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January 27, 2014

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Graeme Swann has spoken of his heartache at quitting midway through the Ashes but believes it was the only decision he could make having felt "awful" in his bowling as the elbow problem he managed throughout his Test career became unmanageable.

Swann announced his retirement after England lost the series in Perth, at the time saying his body was no longer up to the demands of international cricket. His decision to hang up his boots with two Tests still to go split opinion between those who praised a courageous decision and others who felt he should have seen out the tour, irrespective of whether he played or not.

He had earmarked the end of the Ashes as when he would bring a close to his Test career, but as early as the warm-up matches he knew he was struggling. He had undergone a second elbow operation earlier in the year - missing the Test matches in New Zealand - and admitted that since returning during the last English season he had never felt himself.

"Quite simply, I was awful," he said on his BBC Radio Five Live programme, Not Just Cricket. "Whenever I bowled in the past, I could always get a lot of revolutions on the ball, dip and trouble most batsmen I bowled at.

"But from the outset of the tour, in the warm-up matches, I just couldn't do it. After my second elbow operation, I've never really got the same revolutions I got before it, but it just [deteriorated] and I really felt powerless to tie people down."

Swann took seven wickets at 80 in the three Tests - meaning he finished his career with 255 scalps at 29.96 - and it was during the Adelaide Test, as Australia posted 570 in the first innings, that reality began to set in for him.

"In Adelaide, I was getting hit for six by a rabbit who bats at No. 11," he said. "It gets to a point that you realise you are hindering the team. You are not helping them in any way.

"It's a horrible feeling to come to terms with because you are playing for your country, you love playing cricket for England and it's your life, but to actually come to that conclusion is possibly the most sobering decision I have ever had to make. It was horrendous."

Swann's departure as England lurched towards a whitewash fuelled speculation about a breakdown in the dressing room, a theme which gathered pace once the series was concluded with suggestions that Andy Flower and Kevin Pietersen could no longer work together and that Flower would demand the batsman was dropped.

However, Swann, who has admitted to having issues with Pietersen during his career, insisted that there were no rifts or personal feuds while he was part of the squad in Australia.

"It will probably surprise people to hear that the changing-room was not divided," he said. "It was remarkably calm. People just knew we were not performing and they were doing whatever they could to improve that.

"He's had his moments in the past where he certainly has been divisive in the dressing-room, but to be fair to Kev, since coming back from his 'reintegration' he has been much improved."

Swann also defended Alastair Cook's captaincy. "He had to try and be funky as the series went on because we were terrible. People say he is not a good captain and Clarke had the rub on him but Clarke had a guy he could turn to seemingly at any point who could get a wicket and Cooky never had that," he said.

"No man could have captained us this winter. There is not a man on earth. If we had brought back Mike Brearley he wouldn't have done any good. We were terrible."

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Posted by   on (January 29, 2014, 23:34 GMT)

Can you really dismiss somebody as a 'rabbit'... if your team did not dismiss him ONCE in a five match series?

Posted by OneEyedAussie on (January 29, 2014, 12:58 GMT)

Interesting piece of revisionist history. Swann has never bowled well in Australia. And the elbow didn't seem to be troubling him too much in the English home Ashes.

Posted by BobtheBowler on (January 29, 2014, 5:31 GMT)

AAPatel et all you aussies having a pop at Swanny : Seems we've forgotten the mid-ashes departure of one Damien Martyn, not so long ago, have we?

Posted by glance_to_leg on (January 29, 2014, 0:39 GMT)

Wonderful cricketer, talented man, and one of the few sportsmen to be genuinely amusing when interviewed. He was so right to stand down. There again, given his fitness problems he should never have been picked. Nor should Trott. Nor probably should Tremlett (who bowled military medium all season) or Finn or Bres or Rankin ... Oh, and Bairstow shouldn't have been there either, although just because he is not up to it and never was. On a different topic, what exactly is Dernbach doing in the T20 squad? There must be at least a dozen English seamers who can bowl better (Willey, Topley, Napier - ok he is 34, but he can bat too -, Meaker ...).

Posted by   on (January 28, 2014, 20:11 GMT)

@proudbrummie The difference with Warne is that he didn't really need a googly, he was still spinning it miles and taking stacks of wickets. Whereas Swann on the otherhand has never really had that much variation, and more relied on big spin + the occasional arm ball. Since that 2nd operation it is clear that he was nowhere near the bowler that he was, he was not spinning it anywhere near as much, and was clearly starting to look increasingly more ineffective as time went on, and hence has become a much easier bowler to get hold of.

This would have been his last series anyway, but I can't help but feel that this was a tour too far for him, especially as he didn't look right during the home Ashes IMO, despite taking over 20 wickets, he just didn't look like anywhere near the same bowler as he did a couple of years ago in my view.

Posted by proudbrummie on (January 28, 2014, 11:33 GMT)

inexcusable behaviour, warne had similar probs and cxouldnt bowl his googly late on in his career, Sadly Swan bottled it! He was imho the best spinner England have had since Derek Underwood. But however you dress it up, he let himself his team & his country down. I went to Sydney for the trip of a lifetime, however England let the fans down with a display as pathetic as I can ever recall! It was embarrassing in the extreme.How any7one can defend him is beyond belief, they certainly do not understand Team mentality, all for one and one for all!

Posted by   on (January 28, 2014, 11:31 GMT)

Swann came into the series with a deserved aura, based on his ability to get swerve and dip on the ball, through very high revs. If the England selectors believed that the Australians didn't know that his elbow no longer permitted him to bowl with these weapons, they could be pardoned for trying to bluff their way to a few wickets, even though Swann was only coasting. If the Australians knew the truth, and their plan to target Swann was based on the knowledge that he was just rolling the ball down, the England gamble was a failure from the start. If it only succeeded by chance (because he could no longer fool them in the flight) it became a failure within a match or two. In either case, Swann was entirely justified in bowing out, having played his part in this attempted bluff.

Posted by Longmemory on (January 28, 2014, 6:00 GMT)

The article evades the most obvious question: why quit in mid-series? Swann could have gone up to his captain and coach and told them what he tells us in this article: "I don't have it any more, please drop me for the remaining two tests. I'll be happy to carry the drinks if you want me to, or help Monty in any way I can in the rest of the series." That's it - as simple as that. Would have brought a dignified if low-key end to a very good career. But he had to place his ego above everything else, and not care a whit for the impact of that sudden departure on the rest of the team - especially after Trott had left in the way he had.

Posted by AussiePhoenix on (January 27, 2014, 23:12 GMT)

Swann and this article sum up English cricket team really. Assuming he could play at 70% or less and still beat Australia. Did you honestly think you could just rock up and win a 4th series in a row? Attitude and high self opinion always leads to a fall, in this case 9-1. More importantly, a ruined elbow doesn't stop you swallowing your pride so you can support your team mates. Harris has been bowling with one knee for his whole Test career, including several losing series. He carried drinks when sitting out games. You have the nerve to question KP's character? Interesting cheap shot at Lyon, who remained not out for the series against all England's bowlers. How many rabbits in the England tail Swann? Hilarious that England continue to mock Lyon, how many key wickets did he get in the series?

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 22:27 GMT)

Can't understand why people are laying into Swanny quite so hard. He knew he couldn't contribute properly and he knew the selectors wouldn't drop him so he retired there and then. It's not as if there wasn't another spinner on tour - let's not forget that Monty once wore the mantle of 'best since Underwood'. Everyone knew that this was Swann's last tour and the fact that there is no ready replacement is hardly his fault. England attempted to blood Kerrigan and it failed. Such is life.

As for the rabbit comment - Lyon is statistically the best Test no.11 of all time but but so what? Rabbit doesn't exactly equate to serial killer! Swann was brilliant for England - I wish him all the best.

Posted by ShutTheGate on (January 27, 2014, 22:16 GMT)

Who's Swann calling a rabbit?

Swann looked like an absolute bunny against Mitchell Johnson.

Posted by AAPatel on (January 27, 2014, 21:48 GMT)

It is surprising that ICC or the ECB has not taken any action against Swann on quitting in the middle of a series. If any player from any other country would have done that he would have been banned from playing any type of first class cricket or international cricket. This shows how the BIG THREE will deal with the game in the future, whether it is Swann, Pietersen , Watson or any other, the players from the Big Three have always dictated their own terms and their actions have never been questioned by their cricket boards or ICC, Even the ex-players, Ian Chappel, Bothom, David Loyd ( now so-called experts and commentators ) also feel free to express themselves more vocally on TV.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 21:08 GMT)

greame swann.. handy batting down the order even belligerent sometimes.. crafty spinner.. unstoppable in his heydays.. and free spirited (and quick witted of course) in his interactions off the field.. he had a long run!!

Posted by Cyril_Knight on (January 27, 2014, 18:57 GMT)

That Swann felt he had to retire to save England from his bowling says a lot. It probably sums up what is entirely wrong with England at the moment, some players feel untouchable, undroppable and this was finally reflected this winter. Let's hope Flower and co learn from their mistakes.

Posted by EdwinD on (January 27, 2014, 17:24 GMT)

Would I be cynical in suggesting that in making his decision to retire mid-series, Swann had an eye on finishing with a bowling average of under 30....

Posted by salazar555 on (January 27, 2014, 16:45 GMT)

Swann did the right thing, if he felt he was letting the team down and couldn't get people out any more then he was right to leave. Better that than someone who sticks around picking up a pay check and not performing

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 15:44 GMT)

@Lexington North Maybe Swann wouldn't have retired if he was bowling well and England were still in the series or winning it - but that's exactly the point. Swann wasn't bowling well and it was in part because of this that England were performing badly. He was hindering the team and he knew it. I think the issue, as some others have already noted, is why he even went on the tour to begin with if it was apparent that his elbow problem had deteriorated so badly.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 15:25 GMT)

Indian fan here. Swann is probably the most under-rated spinner who's a legend to me for taking all his wickets in conditions that never suits spin bowling. Surviving with no "Doosra" in international cricket is a tough task for an off-spinner. But his loop, and foxy speed variations were such a treat to watch.

What a gem of a spinner he was! #Respect

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 15:11 GMT)

I am sorry to say Mr Swan that u were a good bowler but not a great person or sportsman at all. Calling someone rabbit is really disgraceful & please dont give lame excuse regarding ur elbow n all. Truth is that U guys had ur moments of success in the past against Aus but the world is really round, Aus played better cricket & most of ur guys were overconfident, although i still believe Eng is a much better side than what the Ashes results might have suggested.

Posted by drdickdixon on (January 27, 2014, 15:07 GMT)

Damned for retiring, selfish for even starting the tour. It's a shame that such a phenomenal player and character ends with so many aspertions cast and his wonderful career glossed over.

Tried to make it work, realised his mojo was shot and decided to quit. Mid-tour or not mid-tour, if you know your time is up, it's up - "should have tried a bit more" doesn't even come into it. Enjoy your retirement, Graeme, although I suspect it'll be in the public eye on telly...!

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (January 27, 2014, 15:02 GMT)

Swann was not out of form. He was great in England. So he had 3 bad away games. He shouldn't have retired. Come back out of retirement and say sorry.

Posted by A.Ak on (January 27, 2014, 14:31 GMT)

Yes, you were 'horrendous'

Posted by lancs-lion on (January 27, 2014, 13:51 GMT)

Swanny was a big part of England's success and a triple Ashes winner. Give him a break! Most people would be desperate to continue such a fantastic career...even if in denial. If anyone is at fault it is the management team or the selectors, who should know exactly who is fit and on top form...which clearly was not and still is not the case on this tour!

Posted by Puffin on (January 27, 2014, 13:30 GMT)

I can't help feeling that he ought not to have gone in the first place.

It might have got the rebuilding urge started a little sooner, if nothing else.

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (January 27, 2014, 13:23 GMT)

If Swann was already struggling in warm-ups/nets/rehab or whatever, why on Earth did the ECB/selectors persist with him? It's not like he was EVER going to be a significant threat in Australia, be that at 100% fitness and form or not. His only viable role in the Ashes in Australia would have been to contain an end bowling, and maybe contribute with the bat (and I suppose he was a decent slip-catcher as well so shouldn't ignore that). He managed none of the above and whether that was down to him simply being finished as a cricketer or the Australian's just beating the hell out of him, it matters not. ANY shadows of doubt over fitness and/or severe lack of form must be looked into and better dealt with by the ECB. Enough already of this picking and sticking with egotistical players on promise/past glories alone. This saga will not only divide opinions on Swann himself, but once again tarnish the management/powers above that are/were every bit as responsible for this mess.

Posted by 200ondebut on (January 27, 2014, 13:18 GMT)

Swann has a very selfish attitude. He let everyone down buy quitting as he did. The team were already getting a mauling in the press - this just fueled the fire. If he was not fit - then just sit the matches out. Support the younger players coming in. He certainly wouldn't have made the same decision if Eng were 2 - 1 up.

We also need to get away from the thoughts that playing for your Country is a job. Its not, its a privilege. A true countryman would always be available if called upon.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 13:04 GMT)

When i first heard this, i was bemused by the general reaction of the media, pundits and fans that had nothing but praise for him. He's is own worst critic, i understand that, but quitting a tour in mid-series is inexcusable. Barring physical injury, mental exhaustion or family-bereavement, there's no reason to turn your back on your team-mates because the results and performances were not going your way. I'm not disputing that his elbow wasn't giving him any trouble, but it begs the question as to whether he would've left if he was bowling well and England were still in the series or even winning it?

Posted by njr1330 on (January 27, 2014, 13:00 GMT)

This all makes the selectors' decision to ruin Kerrigan's career before it had even started, all the more unforgivable ... if there is such a concept as more unforgivable!!

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 12:55 GMT)

Swabbit(Swann + rabbit) was simply irresponsible, how an you do this to your country swann? Should have tried bit more for the next two tests and then retire on a high note. But now you simply escaped from your duties. He should not be even treated as Eng's best spinner of course not the greatest I would say

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 27, 2014, 12:31 GMT)

The award winning 4 ashes in a row numbed the pain..... until it was 3 nil. great career.... history will decide the legacy.

Posted by CSpiers on (January 27, 2014, 12:23 GMT)

if Nathan Lyon is a rabbit I'd like to hear your opinion on your own batting form during the series Swanny? Or the rest of the English tail mind you, we all know it was one of the weakest tails ever witnessed in Australia.

Posted by BurtonPilgrim on (January 27, 2014, 12:19 GMT)

Poor old Swanny, can't win! If he'd stayed in Oz and carried the drinks for the last 3 matches, no doubt the same people would be criticising him for taking the money (+ cost of hotel bills etc) when there was no chance of him playing! Great player, great test career, the best England spinner I can remember (late 1970s onwards) and someone with a bit of character who should be an entertaining addition to cricket commentary or whatever other media career he pursues.

Posted by Barking_Mad on (January 27, 2014, 11:52 GMT)

Anyone who has played cricket at any level would understand how it would feel to have a team mate walk out on you when it matters. No problem with him quitting, big problem with him leaving a struggling team. Mentally this must have been pretty demoralizing for the other players.

Posted by Stumay on (January 27, 2014, 11:20 GMT)

Should have gone last summer with head held high. Why go on a tour if you know you're not in the right physical shape to perform well? Why on earth if during the warm-up games, ''he couldn't do it'', did he not stop then and give the squad the chance to get someone else in before the series started? I really do think there's more to this than is coming out at the moment.

Posted by Jason83 on (January 27, 2014, 11:12 GMT)

dont you just love people giving excuses for mistakes after the fact. FACT IS: never should have started the tour if he wasn't right, so he CAN NOT give excuses now. tarnished reputation...

Posted by ajetti on (January 27, 2014, 11:09 GMT)

Oh! Really? If he felt "horrendous" then why quit? Why could he not stay on the bench or carry drinks for his mates for the remaining two tests simply to keep up the morale? He could have told his "friend" Alastair Cook that he would not/could not play anymore but to quit in the way he did was hardly "courageous" (who gets these retarded ideas of even using such words to describe a quitter?). Cricket and all sport has its sad moments when one faces a loss. Look at Rafael Nadal, he could hardly move yet stayed on for FOUR sets! Yes, FOUR sets! Shame on Swann. But I am hardly surprised. He was never a team man, always full of himself and full of nonsense. Good riddance.

Posted by Quaker33 on (January 27, 2014, 10:59 GMT)

How sad that in sport, coaches, players even administrators are the best thing since sliced bread when they are winning. The moment individuals, teams, coaches etc hit a losing patch and they should all be sacked!! How fickle of the spectators. Swan was almost a genius and deserved the applause, having lost his touch for whatever reasons he was honest enough to admit so and move out of the way. In that respect he was dammed if he did and dammed if he didn't!

It's only a game!! The sun will shine again!

Posted by UsmanMuhammad on (January 27, 2014, 9:34 GMT)

Swanny, welcome to another career into media after retiring from test cricket. I can see reading this interview that you still can spin the ball!! To comment on Kevin's been divisive and reintegration was not needed at all, I wonder why all English cricketers find a soft target in him.

However, I always cherished watching you ball and running through sides at your best. When you came to seen first, I was critical of you replacing Monty but was proven wrong.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (January 27, 2014, 9:10 GMT)

Swann's availability for the tour that has seen the end of his career should have been questioned when the squad was selected. He, like all prospective tourists, should have been subject to a thorough physical examination. There are countless examples, some fairly recent (Broad; Ahmadabad) of players declaring themselves fit to play when subsequent events revealed the opposite. On his own admission, Swann was finished - and knew he was - 'as early as the warm-up matches'. So what does this say about the selectors & management? Were they crossing their fingers? Were they in denial? Were they in ignorance of Swann's fitness for a gruelling tour? England's management under the current regime has prided itself in its thoroughness & attention to detail. .. It would seem that in dealing with marginal minutiae, the major point of a key player's fitness wasn't given the same forensic treatment! When the failings of this tour are picked over, it would be as well to begin with the obvious.

Posted by FredBoycott on (January 27, 2014, 9:05 GMT)

Well, well, well. I can see Swanny can still spin it. Welcome to day one of Swannys reintegration as the cheeky chappie. Day 1 of his media career. Why is he only letting his fans know these 'reasons' today. It's because his radio show airs today. He has done it to suit his needs. Selfish reasons. The same reasons he stayed on knowing he couldn't bowl and the same reasons he walked. Once Swann had started the tour he should have seen it through. If only to show solidarity with his team mates. There's nowt' better for an Aussie than to watch a pommy quit, they love it. Unfortunately for him his legacy, after an excellent career, is reduced to 'that bloke who quit mid-series'. Sad, but self inflicted by selfishness. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER GIVE IN... #digin

Posted by Paul_Somerset on (January 27, 2014, 8:55 GMT)

I'm so glad I saw Swann bowling live for Nottinghamshire in a rain-ruined 4-day game at Taunton in August 2012. Despite the circumstances the effort Swann put into every delivery with his whole body was a unique sight. You really had to watch the man from side-on to appreciate just how much of a trier he was. The behind-the-arm views to which TV viewers are restricted give you no idea. Considering he was between elbow-operations at the time, his efforts are even more commendable in retrospect.

There's more to cricketers than soundbites and big-game televised coverage, and anyone labelling Swann weak or a quitter is just displaying their own lack of knowledge of the sport and the man himself.

Posted by jb633 on (January 27, 2014, 8:49 GMT)

If this is the case why did he not retire after the home ashes series. Instead he quit after a mauling and left us with nothing. We had to call up a spinner who was never even close to match fit or even up to international standards. I do believe him about his elbow as you could see his bowling was losing some of its zip, however he surely knew he was struggling before and was essentially going to leave us with nothing.

Posted by Madpashcrickers on (January 27, 2014, 8:48 GMT)

Somehow England had got to a point where Swann, Broad and Anderson were undroppable, whether they were performing well or badly or whether they were even physically up to the task.

Swann literally had to drop himself by retiring, otherwise they would have kept on selecting him until he was physically incapable of turning his arm over.

To me this is yet another symptom of endemic staleness and complacency in the England set-up, particularly as regards management and the so-called 'coaching.'

Posted by PrasPunter on (January 27, 2014, 8:43 GMT)

What did the Rabbit do to you Swanny to call him that ? Was it just a coincidence that the Rabbit was the one who dismissed you for the last time ever in your career ?

Posted by TheKeeper on (January 27, 2014, 8:33 GMT)

There is no reason anymore for us to listen to this pathetic boy-man. A childish twit who throws his toys out the pram when things don't go his way. A very bad sport if ever I've seen one.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 8:22 GMT)

Should have been honest prior to tour when he would have known that he wasn't firing on all cylinders. Should have been honest following warm up matches. Should have been honest to team mates. Should have been honest with fans, and, honestly, should have remained to carry the drinks, advise and support Panesar & Root. (I quit well before Rabbits were knocking me around the park). Poor end to a career Swanny! That's your legacy and lets be honest about that.

Posted by heretic on (January 27, 2014, 8:08 GMT)

Firstly, it is a very good thing in English cricket that emotional aspects / problems / issues are also considered as reason why a player will need time off and not considered as quitters.

Swann is history - who wants to listen to him. If I were in his place, I would have stayed there until the bitter end, with the team, even if I had to sit out the rest of the Tests! So I would call him a quitter!

Posted by dillyk on (January 27, 2014, 8:06 GMT)

Could have stayed on and helped the squad ... esp as he was such an influential member trying to paint a different picture of himself as a victim shows lack of respect for his team mates and cricket Very sad that one of the leaders in the group just basically decided it was it bit tough and that he is going to take a holiday

Posted by RyanHarrisGreatCricketer on (January 27, 2014, 7:59 GMT)

why did he not walk away immediately after the warmups if he was not performing as well as he did in his prime?

Maybe it is because he was ashamed by how the 'rabbit' outbowled him

Posted by Not_Another_Keybored_Expert on (January 27, 2014, 7:54 GMT)

The rabbit quote sums up Swann perfectly, Between that, the sprinkler dance and claiming that Chris Rodgers dismissal was embarrassing, talk about ordinary sportsmanship.

Posted by yuvi_gladiator on (January 27, 2014, 7:54 GMT)

it was very weak for swann to give up in the middle of the series. many of great off spinners have be smacked many a time in australia before so its a hard place to bowl for offspinners but swann was found wanting mentally when they started attacking him and australia exploited that till they made him quit

Posted by Winsome on (January 27, 2014, 7:47 GMT)

So we have another swipe at Lyon and another swipe at Pietersen. Losing respect for Swann by the article.

Posted by 512fm on (January 27, 2014, 7:45 GMT)

Pretty pathetic really, theres no reason why he couldn't have stayed on to help support the rest of the squad for the last two tests.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 7:42 GMT)

Graeme Swann has been one of England's best and most influential players in several decades, and he is clearly missed for his bowling and his personality, influence and attitude.

Speculation about what happens in the dressing room is futile: uninformed gossip is not helpful - it is for immature children in the playground, Kyle watchers and Sun readers.

Posted by Jimmyrob83 on (January 27, 2014, 7:27 GMT)

"In Adelaide, I was getting hit for six by a rabbit who bats at No. 11," This comment sums up Swann's weak mentality. Funny how the elbow was unmanageable once he was getting smacked around the park.

Posted by nccc on (January 27, 2014, 7:11 GMT)

Love that soumyas. Pakistan cricketers fight once every 20 years or so and they supposedly have "fighting attitude"? The rest of the time they spend losing and embarrassing themselves, but it's good to have selective memory I guess. As for Trott, shame on you for using someone's illness as an example of giving up.

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 7:02 GMT)

In Adelaide, I was getting hit for six by a rabbit who bats at No. 11," wow, thats good fuel to start some fire!!!

Posted by   on (January 27, 2014, 7:02 GMT)

The whole scenario stinks with problems, where were the much vaulted back up staff when these concerns raised their ugly head. No inclination on Swann's part to de- demonises Peterson, all up a very selfish bunch of cricketers. Need new direction to get the band show on the road again.

Posted by BradmanBestEver on (January 27, 2014, 6:54 GMT)

Credit to him that he jumped when realized that he was in the selectors sights before they pulled the trigger.

Because a few others in the English camp did not have the guts to follow Swann's example, they are a millstone hampering England's progress to get back to their typical position of just losing to Australia, rather than getting pasted from pillar to post

Posted by soumyas on (January 27, 2014, 6:34 GMT)

English cricketers lack in fighting attitude as compared to Australian,Indian,Pakistani cricketers. Looks like they give up easily, Trott episode is one more example.

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