India v West Indies, 2nd Test, Mumbai, 1st day November 14, 2013

Sammy's shot reflects West Indies' poor commitment

N Hunter
It is unclear what West Indies have really learned from Kolkata. Their batsmen remain distracted. Their bowlers continue to spray the ball all round. And their captain has failed to lead by example
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Empty words. That is what Darren Sammy has delivered so far not only to the fans in the West Indies, but also the general cricketing crowd. For three innings in a row this series, the West Indies batsmen have displayed an utter lack of application and a level of patience thinner than that of a toddler. To say that West Indies would be somewhere else rather than playing the farewell series for Sachin Tendulkar would not be inaccurate.

Of course, every member of the West Indies squad has said that it is a privilege to play in Tendulkar's final series. Yet if they really understood Tendulkar, they would pay their respects with a hard fight and not the limp and lame manner in which they have fought in the four days of Test cricket played so far. In the nets, Tendulkar hates a distracted bowler. For him commitment to the game has always come first.

Seventy eight, 54.1, 55.2 are the number of overs West Indies have lasted in their three innings in Kolkata and today in Mumbai. The Kolkata Test ended in three days. Already there is talk about this one, too, not lasting the distance.

No one was a bigger culprit today than Sammy. He had just played one ball, against R Ashwin. The previous delivery Narsingh Deonarine had been caught brilliantly at short gully. West Indies had already lost all their specialist batsmen except Denesh Ramdin. They had not played even 50 overs while they were yet to reach the 170-run mark. The ball was turning big. Yet Sammy slog swept Ashwin's next delivery, another turner, with a face that declared a pre-determined intent to clear the ground, except the leading edge did not even cross the 30-yard circle. A member of the West Indies management clearly showed his frustration at the selection of the captain's shot.

What really was Sammy thinking? Did he even consider playing the situation? What happened to his statement after the Kolkata defeat about learning from the pair of Rohit Sharma and Ashwin, whose record double-century partnership, had punctured West Indies' spirits decisively.

Sammy's position in the team had already been questioned going into the match. Michael Holding, former West Indies fast bowler, speaking on ESPNcricinfo's Match Point was categorical in saying Sammy did not deserve to hold a place in the team as an allrounder. According to Holding, Sammy could not adapt to the demands of a Test batsman while as a bowler he was mediocre. Just being a cheerleader, Holding pointed out, was not helping West Indies win matches.

To defend himself Sammy might send this retort to Holding: he averages 25.4 when he comes in to bat with West Indies five down or more for less than 200 runs. This is more than his career average of 21.60. His solitary Test century and three of his four half-centuries have come in these innings. But ridiculous shot selections like today and in Kolkata just diminish the importance of those numbers.

Regardless, the question about his worth in the Test team will not die down. Sammy is an impressive leader in the shorter formats where his players like to express themselves in the manner they like - be aggressive. Sammy himself contributes in all three departments with influential performances, but in the Tests he does not have the same kind of respect, the same level of influence that he can extract the best out of his players.

West Indies' last six wickets have averaged 11.38 in this series - the lowest they have averaged for their last six wickets in any series in Tests. Sadly, all the main batsmen for West Indies, men who have the ability to have an impact on the match, have failed miserably.

Chris Gayle is playing his 99th Test. Sadly, he has sleepwalked so far on this tour. Darren Bravo once again got the start but threw it away with hanging his bat to a turning away delivery against Ashwin.

Marlon Samuels was made to look like he was walking over a bed of hot coal by Mohammed Shami today. In Kolkata it was the reverse swing that Samuels found hard to negotiate. On a hard Wankhede pitch, Samuels was at large trying hard to figure out which way Shami was moving the ball. In the end, Samuels charged two successive balls but it only turned out to be a hit-and-miss exercise.

Shivnarine Chanderpaul's 150th Test was ruined as he failed to counter the away swing and seam movement that Bhuvneshwar Kumar got off the pitch and in the air. Chanderpaul in the end was squared up and edged to slips.

Ramdin can watch himself in the mirror and get embarrassed at the moment he decided to unfurl the piece of paper on which was scribbled in capital letters: " "YEH, VIV, TALK NAH."" after scoring a century in the Edgbaston Test against England in 2011. Ramdin apologised immediately to Richards, who had been critical of the Trinidadian for being inconsistent. Ramdin has just one century after that match, against Bangladesh.

Even the tailend pair of Tino Best and Shane Shillingford today played irresponsibly to get out when they had seen Ashwin, India's No. 8, score a match-turning century.

It is unclear what West Indies have really learned from Kolkata. Their batsmen remain distracted. Their bowlers continue to spray the ball all round. Their captain is under pressure. To make matters worse, West Indies do not have a batting coach after Toby Radford joined Glamorgan recently.

Sammy and West Indies might point out that they have not played Test cricket after March. But it's the same case with India. So clearly it is a question of adapting in the mind and being ready than trying to look for reasons. After their victory in the World T20 and Test victories against New Zealand (home), Bangladesh (away) and Zimbabwe (home), there has been talk about West Indies, now No. 6 on the ICC Test rankings, being on the road to recovery. But have West Indies really turned the corner?

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  • on November 14, 2013, 19:33 GMT

    I am disappointed that the WI selectors have not been able to address talent drain. I have not seen a single tall fast bowler whereas the bowlers of yester years sans marshall were all 6'3"+with walh and ambrose upwards of 6'5". This line-up has bowlers who bowl fast, but dont get the disconcerting bounce or have the menace value. Until they fix their bowling (given that they now have good spinners), Wi cannot hope to compete. And I would imagine that they should be really practicing hard against shillin.. to get the practice against spinners

  • SAMMOS on November 16, 2013, 17:57 GMT

    WI selectors are doing the same things over and over and are expecting different results.Team selection leaves a lot to be desired and the coach,manager and selectors appear to be clueless.Drastic changes need to be made at every level and non performing personnel need to be axed,sending the signal that only excellence would be accepted.Viv tried to instill this culture in his short stint as coach but he was quickly replaced.Sammy and Ramdin need to go.Permaul and Deonarine are not quality spinners.Changes are needed to save our cricket from total demise.It is perilously close to that state as we speak!

  • on November 15, 2013, 4:05 GMT

    The demeanor of Sammy clearly show that he is not Captain material. On field he does not exert influence on other players, lacking in clear approach and short of tactical thinking. Holding is absolutely right. When you are 5 or so down, you do not expect captain to play such a shot. Responsibility is not there in him, and his bowling is not test match material. Time WI looked for a better captain. Hope Sammy will redeem in the second innings

  • himanshu.team on November 15, 2013, 3:04 GMT

    A lot has been said about WI approach to this test match. However, they were never really known for their patience, barring Chanders. Fact of the matter is that there are four top team in tests today: SA, England, India and Australia. After these SL play well in their own backyard. Rest are all pretty much below average test playing teams. So when WI came here, they could not adapt to good swing or spin bowling. their bowlers did give them a session in Kolkata, but the batsmen clearly are not good enough. The shot selection is only a matter of limited defensive abilities against quality bowling. I am afraid if it was any other team, except SA, Australia or England, the outcome would have been the same. But then again, how much can the four of us play against one another? Somewhere down the line rest of the teams have to rise up to the challenge. I am afraid that is not happening at the moment and if there is no brilliance shown by WI bowlers, we may again have a 3-day test.

  • on November 15, 2013, 2:45 GMT

    Blaim the WI selectors too....they strip Sammy of the ODI captaincy instead of the Test captaincy.

    Sarwan made a ODI 100 vs Zim but was dropped from the next series.

  • on November 15, 2013, 2:08 GMT

    Indian fans can comment whatever they like. Please remember, This is just a series arranged just to boost the Indians record and give a fitting farewell to Sachin. If Indians can influence to ask WI to come for a tour, how tough it is for them to ask them to drop Roach and Rampaul, proabably the best pair after Steyn/Morkel, Anderson/Broad? Please refrain from using words such as "pathetic". To give you a statistic about great Indian bowlers, Ashwin and Ojha have 208 wickets together and 200 of them have come in India. and they forget bowling when they fly over Indian skies.

  • CapeKolpak on November 15, 2013, 0:41 GMT

    Same story for the Windies lack of discipline, Sammy needs to go and the batters need to show some grit. Powell and Bravo have showed class but lack the experience to go on to get big scores WI XI: Gayle, Powell, K.Edwards, Bravo, Chanderpaul, Samuels, Ramdin, Narine, Best, Shillingford, Roach

  • maddy20 on November 14, 2013, 23:50 GMT

    @Ranjit_sourav An utterly disgraceful comment. How can you say this about the great man? For 24 years he did not achieve what he did due to favors granted by other nations. He did it through hardwork, longevity and perseverance. WI came here with 5 batsmen, and played as if they are playing a T20! NO wonder they are always ranked in the bottom half, atleast for the past 2 decades or so. Their bowling is not great either. Barring shillingford, no other bowler looked threatening. Things would have been better for them had they picked Narine. Ramdin, is a joke as well. I mean how did he even make it to the side with such a bad temperament? Gayle, Sammy, Powell are all guilty of throwing away their wickets to rash strokes.

  • on November 14, 2013, 23:46 GMT

    after i saw sammy's dismissal i sat and looked and looked i wonder what in the world was he thinking. WEST INDIES SELECTORS too many talent are being ignored, kraigg brathwaite, asad fudadin nikita miller miguel cummins delorn johnson :( u have chadwick walton omg so many talent in the windies side johnathan carter leon johnson they are all in form ashely nurse too he is in form as well whats wrong with u guys

  • Alexk400 on November 14, 2013, 23:27 GMT

    I know sammy is not at fault with that shot. I would have done the same..i probably hit it on the ground not to to hit out of the park. Aggressive but risk free one thing , careless throw away shot is bad. But he disgusted with his team mates not saving his captaincy. :)

  • on November 14, 2013, 19:33 GMT

    I am disappointed that the WI selectors have not been able to address talent drain. I have not seen a single tall fast bowler whereas the bowlers of yester years sans marshall were all 6'3"+with walh and ambrose upwards of 6'5". This line-up has bowlers who bowl fast, but dont get the disconcerting bounce or have the menace value. Until they fix their bowling (given that they now have good spinners), Wi cannot hope to compete. And I would imagine that they should be really practicing hard against shillin.. to get the practice against spinners

  • SAMMOS on November 16, 2013, 17:57 GMT

    WI selectors are doing the same things over and over and are expecting different results.Team selection leaves a lot to be desired and the coach,manager and selectors appear to be clueless.Drastic changes need to be made at every level and non performing personnel need to be axed,sending the signal that only excellence would be accepted.Viv tried to instill this culture in his short stint as coach but he was quickly replaced.Sammy and Ramdin need to go.Permaul and Deonarine are not quality spinners.Changes are needed to save our cricket from total demise.It is perilously close to that state as we speak!

  • on November 15, 2013, 4:05 GMT

    The demeanor of Sammy clearly show that he is not Captain material. On field he does not exert influence on other players, lacking in clear approach and short of tactical thinking. Holding is absolutely right. When you are 5 or so down, you do not expect captain to play such a shot. Responsibility is not there in him, and his bowling is not test match material. Time WI looked for a better captain. Hope Sammy will redeem in the second innings

  • himanshu.team on November 15, 2013, 3:04 GMT

    A lot has been said about WI approach to this test match. However, they were never really known for their patience, barring Chanders. Fact of the matter is that there are four top team in tests today: SA, England, India and Australia. After these SL play well in their own backyard. Rest are all pretty much below average test playing teams. So when WI came here, they could not adapt to good swing or spin bowling. their bowlers did give them a session in Kolkata, but the batsmen clearly are not good enough. The shot selection is only a matter of limited defensive abilities against quality bowling. I am afraid if it was any other team, except SA, Australia or England, the outcome would have been the same. But then again, how much can the four of us play against one another? Somewhere down the line rest of the teams have to rise up to the challenge. I am afraid that is not happening at the moment and if there is no brilliance shown by WI bowlers, we may again have a 3-day test.

  • on November 15, 2013, 2:45 GMT

    Blaim the WI selectors too....they strip Sammy of the ODI captaincy instead of the Test captaincy.

    Sarwan made a ODI 100 vs Zim but was dropped from the next series.

  • on November 15, 2013, 2:08 GMT

    Indian fans can comment whatever they like. Please remember, This is just a series arranged just to boost the Indians record and give a fitting farewell to Sachin. If Indians can influence to ask WI to come for a tour, how tough it is for them to ask them to drop Roach and Rampaul, proabably the best pair after Steyn/Morkel, Anderson/Broad? Please refrain from using words such as "pathetic". To give you a statistic about great Indian bowlers, Ashwin and Ojha have 208 wickets together and 200 of them have come in India. and they forget bowling when they fly over Indian skies.

  • CapeKolpak on November 15, 2013, 0:41 GMT

    Same story for the Windies lack of discipline, Sammy needs to go and the batters need to show some grit. Powell and Bravo have showed class but lack the experience to go on to get big scores WI XI: Gayle, Powell, K.Edwards, Bravo, Chanderpaul, Samuels, Ramdin, Narine, Best, Shillingford, Roach

  • maddy20 on November 14, 2013, 23:50 GMT

    @Ranjit_sourav An utterly disgraceful comment. How can you say this about the great man? For 24 years he did not achieve what he did due to favors granted by other nations. He did it through hardwork, longevity and perseverance. WI came here with 5 batsmen, and played as if they are playing a T20! NO wonder they are always ranked in the bottom half, atleast for the past 2 decades or so. Their bowling is not great either. Barring shillingford, no other bowler looked threatening. Things would have been better for them had they picked Narine. Ramdin, is a joke as well. I mean how did he even make it to the side with such a bad temperament? Gayle, Sammy, Powell are all guilty of throwing away their wickets to rash strokes.

  • on November 14, 2013, 23:46 GMT

    after i saw sammy's dismissal i sat and looked and looked i wonder what in the world was he thinking. WEST INDIES SELECTORS too many talent are being ignored, kraigg brathwaite, asad fudadin nikita miller miguel cummins delorn johnson :( u have chadwick walton omg so many talent in the windies side johnathan carter leon johnson they are all in form ashely nurse too he is in form as well whats wrong with u guys

  • Alexk400 on November 14, 2013, 23:27 GMT

    I know sammy is not at fault with that shot. I would have done the same..i probably hit it on the ground not to to hit out of the park. Aggressive but risk free one thing , careless throw away shot is bad. But he disgusted with his team mates not saving his captaincy. :)

  • warneford on November 14, 2013, 23:16 GMT

    I just cant fathom any one justifying Sammys place on the team. Sammy is an abject failure. This team needs restructuring. Gayle should not be playing test cricket. Ramdin should be gone. Best is a total waste. Why is Holder sitting the west indies, can Beaton learn any thing watching Best bowl? If we are looking for an all rounder then where is Andre Russel? Why cant Narine bowl in tests again? Please repeat. Where is Kirk Edwards? In the absence of a captain why cant Kirk or Powel who are being groomed not take over? Simmonds is a glove man who makes runs, so is Charles and Walton.What about them? Did I suggest Braithwaite at the top with Powell? I forgot.It makes no more sense for me to call for the departure of the coach and the captain.No one is listening.

  • on November 14, 2013, 23:09 GMT

    WI certainly lacks players batsmen and bowlers with any temperament to grind it out. Cotrell showed what a disaster he is not by his bowling but his attitude when he was on debut like he did not want to be there and bowling 10-15mph slower than what he was earlier. Selectors need to choice players who want to play TEST cricket not players like Cotrell. Dwayne Bravo is unsuited for test cricket, he has talent but his body cannot handle stress of test cricket as was seen in his earlier career with frequent injuries. Braithwaite not ready yet, he should be sent on tour not to start but play warm up games. He is not a good player of swing but will learn, if he gets to face quality swing bowling consistently. I think Jason Holder would have been great fit for India bowls line and length decent yorker and get a steep bounce. Dont understand why he only selected for odi team. WI has several years b4 they can be competitive in test cricket. First step is getting rid of Coach and selectors

  • Batmanindallas on November 14, 2013, 21:31 GMT

    Lot of these guys are misfits for a test-Tino is not best, Sammy and Gayle there is no force behind it anymore. He any way does not care for test and call it quits. Make a Marlon Samuels the captain and get younger players in-and hopefully things will turn around or maybe test cricket is not their thing anymore

  • devil_in_details on November 14, 2013, 19:54 GMT

    The Windies do look distracted as the author says but what could be the possible reason? There is no 20-20 league happening currently in the world as far as I know so its not as if they are missing a payday. They have always complained that they do not get enough matches against the top four nations. So when they do get a series, however contrived it may be, they should still perform their best. There is also an added incentive that a good performance here can bring them a bigger payday in the next IPL because India loves good batsmen, period. Whats more from the sporadic brilliance they show in the crease it is evident they have the talent and yet the whole batting line up seems so much less than the sum of its parts.

  • doubtingthomas on November 14, 2013, 19:51 GMT

    This is what we get after the master stroke from BCCI. We could've enjoyed some competitive cricket against South Africa, but for obvious reasons, have to watch this mockery of a series instead. I think even Sachin, being a sportsman, would prefer a different farewell than this one.

  • Mayfield on November 14, 2013, 19:49 GMT

    Michael Holding is 100% correct in his assessment. Sammy, Gibson, the selectors and management cannot justify Sammy's place in the team and if this continues, they all should be replaced. Sammy repeats the talking points, but sadly cannot cannot back it up with action. As for Gayle, I never could understand how you could bat with little foot movement. He along with Best and Ramding should be dropped from the team. It is time that Samuels with all the god given talent he has, start scoring consistently and put up big scores. Dwayne Bravo should not be made captain of the team. He is anothe player that flattered to deceive and his skills have eroded considerably. He along with Gayle should continue w/2020. Team should be picked from: Powell,Brathwaite,Bravo,Samuels,Shiv,Edwards,Deonarine,Fudadin,Walton,J.Carter, Shilli,Narine,Roach,Gabriel,Cummins,D.Johnson,Holder and Cotterel. Roach along with two others should make up the fast bowling unit.

  • Ranjit_sourav on November 14, 2013, 19:34 GMT

    Seeing this series and their performances till now,I would say BCCI might have told Windies that they will pay more than what WICB paying them, If they make Sachin's farewell series a fruitful one for the entire nation. Being an Indian, I am disappointed on this series, may be Bangladesh would be a better choice than Windies.

  • Riddymon on November 14, 2013, 19:20 GMT

    It's amazing...after a couple matches of misplaced shots, everyone wants Sammy's head again. I don't know why people expect miracles from this guy...this is how he he has always played, currently plays and always will play. Why are we surprised? He's always been a stroke maker that bats at around 7-9 and looks for the big shots. His bowling is more than useful...no he's not a huge wicket taker but he is a container...that's been his role all this time and he does it really well. My question is how do you expect him to play better when he's coming in under pressure with no runs on the board, he's jus gonna revert to his natural style which is to make runs quickly. He'll either look bad and get out quickly or he'll make quick runs and be called a slogger. i dare you to find someone that'll take his place and do better because ALL of the all-rounders aren't up to it right now...let's be honest.

  • PACERONE on November 14, 2013, 19:17 GMT

    It was known from day one that Sammy was not a test all rounder.we know that the W.I selectors are of the very worst in the game.We have young eager fast bowlers who get wicket and can move the ball.Cummings and Brathwaithe from Barbados,Johnson from the Windwards and Richardson from Trinidad come to mind.Yet we keep going with bowlers who continually fail the test.Miller has shown for Jamaica that he is willing to put his head down and bat and his bowling would of been a great foil for Shillingford.I hope that changes are made for NZ.Craig Brathwaithe should be opening with Powell and Gayle moved down the order.

  • on November 14, 2013, 19:06 GMT

    This is what happens when you play with 10 players and a captain.

  • on November 14, 2013, 19:06 GMT

    It's nothing to do with a lack of patience. WI just don't produce quality batsmen anymore. It's not like there are hordes of players averaging 45+ in their first class cricket. On a difficult pitch where the ball is turning and bouncing, it takes skill to survive. If you don't have the skilled defensive technique, then the best option for you is to hit out or slog. Sammy did exactly the right thing.

  • Cpt.Meanster on November 14, 2013, 18:34 GMT

    Living in Canada, I have many West Indian friends who simply cannot fathom such a pathetic performance from their test team. I always used to joke with them that if WI do not improve their test performance, then they could become the next Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. I need to correct my words now. WI are even more WORSE than Bangladesh and Zimbabwe and DO NOT deserve to play test cricket. Bangladesh at least beat NZ and Zimbabwe are not making scores of 250-300 in tests. WI are incapable of doing neither. A poor captain and his team don't deserve any kind words. India should finish this game in 3 days yet again.

  • on November 14, 2013, 18:34 GMT

    Oh boy ... captain plays the irresponsible shot ... reminds me of Kapil Dev against England in Delhi playing a shot and getting out and from nowhere England won a match that was petering into a draw .... yeah captain has to be more responsible. Maybe Clive Lloyd needs to talk to this WI team and make them sit through some film of yesteryears where they ruled the roost.

  • blink182alex on November 14, 2013, 18:30 GMT

    Seriously poor by the Windies. Apart from a couple they seem to show no fight, their body language is poor. It seems they would rather be lying on the beach or playing a T20 than giving their all in a test match.

    Wonder what some of the players were thinking when Sammy was walking off. He is simply not good enough to get into their best 11. They have enough fast bowling resources that it's embarrassing when he is trying to justify his place in the side by opening the bowling at 75mph, and there are guys like Rampual, Roach and Holder who have to miss out at times because Sammy is in-front of them.

  • on November 14, 2013, 18:15 GMT

    West Indies batsmen categorically fail to apply themselves to the preeminent format of the Game. One wonders if it difficult to switch the mindset from T20 to Test, where patience, application and a concerted game plan must be followed.

    Samuels looked totally confused and befuddled. It was shocking and embarrassing to see him slashing, swiping and heaving like a number-10 slogger aiming for the stands.

    Sammy is not a Test player, not even close, and WI selectors must not repeat the mistake of picking him ever again for Tests. There must be an up-and-coming youngster somewhere on those sunny islands to replace him.

    Chanderpaul is the only West Indian batsman who adopts the right approach to the Test cricket, notwithstanding his short stay at the crease today.

    The road to recovery, sadly, remains a distant mirage for the West Indies!

  • on November 14, 2013, 17:46 GMT

    Come home boys,come home,before you embarrass yourselves and your fans any further.

  • amitdashore on November 14, 2013, 17:39 GMT

    Sammy's batting is like of Dhoni couple of years ago.. too useful lower order batsman in T20 n ODIs but always a failure in tests! Dhoni has improved significantly since captaincy n with him the whole meaning of batting attitude in Indian team has changed for good.. same can be said for Sammy, that whole meaning of batting attitude has been changed under his captaincy, but alas for worse!

  • Sensational_Smit on November 14, 2013, 17:10 GMT

    Folks, sammy doesnt deserve to be in this team as a batter, bowler and certainly not their skipper. He is a bit n piece player good for t20...only

  • nafzak on November 14, 2013, 17:10 GMT

    Ever since their failed ODI World Cup performances in Bangladesh & Sri Lanka, I have been saying that under Gibson/Sammy leadership, WI batsmen play ODis and Test Matches as if they are all T/20 matches. The only exception being Chanderpaul. Almost always when Sammy gets out, one can expect to see the following in Cricinfo ball by ball commentary: "Oh my Sammy, what have you done." Holding was right when he said that "Pollard is not a cricketer". Well, it would not be a stretch to say the same for many on this WI team. Gayle as a senior member of the team cannot mold or lift the younger members of the team when he is himself not fully committed. Sammy I have come to believe is a nice guy and says all the right things, but he just does not walk the talk. Sad, but WICB coaches and selectors have all failed when guys like Narine and Pollard cannot move up from T/20 or ODIs and when guys like Bharat, Santokie and Fuadin will not even get a sniff. Breado

  • Fan_of_test_cricket on November 14, 2013, 17:07 GMT

    Hit the nail right on the head. After watching that shot from Sammy, I could hardly believe he is the captain of WI. He should have shown a little responsibility as a captain at least, if not as a batsman. Sad days for the West Indies. Sammy seems like a part time bowler and a part time batsman. As for his remarks after the Kolkata test, they are laughable, to say the least. If this is the team Sammy believes to be equal one-on-one to the Indian team, he needs to wake up. WIndies needs to take some inspiration from Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.

  • indianzen on November 14, 2013, 17:02 GMT

    There is no plan and execution I would say. WI has got some good phase men and decent spinners.. Just that they could not put them all up together...

  • on November 14, 2013, 17:02 GMT

    Please! do not persecute Sammy, he is not responsible for being in that position. Can we examine our selectors? are they presenting the correct teams? How about the adminstration? are they doing enough to develop players? I think WI cricket goes way beyound the play field.

  • A-Gunnie on November 14, 2013, 17:02 GMT

    It has always been this way for the big man.....he was a part-timer in this format and still is.We do not have test players other than three guys on the team..Chanders,Samuels and Powel.

  • SamRoy on November 14, 2013, 16:46 GMT

    Truth is if WI organizes a 5 match test series with SA or even England they have a very good chance of losing 4-0 or 5-0 and most of them innings losses. Their pace bowlers don't have much skill even though they have plenty of pace; their batsman except Chanderpaul don't have required patience. And most surprisingly they never ever pick the player who deserves a test call up --- Nikita Miller. He is at least the second best spinner in the WI. Whom do they pick -- Permaul, who is no threat to the Indians (or any quality player of spin).

  • Unmesh_cric on November 14, 2013, 16:36 GMT

    I am sorry to say this, but looking at Sammy's batting, sometimes he just seems like a glorified tail-ender. The only plus point about Sammy is his attitude and big heart. But I am not sure he is a Test match material. He can still contribute in limited overs cricket though.

  • Unmesh_cric on November 14, 2013, 16:36 GMT

    I am sorry to say this, but looking at Sammy's batting, sometimes he just seems like a glorified tail-ender. The only plus point about Sammy is his attitude and big heart. But I am not sure he is a Test match material. He can still contribute in limited overs cricket though.

  • SamRoy on November 14, 2013, 16:46 GMT

    Truth is if WI organizes a 5 match test series with SA or even England they have a very good chance of losing 4-0 or 5-0 and most of them innings losses. Their pace bowlers don't have much skill even though they have plenty of pace; their batsman except Chanderpaul don't have required patience. And most surprisingly they never ever pick the player who deserves a test call up --- Nikita Miller. He is at least the second best spinner in the WI. Whom do they pick -- Permaul, who is no threat to the Indians (or any quality player of spin).

  • A-Gunnie on November 14, 2013, 17:02 GMT

    It has always been this way for the big man.....he was a part-timer in this format and still is.We do not have test players other than three guys on the team..Chanders,Samuels and Powel.

  • on November 14, 2013, 17:02 GMT

    Please! do not persecute Sammy, he is not responsible for being in that position. Can we examine our selectors? are they presenting the correct teams? How about the adminstration? are they doing enough to develop players? I think WI cricket goes way beyound the play field.

  • indianzen on November 14, 2013, 17:02 GMT

    There is no plan and execution I would say. WI has got some good phase men and decent spinners.. Just that they could not put them all up together...

  • Fan_of_test_cricket on November 14, 2013, 17:07 GMT

    Hit the nail right on the head. After watching that shot from Sammy, I could hardly believe he is the captain of WI. He should have shown a little responsibility as a captain at least, if not as a batsman. Sad days for the West Indies. Sammy seems like a part time bowler and a part time batsman. As for his remarks after the Kolkata test, they are laughable, to say the least. If this is the team Sammy believes to be equal one-on-one to the Indian team, he needs to wake up. WIndies needs to take some inspiration from Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.

  • nafzak on November 14, 2013, 17:10 GMT

    Ever since their failed ODI World Cup performances in Bangladesh & Sri Lanka, I have been saying that under Gibson/Sammy leadership, WI batsmen play ODis and Test Matches as if they are all T/20 matches. The only exception being Chanderpaul. Almost always when Sammy gets out, one can expect to see the following in Cricinfo ball by ball commentary: "Oh my Sammy, what have you done." Holding was right when he said that "Pollard is not a cricketer". Well, it would not be a stretch to say the same for many on this WI team. Gayle as a senior member of the team cannot mold or lift the younger members of the team when he is himself not fully committed. Sammy I have come to believe is a nice guy and says all the right things, but he just does not walk the talk. Sad, but WICB coaches and selectors have all failed when guys like Narine and Pollard cannot move up from T/20 or ODIs and when guys like Bharat, Santokie and Fuadin will not even get a sniff. Breado

  • Sensational_Smit on November 14, 2013, 17:10 GMT

    Folks, sammy doesnt deserve to be in this team as a batter, bowler and certainly not their skipper. He is a bit n piece player good for t20...only

  • amitdashore on November 14, 2013, 17:39 GMT

    Sammy's batting is like of Dhoni couple of years ago.. too useful lower order batsman in T20 n ODIs but always a failure in tests! Dhoni has improved significantly since captaincy n with him the whole meaning of batting attitude in Indian team has changed for good.. same can be said for Sammy, that whole meaning of batting attitude has been changed under his captaincy, but alas for worse!

  • on November 14, 2013, 17:46 GMT

    Come home boys,come home,before you embarrass yourselves and your fans any further.