ICC's revamp plans

CSA demands ICC proposals withdrawn

David Hopps

January 20, 2014

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'Dice heavily loaded in favour of big three'

Graeme Smith receives the ICC Test mace from Vince van der Bijl, Johannesburg, March 28, 2013
CSA president, Chris Nenzani (left), has written an open letter to the ICC's Full Members © Getty Images

Cricket South Africa has become the first national board to call for the ICC to withdraw the draft proposal that would put power in international cricket in the hands of India, England and Australia.

South Africa have been identified as the big losers in the potential changes, which, if adopted, could be viewed as a power grab by the three nations that bring most revenue into the international game. Calling the plans "in breach of the ICC constitution", CSA has now made its opposition clear.

The "position paper", drawn up by a working group of the ICC's Finance & Commercial Affairs (F&CA) committee, is due to be put to the ICC Executive Board at its quarterly meeting in Dubai on January 28-29. The proposals would need seven votes out of ten to pass.

Despite South Africa's position as the No. 1-ranked Test side in the world, if the proposals were adopted, their projected share of future revenues at every stage would fall below than even that of the Pakistan board.

South Africa's relationship with India has declined markedly since they appointed Haroon Lorgat as chief executive of their own board. It was Lorgat, as ICC chief executive, who championed the Woolf report, which proposed placing the ICC in the hands of independent directors. Lorgat's subsequent feud saw him ousted at the ICC and cold-shouldered by the BCCI, which refused to deal with him as India undertook a much-reduced tour of South Africa last year.

CSA has now become the first board to publicly state its opposition to the ambush proposals, calling for a more consultative and "constitutionally ordained" process to take place.

The meeting on January 9, where Full Member boards were presented with the paper, was unscheduled and "came out of nowhere", according to the head of one board. Nazmul Hassan, president of the BCB, said that Bangladesh "can't doing anything on our own", while NZC director Martin Snedden suggested the BCCI-ECB-CA plans were not necessarily a bad thing for world cricket.

CSA responded in a statement, saying: "Without addressing the merits of the proposal insofar as it concerns constitutional amendments and changes to ICC competitions, these proposals should first be referred to the relevant ICC committees or sub‐committees for proper consideration and to make recommendations to the ICC Board."

The open letter, copied to ICC Full Members and media outlets, was written not by Lorgat, but by Chris Nenzani, CSA's president and board chairman, directed to ICC president Alan Isaac.

"Although there is nothing to prevent a review of the ICC funding model or finances, the proposal self-evidently is inextricably tied up with a fundamental restructuring of the ICC, which has far‐reaching constitutional implications," Nenzani said.

"The draft proposal is, therefore, fundamentally flawed as regards the process and, therefore, in breach of the ICC constitution.

"In the circumstances we propose that the draft proposal be withdrawn immediately, given that the proper procedures have not been followed.

"In our respectful opinion, a more considered, inclusive/consultative, and properly constitutionally ordained approach is required."

Isaac, a former chairman of the New Zealand board, whose business career involved 35 years with the global accounting firm KPMG, is now facing the most problematic task of a low-key term as ICC president. It is questionable whether he will welcome the attention. The presidential role will officially become a ceremonial role once he steps down in 2014 and he has already done much to hasten that transition.

Tony Irish, chief executive of the South African Cricketers' Association, had previously defined the document as, "concerning," saying it will have "significant implication for cricket, particularly for smaller countries of which South Africa is one - revenue wise."

David Hopps is the UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by SShanto33 on (January 24, 2014, 6:02 GMT)

So do I,nor it'll tarnish the game

Posted by redneck on (January 24, 2014, 1:46 GMT)

@Xolile well its easy when looking at ratios to say south africa are the best nation in tests over the last 50 years. but bear in mind they were missing for the 20 years the west indies were dominating, when pakistan could boast imran, waqar and wasim. when by comparison west indies were touring australia every other summer. make no mistake Australia has a superior record when it comes to tests won, overseas test won and pretty much everything else that has to do with winning test matches. south africa also championed zimbabwes test playing cause and have played plenty more test with the minnows than the 3 in total australia have played against zimbabwe. also using your logic south afrcia have failed to win a series at home vs australia for 44 years, not very fitting for a team you proclaim to be the best in the world over the last 50 years!!!

Posted by Beyond-the-Boundary on (January 24, 2014, 0:03 GMT)

India is afraid of playing other countries... it is time to play cricket with the money that the other countries can generate by themselves and leave India out.

Posted by ukhossain on (January 23, 2014, 17:28 GMT)

Blackmailing...... !! What kind proposal is it ?? Need to kick-out India from ICC.

Shame on you !! shame on you 3 !!

''Save Cricket'' Wish good luck for Cricket !!

Posted by Duidelik on (January 23, 2014, 12:56 GMT)

@Shan_Karthic......India, with your 1,4 billion people, has never ever even qualified to play in a football WC, while SA with a population of just 50 million has already sent 11 players to 2 football world cups (EXCLUDING the one in SA), so stick to the cricketing topic, mate! Also, your model may sound great in theory, but we all know that real life never mirrors the theory!

P.S. Wanna try and play us in rugby??

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 20:33 GMT)

@Chris Wynn Bangladesh already oppose the proposal. CSA can count on the support of Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. I feel Pakistan would oppose, as will West Indies. If the big 3 countries want to protect their own interests, then the rest need to group together.

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 18:56 GMT)

I think that the proposal will get passed by hook or crook. So it would be better to think about including certain conditions in it. I suggest the following: 1. If the FTP is scrapped, tours have to be on a strictly reciprocal basis. So if India invites WI for 'x' number of tests and ODI's they have to play that many in WI as well. 2. The above commitment should be legally binding and if it is not met, the revenue generated from extra home matches should be split 50 - 50. 3. Minimum guarantee of 3 Tests and 7 ODI's home and away with all Test playing nations (current and future) over a 8 year period. 4. A cap on the share of revenue from ICC's divisible pool to a maximum of 3 times the minimum share of a Full Member. The minimum share of a Full Member can not be less than twice the maximum share of an associate member. 5. The clause regarding non-relegation of Big 3 has to go away.

I think that this proposal takes care of merit and financial contributions.

And I am not a Big 3 fan.

Posted by Shan_Karthic on (January 22, 2014, 15:44 GMT)

@gerrardl @roketman: The point is if you think SA is great in many sports, last 8 years data does not show it. Plus the one soccer cup appearance during that period was due to hosting it as they were the lowest ranked team and were the first host ever to be kicked out in the first round.

Now, in terms of population, yours is a valid argument. You will expect a bigger country with more population to do better. My point was anyway not that India is doing great. It is that SA is not doing great either.

Take your argument further. A bigger country with more population will need more funds to develop any sport. So should we distribute the ICC revenue by % population of each country? I mean if SA has to take care of 100 developing players, and India has 25 times more population, then may be they need to take care of 2500 developing players. Do you agree to that model?

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 13:52 GMT)

I think even many Indians, Australians and English will oppose the proposed idea. How NZ cricket support such a stupid thing? I think all other test playing countries will sit together and give the big three a strong feedback.

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 13:10 GMT)

Boycot these 'big' 3 and form a new cricket council. I want to see how they can manage to attract the supporters to watch same team over and over again.

Posted by BloodBeat on (January 22, 2014, 12:36 GMT)

@Omarrz-Sadly,my friend,that is true we will never get to see live matches at home

Posted by kingcobra85 on (January 22, 2014, 7:40 GMT)

CSA didnt have any concern for cricket when they fought with BCCI when appointing CEO that they had problem with but now CSA wants cricket to win and it's all BCCI fault and lets all forget ECB and CA are involved.

CSA is not concerned about the cricket, they are concerned about the money that the big three bring to the table. To be fair it is ridiculous that the boards that don't make a profit eats away the revenues of boards that work and make a profit.

ICC should not be a socialists mud pit, we all know what socialism eventually does!

Posted by Riffat on (January 22, 2014, 4:12 GMT)

This is ridiculous oligarchy. How can you improve in test unless you play with all the better teams in all conditions? How many tests Bng have played compare to AUS, ENG and IND in last 10 years? Is this our fault that we are not improving in test? We just whitewashed NZ, beat WI in last ODI series, became runner up in Asia Cup, conducting T-20 WC. What more improvement are you looking for? Plus even the big three suffer huge defeat when they travel abroad. England just whitewashed in Aus; earlier Aus was whitewashed in Eng. India was whitewashed in both Eng and in Aus. So, if Bng / ZMB / NZ lose in Eng or in Aus, whats wrong with it? I think these 'three' are afraid to play with the rest; they want to eliminate this embarrassment. Everybody is talking about money / revenue where the problem lies elsewhere. I have never heard of such oligarchy in other sports. ICC is always a laughing stock to me.

Posted by VisBal on (January 22, 2014, 1:24 GMT)

There is one way to reduce the dominance of the Big 3. All Boards derive their sustenance from home series. If the Smaller Seven just refuse to tour the Big Three that will hurt them where it hurts most. In the case of India, just refusing to play ODIs and T20s will be sufficient to pull them to their senses.

Posted by VisBal on (January 22, 2014, 0:52 GMT)

@ Sayeeshwar Sathyanarayan: You comparison with football is very inaccurate. Firstly, FIFA (not England) has a dedicated development fund for India. That the money is spent on meetings is not their fault. Why do you think the 2017 U-17 World Cup is coming to India? FIFA rules state that to qualify to host the WC, you need to have qualified to play in a WC before bidding.This is obviously a deviation and it is being done to develop the game in India.

Secondly, India is not paying money to any of the other Boards. ICC is paying out of ICC funds. ICC profits are generated by hosting ICC events (World Cup, Champions Trophy, etc.).

Finally, if you still compare with football, FIFA does not share profits with any team. However they share money with the continental conferences.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 23:37 GMT)

@TheScot. My point is no country should be forced to play or tour another country. FIFA does not force England to play India in a friendly. This should be the same in cricket too. Before the FTP came into being, all tours were bilateral arrangements and should be the case now too. If India wants to have a longer domestic season, say a longer IPL, they should be able to do so and not be forced to play international cricket.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 21:20 GMT)

CSA need to move quickly to garner support from NZ, SL, Zim, Ban and WI, before the big 3 get a chance to "coerce" them into supporting them...

Good on CSA for finally standing up to the big guns. Come on CSA, now stick to your principles and make sure that cricket worldwide is for the fans, and not just to line the pockets of the wealthy big three!

Posted by chakay-pay-chaka on (January 21, 2014, 19:52 GMT)

Am I the only one missing the obvious? Isn't there a conflict of interest here from the word go? The 3 form a working group that comes out with a proposal that gives them ALL the power, most of the revenue, responsibility for "nominating" the person who heads it all and to top it off, bilateral FTP so none of the other countries get even a look in!! The remaining 7 need to reject this out of hand immediately and the ICC? The ICC needs to be more democratic in its representation and dictatorial in the implementation of its"directives" to ensure equity.

Posted by bundybear55 on (January 21, 2014, 19:43 GMT)

Finally a cricket board speaking up...!! CSA probably have to be the ones leading this, but they will have a job on their hands getting support from the other nations. It looks like NZ have already rolled over, probably under threat of losing matches from next years world cup. We now also know why India arranged the tests against the WI late last year at the expense of the SA series. That gives them 5 votes so far and we know how dependant SL are on India, so make that 6, then how hard is it going to be for them to "bribe/coerce" one of Bangladesh or Zimbabwe into voting with them. So it looks a fait accompli with SA and Pakistan left out in the cold - ironically, probably the best 2 test teams in the world at the moment. It's great to see cricket fans around the world unite on this issue, but I wonder if anyone is listening. Message to the so-called "Big 3": In case you may have forgotten, THE GAME BELONGS TO US, NOT YOU...!!!

Posted by ofthedeepbluesea on (January 21, 2014, 19:13 GMT)

@SevereCritic If you feel a need to comment, at least get your facts straight. Seeing as you mention the example set by India and the BCCI, lets take a look at the recent series against India. The ICC determines the number of tests, the grounds those test are to be played at, etc. Everyone was annoyed with the fact the South Africa was yet again forced to play a shortened test series. Then there was the choice of Kingsmead over other venues cause South Africa's record at the ground had (until now) been less the stellar. Then of course there is the non-use of DRS as the BCCI doesn't favour its use. Finally, there is the BCCI's spat with CSA over their choice of Lorgat as CEO and so South Africa also has to suffer for that.

Posted by Omarrz on (January 21, 2014, 18:31 GMT)

If this happens, one thing is for sure. Cricket is never going back to Pakistan again...ever!

Posted by SevereCritic on (January 21, 2014, 17:43 GMT)

Rather hypocritical of CSA given their general refusal to help cricket by playing against "lesser" test teams. World Cricket has always been controlled by ECB and CA right since its inception. The BCCI has barged into the fold through sheer financial clout. But then BCCI has also done way more for promoting cricket than CSA has in the last few years. India has played series against Zimbabwe, WI, NZ in the last year alone thereby helping out bankrupt boards, while CSA has refused to schedule any major test series against the minnows. All CSA wants is play series against the Big 3 to generate more revenues? When was the last time SA played a 3+ match test series against WI, NZ, BD or ZIM? QQ more SA.

Posted by r0ketman on (January 21, 2014, 16:15 GMT)

@Shan_Karthic: I think a bit of research is in order before making statements (unrelated to cricket). India has more than 25 times the population of South Africa. India has participated in more summer Olympics than SA. Yet India's total Medal count is a third of what SA's total medal count is (India has 26 compared to SA 76)!! India has only 9 Gold medals compared to SAs 23. What are you comparing here mate? Also, SA has Qualified for 3 World Cup Soccer Tournaments since their readmission in 1992, where as India has never really qualified for World Cup Soccer (in 1950 they qualified by default, since none of their opponents showed up, but decided not to join). Am I the only one missing a point here?

Posted by gerrardl on (January 21, 2014, 15:46 GMT)

@Shan_Karthic Your point is irrelevant and also wildly incorrect. India has a population of over 1 billion by comparison SA has 40m.

Comparing sports stars/medals/trophies/rankings/success rates, or whatever else, over ALL sports per capita, I think you'll find SA are way more competitive and successful than India which is clearly a one sport nation.

Posted by IndCricFan2013 on (January 21, 2014, 15:40 GMT)

It appears only South Africa and Sri Lanka may oppose. May be Pakistan also. Otherwise it appears NZ, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and West Indices will vote in favor to pass the resolution. If these nations vote in favor, what anyone can do?

Posted by rajatmohan83 on (January 21, 2014, 15:39 GMT)

Icc should give warning to those cricket board like csa and other countries who oppose it without understanding basic concept of it and csa and other countries has to understand icc needs these three countries to expand the cricket and bring more countries who wants to embrace all three formats and allow more countries to get more exposure on international status and if the countries complain about this. the need to get to the point where india, Australia and England is standing. they need to prove financially and not being on the number one spot. these countries has to understand that power can shifted to another countries or other countries can be added to with three countries whom the icc gave powers and influence. so I say work hard and achieve that status.

please don't take this as an offence csa or other cricket boards. please try to understand I want to see few associates getting chance to play all three formats

Posted by avmd on (January 21, 2014, 15:38 GMT)

Lets make a separate cricket body, excluding "big 3". SA, Pakistan, SL, NZ, WI and associate members,will do just fine. Let them make money and we;ll play and enjoy the beautiful game.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 15:28 GMT)

I am very surprised to see some of the fans reactions. How in the world this illogical arguments to consolidate power in 3 big heads be supported. Sports and business can go together. But sports and business are not conducted from and in the same spirit. Business is all about money. Whereas, when sportsman are in the park they leave behind everything but execute the beautiful skills they are gifted in competitive manner and entertain fans and make their club nation proud. FIFA, UFA, IOC, NBA, MLB are all successful as business conducted without killing the spirit of the sports. Thanks CSA and BCB, only boards with some constructive reactions so far. Cricket NZ, wow?

Posted by Sinhabahu on (January 21, 2014, 15:23 GMT)

Sri Lankan media is quoting the sports minister as saying that the SLC will also reject this proposal. Let's see if it's confirmed. This took me by surprise because SLC is almost a subsidiary of the BCCI!

Posted by Hrolf on (January 21, 2014, 15:16 GMT)

I have thought for a long time that tours should be largely managed bilaterally, with the ICC only getting involved to sort out differences and problems, to foster the game globally, and to organise the occasional international tournament. The ICC should not be interested in generating revenue for itself, but merely providing direction on how money should be most appropriately spent by the various boards for the benefit of the game.

Posted by Engr.Zubair007 on (January 21, 2014, 15:11 GMT)

This will be remembered as doomsday of cricket specially in Associate cricketing nations if the proposal is passed on 28/29 of this month in Dubai..I suggest that it should be strongly rejected by all other members than ECB,BBCI & CA..

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (January 21, 2014, 15:08 GMT)

If all of these arrangements had been made openly and transparently without being srung on Full Members and without the cloak and dagger stuff it would have made a massive difference. But it has been negotiated in dark corners between 3 members. They do not come with 'clean hands'. They come with hidden agendas and oligarchic intentions in a system where only democracy can be seen to be fair.

Posted by Rezaul on (January 21, 2014, 14:56 GMT)

Why cant rest 7 full members be unite and stand by CSA. BCB president already made a press conference at Dhaka and they are looking for more voice against this hijack proposal. Lets make another cricket world excluding these three.

Posted by Baundele on (January 21, 2014, 14:36 GMT)

I hope commonsense will prevail. ICC should not be run only based on the 'current' commercial cosiderations. If world cricket can proper, money will come. For example, spread cricket in countries like China, Malayasia, Thailand, and aid the developing cricket nations to improve their cricket, then cricket will prosper all over the world. More spectators, more money! Simple.

Posted by KrikIndFan on (January 21, 2014, 14:22 GMT)

@mzm, Although I agree on not to give power to just 3 associations, I'm still trying to understand, on what IPL has got to do with this issue. IPL only last for 2 months, no foreign players are forced to join, they come because they like their pay, the crowd, the attention etc. Let there be a vote among all ICC associated nations to resolve this.

Posted by JayPeg on (January 21, 2014, 14:16 GMT)

@Shan_Karthic - amusing! So by your standards the Olympic games determines whether a nation is good at sports. Maybe you should do your homework a little better and look at the main team sports in the non US and Anglo centric world, cricket, rugby and football, and rethink your answer.I think you will find that SA is above India in all those sports and in two of the three against England and Australia. How many sports is India in the 1 or 2 position worldwide? Then answer the same question for SA. Do your homework!

Posted by ozymandiasza on (January 21, 2014, 14:08 GMT)

@boomslanger, you're joking right?

The only people on your list that need money is Parneel and de Kock. The rest of them have got more than enought moeny for them and their children's children.

Posted by Tmalik on (January 21, 2014, 14:06 GMT)

Strong reaction required from other 7 members on this weird proposal, CSA should stop participation in IPL.... lets make World Cricket Association and leave these 3 out... tit for tat..

Posted by TheScot on (January 21, 2014, 14:03 GMT)

@Sayeeshwar: I disagree with your point of view. No logic, whatsoever, can explain the division of a sport on the basis of monetary power of its running bodies. There is no apparent division in international football played among more than 120 countries. If India can qualify to play the football WC then it would very well play England (in case England qualifies TOO) in the WC.

Posted by djy1 on (January 21, 2014, 14:03 GMT)

There are some comments that, in my opinion, spectacularly miss the point of sport. This isn't business - its sport. Businesses exist primarily to make a profit for shareholders. Yes, shareholders don't (usually) want things to be done unethically but the bottom line matters more than anything else. When it comes to sport, the primary objective should be to make the sport better, more enjoyable and more accessible for all. Grow the fanbase, grow attendance, grow interest and above all, grow participation. Custodians of the sport have a huge responsibility to make the sport better and invest / re-invest for the benefit of the sport, not for the beneft of themselves. The ICC are the ultimate custodians of the game and there are some good ideas in here (test match fund) but the oligopoly would be in danger of benefitting the oligopoly and not the game and damaging the sport.

Posted by Tmalik on (January 21, 2014, 14:02 GMT)

ICC stands for "International Cricket Crises" for the fact that ICC spelling itself is within" BCCI" they are losers. ICC can go to hell, lets make World Cricket Association and keep the 3 out. Bang may not stand to this proposal since they proved slave of India politically and in cricket but PAK, SL and SA are strong cricket forces and should oppose and stand in way or go for WCA (World Cricket Assoiation). India is like wild animal with carcas in mouth as food. Alone India/Pak game will earn them more money than combined revenue of Aus & Eng playing indiviudually to India. India is the only country who has politics in sports, they somewhat succeeded destroying Pak cricket with SL attacks but Pak will come out of it very soon. India cant beat them apart from WC no matter where they play India gets thrashed so they found solution, just now play Pak. Other seven members of ICC should stand up and float idea of WCA, another Kerry Packer coming, bad plan to make richer even richer

Posted by ozymandiasza on (January 21, 2014, 13:59 GMT)

@Venkat Sharma: it's not a "business" it's a SPORT!

Posted by boomslanger on (January 21, 2014, 13:52 GMT)

2 mzm149 Steyn, Morkel, de Villiers, du Plessis, de Kock, Duminy, Kallis, Parnell Need the money. IPL is the biggest payer and potentially funds the lifestyle and future ambitions of many players who may or may not represent their National sides. They need IPL more than IPL needs them.

Posted by Nadeemusman on (January 21, 2014, 13:50 GMT)

Well done CSA. The plan by the big 3 is going to take cricket to colonial era. It will be detrimental to the game and instead of increasing cricket globally and increasing more associate and permanent members it is going to reduce cricket. I believe in equality and already ICC is doing well with the present status. There is no need for such drama.

Posted by JimmySA on (January 21, 2014, 13:50 GMT)

@Sayeeshwar Sathyanarayanan that is the same as saying why does India not play Antartica in cricket. no difference in the ranking gap, just a different sport.

Posted by Ubaidaleem on (January 21, 2014, 13:49 GMT)

@ Sayeeshwar England not playing football with India is nothing to do with revenue generation... It is because Indian football team is not good enough. If India generates so much revenue then they should be confident that their spendings will result in strong team performance and hence they should have equal chance of relegation shall they drop their rankings. Mind you 70% revenue does not make you best team in the World.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 13:34 GMT)

it does not matter if you are no 1 or no 10. it matters how much money you bring in. revenue allocation is a basic necessity. its business not a charity.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 13:34 GMT)

ICC- do they ever get anything right? Answer- not very often.

Posted by wapuser on (January 21, 2014, 13:25 GMT)

Well done CSA....its really shameful those big 3 are doing trying to hijacked cricket. ..

Posted by mzm149 on (January 21, 2014, 13:20 GMT)

South Africa should stop sending its players to IPL. Considering that most of foreign players in IPL are from SA and Aus, it will be a big blow to BCCI. Imagine what will remain in IPL once Steyn, Morkel, de Villiers, du Plessis, de Kock, Duminy, Kallis, Parnell withdraw from it. Only a handful of British players play in IPL i.e. Morgan, KP and Owais Shah. It will boil down to Australian, West Indian and a few Sri Lankan players. I hope West Indies and Sri Lanka adopt the same strategy. It will somehow dent BCCI financially. These big three need to learn a lesson.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (January 21, 2014, 13:18 GMT)

The only way Australia can take the No.1 Test position off South Africa!

Posted by wapuser on (January 21, 2014, 13:07 GMT)

Cricket is in crisis. I am sorry my national board is one of its hijackers

Posted by Stark62 on (January 21, 2014, 13:03 GMT)

@ Green_and_Gold Your logic is flawed because sport is not a business!!

England is one the biggest contributors to football but they didn't qualify for euro's, so was the European competition postponed or abandoned?

No, they continued to play because it's not a BUSINESS.

This proposal will simply allow, for the big 3 to play each other every 2 years with a mix and match from the rest, so the fans don't get bored of seeing the same teams two teams.

Posted by AnotherCricketFan on (January 21, 2014, 12:57 GMT)

As someone mentioned here, cricket will no longer be an international sport, it will become a country-specific league with club level T20 surviving. Inter-country events like ODI, Test Series even World cups will go away. Like NBA, NFL the winner of the IPL will be crowned the World Champions!

With 1.2 billion and a huge ex-pat IPL will survive a decade and then cricket will blossom again in the streets and alleys.

Posted by Little_Aussie_Battler on (January 21, 2014, 12:56 GMT)

Everyone outside the troika STOP complaining and start by playing red ball cricket. The party is OVER for the free hand outs if you want to stay in the big league. Now we are all going to have to earn it.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 12:53 GMT)

This is the right time to think cricket without these 3-countries just to keep the momentum of real cricket alive among the other nations of the world......These 3- nations have showed their money grabbing lust with notorious mentality...All other cricketing nations should oppose these 3- nations as South Africa has showed its openion against this move........................Otherwise, cricket would be limited up to only on Big Bash, IPL and County clubs.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 12:53 GMT)

When was the last time England played India in football? Can anyone here find a single sport where revenue is shared equally among different nations? Why should cricket be any different? Actually India has been generous in playing all these smaller countries. When was the last time England played India in football?

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 12:44 GMT)

Well done CSA, we hope other countries are also coming to join with CSA,

Posted by ruester on (January 21, 2014, 12:34 GMT)

I'm disgusted at the big three. I'm an England supporter and love the game. I am sick to death of these administrators only looking out for themselves and not considering other test nations. I demand to see my countries national team play the NZ, South Africa Sri Lanka etc. I didn't want to see ten test matches back to back against Australia, even before the last series. I had lost interest. Seeing players from other parts of the world perform makes the game great. Don't rob us the supporters who pay for tickets, buy your merchandise and pay our tv subscriptions to see cricket from seeing the other nations play.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 12:20 GMT)

Okay Green_and_Gold. Let's say your 3 friends are doing so well. Would you say that the other friends have something to do with that. Take the other friends away. Do you think they would still do so well. How much money does ECB, BCCI and CA make from tours by other countries to their shores. Playing someone like South Africa, number 1 in the world, tends to fill up stadiums. Load of money. Why don't these 3 friends start their own thing and kick the rest out. Let's see how that goes for them. Great idea to do this in rugby as well. England, New Zealand and South Africa take over world rugby. Then the rest can play each other and when one of those big 3 decide it's okay then the little teams like Australia can have a game against them. This is sport my friend. The idea is to build the smaller teams up to become big. Not bully them and push them down so they never achieve anything.

Posted by bouncer709 on (January 21, 2014, 12:05 GMT)

might is right.................

Posted by VisBal on (January 21, 2014, 11:58 GMT)

Just read elsewhere that the ICC has rejected CSA's request for withdrawing the document. All hope rests on the meeting. Hopefully SLC, PCB, BCB, and ZC will join hands with CSA to save cricket. As a co-author, WICB is compromised and we have seen that NZC is in agreement with the "new model". The remaining five need to stand together to prevent this from happening.

Posted by Neel_123 on (January 21, 2014, 11:47 GMT)

@Shongololo and others: Regarding boycott of India-ECB-CA by other countries-- By the time BCCI comes to SA with cap in hands to 'beg' them for playing matches with India, cricket will be a thing of past in SA (and WI and NZ and SL and other associates countries) hence there won't be a thing called WI or NZ cricket teams to play with. Given IPL and other earnings, BCCI will be the last cricket board to 'die'. Chances are India would go MLB (major league baseball) and NFL way. BCCI does not 'need' other boards to be financially viable anymore.

Why is it so hard to understand for some commentators to understand that HUGE disparity between the financial health of different boards has brought things to what they are today? Amusing!!

Posted by kentjones on (January 21, 2014, 11:40 GMT)

Salute CSA for standing up to the biggest threat yet to globalization, spread and survival of the beautiful game of cricket. Alarmingly, such a move by the so-called big (3) will systematically,methodically, smother and suffocate the game in countries where financial support is acutely challenging, and polarize the game's structure into the haves who will 'cleave and leave' the have-nots to fend for themselves. Cricket world-wide is already struggling to compete with much more lucrative sports, much more in countries like WI.This move is just another disturbing setback, or more pointedly the final nails for the game's coffin. Ultimately, gradually, the game will wither and die in SL, PK, WI, NZ and BG: all left is the spectre of the cheese, (the 3), standing alone,surrounded and haunted by the ashes of nostalgic, enduring memories of the days of the once mighty WI, the mercurial PK, the flamboyant SL, the dogged NZ and pugnacious BG. Waht a desolate and gloomy day that will be!!

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 11:36 GMT)

Well done Cricket South Africa! But lets see if this stance helps us or alienate ourselves further from the "Big Three".

Posted by JimmySA on (January 21, 2014, 10:51 GMT)

Maybe you should give them their own ranking system as well, then at least one of those 3 teams can be number one again :P ... but seriously, I am a huge cricket fan and if this happens, they might earn some quick money now, but I believe cricket will never be the same in the long run.

Posted by nursery_ender on (January 21, 2014, 10:45 GMT)

I can't believe England, India and Australia expect these proposals to be accepted. Surely they can only be a 'stalking horse' for some less radical change that might not be accepted if presented on its own but will look perfectly acceptable by comparison with this proposal.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 10:41 GMT)

Thanks CSA .....we applaud ur step......plz do something to save cricket

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 10:32 GMT)

The damage has been done and been brewing for a while...the resolution is a joke as much as the ICC has been..its now obvious that Lorgat was shunted aside as per the status quo..India's visit to NZ is at a rather opportune time and ill bet there is and has been plenty of political machination.

It will be disastrous for world cricket and exactly the opposite of what they should be doing which is to make cricket a true global sport by enhancing its spread to many other regions.But,even more urgently is to ensure the cricketing health of Pakistan,Bangladesh,Zimbabwe,New Zealand and Sri Lanka...otherwise cricket just wont have the depth and breadth to prosper long term.

Posted by keptalittlelow on (January 21, 2014, 10:07 GMT)

Brilliant, its a great news that the Board of world's number 1 team is opposed to this narrow mindedness, I am sure the majority of the top ten will oppose this money grabbing mentality.

Posted by BlorScouser on (January 21, 2014, 10:00 GMT)

Applaud the decision by CSA to publicly state their disapproval of this notorious proposal. Hope this encourages the other boards to speak up, but as it stands, I think that is quite unlikely. The boards of Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, New Zealand and West Indies will most probably be content by what is doled out to them by the Big 3, and will support the Big 3 in this proposal. The underlying tragedy is that you've a governing body for a 'global' sport that can be hijacked by three constituent members. So much for the 106 'members' of the ICC having a say in the governance of the global game. Cricket may die out as a global sport. We as fans need to stand up for the health of our sport.

Posted by Rock_cricket on (January 21, 2014, 9:58 GMT)

As an Indian supporter and die hard fan of cricket, I strongly oppose the proposal. The THREE should unite and work to improve cricket , in fact all cricket playing nations should work on improving this great game. The power should not be misused..

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 9:45 GMT)

As an Australian cricket supporter I must say that I am totally opposed to this latest madness be the ICC. My conscience won't allow me to be supportive of this abomination of a proposal. Too much power for India, England and Australia at the expense of the rest of the cricketing world.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (January 21, 2014, 9:45 GMT)

So what if the elite 3 ask their rightful share in power,revenue ? Like a CEO,directors of mnc are paid much more than worker at factory shop in the co. And the game would barely exist w/o the 3.

Posted by Green_and_Gold on (January 21, 2014, 9:41 GMT)

Imagine if you start a business with a friend - and things go well. Then some other friends come along and they join your company but they do not bring in the same amount of business and income as you. They are very skill full and good at what they do however no matter how much they use their skills they just cannot bring in the sales. Do you allow them to be equal partners in your business? Do you allow them to take a higher % of profits for producing lower results?

Im not saying i agree with the proposals (i havent read it entirely so dont want to make comments on that) however ive just tried to take the example and put it in a different way. We are fans of the sport and want it to succeed however if you were running your own business then would you run it the same way your asking the ICC to run Cricket?

Posted by ozwriter on (January 21, 2014, 9:40 GMT)

i fully support the csa and the rest of the 'free' cricketing world. lets protest against this proposed tragedy.

Posted by Waws on (January 21, 2014, 9:39 GMT)

A sport we love will die out in SA if this happens , pity to see..

Posted by ajithabey on (January 21, 2014, 9:38 GMT)

All test playing nations must be treated equally by the ICC. India, England & Australia cannot dictate terms or run the ICC the way they want. The colonial past is dead and buried. Congratulations South Africa for rejecting the draft proposals and I'm sure you will have the support of Sri Lanka, Pakistan, WIndies, New Zealand and Bangladesh to ensure that these draft proposals unless discussed fully with Cricket boards and their executive committees and have their compliance are rejected totally by the majority.

Posted by cricket-is-a-game-not-a-business on (January 21, 2014, 9:37 GMT)

@Tamilpower... does this article is saying anything about Sri Lanka or Pakistan supporting this reforms...? you look like just got things against those two countries and trying to find a way to take your grudges out... read articles fully before you comment... of course one other thing too... you need a brain to understand what you read...

Posted by reality_check on (January 21, 2014, 9:35 GMT)

I hope I am wrong but deafening silence from PCB, SLC and WICB means only one thing ... $$$$. If this is the case then I hope people in these countries stop watching cricket for good and let the boards crumble away into the dustbins.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 9:16 GMT)

The THREE (Particularly India, and England-Australia) are trying to take back the system of old time, it is not good for cricket

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 9:10 GMT)

Ok they want all the power, let them play alone tri-series, tri-worldcup, tri-champions trophy and rest of the teams make their own cricket council and make them side line.

Posted by Tamilpower on (January 21, 2014, 9:09 GMT)

PCB and SL has again proven their lackey characteristics and demonstrates why the nations of Pakistan and SL are in such shambles. They should have joined CSA and made it public their abhorrence to the proposal! But no the $$$ have spoken even though they might not be much the fat cats of the PCB and SL will lick anything thrown their way! Shame the fans of the nations should completely boycott international cricket! After all whats your value? Whats your worth? Ask yourself that!

Posted by nukh on (January 21, 2014, 9:04 GMT)

This is a total hijacking of cricket as a sports. All the boards including SA and PAK should raise their concerns. Cricket will lose its charm if this proposal is accepted.

Posted by BellCurve on (January 21, 2014, 8:54 GMT)

@ Various - The second point I made is that if English and Australian players such as Ian Chappell, David Gower, Graham Gooch, Rod Marsh and Brian Statham are deemed good enough for the ICC Hall of Fame, then surely Dudley Nourse, Aubrey Faulkner, Denis Lindsay, Trevor Goddard, Hugh Tayfield and Eddie Barlow from the pre Apartheid era, and Sean Pollock and Alan Donald from the post Apartheid era, are good enough too. Yet SA only has two representatives in the ICC Hall of Fame - Barry Richards and Graham Pollock - both, bizarrely, from the Apartheid era. From the Apartheid era, SA players such as Mike Procter, Vince v/d Bijl, Clive Rice and Jimmy Cook deserves consideration too.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 8:45 GMT)

As an Aussie, I find it deplorable. Something does need to be done to have the ICC back running thge game but this isn't it. I hope the other nations vote against it.

CUPULW, the Six Nations countries and the souther Four Nattions regularly play against each other. Six Nations sides visit at the end of the Super 15 season and the Four Nations visit the northern unions in their autumn. These are regular games not "once in a whilers".

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 8:37 GMT)

Well done South Africa but I am wondering what the rest of then thinking still haven't responded on this matter come on guys say no to colonisation in cricket

Posted by Tajbal on (January 21, 2014, 8:35 GMT)

I predict that the BCCI will strongarm SL, BD, ZIM and WI to accept the proposal by threatening to stop playing against them so as to strangle them financially. As a result, I fear that SA and PAK will stand alone against this tri-axis power grab and will as a result be cast into the cricketing wilderness. A sad day indeed when the rest of the world will be denied seeing the two most exciting teams in test cricket!

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 8:21 GMT)

in all honesty , most people dont see the benefits, let Aus Eng and India rule decide the who plays which divison for Test Cricket, if Aus and Eng are smart, would relegate themselfs to div 2 and leave Indian as the only div 1 Team, If you see where I am going at, sure India will be no. 1 ranked Tesg Nation, but will have no opportunities to play any Test forcing two options on to the BCCI either they drop themselfs into div 2 and give up thag ranking or just bask in the glory of being no. 1, how long the public would bask in this glory im not sure , but my guess is if non of their players can play and score runs, im sure heads will roll and bcci will soon be submissive

Posted by TEROSHAN on (January 21, 2014, 8:19 GMT)

Weldone CSA .. And you need some collective efforts with SL ,PAK,NZC and WI.. if three guns do it in proper way it is ok but as far as i am concern they wont.. Country vs country is best way to develop the spirit of the game.. (See IND , they are not allowing their players to play in SLPL or BBl BPL i cant see the logic behind that if they ask other players to come and play in IPL)DO NOT ALLOW THE RULES IN JUNGLE WHERE IT IS VERY UFAIR

Posted by BellCurve on (January 21, 2014, 8:15 GMT)

@ Various - Win/Loss ratios for the last 50 years (since 16 Jan 1964): 1 SA 2.11; 2 Aus 1.76; 3 Pak 1.18; 4 Eng 1.08; 5 Ind 0.97; 6 WI 0.94; 7 Sri Lanka 0.82; 8 NZ 0.56; 9 Zim 0.19; 10 Ban 0.05. There is daylight between SA in No1 and Aus in No2; then there is more daylight between Aus in No2 and Pak in No3. There can be absolutely no doubt that SA has the best Test record of the last 50 years. It is true that SA missed 21 years of Test cricket due to Apartheid. But they were the No1 ranked team in 1970 when the period of exclusion began and quickly reestablished themselves as the No2 team after the period ended.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 7:59 GMT)

Not acceptable for any sports board to pass such a resolution.

Posted by Bowlersholding on (January 21, 2014, 7:31 GMT)

At least we had some years of good cricket in South Africa. I think we need to remember it because with the money struggles the writing is on the wall. It is over for us, we need to look at developing other sports.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 7:24 GMT)

Well done CSA

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 7:17 GMT)

Cricket in South Africa is, at best, our third national sport after football and rugby. By disenfranchising the loyal fans of the game here, they are pushing them away from cricket toward other disciplines. We, as the number 1 Test side in the world and a continuously competitive team, do not want to be sidelined and dictated to on the frequency, number and opposition of our matches going forward. That should be the prerogative of the ICC which should be done on a fair and equitable basis. Shame on the boards of India, Aus and Eng who will rather hijack the game of cricket for the benefit of their own interests rather than spread and the game in a just and impartial manner.

Posted by jplterrors on (January 21, 2014, 7:01 GMT)

gd job CSA looking at the bigger picture lets hope the others follow suit

Posted by PrasPunter on (January 21, 2014, 7:00 GMT)

Bravo CSA. At-least you had the guts to do so. Shame that CA has badly let us Aussie fans down with this. Never expected that from CA.

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (January 21, 2014, 6:57 GMT)

@Romanticstud That sounds interesting than the one sided matches between Ind/Eng/Aus but then money talks. This is T20 era and i doubt a separate league for SA and other nations in Test cricket is financially viable.

I think us Indian fans should find some other sport where there is some parity among competitors.

Posted by TheBlackMonk on (January 21, 2014, 6:50 GMT)

Here is my calculation how the voting would go. Since SA pulled the first plug they'll be leading, while clearly BD needed some bigger country to make the first step and they will follow suit, though considering the current situations were not in favor of BD and India had been an influential ally (as been overheard). So, two votes are clear from this point.

Judging from the rest of the country situations, we can write-off NZ right away, while SL though seemed a good guy to many eyes, I reckon won't be a great help. Their financial strength over the years been worsen and partially they are relied on India, so I doubt they would make a decision here, probably they will withdraw from voting.

Now, from the rests, we can cash on the hostile relation of PK with IN and can count on their vote, so it goes to 3. From the rest two countries, I would expect ZIM to step up, as they'll be in similar dire situation as BD, but I have no clue about WI. So, SA, BD, PK and ZIM AND finger crossed!

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 6:44 GMT)

It's ridiculous how the BCCI (which in recent years has only implicitly usurping all power in cricket) seems on the verge of outright "kidnapping" cricket. As a cricket fan who would much rather see full fledged competitive series' between India and quality opposition over the oft sub-par IPL, I sincerely hope that in the event this proposal is adopted, the rest of the boards boycott the elite 3. Hardly seems feasible from a financial standpoint, but it's unlikely that fans in England and Australia would be happy to see their teams play only 2 other countries over and over again...

Posted by CUPULW on (January 21, 2014, 6:42 GMT)

This will be like 4 nations for southern and 6 nations for nothern hemispheres, in rugby union. While they play each other once in a while, constant tests are with each other. while a 2 tier system may be good, cannot understand why 3 nations should have the controling interests. giving power to each nation to decide their schedule may be the beath of smaller nations.

Posted by Salman_Shakeel84 on (January 21, 2014, 6:38 GMT)

As a Pakistani, I would request PCB to join CSA for this cause . The top 3 revenue generating nations are trying to grab the cricket in their hands, Do not let it happen.

Pakistan proved just yesterday by chasing 300+ runs in final 2 sessions of Test match no matter how much revenue they fail to generate but definitely they play an exciting cricket so that even neutral fans follow them...Same is the case with South Africa , when they almost pulled a chase of 450+ runs recently.This is REAL cricket. Do not let India, Australia and England to kill the cricket...

Posted by sray23 on (January 21, 2014, 6:38 GMT)

Finally some guts and determination. Well done CSA. I am Indian myself, but if these proposals go through our national team will lose all credibility due to the inequality of competition they will be up against. I will immediately switch my attention away from international cricket and focus on other sports which have more integrity of competition on the field.

Posted by wanatawu on (January 21, 2014, 6:32 GMT)

This will mean the sport will be dying in other countries, this is already happening in the West Indies, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, Kenya.Next will probably South Africa. The ICC will probably be happy when only the big will be playing and becoming a amateur sport in the other.

Posted by yuvi_gladiator on (January 21, 2014, 6:25 GMT)

So can somebody explain to me why SA with there proud cricketing history is still not able to generate enough cash to run the game even in there own country? the crowds are pathetic even in test cricket. there is something wrong with their own system and there board has been living on the aid for too long IMHO. if there public does not likes the game enough and if they could not promote it enough in last 50 years then how is that going to change now??

Posted by Romanticstud on (January 21, 2014, 6:16 GMT)

As a South African cricket supporter ... I stand by the CSA decision not because I am South African, but because the bill will be unfair on anyone that is not part of the big three ... it would give India, England and Australia licence to do as they please ... Maybe CSA should form a breakaway from the ICC with Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri-Lanka, Afghanistan, Ireland, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Nepal, UAE, New Zealand, West -Indies and all the other associate countries ... Maybe let all of the countries play test cricket with South Africa, Sri-Lanka, West Indies, New Zealand, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Ireland forming the Premier league and the rest in a minor league with a 4 year league. At the end of each 4-year period the bottom team of the Premiership will be relegated and the top team of the minor league will be promoted.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 6:16 GMT)

I seriously doubt that if the big 3 play only each other for two years, how much public interest will be left...

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 5:36 GMT)

I don't know about International media but Zaka Ashraf has opposed this according to local Pakistani media

Posted by rawishz81 on (January 21, 2014, 5:35 GMT)

Good job SA! Lets see who stands with you. IPL money will play a big part

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 5:32 GMT)

What a cricketer at heart will say about this proposal: "This is not cricket".

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 5:28 GMT)

I wonder what Bangladesh Cricket Board will do. If the T20 World Cup and Asia cup are at stakes, would BCB have the guts to take the steps what needed to be taken? also in Bangladesh pressure does not only comes from the cricket board. If this happens BD would be one sorry cricketing country. As for as current FTP goes, Bangladesh haven't played a single test match in India in 14 years. I wonder what it might become a zillion and 14 years? so, #letskillcricket.

Posted by nazmul198 on (January 21, 2014, 5:20 GMT)

The revamp proposal will be good for business.So let the big three to implement the proposal and do business.For the rest, my suggestion is to form a World cricket council/federation without big three and promote the game. Everyone's purpose will be served.

Posted by TATTUs on (January 21, 2014, 5:05 GMT)

Well done CSA. But they should also worry about the crowd in the grounds. In the recently concluded IND-SA series there was sparsely any crowd even when SA is the no1 team. SA great Kallis retiring also could not bring the crowd in. It was sad and shocking. And this not for tests only. Event the T20 tournament happening there is also not much crowded as I see it on TV. Infact only in ENG and AUS is there sizable crownd for Test cricket.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 4:58 GMT)

PCB has decided to go strongly against this "controversial draft" & they are working to collect logical reasons & put them forward in the meeting to be held last week of this month. It's very sad to know that New Zealand Cricket Board is considering this draft as "necessarily not a bad thing for cricket" despite strong disagreement from the great Martin Crowe. Other boards like WICB & SLC should join hands with PCB & CSA otherwise it will be too late for them & cricket.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 4:57 GMT)

Once again, ICC aka Indian Cricket Council is trying to kill the world sport. CSA, PCB, BCB, NZC, SLC and WICB should oppose this and boycott all sort of cricketing because this is just another way of killing the sport we love and cherish.

Posted by Cobra0077 on (January 21, 2014, 4:54 GMT)

Shame on ECB and CA to join along with the most corrupt one and 1 further question to ECB and that is "Is this still a gentlemen's game", further my admiration for CA has also fallen to the lowest level.

Posted by Rajah_skn on (January 21, 2014, 4:52 GMT)

I thing even the general public from India, Aus, and Eng will not support for this proposal. It is just few big business man's from BCCI, Aus, Eng wanted to make more money in to their pocket. If any team thinks "country first", not 4 votes, all 7 votes should be put against this proposal. But as moshec said, the 3 biggie's already worked behind the scene games. Is there anyway, the general public can show their objections towards this proposal?. Thank you CSA, all cricket lovers are behind you.

Posted by wazza0508 on (January 21, 2014, 4:51 GMT)

Thank you CSA for taking a stand. I cannot believe the response from Martin Sneddon. Im ashamed to be a NZder. I love this game. The game comes first and the only the only way it will flourish in the future is if all participants have an equal say. Australia's breathtaking arrogance over the years towards NZ cricket is well documented. Neigghbours yet do little to help foster the game by playing us more regularly. Look at the contributions NZ ha made to Aussie sport over the years...rugby, League, basketball, netball.. Australian cricket should be ashamed. Its all very well wanting to be top of the pile but when that pile is excrement.....

Posted by Shan_Karthic on (January 21, 2014, 4:47 GMT)

@JayPeg: SA was 35th in last Summer Olympics (2012); India was 37th. In the previous one (2008), India was 50th while SA finished at 70. That does not present the picture of a country doing great in many sports compared to another country. Or do SA sportsmen take a sabbatical during the years Olympics is held?

Posted by wapuser on (January 21, 2014, 4:43 GMT)

It's time for PCB and BCB to forget their past differences and be united and stand by CSA to protest against this robbery, hijack attempt. If they don't listen then let these three to be sidelined and play continuous triangular series among themselves. We I'll see how much revenue they make from that. SLC should also stand by CSA, PCB, BCB because it's India who thwarted their attempt to establish a T20 league.

Posted by Cobra0077 on (January 21, 2014, 4:43 GMT)

Does this mean that CA along with ECB are tagging along with the crooked one too? If that is true then I hope the US board does not join the cricket before this massive mess is cleared up.

Posted by NY-NY on (January 21, 2014, 4:41 GMT)

Dont forget The big three only need four more votes a total of seven to pass this cowardly plan. NZ has already shown they will do whatever Aus ask them to do. I expect Zim, WI and Bangladesh to do the same. That leave SL, Pak and CSA - their votes dont mean a thing. You seriously think the Big Three didnt do their homework and made sure they already have the votes before giving out so called Draft Proposal to members. The future of cricket is toasted-sadly.

Posted by Cobra0077 on (January 21, 2014, 4:36 GMT)

The old saying e "one bad apple can spoil the whole bunch" is so true and we all know who that bad/rotten apple is ( cricinfo will not allow that rotten apple being named). Power to the #1 test team in the world (I'm not from SA, but, I believe in being fair ) and hope they not let up.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 4:33 GMT)

I think South Africa should pull out. I would let the remaining players go & play in other countries for the counties & let the big 3 get on with it...it won't be long before the cricket fans are bored.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 4:33 GMT)

Someone had to come out strong on this and stop this domination of these cash rich nations.Hope CSA is one that starts off. Being an Indian i feel ashamed looking at the way BCCI is going about with this issue. Dear BCCI, you have hundreds of millions and you have millions of fools like me (Fans) who are ready to do anything for cricket. Many countries don't even have money to pay to the players forget about the million rupee rewards. Please let other countries grow and let there be competitive cricket.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 4:30 GMT)

It is for a just cause that CA, BCCI and ECB are trying to make these changes. Imagine the goodness that comes out of it to cricket. They will provide a lot of money to ICC. Of course, it will become an Oligarchy then. The other boards will not have a say. And of course ECB's and CA's plan of staying in the VITO group are foolish dreams. Soon, BCCI will be the world police in cricket, like USA. Despite all this Hitler regime possibilities, imagine the goodness that comes out of it - Money and more money to cricket.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 4:24 GMT)

What CSA doing is right.No other sports is like this.If things like this continues it is better other countries like srilanka,pakistan and others to let the world cup to be played between these three countries.Dont know whether icc is international cricket council or indian cricket council.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 4:23 GMT)

Bravo CSA. At-least someone have the balls to publicly come out and explain their view. I hope Pakistan will follow suit as well other boards beside the big 3.

What I don't understand is why ECB and CA are in cahoots with BCCI about cricket, they are very involved in FIFA/ RLIF and both these bodies are for the welfare and development of the Games itself, not for the pockets of certain boards.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 4:08 GMT)

True leadership shown by CSA. I hope that PCB stands with them after all they have signed MOU. Only concern is that PCB might be blackmailed by ICC (BCCI) regarding bringing the International cricket back to Pakistan

Posted by Kazi_Rajib on (January 21, 2014, 3:52 GMT)

This is ridiculous, nondemocratic & very pathetic proposal. How come to think about it! SA, SL, PK, BD, WI, ZM should be unit against this type of funny proposal.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 3:50 GMT)

wishful thinking, but what if we have Rahul Dravid heading BCCI in an year or 2? We may never have to question existence of Tests & smaller nations...

Posted by SportsObserver on (January 21, 2014, 3:49 GMT)

Sad thing is even CSA would be all right if it was "Big 4" instead of "Big 3". No body seems to have any principles and everyone is looking out for their own interests. The other day Martin Crowe wrote how two tier cricket would be unfair but hinted supporting "Big 8". As long as you are on that "Big" group everything would seem fair to you. @Icky and @ Shayan Khan, support both of you. Those "Officials" who drafted this bill should be fired. I would rather watch a game of cricket than entertainment of cricket. This is a real sport, not Bollywood entertainment or sports-entertainment like WWE.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 3:40 GMT)

SA will probably win matches on the cricket field but they are no match for the greed, manipulations, and power of the BCCI. The problem is that Cricket is played in very few countries and it is only in the subcontinent that you have massive crowds, huge fan base, and corporates willing to invest. Any day Soccer will be the first choice sport but luckily (or unfortunately) the subcontinent is not built for it. Therefore, cricket thrives. India with its population bring in the money. Nothing wrong in Indians watching their own countrymen playing. But the power is in the hands of wrong people. While they can devise means to get more share of the money because they invested ore, they cannot frame rules that make them immune to relegation etc.

Cricket without money. Pure test matches. Goodness. Honesty. LOL. These things do not exist. And why should it? We let politicians, movie stars, businesses, etc etc get away with anything. Hope atleast cricket is not affected. Let them eat the money

Posted by Armchair_Expert on (January 21, 2014, 3:40 GMT)

I am an Indian and support Indian cricket team. However, I despise this new proposal: Firstly, even if there are overall financial benefits to smaller countries, which I doubt there are, the idea of taking over by a select few and controlling the game is simply at the other end of the diagonal from a "cricketing spirit" point of view. Secondly, the idea of control based on potential revenue generations means that slowly that control would go to India, which brings me to the important next point. Never trust the current BCCI folks to run an organization equitably, besides bringing innovative corruption into ICC (I am assuming ICC is somewhat clean so far, if not squeaky clean), they will make ICC the "Biggest Bully" on earth. I cannot predict the fate of cricket if this ever happens.

Posted by Keithnkin on (January 21, 2014, 3:36 GMT)

I thought UK, INDIA as well as Australia were bastions of Democracy! Very disappointed with NZ Cricket. Be careful what you wish for, the world is watching. Bravo CSA.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 3:33 GMT)

This proposal can only bring doom to International Cricket. The fact that ECB, BCCI and CA bring about most of the revenue, doesn't make them 'Gods' of Cricket. As an Indian, my view is that this proposal should be scraped for good

Posted by Matt.au on (January 21, 2014, 3:30 GMT)

The upcoming tests in SA will be an opportunity for the SA public to support CSA in the best way possible - attend the games.

I truly hope that the grounds are full to capacity, bringing in much needed revenue.

There are a lot of SA supporters on cricinfo telling us Australian supporters how SA are going to thrash Aus. Cool, fine with me - get to the ground, pay a few bucks and support your team financially and vocally at the ground.

I also hope that CSA is doing everything possible to attract capacity crowds to show potential investors that cricket in SA is worth investing in - they get bang for their bucks.

Don't get me wrong, I want Aus to win every test.

I also want CSA to have a financial win on every test so they have the money to attract more players to the game in SA.

It's tough competing against rugby union in SA - CSA have to find a way to start chiselling away at the competition,

If they can't make handsome dividends out of series against India and Aus shame on them

Posted by SaroarIslam on (January 21, 2014, 3:29 GMT)

The so called big three is trying to kill the cricket. .if this proposal is accept than no other new nation will not come to play cricket. .and once cricket will die. .so protect the cricket for cricket lovers

Posted by kashi524 on (January 21, 2014, 3:28 GMT)

Its surprising Pakistan haven't said anything in response. I was believing they would reply faster than others .......

Posted by Matt.au on (January 21, 2014, 3:28 GMT)

Posted by Xolile - SA is the most successful Test playing nation of the last 50 years.

That hysterical and untrue statement is exactly what SA don't need at this time.

For a start, SA didn't even play tests in a large part of the last 50 years.

By my rough count, in the last 50 years Australia won 221 tests, England 166, West Indies 117 and Sth Africa 98.

What CSA do need is fans like you attending games, if you do, great. If you don't get along and hopefully others will follow and help CSA financially.

Posted by McGorium on (January 21, 2014, 3:10 GMT)

@ Xolile: What on earth are you talking about? SA hadn't played tests for much of the last 50 years, or have you forgotten that unpleasant chapter in SA history called apartheid? How do you expect SAF players to be in test hall of fame if they've hardly played any tests at all? Greme Pollock (I'm assuming that's the Pollock you refer to) played just 20 tests! SA was re-inducted to test cricket only in 1992 (with strong support from the BCCI, I might add. I believe SAF's first test after returning to the fold was against India). So, it's only been 21 years in the last 50 years. From your list, only Donald ever played for an extended period in tests, and sure, you could argue that he should be in the list. Perhaps Steyn will eventually make it to that list, but don't fault the ICC (and the rest of the sporting world) for taking the correct political decision.

Posted by chechong0114 on (January 21, 2014, 2:51 GMT)

The more I look at this scenario I see so much potential for the other test playing nations to capitalise on. The issue here is wealth and influence. CA, BCCI and ECB all have them. To the other member nations I say strengthen ties right now and work to helping each other. Hire an independent team of creative money making professionals that can market the game and make it more appealing to the sport loving public of the various nations, start experimenting new things until u find the right working remedy. Some of these are Day/Night test matches, eliminate all drawn rubbers and implement a must win series scenario, add some color to the test cricket arena ever so often, upgrade the status of all the series to mirror the prestige of the Ashes series. Just some of the things they can do to market the game better and create more passion in to get more fans to love the game. Somebody has to be bold, if not things will remain the way they are with ECB, BCCI and CA dominating everything.

Posted by Caveman. on (January 21, 2014, 2:46 GMT)

Excellent. I hope rest of the boards follow suit. Enough arm twisting by BCCI.

Posted by heathrf1974 on (January 21, 2014, 2:42 GMT)

Well done CSA. What the BCCI, ECB and CA are doing is a disgrace.

Posted by YogifromNY on (January 21, 2014, 2:41 GMT)

Shame on the Big Three for this power grab. As an Indian fan living in the US, I must say I am ashamed of the way BCCI has brought ill repute to this hallowed game, not just money. I hope the other boards stand behind SA and reject this absurd proposal.

Posted by i-s-r-a-r on (January 21, 2014, 2:35 GMT)

Good to see South Africa stepping up. Someone has to lead here to prevent this. Pakistan should step up too and join South Africa in this to take a stand.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 2:07 GMT)

Back to pre 90 situation. Thats not good for cricket and its development. Regarding revenue, its fine if they share higher than the other nation since a major revenue generate from these 3

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 2:03 GMT)

Cricket South Africa was warned. Time they realise wh0 is in-charge.

Big mistake to appoint Logart.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 2:02 GMT)

Weldon CSA ... come on sri Lanka, Pakistan west Indies Bangladesh.. otherwise we all will suffer..

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 1:59 GMT)

even I as an Aussie can see how silly this would be if it got through, can't believe it's even been proposed.....

Posted by getsetgopk on (January 21, 2014, 1:55 GMT)

All it needs is 3 more boards to make it 4 in total to throw out these proposals. It needs 7 votes to pass. I'm thinking Pak, SA, Zim and SL to vote no, let it fail and then the fun begins. The big three are supposed to break away from ICC and if that happens, then its not our headache anymore. Let the fans of these countries take care of it IF they want to play, will be more than welcome, if not then they always have the option to broe each other until it starts to smell like yogurt. The weakest among the four seems to be SL, despite playing against IND countless of times over the passed decade, they still have no idea on how to pay their player's salaries. If they see a carrot big enough, I think they'll go for it. NZ is already sold out, WI and BD are highly unlikely to stand against it, they've always been in pockets of BCCI so it comes down to SL.

Posted by IPSY on (January 21, 2014, 1:41 GMT)

This is nothing but cricket apartheid and we in the Caribbean are calling on the bigots who put the paper together, to withdraw it immediately!

Posted by DaredevilsUnlimited on (January 21, 2014, 1:38 GMT)

So happy to know that at least one country is there to oppose this monopoly. We all know who is the prime mover of the proposal it should be nipped in bud.Gentleman's cricket will be at stake hope others will follow u i am sure.

Posted by wijeya on (January 21, 2014, 1:18 GMT)

Thank god for the top test nation. Take the lead CSA.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (January 21, 2014, 1:11 GMT)

This is very bold from CSA. I applaud them but they can't do it alone. The other boards including Cricket Ireland and the associates need to stand together and voice their displeasure. Doing so would mean total distancing or an 'embargo' of sorts from the BCCI, ECB and CA on these nations. But in order to save the integrity of cricket, some insults need to be tolerated and its likely CSA could be totally isolated by the big 3 by not playing any bilateral series against them, also preventing SA players to participate in the IPL, BBL and county cricket. But that shouldn't bog them. I am proud of you CSA. This has gone too far. Time for PCB, BCB, WICB, and NZC to follow suit.

Posted by cleankiwi on (January 21, 2014, 1:09 GMT)

Well done CSA! If Martin Snedden and NZC had an ounce of integrity they would be backing CSA against this heist all the way.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 1:08 GMT)

well done south africa...its extremely important that all the teams realise this and stand against this proposal....this will damage cricket so much and the damage will be irrepairable..even if you look now the ipl,bbl etc are entertainment and not the real cricket...other countries may become good t20 sides but the decline of the lesser sides in test is imminent if this decision is taken...

Posted by wapuser on (January 21, 2014, 1:06 GMT)

The small 7 (those who are not the big 3) should simply derecognize the Indian Board at the meeting and support an alternative body to run their cricket. Allow a break-away faction like the group that started the rival Indian Premier League to select teams, contract sponsors, collect TV rights and take over running of the game. It is funny that South Africa was the most vocal union opposing this break-away league wh3n it happened, thus protecting the Indian board, and now 7 years later are being kicked in the teeth as thanks.

Posted by KingOwl on (January 21, 2014, 0:49 GMT)

Good to hear that SA is ready for the fight. Cannot allow the money grabbers to destroy cricket. Otherwise, cricket will end up like football, playing club games day in day out. We want to watch international cricket, not some useless club cricket.

Posted by Humdingers on (January 21, 2014, 0:48 GMT)

@Xolile - you can blame your country's years of Aparteid for that mate.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 0:31 GMT)

Wellcome SA .... Hope SA will take a lead role to unite others.

Posted by Mprezd on (January 21, 2014, 0:19 GMT)

Thank god that CSA has come forward. As a kiwi I've been extremely embarassed by NZC's pandering to the BCCI in recent times. I can understand their apprehension at poking the bear that is the BCCI, but this draft proposal appears to go too far in terms of the protection offered to the BCCI, CA and ECB. I don't have a problem if they receive more of the overall revenue as they do definitely generate the majority, but we need to esnure that there is fairness amongst the other unions.

As many commentators have said, cricket is cyclical and all teams will likely have their day in the sun. In the 2002/2003 season NZ did rise to 3rd in the test rankings. Admittedly they've dropped well down since, but witht he little amount of test cricket they get to play vs some other nations it isn't a surprise.

I hope that the other boards support CSA and NZC realise their mistake and start backing cricket globally rather than the new 'old boys network'

Posted by trigga315 on (January 20, 2014, 23:57 GMT)

@Muhammad Shayan Khan, Would you rather watch good cricket or would you rather watch low quality cricket. The more money in the sport the better athletes it produces for instance if players were being paid 100k at the top level rather than 1 million then plenty of players would go on and play other sports. Think about it Sobers (golf), Vivian Richards (boxing/gold), Border(baseball), Waugh brothers (football), David Gower (football), Ian Botham (football), Simon O'Donnell (AFL), Geoff Marsh (AFL), Keith Miller (AFL) and Compton (Rugby) were all close to or did play other sports at close to the top level and if the elite players were being paid 100k they might of all done so today.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 23:39 GMT)

New Zealand needs to get behind CSA too. South Africa have an amazing Test team, one to make all other nations jealous. I am from New Zealand and I would like to see us join CSA in the fight against this new proposal.

Also I would like to see how we can start up games again in Pakistan and also include teams such as Ireland, Afganistan, Canada and the Netherlands more.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 23:30 GMT)

Well courage from CSA.It will be very difficult for them cause teams like Bangladesh and Srilanka listen to India,while Newzealand gives importance to Australia.So the only chance is to get support from zimbabwe and westindies,if they Pakistan will also do it and there will less than 7 boards voting for it.Wish the best for cricket come westindies.

Posted by Little_Aussie_Battler on (January 20, 2014, 23:29 GMT)

South Africans just cannot be bothered attending test cricket. Note the swathes of empty seating at the recent India series. Only now the free lunch is being taken away do you complain. What cheek!

So, rather than just taking money out of ICC to subsidise the lack of interest, how about growing attendances and interest South Africa?

If not, then what is there to complain about? Australians and English go to test cricket in droves. Even in India if Australia or England is playing test cricket fills grounds.

Posted by Flighted_kiwi on (January 20, 2014, 23:17 GMT)

As much as I suspect that SA would have done nothing if they had been included with the 'big 3' (and some online comments from SA fans suggest their only issue with the proposal was SA's exclusion rather than the moral imperative) their board is to be commended for standing up to the bully boys. As a proud kiwi I am gutted by Martin Snedden's comments - a man I previously had a lot of respect for. There is so much that is wrong about the proposal it is hard to know where to start but I was reading some comments by Ali Bacher remembering Nelson Mandela and his support of South Africa's cricket readmission and the 'Friendship Tour' by India in 1992-93. I wonder what Mandela would have made of this and the country that he embraced now joining with 2 others to practice cricket apartheid by creating preferential treatment for some to the exclusion and detriment of others? Of the killing of democracy and equality and the most powerful using their status to oppress and disadvantage others.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 23:08 GMT)

I have a question: What would happen if Aus, Ind and England become number n, n-1 and n-2, Who would be demoted. Some team better than them?

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 23:06 GMT)

I was expecting and hoping for this. Though the intentions may be worthwhile as they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions. At present the ICC general committee should be made up of the top six cricketing nations. The problem here is that one nation can bring undue stress on other smaller members to get their way (DRS being a case in point). Would the BCCI accept that with a triumvirate or quadrumvirate that they would be outvoted?

Posted by shammini on (January 20, 2014, 23:04 GMT)

I am praying for other boards to wake the hell up like CSA and voice their concerns too. If other boards chicken out, they are not only disappointing their cricketers and public, they are ruining it for every cricket lover, for years to come - concerned British Indian.

Posted by PuddingnPie on (January 20, 2014, 23:02 GMT)

I say if this happens the other nations, SA, PAK, SL, NZ , WI and Bangaldesh. boycott the worldcup. A tournament involving these 6 teams would be far more interesting than a triangular "world cup" involving "Eng, Aus and India" England is a poor ODI outfit in any case. So its always going to be a Aus v India final. have fun with that and your TV ratings. This proposal is the most ridiculous idea to ever come out of the ICC. If England and Aussies were the bully cricket boards in the early 80's that everyone including BCCI depised, then life has come a full circle cos now the BCCI is the biggest bully out there, with the so called financial clout. As long as the indian public laps up the nonsense being put out in its various forms there will always be sponsors and money for the BCCI.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 22:57 GMT)

agreed. sack the members. the move is in conflict with the movement.

Posted by dinosaurus on (January 20, 2014, 22:38 GMT)


"SA is the most successful Test playing nation of the last 50 years." Obviously you failed to note the performances of the all-conquering West Indians, to say nothing of the achievements of Australia; both teams maintained an incredible series of successes for a very long period of time. In the case of Australia, for most of the time since SA's readmission to Test status. I think you need to realise that silly statements like yours aren't "analysis". They're just a statement of prejudice.

Posted by Tweety20 on (January 20, 2014, 22:21 GMT)

Good call by CSA.we cricket lovers completely support it and we back you on this. Enough is enough. We,the global fans of cricket,demand other boards unite with CSA to oppose this proposal.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 22:18 GMT)

i support for CSA ..BCB should support CSA to save cricket

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 22:17 GMT)

ave it geeza! Let's stand up here guys, did you notice how all three teams who might run the system cannot win test matches away from home; England, India and Australia

Posted by nervousnineties on (January 20, 2014, 22:12 GMT)

Congratulations to CSA for standing up to this ill-advised plan.

All true cricket lovers should add their voice in opposition to this idea which is little short of an ambush on the smaller, less powerful Unions.

I sincerely hope that there will be enough strength in unified opposition from right across the cricket world to this plan and that ICC President Alan Isaac will show the correct leadership for the sake of the global game.

Posted by Kamran_Pakistan on (January 20, 2014, 21:57 GMT)

If it goes that far, the "probable" daring boards like PCB, WICB and SLC along with the "confirmed" darer CSA should join hands later and boycott playing all forms of cricket. The only thing that I see running is the ipl and may be these three power hungry boards playing among each other. Imagine the Cricketing World without the likes of Dale Steyn, Saeed Ajmal, Chris Gayle etc, let's see how much crowd they can attract to matches and above all, how much fairness they can induce in the already suspected encounters. I mean how on earth can you curtail your tour to the World Number 1 Test team and nobody is there to object, just depriving the world of seeing great players like Dale Steyn, Amla, De Villiers doing wonders on the field. That's how to handle the worst case scenario.

Posted by Cric_fever_forever on (January 20, 2014, 21:41 GMT)

Good Going CSA we neutral fans are with u........... every one should raise voice against this joke!!!! Save Cricket Cricket Fans

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 21:20 GMT)

@Xolile -- SA is the most successful test playing nation of the last 50 years? You can't be serious?

Totally agree with you other points though...

Posted by Shongololo on (January 20, 2014, 21:09 GMT)

Fight the good fight, Haroon Lorgat. You might be the little 'David' staring down 'Goliath' (aka BCCI) but I can assure you, the vast majority of people with an inkling for justice and an abhorrence of egotistical bullies will support you. As they say, evil thrives when good people do nothing. The remaining seven - and associate members like Ireland and Afghanistan - must rally together to make sure that this does not happen - and if it does, we must make sure we establish a breakaway body that flourishes. Believe me, within five or so years, the 'Big Three' will be so thoroughly bored with playing each other only each year, India will be so tired of overseas beatings and England, well, they'll just be tired of constant humiliating hammerings, home and away. And when they come crawling back, cap in hand, they return on our terms - just, equitable terms. I'm often critical of CSA but credit where it is due. Well done, guys, now for the rest to put up their hands.

Posted by Alexk400 on (January 20, 2014, 21:03 GMT)

Kidnapping of cricket by new cricket cabal.

Posted by chechong0114 on (January 20, 2014, 21:03 GMT)

The ICC has always pride itself on maintaining a clean sport and stamping out any and everything they claim brings the game into disrepute. But the truth of the matter is the ICC in itself is a disrepute and this situation shows how much of it they are. However in as much as I agree with CSA move to finally take a stand against grave injustice I think its too little too late, not to mention they cannot do it alone. It is time for the remaining boards to make a joint stand with each other, make their voices heard and demand that equality for everyone remain priority in the sport. These boards also need to become more creative and take more risks as well, starting with day/night test matches, end to all drawn rubbers in test cricket, more color in the longer version of the game, upgrade the status of all series and anything that will lend more appeal to the sport. If these things are done all the other boards will soon be able to match the profit of the top three.

Posted by dillyk on (January 20, 2014, 20:57 GMT)

Just like nelson mandela fought for equality and justice, so every other fan from every nation must appose this power grab. We all love cricket because it is a great game, not because of how much the boards get payed or the players get payed. This money grab will destroy cricket in countries like SA, WI, NZ, PAK & SL. I beg of fans from Aus, Eng & Ind to write to your boards & demand that this be scrapped forever. Otherwise there will never be players like kallis/steyn/abv or ajmal/younis/misbah or gayle/lara/chanderpaul or sanga/mahela/murili or bond/fleming/taylor.. again the rest of the nations might as well just play with the associate nations An unjust law or right is no law at all

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 20:48 GMT)

Well done which is what I posted on facebook about this is something both CSA and PCB in Pakistan need to do together BOTH have the viewers and fans to create a suer block with the lesser markets, unfortunately as per tradition Pakistan is busy still working who the chief is there, so its up to CSA....Pakistan should blindly follow CSA in tandem and veto this ASAP! I can understand India is a large market but frankly the Aussie and English markets put TOGETHER don't even add up to half the number of Pakistan's avid followers.......this is merely a power grab and if not stopped hope PCB and CSA both BAN tours to these three altogether to teach them a lesson! enough is enough......Haroon Lorgat championed this cause we should continue this. India is merely retaliating for Lorgat with CSA simple as that, Pakistan needs to get on board ASAP and then lobby Sri-lanka to tow its line, may be CSA can convince Bangladesh as Pakistan cricket going through a low phase of relations with them.

Posted by kickassPakistan on (January 20, 2014, 20:43 GMT)

we are headed toward's a serious cricket conflict amongst the nations,only because of greed and hunger of the three boards. they want to create a security council in the gentleman's game . a sure recipe for disaster. thank you CSA for standing up to these bullies.

Posted by Shiny-Side on (January 20, 2014, 20:43 GMT)

We are right behind you CSA. Even though I don't think CSA is in a position to "demand" anything, I applaud their coming forward and taking a stand at last. The short sightedness of the administrators who just want more money in their pockets in the short term and do not care about the damage that will be done to the game of cricket in the long term, is inexcusable. The richness of cricket is in the diversity of the nations that play this wonderful game and the characters that have coloured this game's history and traditions.

Posted by nervousnineties on (January 20, 2014, 20:41 GMT)

All true cricket lovers should put the interests of the global game ahead of petty selfish national interests.

We all need to write/email our national unions (as I have done) urging them to oppose these plans which are not in the interests of the game globally.

We need to stand up to the bullying of many by a powerful few.

Chris Nenzani of CSA is to be applauded for his courage in writing an open letter to stand up to this planned 'coup'. I sincerely hope that Alan Isaac has the cahunas to stand up and show real leadership on behalf of the Cricket world.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 20:35 GMT)

Thank you, CSA!

Posted by moshec on (January 20, 2014, 20:23 GMT)

At last someone is man enough to stand up against big bully BCCI. If 7 votes out of 10 is needed to enforce this proposal SA will need another 3 to vote with them to squash the motion. Surely they can count on Pakistan but who else would dare stand up to the bullies? NZ - no, Sri Lanka probably not, WI probably not either, Bangladesh probably and Zim yes(if they even have a vote.) Bottom line is the 'big 3' have probably done their behind the scenes lobbying already and wouldn't have advanced the motion now unless they were certain it would pass. So ironic to see the once proud ECB & CA fall in line with their new 'master' having to protect their own portions from shrinking further.

Posted by Philly.rocks on (January 20, 2014, 20:16 GMT)

We expect CSA to lead from the front to all other boards as they do in the playing field to be ranked as number one. Lets show the mighty power houses trio that that their are lives beyond you three and we cant let anybody to rob the game of cricket.

Posted by sohailmalik1985 on (January 20, 2014, 20:13 GMT)

Where is PCB, SLCB and wesindies???? at least they should stand with CSA. If these four will unite than these amendments never passed because 7 votes are needed.

Posted by JayPeg on (January 20, 2014, 19:54 GMT)

After the shortened India tour my interest in cricket is waning. This is just another hammer blow on the way to me losing interest entirely and watching other sports. Luckily SA is good in many sports, while the poor Indians have only their wannabe number one cricket team to support. Perhaps also this is England's way to ensure they have 12 South African born players in future - the best 12! I could now care less for this game - this continual power hunger has become tedious - and they supposedly want to expand the game worldwide while consolidating power in 3 countries. Cricket be damned ......

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 19:52 GMT)

Very good move, all the rest of the boards should join CSA.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 19:50 GMT)

well done. small teams need CSA to stand as csa is ranked 1 in tests and a strong board. now other small boards will look towards it. CSA will have to lead the remaining 7 group.

Posted by sohailmalik1985 on (January 20, 2014, 19:42 GMT)

Thats good we are expecting this from CSA. They should come forward and lead from the front and get other boards on the same page. i am sure if they succeed to unite other boards than greedy so called top three will do nothing. Hats off CSA. good call

Posted by BellCurve on (January 20, 2014, 19:41 GMT)

SA is the most successful Test playing nation of the last 50 years. Yet SA only has 2 members in the ICC hall of fame. Whilst there is no room for Donald, Pollock, Procter, Barlow and Faulkner, significantly inferior English players such as Gower and Gooch have been accepted. Bottom line: life is not fair. Conclusion: the BCCI, CA and ECB will continue to do as they please. I admire Lorgat's fighting spirit, but he will not win.

Posted by ICKY on (January 20, 2014, 19:39 GMT)

Moreover we, the fans demand resignation or otherwise firing of all those executives. who were behind this heineous idea to murder the game of cricket. These executives should take these ideas to their home after resignations. The game of cricket needs people with good intentions and clear consience, the way the game if cricket is, THE GENTLMAN'S GAME. There is absolutely no place for such people in this game. Please fans, unite to get rid of these executives.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 19:32 GMT)

Excellent Decision Cricket SA Waiting for a similar response from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Srilanka & Windies atleast now that NewZealand cricket has shown what a little lilly it is. I would rather watch cricket without money but involving the whole world rather than with millions of dollars & involving only three nations. because I love cricket. Rather than being a fat old politician whose best knowledge of cricket is what colour the ball is. fingers crossed

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