demoralised Pakistan cricket board, before Ashraf dismantles what is already ruined!

    Please vote for Kamran Abbassi

  • Sajjad on May 12, 2007, 14:55 GMT

    Shane Warne knowningly uses drugs and he captains Australia,,,,,, nothing wrong with it Asif unknowingly uses drugs and proves not guilty, when he is made Vice captain,,,,, its immoral and cheating....

    Sean shame on you!

  • WASIM SAQIB on May 12, 2007, 13:39 GMT

    EIMIRAN- I am not confusing morality with legal issues, I just want to see the sports free of drugs, yes if you are sure that your opponents are using the drugs too then it is somewhat not immoral but in real world you cannot attain that surety. Drugs are far more injurious to one health than smoking or liquor,although some say that the ill effects of drugs are blown up by the governments, but the medical community is also very critical of it.But I do agree with you that if steroids cannot be controlled then within limits and under medical supervision made legal to athletes,but for only those who are coming out of injury.

  • Rauf on May 12, 2007, 12:46 GMT

    Host_of_sorrow@hotmail.co

    First of all, sports players are just that, players. Don't make them gods.

    Secondly, learn something about cricket before driveling on your keyboard. McGrath was (now that he is retired) an excellent bowler. A match winner.. yes. No doubt about it but to say he is "light years ahead" is a bit too much.

    Comparing him to Asif is rediculous because Asif has only played in 9 test matches. When a comparison is made it is generally made that Asif bowls the same line/length as McGrath with about the same speed and run up. If Asif ends up taking one more wicket then McGrath in 124 test matches then will you come back and say Asif is better then McGrath? He is on target as he currently stands at 49 wickets in 9 test matches. Check the stats then do your math.

    As far as comparison between Wasim Akram and McGrath goes... again your argument falls flat. Wasim's batting skills and McGrath's lack of it basically cancels out any small advantage that McGrath has over Wasim in bowling. Both of them were different kind of bowlers. One very good with line and length, the other very good with swing and seam.

    Gungo ho statements have no place in reality. They are just made to bolster your false ego.

  • Khan on May 12, 2007, 10:46 GMT

    we must all know that Asif is a very good bowler,but it is too early for him to be a vice captain. PBC is trying to throw him out of the Pakistan cricket team very early, instead give him more time to groom and cement his place in Pakistan Cricket Team, PBC gave him more responsibilities, I am sure Asif could not cope with both responsibilities because he is raw and dont have enough experience to handle his own job properly. PBC is again trying doing experiment with players and the results would be zero. Well, lets pray for pakistan and its Cricket team to have educated and talented people. God Bless Pakistan

  • khansahab on May 12, 2007, 9:09 GMT

    Waqar from USA

    I said I would not respond to any more criticism. I can see very clearly that you don't get the reason in your thick head. Hence the saying "behes (buffalo) key aagay been bajana".

    When I mentioned "Pay&Do" in that particular post it was not a substitute for "Punjabi". I admit I have used that word to describe Punjabis at times, but on some occasions I have just used it in the "dumb villager" context. I am not a natural born Punjabi hater; I do have my limits. Of course someone thick as you cannot discern when a particular term is being used for what context. There was nothing mentioned about Punjab in my earlier post and when you and ahsan787 responded, nothing was mentioned about Punjab either. So why bring up this Punjabi issue again? Or maybe you are really Punjabi Pay&Do and feel so obsessed with your pind :)

    In your earlier post you did criticise me for bashing "your players." So when I did provide my justification you changed your statement saying you do not care for the players I mentioned. Most of the players in your beloved squad have issues. That is why despite the rare talent they possess, they have not been able to transform into world class cricketers. Now you can call it cursing or criticism but I will point out the flaws where I see them, whether that is with your head, your beloved mother homeland (LOL at you living in USA, if you love your village so much why don't you return) Or maybe you just can't afford the plane or ferry ticket. Perhaps you can swim across the Pacific and come to UK where we treat our "needy and brainless" individuals better :)

  • sym on May 12, 2007, 5:49 GMT

    Reply to Khan sahab,

    I feel i know now y ur country cannot progress, u say mohd yousuf has evrythng right regarding cricket except his moulviness & that is y he cannot b given captaincy. Ur comment cannot get more sick than this, u have to know that the game is above personalities & what matters is how he plays the game & not what his face looks like, if people like u r in the selection panel i think we will have film heroes instead of cricketers in the playing 11. I think its time u got ur brain examined.

  • Mudassir Mughal on May 12, 2007, 5:30 GMT

    I think its a very good decision.

  • Majid on May 12, 2007, 3:24 GMT

    Unless there is the rule of law, Pakistan cricket will stay the same. Drug users should be prosecuted and punished not rewarded. Shame on Nasim Ashraf, another one who should not be where he is.

  • EAMIRAN on May 12, 2007, 2:13 GMT

    WASIM SAQIB You wrote:"I still think Doping is Immoral despite the hypocrisy and the technology gap, as I believe two wrongs do not make a right."

    I believe you confuse morality with legality. Let us take a hypothetical situation: Two combatants are fighting hand-to-hand in a ring. The rules of the fight do not allow weapons of any sort. Combatant 2 however is armed with a sharp concealed object and keeps drawing blood from combatant 1. The audience, referee and the judges do not see this; however combatant 1 knows what is happening, and after being repeatedly bloodied decides to take matters in hand. Frustrated, combatant 1 takes a metallic object in his fist and knocks out combatant 2. The referee spots the object and immediately disqualifies the combatant.

    Was it an illegal act? Yes, as it clearly contravened the rules of the game. But was it immoral? Should combatant 1 have continued to take the punishment and gone down in true noble fashion? I think not. Instead combatant 1 fought back on level, albeit illegal, terms. While the question of nobility does not arise in thios case and nor should it, certainly the morality of the act, given the situation, should not be in question.

    Although 2 wrongs do not make a right, sometimes 2 wrongs can make at least one morally right.

    Finally, I still maintain that steroids, within limits and under medical supervision, be made legal to athletes. That way there is no question of one gaining an unfair advantage over another.

  • Kashif on May 12, 2007, 2:08 GMT

    Asif is involved in the drug usage, shane warne also the same something like but you can see how the australian cricket board handled that they never appointed shane warne as vice captain, and pakistan board run by corrupt management....Asif appointed as vice captain,

  • Sameer A Malik, Michigan, USA on May 12, 2007, 2:01 GMT

    @Kamran Abbasi: Now it seems funny and shameful to me, i mean its the same Mohammed Asif (& Shoaib Akhtar) whom OUR BELOVED PCB was hiding from cricketing world so that the world doesn't find any remaining traces of drugs in them, and now the same management of the PCB has made Mohammad Asif as Ambassador of Pakistan Cricket by making him VC. I mean its ridiculous that in every field we are showing that "corrupt people are successful and on TOP!"

    @Current PCB Management: Please leave Pakistan Cricket alone and try your hands out in politics and please let cricket be CRICKET not your private property.

    I am afraid people will soon stop following cricket and the passion will fade away.

    I just hope PCB is not finding a bureaucrat or a politician coach now.

    @Everyone on this blog: Keep up the good work.

  • WASIM SAQIB on May 12, 2007, 0:53 GMT

    Javed A Khan: Asif is not a cheap movie actor that fame will get into his head,so far he has not demonstrated any such behaviour,Shoaib is an entirely different character.Asif's performance in Australia was along time ago and that was his first appearance in the International arena,he improved himself a lot that shows his character,he did make a mistake by indulging himself into drugs hopefully he will learn his lesson,but as regards his so called paindoo look its no different then the look on Javed Miandads face.Javed's simpleton looks never affected his performance so we don't have to worry.

  • WAQAR-USA on May 12, 2007, 0:05 GMT

    For khansahb:

    We are all familiar with your so called passion for the country,a country is like a mother,but you probably can spank your parents too in the name of discipline,I'm not from Punjab and I don't care for the players you mentioned,but I do care for my country,you have some deep rooted complex why are you so concerned about impressing others thru pseudo mannerism,I could care less what other countries think about us all of them have their own interests,if you cant respect yourself nobody will respect you.Learn from the Chinese and Japs. This name calling,and hurting the feelings of your own countrymen this is the kind of manners you were taught,this Bhaiyaism will never earn you any respect,you think you are liberal and educated but you are too rough around the edges and have a attitude of a caveman,learn to respect others and they will respect u in return.Hope u know the difference between criticism and cursing thats where your freedom of speech ends.

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on May 11, 2007, 23:49 GMT

    zoya hadid or steel life, mohammad asif is not a bollywood star i.e., just in case you don't know this is a cricket blog. :-)

  • Host_of_sorrow@hotmail.co on May 11, 2007, 23:39 GMT

    The mose preposterous and ridiculous comment i have heard about m.Asif is that he is the pakistani McGrath,lol. I have to say that this is one of the most foolish remark i have ever heard.because boweler's of McGrath class and caliber just dont come around too frequently.Mcgrath is in some department is even far better than Wasim Akram let alone M.Asif. Mark my words that Mohd.Asif will never even be a pimple on Mcgrath's arse. McGrath is simply phenomenal and he light years ahead of Mohd.Asif We Paskitan's tend to be way too patriotic and chauvinist,which is a pity. Let's face it that McGrath is once in a lifetime bowler.

  • zoya hadid on May 11, 2007, 21:02 GMT

    mohammad asif ? who is he ?

  • WASIM SAQIB on May 11, 2007, 17:05 GMT

    Eimran- I understand that most of the players almost in every sport are involved in Doping, some get caught and some don’t, but such players are innocent until proven otherwise, this is reality, but there is a legal side of the issue which I wanted to highlight in my previous post, the rules are laid out explicitly which clearly state that if by accident or otherwise if a player has done something wrong and get caught he cannot escape from penalty. Now there is a catch to this story WADA controls the anti doping regime internationally and all the sports boards and federations who have ratified WADA code, they fall in its jurisdiction, however if the members of these boards choose to ratify WADA code only then they fall under its jurisdiction, otherwise the rules of their governing body prevail. Unfortunately out of 10 regular ICC members only five have ratified WADA code and Pakistan is the only Asian country which has done that, its just like NPT countries who ratified it cannot go nuclear and those who have not yet ratified they can do any thing.

    Similarly western countries who possess the technology of manufacturing these undetectable performance enhancing drugs are reaping the benefits and yet through WADA rules they are controlling the use of these drugs world wide, its a complete hypocrisy, especially when we all know that WADA’s capability to detect these drugs universally is way behind the curve , researchers suggest that WADA will never be able to detect all the drugs as smart chemists will continue to modify the chemicals in these drugs and change their properties and render them undetectable, so only sportsmen from these advanced countries will continue to benefit from these drugs while others who will use common and cheap drugs will be detected and penalized. In order to make the rules more strict and the drugs more detectable WADA and other agencies will have to test everybody more frequently and every athlete should get tested once in a year.

    The fitness of Australians is beyond comprehension they look superhuman, the way symonds and Oram recovered before WC that was not less than a miracle, recently IAN Thrope the famous Australian swimmer was found guilty of using some of these illicit products, but the Australians handled the matter intelligently and the matter could not even proceed to his B test. WADA is way behind the detection curve, they them self admit that it’s a cat and mouse game, every now and then they discover new substances and add them to their screening process, but they are at least 20 years behind the PHarma companies.

    Pakistan is sending mixed signals to the world as far as their Anti doping policies are concerned on one hand they ratify WADA code and choose to test their own players and make the results public( although there are reports that the tests of Shoaib and Asif were conducted at the behest of Bob Woolmer),and on the other hand they are resisting the penalty enforcement, its virtually not possible for them to get out of this mess without getting penalized as WADA is going to take the matter to Arbitration court pretty soon, that is why I was advocating that PCB should have handed these players one year Ban so that in a few months from now they would have been completely free. Asif is a great asset for our country he is treat to watch but I think PCB has put him in more trouble, as if the arbitration court rules against these guys they both will get two year bans. Which will virtually end their careers.

    I still think Doping is Immoral despite the hypocrisy and the technology gap, as I believe two wrongs do not make a right.

  • Tandel on May 11, 2007, 14:57 GMT

    Now he is a VC so will guide every pakistani player, how to get performance boost by taking drug. Many pakistani young cricketers will get encouragement by taking drugs. This is great move for pakistani cricket. He may become Captain and whole pakistani team will start taking drug. Enjoy...

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on May 11, 2007, 13:52 GMT

    Sameer Ali, to say what you have said in your post on May 9, 2007 3:28 PM, is NOT like, 'people living in glass houses should not throw stones on others,' BUT, it is more like, 'people living in glass houses should not change while the lights are on.' Sameer you should think twice like a diplomat before you give us a big sermon like a tableeghi mullah with a big mouth that, people are wasting their precious time on this blog and must do something more valuable. What are you doing here buddy? Reading the holy books on this blog? I have said this b4 to those who criticize others that they are wasting their time here, actually they are the ones like you who are wasting time by reading our comments. There is something called a mouse, and do you know how to click it? Instead of taking the trouble of writing us a sermon you should click and move on with your precious "loife" to save your precious time and continue to do the so-called valuable work - which I guess is nothing but tableegh and that too without knowing the real meaning of it.

    EAMIRAN your point about doping and anabolic steroids in sports, also about smoking tobacco is well taken, we all have discussed the subject of doping in detail in the previous threads. In one of the threads, I have also mentioned about smoking tobacco and not only about smoking but, also about the ill effects and the dangers of Alcohol on our society. In case of steroids the individual's health and sometime his/her life is at risk, whereas, those who smoke tobacco, they pollute their health and also the environment with second hand smoke, which is another step more compared to taking steroids. But, those who consume alcohol and drive, they not only put their lives in danger but, they actually kill others when they drive under the influence of alcohol. In my opinion alcohol is the worst evil in any society and still no one bats an eye lid or speak against this menace which kills so many people. In fact, people take pride in drinking the most expensive wines and those who don't drink are looked down upon as people who do not know what the good things in life are? I respond them with this expression: "If the purblind nocturnal mouse sees not the sunlight, its not the later to blame." There are millions of other things in this world and 'to which of the bounties of your Lord shall you deny?' Why stick to the one which is evil and forbidden?

    In the USA alone, every year about 2700 lives are lost only because of kids under the age of 19 drive when they are drunk. The statistics is much higher if age is not the criteria and more lives are lost due to killings and murders under the influence of alcohol, apart from drunk driving. The dilemma in the US is that, people think only alcoholics drink at home so they must go out and drink just for fun - generally the fun ends up in killing someone. A player like Andrew Flintoff got drunk like a skunk and was almost sunk in the Caribbean last month and ruined his career because of drinking. Yet, no one acknowledge this evil. WADA's sponsors are governments of various countries and they get more money than a volunteer organization like, "Alcohol Anonymous" and WADA gets more publicity than any other organization which opposes alcohol.

    Coming back to the point of Mohammad Asif's appointment as VC while he is still charged, accused and not yet cleared is a moral issue which the PCB has ignored it completely. Apart from that the real issue is, that guy does not deserve so much recognition so soon, its like giving him too many carrots without any stick. Already Mr. Kamran Abbassi has labeled him as the McGrath of Sheikhupura. And bro Wasim Saqib, you've asked in your previous post about how his vice captaincy will affect his bowling? Its the fame my dear, its the fame, the publicity and the media showering praise after praise and decorating with accolades and comparisons with great players its that thing which gets into their heads and spoils them and thats how it affects their performance.

    Remember Shoaib Akhtar, when he clean bowled Tendulkar and Dravid in successive deliveries, he got immense publicity and he started claiming that he is better than Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis. Asif, has been more paindoo in his expression OR, a mere simpleton I must say. His performance in Australia was just a mediocre one, and he shot to fame after that Sri Lanka test match and then at the home series against India and England he did well, as a bowler he is very good. Then this Nandrolone issue gave him a few jolts and that was the reason he was not sent to the Caribbean for the WC and not because he was injured, thats a BS story. Whatever the outcome of this WADA case may be, the PCB bureaucratic, idiopathic morons took this decision which is another feather in their hat - the Mad Hatters hat!

  • Azfar Alam on May 11, 2007, 11:21 GMT

    I agree with you Kamran that appointing Asif as the VC is not the correct decision...the timing is wrong. I have no idea what his credentials are as a leader.I am talking purely from the perspective of the doping scandal.First he has to come clean from the doping scandal. By appointing him as the VC the PCB is provoking the ICC & the WADA and this appointment can actually be detrimental to Asif's career. This looks like another of Nasim Ashraf's bloopers. In fact the PCB should have appointed a experienced player as the Vice Captain who could help Malik at least in his first few series.Malik & Asif team look like a total rookie team and it remains to be seen how they handle a number of players who are senior to them in the team. PCB is shooting in the dark hoping that maybe something will click which looks remote to me.

  • Javed Arshad on May 11, 2007, 10:40 GMT

    "Life my friends, is only a perception of reality"

    Whatevr you perceive is your very own reality. But the problem with stars is they dont live their reality..they live ours..and hence can never be good enuff (I know imran bhai said it on tv buts its pretty damn hard to win the hearts of 160 million ppl ;))

    Anyway, I think anyone hu opposes shoaib malik as captain has not seen a single match in the past 2 years or so..same goes for thoes supporting razzak as captain (i mean come on atleast dont insult your own intelligence by calling razzak intelligent n stuff)

    Afridi i some what agree should have been v-captain (cuz im a fan for some hoplessly unexplainable reason) instead of asif, but does he on merit deserve a regular place in the side?

    Kamran Akmal, needs competition! stop giving him the assurance of a permenant slot in the side!

    Hafeez, not an opener..farhat, not a batsman..nazir, a talent in probability long lost

    Fawad Alam n Najaf Shah, shud be given longer runs have proven themselves in domestic (which shud be the ideal critera for selection)

  • khansahab on May 11, 2007, 9:13 GMT

    Remember I wrote that I have become a victim of “mob sentiments” that work to overthrow potentially revolutionary ideas and movements? This is what I meant.

    Firstly, the gentleman who advised me and Javed Bhai to spend our time doing other things rather than posting elaborately on this blog, thank you for your concern. I don’t know whether you make your remark in genuine sympathy or genuine cynicism, but I have been following Pakistan cricket for a long time and I have become obsessed with it. I have studied Pakistani society and Pakistani cricket extensively and hence I want to share my views with fellow bloggers. If you don’t try you won’t succeed.

    Ahsan 787, few people would have the passion I have for Pakistan. Think of it this way; we love our kids enormously and we can spank them or use derogatory words for them if we believe it will condition them to be better individuals. I can use this analogy for criticising the way our country has been managed and run. This is not about having a dig at the politicians only, but every member of the general public. At least I have the will to raise these issues somewhere; what good are you lot doing sweeping the truth beneath the carpet? You guys are an example of the mindless jingoism that has played its part in ruining our society. Dude I’ve met many of your kind, the ones who love to shout “Inshallah” and “Pakistan Zindabad”. Sadly this is only what you people ever do. In order to help the nation and play our part in its prosperity, we must first mention the faults with it. Unfortunately it’s this insipid “mob mentality/mindless jingoism” that people like you have that has circumvented that move towards prosperity.

    Waqar from USA, you remind of Euceph Ahmed and Ashaq when they thought Javed Bhai and me were the same person. No dear I’m not a Hindustani, and shame on you to believe that only a Hindustani can criticise Pakistanis. LOL, you live in USA and I think you have little idea about what your countrymen think of your beloved mother homeland. If you were not Pay&Do and had some idea of what the majority of Muslim countries also think about Pakistan, you would be very disappointed. Why don’t you go and live in Pakistan if you are so bothered? Dude, all I can say is that you are probably related to Abdul Razzaq or Salim Malik or something. You want me to praise your players? For what? For taking drugs, bashing members of the public, match-fixing, spreading Tableegh whilst getting money to play cricket? Yousuf Khan, I accept your criticism because you have done it the non-paindu way. Please accept my apologies if my comments hurt you. Same goes for Javed Bhai.

    I will not be responding to any more criticism because this thread is not about what comments I wrote and I am sick of Pay&Dos not being able to see the reason I promulgate and making daft comments in response. If anything I think they are the ones who want to get noticed. I thought of apologising to everyone until I read the brainless/Pay&Do comments of Waqar-USA and ahsan787.

  • srivathsan on May 11, 2007, 8:39 GMT

    I agree with khansahb that Indian bowling lack penetration.This is exactly the reason for them to go with extra batsman to try to win thro' the batting route,which more often than not backfires.It is a welcome change that sachin & ganguly are dropped.Had they been there india would have lost yestrdays match COMFORTABLY.It is high time that both india & pakistan try talented young legs instead of proven failures(seniors). Khan sahab ,one thing iam surprised is your criticism of abdul razak. I have felt that he is a crisis man & helped pak to win in crunch situation.May be now he is out of form. As regards mohd.asif ,the decision is not well founded. The board should have waited for the wada appeal disposal.His merits/demerits comes later.

  • Liston on May 11, 2007, 8:27 GMT

    Being an Indian supporter, i have always followed this blog, and have been a keen follower of Pakistani team. Mr. Abbasi. first of all thanks for entertaining and keeping the rest of the cricket fans around the globe with the developments of Pakistan cricket. I can relate to the turmoil that Pak fans are going through as we Indians feel the same to some extent.

    Now getting to this particular topic.

    My observation is the PCB has got it wrong on few occasion.

    Regarding the captaincy and the appointment of Vice captain.

    A country of Pakistan’s status in the cricketing world and the amount of proven cricketers available to it, They should have taken their time and chosen the right person for this huge tasks.

    In my opinion, a captain should be a person who represents the team and the country and someone hoe regards fair play and practises good sportsmanship all the way through regardless the outcome of the result. A skipper should lead from front, set good examples on field and should also have good knowledge of the game and be able to answer the media comfortably.

    To be honest I haven’t seen or heard much of Sohaib Malik he does come over as a well mannered and disciplined guy. He can be a good captain if groomed and guided properly, I am not very sure if Asif has what it takes to be his deputy, don’t get me wrong he’s a fantastic bowler but given the recent issues regarding the doping affair, this doesn’t seems to be a very wise decision. Yes youth is the future but both these guys are relatively young and yet just finding their feats in international cricket.

    My only question is why was M. Youssuf and Y. Khan overlooked they are proven cricketers with good knowledge of the game and they would have a great support to Sohaib.

    Well lets see how this how this recent changes done by the PCB has it’s effects on the matches. Concluding I would like to wish the Pakistani cricket team all the best and hope you guys get things right and in future we fans can enjoy a good competitive matches between our countries.

  • khalid durrani on May 11, 2007, 4:27 GMT

    Kamran ! can you please change your picture ?

  • Abdur Razzak on May 11, 2007, 3:31 GMT

    typical pak style of appointing captains & v/captains.it's too early to comment, may be the choice is wrong, could have been Abdur Razzak bcoz Shoaib Malik & AR are a good combination.any way good luck !!

  • Jauhar on May 10, 2007, 18:54 GMT

    Hi Buddies,

    Believe me; PCB has the same motto as of current Govt of Pakistan. No destination, no planning no vision. It's useless to spend energy on discussion because it's no way a long term move. Time will see lot of ups & downs. Its PCBs history, today’s captain in near future, will look for his spot as a simple player in the side & any person thrown out today will directly come back as captain.

    People think, there is some good reason to make young captain or now positive reason for Asif's vice captaincy move. No way! Friends it's just getting their own targets. Like many other areas, even PCB working without any constitution like country has been high jacked by one special group of people.

    Don't except anything long term & towards goodness. These are just ways to play around. History of PCB reveals that there had been 4-5 groups of people occupying the scene & rewarding there own people.

    All those players having some alive terms with religion would see their fate. All these moves are under instruction from president of Pakistan who itself has external agenda.

    Mind it; there would be no good change. It's very simple,

    “Those who can't follow laws can never enforce it on others”.

    Making Asif vice captian is to spoil his career. Draging him into the team politics. Giving him the taste of ruling.

  • Jaanasheenster on May 10, 2007, 16:30 GMT

    I hope the "jaali kaaghazaat karobar" is still going on in Pakistan. We need people from smaller provinces to produce fake domiciles and birth certificates showing their conection to Punjab. Not to mention work on their accents! This is the only way they are gonna go places in this team. I mean enough is enough! This is getting ridiculus...

  • Saher Khalid on May 10, 2007, 16:03 GMT

    My reaction to Mohammad Asif's Vice captaincy is as indifferent as Shoaib Malik;s Captaincy announcement. We are looking for a new generation of cricketers, it is at this point anyones game and the history yet to be written. Though Mohammad Asif is STILL a developing bowler let alone a Leader, how it affects his bowling, temperament is YET to be concluded!

    As they say in desperate decisions in desperate times, may the best man win!

  • khansahab on May 10, 2007, 15:28 GMT

    India looked like they were heading for a defeat before Karthik came in. This tells you the significance of having players who can absorb pressure. It only makes the case for including Asim Kamal in the national side, stronger. If you recall Karthik did not do a bad job as opener too. I keep insisting the need for having flexible players like Malik who can bat on different positions. But these players must have a sound temperament and good pressure absorbing skill; they must not be as confused as Abdul Razzaq. Hence my earlier assertion that Yousuf and Malik would make good openers or in any event they can provide more stable foundations then what Butt and Nazir etc can provide. We might see occasional sparks of brilliance from our so called specialist openers but at the end of the day they will not be consistent. Yousuf averages 55 at no 3 whereas Malik averages 43 at that position, as per Ramiz Raja. When they have been batting at those positions they have been adopting the role of makeshift openers anyway (because the openers have got out cheaply) so why not just send them at no 1 and 2? We have talented players like Yasir Hameed, Misbah Ul Haq, Asim Kamal, Fawad Alam, Babar Naeem, Mohammad Hafeez etc who can bat proficiently in the middle order. Most of them are experienced middle order players anyway.

    India’s system is similar to us but they are more sensible people and that reflects in their selection process. Tendulkar has been dropped whereas he has a good record against Bangladesh. Why can we not do the same with Razzaq and Akmal? We need to keep the players on the knife edge; only then will they give their 100% in every match.

    One thing which India does not realise (and this is a problem with Pakistan too) is the question of getting the right balance between batting and bowling. The reason why India is not a top team is because they have always gone with a stronger batting attack than a bowling attack. It seems that India cannot keep more than 4 specialist bowlers in its team. They lack that extra specialist bowler who can give them the edge. How many times have we seen Zaheer, Agarkar and Sreesanth being accompanied by Harbhajan? Yes Tendulkar, Yuvraj and Sehwag can be useful bowlers but they are not always effective because bowling is not their forte. Similarly in Pakistan we have relied too much on Razzaq as our fourth specialist bowler whereas he can’t do anything right. Prior to Afridi’s resurgence in international cricket (he became a more penetrative bowler after his return) we relied too much on this bowling too when he clearly was not up to the mark. I have stated this before and will state it again: Razzaq and Afridi have been greater liabilities to Pakistan cricket than they have been assets. My view is to have four specialist bowlers in the playing XI and this strategy is even more commendable in the light of Rao and Sami’s recent batting exploits where they have shown they can bat. We have good ODI bowlers in Afridi and Hafeez. I do not think this will result in a poorer quality of batting because having Razzaq instead of Rao or Sami did not help anyway in the first place. Razzaq’s place should be taken by Rao for the time being. As long as Afridi and Hafeez can bowl the way they have been bowling for the past year and make 30 odd runs per innings, they should not be dropped. We have these two all rounders who are in good bowling and fielding form and we have Rao who can bat too- that covers our lower middle order. In tailenders we will most likely have Gul, Asif and Shoaib/Najaf/Anwar Ali/Irshad etc. Although I was not impressed by Khalil’s debut I don’t think it’s a bad idea to actually have one left arm bowler provided he performs; left armers are generally more effective because of the unusual angle they bowl at. So if I was a selector or team manager I would create competition between Khalil and Najaf so that we can see them improve.

    I have faced criticism for the above strategies by Javed Bhai and Wasim Bhai, amongst others. I recall Wasim Bhai recently expressed disappointment over only two new faces in the squad and stated that “same players will produce same results.” I can build upon this and say that same strategies will also produce the same results. I do believe it’s time to go with the idea of Malik and Yousuf opening and having 4 specialist fast bowlers in the team. If you ask me with Yousuf and Malik batting more responsibly, as well has Hameed, Kamal, Alam etc being included in the middle order with Afridi and Hafeez to follow, does not really make it a bad batting order.

  • Yousuf Khan on May 10, 2007, 12:12 GMT

    Sad to read comments by 'Posted by: khansahab at May 8, 2007 1:35 PM'. Far from reality, what our fellow blogger wrote.

    It does not address the topic or lead to any discussion. His comments were inapproriate and stupid to say the least. I suggest such comments be filtered!

  • Rauf on May 10, 2007, 11:51 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi, after the WC fiasco you were whining that PCB needs to make some changes in the team, now you criticize them for doing exactly that. Maybe you should offer your services to PCB to select a team... but wait, then others will criticize you on your choice. You can never satisfy all of the people all of the time.

    Although I don't agree with PCB chairman, I think he is the wrong person for the job but I like that atleast they are making some changes. Asif is a hard working proven talent who should be given the opportunities. Drug tests are in doubt at this time. Even if he did take them intentionaly but repents his mistake and won't do it again, I would like to give him a chance rather then outcast him for the rest of his career.

    I don't like Shoaib Akhtar's work ethics so I will not back him but I will back Asif 100%. Give him a chance. Even if he proves to be a mediocre VC, he is statistically still the best bowler in the team. Drug tests maybe the least of his worries... if he continues to perform well and taking wickets, ICC may ban him for throwing or for excessively squinting during his run up or something else. How dare they compare him to McGrath ;)

  • Mohammed Munir - Sharjah, UAE. on May 10, 2007, 10:15 GMT

    Another PCB Joke ....... I wish someone removes this urologist Ashref before Pakistan’s test cricketing status is revoked by the ICC, just like what ICC did to Zimbabwe.

    Following are funny articles:

    (16.04.2007) PCB sacks 80 employees http://content-gulf.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/290771.html

    (19.04.2007) PCB reinstates 66 'sacked' employees http://content-gulf.cricinfo.com/pakistan/content/story/291377.html

  • Anwar on May 10, 2007, 9:38 GMT

    Good Choice to make Asif as vice captin! Many people crticize on his selection as vice captin. but i think he is the only bowler who is considered as permanent in the long term plans of PCB. Do not be negative! Be positive let's support our team now we have good combination of lads with few exceptions. And media and ex-crickters should also support these lads and captancy styles for at least 2 years. and help to make a system

  • EAMIRAN on May 10, 2007, 5:06 GMT

    WASIM SAQUIB

    Your comments are well received and you are quite right on the matter of steroids - they improve strength and stamina. Blood cells are able to carry oxygen through the body more efficiently, thereby delaying the onset of fatigue. I did write a piece on this in a previous blog when news of the Doping Scandal first broke out. I did not want to repeat myself again; however my point then and now is that all elite athletes have "done" the drug at some point in their career, and many continue to do so. It may be less prevalent in cricket, I can not say for sure; however most Olympic events have featured "great" athletes that are on the "juice" - they just don't get caught! Many other sports including soccer, American football, baseball, basketball, rugby and ofcourse bodybuilding (professional and amateur)are full of roided athletes. Everybody and anybody associated with professional athletes knows of this unspoken truth. Contrary to popular belief, there is a level playing field out there. In the 1950's and 60's steroids was legal, and unfortunately, abused to such an extent that health (sometimes severe) problems started appearing. Anything in excess is harmful, steroids being no exception, and it was then that people in the medical community promptly decided (erroneously IMO)to ban it. Why tobacco is still legal is mind-boggling, considering the known dangers associated with smoking it, or in the case of 2nd hand smokers inhaling residual smoke. Yet they sponsor our cricket tournaments - what a joke! Now there is something immoral about that. In any case today's legal performance enhancing supplements will be deemed as illegal drugs tomorrow. Creatine is potentially one such supplement. Although one can still buy it over the counter, there is debate whether it should be allowed to continue. Protein powders and vitamins are supplements, yet they are artificially manufactured (like steroids). The dosage in one vitamin tablet or 1 teaspoon of protein powder far exceeds anything derived from a "natural food source". Similarly caffeine can be considered a performance enhancing drug (as can it's close cousin Cocaine which is already an illegal drug). Track and field records continue to be broken year after year. This is not all due to better training regimens, or a larger pool of elite athletes, but also to better "nutritional science" (legal/illegal drugs/supplements). A common saying in body building is that physical training accounts for only 30% of the bodies gains - the remaining 70% is attributed to diet.

    The medical community is just beginning to explore the realm of sports medicine. There will be newer designer performance enhancing drugs, blocking and masking agents that will continue to "fool" the suits in organizations such as WADA. Let us not be naive and claim some athletes are being cheated and others are immoral. Everyone does it and the competition is fierce - welcome to the life of a professional athlete! At the same time I do not in any way want to promote or prescribe harmful drugs. I do feel that some performance enhancing drugs that are banned are not harmful when taken in moderate amounts and under the watchful eye of a medical professional.In fact some may be beneficial to the general population. More studies are required.

    Finally, I would like to see the cream of the crop play consistently - quality over mediocrity. Selfish it may be, but give me the Akhtars, the Asifs, and the Warnes, over the Ranas anyday.

  • F Khan on May 10, 2007, 2:54 GMT

    Just a few months ago when Asif got caught doping, everyone defended him saying that he is too young and could not understand english very well. And that the poor soul was mislead into doping by Shoaib. Now suddenly he has become clever, smart and overnight has become capable to leed national team. What is wrong with everyone.

  • Rock on May 9, 2007, 23:53 GMT

    what i think is that the most experience players should open the batting because the new players can't read the ball like what Australia does all there most experience players open and then there is no pressure on the new players then they can play freely. i think Shoib n Yousuf should open.

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on May 9, 2007, 19:45 GMT

    Caly high, the picture of Asif on cricinfo and the caption below is not a direct quote from Mohammad Asif, it has no relevance to the picture and, I have deliberately added one word to make it sound funny, it doesn't mean I have altered the Holy Gospel. Come on whats wrong with your sense of humour? Is it still frozen in the highlands of Calgary?

    Gulab Khan, if you have a link to that interview please post it here. I would like to see. I wonder why that Punjabi blood went after a Hyderabadi water melon or should I say after bagharay baingan? That is rude of him to create such kinda jingoism on TV.

    Regarding the Pak - SL 3 match series in Abu Dhabi, I think its cruelty towards cricket players to have a day match in that country during this time of the year when temperatures would be in plus 40C. If anyone remember that Sharjah Test match in 2002 the temperature was close to plus 50C. And Pakistan were defeated by an innings by Australia and, in both innings Pak were bundled out for 59 & 53 only. It also happens to be Pakistan's lowest test match score, ever! As it is there has been a lot of cricket in the recent past, this Abu Dhabi series seems to be a farce with hardly any interest for most cricket lovers and viewers especially, from Sri Lankan point of view.

    Wasim Saqib you may call it as the most stupidest comment or whatever you may like, but your example of Wasim and Imran does not hold any waters. Imran, yes, Wasim "NO." Wasim Akram was a very good bowler but, not a captain. There are so many controversies about him, especially when he opted out of the semi-finals in 1996 WC at Bangalore, there are so many rumours about him and later on, even more after the SA WC ........ lets not discuss that. But, he isn't an example to quote as a good captain, not at all! And, making Asif a VC is a big joke, the PCB is a laughing stock in the cricketing world. I mean, not that they weren't before, but they keep on doing the most stupidest things any board has ever done! To support their action or their decision to appoint Asif is not less than being stupid.

    rajan WADA = World Anti-Doping Agency.

  • Hassan on May 9, 2007, 19:25 GMT

    Yeah on that note which Kamran Abbasi has pointed out, It is too early because his doping case is still pending.

    But If we don't consider here the doping case. Muhammad Asif is a Good choice for a Vice-Captian. The Reason behind is this that Our Captain is a Batsman and if our vice-Captain would be a Batsman then there would be again Flat tracks in Pakistani Stadiums.

    But now the Captain is batsman and Vice-Captain is an excellent Bowler who performs wonderfully well in Supporting wickets. i don't think that he would allow the qeuraters to make a Complete Batsman Paradise in home series. He will definitly want a supporting wicket in home grounds.

    With the Coordination of Mailk and Asif there would be Balanced Tracks in the Home Grounds. And in that way our batsmens will be used to of Bouncy Wickets. Thats just my way of Thinking

  • Aftab Qureshi on May 9, 2007, 17:23 GMT

    To criticize is the easiest thing to do and we all love the easy way. Give me a break, give me a better alternative for the vice captaincy!

  • WAQAR-USA on May 9, 2007, 16:58 GMT

    Guys can any body put something in the mouth of this guy named Khansahab,I visit this Blog every now and then, this dude always write malicious and negative comments about Pakistan and our players I guess he is an Indian trying to pose like a Pakistani.He does not know Sh..t about cricket, I'm surprised why he is always so angry at us, maybe coz he is "PEECHAY say Pathan aur AGEY sey hindustani,I feel sorry for him, Khansahb or whatever your name is take a CHILL PILL.We are proud of our country,you don't like it then u can go to hell.

  • Shahzad from Canada on May 9, 2007, 16:48 GMT

    I believe its a good and bold move. I do not agree that PCB should have waited for WADA case to be resolve, because Asif and Shoaib were not proven guilty by Pakistani Court, and as it stands they are good to play.

  • Usman Aziz on May 9, 2007, 16:00 GMT

    I believe he is ONLY appointed for the current series.. As I mentioned in previous blog on this issue, Salman Butt (provided if he earns the spot in the team) should be named a long term vice-captain instead of picking a new name every time.. Worst outcome will be if Pakistan's vice-captain (Asif) is pulled into Nandrolone snare (still a hanging sword).. We already have had enough of bad repute!

  • Sameer Ali on May 9, 2007, 15:28 GMT

    My advice to people like Mr. Javed A. Khan & Mr. Khansaab: please use your precious time for some other valuable work. I have observed that you people do a lot of research work on Pak Cricket & it seems that you follow all news related to Pak Cricket no matter where it occurs. I got the feeling that you guys are just taking it too seriously & losing your precious time. Please bear in mind that your analysis & comments after comments are not going to change the way PCB works, so relax and take a life. Do something more valuable then just showing-off.

  • Sriram on May 9, 2007, 15:11 GMT

    A man's traits come out in the face of adversity and I applaud the PCB for giving the youngster a second chance. Every person giving a feedback to this topic is guilty of doing bad in some capacity and didnt we all get a second chance at life?

  • ahsan787 on May 9, 2007, 14:19 GMT

    Khan sahab,

    You’re originally from Pakistan? So, I'm assuming you live somewhere abroad. If you’re so concerned about how things are run in Pakistan, go back there and try to fix it. There is no need to make such rude comments about Pakistan.

    Razzaq’s bowling has been declining the past few years, but his batting is the same. I saw a Shahid Afridi interview on GEO just yesterday, he seems like he would have been a passionate leader. He’s more experienced than both Malik and Asif.

  • Sheheryar Khan on May 9, 2007, 13:54 GMT

    Strange choice I think! Seems somewhat random. Why not Salman Butt? Maybe they just had a gut feeling that he might have what it takes and just want to test him out. History has shown that not too many bowlers have made successful captains. And this one certainly has no experience of leading at ANY level whatsoever. Good luck Asif!

  • Miten Davda on May 9, 2007, 12:50 GMT

    What a moronic move by the PCB, these folks can't seems to get a thing right...ever. This man who has substance abuse charges against him and has hardly been around international cricket for a couple of years has been made vice-captain! He needs to have the charges cleared and prove himself for another couple of years atleast before being put in a position of power. Ridiculous decision-making!

  • Asif - Switzerland on May 9, 2007, 12:19 GMT

    Anything can happen with the existing PCB team. We can imagine the state of mind of these old minds.One person spend all his life outside pakistan and then he came to pakistan to improve human development condition in pakistan and later on he became the chairman of PCB. The same person asking defining qualifications for training coach; does he himself qualify for the job of PCB? What qualification and experience he brought to his job. We have already seen state of human development. The second executive, Salim Altaf, they need to mow their lawn and play with thier grand kids but he has support of 60% population of pakistan so nobody can touch him.

  • mohammed naushad siddiqui on May 9, 2007, 12:07 GMT

    it's a totally ridiculous move by PCB. History tells us that the great individual performers are never a great captains or successfull ones.Remember what happened with Andrew Flintoff ,a few months back.He has lost his form.Just see anybody's example see Sachin tendulkar,see Brian Lara,see rahul dravid ,sourav ganguly, marvan atapattu,or anybody ........... they all have lost form sooner or later when handled the resposibility.Captaincy is job that requires a good communication and relations with u'r fellow team mates and a courage to come forward,a sharp sense of cricketing skills, and more importantly the natural game of captain.

  • Syed Akif Shoaib on May 9, 2007, 11:47 GMT

    Perfect choice. Exactly what was needed. SCORE! PCB-1, Stupid fans-0 !

  • Syed Ali Altaf on May 9, 2007, 11:13 GMT

    well i think the move to appoint both youngsters at the helm of Pakistan cricket could backfire. the senior players may feel left out with this scenario especially ppl like afridi and Shoaib Akhtar. this could create a rift between the team, which surely no one wants. You must have to keep in mind that our mentality is not like that of south africans or Australians...there surely will be some repercussions on appointing a young captain and a vice captain. if you look at Pakistan cricket's history the most successful periods of our cricket came under bowling captains. and whenever a bowler was at the helm the thinking was agressive...this could well be the reason to appoint Asif as a VC coz PCB may be looking for a bowling captain in the future. .. just a thought

  • Hamza on May 9, 2007, 11:07 GMT

    Heheh...well aussies use squash balls to score centuries and they get away with it. Pakis use drugs to get the same result but instead, get caught. Rules do not determine immorality in an action. Nicking the ball and then pretending u never nicked it is very immoral but within the laws of the game. Because it's within the laws of the game, nobody abhors it despite being a blatant act of cheating. Using squash balls in your gloves to cover your weak areas is just as immoral as taking drugs to ball faster. The only difference is, one is within the laws of the game and the other isn't.

    So i'd say 'Everybody is immoral, pakis are stupid as well'

  • Farhan on May 9, 2007, 10:00 GMT

    I think this is a pretty early decision. But no doubt Asif will be one of the greatest fast bowlers in the history of cricket, if he uses the thing on his neck, a little bit. His ability is out of question but he should not be pressured this pre-maturely. I panic his glory may be finished long before, if this sort of things continue.

    My prayer, Asif, go strong. Allah will help u. You are the one who can lift the crown on behalf of Pakistan !

  • aj on May 9, 2007, 9:37 GMT

    to abdul basit canada and others vying for afrdi. Yes he was good in the twenty twenty, but if you think that he is captaincy material (in tests, no,in odi's he may well be,) he isn't. He is a bat-brandishing, pitch-scuffing, red-mist- descends-quick on me, hot head living on past glories.

  • Saqib on May 9, 2007, 8:50 GMT

    AOA

    I am again asking blog owner to filter out those comments which are degrading, pathetic and disgraceful. These comments are really making your blog very very nasty

    ALLAH HAFIZ

  • khansahab on May 9, 2007, 8:30 GMT

    I have just seen Shoaib Malik’s interview with Nadia Khan on youtube. I must confess that I am disappointed. He has shown himself to be an arrogant and “shallow” individual; I can only hope that he improves his attitude. Otherwise he would find it hard to get on with people.

    Malik and Nadia have contrasting personalities. She is a pro Musharaf and liberal-minded lady whereas he is a potential Tableeghi with lesser finesse. Now there might be a slight bias here because I fancy Nadia, but anyway it was shocking to see how she was explaining him the virtues of projecting his image well to the rest of the world and he kept cutting her off with “Inshallah” and “Aap dekhein”. I really don’t want to be more unpopular with the masses but contrary to my earlier assessment of Malik, he showed himself as your quintessential Pay&Do. He might be facing a “clash of views” being from a conservative family/being a potential Tableeghi on the one hand, and a modern poster boy on the other.

    However I still back him for the captaincy position as opposed to Afridi and Yousuf. Afridi was unimpressive as well in his interview to Nadia and the emphasis was again too much on “Inshallah” and he kept asserting that winning and losing is a part of the game and therefore the team must not be harshly blamed. That attitude tells you just how seriously the man takes his game. That is really a joke! So I stand by my original statement that Malik is the best of the bad lot.

    Yousuf is of course a class batsman but we do not need another Maulvi to lead us. As far as I’m concerned the only problem with Yousuf is the Maulvi-ness. Otherwise he has a permanent place in the team, respect of his team-mates and plenty of experience (yes his fielding is poor but his batting skill makes up for quite a bit). These three reasons are why I backed him for the position of vice captain, so that some stability can be injected since we have a raw and inexperienced captain on the other hand.

  • Muneeb Akhtar From Bahrain on May 9, 2007, 7:53 GMT

    As per my point of view I think that Mohd Asif is a highly caliber bowler there is no doubt about his ability. He will be a asset for Pakistan in future but I think that if this responsibility which have been given to him so Abu Dhabi Tour will defiantly effect his bowling.

    We cannot forget the last year record which Mohammed Yousif made more over he is the only one Batsman in Pakistan Batting lineup who can take the responsibility. I think PCB should have to give him a chance for the next tour at least give him some respect the efforts he made for Pakistan. I am really sorry to say but its become PCB habit that the quality Players have never given chance to perform in fact there is no encouragement for the Board to the Players. Hope and wish that PCB will take appropriate action and try to learn from there mistakes which they have made in the past.

  • atif malik- USA on May 9, 2007, 7:49 GMT

    reply to "Muhammad Hasan" "Kamran, you have been writing articles about Pakistani cricket for .........Your a disgrace to Pakistan and should consider writing articles for Indian newspapers. If you would like to debate an issue about Pakistan cricket, feel free to e mail me anytime. I would love to prove your ignorant little tail wrong"

    I totally agree with u hasan....

  • Azfar on May 9, 2007, 7:47 GMT

    Too early and too soon! We need to groom him to be the voice for Pak team. His personality cannot demand authority. I think Shoib Malik earned his spot but Asif has not. Now the questions does come up who should it be. Cannot be anyone from the seniors as it defies the reason Shoib was made captain. So in all fairness Asif clicks for this post. Bad think for Kamran Akmal, if only he had kept his act together and performed he may been picked up as Vice! We may see a change in command after 6 months or so!

  • Shahid Gul on May 9, 2007, 7:03 GMT

    selecting 5 openers in a Team and the Team still struggels to find a pair of openers to stick to ,tell you all about the knowledge of cricket they(PCB) have about cricket. Glen Mcgrath remained in the team for 15 years but never appointed as a vice captain but he still performed to his maximum talent.but in pakistan we have a track record to destroy the talents and the latest one will be asif. i think shahid afridi shuld have been the captain and shoaib malik as vice captain.shahid afridi is senior,agressive,confident,better spoken and shoib malik would have been perfect deputy (grooming in to be the next captain).by selecting shoib as captain the managment has sown the seeds of yet another debacle (knowing the pakistani nation and specially the components of the Team itself)selecting afridi would have settled the issue of of seniority . also people say about the test team,if you look at that closely, you will find that shahid afridi has better test record than shoib malik as a player.Shahid has won us matches with his batting and bowling.while i acknowledge shoaib mailk innings in sri lanka but thats only one example,and to lead a national team you need more than one example. i rest my case to the readers.

  • Nash on May 9, 2007, 6:53 GMT

    "A Vice too early" - Nice play on words!!

  • Zain Kazmi on May 9, 2007, 5:51 GMT

    Whatever one of our blogmate i think ( khansahab) has said in his comments about Pakisatn ,,i think its just the way of getting attention of other people on this blog..... and nothing else really...!

    Yes this blog practically practices "democracy" it gives freedom of speech to everyone , but it doesn't means that u take wrong advantage of that and write whatever comes in ur mind.. its Prohibited to humiliate country.

    I hope this 'd be the first and the last time we read that sort of comments( just hope not warning)and all of our friends continue sharing their fruitful thoughts on this blog and dont make such silly comments to look prominent.

  • HelloWorld on May 9, 2007, 4:31 GMT

    But why Asif ??? If PCB is hell bent on giving the chance of captaincy to a bowler why not Kaneria or Umer Gul ?? Both are regular members of team. I really couldn't see any logic behind nominating Asif as VC. Even if this is to encourage emerging talent than Umer Gul bowling stats are not much different from Asif. Really strange decision. What else I can say

  • Hussain on May 9, 2007, 4:14 GMT

    I agree it's a little too early. One interesting point to note is shoaib's comment that "people have seen how some players have expressed their desire to be the captain even though I don't have a problem" referring to Yousuf. Seriously this guy has never been a team player and will never be. It will be a shame if he is given a chance. Just imagine how can you sit in the same dressing room when you have publicly taken a cheap shot at your senior colleague?

  • Mabsoos Ahmad on May 9, 2007, 4:11 GMT

    Kamran Sabhib,

    Another hasty decision by PCB to appoint Asif as VC. I am of the opinion that Fast Bowler may not be appointed as VC Or Captain since he has to do more stringent job rather than any one in the field. They should be given specific job i.e. to take wicket with hard work only, then how come he concentrate planning on the field. Asif is too young to handle the pressure situation and I suspect he will loose his grip. Another big question, WADA issue has not been solved. What message PCB wants to send???

    I agree with Javed Bhai, and cited a good example of Hakeem Luqueman. PCB is still running by some figures who need not take such a hasty decision without giving second thought. I agree that they have included two young legs and it is a good idea. They should always try some new legs on each tour so that their bench strenght should be as good as we can replace anyone. I always see bright side of everything but this time I am not in favour of this foolish decision of appointing Asif as VC.

  • Zohaib on May 9, 2007, 3:40 GMT

    I think the issue of drugs are behind us .PCB probably made him vice captain because drugs are out of his system now.Asif is the only player who is a true match winner amongst our current lot of bowlers( barring Shoaib who usually plays two games a year).More important is the issue of stupid people running our cricket like the chairman who has only played one first class match in his career.More emphasis should be placed on changing our dying cricket structure which has fail to polish batsmen like Javed or Anwar.

  • Adeel Khalid on May 9, 2007, 3:38 GMT

    I don't think its a vice move to make Asif a vice captain!!! he doesn't have enough experience to support Shoaib Malik. Players like Yousaf & Afridi were the best choice. The bottom line is that PCB lacks a cricketing Brain!!!!!

  • Sheharyar Malik on May 9, 2007, 3:32 GMT

    The current situation is yet another exposition of the fundamental weaknesses in Pakistan cricket. The decision's are taken with haste, and the rash changes in policies from one chain of command to another is almost farcical. Allow me to list some of the most glaring incongruities of the cricketing hierarchy in a country where the sheer depth of talent deserves better organisation: 1. Nasim Ashraf - so what#s his background again in cricket? 2. Mohammed Asif as vice captain: 9 tests and 22 ODI's (and I'm generously disregarding the face-off with WADA here) is all he's got to show. His class as a bowler has shone through, but I'm at loss to explain how he proved himself to be a leader 3. The likes of Abdul Razzak and Shahid Afridi have been long enough in the team to claim consistent performance (although that again is arguable). In a clear case of lack of visibility into each of the potential candidate's leaderhsip potential, shouldn't they have been given the nod ahead of Asif? 4. It's almost ludicrous how the board chooses to "experiment" at the international level. A more sustainable strategy would be develop s system of domestic cricket that produces seasoned performers - check out Australia.

  • Ather Shah Khan Aurakzai, Toronto Canada North America Earth on May 9, 2007, 3:13 GMT

    The sun will rise in the East every morning, the swallows will come back to Capistrano every March and this blog - like Pak cricket - will keep attaining new levels of meiocrity. Hands will be wrung, misinformed comments will fly, yawns will be stifled and nothing of any consequence will change.

  • rajan on May 9, 2007, 2:07 GMT

    Kamran Sahib, what's WADA?

  • sean on May 9, 2007, 0:11 GMT

    Do you want to know what the rest ofthe world thinks?

    Asif = drug cheat Pakistan = knowingly complict with cheating

    When does Pakistan think its going to show some moral fibre, despite all the positive 'pak spin' about the piety of inzaman et al. It is unbelievably tiresome to hear racist tirades from the Asian bloc about the lack of sportsmanship of Australia, and then be confronted with this.

  • WASIM SAQIB on May 8, 2007, 22:38 GMT

    EAMIRAN:

    This is the first time I have to disagree with you, Performance Enhancing drugs are immoral as they not only delay pain but they also delay fatigue, hence enabling a bowler to bowl at the same pace and accuracy without feeling pain or fatigue, and you would agree that this is an Unfair advantage. It is also true that most of the times these drugs are used by athletes to heal their injuries quickly, we will never know for what reason Asif and Shoaib used these substances, but the lesson we should learn here is "that no matter what the cost we should never compromise on principles and should never go for short cuts for short term benefits".I don’t know how this scandal will come to an end most likely PCB will regret its decisions "KAY SAU PIYAZ BHI KHA LIYE AUR SAU JOTEY BHI".

    Anyhow we will have to wait and see, as far as other criticism of Asif regarding Leadership skills and some other petty stuff is concerned its only criticism for the sake of criticism these guys will never stop.We cannot comment about his leadership skills unless we watch him perform as a leader,and as far as losing him as a bowler due to stress its the most stupidest comment I have read on this thread, we never lost Wasim, Waqar or Imran they were all fine as Captain.

    I have no Idea from where these guys invent their theories they completely lack substance.

  • Muhammad Hasan on May 8, 2007, 22:13 GMT

    Kamran, you have been writing articles about Pakistani cricket for quite some time now. Frankly, I am sick of your wining, kiss-ass attitude towards the ICC. It is one thing to point out faults in Pakistani cricket, but criticizing a team (and that too, yours) for every decision it makes is completely uncalled for. I hate to say it, but people like you and Samiuddin are disgraces to Pakistan. Being a journalist, you can at least look up the details of the trial before posting another one of your ridiculously embarrassing and biased articles. Asif and Akhtar both had a level of Nandrolone much lower than the limit - 22mg. All athletes have Nandrolone levels between 13mg-17mg. To be fair, all of this propaganda was an effort by the PCB to somehow prove its loyalty to the ICC and immediately accuse two of its star players of doping. Research your facts next time before embarrassing all of your fellow Pakistani's Abbassi. Your a disgrace to Pakistan and should consider writing articles for Indian newspapers. If you would like to debate an issue about Pakistan cricket, feel free to e mail me anytime. I would love to prove your ignorant little tail wrong.

  • Sameer on May 8, 2007, 21:48 GMT

    Mohammad Asif is going to lead by example. And eventually as he grows as a leader, he would become a great leader too. He's got the flare in him.

  • Ejaz on May 8, 2007, 20:36 GMT

    I wish the team good luck. Now the chance is given to the folks, let's wait and check their creditability without the superstars (lol). I have no doubt that Malik would come out as a shining star with the coming series against SLA. But things to remember is that SLA would not be playing their full strength. Is PaKk playing full strength? You bet yah! Malik might never be able to get desired performance from Akthar, Younis and Afridi. So this is it! Malik is getting a chance to prove his abilities to make right changes at right time; he may or may not win the series but he is there to show all of us his CAP skills. Kamran, can you have discussion on his skills and your view after the series. Thanks,

  • O'Neill on May 8, 2007, 20:03 GMT

    Mohammad Asif is a good option as vice captain considering he is the only world class player playing for pakistan at the moment.

  • saif ahmed on May 8, 2007, 19:24 GMT

    There we go again! We saw it coming though, it is useless to expect anything but moranic from this bunch. One bad decision followed by another even worse. To see the names like Salman Butt, Kamran Akmal is just mind boggling. Middle order is as fragile as ever. Besides Yousuf who you gonna depend on. Fawad desrved it but he will need to prove himself in this series otherwise will have to face the same fate as some of his mates. Asim Kamal and Faisal Iqbal should now look for other careers cause I have a feeling that they have played their last. To leave Asim out at this juncture means he does not have a future in this team. I think we are going to face the same humiliation as we did in Hockey and Squash. Arrogance will only lead you to disgrace!

  • Zuhair Imtiaz on May 8, 2007, 19:17 GMT

    Khansahab, mate do ya know wat ur on about il tell ya rubbish. Who r u 2 say that Razzak doesn't know how 2 play cricket id like to see u try wait il spare the fans from embarresment. razzak has saved countless times and now your sayin he can't even hold a bat. I agree with Ahsan but i think all of ur views are rubbish. Pakistans stupid well i think ur stupid and your views r stupid u can keep ur stupid opinions 2 ur self.

  • shak on May 8, 2007, 18:26 GMT

    I think there is something "sinister/clever" approach in making. PCB may drop all senior player as soon as they performance drops. In that case they will try new player. If that happens, shoaib and asif will be senior player for next world cup.

  • Amyn Habib on May 8, 2007, 18:25 GMT

    Bold new move by the PCB? Really?

    The PCB has retained all the losers from the previous team, adding only a couple of new players. Even Hafeez and Imran Nazir are in the team.

    The new selection committee has sent a clear message. As many of us had feared, there will be no improvement, no vision to take the team forward. Just more of the same.

    The selection of Asif as Vice Captain (although it has brought howls of protest from the Afridi freaks) is of little importance.

  • aamna Mahboob on May 8, 2007, 18:10 GMT

    well im not a cricket fan but as i know our PCB is not doing good.... first they chose wrong caption now the V'caption. whenim reading news about pakistan;s cricket i feel like laughing over the organizers... what they r doing is wron.... we were champion in Squash but now c where v r? we were good in Hockey but no wwhere v r? v had only one hope whichwas cricket but now i dont have even a singel hope... whatever our sports organizers r doing is worn!!!!

    let wish together that v get our place back.... pray together

  • Ali Asim - Saginaw, Michigan USA on May 8, 2007, 18:06 GMT

    This move seems to be made in rather desperation than wisdom. But I could understand PCB's problem, who else remains for the slot if they dont want seniors for the job? Also I think its not that huge of an issue anyway. I mean common its just a matter of time we would be able to tell who steps up and proves to be more desserved option for the slot. Maybe its just a temporary move? And I hope it is. Because what it will do is that it will test Asif and will give time for the selectors to keenly observe anyone with the kahunas of steel.

  • Saad on May 8, 2007, 18:03 GMT

    I think PCB has overstepped it a bit while trying a little too hard to correct their errors.

    Malik is very young and needed a STRONG back-up to make some impact like AFRIDI or RAZZAQ ... I highly doubt if Asif would be able to provide that strong back-up for Malik.

  • Kashif Anwar, M.D. on May 8, 2007, 17:59 GMT

    response to this blog shows the intensity of emotions and sentiments of our nation for our cricket team...hmm..sometimes i feel like we are tooooo crazy for cricket. Anyways, Asif is the furture captain everyone knows that, so i think its a good time to groom him but my question is what in the world we all crazy fans could have done if Asif were appointed as a captain by PCB so i think its the time for us to say thanx to Allah that they didnt do that atleast!!! Trying to make a use of this blog i just want to show my emotions against only one man..it may not be related to this blog but i cant wait to say it any more.. YOUNIS KHAN should be banned for life to play pakistani cricket...to me he is a traitor who ran off the battle field hiding his face...first he didnt want to be a captain and then he preferred county cricket over his country beacuse he was 'upset' with his people's response. Sorry Mr. Younis khan you are not such a great batsman...you worked hard and thats why you were in the team not because you had a batting talent like yousuf or inzi. If people were wrong in reacting then he was worst because he ran away when pakistan his country and the nation needed him the most to regain the integrity of the nation and he put aside all only to score centuries in counties and beleive me sooner or later he will be re-claiming his spot in pak team to make things worst for shoaib, asif & rest of the gang ...come on younis you should have behaved a little better!! Anyhow with this team i think yasir hameed certainlly has more talent to fill in the number 3 spot all he needs is the confidence from the board. anyways GOOD LUCK to shoaib and asif...forget about WADA..scandals are part of pakistani thrilling cricket.

  • calgary highlander on May 8, 2007, 17:51 GMT

    Javed Khan, you have quoted Asif very, very wrongly. He did not say " I can' believe they made me vice. " He siad " They made me vice captain." Buddy, get your facts straight. It's sad that you and the link YOU posted say VERY different things.

  • RSN on May 8, 2007, 17:33 GMT

    Mcgrath of sheikhpura??? hmm.. he has to "EARN" that tag by playing superbly for another 4-5 years. that's a huge ask considering the drug scandal etc

    clearly, pak think tank has got no options. it would have been better if someone else was chosen.

  • Umer Ikram on May 8, 2007, 17:11 GMT

    i think making a person who is accused of taking drugs, should not be a vice captain. i mean think about it ppl we have umer gul,imran nazir and kamran akmal. one of them should have been the vice captain.

  • Ali Vaqar on May 8, 2007, 16:57 GMT

    It is surprising Mohammad Asif has been appointed Vice Captain. This really not a good decision taken by PCB. They have this decision in haste. Atleast some seniour player should have been considered for this job. There are reasons why Asif is not suitable for this job. Asif lacks match experience. He is not experienced enough to be vice captain. ALso he lacks proper aggression and positive body language. He has never been active but being sharif(humble) most of the time.

    It is too early to put Asif in this responsibility. He is too young to guide Shoaib Malik. Only experience players are able to do better mentoring and give proper guidance. Shahid Affiridi should have been appointed as vice captain. He is an experienced player and has played lots of matches. He has proper body language and aggression. Affiridi is active on field.

    PCB has really made the biggest joke and mockery in the history. It is totally regretable decision of PCB to appoint Asif as vice captain. Hope so still Pakistan are able to deliver thier best.

  • Abdul-Basit, calgary, Canada on May 8, 2007, 16:56 GMT

    Dear Blog Readers, First of all ask yourself the simple question; what should be the criteria for appointing Captain & V.C? There is no rocket science involved, its as simple as that: 1. The first and most important is that the guy should command his place in the playing eleven in both forms of the game i.e. Test & One day 2. He is mature enough and possess leadership skills, 3. And he should have atleast an acceptable physical fitness level record to be regularly available. thats all. Now honestly think and pick the guys under the above criteria and we will be ashamed to know what we have...?? Ashamed of the cricket structure, system, administration, what ever you call it but the ground reality is that we hardly can pick some one in the current team who fulfills all the above requirements. Now that the captain was announced earlier and we are debating the issue of Vice captaincy, lets apply the above principle for V.C. Just consider the 1st criteria to begin with and see how many players we have in that league. To me only 6 players get themselves into that category: 1. Mohammad Yousuf 2. Younis Khan 3. Shoaib Malik 4. Mohammad Asif 5. Shoaub Akhtar 6. Shahid Afridi Younis Khan has already distanced himself from captaincy and Yousuf is out of favor due to his laid back approach. Thus we filter 4 players to 2nd stage. Both Shoaib Akhtar & Asif don't pass the fitness criteria. And further in the case of Asif he is not mature enough to trust with this responsibility. Thus the obvious choice should have been Afridi. The problem is that many people including pcb think tanks...... don't consider him a worthy player in test cricket despite his better record and match winning performances. As I mentioned in my previous thread, Afridi should bat at no. 6 and to make that happen, either Malik has to open the innings or he has to wait the retirement of Inzi to get a slot in the middle order. It all depends where malik wants to bat. But one thing is sure that Afridi was the best bet for V.C. and for the uplifting of pak team. Watch out guys Afridi will be there sooner or later.. And I am sure those were the very reasons which prompted Kamran to come up with 2 vice captain theory as he didn't find a VC playing in both form of games. My sympthy to kamran who got mauling from his blog readers for suggesting an innovative idea.

  • Kalim Lodhi on May 8, 2007, 16:51 GMT

    Dear Kamran Abbasi I think you are the agent of PCB, because you are appreciating his wrong desision continsly. I am sory to say but this the fact that the stips of the PCB is wrong and I thing they making his team like Zembabwe. Pakistani team is now looking so weak and if this kind of desision is made, so we see the Pakistani not 3rd or 4th position but it lay down on 10th or may be 11th Position. They are just Hirting their senior plyers like Muhammad Yousaf and Shahid Afridi. Beacause Shahid has good experience of Captincy, but i dont why PBC ignoring this Star and Hero Plyer. I requesting u ( team of cric info) to forward my message to the highups of PCB "Dont play with cricket and our heros our star plyers. plz plz plz.

  • Atif Piracha on May 8, 2007, 16:50 GMT

    I would much rather have Yousuf as captain. We all know only reason, he is not appointed captain is because he is a mulla. PCB just wants image change after Inzy. Maliks's place in team is not firm. Yousuf has plenty of cricket for another 4-5 years. Asif is fine as vice captain, because he is second best player in side after Yousuf.

  • asif on May 8, 2007, 16:33 GMT

    It is just one more nonsense in a crazy tournament - why are the players being made to play in a stupid event in the heat of Abu Dhabi in May. Surely the PCB has enough money to avoid such stupidity that can do no good.

  • Nadeem Shafee on May 8, 2007, 16:30 GMT

    Both Captain & Vice Captain from the same town and represening same team in the domestic cricket i.e: SAILKOT.

    It is not a good management practise to have both Captain & Vice Captain from the same region and representing the same city and become leads of national team.

    It they are outstanding, I understand. But this is not the case.

    Please promote nationalisim in the PCB. I seen Shoaib Malik in Nadia Khan talk show (GEO TV) and I was very disappointed by his interview. Do any one have any comments on it?

    Nadeem UK

  • wajid on May 8, 2007, 16:29 GMT

    "Mohammad Asif, the McGrath of Sheikhapura,"

    kamran abbasi...it's scribes like you who are partly responsible for inflating these "inflatable" young men...most of whom are uneducated and coming straight from the villages...as far as appointing him the vice captain,it is a stupid move by PCB but that is expected from that bunch of jokers...see them squirm if and when WADA wins the case...but palistan cricket has bloomed despite all these odds.

  • Nabil on May 8, 2007, 16:25 GMT

    Not appointing Yousaf as vice captain is purely an anti-maulvi discrimination by this Enlightened Moderate PCB chairman and selection committee. There is no reason not to appoint your best batsman, experienced campaigner and clean guy as a captain or his deputy. Go Nasim Ashraf, Shame on You.

  • Fahad Zafar on May 8, 2007, 16:25 GMT

    We should fully support PCB's decision. I think Shoaib Malik and Mohd Asif should serve the purpose.

  • Omer on May 8, 2007, 16:23 GMT

    Assalam-u-alaikum I have read some comments on Asif being appointed as vc. I also feel that is a wrong move. Afridi would have been much better. He's an agressive player and still have much cricket left in him. But i feel some comments were too harsh. First of all, the words which has been used in some comments were too harsh. We're muslims. We shouldn't use these kind of language. And it's much easier to sit infront of the computer and give the comments. It's not that easy to make a decision. PCB must have seen some talent in Asif. They might sense that he has the ability to lead. There's their opinion. Everybody has their own opinion from their own view. Some wish to see Afridi as vc, and some wish for Yousuf, some for Younis, some for Abdur Razzak. It's the way you see the players. It's quite easy to point out the finger on others. Yes, as a citizen of pakistan u all hava a right to say what u want from your team. But it should be in a manner. I support the view of ahsan787. We should have some manners. That shows our character.

  • David on May 8, 2007, 16:20 GMT

    I saw Asif play several times in South Africa. When you watch a guy on the field you get a gut-feel about them. Asif bowled magnificently, and every time he was brought on the mood shifted. The crowd seemed to go quieter and most of them were probably thinking "Oh shit, here comes a wicket anytime now". I thought he was the best bowler on display on either side. But Asif himself did not exude an aura I would associate with leadership. He seemed to lapse too easily into petulance or reaction. When he was targeted by the batsmen, as Graeme Smith did when he was trying to play himself back into form, Asif seemed to allow himself to be intimidated, and to lose the plot. Overall, I thought he gave an impression of immaturity, someone who still needed to learn a thing or two about handling the pressures. This was in contrast to a guy like Kamran Akmal, who was positively awful behind the stumps, to the point of being comical. Yet he never gave up, and when he came out to bat, displayed great fighting spirit. He was up there with Yusuf, Younis, and Inzamam when it came to standing up to the South Africans. Perhaps I am influenced by the South African model where we have tough vice captain in Boucher, someone who you never doubt is going to stand up and deliver his best no matter what is thrown at him. Perhaps the vice captaincy will bring out this side of Asif, but I'm not convinced at this stage. I wish Pakistan the best - they are a great cricketing nation who have taken some nasty blows of late. Mohammad Asif has the talent to play a leading role in Pakistan's resurgence - I am sure he will let the ball do the talking.

  • Raja Pakistani on May 8, 2007, 16:19 GMT

    People who talk about A. Razzak as a Vice Captain are totally wrong.

    Razzak always become unfit against strong oponents like Austrlia & SA or in the big events. Check the last serise against Austrlia (he woke up with multiple sickness just b4 the match) and also he did not go SA because he was unfit. Same in ICC Champions (In india) & recent WC trophy. He always super fit against Bangla Desh & Zimababve, especially in home grounds and in Sharja.

    Kick him out.

    Razzak does not have place in the team on merit. He is the leader of player power mafia.

    Raja Pakistani Sailkot

  • Raashid Shunthoo on May 8, 2007, 16:12 GMT

    This decision of PCB will not create and ripples in what already appear troubled waters for them.Even if they would have announced some one uncapped it would have hardly mattered.The question to be pondered over is not that why Afridi or Razzaq were sidlined but why they need vice captain at all.Having said this i must add i have much doubt regarding his capabilities as a decision maker.Infact it is like catch eleven situation for PCB, which appears to be lost commodity.One can ask for the jusification of the same decision which i a sure they will not have. For Asif, it is time to move on and put to rest his flatulence, if any. He must perform as bowler first and later adapt to his new role.He can still prove me wrong by leading from front. Let us in short give him an honest to access himself, may be it works for good.

  • Imran Salat on May 8, 2007, 16:00 GMT

    My biggest concern would be that it might affect his bowling. Also having a senior as vice captin might have given better balance.

  • Kota Na Insaan on May 8, 2007, 15:56 GMT

    I love the fact that a player who has taken illegal drugs can become vice captain. Come on Asif take some more nandrolone so we can see some amazing swing deliveries.

  • kmselvan on May 8, 2007, 15:26 GMT

    Its a shame that druggie, intentionally or unintentionally, is appointed as vice captain. May be its the tradition to uplift corrupt people to higher office

  • Muhammad Ilyas (Moon) on May 8, 2007, 15:19 GMT

    This is very good move ! because all pakistani team have now changed. We have alots of time for next cricket world cup, so this is the bold and good decision for future of pakistan cricket. The fresh captain and vice captain made new combination and plannings for betterment of pakistan cricket. Inshallah

  • Yousuf on May 8, 2007, 14:52 GMT

    I totally agree with you kamran, yes he is a phenominal pakistani talent, but the role of vice captain i think is a little too much for him. I think that the obvious contender for vice is none other than Mohammed Yousuf, he has a lot of experience and could with no doubt be a real hand for Shoaib.

  • aj on May 8, 2007, 14:50 GMT

    Aoa, guys yes Asif has a cloud over him, but i have watched him play all his matches, and he has by far the best combination of cricketing brain and level headedness in the team. Don't know if he'd make a good captain as he may not be able to get across to other members as he's a bit softy softy but the guy has got more brains than a lot of our other boys put together! IDEAL VICE CAPTAIN!

  • Adnan Khan on May 8, 2007, 14:47 GMT

    I am totally disagree Mohammad Asif as a VC. Shahid khan afridi he is the one deserve for this. IF he get this job definetly he will take resposibility. Also in this matter of fitness.A batsman or allrounder can give most of time to team instead of a bowler. Please look at this point.

  • Gulab Khan on May 8, 2007, 14:45 GMT

    Both Captain & Vice Captain are from same region and same local team.(Sailkot) Obviously players from sailkot will be consider once again for the team. Good for Imran Nazir & other punjabi cricketrs. Pl. note: Our captain its also proud PUNJABI. Did you see Nadia Khan talk show on GEO TV, how Shoaib said arogantly that he has PUNJABI blood in his body. Does it make any difference for us?

    Gulab Khan Peshawer

  • Dawar, LA USA on May 8, 2007, 14:40 GMT

    I think " khansahab " brought some valid issues. I am not 100 % agree with his views but most of the issues he brought are really good & true. He missed to mentioned about Khalid Latif & Khurrum Manzoor. Both are doing wonderful jobs in the domestice cricket. They are better opener than Imran Nazir, Salman Butt & Mohd. Hafeez.

    Dawar LA, USA

  • Syed Rizvi on May 8, 2007, 14:38 GMT

    These appointments are not permanent. As they said, Captains will not have a tenure. Whoever agrees to do what they( the people who have the privilege to make money these days officially running the office given the name of PCB) want will be the Captain. Who better to be at the helm of the captaincy than one who threw a game in 20/20, and vice captaincy with drug use(abuse) history. They would not be able to raise their voice or they will be replaced. remember Rashid Latif who was the saviour Captain but removed like a Makhi from Doodh using his unfair catch appeal as a reason. Shahid Afridi and Razzaq do not have any reason to be considered since they would not take any BS. Yes Salman Butt could have been considered ( and will be) once he is in the Team first. If he acts out, he can sit on his B--- and watch the game from outside. This is the time of money making for the BOARD. They know that the way Cricket has been revolutionized, Pak cricket doesn't have a chance. Instead of the players making money, they want to make as much before it's someone elses' turn. Unfortunately, we don't have anyone who actually cares about Pakistan Cricket. All they care about is what benefits the can reap, and that such and such players should not succeed ( rather than hoping that their favorite/chamchays succeed, which eventually would mean performance). The state of our Cricket will continue to deteriorate as long as we let unprofessionals run it undemocratically. Look at the example of Newzealand. Fleming had been Captain for long time. His record is worse than Inzamam's as Captain, but the belief/faith shown by their Board is examplary. On the contrary, take WI Cricket which has had similar inconsistancies and you see the result in the field. What we need is to make a Captain and stick to him. After last WC debacle in SA, we brought in youth. Only Hafeez made it to the next WC. We got 100 partnerships from Farhat and Taufeeq for 3 tests in a row, plus several 50 plus in the 1 days. What we did was REST Taufeeq. He was never the same batsman after the REST. Then we dropped Butt because of his failure against Pathan instead of the Coaches working with his footwork. The result was again makeshift openers. Look at Australia and u see same openers regardless of any failures. If Hayden looses his position, he was able to find it back but in our system, once someone is out, his relatives have to be in office to make a comeback ( like Tauqeer Zia and his son). In the days of Imran, raw talent was identified and just put into the Test and 1 day arena. If they survived that, they were worth it. If not, then they would never. Now, for the last 8 years, we have same core of 18-20 players. 2 new faces make their way in ( maybe because of their beloved Chachas) and for the next tour its someone elses time. We won 2 juniour WC. None of those juniours were good enough to make it to the team. Just look at those 2 Juniour WC finalist teams play those games and I think those players would have done much better than this bunch of experienced professionals. Having taken out my (Dil Ki Bharas), I think a Bowler needs to be the eventual Captain. Our batting will always be below average. They can get out to any bowling side at anytime anywhere anyhow. It's our bowling which has to dismiss the opposition twice, and a bowling captain will do a better job knowing that the Bowlers have to make runs and bowl the opposition out within those runs. Whatever the Batsmen make is going to be the margin of victory.

  • Nadeem Shafee on May 8, 2007, 14:30 GMT

    I do not see any changes in the PCB attitude. Same people who brought our worst defeat any level of cricket are the part of our national team & PCB.

    Why Kamran Akamal, Abdul Razzak (trouble maker, current founder of player power mafia), Imran Nazir, Mohd. Hafeez are the part of team. They did not perform well when Pakistan needs it. we gave all of them multiple (non-stop) chances. Kamran Akmal never drop from the team after dropping multiple catches in each innings.

    This was the best time to replace team by young blood who won two under 19 world cups for us . where are Khalid Latif (Opener), Khurrum Manzoor (Opener), Jamshaed (FB), Anwar Ali (FB), Sarfraz Ahmaed (WC). Atleast they picked Fawad Alam & Najaf Shah for 15 man squad. Now captain should give chance to them in all three matches regardless of thier performance in the first one day match. This will bring up confidence.

    Mohd Asif is to early for him to become vice captain. Please remember he misbehave with Zhaeer Abbas in England tour. He involved in drugs, now he is the leader. what a example for our young generation? PCB sucks again.

    Nadeem UK

  • Valavan on May 8, 2007, 14:29 GMT

    Asif is a good choice to be a Vice captain to see the game for a longterm prospect. Nowadays not many bowlers emerge as captains or deputies. I wish Asif good luck and not to take any Perform Enhancing Drugs to spoil his career.

  • Hummam Bhutta on May 8, 2007, 14:27 GMT

    To be honest I don't mind Asif being VC that much, even I would have been more happier if Shoaib Akhtar or Shahid Afridi were chosen. But what I do am worried about is that will this affect his bowling? And has he any experience captaining a team before? Afridi did a great job with Karachi & got the attitude. But remember this is only for one series, I hope they get Shoaib Akhtar as VC! If he can play more than 1 series...

  • Haseeb Ahmed on May 8, 2007, 14:18 GMT

    In the grand traditions of Pakistan cricket, yet another promising career is about to be sacrificed. Has the dysfunctional PCB even thought about the potential ramifications of such a move on player discipline and dynamics? I can just see MoYo and the oldies leading a revolt after being abused by the young vice-captain.

  • Dinesh on May 8, 2007, 14:18 GMT

    No reason not to believe him ? How ? You know all steroid users are going to say the same thing "It got into my system through my grandma's headache medicine" or the likes of that. It would be stupid if we bought all their arguments. In my opinion, he is a fantastic fast bowler with a great future ahead of him, but he made a mistake !

  • Abdul Wahab on May 8, 2007, 13:59 GMT

    Well PCB has continued to surprising ppl...its a traditional art within the board. Asif no doubt a fantastic prospect for Pakistan bowling but we really havnt scene much of him to make our minds weather he wod be a good leader. May be the fact tht he is also from Sialkot and that the PCB dun wanna leave Malik alone and want to strengthen him by givin him, his own men under his arms. So far, from the glimpse of M.Asifs international career he seems to be promising (SA tour, the only bowler we had) challenging (his stint with the chicken man Peterson) n a persona who want to be a frontliner(indian tour of PAK). May be he turns out to be a good choice, but wat r the odds? no1 knows. Hopefully this hype does spoil him as Irfan Pathan was spoiled by the media hype. All the best for PAK team . wahab, UK

  • NFP on May 8, 2007, 13:56 GMT

    Had they made Shoaib Akhtar the captain and Shahid Afridi as Vice Captain, man, that would have made one hell of a combo. But that idiot Sallu has gone on to do what was expected of him. Get the meeks as captain and vice captain and rule the roost as a chief selector. I seriously see any difference between Shoaib Malik and Inzimam in terms of attitute towards the game (and lige in general.)

  • Hassan on May 8, 2007, 13:52 GMT

    Faraz, Shoaib Malik is from Sialkot and Muhammad Asif from Sheikhupura, two different cities. Why do people compare a city Karachi to whole province punjab? It would make sense if Karachi is compared to Lahore, Sialkot etc.

  • Affan Usmani on May 8, 2007, 13:48 GMT

    I think it isn't such a great move. My reason is that lets say God forbid Shoaib Malik gets injured. Then Asif becomes captain for a day. Then he will have pressure on himself. It is a 50/50 chance that it will effect his bowling. He's a great bowler, but it could effect his performance. Afridi was a good choice. You saw in the ABN-AMRO Twenty20 cup. He led from the front all the way to the finals. He should have been vice-captain.

  • khansahab on May 8, 2007, 13:47 GMT

    To all who are bashing me for my honest comments:

    THE TRUTH HURTS

    Mindless extremism, prevalent corruption and no foresight by the general public. These elements have made Pakistan into a dumb and ill-fated nation.

    I am originally Pakistani myself. ahsan787, what do you mean by "don't be ignorant". Perhaps you can attempt to disprove my point rather than make such bland comments?

    ahsan787, don't be stupid........:-)

    For Razzaq lovers, all I can say is that you guys haven't been following Pakistani cricket for the past two years. The simple fact is that if Razzaq was an England or Australian player he would be struggling to obtain a place even in a club side.

    He was one of my favourite players until about two years ago.

  • Yazi on May 8, 2007, 13:37 GMT

    Shouib Malik as a captain seems good decision, but Asif as vice captain this early I don't know. Espically with the drug scandal lingers on his head. Because of lack of commitment to health and fitness by some of our players we were left outsider on eve of world cup (espically shouib and asif) I think Razzaq might have been better choice for vc, someone more commited to the game as he has shown over years.

  • khansahab on May 8, 2007, 13:35 GMT

    So we have established that Pakistan is a corrupt and Tableeghi society. The following is what the corrupt and Tableeghi people would want:

    Reinstated captain for both ODI’s and Tests: The Right Honourable Maulana Inzamam ul Haq

    Full time, professional and techno-savvy coach: Mushtaq Ahmed aka “Maulana Mushy” or “Mushy Bhai”

    PCB Chairman:Dr Naseem Ashraf

    Joint PCB Directors of “Operations”: Salim Malik (Director of Financial Operations) and Mushtaq Ahmed (Director of Religious Operations)

    Selection Committee: Maulana Junaid Jamshed and Aamir Sohail

    Team Managers: Maulvi Saab Saeed Anwar and Sarfraz Nawaz

    Vice captain: Janab-e-Abdul Razzaq aka “Nach Punjaban” (Euceph Ahmed’s quote)

    “Media Managers”: Javed Miandad and Inzamam-ul-Haq

    Strike Bowlers: Maulana Rana Naved and Mohammad Sami

    Spinners: “Mohammad” Danish (note: NOT Danish Prabha Shankar Kaneria) and Maulana Saqlain Mushtaq

    Openers: Imran Farhat, Salman Butt, Imran Nazir or Mohammad Hafeez

    Middle order: Faisal Iqbal and Bazid Khan

    Permanent Wicketkeeper: Kamran Akmal

    Patron of PCB: Maulana Fazl ur Rehman

    Vice-Patron of PCB and Chief Financier: Qazi Hussain Ahmed

    PCB, National Academy and Training Camp base: Raiwind

    Chief Curator of PCB: (Future Maulana and renowned pitch-scuffer) Sahibzada Shahid Khan Afridi

    Future Captain: Maulana Rana Naved (Insha-Allah)

    International Commentators: Maulana Mushtaq Ahmed (“Wasim bowl from over wicket, ball out swing.....how possible?”) Aamir Sohail (Slow motion commentator) and Waqar Younis (“Mate I’ll show you my a-gression”)

    PCB Motto : “First of all thanks to Allah...........Tableegh is our pride, Islam is the light, Cricket will Insha-Allah be our might!”

  • Syed on May 8, 2007, 13:31 GMT

    I think Asif is not a correct choice for Vice captain, he was out of the world cup tournment and everyone knows the reason that he was not injured,he was out because of drugs,Such players should be banned for entire life those who are not honest. Pakistan board are now rewarding these players this is not good for pakistan cricket

  • ahsan787 on May 8, 2007, 13:18 GMT

    Well I think we should have made either, Razzaq or Afridi vice captain because of their experience. Afridi can be crazy sometimes, but that’s Pakistan cricket is, crazy. Razzaq I think is a wonderful cricket player, one of the top all-rounders in the world in my opinion. Asif probably should not have been appointed because of the doping issues. However, I think Asif can lead by example because he’s such a good bowler. Let’s hope for the best.

    For Khansaab:

    I do not agree with your views of some of the players, it’s a good analysis though. However, there is no need to call Pakistan a stupid country. You’re entitled to your opinion, but don’t be ignorant.

  • true_selector on May 8, 2007, 13:14 GMT

    I think Asif is the right choice for vice captain post as we have ran ourselves out of any legit options thru weirdly unexplanable experiments in cricket. I don't quite agree that Razzaq is uselss at the same time even merely thinking Kamran Akmal needs competition. I think Razzaq is still a very valuable option, if not an automatic selection, but only for ODIs. i don't know why he is selcted for test matches. And there is one man who has been responsible for pakistan playing with 10 players in the past 2 years and that is Kamran Akmal.He does not count in 11 as only contribution he makes is number of catches he drops or stumps he misses. I could not beleive my eyes when i saw his name selected again as that is the biggest joke ever. I would rather have wasim bari keep for pakistan and i know he will do a better job. I think bermuda had better keeper than pakistan in world cup. How many chances you can give to player like him (with my apologies for calling him a player)? And Hafeez as a test batsman? how are we going to beat bangladesh next time we play them. Shahid afridi, razzaq, hafeez, and azhar mahmood are all decent all rounders who can be selected alternately in ODIs only but none of these is a deserving test player at all. So we need to find true test batsmen and currently we only have one, yousaf. Rao Iftikhar? is he a real bowler at international level? certainly not but we keep selecting him when we have najaf shah and some other good seemers. Salman Butt definitely has talent and had he been given as many chances as hafeez, he would have been a regular opener by now. Imran nazir can be a world class opener if given 10-15 games consecutivley. These 2 are much better than others we have available. It doesn't look like we have learned our lessons and we ever will. God help us.

  • salman on May 8, 2007, 13:10 GMT

    WADA SHADA… forget all that business for the moment! just imagine a dressing room with inzi, younis and yousuf in it... being run by malik and asif!! even if we leave malik aside for the moment... say he gets injured for a match or something... the idea that asif, who has so little cricketing experience at the top level (let alone leadership experience), is going to tell the likes of inzi where to bat and where to field... well… I just cant wait to it happen!

  • Masud on May 8, 2007, 13:05 GMT

    I personally think and hope that may be PCB has some wise heads who, when decided to appoint Asif as vice captain, thought about all the allegations (whether true or not) he is facing, and conducted tests of their own to make sure that he is not convicted. Considering PCB's track record, I just hope that, I have no confidence in that unfortunately. Asif is a good choice for vice captain, he just needs to be out of the pressures he is facing this early in his career to perform good.

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on May 8, 2007, 12:44 GMT

    khansahab your comments went a bit too far this time i.e., about Pakistan, you've said: "Trust me only in a stupid country like Pakistan we can keep using him as opener and keep including Razzaq in the squad." Just because Razzaq is a simpleton or the whole bunch of the PCB administrators and selectors are idiots, doesn't mean you call the whole country stupid?

    Regarding your views about Mohammad Hafeez, you consider him as a very resourceful player? I think he was one of Inzamam's blue eyed boy, who performed a little bit better than Imran Farhat, Salman Butt and Yasir Hameed when they all faltered to score well as openers and he came in, after a gap of few years. He came in as an opener, but hardly ever gave a good start that could be considered as a knock to remember except for is highest score which is 92 runs which was a come back innings. His ODI performance in general is very abysmal, an average of paltry 18 runs. Generally he starts his innings with a few good shots and when everyone thinks that he his now settled for a big score, he gets out cheaply or as they call it "a soft dismissal", playing a shot that wasn't there. It happened many times thats why I don't rate him as a good player or a resourceful player. Yes, his bowling is tidy but when it mattered, he couldn't do much either. His fielding is good and overall he works hard but hasn't been able to rectify his mistakes especially in batting. Your point is taken to make him bat in the lower middle order but, who are you going to replace him with? The only reason he is in the team is to open the innings.

    About Mohammad Asif as the VC, take a look at this picture through the link below: http://www.cricinfo.com/db/NATIONAL/PAK/ The simpleton himself is in disbelief and laughing at the selectors by saying: "Can't believe, they made me a vice captain!"

    Fawad Alam so much has been said about this new kid on the block and a few sports writers have gone to the extent of praising him so much by asking people to 'roll out a red carpet' for him. This kinda cheap journalism often spoils the kids or put them under so much pressure to perform in big games at international levels and sometimes they fail. And when they fail for a few times, they are dropped and then they go into oblivion. I hope this doesn't happen with Fawad Alam. Remember Hasan Raza, Bazid Khan, Misbah ul Haq Niazi etc., they all are victims of praise, they play well in the domestic matches, also in the under 19's but, they were unable to cement a place in the national team when given a chance and that was due to this additional pressure from the media. Even players like Salman Butt, Imran Farhat, Yasir Hameed, Faisal Iqbal and Asim Kamal who have performed quite well against good teams, yet its hard for them to keep their place in the playing XI.

    Bazid Khan's "resourceful" father managed to get him in the team a few times, Bazid may look like his father, dress up like his father, but he cannot bat like his father. So, he must be content with his achievements with the notion that, every person reaches to his level of incompetence and, his level is restricted to the domestic circuit only, c'est ca. The recent furore from Mohammad Ilyas, who reportedly went in to the selectors room hurled abuses and threatened them for not selecting his son-in-law Imran Farhat for the Abu Dhabi tour is a classic example of "seena zori and ijaara-daari". Mohammad Ilyas is a small fish, imagine the big ones using their clout and their influence on the selectors to get their relatives or their loved ones in the national team. This "wastaa and sifarish" business must come to an end. Well, this is my "fishful thinking." When Imran Khan joined politics he gave his first interview in which he expressed his desire i.e., he wanted to wipe off the 'waderas and chaudhrys' - feudal lords - from the country. That was his fishful thinking, 'coz of that statement, he failed to win a single seat in the national elections. He even got defeated by a lady, Musarrat Shaheen the "Haseena Item Bum", which only proves my point and reflects the mentality of the people who do not wish to change their thinking and their life style and are quite content and happy to remain oppressed by being loyal to the corrupt people.

  • Abid Khan on May 8, 2007, 12:28 GMT

    Yes sir, the jokers are back at work. Just the usual shuffling of chairs, only the idiots remain at the PCB.

    Good bowler though he is, Asif is not yet a great bowler. With his doping issue hanging over his head, he should have been the last person to be appointed vice captain, at least until the issue had been resolved.

    How ridiculous can this circus get ? Perhaps they should change the name to Pakistan Clown Board.

  • Dr hai on May 8, 2007, 12:15 GMT

    I think its one of the rare good moves made by the PCB of late. Reason being that the solitary interview I heard of his (during the karachi test against india in urdu) left a lasting impression on me .. this lad is very smart and his cricketing brain is exceptional .. sure, he's only 23 and can be forgiven for making a mistake .. the nandrolone episode was an indicretion he'd like to put behind him asap and if anything he'll have learnt his lesson from it and will emerge from it more sensible .. I think he'll make an outstanding captain 2 years from now and giving him this responsibility right now bodes well for pak cricket.

  • Prad on May 8, 2007, 11:59 GMT

    Well, i would have thought Yousef Yohana would have been a better choice for vica captaincy.. shoaib malik is new in the job and he needs some experience to guide and groom him. Can Asif do it. I doubt it. As a result when Pak plays the captain and VCapt are goin to be lost as to what they should be doing. Look at Sri Lanka, they had Mahela as vice captain for a few months under marven and groomed him and gave him the odd match to captain. Now what a world class captain he is.. Money has no room in cricket PCB its the passion.. I firmly belive shoaib akthar should hang up his boots he is making a mokery of him self, i wouldnt be surprised if he is selected though.. Inzi seems to be a dictator him self like ranatunga.. but the difference is ranatunga was succesful, simply because he had the passion and wanted to get his country to greater heights.. Well, if the current trend continues i m sorry pakistan you will be better of playing french cricket in your backyard...

  • Ahsan on May 8, 2007, 11:50 GMT

    i was so surprised to hear Asif as the choice for vice captain. The shocked face quickly changed to one of joy. It is a brilliant choice, he has the same frame of mind as Shoaib Malik, the youngsters in the squad need to be led by people with talent who put 110% all the time. Have you ever seen Asif sulking around when things arent going his way? I havent at all, hes like Danish Kaneria...every ball they start new like its the first ball of the match with all their effort.

    As for the WADA/Drugs business i still think he was innocently brought into these torrid circumstances. I dont think the PCB did what was required of them, when you put a baby in a room with a tiger it wont be scared unless you tell it to be. Its the same with telling a kid not to play with fire because its dangerous. There were no prior warnings given to the players about the consequences and what they should keep away from!

    I am surprised though like many that PCB have decided to go with the tried and tested players...

    Salman Butt, Kamran Akmal, Mohammad Hafeez, Yasir Hameed, Abdul Razzaq, Mohammad Sami

    ^ The above players dont deserve to be in this squad. They are like sunday league cricketers anyone can do their job. Pakistan has a population of 150 Million or so. Im sure you can find 6 PLAYERS to replace these lot with. How much money does the PCB put into scouting missions?

  • sarfaraz from sri lanka on May 8, 2007, 11:46 GMT

    hmmm its a surprise move i wud have gone for afridi but it seems to b a good and a differen one ... better luck for de pakistan cricket team ...come on guys u have got somethin new so go on doin new

  • Hammad Fayyaz on May 8, 2007, 11:42 GMT

    I think asif appointment is an early call...as someone who is just 1-2 yrs old andur giving him a vice responsibility..this is something strange..and also Asif is onlzy in the side for his bowling...his batting skills are yet to be admired..i think Shahid Afridi can be a best choice for vice captaincy...as he has been captaining his local side for quite sometime from now and his aggression is known to everyone. I will not put Abdur Razzaq into this list as i think Razzaq is same in approach as Inzamam... For me, Asif's appointment is something strange, as his WADA case (as Kamran pointed out) is yet to be finalized. Suppose if WADA takes some action against him then again we will face embarassment that our Vice Captain is in trouble...don't know where to go then... I would go for Shahid Afridi for a Vice Captain and Shoaib Malik as a Captain

  • Muhammad Farhan Siddiqui on May 8, 2007, 11:37 GMT

    PCB seems to be moving in the right direction to groom young blood but still too early to make any comments. As far as Asif is concern no doubt that he is as genius bowler and in future he will be a big asset for Pakistan line up, but you cannot ignore the efforts made by Mohammed yousif in the year 2006. So think that Mohamed Yousif would have given the chance to be a Vice Captain.

    Lastly, the PCB must understand that they can’t simply relinquish all control to young and inexperienced players. Some responsibilities must still be maintained with the old guard who ought to guide the new leadership. Given that the captaincy role has been awarded to Malik, it only makes sense to have someone like Mohammed Yousuf or Younus Khan to be made vice captain over the duration of the next 2-3 tours.

  • Tangle Reality on May 8, 2007, 11:34 GMT

    I am not very amazed by the selection of Asif as Vice captain. We always talk about to be like Australians but we never follow what they do in-order to maintain discipline. Shane Warne is one example, and Andrew Symonds is other.

    When corrupt ministers are handling offices, how you can expect good things to come out. Very Sad.

  • Azeem on May 8, 2007, 11:31 GMT

    I would have imagined someone with a bit more international experience would make vice captain. The 'young blood' and 'out with the old' theories are all ok but what experience does Asif have in leadership roles? He has already shown extremely poor judgement with the whole doping issue, are we to believe that Asif is capable of being a master of cricket strategy and out-fox the likes of Ponting, Dravid etc? After all he is slotted to lead Pakistan in the absence of Shoaib Malik, somehow I don't see that scenario going too well. All said, I have a lot of faith in his bowling capabilities just not too sure if the added pressure will do him any good.

  • Ashaq on May 8, 2007, 11:11 GMT

    Asif as Vice is a bit bizarre.Perhaps the selectors took the word 'vice' a bit literally.The guy has been on the 'Roids' and allegedly enjoys the odd scotch and some of that high quality Moroccan tobacco,All prime time vices im sure.

    These are fine qualities if your going to become the second in command of a street gang.Will they be of benefit in a cricket team? and if we are going to choose our captain based on vices then the best qualified person should have been the brother from Rawalpindi or maybe they considered him to be over qualified.

    What next? Sarfaraz Nawaz for coach would be great,and assistant coach who doesnt lead Prayers but knows how to roll a joint,then we will be able to really challenge the supremacy of the Australians.Whilst proving how westernised and enlightened we are.

  • Ali Akram on May 8, 2007, 11:06 GMT

    Well i believe that Asif even without WADA thing is currently not a good choice of VC. He is new ot international scene, has not toured all the continents for a full tour, has been involved in injury scare and drug issue which is still looming. Imagining Asif captaing Pak now if Shoaib gets injured doesnt sound right at all, the proper choie would have been Razzaq. Now the new selection, i must say guys for God sake stop bashing Inzi, He was without doubt the Greatest Batsman Pakistan has EVER produced and still plays Test. Dont forget Inzi in multan when Bangla was about to add us as 1st test victim. Dont forget him against Aussies when Pak defeated them in test series in Pak...he made 99 with mushi, dont forget when he single handidly batted in caribean test series that wa robbed from Pakistan by West Indies Umpires (worst umpirees ever)...dont forget inzi solid performances against Brits in last home test series...dont forget he is one of the three players in the world who when make a major score 80% of time there team wins...dont forget inzi in india when he handled the batting line last time....Dont forget how he mustered the last New eland series in new zealend where he n yousaf were amazing...last but not the least The 92 cup....He is without doubt the GREATEST EVER BATSMEN...much much better then Sachin, Rahul, Lara (in my books as his major score hardly ever gets WI to victory), Vaughan, Jaywerdine...he is our Inzi.

    This is a new era and i wish Board will arrange in a way that when Inzi retires from cricket he plays his Last Test in Multan where the Sultan of Multan is given the BEST reception...Inzi the sultan of multan

  • Shuja - Dubai on May 8, 2007, 10:58 GMT

    Kamran, dude it seems our fellow Pakistani's arent following cricket as much. I guess it was pretty much expected. Anyways..back to the topic in hand. Asif as a vice captain. Ive always thought that this position doesnt mean anything in Pakistan cricket apart from the rare matches when he has to lead the final 11. So whether Asif is made the vc or not doesnt really matter. The question here shud be, Do I see him as a future captain of Pakistan team (which shud be the main criteria when deciding a vice captain).. the answer is simple and precise.. NO !!! I'm sure one of the young guys could be a far better leader than Asif -no offence he is a fine bowler. Anyways.. Sri Lanka isnt taking their crown jewels to Abu Dhabi that means pakistan shud take the most from this opportunity and try out the young guys. I say Fawad Alam to open with a right hander -if not then Salman butt to open with Yasir Hameed. Rao Ifti shud sit outside to test the new Najaf Shah. The only name I was expecting which isnt there is Abdul Rahman, I think he showed enuf class and determination to play in ODI's esp for the fact that he can hit big boundaries as well. Over n out Kamran.

  • Dr. A. Bashir on May 8, 2007, 10:48 GMT

    This decission is not a wise one. Asif is such a young and valueable player. To put him in the politics of power with in the team is very unfair.

  • Ahmed Jamal on May 8, 2007, 10:43 GMT

    CRITICISM ! CRITICISM ! CRITICISM ! ..

    can we stop this nonsense and support the team for a change. Because after all its PAKISTAN team. we always give example of Aussies and European sports, then why isit so hard for us to understand that thier biggest strength is the support that they get from thier country. if we dont give support and more importantly confidence to our player, how could we expect them to win.

    everyone of us has become such a genious of the game, that even before anything happens, we start guessing the consequences. will malik be a good captain? is asif the right choice for vice-captancy role? Is this the best possible squad? or we sould have included kaneria, shahid yousaf or someone else ?

    i mean how can any of us (including kamran) can guess, its right or wrong. we dont we leave PCB, let them do thier job , let the selectors do thier job, let the players play and let the leaders lead. and then if something goes wrong then we comment on that particular matter only. i hope you people understand what I am trying to convey over here.

    for Kamran Abbasi, its understandable, its his job to cricize, even if there is nothing to criticize on. (right kamran?). but why do we speak the language of our former players. THINK ABOUT IT GUYS !!! MAY BE ITS TIME TO WAKEUP...

  • adnan fazal on May 8, 2007, 10:37 GMT

    i think our board should learn some lessons on rules and descipline from English Cricket Board Andrew Flintoff was sacked as vice captain when he was found drunked outside on a beach in the west indies and what we are making Shoaib and Asif should not be given any position in the team till they are cleared by the WADA.If they are found guilty they should be banned, but we are making him our vice or our next captain,what example of our corrupt systems are we setting. Another thing about Asif is he is too new and young for this responsibility and there are much expectations from him which he have to prove. He still needs to prove himself as a worldclass bowler like wasim and waqar.I think his performance is still less than the expectations from him.

  • mansoor on May 8, 2007, 10:34 GMT

    this massege is to all my brothers who use this blog for column writing. my dear bros, this is not a news paper where you put your gold ideas in front of readers. who do you think is so inspired by you to read all the bullshit you put in 100 lines. do you think you are some bloody journalists. if you really are, go and put this crap in some news paper and leave this blog for good. put short massegs so that people can understand and share your thoughts. i feel so bizzare by seeing such long masseges. thats why most blogs have a maximum limit of massages. i think we should have one in this blog too.

  • Ali on May 8, 2007, 10:19 GMT

    Kamran Saab, it appears, is bent upon suggesting anything that could possibly put Afridi (the unreliable) on a position of leadership. I dont doubt Afridi's ability as a player but having a vice captain (or god forbid captain) as 'technically correct' as Afridi is not a great idea. In my humble opinion of course. True cricket i feel should be different from baseball.

  • Fareed Nasir on May 8, 2007, 10:10 GMT

    In 1953, Sir Robert Hutchinson wrote in the BMJ: "From inability to leave well alone; from too much zeal for the new and contempt for what is old; from putting knowledge before wisdom, science before art, and cleverness before common sense; from treating patients as cases; and from making cure of the disease more grievous than the endurance of the same, Good Lord, deliver us."-- I quoted this famous saying in part in one of my comments as a warning about what should be PCBs attitude after the world cup debacle. PCB has done exactly what i was afraid of. Too much contempt for past and too much zeal for new. They and pakistani cricket fans are going to suffer for this even more.

  • srivathsan on May 8, 2007, 9:57 GMT

    Mr.KAMRAN, what has happened to PCB ? Iam really surprised at the VC selection.Whether intentionally or not - He is held guilty & the appeal is still pending.What will be the face of pcb if he is held guilty & banned for a year or more ? Why they take this risk & become a laughing stock is a million dollor question.Even otherwise what is his credentials as a leader ? is there any answer ? He may be an excellent bowler but is he a good leader? I THINK THIS IS A BAD DECISION WHICH PCB MAY REGRET LATER.IN THE PRESENT CIRCUMSTANCES WHETHER ONE LIKES IT OR NOT AFRIDY IS THE RIGHT CHOICE UNTIL AN ALTERNATE IS FOUND.

  • Talha Raja on May 8, 2007, 9:50 GMT

    I think this decision is a good one but can also be good if it works. It is bad obviously because Asif has played not even ten tests and not even 25 odis. He has not captained domestic sides to a great degree either as shoaib malik usually captains Sialkot.Although giving him this responsibility could increase his confidence and motviate him. He may not be expierienced but already out of the bowlers in the squad, asif is no doubt the best.

    On khansahabs comment, I would like to critise that some of the opinions are wrongly accused. Imran nazir is an expierienced batsman who probably didnt play well in the WC, but then who did? At least he made a pride saving knock at the end. Akmal bhai has had his downs, but he shows promise. remember his series against india, where he saved pakistan in tests and odis.

    Abdul razzak, you can never rule out such a player. Maybe he has lost his bowling slightly, but he gets 1 or two wickets and goes at 4-5 per over. We need him for an extra bowler. He is also a great batsman who can play defensively and offensively.

    Mohammad sami has just started improving. This is where pakistan should keep playing him. He is young and expierienced.

    Otherwise I think most of your other points are valid.

  • Shahbaz Faheem on May 8, 2007, 9:32 GMT

    PCB has this uncanny knack of surprising everyone. The decision of appointing Asif as VC is no different either. Salman Butt would have been an ideal VC. Atleast he could attend to pre & post-match conferences in place of media-shy Shoaib Malik. anyways best of luck to Mr. Asif.

  • Salik Ahmed Shariff on May 8, 2007, 9:18 GMT

    Pakistan Cricket has always been a victim of politics. Mohammad Asifs appointment as the vice captain has definately raised a lot of eyebrows and why not, he is under WADA and not yet cleared, he has only played a bunch of handy ODI games, and expereince wise, isnt any where. Undoubtably a fantastic bowler and for someone to peak in his cricketing career at this early stage is always a phenomena. But then Asif's immature behavior has also led to his downfall. Appointing Asif as the vice captain this early in the game would have been a NO NO from anyone who follows the game closely. PCB might have different ideas, Dr Nasim Ashraf has not even given a valid reason for the selection of Asif. Razzaq, Shahid and Mohammad Yousuf would have certainly been good contenders but Asif is just a random pick and one that will not benefit Pakistan, atleast not for now.

  • inqlabi on May 8, 2007, 9:14 GMT

    Asif is real captain for future Shoaib malik is just a stopgap

  • Sri Lanka on May 8, 2007, 9:12 GMT

    excellent kamran, i rate this as one of your best articles written on thsi blog. khansahab, i agree on most of your points. but not when you say yousuf should be appointed vice cap. i dont think shoaib malik will be very comfortable having yousuf as his deputy since he is more experienced than shoaib malik. we need to make shoaib's life easy and should have appointed someone like salman butt and yes kamran needs competition from zulkarnain. i reckon kamran needs to be given a long break keep up the good work kamran i always enjoy reading this blog

  • Rahat Malik on May 8, 2007, 9:04 GMT

    This move will either turn Asif into a Imran Khan, or a Wasim Akram.

    Take whatever meaning you will from the above.... But those with a sound knowledge of Pakistani cricket will know what it foretells.

  • sahab on May 8, 2007, 8:52 GMT

    Anwar ali should have been in for Sami and Jamshed ahmed should have been instead of Rao Iftikhar.

    These two bowlers won pakistan under 19 world cup. and we need some youngsters to come in for this low profile series.

  • Ali Wazir on May 8, 2007, 8:48 GMT

    I believe that the appointment of Muhammad Asif as vice captain is an excellent one because Pakistan is yearning for new players getting responsibilty. You have a young captain so a similar vice captain isn't a bad choice. Mr.Abbasi, I'm surprised at your comments: whenever Pakistan cricket undergoes some sort of evolution, you question it and criticise it. Why can you not see our country's cricket develop?

  • Sid Harshavat on May 8, 2007, 8:43 GMT

    Sir, I am an Indian by origin but have followed South Asian cricket just like any other die hard cricket fan. I have had the honor of playing for the country as well but not in Cricket but some other sport.

    The reason I mention the above point is that when a person is selected to represent his or her country, directly they become a reflection of the think tank that gave this privilege.

    To start off with some major concerns

    a) Person sitting on top has to be a good leader. In most cases this personality doesn't need to have Cricket background but should reflect highly on other skills. Seeing failures all the way from communication, mis-trust, performance, selection and being laughed at by the world on excuses ARE good enough reasons that all of the interested country men should force his resignation.

    b) How can you put up a tainted cricketer as a leader? And that too for a fast bowler whose injury rate are the highest. Is that an investment for future or directly reflective of problems to come ahead.

    c) Finally weather it is India , Pakistan SL or BAN there need to be some readers, writers, followers that should just take upon themselves for using whatever means to get people asking questions.

    Finally I end by stating that you yourself sir (who personally I respect for what you have written earlier) should use your position to organize maybe a talk to PCB discussion and take questions and get them answered.

    This is very very critical for Pak cricket, South asian cricket and cricket in general. I really hope that people remember you not only as a writer but also as a person who tried to make a change. Whatever be the result....I am sure it would be better than what it exists today.

    Wish you and your team all the best.

  • hadi on May 8, 2007, 8:37 GMT

    I think asif is A gud choice than all .Mohammad Asif might well be a judicious choice as vice captain but it is injudicious to appoint him before the WADA business is done. A vice too early for the young man's good.

  • SALMAN ELAHI, VANCOUVER, CANADA on May 8, 2007, 8:28 GMT

    KAMRAN Listen to this: Jason Giambi, Mark McGuire, Barry Bonds, Jose Conseco all these sportsmen are professionals of the WORLD'S RICHEST Sporting League, the Major League Baseball. These "professionals" of the highest kind took performance enhancing drugs and then found themselves in positions of responsibilities as Captains, Lead Hitters, Leading Home Runs Scorers you name it. And you still think Asif is guilty. MAN, COME ON!!! Stop beating the same Bush Over and Over again. These guys (Shoaib & Asif) want to put the whole thing behind them and you are one of those people who are not letting them. Why is it so hard to make believe that WADA has NO jurisdiction over the sport of cricket , the PCB or any other relating authority just like it exercises no control over NFL, NBA or MLB. Get Over it man! And don't you get it? Asif's vice-captaincy will only strengthen his case. WADA will think twice when putting forth a charge sheet against a reigning vice-captain of an international cricket team. Like Paul McCartney once said "Let it Be", so just Let it be man, let it be.

  • Asif from Dubai on May 8, 2007, 8:24 GMT

    Asif being made a vice captain is a joke. We have already been reduced to laughing material during the world cup and now we have announced a team where the leadership is being given in the hands on unexperienced lads. Its high time, i feel Imran Khan should take over the ADHOC board and get things in place. Pakiz need a leader like Imran. Sami and Rao Iftikar have been tried n tested n failed. The same goes for Salman Butt, however i feel the guy has in him to make it. I would still say that Faisal Iqbal could hav been given a brief opportunity. Where is the youngest ever player of world cricket - Hassan Raza, last i knew that he was the captain of Pakistan A, the national team tried him so much at the wrong time and a tender age.

    We were once feared for our fast bowlers, however today we dont hav a single decent fast bowler. Batsman - none to be relied on. I feel on the basis of merit selection the President should look at the young talent on the streets of Karachi, Lahore, RawalPindi n certain other places n get these youngsters in the line up.

  • Osama Hassan on May 8, 2007, 8:09 GMT

    Why did they make him captain. Abdul Razzaq is the person who deserves it anyway what if tommorow they say asif u r not vice he would be really disapointed.He just started his career god knows wat will happen to his perfomence after being vc.He is too young for too much pressure. Razzaq Deserves it his performence is brillliantttttttttt and is senior as well.What is happening with the pakistani team.

  • Disgruntled on May 8, 2007, 7:58 GMT

    This appointment of a cheat to the role of vice-captaincy highlights all that is wrong with the pakistanian game. They bring cricket into disripute and if the sub continent were not the economical lifeblood of cricket I would say ban them till they clean up their act.

  • Imad on May 8, 2007, 7:56 GMT

    I agree with you on this Abbasi Sahib. Asif is definitely a great talent for pakistan as a bowler, not as a decision maker for the team. I think in my opinion the nod should have gone to Afridi. This would have given him greatly needed confidence and become more consious of his attitude, both on and off the field.

  • KH on May 8, 2007, 7:52 GMT

    I was taken aback by the choice.. this means that if Malik is off-field OR is not playing a match, Asif is the on-field captain - or even, lead the team out. Question is, has he displayed the responsibility and the capability of leading a team out? Worse - do Pak want a player under scrutiny of WADA leading the team out? Isnt there atleast a bit of honor attached to leading the Pak national team onto a field?

    The choice kind of has me shocked. Afridi might have been a better choice - and its about time someone shows confidence in him. With his talent, you never know - putting responsibility on him might put paid to all his in-consistencies..

    Anyways - for now, let me assume the selectors know what they are doing..

  • Salman Mahmud on May 8, 2007, 7:51 GMT

    I think Asif is a very good choice for vice captaincy as he has the ability to lead from the front and is capable of proving this nomination a right decision. He has so far shown his mental strength in all the cricket he has played. He has also shown maturity on the field and minus the nandrolone issue, seems a perfect choice for the betterment of future of Pakistani cricket.

  • Shahzad Arif on May 8, 2007, 7:42 GMT

    I totally agree with you Kamran, its way too early to appoint Asif as a vice captain. IMHO he doesn't even deserve to be considered for captaincy role ever in his career for the shame he brought to Pakistan cricket. There're other players who could do the job much better than Asif. Why not appoint someone like Salman Butt? He's young, talented and most importantly he's very well educated and comes from a good background. Asif is not a captain material at all. I really like him as a bowler but appointing him as a vice captain is something only PCB could do among all the cricketing bodies in the world!

  • Owais on May 8, 2007, 7:40 GMT

    Great Comments Khansahab, though I dont totally agree with them, by and large, they make a lot of sense. Especially those about Imran Nazir, Sami, Akmal and Asif. I am also disgusted at the composition of new team.

    Vice Captain ? why are our selectors/administrators hell bent on further reinforcing the laughing stock tag on our cricket ? You have a great bowler with 10 test matches and 25 one days behind him and being made vice captain ? someone who can break down after three tests (like in SA).

    And the biggest mistake is Kamran Akmal !!! If it was deserved, than there must be extreme lack of talent in our country when we have a wicket keeper who is arguably the worst wicketkeeper in international cricket. Sangakara, Gilly, Boucher, Dhoni and McCullum are clearly far superior, Nixon, West Indian and WK from minnows are atleast as good if not better than Akmal. I thought we could do better than that. I am now pretty sure that the this pseudo-new setup is not going to achieve anything substantially better.

  • Saqib on May 8, 2007, 7:06 GMT

    AOA

    Mr. Kamran I have been reading your Blogs for very long. I am very very disappointed to read some comments from different people who were discussing politics, racism and saying those remarks about what so ever which should not be appeared on your blog. We are all cricket lovers and we are not here to discuss any thing else. You have to read the comments before they appear on your blogs so you have the right and duty to not to publish those comments which are not related to cricket.

    ALLAH HAFIZ

  • KAMRAN SAEED on May 8, 2007, 7:04 GMT

    The selection of so many openers is really very silly.It will again lead to chopping and changing of openers.They should just pick two openers and give them a run for a long period of time in both versions of the game.I think they should play imran nazir and salman butt as openers and play yasir hameed and hafiz in middle order.Hafeez averages 18 as an opener and is not really gud enuf.Imran nazir can be groomed into a dangerous one day batsman if given good chances. Altho the selections of najaf shah and fawad alam are gud ones but once again mohammad irshad is not selected.One of the main bowlers should have bin rested and irshad should have been given a chance.He is very pacy and can be a gud alternate of shoaib in the long term if groomed properly. The pathetic selection of all is probably of kamran akmal.Its an ideal time to give a young keeper like zulqernain or sarfaraz a chance at the top level.this will once again make kamran akmal feel as if he is a lord.He should have payed the price for some horrible keeping and batting in the last one year...terrible selection this is

  • Sami on May 8, 2007, 6:49 GMT

    Khan Shab, Did Inzi change Sami? Was he a world class bowler before nd suddenly Inzi with magic stick changed him from world class to below class!

    Come on, Inzi is the best batsman Pakistan ever produced. and believe me no one can produce such talent in decades. We all forgot what he did from 1992 until now for our nation. 94 % whenever he scored a century, pakistan won. Probably this is best in world

  • ramzan on May 8, 2007, 6:49 GMT

    you are correct Kamran Sahab, it is wise...but tooooo early to take this movement...captain is fresh...so, I recomend Mohd. Yousuf or Abdul Razzak to assist him as v-cpt...let have youngsters more and more experience ...then to have responsibility

  • Zeeshan Ali Shaukat on May 8, 2007, 6:41 GMT

    Mr. Abbasi I agree with you. Asif is, no doubt, a very good player. A bowler, Pakistan was looking for. But Its really not fair to appoint him the captain, before the WADA's decision. Salman Butt is a very good choice for this post and we know that his in and out of team was bascially due to lack of synchronization with INZI and nothing else. Also the past players have reckoned a future captain in him, so why not give him a chance for the good of team and Pakistan Cricket

  • Asad Ali on May 8, 2007, 6:25 GMT

    Couldn't agree with you more Kamran. But this has been the norm in PCB (actually in Pakistan) that we don't learn from our mistakes. The last case isn't so old, that of Mushtaq Ahmed. If we keep appointing people for responsible positions who are or have been involved in controversies that haven't been cleared, we won't be able to concentrate on the sport itself. If Asif is smart enough, he should reject the offer, for now. But I guess, this won't happen.

  • mohammed akram khan on May 8, 2007, 6:22 GMT

    i thought the decision to make Asif as vice captain is bluder that PCB has made. In a team where there is no unity the PCB has invited more trouble in team my making one of the youngster as vice captain. I though Afridi was the best option, because of his aggresiveness on field and it would also be a respect for one of the senior member of the team. Now no one can stop Pakistan from losing to lesser competetive teams. All the best Pakistan

  • H.Malik on May 8, 2007, 6:20 GMT

    Dear Kamran , I tend to agree with your last paragrahp , if the PCB had any intentions of such move , they must have waited for teh WADA review to be over before making such a decsion . I have seen him play and to bowl his heart out for the team . If this was his reward , then it has come to him with a pinch of salt at this early stage of his career . In my humble opinion , the CAP & VCAP of the team should and must have been the two guys with NOT A HINT OF Questionable behaviour either by intent ( SM case of throwing a 20/20 match by intent ) or by ignorance ( Asif's stated claim of not knowing what he was taking as a medicine !) Alas , it is so true , one of the writer has mentioned " By hook or crook , show your intent of being a corrupt Pakistani and you will gain power and all the trapping of a celebirty . Both the choices are with good intentions " to invest in young talent" but in wronged people . SM should never have to be considered any responsible job , ASIf should not have been cosidered too as long as WADA review hangs on his head , SM will be watched for as logn as it takes for the ICC anticorruption unit where ever the team and he goes , rest assured for this and ASIF carrer may be already been hanged out now for the destruction even before it surged ahead. He would be picked up in every major tournament and targeted as " under the cover of randon dope testing without any other considerations !" , PCB cronies could not have done better than this to put these promising youngerter's career in general and their lively hood in particular , on the line and knwoingly done so ... May God help ASIF & SM from now on ....

  • Aamir Javed on May 8, 2007, 6:19 GMT

    I also tink that its too early to appoint him as Vice Captain not because of WADA threat but only because it is a pressue job and this can also effect his performance it can take him to the heights of glory but it can also come out his failure to retain his position in the team

  • Nabil - Australia on May 8, 2007, 6:17 GMT

    Pakistan Cricket is definately moving in the right direction. Moving in the right direction does not mean that there are drastic changes to the team. We need a balanced and unbiased approach to dealing with our National Team. The current team announced has a good balance of youth and experience. I am sure if the team spirit is good, this team can rise to the tough challenges which are presented to them. Lets all wich the team well and show our support to the young leaders.

  • Umair from San Francisco, CA on May 8, 2007, 6:13 GMT

    Simply put...a very stupid decision. First he (Asif) got caught using drugs for which he claimed ignorance...how can you make an ignorant idiot a vice captain. I am now fully convinced that PCB is a bunch of loonies. We should privatize PCB and fire all these brainless, logic challenged, common sense deprived old farts. These are the folks who play a much bigger part in ultimately destroying the future of Pakistan's talented youth. Asif is a great bowler and I really enjoying seeing him bowl. Just let him concentrate on his bowling. He could be a good candidate couple of three years down the road after he gain a little more experience with both bowling and public speaking...not now !!!! You (PCB) needs to cultivate Asif and give him enuf training and guidence to nudge him in the right direction (leadership role - capt or vc). PCB dont challenge God's patience....please try to help yourself time for God helps those who help themselves.

  • Adnan Sami on May 8, 2007, 6:10 GMT

    I think time has come to invest in Young and geniune players not on alrounders. We should make bold moves by dropping razzaq,afridi,kamran akmal,salman butt,hafeez and bring in the new players. Abudhabhi series is a no bearing series and even Srilanka is giving rest to its senior players and we should give chance to our academy players instead of sending tried and tested players again. I agree with Khan Saheb. Selecting Kamran Akmal again is shock to me

  • Sobaan on May 8, 2007, 5:57 GMT

    Good Move?????? for God's sake it can be anything but a good move to make Asif the subordinate of Shoaib Malik. Everybody is praising the decision of making two young players captain and vice-captain by relating to the examples of Greame Smith(SA) and Flemming(New Zealand). Can any body point out a single simalarity between Malik and Smith? Will Malik go out and chase down or support in chasing a mamoth score of over 400. It is not even possible in "his" wildest dreams. We all know he has not got the edge to be a captain. Secondly, coming to the appointment of Asif, the so called McGrath of wherever has never been tested under pressure (except perhaps after taking nandrolone). The guy appears to very week in handling stresses (specially from media) as can be seen from few of his media appearances (TV Shows and interviews). It is the begining of his end. Now, let me tell you the scenario going on in PCB. Those guys wake up in the morning deciding to give a shock to the nation. Draw up a list of very improbable people for a job, float that idea in media which runs "A source told on the condition of anonymity Shoaib Malik will be the captain". Then they wait for a week, read the articles and comments of the people to see what they think and then decide on the popular consensus. How can I prove myself correct? here is the prove. (list of player) Afridi: PCB says "Nah! alot of people thinking hes gonna be the captain... so he cant" Razzak: PCB says "Hes senior, looks intelligent, people can guess that too. So not possible". Imran Nazir and Hafeez: PCB says"Yes they can be but wait a minute Salman butt will be more shocking. Hes not in the team and cant certainly make it. So lets float his name". Shoaib Malik: PCB says "Hes a good candidate. Cant justify his selection all along. Cannot bowl properly bcoz of kinky action. Pathetic technique. People wont guess that." And those were the two names floated. Weeks later, they decided it will be Shoaib Malik.

    Then 10 days later, an official goes to naseem ashraf,"Sir! there has been a problem with the captaincy selection". Naseem Ashraf,"What's that?" official "Shoaib Akther and Asif were not considered. They could have been shocking nominations as well. Both of them are not in the team. People cud not have imagined them as well." Naseem Ashraf, "Damn!!! lets see wht we can do. Shoaib Akhter can be guessed. Make Asif vice-captain." official,"Sir you are a genius. how easily u solved this problem. U are rightly the chairman. Nobody can in his dreams think of namin Asif the vice captain. Great Sir!!!!" I can imagine that official will have been Saleem Altaf!!! may Allah bless us!

  • tinker on May 8, 2007, 5:50 GMT

    What on earth is going on in pakistan?

    They reward steriod users with the vice captaincy?

    They are spitting on the sporting world with their actions.

  • Rasta on May 8, 2007, 5:47 GMT

    Asif is super bowler. If he can keep himself mentally and physically fit, he could be in same league as Waqar or even Akram when he retires. The PCB is probably the wrost run cricket boards which takes a sadist pleasure in ruining careers. Hopefully Asif will not fall prey to the PCB.

    As far as vice captaincy is concerned,, I feel Kamran Akmal is a much better choice.

  • sym on May 8, 2007, 5:41 GMT

    Salaam,

    I wanna ask why is razzaq in the team, he bowls some lollipops, can't bat against quality bowling an has poor fielding to backup(why doesn't somebody tell him that what they want prominently from him is to bowl & he will not b picked up until he gets back is bowling rythm & pace). This team is never goin to improve if they have him in the playin 11. To me even the captain's choice of shoib mailik is sickening, he doesn't have a place in the test squad, just for d sake of havin a young captain doesn't mean pick up some x,y or z(an make sure he is not the fundamentalist type) an make him the captain. Also is there nobdy in d country to replace the wicketkeeper. I'm sorry if my comments hurt sombdy, btw i am not from this country, but i hav always watched ur team wid great passion. I think mohd yousuf should hav been made the capt in d first place instead of inzi(he was never captaincy material), i think even now to me he is d best choice until a youngster shows some consistency in both versions of d game.

    Wassalam

  • faizullah khawaja on May 8, 2007, 5:33 GMT

    I think its fine to appoint asif as vc. We must move on from the nandralone affair. Much bigger stars have done it and are still heroes internationally. My only regret is that they have not inducted enough new young talent. A new keeper and shahid yousuf would have been good in place of hafeez and yasir.how many openers do we need .

  • Zain Kazmi on May 8, 2007, 5:32 GMT

    Atlast we have got some thing on this blog to talk about...! succesfull are those whose lears from their mistakes and dont tend to do it agian , when it comes to PCB its opposite..!

    Really it seems like a bunch of idiots.. having no know how of cricket ,, now appointing asid as vc i dont think it will be a good move not only due to wada case but also due to the fact that he is new to international scene and requires more time to establish his authrity on the field esp on pakistani players,, in which out of 11 6 were alredy announced their aim to be the nxt captain....

    Javed A Khan, here, raised a good point that problem doesn't solved by calling him sheikhupura Mcgrath, problem, still lies over his power and authority to lead esp in the absence of shaoib malik.

    let me tell u one more thing as well with guarantee that by maiking him the captain he will fade and decline( due to the heavy resp) not prosper . I endorse Javed bhai's comment that we might loose him as a bowler as well soon..!

  • Zuhair on May 8, 2007, 5:23 GMT

    Well well well……..The only reason I find they have opted for Asif as the vice captain, is that he is the only player besides Yousuf, who walks in to any Pakistani side any day automatically. Its not that Asif is some captaincy or vice captaincy material. Now once PCB has decided not to go with Yousuf, Asif was the only other choice. Shoaib Akhatr’s name does come into mind and he of course is the second best player in our side (after Yousuf), but he doesn’t play enough matches to hold a vital position. Whereas, Asif might prove fitter.

    Mohammad Hafeez?????????? Why on earth is he in the squad? What has he done off late or ever in his career? An opener who averages 18 with the bat!!! Isn’t it a shameful average? People say that records don’t always speak the truth. Alrite!! Lets move ahead….had he been a dasher and a pinch hitter, we might have understood the reason for his average. But his strike rate is an awful 58!!!! Yes 58 it is!!! He averages 33 with the ball…which is just average!!! He is economical, yes!!! But he is not that good a bowler to be played, sacrificing the opening slot!!! Abdul Rehman can very well do the spin job with more wickets…whereas Malik and Afridi are there to do their jobs!!! Indeed HAFEEZ is the technically MOST WRONG player in the Pakistan squad!!! Almost every time, we see our side struggling because he is usually in the pavilion in the first 4 overs. I find no single reason for him to be in the side.

    Nazir, Hameed and Butt all justify themselves!! With the later two my top pick. Hameed is the most correct opener available to Pakistan these days. Where Butt has immense talent!! I feel Hameed should be a regular, whereas we can afford to shuffle Imran Nazir and Salman Butt.

    Yousuf at number 4!!! No debate

    Number 5!!!! We missed a trick!!! We should have selected an established mid order batsman!!! Misbah or Hasan could have been the choices. Malik is too early for number 5!!!

    Razzaq 6!!! I cant understand why people criticize him so much. He is quite a decnt all rounder and a very sensible batsman. He has to be in the team anyhow.

    Afridi 7

    Akmal 8

    Rehman 9

    Rao 10

    Asif 11

  • Robert on May 8, 2007, 5:23 GMT

    Well... I think the idea is a good one. And lets get the issue over with as quickly as possible. It's a problem with Pakistan cricket. Simple fact is they need the structure. For some reason the team needs to know who is in charge should anything happen for any reason. I doubt very much if there was no vice captain and the captain left the field there wouldn't be chaos on the pitch.

    All of that said I think with the dopping charge still hanging over Asif's head this is a poor decision. But lets hope that this adds stability to a very unsure side.

  • aftab ahmad on May 8, 2007, 5:22 GMT

    I do not agree with you. ICC, and now WADA, is clearly biased against PCB. No one knows what happened in the hearing of Shane Warne and whether the punishment given to him was consistent with his violations. ICC realized this 4 years later when Shoaib and Asif were apprehended and then relieved. And you want PCB to wait for WADA before deciding who would be the best VC for its team. Kamran, get out of slave mentality. You can do something about WADA's adverse decision, including sacking Asif if needed, but you can't let WADA decide things for PCB.

  • Talha Ahmed on May 8, 2007, 5:18 GMT

    The vice captain needed to be someone who was performing well and could make to both, the test and the one day sides, hence Afridi is ruled out. It couldnt be Younis because he had already rejected the idea. It couldnt be Yousuf because he was already superseeded by Shoaib. It couldnt be Akhtar because he is never fit and available. It couldnt be Razzaq because his performance charts are falling all the time. It couldnt be Akmal because its already a surprise he made it to the side at all. Still if we think Asif was not the best choice, we should try to accept it because the decision has been made and If they have made this decision they should stick with it for a considerable amount of time.

    I was thinking that Hasan Raza could make it to the team this time but he was pushed out by Fawad Alam who was quite a sensation at the Twenty20 and the domestic season this year. So fair enough!

    Salman Butt is back, Hafeez and Nazir are still there - looking at the past records we have another couple of top order disasters in the offing - AGAIN!

    Like with any young side with a new-young captain having an uncapped left arm pacer to work with, one cannot deny any fantastic possibilities but on the outlook I have to admit that the side looks bland and tasteless.

  • Usman on May 8, 2007, 5:17 GMT

    please stop calling mc grath of sheikhupura, he is no mc grath, he is mohammad asif... let him have his identity yaar...bare ho jao chacha!!!

  • Amanzeb Khan on May 8, 2007, 5:15 GMT

    I find the decision to appoint Asif as vice captain a mind boggling one. With no previous captaincy credentials, Asif is still relatively unknown with respect to his personality. He is so young in his career that we have not seen him fight through a slump in form, or withstand the pressures of international cricket day in day out. He is an unknown commodity. I think the decision was taken to avoid placing pressure on Shoaib Malik. Afridi, Yousuf of Salman Butt are more experienced and have all led before. So appointing any one of them may have given Shaoib the feeling that they are breathing down his neck.

  • Imran on May 8, 2007, 5:14 GMT

    I beleive Shahid Afridi would have been the best choice for Vice Captaincy (if not captaincy), since he is currently the most experienced player in the team. His batting may be erratice at times, but he is a world class one day bowler. And if the board was looking to make a bold move, they should have gone will the aggressive choice. Plus Shahid Afridi has a good criketing brain (you can tell by the way he mixes his deliveries when bowling), and he very rarely gets injured. And in the recent 20-20 tournament in Pakistan, he led his team (Karachi) to the finals with great leadership, although he was unable to play in the finals. And maybe if given the responsibility of vice captaincy, he would bat more intelligently than he currently does. So, i beleive at this stage in Pakistani cricket, it would have been a great decision.

  • Afzaal Khan on May 8, 2007, 5:10 GMT

    lol I was waiting for Inzi bashing and Khansahab didn't disappoint me at all. So lemme get this straight, Inzi retires from ODI expressed that he wana play one more yr of test(which he deserves), is not a captain, most probably won't even be in test matches Yet Khansahab conclude that Inzi is controlling the selection process, while he conviniently forgets that Sami (which I think should be dumped) is solely still in cause of Imran Khan's backing. I think Asif as vice captain is a stupid choice, I would have dumped all the openers mentioned including Imran Nazir and salman Butt as both have been given ample chances and gone with a new opening pair and brng in new bolwers to get rid of Sami, Rao and Rana. But I still fail to see how Inzi selected this team?:) care to elaborate?:)

  • Hussain Khan on May 8, 2007, 5:06 GMT

    The stupitidy of PCB knows no bounds. How can anyone justify selection of the likes of Razzak who has not performed well over the past year or more, Afridi is a very over rated player who performs well one in every 50 games. I do not know what Afridi's batting average is, but I would imagine its very low. Does the PCB look at consistancy of performance or as I suspect they are picked for performances very long time ago. Pakistan cricket has a long long way to go before they will be able to chalange Australia

  • faraz on May 8, 2007, 5:01 GMT

    I agree with u Mr. Kamran.I also think its a bit too early forasif to be a vice-captain.Although we have no doubt on his abilities but the personality or character of a captain and vice captain should be unquestionable and asif has imposed a big question mark on himself on that drug issue.I also believes that if PCB has appointed a young captain which is certainly a good move,its deputy should be a senior so that the seniors should have their view in team management.I would also like to see afridi as a vice captain.. Finally Mr.Kamran you are really doing a good job by posting the views of young generation so atleast we can say what we think.Keep up the good work.

  • Faraz - The first Faraz on all of Kamran's blogs anywhere on May 8, 2007, 4:57 GMT

    Pain-doo move indeed Javed (Montreal); I mean whats the point of showering your message with all this diplomacy Mr. Abassi? After such a schlaking of sorts in this past half-year or so...these mother******s are still playing the old digga games. Be it salahuddin lalloo or that 1987 world cup zero salim jaffer, we are back to square one. All of this yields to the fact that my proposed solution of a bloody civil war to rid the digga community of this thugism is the only way to get life back to normal.

    I am so disgusted I mean, no doubt these are our people- these people from punjab...but there is a limit to hypocrisy and double standards and these "haramis" need to be ousted to restore some sort of balance and sanity of decision making.

    What nonsense, both captain and vice captain from sheikupura...what is this ?? sheikhupura eleven ?!?

  • DannY on May 8, 2007, 4:57 GMT

    I think its a bad move considering that Asif would not be able to focus on his bowling as much as he would have been able to if he wasn't selected as the vice-captain. I thought Razzak deserved to be the vice-captain. Also Khansahab, I don't get your hate for Abdul Razzaq at all. Why are you bashing the guy who always gave 200% to our cricket team ? i agree that he had injury problems over the past few months but beside that your argument is not valid.

  • saad shakir on May 8, 2007, 4:50 GMT

    its good to see that pcb is trusting on the younger players now...appointing shoab malik a the captain was probably the best thing they did this whole year...but i think they still dont knw that a new and young 15 man squad wont win them matches....the senior players are there for a reason...after inzamams retirment...a lot rests on m. yousufs shoulders...he alone with one or two new comers cant cover up that gap....if the vice captaincy was given to mohammad yousuf...he wud have gained confidence..that the board trusts him...honestly he was never given a perfect chacne to captain the side...although his nature shows he mite not be that good of a captain...but it wudve helped shoaib malik....and perhaps wud have had the team in control...with these 2 young guns takin over captaincy and vice captaincy pakistan will have to struggle there way to the top again...things wont be easy in the beg.

  • Mohammed Singh on May 8, 2007, 4:36 GMT

    So Asif made vice captain? Do you think since Afridi wanted to get it he should have done drugs to? How can you give vice to a guy who cheated with drugs in the same year. Moronic and degrading to sport.

  • Faridoon on May 8, 2007, 4:35 GMT

    What Pakistan would have given to have M. Asif in the line-up on that fateful green-top against Ireland? Who's fault is it that he wasn't there, his own of course. No one's buying the injury story. Akhtar and Asif stayed away because they knew they would be targetted for drug tests during the WC.

    It was a strange choice of vice captain. I agree that youth is the order of the day but were there really no other choices? Akmal I thought might deserve a chance as vice-captian. So what if his keeping is erratic, so is the new captain's batting. Good leaders don't necessarily have to be good performers as well. On the contrary, an average player could become better given more responsibility.

    Good luck to the lads for Abu Dhabi. I hope they're prepared for some hot weather and dusty conditions.

  • Farhan on May 8, 2007, 4:35 GMT

    Am I the only person who thinks that Yasir Hameed deserved a spot in world cup playing squad and that he is an excellent captaincy prospect??

  • Haroon Rao on May 8, 2007, 4:33 GMT

    I believe Muhammad Asif as very right choice. He is young, energetic, very active in the field, and every time ready to give his 100%. Don't forget his stand alone performance at tour of South Africa, he was only hope for spectators throughout the series!

  • Salman Riaz on May 8, 2007, 4:32 GMT

    When you make a worker an administrater you loose the worker and gain a politician. I am now worried that after shoaib malik likely failure Asif will be made captain and whenever he will fail he will be kicked out. Even if he is not kicked out he will become part of the history of pakistani cricket poolitics. I hope he doesnot turn out some body like Waseem Akram though the company he keeps (Shoiab akthar and some showBiz Starlets)is not very promising.

    Salman

  • waqas a. on May 8, 2007, 4:30 GMT

    he's just establishing himself as a bowler because he is still unexperienced. whats the point of vice-captaincy? give it to M. Yousuf who deserves it and who's more mature.

  • Shahid J on May 8, 2007, 4:29 GMT

    Considering the performance and a stable postion in the team Asif seems to be the only choice left for the Board. Other than this reason I find it hard to justify the selection for the vice captain job. I would call it a desperate move rahter than a bold one.

  • qaiser on May 8, 2007, 4:24 GMT

    Hey everybody take drugs ... it will make you vice captain............just shameful

  • Sameer on May 8, 2007, 3:45 GMT

    Asif -- the vice captain ? Wrong message sent to the world. This lad is not even cleared of the doping scandal and continues to remain on the edges. And he s being made vice captain ? I feel thats going to be a bit tricky for Pakistan. Asif s place is not even fixed, thanks to his silly ignorance about the n-thing. He as a bowler would certainly add teeth to the weak Pakistan attack.

    I think first Asif should first consolidate his place in the team devoid of injuries and doping scandals and then he be made the vice captain, other wise this vice captain thing would be another cat and mouse game, as it is in India right now , where there is no vice captain to India for the current tour of Bangladesh....

    Its also silly to find Kamran Akmal being persisted in the team despite his long list of failures dating back since England tour.

    And what are 16 players doing in the team for 3 game series ? Lot of them would be tourists. But the selectors have done right thing by not opting for complete overhaul as they did in 2003.

  • Sameer A Malik, Michigan, USA on May 8, 2007, 3:42 GMT

    What a pathetic decision, i think it came out through a Lucky Draw. The most laid back guy in the team whose career is confined with controversies due to that Drugs Issue, there will always be a question mark in front of him whenever and where ever he leads the Pakistan team. On top of that i saw him on tv in couple of interviews, he cant even speak Urdu properly how will he speak in front of whole world and what will he portray? I am not against his bowling, i mean he is a wonderful bowler and asset for the team but too innocent for some management role, i feel like we are on the edge of completely losing him. Although he is from the same District where i belong, but i am never in favor of him being appointed in a management role, at least not for now unless or until he is cleared from the WADA and shows some presentation, communication and leading skills. Lets see what happens...........

  • EAMIRAN on May 8, 2007, 3:36 GMT

    At the moment there are few legitimate candidates for captaincy and/or vice captaincy. Since we have already selected a captain who cannot cement his place as either a batsmen or a bowler, why should Asif not be handed over the vice captaincy? He is diligent, hard working, appears to have a good cricketing brain, and most importantly can win a match. The last factor is critical as Pakistan of late has had a paucity of real talent. This match winning ability will, at the very least, keep the others "honest". Is he an ideal VC? Probably not. He is injury prone as most of our bowlers are, and is sure to miss matches and maybe even the odd series here and there. He has also done himself no favours in the eyes of a self-righteous world, and a monitoring organization, by taking illegal substances.

    What he did was illegal (rightly or wrongly - that is another debate, albeit one which took place several months ago) but it is certainly not immoral and it is definitely not cheating. Who is he cheating - Batsmen, bowlers, the opposition team, or his own team mates? If so why and how? He is not express by any stretch of the imagination, so does the drug make him bowl a better outswinger? The answer is no. Steroids were taken in order to recover from a series of injuries. The shelf life of a fast bowler is the shortest of all in cricket. To be injured for a year or two could mean 1/4th of your career is over, that is if you are good.

    WADA should do the sensible thing and that is allow recovering athletes the freedom to decide the means and methods (under medical supervision ofcourse) best suited to heal their injuries. Athletes may not be allowed to play till the drug is out of their system but at least the stigma of being branded cheats by the media and its mindless couch potato patrons is spared upon these hardworking individuals. Ofcourse, that is not going to happen, in which event the PCB should tell WADA to "stick it where the sun don't shine".

    Who are the other possible Phd candidates? Razzak, Afridi, Yousuf? I think not. Butt? Not even in the regular XI. Gul? Tireless work-horse; however has shown little to no inclination that he possesses any leadership qualities. Also injury prone. Kaneria? Perhaps, but is not a regular in ODI's and maybe talks too much (and delivers little)for his own good. Our chirpy butterfingered keeper? No.

    Ultimately the VC is not going to affect the outcome of the results, so maybe the whole topic was moot. The team still has huge gaps to fill. The 1st 3 batting positions are hugely suspect, the team lacks an out and out strike bowler ala Shoaib A.,butterfingers has got to be dropped, as do the bits and pieces players (Afridi, Razzak, and the captain). On second thought our "can't bat, can't bowl, can field" captain may be canny enough to overcome his massive shortcomings. Time will tell.

    Finally, khansahab, on team selection you are somewhat correct when you write the selection commitee lacks foresight - mediocrity begets mediocrity; however I must say that I doubt whether Inzi or for that matter the ghost of Kardar had anything to do with the committees final selection.

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on May 8, 2007, 2:33 GMT

    A patient came to Hakeem Luqman complaining of stomach ache and, he asked the man what he ate? The man replied, burnt bread. Luqman gave him some medication for his eyes. Upon asking why he is not treating him for his stomach ache, instead giving him some medication for his eyes? Luqman replied, if his eyes were OK he wouldn't have had burnt bread. Similarly, why should we blame Mohammad Asif for his appointment as a VC? Blame the blind men of the PCB.

    The PCB is such a bunch of morons and idiots that no matter what you say thats enough to describe them. Reportedly the current selection committee has more powers than the previous one, but one never knows the true story and who is behind them and who has more say than the committee itself? Saleem Altaf until recently was the CEO, perhaps he is still holding some position there. Actually he does not deserve to be anywhere near the PCB office, not even near the chowkidar of the PCB. After the age of sixty people get "Sathiya-oed," (bonkers) in his case he has proved that its not just an expression but, it is a fact and a reality. Those who have not seen this heated debate between Saleem Altaf and Waqar Younis (which is in three parts, each part almost 30 minutes long) must see this, here is the link:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ve7gYK-nrQ (part one) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3EEK5hnbQg&mode=related&search= (part 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svvcaHZcwQM&mode=related&search= (part 3)

    Just look at the way this Sucker Altaf was defending Naseem Ashraf and kept on beating around the bush and not coming to the point. Much as I hate politics and bureaucracy I wonder why we need to see it so often in cricket? How long do we need to put up with these suckers? This same guy Salahuddin, who is now the chief selector, used to write pages and pages of criticism full of venom against the PCB. Now he has been bought and sold a dozen times by the same PCB.

  • Wasim USA on May 8, 2007, 2:23 GMT

    Khansaab, well said about Imran Nazir. Looks like he has a very big pava.

  • Numaan on May 8, 2007, 0:54 GMT

    As I has said in your previous blog Asif was clearly the outstanding candidate for the vice captaincy. It is also very pleasing for the Board to recognise we need variety in our bowling attack so it is very welcome that we see a left handed bowler introduced, however will he actually play (Niazi comes to mind!) . Although it is very disappointing the selectors have gone again with players that have failed consistantly such as Afridi, Sami and Akaml. It is high time the selection commitee sent a message to all Pakistani cricketers that talent is not enough we require consistant preformers willing to work hard.

  • calgary highlander on May 8, 2007, 0:30 GMT

    Kamran, i know this is off topic, and i don't mean to jack your thread but Shoabi saying he wants to " Invest time in himself " is just full of... well ya know. This guy will play the whole 20/20 cup, i assure you, but the second we play a test match he's gonna break down like a european car.

    Now getting back on topic. I think Asif is fine selection. He's... well... ok, i'll admit it, he's an absolute idiot. The kid is a fantastic bowler but he lacks common sense (He hung around with Akthar. Now look what has happened) I'm not worried about pressure getting to him, i just think that he is not a leader.

    As for the selection, this is clearly a very deperate move by the PCB. This is also a move by the PCB which will FAIL. WHERE THE HECK IS RANA. ok i was just joking, but there is too much youth. They lack the experience. But since this series doesn't mean jack, it is totaly ok to experiment.

    Good luck Pakistan for i reamin an optimistic and hopeful Pakistani.

  • Khurram Mughal on May 8, 2007, 0:04 GMT

    Wow cant say i didnt see this comming, but seems like PCB is looking for a quiet people to lead the team so that PCB won have to deal with much it just seems like all hope is gone but i want o see how this pans-out.

  • khansahab on May 7, 2007, 23:01 GMT

    It seems to me that the previous thread will not be updated reasonably soon enough, so I guess I will repost the following comment:

    My regret over the new squad and vice-captain knows no bounds. It seems that this selection committee is being controlled by Inzi and that the committee is merely a “dummy” committee. Or else they are very stupid and lack foresight.

    I worry about Pakistan’s image profusely. What is the point of making Asif VC when he may well be banned as a result of the WADA appeal? The world is going to laugh thinking that another cheat is being touted as a future captain of Pakistan. Fast bowlers are injury-prone (especially in Pakistan) and I am sure many eye brows will be raised over Asif’s appointment. He is a world class bowler and that much is accepted but appointing him as VC is a different matter altogether. Mohammad Yousuf was the ideal choice for vice captaincy. Maybe Asif is the VC only until the Twenty20 Cup. After that the selectors can see whether Butt, Hafeez or Alam anyone else can be promoted.

    The new 15 man squad is a laughable affair:

    Salman Butt: Why do we want to give another life to an already failed experiment? He is an educated cricketer but he is absolutely inconsistent. He has only been given a brief break; it is imprudent to believe he would have changed his game so much so as to deserve another chance. He needs to be “rested” for another two years at least so he can improve his temperament and skill.

    Imran Nazir: The most disappointing selection. Scored one fifty vs South Africa (and in the process was given one lifeline) and then did not click. Did not score when it mattered, in the WC. Scored substantially against a minnow side and was dropped 4 times to easy catches and survived a very good LBW shout, when he was clearly plumb. So all I can say is that if Pakistan is playing Zimbabwe or Bermuda, Nazir should be selected as opener. Is already an “established failed opener” in international cricket.

    Kamran Akmal: This selection defies belief. Why were Moin and Rashid excellent wicketkeeping batsmen? Because there was competition. With Akmal’s selection it is proven that Inzi is still controlling the selection process and that Akmal can have a free ride. They need to create competition between “Akmal and Zulqernain/Sarfraz”, not between “Zulqernain and Sarfraz”. Zulqernain was the best choice owing to his domestic experience.

    Abdul Razzaq: This guy signifies why Pakistan still is a struggling country. Cant ball, cant bat, cant field. Too weak and lethargic. Has only taken wickets of tailenders in the past two years and his batting is worsening as he is getting older. The biggest laughing stock in the country.

    Mohammad Sami: Talented? Yes. Improving? Yes. Deserves a place on merit? No. (I.e. still not good enough) Forget the question about why Anwar Ali or Sajid Shah were not included in the 39 probables. Why not give a chance to Abdul Rauf or Mohammad Irshad instead? Inzi did intervene in Sami’s bowling to an extent (told him to slacken his pace and shorten his run-up) and prior to Inzi’s captaincy Sami was a world class bowler. I think he will improve but I still believe there are better bowlers than him.

    Players to watch out for: Fawad Alam: Should have been included in WC squad but Wasim Bari thought otherwise. The future of Pakistan cricket but will he be kept in the side consistently or will he face the same fate as Asim Kamal?

    Najaf Shah: Thank God he was selected over Khalil. Experienced player and hopefully will perform accordingly.

    Mohammad Hafeez: Very resourceful player if used in middle order or lower middle order. If he is made to open he will fail again. Recently he has transformed into a world class off spin bowler in ODI’s. Trust me only in a stupid country like Pakistan we can keep using him as opener and keep including Razzaq in the squad.

    Finally a message to Ashaq: Mate, I’m really impressed that you’ve refrained from bashing me lately and also have not been bitter to Javed A Khan. I appreciate your recent attitude. Keep up the good work!

  • AMMD on May 7, 2007, 22:07 GMT

    These are the instances when one truly has to question the PCB's decision making capabilities. Don’t get me wrong, I think we can all agree that Asif is a great talent and will more than likely go on to become a superstar. It is not his talent that is in question but rather his ability to fill the role of vice captain. The nandrolone scandal in itself is only the part of the problem; the underlying factors that lead to his involvement in the scandal are what concern me the most.

    Throughout the investigation, Asif was painted as a "simpleton kid" who didn't know any better. If this indeed is true, then it must be understood that he may not be suitable for leadership in the Pak team, an institution known for adherence to social hierarchy. One must also consider the fact that for a kid coming from such a humble background, it takes a long time to adjust to the high profile life and the horrendous amounts of stress that comes with it. By burdening him with leadership so early on, the PCB is only making him further susceptible to stress related exhaustion. Last year Inzamam’s leadership skills were brought into question after he lost his wicket in a couple of bizarre incidences and mismanaged the England test that ended in a forefit. In all the cases it was evident that his level of understanding when it comes to the nuances of the rules and regulations was questionable; this was attributed to Inzy himself being a “simpleton.” PCB has to take lessons from history if it is to truly improve its own record of mismanagement.

    The second thing that must be taken into consideration is the fact that extremely talented fast bowlers who start their careers off with a bang sometimes end up taking a plunge into really murky waters when their wickets suddenly dry up. This is probably due to the fact that the batsmen have had the opportunity to study them and also that these bowlers albeit highly successful in bagging wickets, are still green behind the ears and don’t have the experience and expertise to counter the batsmen right away. Sami and Pathan are two examples. There is no guarantee that Asif is immune to such a phenomenon. If by chance this is to happen, then he must be given the freedom to do some introspection and modify his game. As a vice captain, he will not be afforded this liberty.

    Lastly, the PCB must understand that they can’t simply relinquish all control to young and inexperienced players. Some responsibilities must still be maintained with the old guard who ought to guide the new leadership. Given that the captaincy role has been awarded to Malik, it only makes sense to have someone like Mohammed Yousuf or Abdur Razzaq to be made vice captain over the duration of the next 2-3 tours.

    The PCB has to make sure that it doesn’t jump into the “restructuring” frenzy and make poor decisions which will harm the long term future of the team; making Asif vice captain so soon may be one such move.

  • Ali on May 7, 2007, 21:12 GMT

    he is too new to be vice captain apart from WADA thing... when there is a young captain, the vice captain should be an experienced player ... Afridi should have been concidered for that .

  • anees on May 7, 2007, 20:37 GMT

    you cant honestly think the pcb will change its ways do you? it is run by a bunch of idiots who bend over for musharaff at his will. dont expect pakistani cricket to move forward while these idiots are still here

  • Zaheer on May 7, 2007, 20:27 GMT

    A very wise move although i still regard Naseem Ashraf to be a complete waste of time. Wholesale changes would have made no difference anyway and if we had Asif available in the WC we have have had a win or 2 in the bag. He is not McGrath and to get to that status he will need to prove his worth but he certainly is a very talented young man and I wish him all the best and may he be a better choice than Mr Akhtar who like Naseem is a complete Jack.

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on May 7, 2007, 19:39 GMT

    So the blog is alive, kicking and shl**sing again and that too with a vice which is malice. Whatever the reality may be about his doping issue, whatever the outcome of that inquiry may be, but Mohammad Asif is not the material for the role of a leader. Making him a vice captain so soon is not a bold move Mr. Kamran Abbassi, imo its very much a pain-doo move. It was obvious that the PCB would do that and they did not disappoint us, at least not me. The guy has a possible face-off with WADA and I wonder if he has to lead the team in the absence of the prince of injury prone Malik, can he do any yada yada? I doubt it. Calling him a Sheikhupura McGrath or even a Rahmat ullah Alai is not going to solve the Pakistani leadership problems.

    The point in dispute here is not about his bowling, he is a very, very good bowler. I haven't seen many who can bowl with such accuracy and consistently for such long spells, besides he also has the ability to take wickets, which makes him rare. His conversion rate is also very good but, lets not talk about his bowling which is undisputed here. The point is about his personality which appears very weak and meek and it is very obvious, unless someone is a real pay-D-- and cannot see that.

    Its a known fact that he got in to the trouble of doping because of Shoaib Akhtar's influence, or whoever for that matter. If a person can be pushed or convinced so easily and yet he can call himself an innocent? OK, you may accept him for once, thats fair enough. But, this is another issue where decision making is the key to success and what kinda knowledge and experience he has in this field? I won't pin up any hopes that Mohammad Asif would contribute anything significant in this role. The pros aren't any, but the cons are many and it could also affect his bowling especially if the media brings him in to the limelight and that is likely to happen very soon i.e., if he has to lead the team in the middle and that will be a disaster if we loose him as a bowler as well.

  • mubashir on May 7, 2007, 19:36 GMT

    interesting move i guess!even i was surprised to see asif as vice,but lets see maybe we have found the right deputy for malik--both are sialkoti's so that factor might also work!altough i was in support for afridi as vice! fawad alam should bat at no.3 in the upcoming matches

  • Shahid Iqbal, Canada on May 7, 2007, 19:34 GMT

    PCB seems to be moving in the right direction to groom young blood and start the preparations for the next world cup. But I believe they are going a little overboard with the young blood intentions. You need to select leaders not just young and good players for the leadership roles. The decision to appoint Shoaib Malik is the right one as he seems to have the right personality profile for the job but choosing Asif is a tricky one that may bite them back. Asif is a great bowler with all the potential of becoming a great one. I think he needs to concentrate on his bowling and nothing else. Giving him the responsibility of vice captain might spoil him. He has not proven his metal yet in the extreme pressure situations. His interpersonal skills are not proven. He lacks the speech confidence. And off course not to forget the WADA issue. I think it is a wrong choice nad will put undue pressure on him.

    Salman Butt would have been the right choice here. It would have given him confidence and he could become the next Saeed Anwar for Pakistan cricket.

    PCB has got one good an done bad decision here.

  • WASIM SAQIB on May 7, 2007, 19:08 GMT

    Totally agree with you Kamran, although Asif is a great bowler and an exciting prospect for Pakistan, but I think he should have never been appointed the Vice Captain Of Pakistan team, whatever he did was morally and ethically wrong and we should have followed the example of Aussie's although they let Warne play but they never appointed him at any position in the team, PCB again failed to preserve the honor of the country and failed to make a statement against such acts, I think Umar Gul was a more deserving candidate for the position of Vice Captain.

    Its been almost 7 months since this doping scandal took place, if PCB had handed over both the players a one year ban in a few months from now they would have been free to play again without any fear of any Inquiries, these two players missed the WC anyways so I don’t know what PCB gained from delaying the matter, I think the whole matter was mishandled by PCB, their judicial Inquiry and the appeals by these two players and subsequent Injury claims were a complete farce, and only brought shame for the country. It is interesting to note that Shoaib has only played one test since this whole fiasco took place and Asif has Played three tests and 5 Odis, although Asif has been selected for the current series but its not a high profile series and even if he had missed this one it would have been of no consequence.

    The team for the Abu Dhabi has been announced and the squad is as follows:

    Shoaib Malik (capt), Salman Butt, Imran Nazir, Mohammad Hafeez, Yasir Hameed, Mohammad Yousuf, Shahid Afridi, Fawad Alam, Kamran Akmal (wk), Abdul Razzaq, Mohammad Asif, Mohammad Sami, Umar Gul, Rao Iftikhar, Najaf Shah.

    I think Razzak should have not been included in the Squad, also the selection of 5 openers is beyond comprehension, Shahid Yousaf should have been selected. We need to groom somebody in place of Inzi and Younis. Shahid has been consistently performing in Domestic cricket he also performed well in the practice match, PCB selected four all-rounders and Six fast bowlers, I think they should have selected more batsmen and should have tried them alternatively in three matches. With the exception of Fawad Alam and Najaf shah there are no new faces in the team, Same faces will produce the same results, The selectors should have selected some more youngsters and tried them in this low profile series.

  • Shahid Khan on May 7, 2007, 18:38 GMT

    Corrupt people are always rewarded only in one country in the world which is Pakistan. Shoaib & Asif took performance enhancing banned drugs and they must be banned to play cricket for the rest of their lives but instead PCB have rewarded Asif by appointing him the Vice Captain of the national cricket team. We are setting a good example for our young citizens. Take drugs/ cheats and you will be successful. This is a path to success. Pakistan Cricket Board management do not have any moral values and they do not have any character either. Nasim Ashraf ... SHAME ON YOU

  • S. Sheikh on May 7, 2007, 18:37 GMT

    That is the way the fortune cookie crumbles in our country Kamran Bhai the talents were destroyed even before they blossomed especially where the PCB chairman is a person who does'nt know the ABC of the game best of luck to the Pakistani cricket team.

  • Usman Malik on May 7, 2007, 17:21 GMT

    I think the choice of Asif as vice captain is a good one. We need a new start. With Shoib as the captain none of the other senior players could be considered for the vice captains job. This excludes Abdul Razzaq, Shahid Afridi, Mohammad Yousuf etc; Among the young players Kamran Akmal or Salman Butt could be considered for the position of Vice Captain . Salman Butt has been in and out of the side for several years . Kamran Akmal's wicketkeeping skills are erratic . I think among the remaining players Mohammad Asif is the only one whose place in the side is a sure thing for now.

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  • Usman Malik on May 7, 2007, 17:21 GMT

    I think the choice of Asif as vice captain is a good one. We need a new start. With Shoib as the captain none of the other senior players could be considered for the vice captains job. This excludes Abdul Razzaq, Shahid Afridi, Mohammad Yousuf etc; Among the young players Kamran Akmal or Salman Butt could be considered for the position of Vice Captain . Salman Butt has been in and out of the side for several years . Kamran Akmal's wicketkeeping skills are erratic . I think among the remaining players Mohammad Asif is the only one whose place in the side is a sure thing for now.

  • S. Sheikh on May 7, 2007, 18:37 GMT

    That is the way the fortune cookie crumbles in our country Kamran Bhai the talents were destroyed even before they blossomed especially where the PCB chairman is a person who does'nt know the ABC of the game best of luck to the Pakistani cricket team.

  • Shahid Khan on May 7, 2007, 18:38 GMT

    Corrupt people are always rewarded only in one country in the world which is Pakistan. Shoaib & Asif took performance enhancing banned drugs and they must be banned to play cricket for the rest of their lives but instead PCB have rewarded Asif by appointing him the Vice Captain of the national cricket team. We are setting a good example for our young citizens. Take drugs/ cheats and you will be successful. This is a path to success. Pakistan Cricket Board management do not have any moral values and they do not have any character either. Nasim Ashraf ... SHAME ON YOU

  • WASIM SAQIB on May 7, 2007, 19:08 GMT

    Totally agree with you Kamran, although Asif is a great bowler and an exciting prospect for Pakistan, but I think he should have never been appointed the Vice Captain Of Pakistan team, whatever he did was morally and ethically wrong and we should have followed the example of Aussie's although they let Warne play but they never appointed him at any position in the team, PCB again failed to preserve the honor of the country and failed to make a statement against such acts, I think Umar Gul was a more deserving candidate for the position of Vice Captain.

    Its been almost 7 months since this doping scandal took place, if PCB had handed over both the players a one year ban in a few months from now they would have been free to play again without any fear of any Inquiries, these two players missed the WC anyways so I don’t know what PCB gained from delaying the matter, I think the whole matter was mishandled by PCB, their judicial Inquiry and the appeals by these two players and subsequent Injury claims were a complete farce, and only brought shame for the country. It is interesting to note that Shoaib has only played one test since this whole fiasco took place and Asif has Played three tests and 5 Odis, although Asif has been selected for the current series but its not a high profile series and even if he had missed this one it would have been of no consequence.

    The team for the Abu Dhabi has been announced and the squad is as follows:

    Shoaib Malik (capt), Salman Butt, Imran Nazir, Mohammad Hafeez, Yasir Hameed, Mohammad Yousuf, Shahid Afridi, Fawad Alam, Kamran Akmal (wk), Abdul Razzaq, Mohammad Asif, Mohammad Sami, Umar Gul, Rao Iftikhar, Najaf Shah.

    I think Razzak should have not been included in the Squad, also the selection of 5 openers is beyond comprehension, Shahid Yousaf should have been selected. We need to groom somebody in place of Inzi and Younis. Shahid has been consistently performing in Domestic cricket he also performed well in the practice match, PCB selected four all-rounders and Six fast bowlers, I think they should have selected more batsmen and should have tried them alternatively in three matches. With the exception of Fawad Alam and Najaf shah there are no new faces in the team, Same faces will produce the same results, The selectors should have selected some more youngsters and tried them in this low profile series.

  • Shahid Iqbal, Canada on May 7, 2007, 19:34 GMT

    PCB seems to be moving in the right direction to groom young blood and start the preparations for the next world cup. But I believe they are going a little overboard with the young blood intentions. You need to select leaders not just young and good players for the leadership roles. The decision to appoint Shoaib Malik is the right one as he seems to have the right personality profile for the job but choosing Asif is a tricky one that may bite them back. Asif is a great bowler with all the potential of becoming a great one. I think he needs to concentrate on his bowling and nothing else. Giving him the responsibility of vice captain might spoil him. He has not proven his metal yet in the extreme pressure situations. His interpersonal skills are not proven. He lacks the speech confidence. And off course not to forget the WADA issue. I think it is a wrong choice nad will put undue pressure on him.

    Salman Butt would have been the right choice here. It would have given him confidence and he could become the next Saeed Anwar for Pakistan cricket.

    PCB has got one good an done bad decision here.

  • mubashir on May 7, 2007, 19:36 GMT

    interesting move i guess!even i was surprised to see asif as vice,but lets see maybe we have found the right deputy for malik--both are sialkoti's so that factor might also work!altough i was in support for afridi as vice! fawad alam should bat at no.3 in the upcoming matches

  • JAVED A. KHAN, MONTREAL, CANADA on May 7, 2007, 19:39 GMT

    So the blog is alive, kicking and shl**sing again and that too with a vice which is malice. Whatever the reality may be about his doping issue, whatever the outcome of that inquiry may be, but Mohammad Asif is not the material for the role of a leader. Making him a vice captain so soon is not a bold move Mr. Kamran Abbassi, imo its very much a pain-doo move. It was obvious that the PCB would do that and they did not disappoint us, at least not me. The guy has a possible face-off with WADA and I wonder if he has to lead the team in the absence of the prince of injury prone Malik, can he do any yada yada? I doubt it. Calling him a Sheikhupura McGrath or even a Rahmat ullah Alai is not going to solve the Pakistani leadership problems.

    The point in dispute here is not about his bowling, he is a very, very good bowler. I haven't seen many who can bowl with such accuracy and consistently for such long spells, besides he also has the ability to take wickets, which makes him rare. His conversion rate is also very good but, lets not talk about his bowling which is undisputed here. The point is about his personality which appears very weak and meek and it is very obvious, unless someone is a real pay-D-- and cannot see that.

    Its a known fact that he got in to the trouble of doping because of Shoaib Akhtar's influence, or whoever for that matter. If a person can be pushed or convinced so easily and yet he can call himself an innocent? OK, you may accept him for once, thats fair enough. But, this is another issue where decision making is the key to success and what kinda knowledge and experience he has in this field? I won't pin up any hopes that Mohammad Asif would contribute anything significant in this role. The pros aren't any, but the cons are many and it could also affect his bowling especially if the media brings him in to the limelight and that is likely to happen very soon i.e., if he has to lead the team in the middle and that will be a disaster if we loose him as a bowler as well.

  • Zaheer on May 7, 2007, 20:27 GMT

    A very wise move although i still regard Naseem Ashraf to be a complete waste of time. Wholesale changes would have made no difference anyway and if we had Asif available in the WC we have have had a win or 2 in the bag. He is not McGrath and to get to that status he will need to prove his worth but he certainly is a very talented young man and I wish him all the best and may he be a better choice than Mr Akhtar who like Naseem is a complete Jack.

  • anees on May 7, 2007, 20:37 GMT

    you cant honestly think the pcb will change its ways do you? it is run by a bunch of idiots who bend over for musharaff at his will. dont expect pakistani cricket to move forward while these idiots are still here

  • Ali on May 7, 2007, 21:12 GMT

    he is too new to be vice captain apart from WADA thing... when there is a young captain, the vice captain should be an experienced player ... Afridi should have been concidered for that .