ICC news September 1, 2014

India rise to No. 1 in ODIs

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India have risen to No. 1 in the ODI rankings, while Australia toppled to fourth place after their defeat to Zimbabwe on Sunday.

Elton Chigumbura lifting his No. 10-ranked team to only their second success against Australia - the first in 31 years - has meant South Africa and Sri Lanka have leapfrogged the free-falling Australia, who were joint-No. 1 with India ahead of that match. India had equalled Australia's points tally following their victory at Trent Bridge, in the third ODI against England on August 30.

However, the situation at the top remains quite fluid. India will retain their place at No. 1 if they beat England in the remaining two matches of the Royal London ODI series and Australia beat South Africa at least once over the coming week - either on Tuesday or, if they make the final, on Saturday. South Africa will move to the top if they win their two remaining league games and the subsequent final, even if India win the fourth and fifth ODIs.

Australia, too, have a chance at reclaiming No. 1 if they beat South Africa in their remaining league stage game and again in the final. Concurrently, though, India would have to lose at least one of their two ODIs to England.

India had been the No. 1 side when they visited New Zealand in January, but lost the top rank after failing to win a match there.

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  • KeshavPagar on September 6, 2014, 0:04 GMT

    Sri Lanka lost 5 consecutive bilateral series against India so keep dreaming.

  • Sinhaya on September 5, 2014, 0:31 GMT

    @KeshavPagar, Sri Lanka are definite favorites. We are the best in Asia. Keep dreaming.

  • KeshavPagar on September 4, 2014, 13:45 GMT

    @Sinhaya LOL u Srilankas are so optimitic.Sri Lanka can win ODI only against weak teams like Bangladesh and England,but lost to South Africa in SL.

  • KeshavPagar on September 4, 2014, 13:39 GMT

    We are No 1 is ODI and t20 but need to improve in Tests.

  • Sageleaf on September 4, 2014, 13:37 GMT

    Hey...Mr Ankit Agrawal, you missed out what i said here..."This is my opinion" and you have your own right for your opinion. I do not have to see the past 10 to 12 years...SL has played brilliant cricket during that time and reached the finals in most of the ICC tournaments. I feel Indians find it very difficult to stomach when SL does well. Even Virat Kohli told me to watch out for T20 world cup because India is going trash SL. But I said no way...and SL won the match. it will very interesting to see another India SL ODI series. Australia and New Zealand is a neutral venue and lets see who's gonna perform well. SL is humble in defeat and in victory also love to be the underdog so they perform well. SL is also is very innovative so watch out...

  • Sinhaya on September 4, 2014, 11:32 GMT

    @Abaa, we know how everything will be done to favor India in the CWC 2015. But I have pure faith in my team to deliver the goods. I know Angelo Mathews thrives under most difficulty and will prove a point. 2012 T20 world cup, India managed to get all matches at RPS Colombo so that they can save travel time and get used to just 1 venue. BCCI will use all tricks possible to make things easy for India and make the world cup impossible for others.

  • on September 4, 2014, 10:46 GMT

    @ Sageleaf , mr. see the last 10 to 12 years record of India and Srilanka than compare it against any team in any format out side home or at home ground . Indian performance is much much better than Lankans . and then coment :) LOL .

  • karnamgiridhar on September 4, 2014, 7:05 GMT

    well for years, when Australia adnd south Africa ruled ranking tables, the point system was fabulous. Now india come there as no. 1 team, points system is aweful. LOL, ROFL.

  • Abaa on September 4, 2014, 6:38 GMT

    Posted by Sinhaya on (September 4, 2014, 1:04 GMT) India never ever ever ever ever lose any game according to Indian fans. FACT: India are an easily shreddable thrashable unit. India are the best bowling attack ever according to Indian fans. FACT: Indian bowling can be torn apart into pieces.

    You really don't get it do you? You are stating "FACT" and coming up with something very amateurish. If any Indian fan said that India has never ever lost any games, they are being stupid. Not even the near perfect Australian team of the 2000s were completely unbeatable. India is definitely shreddable and thrashable. But then so is any team out there! Can this be done easily? Most certainly not! I don't think any Indian fan is deluded enough to consider their bowling attack the best ever. Yes they can be torn to pieces. Everyone knows that when Australia toured, India conceded 300 plus scores like a billion times. But who ended up winning that series? So Australia conceded just as much didn't it

  • Abaa on September 4, 2014, 6:22 GMT

    Posted by on (September 3, 2014, 10:41 GMT) @ Abaa, yes ICC was biased and gave some baseless bonus points to Bangladesh to make sure they are above Zimbabwe! LOL! Except for 3/4 matches, Bangladesh played really well over the last one year and they lost some close matches. There is a series coming up between Bangladesh & Zimbabwe, so that will eventually decide who is better. Keep praying till then.

    Sorry I am not too clear on as to what you mean. Are you saying that Bangladesh has performed better than Zimbabwe over the previous year? Bangladesh is yet to win an ODI this year. They have played over 10 games and lost even to Afghanistan. How does this translate to "played really well"? Lost close matches? Well that is a different way of saying "won nothing" isn't it? Yes we know what happened in the last series. Zimbabwe won 2-1. Keep praying? Praying for what? I am not even from Zimbabwe! Rather than LOL'ing and ROFL'ing maybe you can put forward a logical argument based on facts?

  • KeshavPagar on September 6, 2014, 0:04 GMT

    Sri Lanka lost 5 consecutive bilateral series against India so keep dreaming.

  • Sinhaya on September 5, 2014, 0:31 GMT

    @KeshavPagar, Sri Lanka are definite favorites. We are the best in Asia. Keep dreaming.

  • KeshavPagar on September 4, 2014, 13:45 GMT

    @Sinhaya LOL u Srilankas are so optimitic.Sri Lanka can win ODI only against weak teams like Bangladesh and England,but lost to South Africa in SL.

  • KeshavPagar on September 4, 2014, 13:39 GMT

    We are No 1 is ODI and t20 but need to improve in Tests.

  • Sageleaf on September 4, 2014, 13:37 GMT

    Hey...Mr Ankit Agrawal, you missed out what i said here..."This is my opinion" and you have your own right for your opinion. I do not have to see the past 10 to 12 years...SL has played brilliant cricket during that time and reached the finals in most of the ICC tournaments. I feel Indians find it very difficult to stomach when SL does well. Even Virat Kohli told me to watch out for T20 world cup because India is going trash SL. But I said no way...and SL won the match. it will very interesting to see another India SL ODI series. Australia and New Zealand is a neutral venue and lets see who's gonna perform well. SL is humble in defeat and in victory also love to be the underdog so they perform well. SL is also is very innovative so watch out...

  • Sinhaya on September 4, 2014, 11:32 GMT

    @Abaa, we know how everything will be done to favor India in the CWC 2015. But I have pure faith in my team to deliver the goods. I know Angelo Mathews thrives under most difficulty and will prove a point. 2012 T20 world cup, India managed to get all matches at RPS Colombo so that they can save travel time and get used to just 1 venue. BCCI will use all tricks possible to make things easy for India and make the world cup impossible for others.

  • on September 4, 2014, 10:46 GMT

    @ Sageleaf , mr. see the last 10 to 12 years record of India and Srilanka than compare it against any team in any format out side home or at home ground . Indian performance is much much better than Lankans . and then coment :) LOL .

  • karnamgiridhar on September 4, 2014, 7:05 GMT

    well for years, when Australia adnd south Africa ruled ranking tables, the point system was fabulous. Now india come there as no. 1 team, points system is aweful. LOL, ROFL.

  • Abaa on September 4, 2014, 6:38 GMT

    Posted by Sinhaya on (September 4, 2014, 1:04 GMT) India never ever ever ever ever lose any game according to Indian fans. FACT: India are an easily shreddable thrashable unit. India are the best bowling attack ever according to Indian fans. FACT: Indian bowling can be torn apart into pieces.

    You really don't get it do you? You are stating "FACT" and coming up with something very amateurish. If any Indian fan said that India has never ever lost any games, they are being stupid. Not even the near perfect Australian team of the 2000s were completely unbeatable. India is definitely shreddable and thrashable. But then so is any team out there! Can this be done easily? Most certainly not! I don't think any Indian fan is deluded enough to consider their bowling attack the best ever. Yes they can be torn to pieces. Everyone knows that when Australia toured, India conceded 300 plus scores like a billion times. But who ended up winning that series? So Australia conceded just as much didn't it

  • Abaa on September 4, 2014, 6:22 GMT

    Posted by on (September 3, 2014, 10:41 GMT) @ Abaa, yes ICC was biased and gave some baseless bonus points to Bangladesh to make sure they are above Zimbabwe! LOL! Except for 3/4 matches, Bangladesh played really well over the last one year and they lost some close matches. There is a series coming up between Bangladesh & Zimbabwe, so that will eventually decide who is better. Keep praying till then.

    Sorry I am not too clear on as to what you mean. Are you saying that Bangladesh has performed better than Zimbabwe over the previous year? Bangladesh is yet to win an ODI this year. They have played over 10 games and lost even to Afghanistan. How does this translate to "played really well"? Lost close matches? Well that is a different way of saying "won nothing" isn't it? Yes we know what happened in the last series. Zimbabwe won 2-1. Keep praying? Praying for what? I am not even from Zimbabwe! Rather than LOL'ing and ROFL'ing maybe you can put forward a logical argument based on facts?

  • Sageleaf on September 4, 2014, 6:16 GMT

    People can say anything here and Indian people are the same so am I too. But over all India is not the best team in the world in any format right now. Does anyone know how the rankings work? They will have their own theory but reality what matters. In England SL won the test and ODI series. If India cannot beat England then there is an issue. India lost the test series so badly but they are playing the ODI's really well. I in my opinion feel SL is a better unit than India. Then someone can argue SL has never won a series in India. But India does not perform well outside India. They also have lost main finals few times to SL and recent Asia Cup was one. Guys don't worry about Sanga, Mahela and Dilshan retiring there are many to follow and SL is going to be better under Angelo. SL always had different players who turn up when needed. The World Cup 2015 is going to be wonderful experience to all the other team because of Sri Lanka. Just have patience and observe.

  • Sinhaya on September 4, 2014, 5:19 GMT

    This whole ICC ranking system needs a drastic overhaul. This is totally flawed. Justice will prevail soon.

  • INDSlider on September 4, 2014, 3:25 GMT

    It's not fair Ind and SA in the same group in the WC 2015.

  • Sinhaya on September 4, 2014, 1:04 GMT

    India never ever ever ever ever lose any game according to Indian fans.

    FACT: India are an easily shreddable thrashable unit.

    India are the best bowling attack ever according to Indian fans.

    FACT: Indian bowling can be torn apart into pieces.

  • Sinhaya on September 4, 2014, 0:59 GMT

    This whole ranking system is bias and flawed to favor India at any cost. This must be ignored. Sri Lanka are definitely determined to prove a point by winning the CWC 2015. Definitely Sri Lanka can do it and ruin the hopes of Indian fans.

  • Temuzin on September 3, 2014, 17:50 GMT

    As long as Dhoni is at the helm as captain India will remain top team in ODIs. I will not be surprised if Dhoni may win next world cup for India. By the way a few fans are giving credit to Shashtri for teams number one ranking. That is hilarious. Shashtri just came and ranking is based on entire years points.

  • myStraightTalk on September 3, 2014, 17:19 GMT

    Any cricket playing nation is judged by the skills in Test Matches and not by the shorter version of the game (ODI and T20). India need a good captain for Test. Both Dhoni and Fletcher has to go or resign from Test cricket. Dhoni want to shine in IPL and he use this ODI as a testing ground.

  • vkumar_086 on September 3, 2014, 16:16 GMT

    @ Fast_Track_Bully...yes it is realistic classification, outside of subcontinent its records are pathetic....i classify SL as average team, once KS, LM retires, again it will come in BD-Zimbabwe group

  • vkumar_086 on September 3, 2014, 15:25 GMT

    @Janaka Radampala....at least INDIA won all THREE ICC tourneys outside the subcontinent...SL NONE, in fact NO multilateral tourneys outside subcontinent...NOT even a single series in Australia (not even a single test match there), where next 2015 WC going to held...we cant win matches by depending on ONE or TWO legends, let alone winning World cup is very far....always gets place in easier groups in biggest events....luckiest team of cricket

  • vkumar_086 on September 3, 2014, 14:27 GMT

    @Janaka Radampala....at least INDIA won all THREE ICC tourneys outside the subcontinent...SL NONE, in fact NO multilateral tourneys outside subcontinent...NOT even a single series in Australia (not even a single test match there), where next 2015 WC going to held...we cant win matches by depending on ONE or TWO legends, let alone winning World cup is very far....always gets place in easier groups in biggest events....luckiest team of cricket

  • Fast_Track_Bully on September 3, 2014, 12:08 GMT

    SL were good only at 90s before and after that they are just above WI-thats all. We can group teams based on performance over the years - Aus, SA-excellent , Ind, Pak - very good Eng, SL - good WI, NZ - average , BD, ZIM - below average. That's a truth.

  • on September 3, 2014, 10:41 GMT

    @ Abaa, yes ICC was biased and gave some baseless bonus points to Bangladesh to make sure they are above Zimbabwe! LOL!

    Except for 3/4 matches, Bangladesh played really well over the last one year and they lost some close matches. There is a series coming up between Bangladesh & Zimbabwe, so that will eventually decide who is better. Keep praying till then.

  • fwd079 on September 3, 2014, 9:17 GMT

    Many congratulations India, but I doubt India will remain on top for much longer, the room is very tight with SA poised to grab the spot for long haul. I'd also bet on SA to win World Cup, this might just be their time.

  • on September 3, 2014, 9:09 GMT

    srilanka team always on the top when they facing major tournament like World cup and T20 world cup what about india they only won 2011 world cup. that's too at home ground. what so ever i respect india bcoz they introduce NEW 3days test format to world cricket. they called its THE BIG TEST :D

  • Abaa on September 3, 2014, 8:05 GMT

    @ Sinhaya - You do understand that you are not logically arguing the statistics put forward by vkumar_086, Fast_Track_Bully, et al ??? If you do not wish to look stupid, you really will have to re-butt some of their points. But I can't see you do so anyway since what they are saying is mostly true. The one on one record between India and Sri Lanka is heavily skewed in favour of India. It is hard to argue against statistics like that by just coming up with the Asia Cup 2014 tournament.

    On a side note, how is Bangladesh still ranked above Zimbabwe? Are they being rewarded for having won a single game and having been humiliated by Afghanistan? Zimbabwe performed well against SAF and then beat Australia who was ranked no.1 and still Bangladesh is ranked above them? What a joke! Makes absolutely no sense! Zimbabwe even won the last bilateral ODI tournament between the two sides. So what more can they do?

  • on September 3, 2014, 7:37 GMT

    @Sinhaya: "Sri Lanka are definitely better than India at all times." This you are saying after losing 4 bilateral series to India at home. SL's record against India is poor all over the world be it in England, Australia, SA

  • Sinhaya on September 3, 2014, 7:00 GMT

    @Fast_Track_Bully, I know your bitter anger over Sri Lanka's success this year so I wont waste any time arguing with you. Sri Lanka are definitely better than India at all times and India will definitely not win the CWC 2015.

    Bangladesh? India got thrashed in style in the Asia Cup in Bangladesh and happy about that.

  • on September 3, 2014, 6:43 GMT

    SL cricket is known for:

    1. Getting get a wicket without bowling the ball

    2. Claiming a catch when the ball bounced inches before coming into your hands

    3. Asking for bad light when you are about to loose the game

    4. Bowling No balls intentionally to stop the opposition batsman reaching 100

    5. Playing negative cricket in tests to avoid defeats

    6. Wasting time by asking for doctors, tieing up shoe laces, asking repeatedly for bat, towels, gloves, arm guards and thigh pads

    7. Most importantly proclaiming themselves as world champions despite loosing repeatedly to India, SA, Australia and some times to pakistan

  • vkumar_086 on September 3, 2014, 6:32 GMT

    @Sinhaya...fortunately SL is in other group (always gets place in opposite groups of India in biggest events, same happened in CT 2013, WC 2011, T20 WC 2014)...India brilliantly chased down 320 target in just 34 overs in foreign soil...the world class bowler went on to give 96 runs in 7.2 overs...

    in CT 2013, again the BEST team did not even cross 200 runs mark against INDIA....moreover the WC 2015 is not going to held on Colombo or BD tracks, but on foreign soils...where SL have pathetic records...with dependent on only THREE LEGENDS, match winning in foreign soil is impossible let alone winning WC..plz publish

  • on September 3, 2014, 5:54 GMT

    @Sinhaya: If India loose 4 bilateral series to SL on INDIAN SOIL, I would stop watching India playing any form of cricket, hope you understand my point.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on September 3, 2014, 4:47 GMT

    @Sinhaya . No worry in teams who got thrashed in CT (SA,Aus) and ODI series in India (Aus) in top position? Why just India? SL fans dreaming that their overrated team will win WC!. They need to back to reality. BD waiting for you...no more escapes...

  • Sinhaya on September 3, 2014, 3:04 GMT

    No way can a team which got thrashed in Asia Cup 2014 be number 1. Best is to ignore this whole ranking system and make it a point to show your colors to the world in the world cup next year. I hope justice will prevail in the end and I hope umpires as usual wont help the overrated team win the world cup, which happened in 2011. Also, must stop concrete pitches from being imported from India for CWC 2015 too.

  • indiaworldchamps2011 on September 3, 2014, 2:26 GMT

    alright i get it now.... when India is no.1 the system is flawed and when australia or SA is no.1 they deserve it, and what can i say about SL they never even reach the top rankings but they still deserve it more than Indai LOL!!! everyone was gaga about AUS being the correct no.1 conveniently forgetting that they lost 3-0 and 4-0 in eng and india making it 7-0 but thats ok , if india looses 8-0 that so shemaful!!

  • Chris_P on September 2, 2014, 20:31 GMT

    @Greatest_Game Ah yes, very witty. The rankings questions were asked how or why a top side remained at #1 when beaten by a lower side. My example was indeed, tennis, but highlighted the same reason. Both are determined by series of results over a period of time. The scaling is ok, but the relevance is not. Away wins are not weighted any differently, nor are beating higher placed teams or even WC wins, which should be! AFter the final group game Australia went back to #2 ahead of South Africa, but so what? The top 4 sides are there & ready for their seedings for the WC, that is the only real significance of the team ODI rankings, that & getting the dosh on April 1 as #1.

  • on September 2, 2014, 19:25 GMT

    india rise to No.1 introducing NEW 3days test format to world cricket

  • Sampan on September 2, 2014, 18:53 GMT

    I think some comments are too harsh re India and some comments are way too optimistic. The fact of the matter is Ind is a much better ODI side than our current test team. Yes they did very badly in the SFA and NZ tour in the ODI but in that case their test series was not a complete humilating disaster as it was against Eng. Rankings don't count much and they move up and down like stock market- Let's enjoy good performance and hope for the best in the WC.

  • on September 2, 2014, 15:53 GMT

    real ranking 1# south africa 2# australia 3# srilanka 4# india 5# pakistan

  • Sinhaya on September 2, 2014, 15:37 GMT

    @Fast_Track_Bully, Indians are a good team to boost the opposition numbers. India is a punching bag as shown by the thrashings they have got in cricket history. Fans show as if India win 100 out of 100 times when in reality they get thrashed 99% of the time. Zimbabwe has beaten India twice in tests. India took 19 mega long years to win a test match and that shows how great India have been in cricket. Australia will only need 2 days each to win all 4 tests this December.

  • SLslider on September 2, 2014, 15:17 GMT

    @ Sinhaya Clearly you are not knowledgeable. Last time I checked WC and CT are bigger than Asia cup. IND is WC and CT winner and we won Asia cup when IND didn't have Dhoni & Raina in their team.

  • First_Drop on September 2, 2014, 15:16 GMT

    @drssudsahi: well said! Some of the comments re: India have been ridiculous. One or two wins and suddenly India are apparently unbeatable!

  • sachin_vvsfan on September 2, 2014, 14:58 GMT

    Dont read too much into these rankings. Remember that WC 2015 will be held in AUS/NZ. So interesting to know how these teams would fare in Aus (including AUS)

  • drsudsahi on September 2, 2014, 14:04 GMT

    rajesh brother,what happened to our indian cricket team invincibles in south africa when they were crushed 2-0 by sa and in newzeeland later by 4-0.how come suddenly they become invincibles suddenly by beating england 2-0 till now,may be 4-0. people like you will make indian fans look like a laughing stock. i am a genuine indian cricket fan but will love to appreciate other teams when they win against us as it is sports and doing that is sporting spirit,which people like u will be lacking

  • FiGhtCluB_99 on September 2, 2014, 12:59 GMT

    @EnglishCricket - You clearly have no understanding of the rating system. Rating is the average points of the team per match. AVERAGE, not CUMULATIVE. After every game, a team will gain/lose a certain number of POINTS based on the result. These points are used to calculate the arithmetic average called 'RATING'. Rating = Total points / Total matches.

  • on September 2, 2014, 12:44 GMT

    @Regan Rolfe Agreed the system is not perfect, but it is not how you think it is either. System does not give you more points for playing more games. It is weighted system which does its best to give you the performance index irrespective of number of matches played. You do get more points for beating the team which is ranked higher than you. So New Zealand did benefit by beating teams higher than them. So the points system is not broken. This is as fair as you can get. And it takes the matches played over significant period of time. You have to be consistent to be at the top. All 4 teams at the top have been playing well.

  • on September 2, 2014, 10:32 GMT

    These ranking systems should always be considered skeptically I think. They are never a true representation and never will be unless each and every team plays the exact same number of games spread across all teams evenly. For example, in their most recent ODI confrontations NZ have had series wins against SA, IND, and ENG. however, these teams play more frequently and therefore have an unfair opportunity to accumulate more points.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on September 2, 2014, 10:31 GMT

    It is funny that people call the matches 'meaningless' when India won them, otherwise they are great! 'Sour grapes'

  • on September 2, 2014, 10:04 GMT

    in the case of Zimbabwe defeating Australia a top ranked team, how many points do they accumulate,and also how many points does a top ranked team drop from losing to a losing to a lower ranked team.

  • 9ST9 on September 2, 2014, 9:53 GMT

    When people bring out a meaningless forgotten Tri Series to prove their point you suddenly start feeling sorry for them.

  • 9ST9 on September 2, 2014, 9:40 GMT

    if SA win the current tri-series would that put them on the #1 position, where they belong? How would the outcome of these two ongoing series affect the rankings?

  • Fast_Track_Bully on September 2, 2014, 9:39 GMT

    @9ST9. Ranking doesn't meant for 2014 only!. Who won WC? Who won tri nations in WI? Who won Champions trophy? why hide them?

  • 9ST9 on September 2, 2014, 9:37 GMT

    On the back of the hideous performance of their test team Indian fans are finding some solace from this statistical/academic victory they have got. Why on worth would fans from SA Aus SL etc want to spoil it for them?

  • Fast_Track_Bully on September 2, 2014, 9:34 GMT

    @priceless1 . Look at the points now and when India went NZ. All competitors for NO:1 rankings like Australia, SA lost games in the same period and hence everyone in almost same points. Better understand the situation before comment like that!

  • fineprint on September 2, 2014, 9:13 GMT

    @ Reggie_Bossthe- "only true contender's for the best ODI team is actually Australia." I completely agree with you, true contender for best ODI team is Australia but the best ODI team is INDIA ;).

  • priceless1 on September 2, 2014, 8:54 GMT

    "India had been the No. 1 side when they visited New Zealand in January, but lost the top rank after failing to win a match there" - after that too they pretty much lost every tournament they played butjustafter wining 2 matches against Eng they become the No 1 Again , New ICC rocks :D

  • Sri_Lankan_Cricket_Fan on September 2, 2014, 8:14 GMT

    India won only 6 matches this year. 1 Against Afghanistan, 3 Against Bangladesh, 2 against England. They lost to New Zealand, Pakistan and Sri Lanka. And yet they are ranked top ODI team.

    My point is it would be more appropriate if ICC find a way to calculate ranks based more on recent year performance and less on past years performance less. That day top ranked teams are actually the best teams at a given time.

  • Greatest_Game on September 2, 2014, 8:14 GMT

    @ Yousufahmed1. It was NOT my argument - it was used to point out the fallacy of his argument. I don't claim that such a measurement should be used - not at all. In fact I suggest the complete opposite.

    Perhaps you should read my post more closely, and make some attempt to follow what I am saying. Picking & choosing random bits and pieces of a post and pretending they constitute my complete argument is pretty cheesy. If you want real debate, be real! I'm not anti India. I do however strongly oppose baseless fallacies masquerading as valid, constructive debate.

  • warneneverchuck on September 2, 2014, 8:12 GMT

    Team who has won 2 major icc tournaments like WC and champions trophy is righly at the top of table...well done india..

  • Rajesh_india_1990 on September 2, 2014, 8:10 GMT

    @SLsup you people said the same thing in champions trophy also..we won the champions trophy(ofcourse without breaking a sweat..not even lose a single match including practice matches)..and also crushed your team in semifinal.......you can laugh now as much as u can..me along with the whole world will laugh after we win the WC2015........

  • warneneverchuck on September 2, 2014, 8:10 GMT

    I guess fans shud accept that their team is not capable of reaching no. 1 spot rather than blaming the system...

  • Reggie_Boss on September 2, 2014, 8:09 GMT

    A team which has choked consistrently since 25 years of ODI cricket shouldnt be at the top regardless, but if you think thats unfair then this ranking sytstem is close enough. The ranking will change again, the only true contender's for the best ODI team is actually Australia. Stop cryin out loud when the system doesnt suit your agenda

  • on September 2, 2014, 8:08 GMT

    india is and always will be the worlds best cricketing nation!! love u india! Jai Hind!

  • Yousufahmed1 on September 2, 2014, 8:08 GMT

    @ Greatest_Game Yes IND is bad at Test cricket when they play overseas. And SA is the best when it comes to test cricket.

  • Sal0891 on September 2, 2014, 8:04 GMT

    @ Greatest_Game: You are right. Ranking system had a great bug in algorithm that completely neglects Ind-SA series ( this is your bigggest point on the whole universe of discussion here) which says ICC and its algorithm is completely wrong as per your standard.Those two wins for SA against Ind which doesn't affect them on no.1 position. Only after a series lost against Nz depicts that they lost the position and also which answers that Ind had a greater points than any other team before those series. Now they stabilized the losses by winning in continuous games. Rankings doesn't mean that SA is not a great team. Better look for this tri series, SA will comeback to No.1 when they grab this series.

  • Sri_Lankan_Cricket_Fan on September 2, 2014, 7:59 GMT

    @Va Si :- Do you think India is better than that in fast and bouncy pitches, Here is what we saw.

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2014/engine/match/667719.html

  • Greatest_Game on September 2, 2014, 7:54 GMT

    @ Yousufahmed1 claims "A teams real strength shows when they play a world tournament."

    So how do you gauge a test team's performance? Is that why India are so bad at test cricket?

  • Yousufahmed1 on September 2, 2014, 7:45 GMT

    @ Greatest_Game On that argument. Sa should always be below IND until they win more meaningful(ICC tournaments) than IND. A teams real strength shows when they play a world tournament.

  • on September 2, 2014, 7:44 GMT

    @Realistic_cric_fan please use the same logic and explain how India with a win loss ratio of 1.2 since 2011 is ranked above SL - who has a W/Lanka ratio of 1.87 Since 2011in T 20 rankings....

  • Sal0891 on September 2, 2014, 7:38 GMT

    @SLSup: As you say, you have a problem with ICC rankings that doesn't mean that ICC is doing a wrong thing here. Better stay away or take digest. Accepting or not is your choice which i don't blame. But not for your cause that the entire system is wrong. And back to your criticism, your mentioned logics are just over a happened over a couple of months?? For me it is very normal. Every team has done that in past and came back strong in the next couple of series. As per your logic, SL had a decent win against Pak (2-1) and a close win against Eng (3-2) and lost against SA( 1-3) as they were ranked 5th on Dec 2013, the point diff. b/w Ind (1st) and SL (5th) was 12 points. This year SL had some wins against some low profile teams. So,they got for what they did. Here is the fact that Ind degraded their points in a couple of series past and which they lost their position. Now they are on top with a very meager points which any one come in this week. It is all there how we see is differ

  • on September 2, 2014, 7:38 GMT

    SL proved that they are big game players, how many finals they have played so far ..no matter what the condition is they will be there at the WC15. it's easy to win one world cup after decade but it's not easy to be in the finals every WC..I'm more than happy to see India in next WC finals with Sri lanka.....

  • Greatest_Game on September 2, 2014, 7:29 GMT

    @ ITJOBSUCKS. That is not the same logic. The rankings cover recent games. Games from 2010 are not applicable to rankings calculations, and therefore using them to justify your point is not logical. Logic has a specific meaning. It would be useful if you used it so.

    I posted India vs SA ODI stats. Using your argument, as SA have beaten India in 60% of ODIs played, SA should ALWAYS be ranked higher than India until India has a winning record against SA, and not a losing record. Now, is that logical to you?

  • Rough_Fan on September 2, 2014, 7:23 GMT

    @crzcric: Yes SA is real No.1 team with no ICC trophy in their bucket..

  • Rough_Fan on September 2, 2014, 7:19 GMT

    @EnglishCricket: Who has stopped you from playing more ODIs? Play more and try to win at least one ICC event...

  • Greatest_Game on September 2, 2014, 7:16 GMT

    @ Rajesh_india_1990 writes "seems like southafrica can win india only in SA..in any other ground they will bite the dust against India."

    Really? Instead of "seems like," let's look at the ACTUAL STATS of SA vs India in ODIs.

    Played 70. SA won 42. India won 25. No Result 3. SA won 60%. India won 35.71%.

    In India. Played 23. SA won 10, India won 13. SA won 43.5%, India won 56.5%

    In SA. Played 28. SA won 21, India won 5. No result 2. SA won 75%. India won 17.85%

    Neutral venues. Played 19. SA won 11, India won 7, No result 1. SA won 57.89%. India won 36.84%

    At "any other ground," India "bite the dust" against SA in 57.89 % of games, & SA "bite the dust" in 36.84% of games. India rarely win in SA, & SA are almost even in India!

    You wrote "seems like southafrica can win india only in SA." Now you know that against SA it does not just "seem like," but it is actually true, that India are historically losers. That is, as the stats show, a plain fact.

    You lose. Period.

  • on September 2, 2014, 7:11 GMT

    i dont know why everyone is so surprised by seeing india back at top...i mean they thoroughly deserve it....except last two tours when was the last time you see india struggling anywhere in the world...nd talking abt 2015 WC india still got upper hand

  • Realistic_cri_fan on September 2, 2014, 7:08 GMT

    This is for those who are irking about India's No.1 rank.

    India 2011-2014 M:80 W: 46 L: 27 3 NR: 4 W/L %: 1.70

    No other team in the entire universe has more W/L% than India.The team that is close to India is SA with W/L% of 1.5.

    Now this is for Srilankan fans. They ranked 7th with a W/L% of 1.15, behind INDIA,SA,Aus,IRELAND,NETHERLAND,Pak...Lol...Even the minnows have more W/L% than SL.They have no rights to speak.I feel pity for the SL fans.What a shame!!

  • First_Drop on September 2, 2014, 7:08 GMT

    If I were an India Cricket fan, with my teams incredibly poor history of performances overseas, I would remain very, very quiet.

    Shouting about your teams very temporary no.1 ranking will come back and bite you very quickly indeed.

  • on September 2, 2014, 7:07 GMT

    How SL fans expect their team to be even in the top 3? SL failed to beat Australia and SA at home. India has thrashed SL in the last 5 bilateral series, 4 of them played on SL soil. PLUS SL is known for playing against the spirit of the game, the recent few incidents include Jos Buttler wicket in the last ODI of Eng-SL bilateral series, Niroshan Dickwella claimed an unfair catch in the 2nd test against SA and SL playing negative cricket in the 3rd test against Pakistan in UAE.

  • SLSup on September 2, 2014, 7:03 GMT

    AND all this histeria over ranking changes when only 3 points separate the top 4 teams. This WC '15 is eventually going to be about these SAME 4 TEAMS: AUS, IND, SA, SL.

    @ Rajesh, don't be so confident about IND chances in AUS when you've got such formidable opponents to contend with. NO ONE is going to win WC '15 "...without breaking a sweat" as you said. But, then, I thought you were just being funny!

  • dyhard_cric_fan on September 2, 2014, 6:53 GMT

    why dont ICC show us the calculating method for rankings, so that everyone can know it? and also the duck woth lewis method?

  • on September 2, 2014, 6:51 GMT

    I agree with many people here that SA should be the CURRENT top Team, HOWEVER, people need to know this ranking is not based on a few matches. This ranking system is bad only to some people because India is on the top. People are criticizing India because they won against England, but they won't criticize Australia because they lost to a really low ranked team. And as far as the SA and NZ tour goes, people need to know the at that time Team India was very inexperienced, and many of the players didn't even play double digits total ODIs. During those tour, team India was completely in a rebuilding mode and still is (now it's getting better though), and playing outside of India, but who wants to talk about about that right? It's hard to please everyone, so all of you against team India being 1st, you can hate. And I will sleep thinking India got some haters which means obviously it's doing something right.

  • on September 2, 2014, 6:47 GMT

    @Sri_Lankan_Cricket_Fan "Dont dream much Boss..!! i like Sanga & Mahela Much for there capability but not he whole team.!" no Way SL can't cross second round on 2015 WC. because it is not in Sri Lankan ground, don't think you are no-1 beating Bangladesh & Pakistan at sri lanka., here you see your position in Fast and bounce Pich " http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-sri-lanka-2014/engine/match/667893.html "

  • on September 2, 2014, 6:45 GMT

    Orignal Sincere Rating 01 South Africa 02 Ausralia 03 Sri Lanka 04 England 05 India 06 Pakistan 07 New Zealand 08 West Indies 09 Bangladesh 10 Zimbabwe in asian dead low pitches india is far more better side than pakistan and sri lanka but in abroad

  • Rajesh_india_1990 on September 2, 2014, 6:42 GMT

    BEST IN THE WORLD... Indian ODI team is invicible as always.......We will win the world cup without breaking a sweat..........Bye bye other teams..thanks for participating in WC2015..hahaha

  • ITJOBSUCKS on September 2, 2014, 6:42 GMT

    @Greatest_Game Going by the same logic, Ind utterly crushed SA in Eng in Champions Trophy & also in the last bi-lateral series which was played in Ind in 2009 or 2010(remember SRT's 200!).....So, BIG tournaments like WC & Champions Trophy are the one's where you can judge the caliber of a team & that's where SA have been found wanting!! Having won both the tournaments, Ind deserved to be No.1!!!

  • Kruns on September 2, 2014, 6:41 GMT

    @ 9ST9 :- The ratings are not derived on only 15 games or 20 games which is been suggested i guess ....... Please check the other records as well .... India won the WC ..... Indian won Champions Trophy ........ India won bilateral against Aussies ...... India won this two against Eng ...... India won against Bang....... be rest assured many more to come.........

  • 9ST9 on September 2, 2014, 6:37 GMT

    " ICC rankings is calculated based on the performance of last 3 years not 1 year" hmm.. how ironic it is that ONE loss by Australia this year changed the rankings so dramatically especially given that the rankings consider performances of last 3 years...

  • Greatest_Game on September 2, 2014, 6:36 GMT

    @ ruskey. I never said that India should not be ranked number anything! I pointed out the flaws in the ranking system. There is no reason India should not be ranked no. 1 - if of course they earned it!

    NOTE: I did NOT say that India have not earned it. My point is that the rankings are so flawed it is often difficult to decide whether a ranking is truly earned, or an artifact of a flawed system.

    The biggest issue is the formula, or weighting, the ICC uses for the points allocations after matches. I have never found a valid explanation of that mystery formula. It seems as if they can make up what ever they want to, as there is never a clear & verifiable explanation of the "formula."

  • SLSup on September 2, 2014, 6:33 GMT

    Response to @ Sal0891: Considering I have been critical of ICC Rankings since the inception - even when SL was almost #1 alongside AUS in early '00s - it is clear your "considered" opinion is UNFOUNDED? : )

    As for dark fantasies... you must be an AUS fallen flat on its face after losing to ZIM. No shame in that! Or IND who scheduled 5 Tests to play over 5 days each but couldn't compete well enough to lose, was it 3-1? SOME didn't even last 4 days. I honestly can't remember saying anything to offend any other type. Perhaps you are an SA fan who can't stomach criticism of ICC Ranking cos SA happen to occupy #1 in Tests. Who knows! Not that any of this matters.

    SOUR GRAPES for sure.

  • Y2G_87 on September 2, 2014, 6:29 GMT

    Looks like Ind vs SL match started right here, even before WC 2015.

  • ghostOf_DonBradman on September 2, 2014, 6:25 GMT

    In last 3/4 years despite of having Mahela and Sangakkara ( current, best players on flat tracks) Sri Lanka have been beaten by India many a times. How can Sri Lankan cricket fans forget a number of match wining innings played by MS Dhoni against Sri Lanka..... even South Africa have beaten Sri Lanka on their home soil (again having Mahela and Sangakkara + Angelo M)...

  • on September 2, 2014, 6:24 GMT

    i can,t undestand how india is no-1 . southafrica must be no-1 srilanka no-2 austrail no-3 paks n0-4 india no-5

  • Greatest_Game on September 2, 2014, 6:20 GMT

    @ ITJOBSUCKS asks "On what basis SA, AUS & SL should be ahead of Ind ??"

    I can't speak for the others, but I would say that in South Africa's case it would be because in the last 3 ODIs SA played against India they completely and utterly demolished and destroyed India. That seems a sensible basis, does it not?

  • warneneverchuck on September 2, 2014, 6:19 GMT

    No doubt india is far ahead of rest in odis...

  • STRIKETHUNDER on September 2, 2014, 6:19 GMT

    Rankings do not matter in cricket. Playimg conditions matter. Win the cup and all will be quiet.

  • warneneverchuck on September 2, 2014, 6:17 GMT

    India is the only team from subcontinent who have achieved number one ranking in both test and odi...I dont think average teams like SL can ever become number 1 in odi or test..

  • 9ST9 on September 2, 2014, 6:13 GMT

    @Kruns - Spot on. India are easily the best team in asia. Just look at this years statistics. India 14 matches with 6 wins and 6 losses with a W/L rate of 1. How can it be even compared with SL who have a pathetic W/L rate of 3 having won only 15 of their 20 games.

  • on September 2, 2014, 6:10 GMT

    India's No.1 spot is hurting some people's eyes. Well haters gonna hate, you can't do much with them. I wanna congratulate my team and the awesome ODI performance, though ranking don't have a lot of bearing in my understanding. I want to wish the Indian Team all the best for the next two ODI's. Jai Hind

  • 9ST9 on September 2, 2014, 6:04 GMT

    @ITJOBSUCKS - " Playing more matches against Bang & beating them doesn't take SL up the ladder in the ranking" Dead right ... SL and Ind both played series against BD this year and as you mentioned it did not take SL up the ladder.

  • 9ST9 on September 2, 2014, 6:03 GMT

    @Fast_Track_Bully - yes. Correct. The last asia cup also proved that SL are the 4th team in Asia behind India. Pakistan and BD. I don't understand why people don't realize that and accept the fact India are #1. They have beaten the mighty Afghans, Bangladeshis and the best ODI team in the history of the game England recently.

  • Rajesh_india_1990 on September 2, 2014, 6:00 GMT

    Original Rankings Odi's 1.India 2.Southafrica 3.Newzland 4.England 5.Westindies 6.Australia 7.Srilanka 8.Zimbabwe 9.Pakistan 10.Ireland..every honest irrespective of any country agrees with these rankings..........

  • ITJOBSUCKS on September 2, 2014, 5:55 GMT

    @Sri_Lankan_Cricket_Fan On what basis SA, AUS & SL should be ahead of Ind ?? BTW, Ban(No.10) & NZ(No.8 when that series took place) drew ODI series in SL & recently SA won the series & Ind has won almost all the bi-lateral series in SL.....SA haven't won any ODI series/multi tournament in India till now & lost home series to Pak & Aus lost the ODI to series in India last year!!! I can't see clear No.1 other than Ind as Ind has won both WC & Champions Trophy!!!

  • Kruns on September 2, 2014, 5:47 GMT

    @ Sri_Lankan_Cricket_Fan :- You are kidding me by saying that WI has better chance in world cup than India.... And also saying india is third best team in asia after India and Pakistan......

    India ofcourse is the best team in asia and stands amongst the best in the world just below SA i would say and better than the aussies......

    Lets wwait and watch the WC 2015 who has better chances who does not qualify for Semis....

    However being a big fan of Mahela and Sanga would want them to do well in this WC cause once they retire i think SL would be below WI and NZ in rankings.....

  • Sri_Lankan_Cricket_Fan on September 2, 2014, 5:38 GMT

    @ITJOBSUCKS : That is what I was talking about. These numbers doesn't means India is the number 1 team at the moment. That is why I am saying these ranking system is not accurate. It is obvious that South Africa, Australia and Sri Lanka are clearly ahead India. But still India ranked as number 1. You may be too proud about beating this weakest England ODI team.

  • on September 2, 2014, 5:37 GMT

    To the people questioning India's top position : We are the current World champions and Champions trophy winners. These multi team competitions carry a lot of weight compared to bilateral series, in these rankings.

  • Rajesh_india_1990 on September 2, 2014, 5:15 GMT

    @greatest_game we thrashed your team in more important tournaments like Champions trophy,WCtT20 which is not in India or in southafrica..seems like southafrica can win india only in SA..in any other ground they will bite the dust against India..

  • ITJOBSUCKS on September 2, 2014, 5:12 GMT

    @ Sri_Lankan_Cricket_Fan I know "ignorant is bliss" can be good sometimes but not all the times!!! BTW, ICC rankings is calculated based on the performance of last 3 years not 1 year!!! Playing more matches against Bang & beating them doesn't take SL up the ladder in the ranking...What matters is who does what during the ICC titles like WC & Champions Trophy...that's where SL has been found wanting!!!

  • RoshJ on September 2, 2014, 5:03 GMT

    Common! India NO.1..how?? Even after NZ white washed them?? What is NZ ranking 6? So going by the logic AUS sliding to no.4 courtesy ZIM loss who is..what no.8, should not IND had lost quite a few points when NZ thrashed them?This is a flawed ranking system, period.

    One cannot rule out the fact that buy default the BIG 3 are at No. 1, 2 and 3..funny but could be no?

  • ghostOf_DonBradman on September 2, 2014, 5:03 GMT

    Well in the middle of all this controversy don't forget that Zimbabwe has won and Australia has lost..... I don't think even an ideal rating system could explain this... I am a bit sad though...

  • Fast_Track_Bully on September 2, 2014, 5:02 GMT

    Funny to see some SLfans boasting their team based on home performance. Even that wasn't convincing! They forgot what BD and NZ did to them at home! Even in asia they are behind India, Pakistan and BD. No chance for them to the WC. Not even semis this time.

  • Rajesh_india_1990 on September 2, 2014, 4:12 GMT

    Well India and australia back to the places where they belong....

  • SLSup on September 2, 2014, 4:03 GMT

    Response to @ yoogi: If I were to accept your argument then I am left with nothing but the following conclusion: there can never be a ranking method.

    On that note let's not forget the times when ICC did NOT have a ranking method. Cricket was played where EVERY GAME keenly watched - no matter what the outcome of a Series was. Today there is way too much focus on a ranking system no one can get behind and we do so BLISSFULLY IGNORANT of the fact that on any given day two teams take on each other ranked differently to what the ICC method SAYS they are. Yet, after the game, POINTS ARE ALLOCATED based on that FLAWED OLD PREMISE as opposed to how the two teams measure against each other IN THAT GAME.

    Again, there HAS to be a durational process but ICC must shortened it and points allocation of a game must be based on a method dervied to determine how the two teams measure against each other IN THE MOMENT + outcome of game based on historical pitch data (among other things).

  • Sri_Lankan_Cricket_Fan on September 2, 2014, 4:03 GMT

    It's time ICC to do the ranking in a better and accurate way. If you take the consistency and this year ODI performance the number 1 team should be South Africa, no 2 Sri Lanka and no 3 Australia.

    Team India is highly overrated. It is the 3rd best team in Asia after Sri Lanka and Pakistan and they will prove that in World Cup 2015. They already proved it in the Asia cup too. No matter they have BIG plans for world cup. India won't even make it to the semi finals this time.

    This time most favorite team to win the world cup is South Africa followed by Australia. Sri Lanka and New Zealand also may have a little chance. But definitely not India. West Indies have a better chance than India. However this South African team is clearly ahead of all other teams. This may be the best South African team they have ever sent to a world cup.

  • on September 2, 2014, 3:50 GMT

    Please don't be jealous... Take in the right sportsman spirit.... A win is always a win... Do not be over excited when your team wins .... Afterall Cricket has to win.. Currently India is No. 1 even if you do not like to believe... we are all Asian's anyway!!! Support the Asian team who is No.1 in one dayers...

  • Sal0891 on September 2, 2014, 3:45 GMT

    @SLsup: Yup!! there is always wrong with the ranking system unless SL on No.1. Winning in home on spinning conditions with no.6 and no. 7 teams and touring to Ban, Ireland, Zim play with full power and think we are unbeatable and no 1. in Asia. How cool it is?!!. Also beating Eng for the first time in their soil is the ultimate time to roam around websites to load some dark fantasies and argue with the best teams in the world and scrutinize the weaker part of opponents and gets self satisfied. Well done mate!! Congrats.

  • yoogi on September 2, 2014, 3:38 GMT

    @SLSUp, the problem is not with the method, but how frequently all teams play each other, UNIFORMLY. Say, if every team plays every other team once, and only once in a six week period, then ranking will be very true at the end of six months, not necessarily in-between. When all teams play each other, and as uniformly as possible ranking will be much realistic. You cannot device a ranking method where schedules are skewed.

  • Humdingers on September 2, 2014, 3:10 GMT

    @Maduka43 on the subject of dreaming - how's all the ICC Silverware in SL cupboards? Yes mate, keep dreaming indeed.

  • ITJOBSUCKS on September 2, 2014, 3:08 GMT

    @Greatest_Game You've habit of ignoring the stats...Rankings are not calculated according to results of 1 or 2 series..... India got lot points when they won Champions Trophy without losing a game which no other team has done till now & Ind did crush SA during that series!!! BTW, Ind "B" team toured Zim with most of their senior players resting last year but still Zim never came close to beat Ind whereas SA were clearly lucky not to lose the last match against Zim!!

  • SLSup on September 2, 2014, 2:50 GMT

    @dunger.bob: While it is true a top "ranked" team loses more points when losing to a team ranked MUCH LOWER it is also true that when two lower ranking teams play they are treated (as per how ICC allocates points) as equals. But what this fails to consider is the CURRENT standing of a two teams. For example, ON PAPER it was ridiculously clear SL was a better outfit than ENG when SL played ENG few months back. Yet ENG suffered a blow to their ranking because they were RATED higher per ICC ranking system (at the time SL was in ENG). There is clearly a discrepancy between what is CONSIDERED a top ranked side vs. a team that can be TRULY ranked higher IN THE MOMENT. ICC method is flawed in that it doesn't take the CURRENT standing of teams into consideration.

    @ Dhawanir Shah: While it is true all teams are accorded the same method, the question that must be raised is ABOUT THAT METHOD.

  • Maduka43 on September 2, 2014, 1:39 GMT

    @gsingh7'. Currently No 1 team in Asia is Sri Lanka. Have you forgotten ? Keep dreaming .

  • JavagalSrinath on September 2, 2014, 1:29 GMT

    @Deepal, Srilanka is highly overrated team. I am surprised how Srilanka and India has managed to win so many matches and keep winning. Srilanka side are not one of top 5 batting, bowling or fielding team but yet their winning rate is within top 3 teams. Only few things I can think of is opponents are taking Srilanka lightly and Srilanka does something unexpected every time and bit of luck. I do not expect India or Srilanka to reach semi finals.

  • on September 2, 2014, 0:51 GMT

    rating rules are same for all teams and not partial for any team, period.

  • dunger.bob on September 2, 2014, 0:38 GMT

    Interesting times. It seems to me that what you have to do is keep winning. Any losses, particularly to lower ranked teams, are having a big negative impact on your standings. It's the same in the Test rankings as well. .. The prize is up for grabs gentlemen. Let's see who gets their hands on it for the longest over the next year or so.

  • on September 2, 2014, 0:37 GMT

    @Greatest_Game, you are spot on right sir! India should have lost 3-0 in SA.

    India wins only due to umpiring help and luck. Sri Lanka who have won 15 ODIs this year being behind India is a real joke.

  • on September 2, 2014, 0:33 GMT

    This is a joke. How can a team which failed to make it to the Asia Cup finals be number 1? Anyway, we all know what is the ICC all about. Best is to ignore this as who really cares? Well Sri Lanka and Pakistan are definite favorites for CWC 2015 than this overrated Indian team. Cricinfo please publish.

  • on September 2, 2014, 0:04 GMT

    Well india are not world champions for nothing...jai hind!!

  • on September 1, 2014, 23:40 GMT

    Congratulations to the Indian team once again showed the world why they are the best at what they do, this might give them some confidence after the test series debacle, keep the current momentum and with that this very deserving #1 position.

  • SLSup on September 1, 2014, 23:37 GMT

    @ Greatest_Game: two excellent posts - one on oddities of ICC rankings and the other on IND losing marginally. Hahaha. Maybe the guy who posted saying IND lost marginally MEANT "by a margin". I'd hate to be in his shoes.

    @ Deepal Karunaratne: ICC ranking is flawed becasue it is based on the false premise that a ranking system PRIMARILY based on a DURATIONAL process is reasonable. One HAS to take a duration into consideration but 36 months is a bit much. Also, Series points must not be awarded making each game count. IND started hitting the ranking jackpot when they stopped playing PAK (politics) and opted to play a less competitive SL more as a result. You can climb the rankings easy by beating lower ranking sides frequently. It's worse when a Series awards such minnow-bashers additional points. A REASONABLE ranking system must also consider history of each venue as it relates to outcome of each game.

    ICC raking is not serious play; its a pass-time interest like playing Bejewled.

  • AitheySavandi_MeeKharma on September 1, 2014, 23:34 GMT

    Its a pride to be on TOP :) funny to see eveyone else(especially neighbouring countries who dream that their teams are equal to india and their players are also in the same league as of indian legends ) crying like kids who always finds faults in system be it employer system or political system or rating system ....they feel they are always right and system work wierdly.....time to forget these kids and enjoy the moment....We are RANK#1 yohoooo.......

  • Greatest_Game on September 1, 2014, 22:42 GMT

    @ Chris_P commented @"KiwiCricketFan The system rewards sides over a period of time, not just one series or match otherwise why didn't Nick Kyrgios go to #1 when he was #155 when he beat Nadal?"

    Perhaps Nick Kyrgios did not go to #1 because he was playing tennis, not cricket? After all, we are talking about the ICC rankings, not the ATP!

    On the other hand, if Nadal thought he was playing cricket, no wonder Nick Kyrgios beat him.

  • Antony_Lucas on September 1, 2014, 22:20 GMT

    These rankings are just an algorithm, a flawed agorithm, and are over exposed. The parameters utilized appeared minimal. People harp on about duckworth lewis, but this rankings algorithm here is in much greater need of an upheaval. Employ an indpendent board, and collectively produce something worthwhile that is representative of what is actually going on in ODI cricket

  • abc3 on September 1, 2014, 22:05 GMT

    India moved ahead to No1. even before the Aus Zim match. Both were tied on 114 with India ahead fractionally. Most of you guys have no clue on what you are talking about. Zealous/sour grapes. Indian were ahead on 132 points. Loss to SA and NZ dragged them back to rest of the pack which is fair enough since they lost there. Rankings reflect consistency over a period of time and not just one or two series freak wins that some teams have. Also people saying that India played more matches hence have more points is also reflecting their lack of knowledge. The more you play the more disadvantage it is as you have to be that much more consistent to retain the points. Retaining the points by playing consistently in less matches is easier over a larger sample of matches.

  • ruskey on September 1, 2014, 22:01 GMT

    I suggest users to use statsguru to find out the top ODI team from 2011 to present (August 2014)...Guess what India is number one with the highest W/L ratio..Australia is second and SA is third..India played 99 ODIs ,won 58 and lost 33 with a Win loss ratio of 1.75 which is highest...

  • ruskey on September 1, 2014, 21:52 GMT

    @greatest-game says : How flawed are these rankings......Yet he uses the same ranking system as a yardstick when he says south africa were ranked number one for many years...Only when India occupies top rank it seems flawed.....this to me is the peak of hypocrisy...You should become a politician... Prior to the SA and NZ tour, India acheived much as a ODI team.. It included the impressive Champions trophy win, tri series win in WI, beating Autralia,NZ and WI at home etc..So they maintained the coveted number one ranking for a time..they lost it during the NZ series and there was an article on cricinfo which explained how they would loose the ranking if they lost the third ODI in NZ. thats what happened...SInce then India have been ranked 2 or 3....

  • NIPPY_89 on September 1, 2014, 21:44 GMT

    This is ridiculous. Since November 2013 India have only beaten west indies and Bangladesh. They lost in South Africa, they lost in nz and they lost in Asia cup. The year to date their win loss ratio is 50:50 won 11 lost 11. How are they No.1?

  • on September 1, 2014, 21:13 GMT

    so any system that ranks india high is bad? if australia loses to zimbabwe we still should have a system that ignores it? odi's have become very competitive so rank 1 is going to fluctuate. and rank 1 doesn't mean that team is the best in the year... you have to see that over a period of time

  • Brahams on September 1, 2014, 21:09 GMT

    Peoples, Peoples.. read how the rankings work. Then it will become apparent how India become Numero Uno!

    If you read the article, it is also apparent that several countries have a decent shot at the top of the table. It just shows how the countries performed over a period of time.

    Also the ranking is NOT based on one or two series. Just as India lost in SA and NZ badly, it is also trashing England (quite emphatically). So how hard is this for anyone to understand!

  • on September 1, 2014, 20:48 GMT

    @Deelpal Why India is not eligible for No. 1 ranking. Don't blame without proper substantiation.

  • niazbhi on September 1, 2014, 20:45 GMT

    WI, AUS, SA, India, SL can beat each other in ODIs (even PAK, NZ as well). SA and AUS are a little ahead. ENG does not have right batting prep/team/estimates to win as many ODIs. they may win a few low scoring ones. WI is exactly the opposite of England. They have big hitters. They have special ODI bowlers who can limit runs..When they are at their best no one can beat them. As far as England goes.. on a normal wicket their batsmen would target to score 250-270 runs and they can only rely on Anderson for a wicket or two in the opening spell.. no one can stop run flows, unless a broad special is there, opponentcan easily pace their inning to reach the target.

  • on September 1, 2014, 20:36 GMT

    India in #1 is right but Srilanka team (slightly better odi team than Bangladesh)at number 3 is a joke!!

  • on September 1, 2014, 20:19 GMT

    South Africa deserved to be no.1. Not India. All this is just for marketing boost in India. Pathetic. SA will make sure and claim their rightful spot on top.

  • on September 1, 2014, 19:42 GMT

    This rating system again proves that India is highly over-rated team. They don't deserve this number 1 position. BCCI should thank to Zimbabwe. This is a highly flawed system of rating.

  • Chris_P on September 1, 2014, 19:32 GMT

    @KiwiCricketFan The system rewards sides over a period of time, not just one series or match otherwise why didn't Nick Kyrgios go to #1 when he was #155 when he beat Nadal? The system may have its issues, the rankings scale isn't one of them, what it doesn't do it allow extra for away winds or tough wins on harder pitches against high ranked oppositions. All it does now is to provide seedings for World Cups, nothing more.

  • Greatest_Game on September 1, 2014, 19:18 GMT

    @ Sal0891 is indignant, writing "Why the hell everyone is complaining about Ind here ... they lost a couple of series in SA and Nz and in Asia cup… very marginally..."

    In the 1st ODI against SA, India lost by 141 runs, all out in for 217 in 40 overs, in reply to SA's 358 for 4. All India's batsmen dismissed for 60% of the score that SA made losing only 4 wickets. FORTY PERCENT is not marginal - not in anyone's books, no matter how wide the margins!!!

    In the 2nd ODI against SA, India lost by 134 runs. India lasted just 35 overs, making 146 in reply to SA's 280/6. All India's batsmen made only 52% of the score SA made losing only 6 wickets. HALF is not "marginal" - anywhere, anytime!

    In the 3rd ODI, only rain saved India from further humiliation.

    Boy Beats a Billion!

    India were thrashed by little 20-year-old Quinton de Kock who scored a record THREE back-to-back ODI centuries! Is THAT marginal?

    Stop reinventing history. India were destroyed by SA. ZIMBABWE WOULD HAVE DONE BETTER!

  • KiwiCricketFan on September 1, 2014, 18:48 GMT

    Explain to me how India can have top spot after losing to NZ(RANKED 7th) 4-0. Obviously a flawed system.

  • Nampally on September 1, 2014, 18:46 GMT

    ODI ranking are constantly fluctuating depending upon which team is more keen to win. Because of keen competition, no single team remains on top for long. That is good for the game because each team knows that the Glory is just a fleeting one unless they can remain consistently high performers. Gone are the days when WI or Aussies ruled at the top for long spells. Cricket is now getting more dominant in spells in different Nations. So let India enjoy the Top position & hang on to it as long they can before being pushed down. I would still say congrats to India or who ever reaches #1 & however temporary it may be. It is still Top of the World - #1!It is also a very lonely number.

  • on September 1, 2014, 18:15 GMT

    all are not when india wins eider ODI or T20 or Test matches

  • gsingh7 on September 1, 2014, 18:11 GMT

    well done team india . only country in asia to achieve such a feat. india are defending champions of world cup and they deservedly reclaim their top spot. hoping for them to win remaining 2 odis and win series 4-0 and ensure they remain number 1 till world cup .

  • Greatest_Game on September 1, 2014, 17:55 GMT

    How flawed are these rankings? SA beat beat Zimbabwe convincingly enough to gain a tournament bonus point, but DROPPED by a point in the ICC ODI rankings. SA were on 114, level with Australia. But, after BEATING Zimbabwe, SA dropped to 113 points, conveniently just below India!

    This is the same India that was absolutely crushed by SA 8 months ago. And the same SA that recently won their ODI series in Sri Lanka, & beat Aus!

    Another example of rankings oddities. Test rankings are "updated" very year. For years the "update" took place on August 1. BUT this year the "update" was abruptly moved to April 1. Before the "update" SA was number 1: after the "update" Aus became no. 1.

    HOWEVER, BEFORE August 1 SA won a test series in SL, regaining the top spot. If the "update" had NOT been moved to April 1, SA would have stayed no. 1. Moving the "update" to April 1 ensured that WITHOUT playing any cricket, Aus was no. 1 for a few months. As soon actual cricket was played, SA was no. 1 again!!!

  • Sal0891 on September 1, 2014, 17:28 GMT

    Why the hell everyone is complaining about Ind here. Of course they lost a couple of series in SA and Nz and in Asia cup. But before those series they were no.1 and they are way ahead than any other teams in the table. Even in those series they lost the games very marginally which is affected by very minimal points. And now they had a four wins in a row (2 vs ban & 2 vs Eng) with a very good margins. So they got the bonus points to grab it on top. What else there to debate here.

  • vinay224 on September 1, 2014, 16:40 GMT

    Australia is not fourth but third.

  • samincolumbia on September 1, 2014, 16:39 GMT

    Congrats to the World Champs India on reaching the deserved #1 position. India would be#1 in tests too, it just that like the english in ODI's, they don't take it seriously.

  • on September 1, 2014, 15:42 GMT

    Ranking is not decide base on the games played...more the games wil not ensure higher ranking..but more consistency will do....If u see the test ranking ...Eng played more matches than any other team...but their ranking is just 3rd and are far behind in points to the 2nd ranked team-Aus....and in T20 also Indian are No.1....but India played less T20 matches than any other test playing countries

  • on September 1, 2014, 15:31 GMT

    Why everyone starts crying when India gets to no. 1 ?when was the last time RSA won a test or one day series in India?and what is the record of nz in India in the last 10 years?after 2004 Aussies came here thrice and couldn't win a single test..how they got to no. 1 then?answer me.it is case of grapes are sour..

  • on September 1, 2014, 15:18 GMT

    This topsy-turvy, up and down,ever fluctuating, ranking is gradually losing its meaning. I have started looking at each series, one series at a time, taking all the factors relevant to that series, and started making my own judgement. About the teams. And, about the players.

  • IPL_is_Thrash on September 1, 2014, 15:16 GMT

    I am more interested to read about Test Series blunder than this thing.

  • abstractCricFan on September 1, 2014, 14:59 GMT

    India's won 2 out of the 9 ODI's played away from home before this series , those 2 coming against a Bangladesh Side , Ind might not be the worst ODI side , a 3 or 4 maybe but to rank them 1 after 2 victories doesn't do them any favor as such ...but then again , that's how the ODI rankings have always worked

  • on September 1, 2014, 14:43 GMT

    India not deserving No. 1 spot at this time. Because india lost to SA in SA and lost in NZ. then how they become no.1. Only SA deserving this No. 1 spot. They are consistent. I don't know someone manipulating this calculating system. This could be overconfidence indian players.

  • aahahaa on September 1, 2014, 14:25 GMT

    in my earlier post pls read RB as RM... apologies.

  • on September 1, 2014, 14:25 GMT

    Just see Virat will be back by the next game.....

  • warneneverchuck on September 1, 2014, 14:15 GMT

    For most of the fans ranking is fine wen their team reach number 1 but suddenly everything is wrong with ranking as soon as their teams' ranking comes down

  • Nampally on September 1, 2014, 14:04 GMT

    Thanks to Shastri's active direct involvement in the Indian Team after the miserable showing in Tests that India has risen once more to #1 spot! This Indian Team needs a disciplinarian like Shastri who is involved in one-to-one with the players. His inquisition of Dhawan after his cheap dismissal in the Nottingham ODI was caught on TV. It showed a long chat he was having with Dhawan. Players are accountable for their own acts & for letting down the side when they play irresponsible shots. The best time to grill & question them is just after they get out. These guys are heavily paid as much as $ 0.75 Million (US)/PA for Grade 1 Indian contract. Compare this with what the Great Vinoo Mankad was offered in 1952- mere pittance. Yet he was pulled out of the Lancashire Professional league to rescue India in the Lords Test. Mankad's response was Glorious- 72 & 184 Vs.Fiery Truman in the 2 innings as opening bat + 5 for 192 after marathon bowling of over 80 overs. That is skill, Guts & Glory!

  • aahahaa on September 1, 2014, 14:00 GMT

    Aus lost to Zim, is a fact.(and I still remember the Zimbos beating them in '83 and have to say I loved it. and if not for Kapil they would probably have beat India. Ind beat what was in front of them and got to #1, is also a fact. Zim was bloody exciting until RB went berserk. what a sad story. SA are there and thereabouts from '92 but nothing to show for and until they do win something, can't really claim to be champions. Eng ? less said the better.

  • ishaan1997 on September 1, 2014, 13:56 GMT

    The reason the rankings are in a spin is that before india went to sa and nz, they were comformatably placed at the top, like how sa were in test tankings due to aus series win and champions trophy. But after that the didn't win any match in sa and nz due to which they come down a lot and joined others, but were still on top and aus also won 4-1 which made aus no1 and ind no 1. From there, it has been like this, one loss or win makes drastic changes in the rankings. So i guess, that is the reason this is happening. And why such a big change in aus ratings after zim loss? It is because as per the point system, if the difference of ratings between two teams is more than 40, then the team with the higher points loses 90 points and hence a decline in rating and moreover the sample size not that big too, so there is a fluctuation now and then.

  • yogicoolboy on September 1, 2014, 13:21 GMT

    Well done team India.Hope it continious

  • rks09 on September 1, 2014, 13:16 GMT

    electric_loco_WAP4 why do you see only losses India won champions trophy ,world cup ,reached final in t20 world cup India is ODI best team & they are going to retain the top spot electric_loco_WAP4 SEE POSTIVES NOT NEGATIVES

  • himsez on September 1, 2014, 13:07 GMT

    Consider India vs England and Zimbabwe vs Australia and South Africa. Just see how the teams play. Does this ranking make any sense at all then? India could not beat NZ in NZ. This raking system is a useless as the DL method assumes equality of the batsmen irrespective of their averages.

  • PravHP on September 1, 2014, 13:05 GMT

    The most consistant teams at the moment are 1.South Africa 2.Sri Lanka 3.Australia 4.India At the moment these four are the favourite for the WC 2015 New Zealand is the dark hourse. South Africa and Sri Lanka are the most consistant,most balanced and hot favourites at the moment

  • snaidu2010 on September 1, 2014, 12:58 GMT

    I don't understand this obsession about pulling India down whenever they reach No1 be it the Tests or ODI or T20. The rankings give equal points to all the winning teams. So the team that are consistent is last 12-18 months will always reach the No 1 position hence Aus is No 1 in tests and India/Aus/SA have been No 1 in ODIs recently. SL have been consistent in th last 6 months, hence they are at No 2. NZ haven't been consistent for long periods. They just beat India at home and England SL away only recently but have been way inconsistent for long periods. And how does India doing great in India rank lower than any other team doing well in their home conditions according to the fans in various comments section in Cricinfo, I will never understand. So all this moaning about the point system is completely useless just because India is No 1.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on September 1, 2014, 12:47 GMT

    @Gaurav -Indian here. Aussies were also missing these ODI regulars in their close L to Zim. Warner,Watto,Mitch,Harris,Patto,Doherty,Smith,Cummins to name a few.And a 40 p.c fit Clarke which meant they were fielding 10 and half men for most part.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on September 1, 2014, 12:37 GMT

    The rankings does it again!Is'nt it same Ind who could'nt W single ODI game in NZ,SA and w/w in both series?Well,hope Eng beat Ind in next 2 games to bring them to their real ranking @ 3 behind Aussies and SA.

  • PPL11 on September 1, 2014, 12:34 GMT

    @512fm so what? yes they lost and loose their no 1 spot but now they claimed it back !!

  • LJ253 on September 1, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    this just shows how pointless the current ranking system is. There needs to be something done to change it

  • xtrafalgarx on September 1, 2014, 12:13 GMT

    @philander50: Yeah, SA didn't deserve to lost the no.1 ranking. But this is fair enough. Our rise to world no.1 was a big iffy, it's no big deal. It's too close at the top of the table in ODI's and rankings will change a lot before and during the WC.

  • suneej on September 1, 2014, 11:54 GMT

    As an indian i am happy that india back to NO1 but wondering how? i believe team has to be consistent to be ranked as NO1.Ind lost all matches in SA & New zealand early this year and didn't qualify for final in Asia cup .Sri lanka on the other hand won asia cup beat England in england and pakistan recently!!!! Who is consistent among those and who ranked as No1. ICC rankings are always confusing!!!!

  • philander50 on September 1, 2014, 11:46 GMT

    Welcome my Aussie friends to the ranking system as a saffa can I say that I understand your feelings as this is what happened to us in the test rankings.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on September 1, 2014, 11:44 GMT

    India shown the guts to send junior team to ZIM over the years. Yes, they lost few years back, but won all games last time. On the other hand, some other teams send full strength team and lost test matches and ODIs. So, which one is acceptable?

  • xtrafalgarx on September 1, 2014, 11:37 GMT

    Oh, well. We weren't really the top one day side really. The World cups decide the best teams, India is currently world champs. We have to win it in order to be the best in the world.

  • 512fm on September 1, 2014, 11:35 GMT

    You can't be serious, wasn't long ago we (NZ) beat India 4-0...

  • on September 1, 2014, 11:28 GMT

    Indian team is counted in one of th most consistent teams in ODI.In 2011-12 also Ind. lost 3 games out of 5 , one is tied and other would have won whe Eng. needed 305 and they were 28-2 like that before rain had arrived.basic point in ODIs is conditions doesn't matter much and also field restrictions, white ball , 2 bouncers in over which mostly favour batting.Indian team have that balancs of attack and techniqual play among all the players like raina rahane dhoni kohli ande all of them and when batsmen are backked up by bowlers ,result comes always better.Now these 2 matches, though batsmen played well,but it was the bowling which stood up at their best and most importantly they exploited conditions well both seamers and spinners.Best Luck To Indian Team For Next 2 Matches

  • on September 1, 2014, 11:14 GMT

    @CricketFever11: But that Indian team played without Sachin, Sehwag, Gambhir, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Harbhajan, Munaf, Nehra and Zaheer who were all regulars in Indian ODI side at that point of time.

  • CricketFever11 on September 1, 2014, 11:09 GMT

    India lost to Zimbabwe twice in 2010.

  • missionbegins2011 on September 1, 2014, 11:03 GMT

    IND might win both the remaining matches against ENG but i think SA will reclaim no.1 spot by winning all the remaining matches of the tri series (including final)

  • on September 1, 2014, 10:51 GMT

    ODI rankings don't have much bearing on things , as teams need to win a World Cup to be true top teams as look how quickly and easy the ranking system changes.

  • on September 1, 2014, 10:47 GMT

    India is always a top side, when it comes to shorter format. .. But they also need to concentrate on test format too. we all keep on blaming ms Dhoni and criticing Dhoni's ability as a captain. Lets go back n see former captains in terms of team ranking. So be happy with what you are looking at the moment. . Cheers team india....get one white wash....alll the criticism will washed away

  • on September 1, 2014, 10:46 GMT

    I cannot understand how only three points were exchanged between Australia and Zimbabwe when there was a difference of nine spots between them. Even England lost three points against India. Is this an error on the ranking system's part?

  • Cricsnake on September 1, 2014, 10:37 GMT

    Congratulations from SL. After loosing the test series India recovered so fast. You need a lot of character to do so. Hats off to Ravi Shasthri for his efforts.

  • CricketFever11 on September 1, 2014, 10:36 GMT

    After losing next two ODI's India will come down again.

  • crzcric on September 1, 2014, 10:22 GMT

    But the real No 1 is SA.They played only 40 matches.but still able to get 113.

  • on September 1, 2014, 10:21 GMT

    Return of Raina Inform has boosted India's Middle Order , Virat too seems like he is getting his touch back ! Lower middle order with Mahi, Jaddu, Ash & Bhuvi looks safe.. Only the Opening pair still looks shaky :/ If Rahane can open & Yuvi can get back into team, India will be way ahead over every team in ODI format.. All the best going forward WC '15..

  • jain84 on September 1, 2014, 10:19 GMT

    Enough boost for India to win their remaining two matches ;)

  • FiGhtCluB_99 on September 1, 2014, 10:18 GMT

    Interestingly, Bangladesh are still at 9th spot despite losing every match so far this year.

  • on September 1, 2014, 10:02 GMT

    Indian : Thanks a lot Zimbabwe..

  • EnglishCricket on September 1, 2014, 10:01 GMT

    Look at how many matches India has played compared to all the other teams. Not only more matches means higher up in the rankings but players making free records for themselves and achieving career high player rankings.

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  • EnglishCricket on September 1, 2014, 10:01 GMT

    Look at how many matches India has played compared to all the other teams. Not only more matches means higher up in the rankings but players making free records for themselves and achieving career high player rankings.

  • on September 1, 2014, 10:02 GMT

    Indian : Thanks a lot Zimbabwe..

  • FiGhtCluB_99 on September 1, 2014, 10:18 GMT

    Interestingly, Bangladesh are still at 9th spot despite losing every match so far this year.

  • jain84 on September 1, 2014, 10:19 GMT

    Enough boost for India to win their remaining two matches ;)

  • on September 1, 2014, 10:21 GMT

    Return of Raina Inform has boosted India's Middle Order , Virat too seems like he is getting his touch back ! Lower middle order with Mahi, Jaddu, Ash & Bhuvi looks safe.. Only the Opening pair still looks shaky :/ If Rahane can open & Yuvi can get back into team, India will be way ahead over every team in ODI format.. All the best going forward WC '15..

  • crzcric on September 1, 2014, 10:22 GMT

    But the real No 1 is SA.They played only 40 matches.but still able to get 113.

  • CricketFever11 on September 1, 2014, 10:36 GMT

    After losing next two ODI's India will come down again.

  • Cricsnake on September 1, 2014, 10:37 GMT

    Congratulations from SL. After loosing the test series India recovered so fast. You need a lot of character to do so. Hats off to Ravi Shasthri for his efforts.

  • on September 1, 2014, 10:46 GMT

    I cannot understand how only three points were exchanged between Australia and Zimbabwe when there was a difference of nine spots between them. Even England lost three points against India. Is this an error on the ranking system's part?

  • on September 1, 2014, 10:47 GMT

    India is always a top side, when it comes to shorter format. .. But they also need to concentrate on test format too. we all keep on blaming ms Dhoni and criticing Dhoni's ability as a captain. Lets go back n see former captains in terms of team ranking. So be happy with what you are looking at the moment. . Cheers team india....get one white wash....alll the criticism will washed away