England in India 2012-13

Used Test pitch will have 'pace and bounce'

George Dobell

December 2, 2012

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An aerial view of the Eden Gardens at its current state of completion, Kolkata, February 9, 2011
The Eden Gardens' groundsman insists cricket should be played on pitches with true pace and bounce
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England will be confronted by another used wicket when the third Test against India starts on Wednesday, according to the Eden Gardens curator, Prabir Mukherjee.

India's tactic of utilising a worn track backfired in the second Test in Mumbai. Despite winning the toss, India lost by 10 wickets with the England spin-bowling duo of Monty Panesar and Graeme Swann sharing 19 wickets and out-performing the three-pronged Indian spin attack.

While three surfaces have been prepared on the Eden Gardens square, Mukherjee stated that the Test pitch would be the same as that used for the match between Bengal and Gujarat. That match ended on November 20 - barely two weeks before the start of the Test - and foot marks from the bowlers' run-ups are clearly visible. But only 25 wickets fell over the course of the four-day game as the match ended in a draw and Mukherjee insisted the pitch would reward good cricket rather than providing too much assistance to bowlers of a certain type.

"Cricket should be played on pitches of true pace and true bounce," Mukherjee said. "Games should be decided by the quality of the player, not the pitch. It should be the way they bowl that matters. It is not about the pitch.

"This pitch was used for the Ranji Trophy game against Gujarat. They were 18 for 5 in their second innings but they fought back and the match was drawn. Swann and Panesar will enjoy this pitch. They bowl line and length. The pitch will have good pace and bounce."

Reports had suggested that Mukherjee was in dispute with India captain, MS Dhoni over the latter's demand for "a square turner" in Mukherjee's words. But Dhoni will be encouraged by news that a worn pitch will be used as it should assist his spinners and exploit what India believe is England's weakness against high-quality spin bowling. It also suggests that winning the toss will, once again, offer a substantial advantage.

Mukherjee laughed off the suggestion that he was unwell as reported by the Cricket Association of Bengal (CAB) - indeed, he looked in remarkably good health for a man reported to be 83 - and reacted with an ambivalent shrug to the suggestion that the BCCI or CAB were attempting to gag him. "I am at the fag end of my life," he said. "They are threatening to suspend me if I talk about the pitch. That is the treatment I get after more than two decades of service at CAB."

England have a modest record at Eden Gardens, where they have not played a Test since 1993. They have only won one Test there - in 1977 - and, of the other eight they have contested at the ground, have lost three of them. Only two England batsmen, Colin Cowdrey in 1964 and Tony Grieg in 1977, have scored Test centuries on the ground and no England fast bowler has taken a five-wicket haul on the ground in a Test since Bob Willis in 1977. No seamer has taken a five-wicket haul in a Test on the ground since Javagal Srinath in 1999.

Steven Finn did not bowl in training on Sunday. The England management insisted Finn, who was in action more recently than his seam bowling colleagues in the Test squad due to his participation in the England Performance Programme match, was being rested in line with his workloads plans and was not suffering from an injury. He will bowl in training on Monday before a decision is taken over his involvement in the third Test.

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Posted by colombo_SL on (December 5, 2012, 17:24 GMT)

I feel Prabir Mukherjee as a great man. Great move by you to benifit Indian Cricket in long run. I'm proud of you. If you provide this sort of pitch, India never lose 8 test matches in a row, again. "Games should be decided by the quality of the player, not the pitch. It should be the way they bowl that matters. It is not about the pitch." Well said. I take my hat off you sir.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2012, 4:22 GMT)

Yes in India Pitches should be flat & especially low bounce to give due advantage to Front foot batsmen & exploit batsmen who prefer backfoot.........................This kind of home advantage every team gets & Indians too should look for this advantage ...............................This poses a new challenge for batsmen that is lbw & bold so these low bounce pitches are good for cricket

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 4, 2012, 18:11 GMT)

@ Full-Blooded-Wallop: Then type what you wanted to say and post it. I am sick of reading the comments of some confused Ind fans here who have no idea what damage they are doing to their country's image by praising someone who is insulting their very own captain who won us 2 World Cups. Some of these Ind fans need to be given electric shocks so they wake up and see what the reality is. As many ppl here would know, I am a man of very intense opinions but I've never been angrier in my life on a cricketing topic. Not even Sydney 08 comes close to it. I really wish I could go to Kolkata, hunt this curator and give him a piece of my mind. Each time I read this article I become super-enraged. I wish I could shout through words, I wish I could record an audio post here to show how much anguished I was to hear this man saying Dhoni's request was immoral when he himself was talking to the media violating BCCI's orders. We need more posters like you here. It takes only 5-6 mins. Do it.

Posted by Full-Blooded-Wallop on (December 4, 2012, 15:38 GMT)

@harmony111: You echoed all what I was about to write...thanks for a really really sensible comment!

Posted by Naresh28 on (December 4, 2012, 8:37 GMT)

India will probably go in with same team - this means no place for Rahane and Dinda. Knowing Dhoni and coach. (Yuvi and Shewag could replace Bhajji's spin overs) Rahane like Tiwari awaits his turn - while warming the bench. Its quite obvious that India have too many non-performers in the team. Dhoni fears the unknown - Ganguly has called for Dinda to come in place of Yadav. The coach needs to address the players and single out players who are not stepping up. We lost the last test - due to 2nd innings collapse. The openers NEED TO GIVE INDIA A SOLID START.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (December 4, 2012, 7:55 GMT)

@DaisonGarvasis on (December 04 2012, 05:54 AM GMT), if such pitches are prepared in those countries then it is the decision of the individual groundsman to do so. The boards do not request them and the captains certainly do not. They stick to administration and playing respectively and leave the pitch preparation up to the groundsman. Noone in England, Australia or elsewhere is complaining about the fact that Indian pitches spin more. What we don;t agree with is the Indian captain and various other players asking, may demanding, pitches be over-prepared to advantage the home team when, if they were good enough, any pitch in India should advantage India already because it will be significantly different to what England would play on at home. You're not especially welcome for making me explain something that any sensible cricket fan should already be able to work out for themselves.

Posted by kumar692 on (December 4, 2012, 5:58 GMT)

India lost Mumbai test to England even before it began...i tell you why selecting "Harbajan Singh" (who has done nothing to deserve his place in Indian squad) in the team was Big Mistake. What it actually did was it shattered the confidence of Ashwin who has been doing well in a past year or so. I don't see any valid reasons for Harbajan being in the Indian squad in any format. Give him a break and let him go to county and play as much as he can to get into any sort of form.

As far as Third test is concern, it's going to be typical kolkata wicket with a lot of assistance for slower-throw-air spinners (Like Sawnn and Ohja) and dead flat mat wicket for fast blowers. So once again it's matter of adapting to the wicket quickly.

Posted by DaisonGarvasis on (December 4, 2012, 5:54 GMT)

For all those who say "Home teams should not make pitches to suit their game" - They can all hold their peace until the day SA, AUS, NZ and ENG do NOT prepare pitches with extra bounce, too much lateral movement just so it suites their game. If all of you did not chose to speak when such pitches are prepared in those countries, do not speak when a turning track is prepared in India. Hope its clear. You are welcome.

Posted by calidfern on (December 4, 2012, 5:37 GMT)

Come on England.. India will lose the whole series for sure...

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 4, 2012, 5:19 GMT)

To all those Ind fans who are saluting this curator saying he is standing up to Dhoni and BCCI: This man is an employee of CAB, a constituent of BCCI. So he is standing up not to an enemy but to the hand that has fed him (now fed up of him). He is using some weird logic to go against his own. First of all, Dhoni has not asked for a dust bowl, he has asked for a wicket which spins - Dhoni lost the 2nd test but knew it was his spinner who failed him and the pitch was good. This curator gives the example of a DRAWN match to say this wicket was good !!! Is a drawn match more preferred than a decisive result? And you ppl are saying this man is to be saluted? Are you ppl aware of something called INDIA? What about INDIA? Pitches don't score runs - yes, but batsmen score runs ON Pitches. No wait, not batsmen but its their bats that score the runs, no wait again, its their hands that move the bat, no wait, its their mind -- IT IS THE WHOLE COMBO THAT SCORE RUNS. --- contd.

Posted by Mitcher on (December 4, 2012, 4:56 GMT)

@getsetgopk: Couldn't have said it better myself. Well playerd, sir.

Posted by   on (December 4, 2012, 0:13 GMT)

What is the base of Dhoni's confidence in a square turning pitch? English spinners are bowling better than Indian spinners. With the current form, England may finish the things off on third day.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (December 3, 2012, 23:47 GMT)

I guess we'll have to wait for the game to see exactly how the pitch will play, but from what I can tell it sounds like it will be more like Ahmedabad, which Dhoni complained about after India won, than Mumbai, which was reported to be what Dhoni wanted and where India lost. What exactly is it that Dhoni wants anyway? Spinning like Mumbai but low like Ahmedabad? Sounds like an ugly pitch to me.

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 23:46 GMT)

@getsetgopk, Did u just got up after sleeping for last few weeks... Dhoni blamed the pitch after winning first test match... Nobody is blaming Mumbai pitch for losing the match including Dhoni... It is good pitch for test cricket, it is just back fired India... Normally I like Mumbai pitches... Most of pitches in India is dead slow and low and will not provide any assistance to the spinners... It is simple that English bowlers used the conditions better than Indian bowlers... It was similar to India winning against Australia in Perth in 2008...

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 19:29 GMT)

This Indian team does not have the requisite skills to be a good test side. Dhoni and Yuvraj are not good test players and Harbhajan and Tendulkar are past their prime. All these players need to be replaced with new talent. Conditions are the same for both teams and the team performing better will win. When are we going to use leg spinners?

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 19:01 GMT)

I think the curator should know his limits. Why is he acting like the chief of ICC. He appears to be in the news more than team India or England. It's his job to cater to the needs of the home team!! The same pitch is given to both the teams making it a fair game. I don't understand what the fuss is about

Posted by SpeedCricketThrills on (December 3, 2012, 16:25 GMT)

Dhoni obviously is looking for a pitch that produces a result, though he is fully aware that a turner can be to England's advantage too! It is quite likely that the curator does not know how to produce a 'rank turner' and is hence skirting the issue. And if the match does indeed end in a draw, it should mean that Mr Mukherjee goes into oblivion. Public interest in test cricket is waning and BCCI should set up a system by which matches that produce result (doesn't matter who wins) will mean handsome bonuses for the curator and other ground staff.

Posted by TheRisingTeam on (December 3, 2012, 16:01 GMT)

England should win this test with ease against minnows especially when the pitch will also have some pace and bounce.

Posted by yoohoo on (December 3, 2012, 14:18 GMT)

Oh man. India lose one test match at home, and god what is going on here? Aus just lost a match at perth, should their fans, selectors and everybody ask for wholesale changes?

The fact is that India is a team in transition, and so there will be losses until they get stabilized again. If Dravid and Laxman were playing this match, we wouldn't have lost it. But, when they were playing these same people commenting here wanted them to retire and give way to young folk. And as I suspected back then, the minute the youngsters fail, they will want to drop them. At this rate you will never build a team.

Ashwin, Ojha, Kohli all need time and our support. Ashwin has a lot to learn, and he seems smart enough and capable enough to do so. Ojha and kohli are exciting, but as we can see they will still take time to be consistent. Please have patience through this transition. All the teams have been through it, and india is no different.

Posted by getsetgopk on (December 3, 2012, 11:31 GMT)

India soon will have another wall, known as THE PITCH, on which a whole cricketing empire will stand, that is something. I feel for the poor groundsmen, they get a beating everything India is hammered, cant they just see its the lack of skill in this Indian side and not THE PITCH? Every time India looses, blame it on THE PITCH. Whats funny though is, before they they blamed it on the foreign PITCHES, now they have started crying about their own PITCHES. If they go on at this rate one day they will come up with PITCHES where it would be difficult walking on it from one end to the other let alone perform this thing known as BOWLING. Indian cricket is done for and they dont even see it.

Posted by SDHM on (December 3, 2012, 11:24 GMT)

I do think there is a line that has to be drawn in a home side's involvement in the pitches they want, but overall I'm not too fussed - it's called home advantage for a reason! In fact, it's something England could perhaps do a bit more of - I've often thought over the years England has been too accommodating to overseas sides, and I'd love to see a few greener, trickier wickets for Test matches here. The problem you face is what happened to India in the last Test, or what has been happening to South Africa at home for several years when they've rolled out green tops - it brings the opposition into the game, especially if you have underestimated your opponent.

Posted by iqbalsk8 on (December 3, 2012, 10:53 GMT)

After the 2nd test, the talk about the type of pitch to be used for 3rd test is so much that I have a feeling that the 3rd test is England vs The Pitch(not India). Its so embarrassing that India don't have a plan B at the moment. Even before the start of the series, India were relying heavily on spinning tracks but at the moment it seems like England are taking the most benefit of these tracks. However, whatever type of pitch is used for 3rd test, this match will be worth watching.

Posted by Sooryan_Indian on (December 3, 2012, 10:47 GMT)

If India think that England are more than handy, then it is a mistake. England are more threatening and capable of winning matches in the sub continent.

So beware INDIA. As an Indian supporter, I predict india to win this test match on the fifth day, may be in the second or last session, and a TENDULKAR TON

Posted by yoohoo on (December 3, 2012, 10:10 GMT)

@Dark_Harlequin - Similarly, you can either have spinning tracks with life in them, or dead pitches like the one in ahmedabad. On dead pitches india does not lose, and they win more that 75%. On pitches with life, that spin from day-1, either team could win depending on how the players perform. So, you prefer the pitches with life in Eng, but you don't want india to make pitches with life?

Posted by FastTrack_Bullies on (December 3, 2012, 10:07 GMT)

@Htc-Android: mate u r only thinking about 2011. roll back a bit and see who won the series in 2007 in england..its india, roll back again... it was a tie of 1-1 between these 2 teams...so is it clear now?

Posted by Mervo on (December 3, 2012, 9:56 GMT)

A used pitch for a Test match! How incredible. Can't they make new wicket anymore? Get some curators who can then.

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 9:44 GMT)

England have already proved their ability. They got nothing to lose. Its our team under a lot of pressure. Its for the young guns now how they tackle it. All this nonsense about the pitch is a waste a time. Its up to our players to prove their ability. Young talent should not be wasted by spoon feeding them. They should be taught to master and adapt to any given condition. Be it weather or pitch . Just imagine them facing the likes of steyn, morkel and philander. We dont want them walking back to the pavilion with broken noses and chins. Just hope, they learn something from the SA team. Even if we show 50% of the performance of what they did, we can easily wrap up the series 3-1. Good luck team.

Posted by correctcall on (December 3, 2012, 9:11 GMT)

Does India's need to tailor pitches explain why the BCCI has yet to announce the schedule for the test series against AUS in Feb /Mar - LESS THAN 3 MONTHS away? Is Dhoni incapable of planning that far ahead to demand his requirements?

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 8:56 GMT)

All professional cricketers should have the tools to combat conditions and dodgy pitches - home teams should not doctor pitches to accommodate its batsmen or its bowlers, to me that is a form of cheating

Posted by Harlequin. on (December 3, 2012, 7:08 GMT)

@maddy20, you talk as if any type of pitch you want can be created! I am no expert on these matters, but I always understood that to get turning pitches, you generally need a lot of sun - not exactly something the UK is known for unfortunately! So we can either make pitches with a bit of life in them for the seamers, or roll them to death and make a draw pitch. I can't imagine many Indian fans will agree with me on this one, given their recent performances on these shores, but I'd far rather the former.

Posted by Htc-Android on (December 3, 2012, 7:02 GMT)

@maddy20 whatever wickets you prepare, England won a test match in india with tough conditions. ur team won nothing england. Full stop.!!!

Posted by FLIPPER_99 on (December 3, 2012, 6:58 GMT)

Cricket is considered a gentlemans game & there certainly isnt any when India shamelessly asks for docroted pitches in favour instead of being sporty & accepting challenges which are due on a pitch. This is what is holding India back from producing world class bowlers & good performances abroad. India should really be more manly & accept that their batting isnt clicking & their bowling is below hopeless. Hope they turn things around anyway & atleast draw the series.

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 6:56 GMT)

htc-android every captain wants his home wicket to suite their team, dhoni has every rights to ask for square turner,as england and autralia has when India toured there.and even they have right to decide in which stadium to play, as Ganguly said on commentry. and thats the beauty of test cricket that you get bouncy and seaming wickets in australia, england, south africa, newzealand and spinner freindly wickets in subcontinent.but bcci should made bouncy and seamer freindly wickets for domestic games..

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 6:43 GMT)

BCCI, Media, & Advertisers... all of them would like to have a draw at Kolkatta for two reasons. In the third test they will get 5 days for advertisements. That is the minor reason. More important bone is the fact that the last test would be a cliff hanging decider. Or, they will publicize it so.

Posted by GregHowe on (December 3, 2012, 6:31 GMT)

England have a history of preparing wickets to their advantage, for many years, Old Trafford 1956 and Headingley 1972 being the most obvious and egregious instances. As recently as 1993, the English "Cricketer" magazine reported that the ECB instructed curators to prepare spinning wickets to counter the perceived threat of the Australian seamers McDermott and Hughes. It backfired somewhat (as it just did with India in Mumbai) due to a couple of Aussie slows, Tim May and the unknown rookie SK Warne! India's doctoring of wickets to suit their supposed strength is as offensive as England's has been, and detracts from what should be the integrity of the game.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (December 3, 2012, 6:25 GMT)

@Nampally: I hope you're wrong! I'll be very surprised indeed if Stuart Broad retains his place for Kolkata. As far as I can deduce, every England supporter hereabouts has called 'Time!' on SB for the time being. We know what a fit & firing SB looks like & we haven't seen that version of him for a while now. He's too good a cricketer not to return, but he needs to be fully fit to be fair to him. And Steve Finn will play, barring a late injury or illness; it's a no-brainer. He will present different challenges for the Indian bats & if the wicket has pace & bounce (as promised by the admirable Mr Mukerjee!) then I expect him to do well. The real question from an Eng perspective is who will bat at 5? Bell or Bairstow. but I've had my say on that one:JB for me.

Posted by Mitcher on (December 3, 2012, 6:22 GMT)

Seems a lot of Indian fans fail to grasp the concept of a doctored wicket. A green top in England or a bouncy wicket in sa/aust is not evidence of doctoring - that is the natural state of pitches in those countries/climates. Just as a turning pitch in India is not evidence of doctoring. A captain going to a curator thru media or back channels and demanding a pitch be made even more extreme to counter the home side's incompetence is a clear attempt at doctoring. Get it?

Posted by AKS286 on (December 3, 2012, 6:13 GMT)

don't trust indian pitches on pace bowling. batting first is the key on eden garden. can't imagine team with 2 spinners whether eng or ind. COOk,comton, bell, trott, KP,morgan, prior, bresnan, swann, anderson, panesar.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (December 3, 2012, 6:08 GMT)

@maddy20: to answer your question directly, no, English wickets are not doctored (with a few exceptions, as when Hadlee & Rice were operating for Notts at Trent Bridge decades ago). You must remember that in England & NZ (of all the other countries) seamers receive a fair amount of assistance with movement through the air. It is not the wickets, per se, that are responsible for good returns for quicker bowlers. It is this swing that often defeats batsmen from other nations as it provides a completely different challenge to what they've grown accustomed to. The rainier the summer, the greater the humidity, the more the movement. Pakistan regularly unearth bowlers who exploit damp English conditions very well indeed. In drier summers (how we all wait for those!) spinners come into their own. All of this aside, I'm sure that you would join with me in hoping that the Kolkata Test is a fair test of the strengths & application of the two sides. Win or lose, let's hope to see a good one!

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 3, 2012, 5:48 GMT)

--- contd--- With friends like this curator who needs enemies !!! Imagine a bat manufacturer refusing to make bats as per the requirements of Dhoni & co saying BATS DON'T SCORE RUNS, BATSMEN DO. Imagine the caterer saying DIETS DON'T SCORE RUNS, BATSMEN DO.

Someone needs to explain why is a spinning wicket IMMORAL but a bouncy wicket ideal? WHY WHY WHY? If you ask the Eng or Aus or SA fans ofc they would say yes cos that is their strength god damn it. Why would they say a spinning wicket is good or a slow wicket is nice when it negates their bowler's extra pace? Every war or even a little skirmish is fought opportunistically. That is obvious, that is an axiom. Even those who hunt lion in their dens have the means to do it, only a fool would do otherwise. When Ind does not have fast bowlers and the best they can arrange is spinners then WHY SHOULD THE WICKET NOT HELP SPIN?

Some of us Ind fans and this curator suffer from an inferiority complex and parrot the lines of the Eng. Shame.

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (December 3, 2012, 5:32 GMT)

@Nampally, that was the point of Finn playing for the development squad in Mumbai, to see if he could bowl and give him and the management confidence that he wouldnt break down in the middle of a test....@maddy, the best test wicket for spin in England is the Oval, if the games are played at the end of the year after its had time to 'bake' in the moderate english weather, and I believe that Swann took the majority of those wickets on the oval pitch. As for doctoring pitches, leaving grass on them isnt doctoring, the ball swinging is more about atmospherics than the pitch, something no groundsman or captain can control, as we say in England, first look up not down if you win the toss.

Posted by SLAMMER on (December 3, 2012, 5:16 GMT)

This is how we are. INDIANS, we jump up and down and get very emotional when others show us in poor light or call us names. When the Indian team goes over to Australia or England, the whole system i.e. the media, the former players, the whole setup gang up in putting down the team, being critical of anything and everything from professional form to personal habits.They doctor pitches, plant stories against the best players, spread rumours of team rift etc. When these teams visit India, what do we do, we squabble amongst ourselves like a divided house,become holier than thou and slam our own team and captain. Who needs enemies when the team has supporters like us! Forget the result of this series guys, the behaviour of us supporters of the Indian cricket team is pathetic to say the least.

Posted by Nampally on (December 3, 2012, 2:44 GMT)

England will field an unchanged XI from the Mumbai Test but are playing "mind games" with Finn.If they choose Finn they will have to discard either Broad or Anderson + risk injury to Finn on Day 1, if England field first. All this with the hope that Finn magically bowls at his peak with injury at the back of his mind. If they play 3 seamers + 2 spinners, Patel will be dropped. This weakens the batting especially when KP &/or Cook get out early. Mind you England won on the backs of just 4 players - Panesar, Swann, KP & Cook. Also India's Big 4 Sehwag, Tendulkar, Kohli & Yuvraj failed. India also had Harbhajan in XI! If India's Big 4 succeed this time & Harbhajan is kept on the bench + England's Big 4 do not deliver, the tables can still turn upside down. What are the odds of this happening? So forget the pitch, Mukherjee & Dhoni & move forward to the match itself with above interesting odds.India won last 3 matches here while England no Wins in over 30 years. MY Guess ? India Wins!

Posted by Htc-Android on (December 3, 2012, 2:37 GMT)

@Narbavi. take a note from sri lanka. we may have lost to nz. but we prepared sportive track that assist both spinners and seamers. not like ur captain asking the curator to prepare flat ptiches and rank turners to save his team. we could have done the same thing and crushed nz in the second test. but we dint do that. the curator was right. he is the one who makes decision about the pitch. not the captian. have u ever seen any captain asking for a pitch that suits the home team. hope to get a reply from you!!!!!

Posted by Htc-Android on (December 3, 2012, 2:25 GMT)

its time for india to prepare one those flat decks( actually i should say highways). so their batsmen can pile up all those runs and they can score 700 to 800 runs. so their fans can finally cheer something.

Posted by Nampally on (December 3, 2012, 2:22 GMT)

There is no reason for Indian team can't counter Panesar & Swann in their own back yard despite Dhoni conceding that Panesar is too good for India! This is a Defeatist Attitude. Batsmen from Sehwag,Gambhir down to Ashwin @ #8 should go determined not to give their wkts. to these spinners. Bowlers like Ashwin,Ojha & Yuvraj should focus on getting the England batting out by planned approach. Also Dhoni should focus on sensible field setting & learn from his mistakes. Don't forget, Panesar was discarded by England for 2 years & is coming from "Reject List". A.Chopra wrote a column advising England how to play spin bowling recently - Naivity at its best! Now will Chopra write another one for the Indians? Strong mental attitude & intensity is absent in Team India.Go in with Ponting -like combative attitude & fight tooth & nail to WIN. Fielding same defeated team is a huge folly. Ishant will likely come in for Bhajji.Tiwary should have been the second change to Win.Fans,Keep fingers crossed!

Posted by satz24 on (December 3, 2012, 2:17 GMT)

Pace and bounce??? haha.

Surprised at that fool Dhoni asking for a turning pitch. Neither his batsmen nor his spin bowlers could take any advantage of the turn on the Mumbai pitch. Especially when you look at how the England batsmen and their spinners used the pitch.

Posted by gsingh7 on (December 3, 2012, 1:47 GMT)

it wud be typical kolkatta pitch which breaks on 4th day so bat last at ur risk, secondly why he should think of enjoyment of panesar, is he paid by ecb, bcci should act quick and sack him at earliest, for all the world , swann and panesar cud go wicketless and he should care less

Posted by Kays789 on (December 3, 2012, 0:54 GMT)

as long as there's bounce above the knee roll, india will be rolled over by england easily. how they ever got to no. 1 (even by playing only at home) no one would ever know.

Posted by   on (December 3, 2012, 0:45 GMT)

Eden Gardens.. am waiting for the match to begin!!

Posted by maddy20 on (December 3, 2012, 0:18 GMT)

@Nutcutlet Fair wicket huh? Its funny you English fans blabber all kinds of stuff when it comes to India. Can you name one wicket in England which assisted spinners in the last England tour of India? Looking up the stats Graeme Swann picked 13 wickets at an average of 40+ where as Broad, Anderson, Bresnan picked 81 wickets between them at an average of under 20. Broad averaged 13 for his 29 wickets. Aren't those doctored wickets? Do you really think they are that good after their performances so far in this series? They were ruthlessly exposed in Ahmedabad and were largely ineffective in Mumbai despite of the good pace, bounce and carry in the wicket! Broad has no wickets so far, Bresnan also has Nada and Anderson has 2 in two games at 77.5 a piece, that despite of the Indian seamers averaging 27 in the series so far!

Posted by JustIPL on (December 2, 2012, 23:49 GMT)

Used pitch means that Indian openers can survive the english bowlers. In case the new pitch is laid it may help fastmen straight away and if India have to bat first then it will be it. A used pitch from a ranji game is no more secret for both India and England so a drawn game is highly expected.

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 23:13 GMT)

Second half of the title might be read as (slow) pace and (low) bounce.

Posted by theRule19 on (December 2, 2012, 22:59 GMT)

To intentionally ask for spin friendly tracks just because the Indian team were presented with pacy tracks overseas by other teams proves that the captain does not have faith in his pace bowlers at all. A balanced team is a one which has a proper combination of pace and spin bowlers. For how long are you going to persist with only Zaheer Khan and spinners, look at what happened in Mumbai. Still a sound pace attack is needed. Ashwin, and Ojha seem to be slow starters as usual anyway, let alone Harbhajan who has just lost the control and variations he once had. A strong test team has the ability to win everywhere come what may the conditions are and to ask the curators to present pitches which suit your style of play doesnt prove anything. What happens if the Indian batting fails again..BCCI and the selection committee should consider this. No complaints with Eden Gardens pitch curator..Nonetheless best of luck team India.

Posted by leggetinoz on (December 2, 2012, 22:38 GMT)

Good on him, pitch preperation should be completley independent of the teams involved. In SA, England and Australia, the wickets are kept pretty similar throughout all the seasons regardless of what Indians think about us preparing "green tops". If Cook, Clarke or Smith came out in the press like Dhoni stating that they want a certain style of pitch so that we increase our chances of winning the press would crucify them as weak leaders.

The issue isn't that of having turners in India, it is the fact that the team are so blatantly trying to pressure curators to get it. All it does is make it look like that India don't trust their own abilities against high quality opposition whether it be at home or away. Not surprising, when your comeback to words said on the field after whitewashed series is "well, we will beat you in India" you better make sure you do.

Posted by landl47 on (December 2, 2012, 22:34 GMT)

England will be hoping that what Mr. Mukerjee says is true and it will be a pitch with pace and bounce. The only type of pitch England doesn't want is a slow, dead one. England's batsmen are used to the ball coming on to the bat and a pitch where the ball stops and keeps low is the most difficult to handle for them. Swann and Panesar have shown they are more than a match for India on pitches with a bit of life- they bowl at a lively pace and where the ball bounces and turns they are a real handful.

Posted by SDHM on (December 2, 2012, 21:57 GMT)

If it can be believed, England, after their performance in Mumbai, will be the happier of the two sides. Still wouldn't mind winning a toss for once though!

Posted by SanjivAwesome on (December 2, 2012, 21:34 GMT)

England will flatten India. Because they select their team on performance and merit. We are too sentimental and fuddy duddy in our selections.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (December 2, 2012, 20:57 GMT)

Something tells me England WILL struggle here. India to win this one baring another poor show by the Indian batting line up which HARDLY happens twice in a row in Indian conditions. So India to win this one for me with a game to go.

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 20:21 GMT)

I hope game goes to 5th day as I am in Kolkata in the morning Sunday and have tickets for last day!!!

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 20:03 GMT)

Too bad that many in this forum didn't understand the meaning of a pitch "with true pace and bounce"..:)

Posted by ksrajavel87 on (December 2, 2012, 19:52 GMT)

My test team for next Home series- gambhir,sehwag,pujara,Rahane,Dinesh karthik,Kohli,manoj tiwary or Jadeja(I am not a fan of jadeja but someone scored 2 triple centuries in one season he must be tested at intl level),Ashwin,Umesh yadav,Ohja, Dinda.. bench-(Smit patel wk,opener, pankaj singh,)

Posted by brittop on (December 2, 2012, 19:44 GMT)

moBlue: surely the aim should be to make a wicket that does provide some assistance to quicker bowlers at the start if the game, with deterioration helping spinners towards the end. To help only one type makes selection easier. Of course it's not always achievable for all sorts of reasons, climatic, soil types etc.

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 19:44 GMT)

...only 25 wickets fell over the course of the four-day game as the match ended in a draw...

Does that speak of the quality of the pitch or, does that speak of the quality of the batsmanship?

Look at how many Ranji matches end up in draw. Looks at how many centuries, double centuries and even triple centuries are getting scored.

Flat pitches have practically kiled spin bowling in India. These pitches also have given birth to many flat track stars who don't have skills to negotiate wickets with "life".

If Indian Curators keep preparing lifeless flat tracks (as they have been doing for the Ranji matches) it will bury test cricket in India forever.

Posted by NikhilNair on (December 2, 2012, 19:22 GMT)

During good times, praises comes in heaps. But the worst is... during bad times, the criticisms arrives in truck loads! I just hope Team India can overcome this bad phase they are going through for some time now. Please shoot for not tailor-made, but hard-earned glory.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (December 2, 2012, 19:14 GMT)

@Sinhaya, You forget to mention that Swann has been universally acclaimed, for the last three or more years, to be the biggest turner of a cricket ball in international cricket.

Posted by Mitcher on (December 2, 2012, 18:52 GMT)

Now that home umpires can't deliver their wins, and curators are refusing to deliver their wins: how will India win? The players? No no, that doesn't sound right.

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 17:34 GMT)

Dhoni can't play quality spin or quality pace. He is good for soap opera like IPL only,he doesn't deserve a place in the National Test Team....kick him out.

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 17:02 GMT)

India hit new low with Dhoni demanding tailor made pitches to suit his team. What about Nagpur Mr. Dhoni? What kind pitch you want there? The one that assists India Bowlers and not the English.

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 16:36 GMT)

Or they might just be trying to play another mind game to confuse the English in picking the bowling department ;)

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 16:34 GMT)

good job ,the curator. no way india deserves to win.

Posted by A.Sarkar17 on (December 2, 2012, 16:31 GMT)

How easily are statements distorted. Nowhere has the curator claimed that the track will be pacy and bouncy. He has said the pace and bounce will not be uneven. Rank turners with the pitch crumbling can lead to unpredictable bounce and some deliveries can stop while others shoot through. Mr. Dhoni may consider these essential for T20 specialist spinnerswho lack consistency to succeed in tests but it is not good for test cricket. Even slow turning pitches should at least have even bounce for good quality cricket.

Posted by CandidIndian on (December 2, 2012, 16:25 GMT)

Issue is just of ego and nothing else,in my view captain has full right to demand the pitch as he is most accountable whether team wins or loses. Mukherjee is just another egoistic man who thinks so high of himself. Dhoni demanded for rank turner in Mumbai and even if India lost he accepted that pitch was sporting.Its clear that all Dhoni wants is a sporting wicket which helps bowlers too,not the usual dust-bowls with nothing in it for bowlers.

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 16:23 GMT)

Bluff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Alexk400 on (December 2, 2012, 15:49 GMT)

Why punkaj singh not in indian team is beyond any common sense. BCCI is against rajastan players for strange reasons. This is bad.

Posted by Nampally on (December 2, 2012, 15:36 GMT)

@Nutcutlet: Well said Sir, right on.I would much rather have guys like Mr.Mukherjee in the Selection Panel than the present Selectors who are picking their favourites rather than the best players."Games should be decided by Quality of players not the pitches".That is a 100% true statement. India has lot of quality players but the Selectors & Dhoni prefer "Deadwood & sentimantal favourites". Dhoni conceded that Panesar was unplayableinstead of means to combat him with his own spinner(s) & batsmen. Are these really the best India can offer when you are "hiding a dozen better players in the Cupboards"? This has been going on since the past 2 overseas tours.Tiwary, Rahane, Rahul after being benched repeatedly are just recovering their Psyche! Raina, Mukund, Vijay, Jadeja, Kumars & Singhs have been IN & OUT like yo-yo's before being discarded.Kohli & Pujara are finally IN. Talent like Chand, Mandeep, Aparajith & Sandeep have long way to go ! Zero Accountability, No commitment or Intensity.

Posted by yuvarule on (December 2, 2012, 15:35 GMT)

if matches are at sub continents manoj could play the team 4 sub continent yuvraj,sewhag,pujara,gambhir,kohli,M tiwary,D karthik,ashwin,ohja,yadhav,pankaj. pl its best 4 dhoni to b out of test he wont last long in both spinnin tracks as well as seamin pitches and more over he cud do well in one days n 20-20 more over t pressure of captancy in one days 20-20 ipl n champions trophy itself more tan a man to take.

Posted by Romenevans on (December 2, 2012, 15:35 GMT)

Dhoni is the most rude and egoistic person i have ever seen. Ego problem of not having the DRS has been back-firing india and now when they want it, they won't take it, because their Ego will come in the scene. As an Indian fan i wish that India lose this series and we see the back of Mr. Ego Singh Dhoni.

Posted by yuvarule on (December 2, 2012, 15:30 GMT)

anyone wit good cricket mind comment abt this.. team should be for next 15 matches after eng series give t team a run n i am sure india wil get back 2 no 1 in test ranking.. some mit b strange but it wil wrk if any selectors hav t guts do tis. dhoni is a good wicketkeeping batsma 4 1day n 20-20. giv him out of test cap put sewhag as cap we need a aggressiv cap like ganguly 2 win overseas sewhag wil do tat. team 4 overseas in batting order. sewhag, yuvraj,pujara,gambir,kohli,D karthik,ashwin,I pathan,yadhav,Z khan,pankaj/I sharma.. reserve-varon ohja rahane tiwary M vijay. u mit find a batsman less but D karthik is better batsman than dhoni and ashwin n pathan wil do well as 7 batsman. v wil have good bowlin options n flexiblity.yuvaraj dwn at 6 wil nvr mak it giv him a run at top n gambir at 4 wil b doin better too give tis a try n see wat happens i wil b happy if tis cud b taken up 2 ganguly r gavaskar

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 15:25 GMT)

@ Nutcutlet. You seem to know Mr Mukherjee, even better than his own family members. Anyway, the old soldier is right: " Pitches don't score runs, batsmen do". Hope the batsmen ( from both teams) know that too, when they are in the middle.

Posted by shillingsworth on (December 2, 2012, 15:18 GMT)

'It also suggests that winning the toss will, once again, offer a substantial advantage' An odd statement given that the advantage in the first test was hardly substantial (England lost the toss and the match but totalled over 400 in the second innings) whilst it was non existent in the second test (England won by 10 wickets having lost the toss).

Posted by Sinhaya on (December 2, 2012, 15:04 GMT)

Swann will have a real field day if there is bounce. He gets a high amount of zip and is one of the fastest spinners I've ever seen.

Posted by Narbavi on (December 2, 2012, 15:02 GMT)

@vagee: Expert eh?? Hope someone recommends you to the selection panel!!

Posted by Narbavi on (December 2, 2012, 15:00 GMT)

Mr. Mukherjee, your actions are clearly the worse i have seen, you put your own stuff ahead of the team, you protested in 2005 against the sacking of ganguly by preparing a bouncy wicket and now you are protesting against Dhoni after he termed the pitch ugly last year!!

Posted by Metro-ant on (December 2, 2012, 14:55 GMT)

Captains can and only should advise the curator of the type of wicket they want. Finally an Indian standing up to the team/board with their bullying tactics where if an Indian doesn't do what they say, he is unpatriotic.

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 14:46 GMT)

This man is nuts. This game will be a draw, thanks to him.

Posted by torsha on (December 2, 2012, 14:34 GMT)

Dhoni is right as always. When previous captains asked for pitch they wanted, I haven't seen him barking too much. Stick with Indian conditions Mr!

Posted by Nampally on (December 2, 2012, 14:20 GMT)

"Games shoulodbedecided by the quality of theplayers, Not the Pitch"!. Even a Curator knows Cricket better than the Indian Selectors & the Captain, Dhoni.How can India field the same team after a humiliating defeat in the previous Test defies Logic. It is better to put Mr. Mukherhee on the Selection Panel. If Panesar & Swann will get any assistance from this wkt. the Test match is over even before it started.Only Pujara, Gambhir & Ashwin played with guts & determination. Guys like Kohli, Dhoni, Yuveaj, Sehwag & Tendulkar ereally need to look themselves in the mirror & ask whether they deserve a chance to represent India. In bowling Harbhajan was waste of space even for a demestic team let alone Team India. Even Jadeja is lot better than some of the guys in there.Selectors: Even now it is not too late to include Tiwary in batting & a right arm leg spinner like Rahul Sharma in bowling. Be honest & give India a chance to be competitive. The present squad is not the best Team India!

Posted by Harlequin. on (December 2, 2012, 14:18 GMT)

Ha, @nutcutlet, I was going to start my post with exactly the same words! He does seem like a great character! I'm not too surprised about the fact he seems to be supporting England, given the threat of suspension by his own board! On a side-note, am I the only one who loves the fact that these sorts of stories can be written? The influence that even a member if the ground staff can have on a match shows just how varied and intriguing this game can be. Sing it with me people: I don't like cricket....!

Posted by jvrags on (December 2, 2012, 14:13 GMT)

It is a pity that so much is being made about the pitch and the curator. Does it not sound ridiculous to play a test match on a "used" wicket? This can happen only in India and it is a shame that this is being done at the behest of the captain of a team that was the number one test playing nation last year. India have gone down to number 5 in the list of test playing nations in less than a year and if they continue to do the same I would not be surprised if West Indies and Sri Lanka also overtake India before too long. Without a doubt South Africa, Australia and England represent the three best test teams in the world today and I can not see them being dislodged from the top three by any other team in the near future, thanks to their overall professional approach. As a die-hard Indian fan I can only hope that better sense will prevail over BCCI and Dhoni.

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 14:01 GMT)

Does this man have a facebook account. He would get thousands of likes. Appreciate his honesty and courarge to stand against BCCI. Like he said one should win matches with skill not pitches. With favourable conditions while Pragyan and England spinners were able to exploit the conditions Ashwin could not. Kumble was able to get wickets on any pitch so was Warne, Mcgrath, Akram, Waqar, Marshall ..... Good players do not need pitches. They bowl consistently that unerring line and length.

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 13:56 GMT)

No matter what type of pitch is. India will lose again. Mark my words.

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 13:50 GMT)

dude, mukherjee chatterjee whoever this man is, he is so dumb that he is forgetting what India gets on overseas pitches, when DHONI, MS DHONI says something, you just follow, DHONI is the man ppl come out to watch, not your pitch. If DHONI wants a turner, give him that. you chatterjee banerjee whatever, you r not valued a penny standing against as good as DHONI

Posted by ashutosh.p on (December 2, 2012, 13:44 GMT)

My Team for south africa tour based on performance and condition there. A. Rahane,S. Dhawan, C. Pujara, S. Badrinath, V. Kohl (Capt), Pathiv Patel, Irfan Pathan, Rishi Dhawan, R. Ashwin, Umesh Yadav, Praveen Kumar Bench: Manoj Tiwari, Abhinav Mukund, Pervinder Awana, P. Ojha. With 3 Bowling allrounders Irfan Pathan, Rishi Dhawan and R. Ashwin go with 5 bowlers because its bowlers who win test match.

Posted by stormy16 on (December 2, 2012, 13:39 GMT)

All test matched deserve a fresh wicket and if that wicket turns out to be a square turner that is not much of a surprise - wickets in India turn square. Would be a an awful surprise if the wicket had pace and bounce. The real issue India have is how can they beat Eng? Can they handle Swan and Monty and can the Indian spinners knock over Eng. Strange predicament to be in.

Posted by unregisteredalien on (December 2, 2012, 13:35 GMT)

I'm with Nutcutlet and Edd Oliver - this groundsman sounds like an absolute champion and I salute him!

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (December 2, 2012, 13:33 GMT)

Prepare the best possible pitch for the game, not the one that you are ordered to. Try to avoid the toss being unreasonably decisive. That is a good philosophy. If the players aren't good enough to use the pitch, that is their problem, not his.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (December 2, 2012, 13:32 GMT)

@Naoufal Nazar on (December 02 2012, 12:32 PM GMT), no, but he sounds like a true cricket lover to me. As he says, if Dhoni wants to win then maybe he should look at playing better cricket than the opposition instead of asking the groundsmen to win the game for him.

Posted by bumsonseats on (December 2, 2012, 13:26 GMT)

i have no idea what goes on to prepare a wicket for any sort of cricket, but a thought in my head would be it should be not a used pitch. in england they do use, used pitches for T20 games but all other odis and 4 day cricket are in good condition, with no foot marks, scuffs,etc been non existing. mind this is country with rain on average every day.so sometimes due to that finding wicket can be much harder than india.why do you have 3 wickets is this to give the indian captain a chance to select a wicket he thinks is more to his liking. the mind boggles

Posted by dabhand on (December 2, 2012, 13:24 GMT)

@Naoufal Nazar - no he shouldn't, he should prepare test match wickets or are India worried that they cannot win unless wickets are prepared exactly how they want them - oooooppps - forgot, they can't even win when they do get what they ask for.

Posted by liaqathussain on (December 2, 2012, 13:23 GMT)

the problem here is india do not have quality spinners and england do,

a pitch that was played on 2 weeked ago isn't a big problem, 2 weeks is enough time for the pitch to recover, so don't expect it to break and crumble really,

good luck england,, wish u win the toss n pile on the run's

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 13:22 GMT)

cricket should be played on pitches of true bounce and pace.by winning at home on under prepared dust bowl turners you are taking backward steps which will not take indian cricket any where.dhoni and bcci should realise that one swallow desn't make a summer.as probir mukherjee said game should be decided by the quality of the players and not the pitch.

Posted by afs_talyarkhan on (December 2, 2012, 13:17 GMT)

Well said Mr. Mukherjee. We need more Indians like you - people with character and individuality who care more about the integrity of the sport than the kind of henchmen who only do what the boss tells them to do - this man should be given a gong by the ICC for upholding the spirit of the game in the face of harrassment by his employers. Why don't the media take up the way he is being bullied by the BCCI? This is an old distinguished servant of cricket being treated in the usual shabby corporate way the BCCI treats all those with the true interests of cricket at heart.

Posted by Dhanvanth on (December 2, 2012, 13:15 GMT)

This guy has great guts:) but i don think bcci ll allow him to prep pitch dat ll have pace and bounce! Dhoni really needs a pitch like motera to win matches otherwise he ll surely gonna lose..i m praying for some1 lyk sehwag or gamb to get sick or injured so that rahane can play. Its high time he plays for the team

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (December 2, 2012, 13:12 GMT)

While I applaud the idea of a pitch with pace and bounce-actually it is all one wants really, though in India it does not mean a replica of the Perth wicket by any means,- one post( R U 4 REAL NICK) gave me the panic signals. No,no,nooo!! Not 3 seamers, please!!! The old habits die hard but really the enforcer is not so much needed on the pitch but in the selection room.In Asia two spinners MUST play at all times Rule no.1. Rules 2,3,4 etc should say the same thing. In the background lurks the shadowy figure of Bresnan.He's the man for us,says Flower..... Yes, the man who makes the tea, Mr Flower. If Bresnan plays I'm supporting India-end of story. Seriously Monty and Swanny can take another 19 between them.

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 12:50 GMT)

I think Mukherjee is prepared to teach Dhoni what is meant by the adage: Be careful what you ask for, for you may get it....and rue the day you asked for it. Good thinking groundsman.

Posted by moBlue on (December 2, 2012, 12:50 GMT)

this article doesn't make any sense!!!

the title suggests that the track will have "pace and bounce", yet the article itself says the pitch is a used pitch which supports spin...

which one is it? ...and what on earth do you mean, george?!? you can have a track that helps one or the other, pace or spin, not both!!!

Posted by moBlue on (December 2, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

man! why do we still have these dinosaur curators?!? the skipper should get the pitch he wants, mosDef!!! ...without having some stubborn curator simply refuse to give him what he wants in terms of a home-pitch advantage! every other country in the world has a way of getting this accomplished (behind the scenes, often)... NZ even had artificial, ridiculous pitches put in when IND toured NZ last... yet we have IND curators lecturing IND players about "morality"!

Posted by jonesy2 on (December 2, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

india should win if it spins. one flukey innings from peterson has been used up, he will surely go back to looking like a tailender

Posted by CrICkeeet on (December 2, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

FUNNY things happening with d pitch in dis series. 1st match- DEATH wicket & IND won BUT DHONI not happy! 2nd match- SPIN wicket & DHONI happy BUT IND lose! 3rd match- FAST wicket &......i dont know what DHONI will say & whats gonna happened? INTERESTING!

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

Is this Mukherjee Guy from England or an England supporter...he should just do what the captain asks him to do nothing more nothing else...rofl @ his comments on Swan & Panesar enjoying the tracks"

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (December 2, 2012, 12:26 GMT)

Oh please don't write headlines like that... England will immediately pick and all-seam attack now, including Broad, and Panesar and Swann will never play again!

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 12:22 GMT)

Forget about the pitch with true bounce because if the true 60K Kolkata fans come to watch this match, India will surely win this game!

Posted by Nutcutlet on (December 2, 2012, 12:20 GMT)

I like this man, Mr Mukerjee! He is clearly his own man, dedicated to his craft & old enough to know that whilst we enjoy our allotted span, it does not do to kowtow to others who know little or nothing of your life's work, who wish to trespass on your patch, as it were. It's obvious that he loves his cricket (it would be an astounding surprise if he didn't) & knows that the preparation of a pitch for a five day Test match demands his best - a wicket that offers something to everyone, provided that the players have the skills & application to make the best of his labours. Above all, he knows that Test cricket is played for the enjoyment of an international audience, besides the home supporters; that they will approve or disapprove of the pitch & make a judgement (more-or-less informed) about it, based on the quality of the cricket played. Should his judgement prove correct, we could be about to enjoy a match that is fair to all &, just possibly, one to remember. Well done, Mr Mukerjee!

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 12:19 GMT)

I Really don't like this idea of having an used pitch for a TEST match.......I don't know which people are behind this ?! I strongly record my objection for this......Too Bad......

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 12:16 GMT)

Fair play to the 83 year old groundsman, standing up to pressure from his own state and the BCCI.

Posted by   on (December 2, 2012, 12:12 GMT)

Curator with a way with words.I think he should be asked to play in the Indian Team.He thinks making these comments would put him into limelight and it's working."Fast and Bouncy pitches"-WOW!

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (December 2, 2012, 12:09 GMT)

some pitches which are used in ranji are so dead that even players like ravindra jadeja are scoring triple hundreds .

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (December 2, 2012, 12:07 GMT)

pankaj singh got another 5 wkt haul today as rajashtan bowled punjab for 215 . this was his 3rd 5 wkt haul this season in 3matches . BUT SELCTORS WILL NOT GIVE HIM A CHANCE . THEY WILL PICK USELESS PLAYERS LIKE BHAJJI IN TEAM WHO HAS NOT PICKED WKTS FOR MORE THAN 2 YEARS .DIRTY ZONAL POLITICS IS DESTROYING INDIAN CRICKET .

Posted by vagee on (December 2, 2012, 12:05 GMT)

M.Vijay, G. Gambhir, C. Pujara, S. Tendulkar, V. Kohli, V. Sehwag, M.S. Dhoni, R. Ashwin, I.Sharma, P.Ojha, A.Dinda..... No use keeping zak in team if MSD makes him bowl only 5 overs in an innings. Rather he can give opportunity to dinda and ishant. If this do not work out this is my team for south africa tour (purely based on performance)

A. Rahane, G. Gambhir (capt), C. Pujara, S. Badrinath, V. Kohli, D.Karthick, R.Jadeja,I.Pathan, R.Ashwin, A. Dinda, Z.Khan Bench: U. Yadav, I.Sharma, P.Ojha, M.Tiwary, Smit patel (2nd wk , opening batsman)

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