Politics March 22, 2009

IPL must support Pakistan's cricketers

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The possibility of the IPL moving offshore brings sadness and perhaps opportunity. Cricket is now so cowed by fear of terrorism that three South Asian nations have had key tournaments disrupted within weeks of the Lahore attacks. While a contest between Pakistan and Bangladesh would have struggled to set the pulse racing, the Indian Premier League managed to enthrall even the most skeptical of cricket fans. Much of that fascination was created by the passion of India's cricket fans, the biggest losers if the tournament is relocated.

The opportunities, however, carry their own fascination - especially for Pakistan cricket fans. Importantly, a successful offshore IPL will ease Pakistan's transition to a team of globetrotters. Furthermore, the PCB and IPL could consider reinstating Pakistan's cricketers if the tournament is outside India. Is that too much too ask? Aren't all nations victims of terrorism? Why should Pakistan's players be penalised and prevented from participating in a purportedly global tournament? Don't Pakistan's cricketers require support from the international cricket community to help competitive international cricket to survive in Pakistan?

The IPL has an opportunity to show that cricket has the power to repair damaged national relationships, and that it will not be cowed by terrorism. Indeed, becoming the premier world competition is not simply a matter of financial muscle, it is also a matter of leading by impeccable example.

Kamran Abbasi is an editor, writer and broadcaster. He tweets here

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  • Cordy on November 12, 2011, 6:34 GMT

    Never would have thunk I would find this so indsipesnable.

  • Asif sarfraz on April 6, 2009, 23:21 GMT

    I just heard heard Ravi shastri squirm on live tv about icl players! Regarding the announcement that Pakistan have included icl in their thirty man squad! The new Zealand commentator made a comment; and then said that we most definitely need shane bond in our team! U could tell that Ravi Bhai was a bit tense on the subject! All respects to India, and they are a great cricket team! But icc should not let them dictate which players that wish to represent and play for their country! The icc world twenty20 is a icc event and not bcci! Hence the name 'icc' world twenty20! Come on icc stand up for yourselves! The ipl is a great tournament! But we should not be making noise that Pakistani players should be included! We've been out the game for long periods! But we still come on strong!

  • arjun shetty on April 6, 2009, 5:31 GMT

    I see some people optimistic about next years chances of pakistan cricket team playing in India or cricket even being played in pakistan. Given the way Pakistan is collapsing,thinking about cricket is a little way too unrealistic. Pakistan has too many things to think about before cricket!!!

  • Aman Khan on April 2, 2009, 11:29 GMT

    I was just going through the Domestic Final Scorecard, Well Done to PIA. I just cant understand How a Person who Averages 56+ in first class, 44 in A list matches and still cannot find a regular place in the Pakistan Team, I am Talking about Fawad Alam.... even his average in the limited games he has represeneted Pakistan is excellent. add to his Batting Quality, he is one of the best fielders i have seen and very useful left arm orthodox bowler...I believe he has immense potential and hopefully get a regular place in the side... i am sure he is one of the answers to our middle order problem and can also score freely.... i hope Mr. Qadir has enough sense and give him a fair chance to prove his talent...

  • Kaushik Lakshman on March 28, 2009, 2:12 GMT

    I would love to watch Pak players in action in the IPL.....&& now that the tournament has been shifted out of India i dont see why that should not happen. Indeed it would be sad if Pakistanplayers are not allowed even now.

  • rahul on March 26, 2009, 8:20 GMT

    Why does Mr abbasi thinks that cricket has the power to repair damaged national relationships. No sports/art form has that power. Relationships are built on trust and cooperation not on the basis of who you play with on cricket firld. Gone are the days of 90s when everyone from Pakistan to India used to say the same thing that politics has divided us, we are otherwise brothers. I am sorry now an average Indian doesn't say those things. No we are not brothers and politics doesn't seperate us. What seperate us is our national identity and the national boundaries. Indians don't care much about Pakistan and cricket anymore. Gone are those days.

  • wakeel on March 25, 2009, 18:43 GMT

    and i am glad to know that the tournment is held in S.Africa. being a die hard fan of Pakistan Cricket i always look at news and its affectivness to Pakistani Team.

    Now the reason m happy to see IPl in SA is although the the tournament is Pak Players Free but its stil benefical because if the tournament was held in England instead then all the players would had an advantage in T20 worldcup which wil be held in June. So thank GOD..atleast somethings our way!!!

  • wakeel on March 25, 2009, 18:36 GMT

    As per the Pakistani Govt is concern our officals only refused the players to tour India ONLY! and rightly so! keeping in mind the 'current circumstances'. i am kindoff sure tht our govt will have no issues if our players take part in IPL if its been played outside India. And ofcourse rules can be change it the IPL officals really wanted our players to participate then i am sure they must have hunt a way. but the reality now is the PCB and BCCI are not in good terms anymore. so BCCI hardly cares for PCB.

    Simple isnt it?

  • wakeel on March 25, 2009, 18:29 GMT

    a reply to deepa's comment the elections were predecided and so ws IPL so y did the change in venue came into being just days before the tournament..both the upcoming elections and the terror threat had affected this venue change. if its only because of the election this step should or would had taken quit a time before.

  • abdh@hotmail.co.uk on March 25, 2009, 18:18 GMT

    I have been keeping a close eye on some of the domestic coverage and it seems as if the spinners are dominating the headlines in the RBS tournament. Many are unknown names but certainly the likes of Yasir Shah and Tahir Khan shall be striving for a position in the national side as Kaneria’s slump and ability to make an impact descended further and also a one day specialist seems to have been a vacant slot for some years now so a fresh face is required and either of those 2 names above or the many alternatives could be the mysterious solution !

    Also nice to see all the ICL players back and participating. There have been some good knocks from the likes of Khalid Latif and H.Farhat as well as some unheard candidates. So on the whole it's looking pleasing and promising !

  • Cordy on November 12, 2011, 6:34 GMT

    Never would have thunk I would find this so indsipesnable.

  • Asif sarfraz on April 6, 2009, 23:21 GMT

    I just heard heard Ravi shastri squirm on live tv about icl players! Regarding the announcement that Pakistan have included icl in their thirty man squad! The new Zealand commentator made a comment; and then said that we most definitely need shane bond in our team! U could tell that Ravi Bhai was a bit tense on the subject! All respects to India, and they are a great cricket team! But icc should not let them dictate which players that wish to represent and play for their country! The icc world twenty20 is a icc event and not bcci! Hence the name 'icc' world twenty20! Come on icc stand up for yourselves! The ipl is a great tournament! But we should not be making noise that Pakistani players should be included! We've been out the game for long periods! But we still come on strong!

  • arjun shetty on April 6, 2009, 5:31 GMT

    I see some people optimistic about next years chances of pakistan cricket team playing in India or cricket even being played in pakistan. Given the way Pakistan is collapsing,thinking about cricket is a little way too unrealistic. Pakistan has too many things to think about before cricket!!!

  • Aman Khan on April 2, 2009, 11:29 GMT

    I was just going through the Domestic Final Scorecard, Well Done to PIA. I just cant understand How a Person who Averages 56+ in first class, 44 in A list matches and still cannot find a regular place in the Pakistan Team, I am Talking about Fawad Alam.... even his average in the limited games he has represeneted Pakistan is excellent. add to his Batting Quality, he is one of the best fielders i have seen and very useful left arm orthodox bowler...I believe he has immense potential and hopefully get a regular place in the side... i am sure he is one of the answers to our middle order problem and can also score freely.... i hope Mr. Qadir has enough sense and give him a fair chance to prove his talent...

  • Kaushik Lakshman on March 28, 2009, 2:12 GMT

    I would love to watch Pak players in action in the IPL.....&& now that the tournament has been shifted out of India i dont see why that should not happen. Indeed it would be sad if Pakistanplayers are not allowed even now.

  • rahul on March 26, 2009, 8:20 GMT

    Why does Mr abbasi thinks that cricket has the power to repair damaged national relationships. No sports/art form has that power. Relationships are built on trust and cooperation not on the basis of who you play with on cricket firld. Gone are the days of 90s when everyone from Pakistan to India used to say the same thing that politics has divided us, we are otherwise brothers. I am sorry now an average Indian doesn't say those things. No we are not brothers and politics doesn't seperate us. What seperate us is our national identity and the national boundaries. Indians don't care much about Pakistan and cricket anymore. Gone are those days.

  • wakeel on March 25, 2009, 18:43 GMT

    and i am glad to know that the tournment is held in S.Africa. being a die hard fan of Pakistan Cricket i always look at news and its affectivness to Pakistani Team.

    Now the reason m happy to see IPl in SA is although the the tournament is Pak Players Free but its stil benefical because if the tournament was held in England instead then all the players would had an advantage in T20 worldcup which wil be held in June. So thank GOD..atleast somethings our way!!!

  • wakeel on March 25, 2009, 18:36 GMT

    As per the Pakistani Govt is concern our officals only refused the players to tour India ONLY! and rightly so! keeping in mind the 'current circumstances'. i am kindoff sure tht our govt will have no issues if our players take part in IPL if its been played outside India. And ofcourse rules can be change it the IPL officals really wanted our players to participate then i am sure they must have hunt a way. but the reality now is the PCB and BCCI are not in good terms anymore. so BCCI hardly cares for PCB.

    Simple isnt it?

  • wakeel on March 25, 2009, 18:29 GMT

    a reply to deepa's comment the elections were predecided and so ws IPL so y did the change in venue came into being just days before the tournament..both the upcoming elections and the terror threat had affected this venue change. if its only because of the election this step should or would had taken quit a time before.

  • abdh@hotmail.co.uk on March 25, 2009, 18:18 GMT

    I have been keeping a close eye on some of the domestic coverage and it seems as if the spinners are dominating the headlines in the RBS tournament. Many are unknown names but certainly the likes of Yasir Shah and Tahir Khan shall be striving for a position in the national side as Kaneria’s slump and ability to make an impact descended further and also a one day specialist seems to have been a vacant slot for some years now so a fresh face is required and either of those 2 names above or the many alternatives could be the mysterious solution !

    Also nice to see all the ICL players back and participating. There have been some good knocks from the likes of Khalid Latif and H.Farhat as well as some unheard candidates. So on the whole it's looking pleasing and promising !

  • geeps on March 25, 2009, 11:19 GMT

    Guess you should be asking Javed Miandad that question....It's quite apparent what bad politics and the wrested interest of a few governing members of the countries cricket board can do not just the players but also the sport in that country.

  • Jake Blutal on March 25, 2009, 10:00 GMT

    Kamran another baseless and senseless article from you. First of all it is the Pakistani government that did not permit the pakistani players from participating in the IPL. They acted in a retaliatory fashion, because the Indian government said no to the Indian tour to Pakistan in the aftermath of 26/11 and preemptively, without even considering the security arrangements in place for the all players during the tournament. Let us consider the fact that no other country or team acted with such little foresight. Now that the tournament is to be staged outside of India, automatically the Pakistanis expect to jump back on the bandwagon. First and foremost this is the INDIAN Premiere League - it is effectively a domestic Indian tournament, but with a much larger scope. It is not its duty to ensure that Pakistan cricket is provided a crutch or support because of its inability to keep visiting teams safe. The franchises were forced to replace Pakistani players and they cannot be accommodated.

  • Tejas on March 24, 2009, 22:57 GMT

    Pak player need clerance from PCB first. Has any one heard that PCB given a green signal to PAK players to play in IPL, due to the change in Venue? I suppose NO. This means the PCB and PAK govt. against the IPL.

  • timepass26 on March 24, 2009, 22:48 GMT

    Somehow this article is making it sound as if BCCI/IPL is stoping Pakistani players from playing in IPL. I feel sorry for the innocent well meaning Pakistanis who are victim of terrorism and pity for those who knowingly ignore the facts responsible for the sitiuation they and their fellow Pakistanis are in. Mr Abbasi you are asking certain questions which you already know answers for. Pakistan cricket is in such a sitiuation because of home grow terrorist and ask questions about what is being done to get rid of it. However unfortunate it might be but others are victims of terrorism wheras Pakistan is victim of self-made terrorism. Just ask your Prez?

  • Naeem on March 24, 2009, 21:37 GMT

    I'm pretty sick of this blame game even between the people of two countries now. First Indian Government refused to the BCCI to tour Pakistan and then against the will of many Pakistanis, including me, Pakistan government stopped our players from participating in the IPL. Which I think was stupid and immature. If the other person do a wrong thing, you don't have to return it with another stupid act. So now is the time for both governments to behave and let the cricketers play wherever they want to play and PLEASE people of subcontinent stop fighting each other.

  • rafay usman on March 24, 2009, 19:44 GMT

    ponting refuses to play... clarke also.. so why not IPL terminate their contracts also.. even there is no restriction from their govt.. sooo????... BCCI always want to make PAK team alone.. they alwayz knw that this is the only team that match them.. nywayz.. its entirely up to them whom to play or not. dont blame PAK govt or playerz.. indian GOVT also dint gave the permission to INDIAN team to visit PAK.. do u guyz have short team memory loss prob... GOD knws whts in the heart and mind of a person.. and he knws who is commited to cricket and who'z is not ...

  • khalil on March 24, 2009, 16:10 GMT

    Cricket has suffered the maximum due to politicisation of sports around the world.It has the healing touch in it and has united bitter rivals but its commercialisation has turned it into a weapon.

  • Chetan on March 24, 2009, 15:16 GMT

    Guys,

    First - PCB have yet to reverse their decision to disallow Pakistanis to participate in the IPL. Second - In addition to all the contract issues with change in location, re-allowing Pakistanis now would require the Franchisees to re-negotiate player contracts (cancelling the replacements they bought for the Pakistanis) etc. Even assuming that the Franchisees might be willing to do it, is there sufficient time for all this ? Also why should the Franchisees pay for PCB's cussedness ? The players should sue PCB for loss of earnings instead.

  • Anil Rao on March 24, 2009, 15:05 GMT

    I agree with kamran and many pakistani cricket fans here,As an Indian i request Mr.Modi to invite Pak players to play in IPL-2 for the sake of peacefull pakistani cricket lovers.

  • Dr. Samir More on March 24, 2009, 15:04 GMT

    @a133936 I guess the comments that followed describing about the logistics,the money reserved for Pak cricketers spent on others,the move abroad bringing with it the added expenditures, the toll of recession on franchise owners and lack of proper Indian public wanting to see players from the other side of border live in action besides assured backlash from a conservative few of the society are all the major hurdles that IPL will have to overtake. @Stani Army You are missing the point, my friend. What most readers are arguing with the tone which the blog is setting. It is being percieved as if the onus is with the IPL rather than being on the Pakistani government. PCB was never a problem, the pak Government was. has Mr. Kamran A. mentioned it anywhere? The title, multiple questions with the last one putting the onus on the international community and the ignorance that it is the Pak government which should take the lead & then IPL and not the other way around that is being frowned upon.

  • RS2009 on March 24, 2009, 13:17 GMT

    It was the Pakistan Cricket Board whic barred the players from playing in India. BCCI or the IPL dod not have anything to do with that. Now it is too late for this season. If PCB permiths them to play in India, mybe next year. Thanks.

  • Saptarshi on March 24, 2009, 10:56 GMT

    It now looks like the franchisees are keen on taking back the pakistani players. So now the ball is in PCB's court.

  • sham on March 24, 2009, 10:24 GMT

    will love to see them in ipl

  • sat on March 24, 2009, 10:06 GMT

    Whatever the case/reason, in a nutshell it is plain SAD if PAKISTANI cricketers cannot take part in an INDIAN cricket league especially WHEN THEY WANT TO. Remember in our Indian beliefs, we are taught that any visitor at your door is a form of god and I know that this statement is more theoretical rather than practical. If Pakistan government, PCB, and their players don’t want to tour India or participate in Indian leagues, then that’s theirs, but if they want to then INDIA should welcome them. Lastly, I would like to urge to Pakistan fans those who have ill-feelings towards India, please don’t take us Indians for granted. Let there be a two-way relationship! Actually, if IPL accommodates the Pakistani players, many such Pakistani fans hearts will be won over, even as an extremist true loyal Indian cricket fan, I just wish this was possible somehow, there must be some way, a miracle may be. Common Pakistan government at least make a quick first move and clear your players, secondly PCB quickly contact the IPL and BCCI and see if something can be worked out, and lastly come on BCCI and IPL administrators I know it is tough as they are running around in chaos to get the tournament going overseas and its tough after all logistics issues / financial assurance for franchises, but just spare a thought. Also there is a lot of Paki community in both SA and England. I remember a dialogue from Wacky races cartoon, “Mutley, do something!”

  • Omer Admani on March 24, 2009, 8:20 GMT

    But the question is, even if they are allowed to play, which player would be able to feature in the final 11 of any franchise based on current form.

    So the IPL will really be indifferent to Pakistani players, though the mere presence of players there would mean that at least they get something out of it (think of Kamran Akmal or Shoaib Malik). The point being that there is no incentive or star-appeal in the Pakistani players for the IPL to have an incentive. It will only be PCB's initiative I suppose.

  • S Ramesh on March 24, 2009, 8:17 GMT

    Mr.Abbasi - It was the Pak Govt. that barred your players from participating in the IPL. Maybe you should direct this post the your Govt. Another point - Apart from Sohail Tanvir, all the other Pakistanis failed miserably in the first edition of the IPL. The franchised do not see any value add in retaining these players. So even if the IPL moves out of India, I do not see the franchised renewing any of the contracts for the Pak players. Shoib Akhtar should focus on how to get back into the national squad rather than hoping the IPL will take him back. Wishful Thinking Shoib...

  • Clarity on March 24, 2009, 6:37 GMT

    Let me make this clear. The IPL offshore move is NOT, I repeat, NOT due to security concerns. The actual reason is that it coincides with the elections and politicians fear that since IPL has a huge following, voter turnout will be affected. There are no security threats.

    They should've just postponed it until after the elections or started on time so that they could finish by the elections. In India cricket is a religion and it is safe to say that given teh choice between watching an IPL game or voting, the former would be a no-brainer. Sad loss for civic responsibility.

  • Nir on March 24, 2009, 5:07 GMT

    IPL has been shifted bcos of clash of dates. Let's be clear that Pakistani players were not permitted by their government. As of now, it seems too late (as their places are filled up) and too little (Pak govt effort to atleast neutralize the relationship). We also want to see Pakistani players like Tanveer - Akmal to perform their level best. Let's keep the hope (against all odds).

  • Karan on March 24, 2009, 5:01 GMT

    @Wahaj Hussain "What cricket needs now is rivaval of positive rivalry and passion which at least Indians can't relish unless pakistan makes its presence in any way." whtta joke apart frm Tanveer none of the Pakistani made an impact in IPL's last yr edition.

  • Ammar Khan on March 24, 2009, 4:32 GMT

    For the next average Joe who fails to read the article completely or reads it without a pre-existing bias, I can not point out Kamran accusing the IPL management of any wrong doing. It does however say that PCB and IPL should work together to let them play, especially now that the IPL is staged outside of India.

    And just for kicks, I could swear I read a couple of people saying this article is bogus and not well researched and all or that every other foreign player will visit India. Seriously? I mean, seriously? You should take Reading 101 before commenting again. Whisper: English players might not be coming. Shhh!

    I think the player of the tournament in IPL last year should be allowed back in. Umar Gul, Salman Butt, Afridi, Shoaib Malik they all deserve a place back. Indian crowds deserve quality cricket and adding Pak players in the mix adds to the fun.

    I can't take the image of Ganguly hugging Akhtar from behind for getting Sehwag out!

    That is IPL for you, at its best

  • sat on March 24, 2009, 4:19 GMT

    This article expresses optimism by a true cricket lover but ignoring the complexities/logistics attached to the situation

    After Mumbai attacks, the emotions of Indians were greatly affected as opposed to before. What I mean is that all was well I the sense that we had Pakistani cricketers, actors, comedians and musicians come over to India and take part in IPL/ICL, television shows and even movies. Some of these were extremely popular and were voted by the public for their talent rather their religion. But after the traumatic Mumbai experience, those sentiments changed and all these artistes returned to Pakistan for security reasons, some of them were not granted visas later, touring shows were cancelled, and promotional music videos scraped. So the security issue for Pakistan players is a reason they weren’t allowed to play in India but on the flip side as NAVEED mentioned “that Pakistani players would be kind of extra baggage as it will not sit well with the fanchise having Pakistan's players in their team since tragic Mumbai events”

    So this is a much BIGGER problem as all Pakistan artistes (as well as cricketers) are facing it. Now this could be a debate and could identify the root cause of the problem, the debate being “should genuine talent be overshadowed by political/bureaucratic divides” and this can review the stance of Pakistan government to allow them permission to visit India in the first place and secondly are these cricketers/artistes accepted the same way before the Mumbai attacks occurred

    Even as an Indian fan I don’t think that IPL is the end of the world and Pakistan should never beg/plead to be reinstated rather than proceed in a dignified manner that upholds their country’s values, for the sake of respect/integrity of every Pakistan fan

  • krazy4sports on March 24, 2009, 3:44 GMT

    Are you seriously serious???? Pak players are NOT a part of IPL2 because of their Govt decision...When India refused to tour Pakistan after Mumbai attacks, didn't a lot of Pak players stated that they also wouldn't play in IPL!!! so much so for standing your ground... But I do agree wid you that it wouldn't be the same playing outside India... I went to all IPL matches in Delhi, but Indian spectators would be robbed of that oppurtunity because of oversight on IPL behalf.... BCCI is neither concerned about the convinience of the Indian spectator, nor about the country. After all it's Elections time in India and a whole lot of Indian players wuld not be able to vote. And we're not talking abt the odd hours at which the matches wuld be held.... So despite the fact that i'm a die hard cricketer and a fan, I seriously hope IPL looses money on this venture.

  • SR on March 24, 2009, 3:18 GMT

    Being an Indian myself I would love to see the Pak players play in the IPL. Players like Tanveer, Afridi , Shoaib & etc not being a part will take the thrill out of the game.

  • Moin on March 24, 2009, 2:31 GMT

    Kamran.

    I think it would be tough for the pakistani players to get into the IPL after the PCB did not allow them. I think IPL has so many stars, and most of them domestic players of India that pakistani players will never be missed.

  • safwan on March 24, 2009, 2:09 GMT

    kamran why arnt u answering to the comments or criticsm levied on ur blog?? i think it was a dual-edged decision on behalf of the PCB and IPL that led to a suspension on pakistani player's participation! i mean concurrently, we heard about the news of IPL suspending pakistani players and then PCB banning its players from going 2 india.....it was kind of a knee-jerk reaction from either side....and one which was inevitable following the mumbai attacks n the subsequent indian refusal to visit pakistan.......KAMRAN, PLEASE CLARIFY....ur blog sends mixed n confused messages!!

  • Stani Army on March 24, 2009, 0:54 GMT

    ERR Where did Kamran say it was the IPL that banned the Pakistan players? PEOPLE NEED TO READ WHAT IS WRITTEN & STOP THIS PREJUDICE AGAINST PAKISTANIS.

    To the contrary, he wrote "Furthermore, the PCB & IPL could consider reinstating Pakistan's cricketers" amazing how all haters managed to miss "PCB".

    Pakistani players were pulled out for safety reasons in case of attack from certain people in the crowds etc. If the PCB did not pull them out, DO NOT kid yourself by thinking that the IPL would not have banned them anyway. Hence your argument is pointless.

    You people are so caught up in saying that it was the PCB & not the IPL that banned the players that you could not bring yourselves to say, in many cases, that now that the IPL is being moved, there is no reason, apart from time constraints or franchise expenditure, that the Pakistani players should not be allowed to play. How sad.

    It's no loss though. This fast-food cricket tournament will only be around for two more seasons max.

  • bala on March 24, 2009, 0:25 GMT

    Me thinks,even if it were ok (for the BCCI and Pak govt) to include Pakistan players in the league,it would be unfair on the franchisees on purely economical terms.Already they have to pay the expenses of the extra baggage of international cricketers who may not even get to play(only 4 overseas players rule,which I think is stupid).Each team has a minimum of 8 internationals I think and they would be hard pressed already with this IPL moving out fiasco.Besides they don't get back the money invested on replacements for the Pakistani cricketers.

  • raving on March 24, 2009, 0:17 GMT

    Your idea is a nice idea Kamran and I can see that it would provide much happiness to a pak cricket fan if your players play in IPL .. But you must remember you are talking about BCCI here. The cricket board which puts its revenue above national interest/elections. This is a board which puts its revenue before its own cricket fans. Do you really think the BCCI will for a moment, think about a neighbouring country's cricket fan ? Expecting any sort of leadership (forget being an impeccable example) from BCCI is plain wishful thinking Kamran... BCCI is drunk in its new found power.. I am willing to bet that BCCI will continue its petty politics with PCB which isnt innocent either. Not that it matters here, but I'm an Indian/Indian cricket fan.. If you have been disillusioned by PCB's administration, I've been disillusioned by BCCI's attitude and power...

  • Alf on March 24, 2009, 0:14 GMT

    As umpteen posters have already pointed out, it was pakistan's decision not to get involved with IPL and nothing to do with IPL, India, BCCI or ICC. At least state the facts in your article as currently it looks as if its the indians who are somehow at fault and pakistanis are as usual victims of some conspiracy.

    Pls stop portraying yourself as a victim all the time and try to cure yourself of this persecution complex.

  • Abbas Naqvi on March 23, 2009, 23:12 GMT

    The IPL is a domestic tournament, an INDIAN domestic tournament. It is a professional one at that, and it certainly is not alright that it is ok to break contractual obligations playing in India and conveniently forget this if playing outside. The pakistani govt has forced its players to break this trust between them and the owners of the franchises and the cricketrs must pay the price. Further, if they were so keen to play they could have taken a leaf out of the books of the rebel ICL players and said they will participate in the IPL no matter what. If Mr Abbasi is missing playing in a T20 tournament so much, maybe he should take it upon himself to organize a similar event in pakistan. However, I dont think too many international players will want to be a part of this. Cricket in pakistan is unlikely to survive its own government.

  • Wasif on March 23, 2009, 21:42 GMT

    i dont understand why some indians are keep saying we should blame pakistani. Well who refused to come to pakistan at first? It was indian goverment not pakistani ok. Pakistani Gov't did not block pakistanis from going to India but refused to give them clearance due to security concerns. Players were allowed to leave on their own. Now if we are to blame pakistani gov't for everything then why werent all pakistani players released if they were not coming to India? 6-8 Pakistani players are still under IPL contract. The way i see it that Modi and Indian Gov't just doesnt want to deal with Pakistan at all. To prove this point isn't BCCI that said was going to host World Cup alone. ok pakistan is not safe but whats wrong with Sri and Bang? oh wait Weather problem in Srilanka? what about WI? WestIndies is the worst place to play cricket weather wise and just look at recent series there. I am sick and tired of some indians keep crying for no reason and just blaming others

  • Amirali on March 23, 2009, 21:39 GMT

    The Pakistan government first denied the players permission to travel to India, and then the IPL understandably had to cancel their contracts. I hope noone feels the Pakistan players were to blame for that. Many of them have been consistently vocal against this decision. Now that the tournament has been relocated, I hope that it can be feasible for the Pakistan players to play. I don't agree the franchises would resent Pakistani players in their teams because of the tragic Mumbai events, as Naveed claims. If anything, I would interpret Pakistani players playing alongside Indians as a statement that despite the rhetoric of many of our politicians (and sadly, many militants in Pakistan), many of us want to build closer ties with India. I can understand why Indians feels anger towards the Pakistan government, as many Pakistanis do also. But for those of us in Pakistan who want an end to violence, we would appreciate the chance to see our Pakistani cricketers stand besides those of India.

  • Chris on March 23, 2009, 21:36 GMT

    This is the most unresearched article ever... the PCB or IPL have not said anything against paskistanis playing in IPL..the pakistan govt forbid players from traveling to india, and hence IPL made plans and team rosters without these players. now its a question of logistics..its too late to include pakistani players as the roster has already been chosen by the franchises..it might still be a possiblity though..lots of people want the pakistanis to play..they could be back by popular demand..

  • Tej on March 23, 2009, 21:29 GMT

    I hope Pakistani players get a chance to participate in the tournament - there is much talent and this can go a long way toward sustaining cricket in Pakistan till the security issues have been resolved as well as getting normalizing relations with India (again).

  • Sharma on March 23, 2009, 21:17 GMT

    Hi guys, the problem with the masses is (as repeated above) that in this 24 hour media storm, we have lost good sense and analytical aproach. Now I dont want to be judge of placing the guilt but after the terror attacks, which indian media and govt placed on pakistan govt, and pakistan govt placed it on those noncontrolable elements which even the superpower and nato are unable to control at the moment. Now our media being one of the most aggressive one in the world, created an atmosphare where no pakistani visiting or performing in our country was feeling safe. So in that situation it was responsible that pak authorities stopped there people to visit india for some time. Now back to sport, just remember that india and pakistan have been a solid block in int. cricket for many years, and I dont think BCCI should take advantage of political situation but should be in forefront to oblige PCB in hard times. And as we know pak cricket lovers, they will pay it back a 100 times.

  • waterbuffalo on March 23, 2009, 21:08 GMT

    More important than the question of whether Pakistan's players will be allowed to play in the 20/20 IPL is whether Pakistan's National Team will be allowed to play in England and the Windies and Sharjah for Test Series', which are 100 times more important than a 3 week 20/20 league. I seriously doubt England will allow it, not after July the 7th; first things first, Kamran. And that will another in a gathering list of tragedies for Pakistan Cricket.

  • shafiq on March 23, 2009, 19:29 GMT

    Dear all, even if it was Pakistan government, playing a tit for tat, with India to not allow their players (due to security or political reason) to visiting other country. Now the point is IPL is not occuring in India---means no issue of pakistan players availability---and great oppurtunity for indian government (BCI) to win hearts of pakistan fans....In the result, a great oppurtunity to repair the damaged relations of both countries....if each franchise has even 1 or 2 pakistani players---you will all know Region will hit sixes in all fronts. Dear Mr. Modi (not moody -:)) ---- we Pakistanis understand your mind well, the way you staright drives the cricket world--- i hope you understand the need of the time, and play it with sub-continent nations. After all, you have to lead.

  • desihungama on March 23, 2009, 19:11 GMT

    Right! We are all singing the same song that Pakistani Gov. did not allow the PCB and the players to appear in the IPL AFTER it saw the treatment meted out to its citizen who in the aftermath of the Bombay attacks went there to show solidarity. We all very well remember Shakeel.

  • AM on March 23, 2009, 19:07 GMT

    While I can understand the sentiments of most Indian supporters in blaming the PCB and the Pakistan government for not allowing the Pakistani cricketers to play in the IPL IN INDIA, the fact is that for once (and purely by chance)the PCB has been proved right that India was not safe for cricket for the Pakistanis. Now the fact that the whole tournament is being shifted out of India on security grounds, lends some weight to Kamran's argument that a way should be found to accomodate the Pakistani cricketers. But I am afraid it may be too late at this stage for that to happen. Yes if the PCB had some clout, it might have been a possibility, but no one respects the PCB in Pakistan, let alone the rest of the world.

  • ram on March 23, 2009, 19:02 GMT

    what happens when IPL is back in India next year??

  • dr aziz ul qadir, wah cantt on March 23, 2009, 18:55 GMT

    Pak govt refused to allow its players from participating right, but why; because there were negative signals from india. Lalit modi had said that it would not be possible for pakistan players to play. Now that scenario has changed so why they cant play? Something is wrong there....

  • Danish on March 23, 2009, 18:18 GMT

    I would recommend Dubai over England but that is a personal choice. I feel in order for the intensity and anticipation to remain by the T20WC the IPL tournament won’t be an ideal scenario making matches overloaded and affect the audience’s interest in at least one affair. Also one shall consider venue shortages due to county cricket and the unpredictable weather conditions.

  • CRICKETEXPERT on March 23, 2009, 18:16 GMT

    Deepa, who are you trying to fool???

    The general elections are just an excuse being made by India to try and cover the fact that the tournament is being shifted because the security is not great in that part of the world. It is very unfortunate that people like yourself have been blindfolded so easily.

  • Jit on March 23, 2009, 17:47 GMT

    Why can't they play? I wish they could play, but there are two BIG reasons they won't be able to play: 1) Pakistan govt has prevented them from playing in IPL. 2) All the IPL teams have replaced pak players with other foreign players and have almost spent all the money they are allowed to. They have signed contract with the new foreign players so they have to keep them. There is limit on how many foreign players each team can have and how many can play in final 11. So, in order for pak players to be able to play in IPL, they will have to break many IPL laws as well as they will have to come up with lot more money to pay all the additional players. Keep in mind they can only play 11 at a time so they will end up with many overhead players. In this economy, no IPL team can afford this.

  • Hormazd on March 23, 2009, 17:24 GMT

    PCB barred. IPL calcelled contrats. IPL signed new players. Difficult to get them again because already all players have been signed for next 2 years.

    Best option is to allow Franchises to make some additional purchases from Pakistani players if they have money and are willing. Rules: Same contract amount as earlier. Same team if willing earlier. Any other team if willing.

  • Rajesh on March 23, 2009, 17:05 GMT

    Keep all politics of the Govts and Associations at bay. Please show some sportsman spirit. It would be the best gesture from IPL, if Pakistan players could play now. I really wish they could as a peace/cricket loving Indian

  • a133936 on March 23, 2009, 16:59 GMT

    Pakistan govt did stop Pak players to participate in IPL. They were stopped from going to India by the Pak govt. I think, what author is saying that since IPL is not in India, now Pak govt will not have any problems letting player go to South Africa. Similarly now IPL should not having any problems letting Pak players participate in IPL. Author must be responding to the last paragraph in this article: http://content.cricinfo.com/ipl2009/content/current/story/396319.html

    "However, the move out of India will not affect players from Pakistan - they still not be allowed to take part. "IPL announced the squads 30 days in advance," Modi said. "No changes are allowed in that. Unfortunately, no Pakistan player will play this year." If this is the case, then I agree with Kamran that at the last moment the whole tournament can be moved out to a new country but roster of 2-3 teams can not be changed to allow Pak players??? Why???? Hence IPL does NOT want Pak players!!

  • Rahul on March 23, 2009, 16:58 GMT

    As far as i remember it was Pakistan's government that denied security clearance to Pakistani players to travel to India for the Indian premier league and many players also asked for compensation from Pakistan's government regarding the whole debacle, i don't recall any incident where the Indian government denied Pakistani players from participating in the event. however now since the league is going to take place in south Africa the Pakistan's government cant stop their players from participating in the league and i would love to see the likes of sohail tanvir and misba back in the game.

  • BritIndian on March 23, 2009, 16:45 GMT

    The first thought I had when the venues changed was the Pakistani players should be invited back. The PCB is clearly at fault for taking them out of the tournament, but in the greater interests of the game and sporing nature, the IPL authorities should accomodate the Pak players, The PCB and Franchisees should pay for the Pak players 50%/50% and the IPL should bend the rules for this season to allow 5 overseas players in each game (not 4 as is the current rule). The IPl will win millions of hearts and minds worldwide. And finally, this is a testing time for cricket in the sub-continent, all countries should work hand in hand.

  • Naveed on March 23, 2009, 16:19 GMT

    This article doesn't make sense - We didn't allow our players to go for security reasons and I agree b'ce of that and also that Pakistani players would be kind of extra baggage as it will not sit well with the fanchise having Pakistan's players in their team since tragic Mumbai events. So I think since its Pakistani decision we should abide by it and thats it ----

  • Rahul Vamshidhar on March 23, 2009, 15:59 GMT

    Just to be clear, when I said "We-don' want to play..." I didn't mean the Pakistani players, I meant the the PCB and the 'others' that have a say in this matter. I'd be lying if I said I didn't hope for such a scenario(Pak players being reinstated) to present itself when I learnt the IPL was shifting. But I really wonder if it's a wise idea to unilaterally provide the option, perhaps at the cost of being snubbed. So I hope both the boards communicate healthily regarding this aspect and come up with a positive solution, I really do hope that happens. Any chance for warmness between the two countries is a chance to be pounced upon. It's heartening for all of us. Well at the very least it's a question of decency.

  • Rahul Vamshidhar on March 23, 2009, 15:48 GMT

    First things first, It'd be great to have the Pakistan players play in the IPL. They're good players and that can only ensure better cricket. Secondly we love the concept of Indians and Pakistanis on the same team. It's jut somehow endearing. At least for those amongst us who don't choose to be fanatical fools. Thirdly what they're having to go through at the moment, it is our responsibility and only decent to reinstate them. But having said all this, the whole premise of this issue is the argument We-won't-play-in-India-but-will-elsewhere! Now that's just weird! Especially because the reason they won't play in India is not because of security issues, but as a stupid retaliatory measure. There's a protocol to be maintained here. Essentially the question is how can you let osmeone play in your domestic league when they don't want to play in your country, even if it were logistically feasible? BCCI alone can't be the bigger person here(as doubtful as that in itself sounds!)

  • Shirwan Khan on March 23, 2009, 14:23 GMT

    Blimey, enough with the duplicate postings, we know the Pakistan Govt. barred it's players from the IPL, but is it necessary for every posting to confirm and reconfirm that? MOVE ON!!

  • Sehas on March 23, 2009, 13:55 GMT

    @Wahaj Hussain - You are grossly mistaken. Indians don't need Pakistani players in IPL to experience rivalry and passion. They better stay in their secured country. Next year IPL will be back in India and then again your players will feel insecured in India. So let the teams establish their combinations, which probably don't require Pakistan players.

  • S Abbas on March 23, 2009, 13:40 GMT

    I think Pakistan and Pakistani supporters should stop begging all this non sense. At the moment we need to fix the law and order situation in Pakistan and concentrate on domestic cricket. Stop this obsession with IPL.

  • Wahaj Hussain on March 23, 2009, 11:03 GMT

    I feel that IPL has added a new dimension to cricket. We should not forget that even last year Tanweer and some pakistani players stayed in the tournament till last and the interest of the viewers sustained despite some key overseas players had to leave on account of their domestic engagements. It is no secret why gov of pakistan did not allow the players to visit under so much stress and fear. Now if Pakistan's players are not included in the IPL the true spirit and camerarderie which became hallmark of this glittering tournament would be conspicuosly missing. What cricket needs now is rivaval of positive rivalry and passion which at least Indians can't relish unless pakistan makes its presence in any way.

  • arjun on March 23, 2009, 10:57 GMT

    do u guys even read the other comments? 3 people at the top said it was the pak govt who stopped them playing in the ipl. and that is true - they didnt want them to play in ipl

  • Aly on March 23, 2009, 10:35 GMT

    It’s unfortunate that Pakistani players won’t be playing in the IPL, but this decision was made by the Pakistani government who refused them permission. At the same time the Indian IPL Franchises needed a loop hole to get rid off some of their Pakistani players after the Mumbai attacks and the refusal of their respective government. Hate it or love it but the tournament wont be the same without the Pakistanis because the leading wicket taker was a Pakistani. The best moment of the tournament was Shoabi’s first game in which he took 4 wickets! For Pakistan the best reply will be the world 20/20 to answer their critics.

  • Sunny on March 23, 2009, 10:27 GMT

    Now it was Pakistan Govt. that didn't allow pakistani players to play IPL... and Lalit Modi said Pakistani players won't be allowed because the rule is that the team is to be announced in 30 days advance, now how can IPL include players now.... it is Pakistani Govt. who is responsible

  • Roger on March 23, 2009, 10:15 GMT

    On the ball mate - I love your analysis, and you are quite right.

    IPL will not be same anywhere but India, but the Pakistani's with their depth in raw talent, should certainly be present now.

  • Vikas on March 23, 2009, 10:03 GMT

    A very good attempt by Kamran Abbasi to put the ball in the BCCI's court.First of all,the IPL has been moved out due to the general elections in India in April .In less than a few weeks can the IPL organizers arrange for the Pakistani cricketers to be structured into the playing stuctures.Secondly the PCB has to show the green signal from the Pakistani govt for the players to go ahead in quick time.The IPL organizers are more worried about staging the tournament in a new country and getting the infrastructures and playing conditions around quickly.It is doubtful if they will spare a thought to Pakistani cricketers.If it doesn't happen then it will be sad since they are an attractive bunch.Who can immediately forget that Sohail Tanvir the best bowler of the tournament last year!

  • uglyhunK on March 23, 2009, 10:02 GMT

    If I'm not wrong, it was Pakistan government and PCB that said to Pak players' participation in IPL. And later Indian government did not seem correct to have Pak player playing IPL given what happened in Mumbai. Though IPL is moved out of India, it is still technically an Indian domestic competition and Indian government holds all rights, under exceptional circumstances like these, to have its say. Period.

  • Vishal Mehra on March 23, 2009, 9:49 GMT

    Kamran i think your wrong going by Pakistani Govt's statement that the cricketers are not allowed to play in IPL. i think we would like your reaction on this, also let me be real honest in saying that as sad as it may sound, the cricket world doesnt needs pakistani cricketers anymore.... there seems to be far more glamorous and talented players around

  • Rajan on March 23, 2009, 9:34 GMT

    After Pakistan Government stopped its players from playing in IPL, the IPL franchises had to completely re work their options in terms of resources and picked players by committing huge sums of money. Imagine Kolkotta Paying $600,000 for Mashrafe Murtaza and Bangalore paying upwards of $1.5 millions for Kevin Peterson after Misbah pulled out.Now that the teams have a settled look after inducting new players and internal transfers,the Pakistan players would be just superfluous and a big cash burden for the respective franchisees especially in a situation where they are not sure of revenue due to relocation away from India. why shud the franchisees suffer for Pakistan Government's knee jerk reaction? already they had been through so much of unexpected problems for one season.Pakistan players shud prevail upon their Government and PCB for compensation and exposure by starting Pakistan Premier league and attract top players from all over the world if Kapil's ICL can attract, why not PCB?

  • Sunny on March 23, 2009, 9:26 GMT

    I thought it was the Pakistani govt that refused permission to the players to play in the IPL on security grounds (hah!)...may be the govt should revoke their stance?

  • kumar on March 23, 2009, 8:06 GMT

    There is nothing wrong in what Kamran is asking for and I totally support his views. I am not sure if it is PCBs decision or IPL's but it doesn't make sense not to allow Pakistani players to play if IPL is held outside India. Being a true Indian cricket fan I don't like to miss out an opportunity to watch great players from Pakistan in action. After all it is a game of cricket and it shouldn't be politicized. If it is a question of security, I can understand but if it is not then every good Pakistani player deserves to be part of the tournament. I agree with Emad! The sports journalists should make this as a big issue and more importantly the cricket boards of other cricketing nations should voice their support too. Sad to see so much changes in cricket in the sub-continent due to the atrocities committed by the terrorists. There is no justfication what they have done. We Indian fans will certainly miss the IPL action if it is not played in India. JaiHind!

  • Lenin on March 23, 2009, 7:51 GMT

    As much as I want to see Pakistan players in IPL, we need to understand that since the Pakistan government declined permission for them to tour, the onus is on them to now give clearance. Once that is done & PCB issues NOC, the players can approach their respective franchises who will then talk with IPL management. Mr.Abbasi, it cannot be the other way round..

  • Shreyas on March 23, 2009, 7:42 GMT

    Please correct me if I'm wrong, didn't the Pakistan government bar the players from participating in the IPL, and not the other way around?

  • IKKI on March 23, 2009, 7:24 GMT

    I agree that the PCB had not given permission to the Pakistani Cricketers not to play in India after the mumbai terrorist attacks. However, seeing that the tournament has been moved out of India it will be worth IPL consiering to reinstate the Pakistani players as it will give the touranament more credibility of being an international vent. One must also take into consideration the support that Pakistan enjoys in England, South Africa and Dubai

  • Prajit on March 23, 2009, 7:22 GMT

    Pakistani Players doesn't deserve to be part of this years IPL as it was not BCCI but Pakistan government and PCB who decided that their players are not allowed to participate. Secondly, none of the other cricketing nations or foreign player to a stand that they'll not visit india for IPL, I'm sure if the tournament would have gone ahead and staged in India all of them would have come and played. It was Pakistans decision so they should stand by it. It was never a question of security of pakistani players but it was a tit for tat reaction by PCB for indian team not visiting Pakistan. If thats the attitude of PCB then so be it. No one is gonna miss any of the pakistani player as no one is use to seeing them in action for so long other than Pakistani fans. They should have opposed this idea of no IPL for Pakistani players as and when it surfaced.

  • vissu295 on March 23, 2009, 7:02 GMT

    Pakistan must support Pakistani players. That should have been the title of this article. IPL hasn't banned pak players from IPL. Now it's too late as the second year auction was over and there won't be room/money (because of cap) left to accommodate additional players.

  • Trimethoprim-Sulphamethoxazole on March 23, 2009, 6:53 GMT

    The Pakistani players cannot be readmitted because most of their contracts had been terminated by mutual consent. The teams who lost Pakistani players had entered the second auction to bid on players to replace the Pakistani cricketers (those who had contracts no more + those who had been banned from playing in the IPL by the Pakistani government/PCB). So now that the replacements have been brought in, why should the franchises take back the Pakistani players? Team compositions have already been decided on, money has been spent purchasing new players. Its too late. It also be kept in mind that the very same PCB that kept claiming that Pakistan was safe to tour had prevented their players from the IPL2 on the grounds that India wasn't a safe place. How ironic and hypocritical.

  • srivathsan on March 23, 2009, 6:40 GMT

    Dear Kamran, At the out set ,I will be happy if pak.players can play in IPL.But how is it possible? It was PAKGOVT which prohibited players from participation.After this ,the franchisee owners were permitted to bid for additional players in lieu of them. Now just because IPL is likely to move out ,how can them be accommodated ?The franchisee may not be able to carry even all the bid players. So I do not how It will happen. If that does not happen, no body can blame the IPL Or BCCI.Shifting the event is on account of Impending Election, though security is the cause of concern.

  • prakash on March 23, 2009, 6:23 GMT

    Kamran, PCB has stopped Pakistanis from playing IPL and not the otherway around... But if pakistanins are allowed to play only in this IPL and excluded from next IPL because of Permission issues from Pak Govt.( Hopefully it would be in India), its hypocritical...

  • Hrishikesh on March 23, 2009, 6:15 GMT

    Its not possible to allow pakistan players in at this point. When pak banned its players from playing in IPL, the franchise made other investments and purchased other players and all contracts for this season are now done. This has nothing to do with bias or politics.

  • Ajit on March 23, 2009, 6:06 GMT

    If I recall correctly, it was the Pakistani government which asked the PCB to withdraw its players from traveling to India for IPL, stating that it may not be safe for them.

  • Shubhang on March 23, 2009, 6:06 GMT

    This article is a joke, it's not researched at all. Neither the IPL nor the Indian government barred Pakistani players from playing in India, it was the Pakistani government which refused to allow them clearance. Which is why these players are suing the Pakistani government to recover losses.

  • Abhishek Chatterjee on March 23, 2009, 5:46 GMT

    I couldnt agree more. Now that the IPL will move out of India, Pakistan's players should be free to play in a non-India location. Should the Pak board and the IPL not be able to make this possible, this will be a great injustice indeed. The IPL, by its very nature is meant to bridge the national divides and here is a perfect opportunity for it to walk the talk. As Knight Riders fan, I will miss the heroics of Salman Butt and Umar Gul. Their absence will be a real pity.

  • Australia Rules on March 23, 2009, 5:42 GMT

    What a joke.......

  • Emad - USA on March 23, 2009, 4:59 GMT

    There was outrage and players boycotted a tennis tournament in Dubai because the UAE refused a visa to an Israeli player. How come there's silence when all Pakistani players are excluded from this league? Where's the needed separation of sports and politics now? I am surprised that sports journalists have not made a bigger issue out of this.

  • Agha Zain on March 23, 2009, 4:56 GMT

    Hi,

    The first thing that came to mind after reading that IPL would be relocated was that the intensity of the huge crowds in India would be missed dearly. The second thought, though, was that Pakistani players would be able to play IPL after a very hard 2 years for Pakistan Cricket. It is very shocking to hear that Lalit Modi has said that no Pakistani players will be allowed to play. Why is that? Now that the security of Pakistani players is not an issue, why can't the teams announce their squads and include Pakistani players too?

    Agha Zain

  • Sandeep on March 23, 2009, 4:42 GMT

    I think Pakistani cricketers should be allowed to play. There could have been concerns with them coming to India given the recent incidents, but since IPL is now being moved out, they should be allowed to play. But I doubt that it will happen.

  • Deepa on March 23, 2009, 4:31 GMT

    Forgive me if I have interpreted this post incorrectly but I thought the IPL was being moved away from India due to the clash with the General Elections and issues of providing security to all players. But if there wasn't a General Election this year, we would still have the IPL in India, terrorism notwithstanding.

    WRT the IPL reinstating Pakistani players - wasn't it the Pakistani Government that refused to allow them to play in the IPL? I don't think the IPL would have had any issues with them playing so the question of the IPL reinstating Pakistani players does not arise.

  • rr on March 23, 2009, 4:03 GMT

    It was the Pakistani government that refused the players permission to play in the IPL. You speak as if the IPL is entitled to allowing them in. Tut, tut, some hubris that, mate!

  • balaaji on March 23, 2009, 3:57 GMT

    sir,i was under the impression that the pcb had stopped the players from touring india.

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  • balaaji on March 23, 2009, 3:57 GMT

    sir,i was under the impression that the pcb had stopped the players from touring india.

  • rr on March 23, 2009, 4:03 GMT

    It was the Pakistani government that refused the players permission to play in the IPL. You speak as if the IPL is entitled to allowing them in. Tut, tut, some hubris that, mate!

  • Deepa on March 23, 2009, 4:31 GMT

    Forgive me if I have interpreted this post incorrectly but I thought the IPL was being moved away from India due to the clash with the General Elections and issues of providing security to all players. But if there wasn't a General Election this year, we would still have the IPL in India, terrorism notwithstanding.

    WRT the IPL reinstating Pakistani players - wasn't it the Pakistani Government that refused to allow them to play in the IPL? I don't think the IPL would have had any issues with them playing so the question of the IPL reinstating Pakistani players does not arise.

  • Sandeep on March 23, 2009, 4:42 GMT

    I think Pakistani cricketers should be allowed to play. There could have been concerns with them coming to India given the recent incidents, but since IPL is now being moved out, they should be allowed to play. But I doubt that it will happen.

  • Agha Zain on March 23, 2009, 4:56 GMT

    Hi,

    The first thing that came to mind after reading that IPL would be relocated was that the intensity of the huge crowds in India would be missed dearly. The second thought, though, was that Pakistani players would be able to play IPL after a very hard 2 years for Pakistan Cricket. It is very shocking to hear that Lalit Modi has said that no Pakistani players will be allowed to play. Why is that? Now that the security of Pakistani players is not an issue, why can't the teams announce their squads and include Pakistani players too?

    Agha Zain

  • Emad - USA on March 23, 2009, 4:59 GMT

    There was outrage and players boycotted a tennis tournament in Dubai because the UAE refused a visa to an Israeli player. How come there's silence when all Pakistani players are excluded from this league? Where's the needed separation of sports and politics now? I am surprised that sports journalists have not made a bigger issue out of this.

  • Australia Rules on March 23, 2009, 5:42 GMT

    What a joke.......

  • Abhishek Chatterjee on March 23, 2009, 5:46 GMT

    I couldnt agree more. Now that the IPL will move out of India, Pakistan's players should be free to play in a non-India location. Should the Pak board and the IPL not be able to make this possible, this will be a great injustice indeed. The IPL, by its very nature is meant to bridge the national divides and here is a perfect opportunity for it to walk the talk. As Knight Riders fan, I will miss the heroics of Salman Butt and Umar Gul. Their absence will be a real pity.

  • Shubhang on March 23, 2009, 6:06 GMT

    This article is a joke, it's not researched at all. Neither the IPL nor the Indian government barred Pakistani players from playing in India, it was the Pakistani government which refused to allow them clearance. Which is why these players are suing the Pakistani government to recover losses.

  • Ajit on March 23, 2009, 6:06 GMT

    If I recall correctly, it was the Pakistani government which asked the PCB to withdraw its players from traveling to India for IPL, stating that it may not be safe for them.