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Where are the 'Champions' in Champions League?

This league might be a bit of fun and showcase a host of big names, but the organisational process could be revisited

Firdose Moonda

October 12, 2012

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Priyanka Chopra hands Harbhajan Singh the Man-of-the-Match cheque, Mumbai Indians v RCB, CLT20 final, Chennai, October 9, 2011
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On face value, it is very difficult to take the Champions League T20 seriously.

It is not, as its name suggests, a competition of winners. After all, the second, third and fourth placed teams in a league of nine are participating along with the runners-up of some tournaments and victors of others.

Beyond the format, there are other oddities. The opening concert will be headlined by a person who calls himself DJ Earworm, a mash up artist. For those who don't know that does not involve potatoes but mixing of sounds to form what the Billboard 100 charts say is very popular music. What that has to do with cricket is as much as cheerleaders and fireworks. So, in other words, a lot.

Let's not bemoan that cricket is not simply cricket anymore because it has been taken over by side shows. We've known that for a while and secretly a lot of us like it because it is, even if it is just a little, fun. Who doesn't like a bit of dancing in between regular life? In the middle of all the fun, we could forget about the real issues that surround a tournament like this.

The imbalanced nature of the competition is its greatest flaw. With four IPL teams, two South African franchises and two Australian gaining automatic entry into the event, the rest are right to feel a little left out. Of the remaining Full Member countries, two - Zimbabwe and Bangladesh - were not even invited to qualify while the other five were give two spots to fight over. Even those were not evenly handed out as England were allowed two teams in qualifying while Pakistan, New Zealand and Sri Lanka were only permitted one each.

The result is a main event that just does not seem fair. If the marketing says the competition will be played between champions, why are so many absent?

The answer lies where so many other answers do: in money. When a novel concept like the CLT20 was mooted, its intentions must have been to play a real league of champions. The boards of India, South Africa and Australia quickly realised the only way they could make money out of it would be if more Indian teams were involved to appeal to larger Indian audience, who the advertisers pay to target.

That economic law of supply and demand was enough to steer the course of the entire tournament. Because more Indian teams need to be involved, fewer other teams can participate to avoid the event becoming much longer. Because South Africa and Australia are shareholders, they needed to see some benefit other than having a stake in it, so they get two teams. Because everyone else is not part of the administration of the tournament, they get what's left over.

Surely then some concoction of a tournament name like the 'Ind-SA-Aus T20 with invited guests' would be more appropriate and more honest. It would settle the question about who really owns the competition, who benefits from it and who dictates terms. It would be a private event and no-one would have any right to complain about it.

Such a neat solution is not possible though, because the ICC endorses the CLT20 in its current form. Why else would they permit a window for it in every year on the FTP? No other multi-team tournament that is not a World Cup (even the Champions Trophy is at an end) and certainly no other domestic event has this right. The game's governing body has rubber stamped the CLT20 and that would give it little reason to alter its composition in future.

Perhaps ICC involvement could make a difference in future, if it assumes some governing rights over the CLT20. Take UEFA's Champions League, which the CLT20 is often compared with, as an example. First of all, note that the top three leagues in Europe are allowed to enter four teams into the event, while some of the other countries are not even given a spot, so even the footballing equivalent is skewed.

Surely then some concoction of a tournament name like the 'Ind-SA-Aus T20 with invited guests' would be more appropriate and more honest. It would be a private event and no-one would have any right to complain about it.

The difference is that the system used in European Football is based on rankings, not ownership of an event. UEFA use a footballing coefficient to determine which leagues are placed where on the rankings system. The coefficient takes into account how the clubs from each country have performed in previous Champions Leagues, so those who have done better in the past have more spots in the future.

A system like that would ensure that Trinidad and Tobago are rewarded for reaching the 2009 final and could even see a team like the Sialkot Stallions get some recognition for holding the world record for the most consecutive wins in the 20-overs format. It would mean that money does not control the entire organisation of the event, as it does now.

Even moving the tournament to South Africa was, to some extent, driven by money. A Pakistan team could probably not have toured India with the current tensions, and religious festivals across the country would have made it difficult to host at certain venues. Instead, South Africa, default hosts for everything from the African Nations' Cup that was due to be held in Libya to a Champions Trophy once destined for Pakistan, were asked to step in so money that would be made from this year's CLT20 is not lost.

CSA itself will not make much more money from the event. They will receive the same shareholding as usual and will have to pay the hosting fees to stadiums out of that cash. It could result in them getting less money. Additional income will stem from hotel, airline and restaurant revenue as a large number of people descend on the country for the showpiece.

Make no mistake that it will be a showpiece. Despite the administrative issues, the tournament remains a home to some of the world's best players. Almost every big-name player, be it in the 20-overs format or not, is participating. World T20 Man-of-the-Series Shane Watson will turn out for Sydney, Sunil Narine and Kieron Pollard will play for their respective IPL sides, exciting prospects like Chris Morris of the Lions, Gary Ballance of Yorkshire and Shahbaz Nadeem of Delhi will be able to make names for themselves.

But even on the playing side, there is an strangeness. The player whose name is almost permanently aligned to a T20 competition, Chris Gayle, is absent. Gayle has played in every 20-overs competition besides New Zealand's and England's (he played for Worcestershire but not in the shortest format). Remarkably, none of the teams he represented made it to the main draw of the tournament.

Gayle was due to play for Uva Next in the SLPL but had to withdraw because of injury, meaning even if they had got past the qualifiers, he would not have been in their squad. His absence is so extraordinary that Mahela Jayawardene, who will captain Delhi, was even able to crack a joke about it. "Obviously Chris has set standards and he will be missed," he said. "But he has to lift his game and try and bring one of his teams to CLT20 next year."

Now that is something to take pretty seriously indeed.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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Posted by   on (October 15, 2012, 19:14 GMT)

LOL now what happened for these already qualified team? Already Chennai, Mumbai and Defending champion of IPL KKR today lost to Aukland who made their way to champions league after playing qualifying stages.

Posted by Boxilla on (October 15, 2012, 9:24 GMT)

Absolutely agree with everyone who calls this 'Champions' League a farce! It is! All the Champions of their respective country's tournament should AUTOMATICALLY be entered into the competition with the three countries who help to fund it allowed to enter two each (both teams that make it to their final). Nobody should have to qualify for it at all. It's all to do with money, money, money. I for one won't be watching it as Trinidad and Tobago didn't 'qualify' even though they are an extremely popular side and are the Champions of the Caribbean for 2012. What a joke!

Posted by Qadeer_Dayo on (October 15, 2012, 5:32 GMT)

@Jith-Blore: It is not football, we are talking about cricket, and what are those standards?? any body defined these "so called" standards & wt were criteria for sending the teams in qualifying round????????????????

Posted by   on (October 14, 2012, 8:04 GMT)

What a "champions league"? Many persons are referring UEFA champions-league for 4 IPL team in CLT20. Out of 32 teams of UEFA champions league, 3-4 from Spanish, 4-5 from English premier league, 2 each from Germany, France, Italy get to main tournament. But in CLT20 ,out of 10 qualified teams 8 teams belong to 3 countries. Joke. More over there is no more qualifying round for qualified 32 teams. They equally compete in 4teamX8 groups. But it is not the case in CLT20.

Posted by rajattiwaari on (October 13, 2012, 13:40 GMT)

I think it's just ridiculous not to have TWO teams from PAK and SL,two countries so passionate about cricket. I think 3 IPL teams make sense , not more. 2 each from AUS,SA,PAK,SL,ENG and one from BANGLADESH. Although, i am pretty sure that its not going to happen.

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 12:37 GMT)

I don't think the people running this don't exactly know what a "Champions" league is and I think such a league should exist but have champions excluding Pakistan security reasons from India, Bangladesh, Australia, England, Sri Lanka, West Indies, New Zealand, South Africa, Zimbabwe, New Zealand, USA (future), Canada (future) and possibly from associate countries i.e. Ireland but one each though. As for current holders of previous edition well 50:50 on that one. I reckon ICC running this will be more sensible.

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 11:37 GMT)

Hmmm nice analysis... You can add another paragraph stating that a Test Cricket nation and the record keeper of most appearances in semis of any cricket format Pakistan was not even allowed to participate in first four additions just because of tension b/w India and Pakistan. This is a straight forward example of the matter that CLT20 is not an international league. It can be a league of rich cricket nations that funded this tournament or you can say a Domestic Tri-Nation Series.

Posted by Qadeer_Dayo on (October 13, 2012, 11:22 GMT)

Very valuable analysis. I was unaware about the qualifying round but after watching the format, am quite surprise and will agree with the comments that its all about money & to me it is Selective League not the champion's league.

Posted by Anee.. on (October 13, 2012, 11:21 GMT)

This is not 'Champions Trophy'... Champions from different leagues have to play qualifying matches and 3rd & 4th placed teams from India already qualified for the tournament. Does not think its fair....Its all about money..not cricket....

Posted by zubair678 on (October 13, 2012, 11:13 GMT) are absolutely right.we want to watch the champions are fighting for best.we are against the big band and also cheerleaders. we are there for watching cricket not for cheerleaders. zubair ahmed

Posted by G-Wyll on (October 13, 2012, 11:02 GMT)

Funny, i try and make my point without insulting anyone and it gets passed over. Ok, i'll keep it short then. This T20 'champions league' competition is absolute farce. Who seriously comes up with these ideas? Especially straight after a watchable T20 World Cup. Please false T20 bubble, burst already!!!

Posted by Jith_blore on (October 13, 2012, 10:42 GMT)

what is the big deal,,, same format is followed in football champions league as well. More teams are qualified from EPL, Laliga etc...It is based on the standard of players playing the league..

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 10:38 GMT)

it is TRI-SERIES between aus,ind and sa!!!!

Posted by Buckers410 on (October 13, 2012, 10:38 GMT)

should work on rankings. Top 6 t20 nations get 2 teams. Other 4 get 1. Easy.

Posted by test_cricket_is_real_cricket on (October 13, 2012, 10:37 GMT)

the only good thing about this tournament is that we'll get to see if sachin's reflexes have really slowed down in quality pace and bounce conditions and if he is fit enough to tour south africa in nov-dec 2013... i am pretty sure sachin will look to assess his international future based on this tournament...

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 10:29 GMT)

yes the word *Champions* should not be there. ICL Int cric leag

Posted by MMA1983 on (October 13, 2012, 10:21 GMT)

I agree with most of it, there is a big question about the transperency of the tournament draw, also influence of some over others, I think ICC shoud play its part to correct the matter as its not setting good example for the game's popularity,,,,

Posted by SanjivAwesome on (October 13, 2012, 10:16 GMT)

Presumably the author's opinion is supported by the 3 Boards.

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 10:16 GMT)

i love this tounment.but instead of 2 teams from aus,sa and 4 teams from india,all domestic t20 cricket teams has to be qualified ,and runner up should be kept in quailfying stage.this will give equal oppurtunity to all countries

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 10:08 GMT)

still better than WC .

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 10:07 GMT)

Excellent analysis, you have nailed the issue. ICC should Promote Cricket as game not as the interest of boards it represents.

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 10:07 GMT)

most ridiculous and useless tournament ever..empty stadiums prove this fact:O

Posted by indianzen on (October 13, 2012, 9:51 GMT)

World Cricket is not going in the right direction... too much of T20, turns cricket players into baseball players... ICC must do something to strictly make every team play atleast 20 tests and 50 ODIs a year...

Posted by SuperSharky on (October 13, 2012, 9:44 GMT)

I want to see club cricket. And all the clubs coming out of different leagues makes it more interesting. I know that India put the most money into the tournament and therefore they are allowed 4 teams, but I would also prefer just 2 teams from each league. And If Trinidad and Tabago had to fly all the way to South Africa, to realize after their first game, that they will not be able to compete in the tournament, than there should be a Shield competition (Like in 7's rugby) for the lesser teams like the Bangladesh league champion, Zimbabwe League champion, USA League champion, West indies, Pakistan & Sri Lanka league champion like Sialkot Staliions, Uva, Trinidad & Tobago. otherwise they should just take the name "champions" out of the tournament. The Shield games should be played just before the Cup games on the same pitch.

Posted by siddhartha87 on (October 13, 2012, 9:36 GMT)

this tournament is a joke!

Posted by SuperSharky on (October 13, 2012, 9:30 GMT)

No-way! I don't agree with this article. You can't expect to see traditional good cricket at a T20 match. Didn't you NOT know that? T20 from the start was created for television. And frankly, I prefer it to stay that way. I love my dancing cheerleaders and 6's, 4'rs and wickets in a rush. And there is nothing wrong with the fireworks, except that it isn't environmental friendly. Champions like , Kieron Pollard, was created at the Champions League. Not a lot of people knew that champion before the Champions League. I've seen my World Cup with stars just the other day. Now I want to see normal cricketers get a chance to become a champion, like Kieron Pollard did. There is a certain different pride in club cricket. It's more about your club than the players. I like the change in variation from the last world cup. I love my Test cricket and my ODI. There you'll see REAL cricket. But please don't minimize my love for the T20 Champions League Show, just because you want to see stars.

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 9:26 GMT)

I am from India and i hate this tournament

Posted by ozwriter on (October 13, 2012, 9:24 GMT)

maybe the ICC can read this article and come up with its only solution. ICC's own independant champions league with the champion team from each test playing country playing! ditch this rubbish nonsense of a 'tournament'

Posted by ozwriter on (October 13, 2012, 9:20 GMT)

honest article, great read. one of the best on this site!

Posted by karths on (October 13, 2012, 9:13 GMT)

Instead of whining why dont you boycott CLT20 and form your own league comprising teams only from SLPL,BPL,PPL and England.You can call it TRCLT20(The Real Champions League).Surely that will be more popular,or would it?

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 9:13 GMT)

Absurd... Champions or no champions, yet we watch it. Mostly as a time pass.

Posted by Sautrik on (October 13, 2012, 9:05 GMT)

Being Indian, I DO NOT want to see 4 IPL teams in the CHampions League.... Apart from KKR, no IPL team should have been allowed free entry...

Posted by Winsome on (October 13, 2012, 8:47 GMT)

I don't think there are any questions unanswered. It is an exhibition tournament and mostly owned by the three franchises. Surely the fans have always known that? It can't be at the same level of importance as a genuine international tournament or even a domestic T20 tournament for the fans even if the players and boards want all the money that goes along with participation. It's a bit of fun, nothing wrong with that.

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 8:46 GMT)

No Sialkot Staliions, no Uva next, no Trinidad & Tobago. The champions teams from champion countries of T20. What is this? This CLt20 is tasteless to be honest, very bad.

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 8:11 GMT)

Ridiculous tournament. Waste of time. T20 is destroying true test cricket, especially with random and meaningless tournaments such as this one. Bring back traditional cricket!

Posted by M_Rakibul_Islam on (October 13, 2012, 8:05 GMT)

There's an EASY solution to this problem. I'm not sure whether most of the fans agree with me or not, but it'll b handy to avoid controversies. Let's consider 16 teams 4m all 10 full members (2 more franchisees from ZIM & BD). Put them in 4 different groups (A,B,C,D). No need to organize 6 qualifying matches. There will b 6 matches in each group. A total of 24 group matches can b held within 12 days. Then group champs & runner-ups will clash into Quarter Finals, then Semis & Final matches can b held. It'll take maiximum 8 more days to finish 7 knock-out matches. 20 days will b required to finish CLT20. Currently it's a 14 teams tournament 4m 8 nations but only 8 teams 4m 3 owner nations r qualified directly. Rest 6 teams 4m 5 nations need to face qualification stage. So my proposed model will avoid this discrimination as well as ZIM & BD will get a chance. Finally there will b 31 games instead of 29 games now (with qualifier), but 20 days r required like this edition.

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 7:56 GMT)

Every test playing nation (including Ban and Zim) should have a spot, at least in qualifying matches. Champions of first few teams like Aus, SA, Pak, SL, NZ, WI, ENG should play group matches directly and runner-up from them (e.g. Aus, SA) may be given chance to play qualifiers. Two IPL teams can go to group matches directly and two IPL teams may play qualifiers. This way this tournament may become more attractive.

Posted by LiamF on (October 13, 2012, 7:49 GMT)

@Ajeet Buch - This is not just a BCCI tournament, they run it jointly with the Australian and SA boards. There is NO reason for there to be 4 IPL teams. If I want to watch 4 IPL teams play, I'll watch the IPL! If Australia, South Africa and India want 2 teams each, fine, as those 3 boards came up with the concept. But all other major teams including Bangladesh and Zimbabwe should have their championship winning team there (if available, unfortunately the counties wont be next year) AND the leading associate or affilliate team should be there too. 3 IPL teams was pushing it but the forth IPL team has NO right to be there. How does coming 4th in the IPL make you a "champion"? Get rid of the 4th IPL team and bring in a team that actually deserves to be there.

Posted by anton1234 on (October 13, 2012, 7:46 GMT)

CLT20 is completely unnecessary. Please get rid of this tournament. We already have Big Bash League in Australia, the T20 competition in England, and other places around the world and there is a now one starting in America next summer which could become the best of the lot. Why on earth have CLT20 when the cricketing schedule is already so packed?

Posted by JG2704 on (October 13, 2012, 7:13 GMT)

As someone who follows football , I am used to champions of smaller countries having to qualify. I remember Gary Neville saying that It should only be the champions of each country qualifying for the football CL and then on realising that once when Man U won the CL they did so after not winning the English league he said "and maybe the runners up too"

Posted by mamboman on (October 13, 2012, 7:12 GMT)

It's 20/20. We care what about this?

Posted by JG2704 on (October 13, 2012, 7:10 GMT)

@Gizza on (October 13 2012, 00:55 AM GMT) Half right there. CL in football isn't totally financially based but certain teams who qualified - Man City being a fine example - would not have done so well in their domestic leagues in the 1st place. In many ways the cricket league mirrors the football version although in football you have several countries who have the financial clout to build teams who can contend for the trophy. In cricket there seems to be just 1. Another point is that players just play for one club so you wouldn't get Ronaldo or Messi playing for Real and Barcelona and also Man U and Man City. I think most neutrals are sad that Pollard,Dwayne and Narine are not playing for the club which brought them into the game

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 7:01 GMT)

If BCCI, CA and South African Cricket board want to have more of their teams, then why they asked for a window in ICC FTP. Only one team from Pak, NZ, WI, SL was playing and that too in qualifying stages, but they cant have any international cricket during this time because of the window. If the 3 organizing board want more of their team, then the remaining countries should be having international matches. Why their international schedule is affected by these 3 boards. Either give full chance to other countries or remove the window for champions league.

Posted by trueanalyst on (October 13, 2012, 6:57 GMT)

Did anybody see the quality of UVA,Hampshire etc.Except T&T & Auckland & Yorkshire other teams do not have the quality of IPL teams.Remember IPL teams have got the best talent in the world.Only Change can be deletion of one IPL team and inclusion of a champion team from WI & Pakistan.Rest can Qualify.

Posted by AsifMaqbool on (October 13, 2012, 6:46 GMT)

I feel it is a tournament organized by Indians and they have every right to invite whom they like. For teams from Srilanka, Nz, Pakistan, England, It is really disgraceful as they are playing qualification stage. some of these teams are better than those that playing at group stage. But this is obviously their own choice. We should enjoy cricket.

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 6:39 GMT)

We should not forget that this is a BCCI tournament and therefore there will be more Indian teams. However I think ICC should have a tournament were top T20 club teams of all test playing or member nations are invited.

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 6:29 GMT)

CLT20 should be renamed CLFT20 ( CL Founders T20).

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 6:29 GMT)

i agree with it.poor format .10 teams from only 5 counteries

Posted by dnarmstrong on (October 13, 2012, 5:17 GMT)

The champions league for soccer in Europe is a similar structure, and I don't hear too many people moaning about the inequities every year that the same teams are fighting it out in the semis. Those who don't like it don't have to watch - I can't wait for it to start, myself.

Posted by Shubham18 on (October 13, 2012, 4:57 GMT)

I think BCCI, CA, CSA should try to develop cricket to a better level, like football leagues where you have 100's of players enough to have international level players in domestic leagues of many countries at a time.

Instead of having just 10 teams for the main tournament, they can have 5 groups of 3 teams each. They could have 4 IPL teams, 2 teams from AUS, SA and England and a team each from WI, SL, PAK, NZ, and a team comprising of best players from the associate nations to give them a chance to play high-quality cricket and develop. 1 out of 3 teams from each group will qualify for the next stage where these 5 teams will play each other once and the best two teams from the FAB FIVE will play the final.

This type of format will see the tournament being a genuine Champions League though it would increase the number of matches from 23 to 26. It would mean that the top teams would need to up their level of play and be consistant in order to win and that also like a true champion.

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 4:55 GMT)

if its about investing money thn Ind,CSA,Aus shud make it a tri series thn..they shud include only thr domestic is kinda of rubbish thing tht besides the winners,runners up have also qualified fer CLT20..I wud rather call it APNIMERZI KI CLT20..someone said tht more ipl teams more fun thn open a window fer 2 IPLs in a year by modifying the FTP!!

Posted by fineprint on (October 13, 2012, 4:55 GMT)

the BEST players get paid the MOST. Most of those who are getting the MOST are here in the tournament. Money is the measurer of how good you are, those who have a problem with that need to introspect where the problem actually is.

Posted by KP_84 on (October 13, 2012, 4:39 GMT)

The absence of English teams from next year onwards will leave a couple of spots in the qualiers vacant. I hope one of them is given the the BPL - I can't understand why Bangladesh doesn't have a spot already. As for the other vacant spot, India, South Africa and Australia already have more than their fair share of teams in the event, so it should go to one of West Indies, Sri Lanka or New Zealand. As suggested by Moonda in the article above, this could be determined by performance in the previous year's CLT20. In this case, New Zealand will get a second team in the qualifiers for next year's CLT20. Also the qualification process should be at least double round robin. As it is now, the qualifiers are a bit of a lottery.

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 4:26 GMT)

Well said, 'Ind-SA-Aus T20 with invited guests' is the correct title of this league.

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 4:06 GMT)

A TRI-SERIES Champions leauge, from and for team India, Australia and South Africa

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 3:32 GMT)

Having 4 teams from the IPL is way too much bias in IPL's favor. Ideally, there should, at most, be 2 teams from any country: the toppers from India, Australia, SA and England gaining direct entry into the main draw and the toppers from the other nations (SL, Pakistan, NZ, WI, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe) playing off against the runners up from these larger nations in the qualification round.

Posted by Mervo on (October 13, 2012, 3:21 GMT)

Yet another slog fest. I suggest that countries have second string teams for these so that test cricket is not disturbed. Tests are after all the enduring history of the game in the records. The rest are window dressing and forgotten a week later.

Posted by subrops on (October 13, 2012, 3:12 GMT)

For the people who are moaning about their teams not being included there are 3 points 1) This is not an ICC tournament 2) This is an event organised by the BCCI, CA and CSA who are investing their money into it. 3) If you dont like it then dont watch it and ask your teams not to accept the invitation when invited to participate.

Just pay the money and organise a tournament for yourselves.

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 3:02 GMT)

Champions league is a TRI-SERIES from teams in India, Australia and South Africa according to my opinion

Posted by   on (October 13, 2012, 2:55 GMT)


SCCCCCCORCHERS FROM PERTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Aussie_Cricket on (October 13, 2012, 1:42 GMT)

Same lot of this article seems to state the obvious. Why would the league include Bangladesh and Zimbabwe? They don't contribute value vs the opportunities that including other leagues would provide.

Posted by I-Like-Cricket on (October 13, 2012, 1:27 GMT)

I completely agree with the name issue. If it's not a league of champions then you cannot call it a "Champions League". That being said I know personally I would much rather go watch the tournament as it is now than if you simply took the champions from each countries tournament. I'm not even sure who won the BPL because there wasn't enough big players in that tournament for me to bother to follow. The IPL however I watched quite closely (even though I'm in Australia and had to stay up late every now and then) because of all the big names. All that being said, I think the tournament is pretty much pointless with all of the domestic T20s going on plus the wrold T20 happening so often. I'd much rather see the Australian and South African players at home, gaining some form in the longer form of the game.

Posted by Gizza on (October 13, 2012, 0:55 GMT)

Even the football Champions League is financially based. Yes it is true better teams and better leagues are rewarded with more spots but the better teams are nearly always the richer teams (Manchester City could never ever qualify before the oil rich Mansour bought the club). It is just more indirect. And even here T&T weren't as good this time because their best players are with the IPL teams. In that sense the problem of money/imbalance of strength of teams persists in most professional international sports. The one thing I believe should and something which realistically can happen is to give a small participation award to the teams who entered into the qualification round. Playing two games is a bit hopeless but it is even worse they get zilch for coming all the way. Maybe $100,000 for the team is reasonable. Also the gap between IPL and non-IPL teams is closing since more international players are representing Big Bash, county, NZ, SL, South African teams, etc.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 23:38 GMT)

@Syed First learn to beat the kids in WT20

Posted by Anneeq on (October 12, 2012, 23:17 GMT)

The Champions League is a fail, because there is simply not a good enough domestic structure in place in enough countries. People seem to get very excited by the IPL, it just seems far too plastic to me, more of a circus show than a real sporting event. It doesnt have the same passion and intensity that premier league football matches have. The teams arent representative of their respective cities, and with all the interviews in English and all the cheerleaders it doesnt have a natural/genuine Indian feel to it.....

Posted by o_close on (October 12, 2012, 23:13 GMT)

@Gokul Maestro: I am sorry I had not heard the news that Dani Alves (Brazil), Alex Song (Cameroon) and Alexis Sanchez (Chile) had migrated to Spain and played for them in the World Cup and Euro Championships. As they have not that makes 5 (incuding Messi and Mascherano) of the starting 11 in their last Champions League match (against Benfica) non spanish players. Please check your facts first.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 23:02 GMT)

Well, 2nd paragraph of this article itself says all about CLT20

It is not, as its name suggests, a competition of winners. After all, the second, third and fourth placed teams in a league of nine are participating along with the runners-up of some tournaments and victors of others

Its not a fair selection of teams for a tournament which is called T20 champions league, and organized by ICC help. Just take winners from each country and then you would see who is the strongest.

Posted by amemberoftheelect23 on (October 12, 2012, 22:49 GMT)

Just about the second best article ever!!!!! just minor error that i wont hold against u. "Even those were not evenly handed out as England were allowed two teams in qualifying while Pakistan, New Zealand and Sri Lanka were only permitted one each." - u forgot mention that West Indies only got one entry too. but apart from that everything else was right on the money! (pun intended!). Was thinking and saying almost word for word that which u expressed. Absolutely WELL DONE!!!!! GREAT ARTICLE!!!!!

Posted by Suryawanshi_ on (October 12, 2012, 22:41 GMT)

It will be good to watch this championship. Dont watch if you think this Championship is joke or not fair, there are many who will watch and will be entertained. More IPL team means better quality of matches as the matches will be competitive... else its like the group stage of just concluded T20, the lesser teams will only waste precious time and make no sense.

Go Delhi..!!

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 22:34 GMT)

a very good read.. a honest article.. hope Firdose Moonda's career is not in danger now

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 22:23 GMT)

@Vkarthik - At least Sialkot is playing all local players. If KKR, CSK or DD had to field just domestic Indian players, they would surely be owned by a high school team! Kids who can't make it to WT20 Semis for 3 consecutive years, should just be happy with their own toy - CLT20 .. LOL

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 22:21 GMT)

ICC should step in & bar player to play for just on league not like most of players are playing for IPL,BPL,SLPL,BIG BASH,CARIBEAN LAEGUE OR ENGLISH LEAGUE? Current format of player ownership like street cricket today a player is playing for one club street & tomorrow for another ???

Posted by pak78 on (October 12, 2012, 22:16 GMT)

total joke of a tournement, domestic champions should get into the main event.

Posted by MRHARS on (October 12, 2012, 22:14 GMT)

The article infers that the UEFA champions league reserves places for the biggest league and ignores others,this is incorrect all places are determined by there coefficient rating - how well teams from that nation have performed over the last five years, obviously the bigger leagues hire the better players BUT places are decided by success on the field of play. For the cricket Champions league to be taken seriously outside the stakeholder countries and become a truly global event it must adopt this strategy,because of qualification and non-entries the stakeholder nations would currently have a much higher rating then the others and their places would only be lost through consistent failure on the field of play. My suggestion would be 16 teams:top two nations 3 places,next two 2 places,other six 1 place each

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 22:10 GMT)

o_close: The Barcelona team contains of almost all the Spanish World Cup and Euro 2012 winners. Only Messi & Mascherano are their non-Spanish players.

Posted by ahtriniting on (October 12, 2012, 21:59 GMT)

THIS IS NOT A CHAMPIONS LEAGUE. We have teams winning their tournament and still having to qualify to play against 2nd, 3rd & 4th place teams. It is poorly named. The teams that should be allowed to participate should only be the winners of their respective tournament thus allowing all test playing country and some of the ICC associates a chance to play. Be fair to everyone.

Posted by o_close on (October 12, 2012, 21:38 GMT)

@Krishnan Veeraraghavan: Pollard, Narine and Bravo chose their teams. And T&T benifited financially from them playing for IPL teams. As you will find in any good football/ soccer league - there are players from different countries. Get Real; do you think ManU, ManCity, Real Madrid or Barcelona could be what they are with only English or Spanish players.

Posted by Vkarthik on (October 12, 2012, 21:36 GMT)

Sialkot who.. any team whose main batsmen are Nazir and Malik can only be considered as a mediocre team at best. Who did they beat 25 times in a row. High school team? They got owned by a club team from NZ. Precisely 2 players. That's all it took them.

Posted by cheesemethod on (October 12, 2012, 21:35 GMT)

Well said. The whole thing is a joke. These t20 tornys take up valuable time for real international tours so it needs to be done right. 3 options A. Pick only the winner from each country. If this is an odd number then a wildcard goes to a runnerup who came closest to winning in their final B. pick the 2 finalists from each country C. Have the champions league every 2 years and the 2 winners from each year from each counrty get to join.

Option a, more games, the best teams, a better torny which has more meaning.

Posted by o_close on (October 12, 2012, 21:32 GMT)

@ Zubair Khan: That may be because of the strength of Sialkot Stallions or the weakness of other teams in the T20 league in Pakistan. As they lost to to Auckland by 6 wickets with 17 balls to spare, they cannot be that strong. And if you argue that any team can lose to another in T20 - well then SS should have lost to some other team in Pakistan if any of the others were of any standard.

Posted by dulabhai on (October 12, 2012, 21:28 GMT)

@ jelly_bean..seriously i've never watched this tournament...and i have no intention to watch it in the future..may be i'll read couple of articles here and there on my day off...but i really don't give a banana about this tournament..

Posted by EddieKhan on (October 12, 2012, 21:21 GMT)

Great work..Thanks for cricinfo team for putting such brilliant article on main.Really love reading each word of it.Excellent work Moonda!!!Appreciate your effort towards cricket betterment

Posted by thekobra on (October 12, 2012, 21:14 GMT)

The fact is it isnt an ICC event. Its a CA-BCCI-CSA event. A purely commercial event. If you dont like it, do not partake in it. Simple as that. I am sure all the other countries will whinge and whinge but will surely be part of qualification round, bar England bless them, next year.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 21:12 GMT)

all other nations should boycott the event and let ind-aus-sa have some practice and fun so next time they can do good in an icc t20 event ;)

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 21:00 GMT)

This competition is a joke not only for its format, but how can you have say Azhar Mahmood playing for Kent and then playing for another team...! Same goes for Trinidad and Tobago who have Keiron Pollard playing for them yet he represents the Mumbai Indians...! This is the reason why I don't watch it...! Imagine the same happening in football...! BIG JOKE...!

Posted by s382412 on (October 12, 2012, 20:50 GMT)

Great article.... its also a fact that huge viewership from India and off course the Vitamin M generates simply because of involvement of IPL teams. But if the cricket needs to be Globalize than some measurements to be taken....

Posted by StevieS on (October 12, 2012, 20:39 GMT)

I believe in the next 20/20 world cup India, South Africa and Australia should have to qualify and the winner gets to play as its obvious from the cup just past that neither of them were up to international standards.

Posted by JG2704 on (October 12, 2012, 20:32 GMT)

I don't have a big opinion on this. What I do think is that maybe just 2 IPL sides (MI and KKR) as CLT20/IPL champs respectively should automatically go through and the other IPL sides should be made to qualify along with the rest. Maybe have one group where the top 4 qualify or 2 groups where the top 2 of each group qualify. That way it doesn't mean a team is out after their 1st defeat meaning the next game is pointless. In football some countries have 4 teams qualify for the CL and often it has not been the champions who wins it - this year Chelsea. Mind you in football they want to stretch it out for the season whereas in cricket they can't really do that because of different countries/continents having different seasons etc.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 20:27 GMT)

Nice article. I've long thought the even footy CL should be a true tournament of champions. Include the FA cup winners etc. Think outside the box; like cricket should do here. These faceless heads of powerful boards should think about providing true entertainment. Not merely for the sake of hard currency, which is to the detriment of big tournaments!

Posted by Ajayvs on (October 12, 2012, 20:23 GMT)

I absolutely agree with the spirit of the article. Having 4 IPL teams is a bit of overkill.Given the fact that IPL teams attract better foreign talent than other leagues, may be it would be ok to have 1 team in the main group and and 2 in the qualifier.Having all 4 IPL teams in the main draw along with 2 teams from SA and Aus straight away is a bit unfair and counter productive if the tournament wants to be a global draw.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 20:19 GMT)

Someone please take the keyboard away from this lady. If you call some teams champions, ask them to compete with the second, third and fourth placed teams in the IPL teams, and the result would be plainly obvious.

Posted by Shahsa on (October 12, 2012, 19:59 GMT)

True say Moonda. They should have champions from each country for sure because this is the name of the tournament stands for.

Posted by johnathonjosephs on (October 12, 2012, 19:39 GMT)

Wrong. Even though India has one team in the World Cup, Indian fans still watch it. 4 Teams won't change anything except make it another IPL repeat. Make 2 teams from IPL, put a third in the qualifier round and allow Sri lanka, Pakistan, England, West Indies, and NZ to qualify nonetheless. Put a second team of all the countries + third team of IPL in the qualifier round and watch the fireworks spark

Posted by wolfofthepack on (October 12, 2012, 19:30 GMT)

" N.V.Prashanth" as i agree with you that is understanable but as the writers says its name says 'champions" but wateva if the other nations continue to lower themselves and particapte who r we to complain? the only nation to show a stance so far is england announcing that this is their last yr!

Posted by Haleos on (October 12, 2012, 19:28 GMT)

@Talal Tahir - Dont hate something because your team did not qualify. They are a great team and hopefully the organisers will have some sense and change the format. Whats with fans like you. You start hating anything Indian as soon as ur teams get kciked out.

Posted by Haleos on (October 12, 2012, 19:26 GMT)

It would be great to include all the winners and finalists in CLT20 rather than having silly qualifying matches. That way we will know who the real champions are. 4 IPL teams is an overkill and not fair. Would have love to see Sialkot play against one of the IPL teams. They are superb in the local tournaments and would have been given great oppurtunity to showcase the talent. Now after one bad day they are out. Same with the other champions from SL.

Posted by sl_blood on (October 12, 2012, 19:24 GMT)

great article..wish sumone from the icc took the time to read it and make the necessary amendments...its just a boring ipl with two teams from south africa and australia.....

Posted by Aaryabhatta on (October 12, 2012, 18:57 GMT)

We love it...n dun wrry u all switch off

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 18:52 GMT)

why pakistan have not got place direct in tournament???or atleast they would have got 4-5 matches to qualify.They lost first match becaues they were not used to conditions and they had not played any warm-up match.So it was very unfair with pakistan's team(sialkot stalions).......WE HATE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 18:46 GMT)

its not champions league...but its IND,AUS,SA, champions league!!!!!

Posted by Stark62 on (October 12, 2012, 18:38 GMT)

I've not watched this event (for obvious reasons) and I'm certainly not going to start now!!

Posted by Dhutugemunu on (October 12, 2012, 18:37 GMT)

Since they really want to include 4 teams from India, 2 from SA and 2 from Australia they should change the format. Make it 4 groups in round robin stage. Group A - (India 1, Aus 1, Eng 1, WI) Group B - (India 2, SA 1, NZ, Ban) Group C - (India 3, Aus 2, Eng 2, Pak) Group D - (India 4, SA 2, SL, Zim). Winners of each group make it to the Semi finals, then finals. This will be more interesting since clubs from all the test playing nations are having a chance at the global level. BTW this T20 cricket is too much and it is ruining the beauty of real Cricket (Test).

Posted by Sinhaya on (October 12, 2012, 18:29 GMT)

@Sulaimaan91, you are spot on right!

Posted by Sinhaya on (October 12, 2012, 18:27 GMT)

This tournament is really meaningless.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 18:22 GMT)

For me this is a very interesting tournament, where I could see how some of the best teams in IPL are doing against best from other countries.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 18:21 GMT)

@ O_Close, Sialkot Stallions has not only won 25 matches in a row, but they have won 7 out of 8 domestic T/20 competitions in Pakistan!!! I dont think any other domestic team in the world holds such a high ratio of tournaments won.. 'CHAMPIONS LEAGUE' what does the name suggests??? but where are the champions??? Which teams are playing this tournament, 2 semifinalists from India and 2 finalists! what a joke...

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (October 12, 2012, 18:14 GMT)

Let's be clear here; the CLT20 is a wonderful tournament with a brilliant core concept. The major problem now is that it's stupid to have champions from WI, SL, PAK, NZ and ENG to play qualifiers when 4 of the IPL teams get straight pass into the main draw. Also, why do the SA and AUS teams have 2 teams each ? If it's about CHAMPIONS then there should ONLY be the winners from each of the nation and ONE BIG main draw where all champions participate on equal terms. That's a much fair tournament and a shorter one too. It would be much more popular and taken seriously by fans of these clubs. Right now, it does resemble a farce and even hardcore T20 fans like myself feel angry on seeing T&T, Sialkot etc going home after just 1 loss. Come on guys... bring some changes to this competition. Godspeed.

Posted by Hunbbel on (October 12, 2012, 18:13 GMT)

... and they said that DRS is unfair.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 18:12 GMT)

Totally agree with the writer,being an Indian myself I find it unfair that 4 IPL teams gain direct entry into the tournament,while many of the Champions of other T20 leagues have been left out.The whole concept of the tournament has become a farce.The South African Cricket board has welcomed 4 IPL teams to attract a larger Indian audience,which is solely for their monetary benefit.Its high time ICC does something about the CLT20.

Posted by Shuraim on (October 12, 2012, 18:07 GMT)

@ N.V.Prashanth: That's exactly the point i wanted to make but you got right before me. thanks and congratulations

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 17:56 GMT)

The simple fact is it cant be called a Champions League because only 4 Champions of their respective Countries (India, Australia, South Africa, Newzealand) are Playing while 6 teams are Runnerup or worse Further The Countries who Qualified for WT20 semis only one country team is playing in main draw. If ICC can give a window for it then it can certainly show reservations for its format as being biased

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 17:53 GMT)

gr8 article ever i read in cricinfo .... very true .... its a rusty tournament as my view.

Posted by ashok16 on (October 12, 2012, 17:53 GMT)

Two divergent thoughts: 1. This is like back in the day when playing street cricket, the fellow who has the bat will get to play on for an extra out. The rest would just gape at him. 2. You can call it the Champions league or Southern League or whatever. This is just a symptom of a shift in the cricketing world. The old order run by old money has now changed to new order run by new money. Nothing is free. Australia and SA have got the message. And as for India, it better make sure the money keeps flowing. Even a golden goose will die one day. So in balance, some balance is needed. Short term commercial needs cannot be the only guide.

Posted by wiseshah on (October 12, 2012, 17:51 GMT)

I think they should have all the champion club from each country, that means 10 team plus 2 additional team from IPL , that means 12 team --- only that way it justifies champions league but 4 th team from ipl is simply rubbish. If 4 th team is allowed whats wrong including other 3 ipl team like rajhthan, bangalore, pune.

Posted by karths on (October 12, 2012, 17:50 GMT)

@zan46 ICC cannot abolish it nor does it have any rights.It is a "private" tournament. Everyone here seems to have only one problem..that is the name "Champions" League. Now there is no rule that says it should include all champion teams from each country if you have the word 'Champions' in it,is there?

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 17:50 GMT)

absolutely ridiculous ! We are talking about champions league , name suggest it should have champions , It clearly avoids the 2 teams from regions Pakistan and srilanka , mind you these teams have played 4 icc wt20 and both have made it to 2 finals and two semi finals each in their 4 appearances ! these teams have been given 2 matches , winning both would qualify them , on the other hand india , which has made it to 1 icc wt20 final 1 time champion and no other performance in next 3 tournament gets 4 teams from its league! This is truely a case where people having resources play ignoring other nations who play even better then them , its a shame , i think a better competition would have groomed the players better. This tournament wont have my interest

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 17:46 GMT)

@o_close, in Baseball US plays to a standard that other countries do not play to. That's not the case here. A T&T team with Pollard, Narine and Bravo is much stronger than the IPL teams featured. They would've definitely got through had the players plated for T&T. ICC shouldn't be endorsing the event or atleast the name of the tournament should be changed.

Posted by enigma77543 on (October 12, 2012, 17:46 GMT)

Agree with N.V.Prashnth below, those who invest in something would naturally want to extract maximum benefit for themselves, & it holds true for CL20 too. People want to earn as much salary as they can, businesses want to make as much profit as they can, sports is no different - people who invest in it, do it to see returns on their investment. As much as the writer here talks of "fairness", will he be willing to put together a few millions every year to pay for a more "fair" tournament which may not get him the optimum returns on his investment? I don't particularly like CL20, probably wouldn't even have the time to watch every game, but the point is that we all somewhere down the line work to optimize our incomes so why expect organizers of CL20 to act any differently?

Posted by green_jelly on (October 12, 2012, 17:43 GMT)

@JohnChang who said "I was never interested in CLT20 and never will be. " - Gee, then I wonder why you took the time to read an article about CLT20 and then comment about it...

Posted by green_jelly on (October 12, 2012, 17:42 GMT)

People writhing in righteous indignation should pause for a moment and think. We want quality cricket, not equal representation. When it comes to international cricket, it is right to include some weaker nations in order to popularize cricket in these countries. The price paid in loss of quality is valid there. But CL T20 should be about the best, most popular and most followed teams. Otherwise it will become a farce with empty grounds and one sided matches.

Posted by OT12 on (October 12, 2012, 17:40 GMT)

There is a thing called Cricket and there is a thing called T20 and in T20 there are 2 good for nothing Tournament IPL and CL20 (I don't even wanna mention any other low quality tournament like BPL, SLPL big bash), they are making fun of cricket at a highest level and ICC is doing nothing, please stop all this bull shit with T20 and invest on proper cricket, couz of this T20 we don't have any quality fast bowlers coming. Bowlers like Cummins, Pattison, Junaid Khan, FInn, and many other will loose the quality, please ICC invest on real cricket that is TEST and some what ODI this T20 should be used in bits and peaces.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 17:39 GMT)

poor tournament i dnt wanted to watch it

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 17:35 GMT)

If the Dhaka Gladiators were allowed to represent Bangladesh as the BPL Champions, their foreign players would have included Afridi, Ajmal, Pollard, Imran Nazir, Rana Naved & Azhar Mahmood in addition to local players like Ashraful & Mashrafe - a team with these players deserves a place in the qualifiers at least!

Posted by batnpad on (October 12, 2012, 17:34 GMT)

N.V.Prashanth has hit the nail on the head. Any whiners, moaners and loosers would do well to read his post before any opinions. If you don't like it, don't watch it. No one is forcing you.

Posted by Cric299 on (October 12, 2012, 17:33 GMT)

I hate to disagree with this article and most of the people who commented. I don't know why so much criticism for just the name being Champions league, there so many leagues and championships around which claim as world championships or world cups even the ICC world cup can not be termed as world cup because not all countries of world are playing, so why not criticize that? American football champions are called World champions where as there is no single team participating from outside of America. I completely agree with the format of the qualifying matches being one of the worst possible format but I have no problem with the name being champions league. I can create a champions league within my city comprising of teams from different colleges. It is never possible to make justice to the name by including every little college in my city obviously.

Posted by karths on (October 12, 2012, 17:30 GMT)

completely agree with @jaanjaanPAKISTAN and @Rene Stoby... they didn't like it and are boycotting it.Everyone who feels that it is unfair should do the same instead of criticizing the organizers and BCCI

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 17:25 GMT)

all ipl teams includes best players in world and very competitive to each other. qualifier is like Adding two teams in t20 world cup or championsLeauge(remember Ireland beat England).Don't think and enjoy the show. All we want is entertainment.

Posted by Sharbigma on (October 12, 2012, 17:23 GMT)

Man pritanka looks hot, and for who, Harbhajan? Please, I wish I had followed my dream of being an all rounder.

Posted by Htc-Android on (October 12, 2012, 17:20 GMT)

So IPL-2012 SEASON 2 starts tommorow. This is not Champions league. Next year BCCI has decided to direct qualify all 10 IPL teams and ask other teams to play in the qualification round.

Posted by BangCricFan on (October 12, 2012, 17:15 GMT)

Very good and well written article. You just stole the words of general reader. Thanks Firdose Moonda..

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 17:13 GMT)

Champions league????? when it starts and when it ends don't even know even. I could've some interest if a team from bangladesh was there. So, no interest in CLT20.

Posted by ami_cric on (October 12, 2012, 17:08 GMT)

very well written..excellent.100% agree with you

Posted by Ben2014 on (October 12, 2012, 17:04 GMT)

Bang on! I like this and support this 100%. ICC should do something to have all the Champions in. They can't permit a window for this if all Champions are not included. Or else ask BCCI, CA and CSA to change the name of the tournament and take your hands off of this tournament. Firdos, you have the facts right - 100%. I feel for the missing Champions. Don't get me wrong. I am an IPL fan and of Indian origin. I do crazy things like any crazy cricket fans of India. My conscience is not dead though.

Posted by ProdigyA on (October 12, 2012, 17:04 GMT)

Why not just scrap the CL all together. Then the "Champion" domestic teams can happily play in their respective countries all year long and poor Firdose will have one less thing to worry about. Just like saying, lets fire our Boss, so we can sit happily at home, UNEMPLOYED.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 16:58 GMT)

This tournament is simply a joke. From the first tournament there was evidence of an unfair format but now the organizers are simply overdoin it. Viewers should consider boycotting this tournament.

Posted by test_cricket_is_real_cricket on (October 12, 2012, 16:52 GMT)

that is the right thing... it is 3+2+2 + defending champion.... based on the quality of cricket and cricketers who play in the league... not like the football champions league where clearly, atleast 10 premier league clubs are better than say the danish or swiss champions but dont get a chance to play.... being champions of your domestic league doesnt mean you are good at the world stage....

Posted by Zan46 on (October 12, 2012, 16:48 GMT)

I do agree with the writer. This CLT20 is a big farce. How could ICC allow the format as is. someone in ICC is making money on the side - maybe India YV should investigate. How could champions have to qualify for a Champions competitions. This CLT20 should be abolish until ICC gets it right.

Posted by jaanjaanPAKISTAN on (October 12, 2012, 16:45 GMT)

right, its not a fair event...... ll boycott it this time as well....

Posted by abs.liton on (October 12, 2012, 16:42 GMT)

This is totally disgraceful to the other test playing nations that Pakistan, Srilanka's team have to play qualifying match whereas India's four teams are playing in this tournament. Even Bangladesh and Zimbabwe's teams are not included. This is just marketing of India and nothing else. They have a huge crowd so they can do anything whatever they wish to. To other nations, cricket is just cricket... but to India, cricket is just a golden goose where they can get money by using this goose. But they should remember that they are near to cut this golden goose and they are going to lose many things in near future.

Posted by British_North_America on (October 12, 2012, 16:41 GMT)

it is not Champions League T20, it is India-South Africa-Australia T20,two qualified teams for slight variation.

Posted by ExtremeSpeed on (October 12, 2012, 16:39 GMT)

Besides the huge number of empty seats in the stadiums thus far is proof enough no one really cares about this tournament. It may make money in the short term but long term will lose sponsorships and interests I mean who would want to invest sponsor such a show when these matches have no atmosphere?

Posted by N.V.Prashanth on (October 12, 2012, 16:38 GMT)

Never before I have been tempted to write a comment on an article like today. Boards that invest in the event, reaps benefits from it. If your cricket board says that I do not want to invest - like how WI rejected Modi's invitation to invest - then you must be happy that you have at least two slots open to participate. Its like "I do not want to invest but I want the company to pay me dividends on par with an investor". Does not make any economical sense to me. So, to say that giving equal chance to investing boards and non-investing board is fair is incorrect. It is totally unfair on boards that are investing. If it is ICC managed event and ICC pays for it, then this article holds good.

Posted by jahrasta on (October 12, 2012, 16:38 GMT)

Absolute rubbish tournament. T&T and the rest of the Caribbean will be boycotting this event.

Posted by dulabhai on (October 12, 2012, 16:38 GMT)

I was never interested in CLT20 and never will be.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 16:37 GMT)

This is ridiculous,there should be many more team to come to play in the champions league,it means that the indian board is dominating the ICC from its franchise and supporters

Posted by ExtremeSpeed on (October 12, 2012, 16:35 GMT)

Seriously instead of calling it a champions league just call it IPL Extra or IPL 2 :D but really should be run by ICC if there is to be such a PROPER CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

Posted by nidhin.rajan on (October 12, 2012, 16:32 GMT)

CLT20 does not seem fair..coming frm a die hard Indian fan

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 16:23 GMT)

Very well written piece stole all my words nothing else to say absolutely agree with you Firdose Moonda.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 16:23 GMT)

very well written article highlighting the realities !!!!!

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 16:20 GMT)

I totally agree with this article not only this tournament is a failure but most Cricket fans do not really care especially the way it is structured. However, I personally do believe such a Champions League should exist but needs to be structured and run properly and like the article points out first have all the champions of the respective T20 leagues around the world competing in the tournament after all that's what 'Champions' league supposed to mean anyway. But in my view this is how the tournament should be have 4 groups of 4 with no qualifying and then a quarter final, semi and final.

Posted by Tokai69 on (October 12, 2012, 16:18 GMT)

This is nothing new that now a day, money is more important in the game of Cricket not the game per se. Another reason why this game lacks popularity in the world level. It's still a game of few cricketing countries. In future ICC may break into pieces like ISACC (IND-SA-Aus Cricket Council) or EISCC (ENG-IND-SRI Cricket Counci)l or PWBCC (PAK-WI-BAN Cricket Council) and so on....

Posted by Prabs429 on (October 12, 2012, 16:15 GMT)

Money money money I am fed up with attitude of governing bodies.the problem is most of these run by corporates.clt20 is such a rubbish tournament heavily favours ipl teams.where is the levelling play field .if this trend continuous test cricket wil extinct soon.

Posted by FM97 on (October 12, 2012, 16:13 GMT)

What an amazing article this is !! Well done cricinfo , you've just shown us what is exactly needed to improve this league. It is not a useless tournament and it has great scope of improvement.

Posted by ejsiddiqui on (October 12, 2012, 16:09 GMT)

I 100% agree with you Firdose, this league can be called anything but Champions League. This is the disgrace to champions that no3 and 4 teams are playing to be the bigger champion although the lost in lower competition. Everything would become right If they change the name as you suggested "Ind-SA-Aus T20 with invited guests".

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 16:08 GMT)

Winners from domestic leagues should take part and thats that. With IPL teams spending million on their franchises, they are sure to feel bad if the runners up misses this.

But then champions league should have a meaning to it.

Posted by ashguru123 on (October 12, 2012, 16:08 GMT)

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Posted by getsetgopk on (October 12, 2012, 16:06 GMT)

Half way through the article I almost forgot if I was reading an article about cricket on cricinfo or some business article, literally. Do I care? No mam, I certainly dont, its not cricket. its a cheap way of making money and since I dont work in the financial sector it would be wrong of you think I will ever care.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 16:00 GMT)

ah! finally someone spoke! what a farce the CL is.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 15:52 GMT)

True and bitter, very good analysis. Ind-SA-AUS t20 and two guest teams....:)

Posted by Robster1 on (October 12, 2012, 15:51 GMT)

It doesn't really matter what one think or says, all that counts to cricket's $ obsessed administrators is that they satisfy the Indian TV market.

Posted by o_close on (October 12, 2012, 15:50 GMT)

FM who usually is fair and independent - has not got it right in this case. Or maybe it has become too fashionable in the cricketing world to critisize BCCI - to not jump in that bandwagon. The World Series is baseball is played between US teams with only Canada with a chance to be in it. But they market is as a World Series. Also I am sure there are teams in San Marino or Faroe Islands that have won 20 matches in a row - that does not mean they automatically qualify for the UEFA Champions League. Apoel from Cyprus grabbed the small window of opportunity and made it to the Quarterfinas in 2011/2012 UEFA Champions league. If either T&T or S&S was that good - they would have made it through the qualifiers to the final round as Apoel did.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 15:48 GMT)

I agree this is rubbis tournament with 4 teams from india and bangladest and zimbabwe left out and rest six teams fighting for 3 spots. Absoulutely rubbish.

Posted by atif000 on (October 12, 2012, 15:47 GMT)

Its the money league, where the only concern is money, not the GAME , cut the money and make a proper champions league , all test playing nations domestic T20 Champions, ICC sort it out for once, OR just change the name

Posted by Munkeymomo on (October 12, 2012, 15:47 GMT)

Even though the 'rankings' are financially based, they do represent a similar trend in terms of team strength. E.g. IPL sides are very strong, due to high numbers of overseas players combined with the money to keep their big homegrown stars, that leads to strong teams. Australia and South African sides are the next strongest, due to small number of teams and large, high quality player pools. English and Pakistan teams are weaker, due to large number of teams diluting the talent pools. New Zealand and Sri Lankan teams are weaker still due to lower strength domestic systems (though with the SLPL, their teams will improve, though they don't have the money to keep star players). Bangladesh and Zimbabwean domestic teams are comparatively weak. West Indies are the odd one out. Domestic teams look weak on paper, but they do well and are current world champs. They are the ones who could claim they should have 1 auto entry.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 15:46 GMT)

Total waste of time compleate snooze fest NO ONE cares

Posted by VJGS on (October 12, 2012, 15:46 GMT)

No one really cares about the tournament anyways - not even Indians, despite having four IPL (out of eight) teams in it. So why not try and experiment by being fair to all participating nations?

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Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 15:44 GMT)

CLT20 is joke. MPL - Money Premier League like name would suit to such arrangement

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 15:41 GMT)

How the hell Mumbai Indians automatically qualified

Posted by Sulaimaan91 on (October 12, 2012, 15:39 GMT)

One word DISGRACEFUL.....the other member boards from SL,NZ,Pak,WI should follow England and withdraw their teams from next year.They dont get any cash for playing in the qualifiers, so nothing to lose.Also these teams should arrange bilateral series and leave Aus-SA-Ind to have some fun - as long as it lasts.

Posted by   on (October 12, 2012, 15:36 GMT)

Boycotted every edition so far and this one will be no different Until they actually have the no.1 teams from each test playing nation participating this competition will continue to be a farce

Posted by S-A-M-1994 on (October 12, 2012, 15:34 GMT)

Brilliant Article by writer,SpoT on

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