October 13, 2009

Stupidity of staggering proportions

After a recent and fairly commendable upturn in fortunes, once again Pakistan shoots itself and watches bemused as the world sniggers
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The absolute stupidity of this whole situation is staggering. An Indian journalist writes a particularly incendiary report after Pakistan's semi-final loss to New Zealand in the Champions Trophy, claiming there was more to the defeat than meets the eye. The report was immediately shot down by the ICC and soon after by the newspaper itself.

But the germ had been planted. Pakistan, match-fixing, and so a chain of events, even before the tournament was over, was becoming increasingly predictable: the report would be picked up by Pakistan's hyperactive media, big on headlines and poor on detail, some political personalities would get involved, hearings would be called, intrigue would be added, a captain already averse to precisely this would decide he had had enough. Wham, bam, thank you, latest controversy dealt with, let's move on to another.

To the letter, this is what has happened. The chairman of the National Assembly's standing committee on sports, Jamshed Dasti, first told every TV channel and news agency that he thought the matches were fixed and promised a committee hearing and investigation into it. The next day he denied ever making any such allegation, claiming instead that people in general were saying so. At the hearing he told Younis Khan he had not been called in to announce his resignation. After the hearing, Dasti told TV channels that, thankfully, the allegations of match-fixing were totally unfounded. The stupidity of it all is much too much to bear. It will not be surprising if it doesn't happen, but it won't be right either if Dasti's role in all this is not held to account. And now many will make the lazy assumption, pointing to Younis' previous with captaincy, his ethnicity, and tut-tut and say that he has done "a Younis", that he is emotional, temperamental and all that. He shouldn't have resigned, or done so in this way. All points have merit but the main point will be missed. It cannot be a good thing to have led your country to the World Twenty20 title and the semi-finals of the Champions Trophy - the only country, by the way, to have reached the last four in both tournaments - and still have your own countrymen suspect you of match-fixing, to ask you, to tell you that it is so. And these are not just allegations of factions in teams, or about your own performances: these are serious allegations against your person and integrity. Rightly, Younis should not have to put up with this pathetic nonsense, stuff that was barely credible to start with. Many captains in the past have had to put up with it and it is something they should not have had to put up with. A whole nation, a people, a culture, stands to be blamed.

Younis should not have to put up with this pathetic nonsense. Many captains in the past have had to put up with it and it is something they should not have had to put up with. A whole nation, a people, a culture, stands to be blamed

This being Pakistan, though, it cannot be as simple - or not - as just that. To the stupidity we must add the conspiracy and intrigue. So comes in the name of Shahid Afridi, vice-captain in ODIs and Twenty20 captain. The PCB chairman, Ijaz Butt, met Afridi a few days ago in Lahore. On the agenda, it has been rumoured, was the topic of the ODI leadership, though Afridi and Butt denied it. Butt said later he only wanted to discuss the Champions Trophy performances with Afridi. This is fine, except the natural person to do that with would be the captain, would it not?

In fact, those close to Younis are keen to point out Afridi's angling for the post, though in fairness Afridi has always publicly and regularly backed his captain - and has performed as such to prove it. Younis' fractured finger and poor form further complicate matters, and the PCB's dithering on his inclusion for the New Zealand series is precisely the kind of incompetence that wasn't needed. Now all kinds of things are flying around: the team's Punjab lobby has played its hand, Younis has done it as part of a bigger plan, Afridi has meddled; the truth may be everywhere and nowhere but mess is everywhere.

After a recent and fairly commendable upturn in fortunes, once again Pakistan shoots itself and watches bemused as the world sniggers. This year, which has seen international cricket taken away from the country for the forseeable future, has also seen success on the field and off it, with the unearthing of some exciting new batting and bowling talent. Younis' captaincy and his side have been much admired globally for again becoming compelling to watch; to most observers, Younis was the most fascinating personality at the Champions Trophy - endearingly honest, open and refreshing. Broadly speaking, he was thought to be a good, calming influence on the side. That message seems not to have reached Pakistan.

Osman Samiuddin is Pakistan editor of Cricinfo

Comments have now been closed for this article

  • Mohammad_Imran on October 16, 2009, 20:15 GMT

    Dear Osman, I agree that Younis Khan's resignation decision may have been spurred on by the match-fixing media hype (mostly Indian media). But, if you look at Younis Khan's performance in the Champions Trophy, he was the lowest run scorer for Pakistan. So, the fact is that he is not in good form, and in all honesty, is not well suited to the one-day game. He might be a burden for the Pakistan team at the crucial # 3 spot. He does have some technical flaws in playing run-scoring shots, but he is a great asset for Pakistan in the Test matches (for his excellent temperament).

    I believe Pakistan won the T20 WC not so much because of Younis' captaincy, but more because of individual talent. I think a captain needs to lead from the front, like Inzamam or Imran Khan. Younis is a great individual no doubt, but I think Shahid Afridi will be a better captain for Pakistan's ODI and T20 side, because he is a natural leader and is very active on the field (which was seen in CT).

  • Jawad_Ali on October 16, 2009, 20:09 GMT

    younis is a rare kind in an age...

    1. where batsmen average around 40 and he is going further down from 33.

    2. where a good strike rate is considered around 80 or 90. His is about 76.

    3. In 2009 his bating average is 24.88 in 16 matches. He has ODI avergae of 15 against Aussies & 25 against RSA... which means he has boosted his average against less competitive teams.

    4. He managed to score his first century against Hong Kong after about 100 innings period spanning over 4 years. The remaing 5 centuries are against india, england and west indies.

    5. His best ODI averages are against Kenya 123, Hong Kong 105 and Zimbabwe 47.

    6. He scored 5 out of 6 centuries on dead asian pitches.

    7. As a captain he almost loose two games after each win.

    8. He has not led by example and does not enjoy the support of his team.

    9. He is man of the match 13 times in 188 innings (3 against Zimbabwe & another against kenya).

    It would be stupidity to compare him with some other captains. right Osman?

  • CricFan24 on October 16, 2009, 5:02 GMT

    I didnt even read the article, just the title and summary- couldnt agree more.

  • ayazali on October 15, 2009, 12:56 GMT

    The corrupt politicians are never summoned in the National Assembly, then why the cricketers are? That's Ridiculous!

  • Subra on October 15, 2009, 8:11 GMT

    Dear Osman You hit the nail on the head - but it should have been on the head of the politicians and those who shout 'corruption' whenever Pakistan loses. Younous was decent enough to play - even with a finger injury, because if he did not play there would be other accusations against him. Play they accuse him, don't play also they will accuse him, but nobody will say that before the match - always after the match because hindsight is the only sight they have. Younus, a decent cricketer (in every sense of the word) must have had it - otherwise he would not want to give up the captaincy. I have never met him, but judging from the way he reacts, he is proud to a Pakistani and to captain Pakistan - but he is also a Proud man and can only stomach so much nonsense. If he has to be summoned, they must have some doubts. That is not fair, to a man who has given 100% all his life to Pakistan cricket. These fairweather politicians be replaced Siva from Singapore

  • Mujeeb.ur.Rahman on October 15, 2009, 7:33 GMT

    Come on Younus, the whole nation is with you. Stand erect and fight but what you did was an extreme. You are the best captain Pakistan has ever had after the previous Khan (Imran).

  • Pathiyal on October 15, 2009, 6:19 GMT

    I have understood that Younus is one of the very few gentlemen ever played for Pakistan. the allegations against him seems to have been cooked up. Cricket has remained so far as an inspiring game (inspite of corruptions and allegations) just because of a very few inspiring players, and undoubtedly Younus is one. Although Imran remains the best captain ever for Pak, Younus was different in his approach. He is caring and gentle and has shown his class on the field. Whenever he played aggressive innings against my country, I just watched with a wry smile and that was out of my fondness for him. My suggestion for him is: "Younus, you move forward. You still have more heights to achieve. Its just a testing time of your life but soon you will see the world on your side" - Mark my words.

  • solomonlaw on October 15, 2009, 4:00 GMT

    The whole mess is a very sorry state of affairs. Unfortunately in most countries, the number one sport of choice is always politicised and used for the gain of other than those playing it. We have similar issues in NZ with rugby but thankfully our country does not share the same level of instability. With any allegation firstly you must have some evidence that the rules have been broken and suspicion because someone drops and easy catch (which happens in at least every second game) is simply not sufficient. HSKADRI is right, on the day they were outplayed by a committed NZ side. Also at the time Elliot was dropped he was plodding along slowly and doesnt have much of a history of big hitting, so how could Younis have predicted what elliot was to do in the next few overs. Simple answer was he couldnt.

  • James35 on October 15, 2009, 1:48 GMT

    C'mon. You are taking this too seriously. Nobody takes resignation from a Pakistani captain seriously. Everybody knows that he'll take back the resignation after meeting with the PCB chairman or after getting a call from the President. You are from Pakistan, you should know how things work there. I'd say, just chill and enjoy the show.

  • pak-united on October 14, 2009, 22:43 GMT

    Why isn't anyone questioning the "retracted" words of the writer who is the origin of this catastrophe? I am yet to come across that "journalist" to be criticized. Should that person not be terminated from his responsibilities? How about the paper publicly apologizes to the Pakistani cricketers for the ill information that have spread in the cricket world? As far as I know that writer was representing that paper, any employer at the end of the day takes the blame for such mishaps, at least in civilized societies they do. Moreoever what are politicians doing in sports events, what is the PCB for, isn't conflict resoluation concerning cricket affairs THEIR job? How about the politicians focus on what they NEED to, and that is to look after the country, not getting entangled in issues as such. As a cricket fan, I don't think Younis Khan should resign, because Pakistan needs him as a leader, and who knows maybe thats what the "respected" writer wanted too.

  • Mohammad_Imran on October 16, 2009, 20:15 GMT

    Dear Osman, I agree that Younis Khan's resignation decision may have been spurred on by the match-fixing media hype (mostly Indian media). But, if you look at Younis Khan's performance in the Champions Trophy, he was the lowest run scorer for Pakistan. So, the fact is that he is not in good form, and in all honesty, is not well suited to the one-day game. He might be a burden for the Pakistan team at the crucial # 3 spot. He does have some technical flaws in playing run-scoring shots, but he is a great asset for Pakistan in the Test matches (for his excellent temperament).

    I believe Pakistan won the T20 WC not so much because of Younis' captaincy, but more because of individual talent. I think a captain needs to lead from the front, like Inzamam or Imran Khan. Younis is a great individual no doubt, but I think Shahid Afridi will be a better captain for Pakistan's ODI and T20 side, because he is a natural leader and is very active on the field (which was seen in CT).

  • Jawad_Ali on October 16, 2009, 20:09 GMT

    younis is a rare kind in an age...

    1. where batsmen average around 40 and he is going further down from 33.

    2. where a good strike rate is considered around 80 or 90. His is about 76.

    3. In 2009 his bating average is 24.88 in 16 matches. He has ODI avergae of 15 against Aussies & 25 against RSA... which means he has boosted his average against less competitive teams.

    4. He managed to score his first century against Hong Kong after about 100 innings period spanning over 4 years. The remaing 5 centuries are against india, england and west indies.

    5. His best ODI averages are against Kenya 123, Hong Kong 105 and Zimbabwe 47.

    6. He scored 5 out of 6 centuries on dead asian pitches.

    7. As a captain he almost loose two games after each win.

    8. He has not led by example and does not enjoy the support of his team.

    9. He is man of the match 13 times in 188 innings (3 against Zimbabwe & another against kenya).

    It would be stupidity to compare him with some other captains. right Osman?

  • CricFan24 on October 16, 2009, 5:02 GMT

    I didnt even read the article, just the title and summary- couldnt agree more.

  • ayazali on October 15, 2009, 12:56 GMT

    The corrupt politicians are never summoned in the National Assembly, then why the cricketers are? That's Ridiculous!

  • Subra on October 15, 2009, 8:11 GMT

    Dear Osman You hit the nail on the head - but it should have been on the head of the politicians and those who shout 'corruption' whenever Pakistan loses. Younous was decent enough to play - even with a finger injury, because if he did not play there would be other accusations against him. Play they accuse him, don't play also they will accuse him, but nobody will say that before the match - always after the match because hindsight is the only sight they have. Younus, a decent cricketer (in every sense of the word) must have had it - otherwise he would not want to give up the captaincy. I have never met him, but judging from the way he reacts, he is proud to a Pakistani and to captain Pakistan - but he is also a Proud man and can only stomach so much nonsense. If he has to be summoned, they must have some doubts. That is not fair, to a man who has given 100% all his life to Pakistan cricket. These fairweather politicians be replaced Siva from Singapore

  • Mujeeb.ur.Rahman on October 15, 2009, 7:33 GMT

    Come on Younus, the whole nation is with you. Stand erect and fight but what you did was an extreme. You are the best captain Pakistan has ever had after the previous Khan (Imran).

  • Pathiyal on October 15, 2009, 6:19 GMT

    I have understood that Younus is one of the very few gentlemen ever played for Pakistan. the allegations against him seems to have been cooked up. Cricket has remained so far as an inspiring game (inspite of corruptions and allegations) just because of a very few inspiring players, and undoubtedly Younus is one. Although Imran remains the best captain ever for Pak, Younus was different in his approach. He is caring and gentle and has shown his class on the field. Whenever he played aggressive innings against my country, I just watched with a wry smile and that was out of my fondness for him. My suggestion for him is: "Younus, you move forward. You still have more heights to achieve. Its just a testing time of your life but soon you will see the world on your side" - Mark my words.

  • solomonlaw on October 15, 2009, 4:00 GMT

    The whole mess is a very sorry state of affairs. Unfortunately in most countries, the number one sport of choice is always politicised and used for the gain of other than those playing it. We have similar issues in NZ with rugby but thankfully our country does not share the same level of instability. With any allegation firstly you must have some evidence that the rules have been broken and suspicion because someone drops and easy catch (which happens in at least every second game) is simply not sufficient. HSKADRI is right, on the day they were outplayed by a committed NZ side. Also at the time Elliot was dropped he was plodding along slowly and doesnt have much of a history of big hitting, so how could Younis have predicted what elliot was to do in the next few overs. Simple answer was he couldnt.

  • James35 on October 15, 2009, 1:48 GMT

    C'mon. You are taking this too seriously. Nobody takes resignation from a Pakistani captain seriously. Everybody knows that he'll take back the resignation after meeting with the PCB chairman or after getting a call from the President. You are from Pakistan, you should know how things work there. I'd say, just chill and enjoy the show.

  • pak-united on October 14, 2009, 22:43 GMT

    Why isn't anyone questioning the "retracted" words of the writer who is the origin of this catastrophe? I am yet to come across that "journalist" to be criticized. Should that person not be terminated from his responsibilities? How about the paper publicly apologizes to the Pakistani cricketers for the ill information that have spread in the cricket world? As far as I know that writer was representing that paper, any employer at the end of the day takes the blame for such mishaps, at least in civilized societies they do. Moreoever what are politicians doing in sports events, what is the PCB for, isn't conflict resoluation concerning cricket affairs THEIR job? How about the politicians focus on what they NEED to, and that is to look after the country, not getting entangled in issues as such. As a cricket fan, I don't think Younis Khan should resign, because Pakistan needs him as a leader, and who knows maybe thats what the "respected" writer wanted too.

  • syyed on October 14, 2009, 17:39 GMT

    Spot on Freddy4PM and Bharat1981. I am Pakistani fan & am utterly disappointed to see the thing the way they unfolded after loss to NZ. It would have been a real joy to win but losing is as much part of the game as win itself; trying is the must which Younis and the team did. Unfortunately too much discussion of conspiracy theories has really corrupted our minds and we end up with some very strange explanations of simple things. Public apology is the minimum MP should offer and some would even say that he should be sued for labeling such allegations, questioning Caption's integrity and creating further doubts about the sport which already has enough of it. Younis is very good sportsman and an endearingly honest person, good luck to him!!!

  • wiiCricket on October 14, 2009, 17:14 GMT

    I wonder why Wasim, Salim Malik, Waqar and them never left when match-fixing allegations were imposed on them? I wonder, me thinky. Probably Younis is not all-to-good-brave-Pathan then!!. Dude, face them and give them answer on their faces and prove them that your rubbish will not be tolerated by such baseless accusations. Present me some evidences and then face me or my team. Resigning is nothing but showing weakness on your end Younis.

  • cricketfiles on October 14, 2009, 16:45 GMT

    @ Perfect stranger

    You might consider that statement as sarcasm. IMO it was a smart way of making a statement without owning it. There was no need for that statement. Dasti's allegations have turned Younis into a victim from a culprit. Instead of accusing him for match fixing they should have grilled him for his poor form and poor captaincy. His power play management, bowling changes,inability to curtail singles,decision to play Misbah ahead of U Akmal against Australia and decision to lead the side when he was neither in form nor fit were all questionable. YK averaged just 16 in CT. Since he overtook captaincy he is averaging only 25.Yet we compare him with Ik Other than Afridi none of his team mates came out in public in support of their captain and that tells me how popular he is in the team

  • East_West on October 14, 2009, 15:45 GMT

    very unclinical, very egoistic and erratic, BUT very much pakistani:)

  • JimDavis on October 14, 2009, 15:32 GMT

    A very sad mess, Younis deserves much better. But I doubt if the rest of the world is sniggering. The mess caused by politics and sport mixing is all to predictable now, and as usual it's the political wagon that rolls on to the next farce, running down player after player as it goes.

  • AK.47 on October 14, 2009, 15:27 GMT

    Its such a shame... he is one of the few Pakistani cricketers who I can recall being candid & honest and interested in cricket and nothing but cricket. Pakistan wins or loses but as far as I am concerned the guy is nothing like any Pakistani cricketer that I have seen in years & years. Such a refreshing change to see him around on the field and especially in the post match interviews.

  • E-fox on October 14, 2009, 15:00 GMT

    Just a shame he is one of future great one pakistanis can be proud of.. But simply this match fixing stuff seems like a cheap drama for publicity .... I think media is the one who resposible for this horrible situation .. Cricketer are humans not machines with out feelings ... Im shamed as a asian (SL) ..

  • Winfried on October 14, 2009, 14:07 GMT

    Younis Khan is a gentleman and a great cricketer. He is an inspiration. Politicians in India and Pakistan need to learn to work not spread lies.

    -Nitin (India supporter)

  • HSKADRI on October 14, 2009, 13:07 GMT

    We Cannot Understand what is happening in Pakistan cricket, Everytime they are loosing, something out there, match fixing, they thrown match like that. I dont think this is correct no team will throw the match like that. The Truth is ON THAT DAY New Zealand PLAYED BETTER CRICKET THAN PAK, THEY WON ( that includes all other factors such as umpire decision wrong or right all luck factors is the part and package of a cricket match ) having said that Pakistan is a great team, inspite of their problems such as no team is playing cricket in Pak, eventhough their performance in W.c T20 and Champions Trophy is commandable and I really salute Mr. Younis khan one the only Gentle Man Captain of Pak after Mr.Imran Khan the great.

  • Venky_Daredevil9 on October 14, 2009, 12:57 GMT

    Extremely sad to note that Younis has had to undergo such allegations esp after his leadership which took a country ,ripped of host status (at least in the near future) and as a result cancellation of many months of cricket ,to heights which even his countrymen did not expect. Hopefully things would be sorted out for the good of Pakistan cricket.

  • tranmerechris on October 14, 2009, 11:56 GMT

    Can he come and play for England please

  • FreddyForPrimeMinister on October 14, 2009, 10:18 GMT

    Such a shame. As an Englishman, to the outside world at least, Younis is the best thing to have happened to Pakistan cricket for years. Given the awful circumstances that the team are in, with no home matches available to them, their recent success appears to stem from the solidarity on the pitch that has undoubtedly been engendered since Younis took over the captaincy. His relaxed nature seems to give the players the freedom to express their natural skills on the pitch, whilst his warmth and humour endears himself to all neutrals off it. Above all, he is a true gentleman and a credit to the whole country. For goodness sake, back him and let cricket in Pakistan flourish once more!

  • Idol on October 14, 2009, 10:18 GMT

    This is so unfortunate for Pakistan cricket. Osman could not have used a better word than "stupidity" to describe the chain of events. Some of the comments by my fellow Indians are unfortunate. Watching the Aus-Pak match was a great moment for me. I got to watch Indians applaud Pakistanis, marvel at their bowling skills and their tigerish attitude - and foremost, Younis Khan's captaincy skills. Let alone throw this match, I was actually very surprised by the verve with which they played that game - almost as if they wanted India to qualify. Of course, the true reason really was that they wanted to beat the Aussies. I truly believed that the best thing to happen to Pakistan cricket was what had happened over the past year. They have achieved so much despite heavy odds. Instead of commending it, the PCB is doing a huge disservice to Pakistan cricket in particular and cricket in general. I have a feeling that this time, the damage is irreparable

  • FoolishCow on October 14, 2009, 9:39 GMT

    Bravo@Bharat1981, agreed to what u said about younis khan but unfortunately people of old age over here do not accept defeat so easily and usually accuse one of match fixing instead of just losing the match. no one ever says anything when Pak wins a match just like in CT. only the matches we lost were accused of match fixing and this is being done whenever Pak loses a match. Anyways here almost all Pakistanis support our team & Captain younis khan for their brilliant performance n commitment into cricket. i wished Younis didnt had walked away but rather faced his enemies in media n politics... but it seems, tat its going other way around. n @ Anderson, he's been suggested many times by other people to be fair bt... :)

  • husnain_pak on October 14, 2009, 9:28 GMT

    Why don't these politicians mind their own business and leave cricket it peace. They have already done enough damage to Pakistan and cricket is their next target. The T20 win in June brought joy to Pakistan after a long time and now our Politicians blame the captain who was one of the main reasons for Pakistan to win T20 cup. Younis Khan should stay and Jamshed Dasti should go.

  • Bharat1981 on October 14, 2009, 8:05 GMT

    Mr. Osman is very right it is stupidity of staggering proportions. I am an Indian fan but Younis is one of the very few cricketers who commands respect from cricket lovers of all countries including India not only for his brilliant batting and good captaincy but also for his gentleman nature and his conduct. Even if you take the past players only maybe Inzamam or Saeed Anwar were respected that much as Younis. It is totally absurd that such a respectable person is being metted out such treatment. Mr. Anderson, I would request you not to be so much critical of the Pakistan team. I know you are an Indian supporter. But being a cricket lover, it is not fair to criticise their cricket team as they deserve to be respected for the good cricket they play.

  • Nagen on October 14, 2009, 7:17 GMT

    Shame ! shame! shame! What a ridiculous episode real life soap opera is on! Why don't these bullshit politician keep their politics to themselves. For god's sake don't rub the opinions of these ordinary critics onto the people who are striving hard to taste the success after so many turbulances! Heaven's curse these Pakistani politician and keep the Cricket clean.

  • cricinme on October 14, 2009, 7:08 GMT

    Younis has done a big mistake by resigining. He should have stood his ground and fought the battle with the support of his team mates. Someone in the board is hell bent on removing him from captaincy. He is the most lovable and admired captain Pakistan has ever produced. Nelson - Mumbai.

  • beaman on October 14, 2009, 7:04 GMT

    Osman Bhai please pass Adnan1988 message to Younis Khan personally. Pak nation needs him.he is the fighter and honest person.Since he becoming the Pak team Captain, Pakistani peoples watching cricket again seriously till late night. whole nation with him.

  • cricinme on October 14, 2009, 7:03 GMT

    Younis Khan is made a scape goat by the board for the semi final exit, instead of agreeing that Pakistan lost to a better team. He is a great batsman and a gentleman captain that Pakistan has ever produced, admired all over the world. These theories of match fixing are just baseless and nonsense and proving a point that someone in the board want to get rid of him at any cost. Really shameless.

  • gladiators17 on October 14, 2009, 6:49 GMT

    For Foreman:

    It might sound stupid but i think England needs to show some class in international cricket.

    The only time i have seen england playing well and as team was in Ashes, so i understand your point that it doesn't matter to you if England wins or loose. If this would have been football, even you would have had some interesting comments.

    What say??..

    Tushar

  • Saleem07 on October 14, 2009, 6:39 GMT

    Osman has choosen the right word for this whole thing "STUPIDITY". The whole world is praising the achievements of Team Pakistan, and here we are asking question about match fixing what a shame.

  • Foreman_Cumbria on October 14, 2009, 6:28 GMT

    Gotta love the insecurities and amnomisty of some of the fans towards India...and the belief Pakistan can beat any team...really?...politicians and some fans should accept the fact they lost to New Zealand and the weren't good enough, and were average through the CT except vs India...shish talk about expectations...Australia went unbeaten through the tournament...what were these politicians watching on TV? I mean our media always gload about us winning the footie world cup...but realistically we never expect england to win...but the media, politicians, and fans are on a different level in Pakistan...grow up

  • zain.ul.abideen on October 14, 2009, 6:17 GMT

    a Stupid board a very stupid and politician.

    they are to blame for this mess!!!

    YOunis khan! i'm glad that you are not becoming like them. so many previous captians, have messed up the whole team because they were forced to do so by such stupid politicians in standing committees and the politicians in the Board.

  • imirfan on October 14, 2009, 5:51 GMT

    First of all i think that the committee should not have been involved in this. they have a proper Board management to take of these issues.

    Secondly even if they wanted to call the team management and the captain they should have asked them for the reasons for the defeats instead of blaming the T20 World champions for match fixing.

    Like Osman said in this article "Once again Pakistan shoots it self"

    Comeon guys they are our hero's and deserve some respect.

  • Rajasub on October 14, 2009, 5:50 GMT

    This is unparalleled in history. A captain and a man of integrity in one, Younis should be lauded for his keeping the team together and playing as a unit. One loss and one dropped catch do not indicate anyone being on the take. This is absurd. Ijaz should refuse to accept Younis' resignation with loud firmness and tell the no good politicians to take a powder. Leave the man alone let him work his way back to form let him take care of his batting. And cast all match fixing speculation aside. New Zealand might have put in a supreme effort to win- why cant we think like that. ?

  • shahid_indiain on October 14, 2009, 5:49 GMT

    i am Indian but I have huge respect for pak captain Younis Khan and i like his attitude in the field,he is not only an asset for Pak team but also for the game itself,a through gentle man and an honest personality. I think pak board and even pak public are not supporting him the way they should.I think people of pakistan should come on street to oppose people like Dasti who is hell bent to destroy his own country,s team.

  • Madhavkhanna on October 14, 2009, 5:41 GMT

    What a shame! Pakistan had been playing so well under Younis; the team was beginning to look really good under his leadership. Great new talent too had been found and nurtured under him. It's a sad day for Pakistan cricket, as he is clearly the best captain they have. I have always been a YK fan, I think his simple approach to the game is what makes him such a compelling individual to watch. But being Pakistani Cricket, I am sure Afridi has a big role to play in this. He has been dropping hints for some time now on how he wants to lead the national team; it's a pity that both he and the PCB fail to understand that Afridi will never be the better man for the job. I think Younis has done the right thing, by stepping down. The man had somewhat restored Pakistani cricket and pride in the last few months. And its shameful of the media to point fingers at him- they lost to a better team on the day.

  • Raviss on October 14, 2009, 5:28 GMT

    Thats so typical of Pakistan Cricket! When one is going gud, others try to pull u down...Rubbish, absolutely Rubbish..All hail Dasti!!! wat a great job he did..insulting the skipper who brought glory to our country in these difficult times... any person with integrity will resign this scenario... Younis should only take back his resignation on a condition that Dasti should be sacked!!!

  • version1 on October 14, 2009, 5:02 GMT

    Well what did you expect? Its very clear why Pakistan is having so much trouble both in cricket and politics. I dont blame Younis khan at all. There is a limit that a man can take.And he was just getting the right combinations and working as a team also was making us beleive that maybe people should start 'considering' that they should tour there. Well thats all out in the drain now. To be frank I really dont think the cricket administrators in this case, really deserve any team touring there.And come to think of it dont know who can lead Pakistan now. Dont tell me its gonna be afridi....???

  • khurramzawar on October 14, 2009, 4:45 GMT

    well you can call it stupidity, nonsense, or whatever, Pakistan nation has been so brutally misled and ruled by its politicians, Generals that people now see their ownself with suspision. Even with all this corruption and stupid management we are able to achieve sometihing like T20 win. Watching the events unfolding after champions trophy, it was so heart breaking and frustrating for any sane person that cannot be put in words because words would not describe the pain and suffering of Pakistani cricket followers. Younis Khan was like a shining light in the darkest days of Paskistan cricket, he is honest, brave, intelligent and cool under pressure. He had a very calming influence over his team, but I guess people in the power could not afford a single piece of happniness and joy which this team brought to the nation. I had a very strong belief that this team will rise once again and will fall like this again how and when that I dont know, because no rational can be imagined for this.

  • beaman on October 14, 2009, 4:45 GMT

    It is such a bad news for Pak cricket.Yesterday I saw Imran Khan interview in a Pakistani channel, he said, if he was there in place of Younus, he would slap Mr.Dusti Ijaz Butt shouldn't accept Younus Resignation.

  • Kuzhas on October 14, 2009, 4:27 GMT

    In short, Younis Khan is a man of Integrity he has 'imman' and offers to resign as any leader should when his integrity comes into play. Similarly to the few politicians of note across the globe.

    Now that Jamshed Dasti has been proven wrong, Why has he not apologised to Younis Khan? If he had any integrity like Younis he should now offer to resign from atleast the Sports Committee, which he is obviously not fit to head up.

    Osman is there nothing we true Pakistan Cricket Fans can do? How do we get in contact with the PCB? Or atleast try to get a ground swell of opinion to support Younis!!

  • san_indus on October 14, 2009, 3:55 GMT

    I am an Indian and my favorite cricketer by some distance is Younis Khan. He just brings a refreshing attitude to a cricket field. Really sad to see this mess.

  • Sherazpakistan on October 14, 2009, 3:55 GMT

    Rao Iftikhar for captain!!!

  • mr_jaaneman on October 14, 2009, 3:40 GMT

    throw away all the politician from cricket,they all are fool and idiot.Younis khan come on and Lead the Team,Whole Pakistan Nation is with you.

  • maverick_bowler on October 14, 2009, 3:04 GMT

    stupid politicians... But something tells me that cheap publicity is gonna prove expensive for this chairman of standing committee... I truly hope.

  • shiraz143 on October 14, 2009, 2:53 GMT

    Younis Khan is a good man thats why he resigned. What the hell Butt and Afridi doing discussing the team for. This is completely rubbish and uncalled for what Mr.Butt has done. He should be fired for this. Has anybody noticed in any controversy the team has always afridi is somewhere near by. Afridi cant lead pakistan since he has never been a part of our test team and just till few months back he was himself on the brink of being out of team.

  • shiraz143 on October 14, 2009, 2:49 GMT

    Anderson2010 go get a life and blog on ur indian sites. Go fix your pathetic indian team issues first and please dont worry about pakistan. We can still beat india on any given day ::)

  • ductur on October 14, 2009, 2:27 GMT

    Dasti should not only apologise to younis khan but also to the nation because what he said was rubbish and absurd... the whole nation rejects his madness and demand his resignation........ n we dont want younus to resign.. younus said it was the pakistani people who compelled him to captain the pakistani side.... this time also the nation wants you to keep on doing the job.... the team need you and the whole nation has faith in you and your captaincy.......... Pakistan Zindabad.......

  • Rooboy on October 14, 2009, 1:15 GMT

    Well said, nz_malc. Your comments are spot on. Even before the semi finals had been played, I lost count of how many people were posting on these sites that Pak would crush Aus in the final. Given that Pak didn't even make the final, match fixing must be the only explanation. Or perhaps the usual suspects, the umpires. Heaven forbid that anyone from the sub continent would ever give credit to the better team on the day!

  • adnan1988 on October 14, 2009, 1:00 GMT

    My inside is burning! One could see golden times of Pakistan cricket coming. The whole nation is with Younis Khan. My only message to Mr Osman Samiudin pass this message to Younis Khan personally, he is our man of crisis, he has given a renewed spirit to Pakistan. He still has enormous responsibility on his shoulders, he should not quit captaincy because of few idiots. Because this is only making them stronger, reply them, take back this decision and make Pakistan team World Beaters! Younis you can do it! Pakistan prays to Allah and hopes that you will take this decision back!InshAllah! And this thing is not just about cricket, people in all speheres of life have to face this music! One grows stronger by facing it rather than shying away from it. I have strong belief that if Younis replies to these allegations in a befitting manner, that is by winning coming series against Australia, it will silence these hypocrites forever. InshAllah.

  • amerube on October 14, 2009, 0:06 GMT

    I feel that Dasti should be called for hearing and questioned. Younis is the only sensible option for Captain. Afridi's brain can only function for 20 overs aside game, nothing else registers in his brain if the game is longer. We have seen him captain against West Indies in CT where we were so close to losing the game against a side definitely weaker than Bangladesh and maybe even weaker than Ireland. Thanks to Omar Akmal for that victory!!! Pakistan needs Younis or we will have to grab Yousuf for the position, after all the man has earned it by his service to Pakistan.

  • dhruvnz on October 13, 2009, 23:03 GMT

    This is not "stupidity by the politicians" i don't think they actually believe the match was fixed, they obviously did it to replace Younis as captain because (for whatever reason) they did not want him as captain. Also this controversy gave some Pakistani supporters an "excuse" for their demise in the tournament. It is unfortunate that Younis is the fall guy in this controversy, he is very nice cricketer to watch both on and off the field as previous comments have already stated.I really feel sorry for the pakistani supporters.

  • o.h. on October 13, 2009, 22:28 GMT

    Anderson stop talking nonsense, what country are you from by the way? mediocre team, jokers right lmaoooo your a joke is that why pakistan produces some of the best talent in world cricket!!!!!

  • grundyalex on October 13, 2009, 22:23 GMT

    Second behind only Ponting in the last few years in terms of Batsmen, in my humble opinion. Utter stupidity is the only reasonable explanation.

  • Hassan.Farooqi on October 13, 2009, 22:18 GMT

    Mr. Dasti is beyond stupid. He is an idiot! He relied on a news item from India which the newspaper itself disowned later on. He is a disgrace to the Pakistani parliament as evident today by his use of profanity against another member of parliament Mr. Faisal Saleh Hayat.

    Mr. Dasti did not realize how popular Younis Khan is, and facing backlash, denied his statement, instead of recalling it with an apology.

    Even Mr. Altaf Hussain, the leader of Mohajir community, denounced the allegation of Younis Khan, a Pethan. Shame on you Mr. Dasti, shame on you.

  • Morfi on October 13, 2009, 21:56 GMT

    might mr anderson2010 explain what he means by "proper" cricket and 2proper" teams"?? Pakistan are still ranked among the best 6 teams in the world in all formats - having won the T20 world cup recently. But that is not the point of the article here - what is most important and thankyou osman for this, is the fact that after all that the team and the country has been through in recent times, they had started to look "settled" and on an upward curve finally - they did not need the new controversy - yes I agree with anderson2010 - these jokers (in pak senate) think they actually threw the match - maybe they just needed cheap publicity and actually did not like the pakistan team looking calm and settled - younis shd back as captain and stay on and fight on for another couple of years at least.

  • Srinino1 on October 13, 2009, 21:54 GMT

    The article is well written and brings forth how politicians use cricket to gain popularity. Political parties need to clean their parties before talking about cricket. Having said that, can anyone deny match fixing in cricket? Has'nt it been proven beyond doubt that Hansie Cronje did indulge in it? Was'nt match fixing the destroyer of cricket in Sharjah? Then why dont cricket administrators doing anything to project a clean image? The Pak Aus match in Champions trophy was strange. During the last few overs of Aus innings the betting money was not as much on who would win but the major BET was WOULD INDIA QUALIFY FOR SEMIS? The amount of money on that one wager would have been astronomical. So .........

  • M_H_K on October 13, 2009, 21:38 GMT

    Well no one took Mr. Dasti seriously when he first made some foolish remarks and the next day denied those remarks. Today after the meeting, he said that there was nothing wrong found with Younis Khan and his team. We know that Younis Khan is an emotional person and only emotions were behind his decision. Younis Khan is representing the country and he should not get angry by some non sense reporting. And we all know that reporters from a particular country were behind all this. Those people were licking their wounds of the early exit of their country. Pakistan performed really well in the champion trophy. I agree with Inzamam Ul Haq that board should sue all those people who are behind these baseless allegations.

    Anyway Younis Khan should face these people and he should make non emotional decisions in future.

    @Andeson2010

    First, we would not like to answer to the comments made by a person who has no identity. First tell us , R u Indian or English or just a sore loser?

  • mr.cruizy on October 13, 2009, 21:22 GMT

    Dasti WHO? i mean seriously u can question one's performance/injuries problems, thats okay BUT how on earth can u call him a traitor/cheat? how possibly can he even think of it?and how on earth is this so called PCB not sueing this teet-teet. now i 100% believe that not only the outsiders but our very own politicians DO NOT want us,the pakistani people, happy for once. seriously this team kept my love for cricket team alive and hopes were high that younas is building a very strong and competitive team. a team which is NOT scared of the oppositions.this guy took every single controversy on his own and DID NOT let his players effected by any negative news. he took everything chest on and like a MAN and now this is what we r giving him in return..i demand a public appology from this guy and he MUST b sacked for his act.i swear to God i would have sent him to JAIL for this but alas its PAKISTAN.may Allah help us all and be with us in this difficult time.cricket was the only GOOD THING :(

  • TheRealRockNRolla on October 13, 2009, 21:19 GMT

    @anderson2010 - you certainly belong to the high on low-self-esteem idiots from AUS and ENG or NZ or SA - whatever your origin you are not doing your countrymen any favors by opening your mouth like this --have you forgotten the manhandling of AUS by Pakistan at 2007 T20 or the embarrassment cast upon on the kiwis in 2009 T20 Quarter Finals and 1992 WC Semi-Final, or have you forgotten the bashing of ENG at the 1992 WC final or the taming of the SA in the 2009 T20 Semi-Final - certainly you have not forgotten how to take due credit away from a mercurial side like Pakistan, Eveyone blames Younis for the dropped chance and Powerplay confusion in the Semi-Final vs NZ BUT it was the dodgy and crooked umpiring that brought kiwis to the final - go check ICC code of conduct and check why Simon Taufel and Ian Gould apologized to Umar Akmal and Pakistan team mgmt Javagal Srinath is the ICC referee who made the ruling PAK is a superpower of cricket but sadly Younis is not there bring on Afridi !

  • uetian31 on October 13, 2009, 21:08 GMT

    @anderson2010.....mediocre team!!!! Give me a breakkkkkk...this team has potential to beat any team in the world, evn Auszzzz, i think u were sleeping whn auszz win on last ball, please wake up and talk on facts, if pakistan is mediocre team thn wt do u think about ENGLAND, NZ, INDIA, SRILANKA,WESTINDIES??? after all the alligations and controversies i beleive no one can evn perform at this lavel rathr wining the T20 WC, and reaching to the semi final of CT.

  • abhilashreddym on October 13, 2009, 20:59 GMT

    Next, they'll call matchfixing on a wide. The nation's imploding and they worry about this? God!

  • cricmind on October 13, 2009, 20:53 GMT

    Well it seems that our very old and expired Board officials (including Coach and Manager) are bunch of of silly people how just don't want a settle world class Pakistani team and a Captain who only give nothing less than 100 % on and off the field for his team .younus khan is not only motivational and aspirational captain and a team man for his side but he is also the pride of entire Pakistani nation. the attitute of the board officials towards our great caption ( i deer say because not many captains in our history have won a world cup and entered into semi finals of of successive icc tourments) was nothing but very sickening and it seems that it was long decided by the board officials that they will create such a environment in which he will uncomfortable in working ,and i guess today they have succeeded in your attempt .in the end i would like to something about a person due to which this whole scenerio has been created Mr.dasti welldone man you got your very very Cheap fame !!!!

  • demon_bowler on October 13, 2009, 20:40 GMT

    What a shame. Younis Khan was -- is -- universally admired as a player and even more as a human being. He led the side with skill and was honest, charming and highly likeable in his media appearances. Win or lose, he always had a small on his face. He makes Pakistan friends wherever he goes. He seemed just the leader to restore the country's worldwide reputation and lead it out of the wilderness of isolation. It is terrible that he has been treated this way by his own people.

    The lesson of this absurd scandal is that politicians must keep out of sport.

  • anderson2010 on October 13, 2009, 20:30 GMT

    Stupidty of staggering proportions. As if this mediocre team was actually capable of winning anything at proper cricket. Check pakistan's stats for tests and ODIs for last few series against proper teams. Record speaks for itself and these jokers think they actually threw the match. Now I have heard everything.

  • PalashNair on October 13, 2009, 20:29 GMT

    I beleive its high time that someone with commonsense and passion for the game start running the cricket administration in Pakistan. The team has performed so well offlate and you have these unwanted controvercies. Instead of appreciating the team's performance you have critics who doubt the credibility of the players. Its really pathetic, people need to understand that one can't win every match but when a team has performed so well you need to appreciate them.

  • Iqballatif on October 13, 2009, 20:23 GMT

    Pathetic- Pakistan cannot differentiate between its heroes and villains, this is the story of a messed up country.

  • NaveedZeb on October 13, 2009, 20:02 GMT

    Younis is the only hope this nation got in these troubled times..He is such a honest and clean guy..Whole nations heart goes with him rather than these currupt politicians who should atleast keep their mouth shut if they cant do something good for this country..Only under younis captaincy Pakistan cricket has achieved its pinnacle which was once in the times of Imran Khan..The whole nation got a ray of hope in these troubled times and credit goes to Younis who gelled the team togather and got jewl out of them and converted them to success..Ijaz butt met Afridi to discuss Champions trophy defeat with him..what a shame..Mr. Butt if Younis is there why r u going to Afridi????...Mr.Butt u should be ashamed of what u are doing..HATS OF TO YOUNIS..HE IS A HONEST AND REALL TEAM MAN....WE SULUTE U...THE WHOLE NATION STANDS BY YOU...U ARE OUR CAPTAIN

  • Kash-Hussain on October 13, 2009, 19:55 GMT

    Pakistan Cricket is the ultimate loser in this all, Mr. Dasti should be held accountable for this entire episode, in fact I want the entire sports committee of National Assembly dibanded with immediate effect as it does not make any sense for people to ask questions or insinuate wrongdoing when they do not even understand the sport.

    Another sad day for Pak cricket as Younis was/is the right man to lead Pakistan and whoever thinks Afridi is an alternative should remember that he would not be able to hold his place in a test team even as a spinner (note no mention of his non existent batting skills)

  • nz_malc on October 13, 2009, 19:54 GMT

    Sigh. This always happens when NZ wins any important game. Must be matchfixing. No other possible explanation, is there. Heaven forbid that NZ actually played better than Pakistan on the day. As a long time Black Caps fan, and having experienced the same thing over and over again, it gets quite tiresome having to deal with matchfixing allegations any time we win a big game.

  • prksandeep on October 13, 2009, 19:01 GMT

    Captaincy of Pakistan cricket team is like teaching "Defence of Dark arts" in Harry Potter. Every now and then, there must be a controversy, as per some curse (possibly of Wasim Akram :P ?)

  • wimpie on October 13, 2009, 18:48 GMT

    c'mon younis, stay the world can't do without pakistan cricket and pakistan cricket cannot do without you

    a dutch fan

  • Changez on October 13, 2009, 18:42 GMT

    ufffffff now again after few months v r in the same basket of captain resigning from his post... I think yousis should not resign and stay calm and fight with everything coming towards him. he have the confidence of the former players and public so he should not step down instead of forcing those who are making him step down. he should be the captain for at least till 2011 wc. And i would suggest him just to concentrate of his batting.. he is a natural captain

  • Blueangle on October 13, 2009, 18:39 GMT

    There was some ambiguity in my previous post that I wanted to correct here " Now Pakistan should appoint Mr Dasti as test captain and Afridi for limited overs (50/50 and 20/20). What the heck Afridi is thinking? Afridi's meeting with chairman could be one of the major factors behind YK's decision. Afridi should realize that there is no place for him in test team, his place is 50/50 is questionable and you can't lead a national side based on 3 or 4 T20 performances per year. A guy who could not properly mange and utilize his own immense talent would now manage and captain a national team and on top of that, that team is Pakistan cricket team. Good luck Afridi and God bless Pakistan cricket"

  • saga_cric on October 13, 2009, 18:36 GMT

    really a sorrow state of pak cricket..but don't know whose to be blamed..?the public image of the players in the past has been marred by all sorts of controversies..that makes the pak players vulnerable to such allegations..the basic problem lies within the attitude of the governance..tell me another country where a cabinet committee reads so much between the lines when their team loses..yunis had rightly pointed out in his interview to cricinfo that how can the cricketers be different from their countrymen..yunis is a nice guy and that's his problem-he is too nice to be a captain of such a controversial team..it's bitter truth that the people out there are not competent,professional and pak cricket will have to live with it for a long time..

  • Perfect.Stranger on October 13, 2009, 18:26 GMT

    @ cricketfiles Every team has its good and bad days. You win some and you loose some. That does not mean that the matches are fixed. If your logic is correct then start blaming Smith for loosing the Semi Final of T20 world cup to Pakistan, Sangakara for loosing the Final of the same tournament, especially when both of them were pre-tournament favorites along with India. Blame Dhoni as well for getting knocked out of T20 and Champions trophy in the 1st rounds after being the favorites. And when you are upto it raise a finger at Ponting for loosing the Ashes which nobody thought they would. It seems by your logic all the matches played anywhere are being fixed. And regarding the Malik/Younis win loss ratio issue, most of the wins in Malik's time came against Ban and Zim. Its the quality of opposition that counts. And Osman's statement about Punjabi player lobby is sarcasm towards the rubbish currently flying in our land of pure. So read and comprehend before u start babbling.

  • RashidMahmood on October 13, 2009, 18:20 GMT

    No surpise there Osman!! This very same attitude of leaders and nation is the root cause of all the trouble wheather on cricketing front or national crisis of all kind. Feels like hope and helpless sitiuation........only God might help, otherwise???????

  • Ebaad on October 13, 2009, 17:53 GMT

    Very nice article. But, why Ejjaz Butt called Afridi to find team performance at ICC championship ? He cannot asked with main person Captain or coach? good point Osman. PCB is a mess. Butt should resigned and not poor Younus.

  • 2.14istherunrate on October 13, 2009, 17:53 GMT

    It was all much too quiet at Cricket Pakistan;only a terrorist attack in the past 9 months.Something had to happen.Time to get rid of the only workable captain in the side. No Pakistan side does that well for that long without a major upheaval to follow.After all the logic of New Zealand being the better side on the day could never have been accepted as the cause of defeat.

  • RDLikesCricket on October 13, 2009, 17:49 GMT

    Hello people.. Amongst all this drama around this media hyped match fixing allegations, the losers are the genuine cricket fans. The game suffers. Pak as a team are an interesting bunch of talented cricketers and its not good to see them face such tough times repeatedly. Younis is a good cricketer and seems pretty honest with his opinions. He should not have offered to resign, but who knows he might be back at the helm soon. Afridi should be limited to the role of the entertaining overall player that he is and not look for captaincy. On the brighter side Md. Aamer and Umar Akmal are shaping up to be good cricketers. Good Luck boys.

  • wanderer1 on October 13, 2009, 17:37 GMT

    To cricketfiles: If you think batting collapses are strange ways for Pakistan to lose matches you haven't been watching Pakistani cricket over the past 20 years. They're usually the most common way they tend to lose.

  • Blueangle on October 13, 2009, 17:21 GMT

    Now Pakistan should appoint Mr Dasti as test captain and Afridi for limited overs (50/50 and 20/20). What the heck Afridi is thinking? Now doubt that Afridi was one of the factors behind YK's decision but he should remember that there is no place for him in test team, his place is 50/50 is questionable and you can't lead a national side based on 3 or 4 T20 performances per year. A guy who could not properly mange and utilize his own immense talent would now manage and captain a national team and on top of that, that team is Pakistan cricket team. Good luck Afridi and God bless Pakistan cricket

  • Achettup on October 13, 2009, 17:00 GMT

    You should really read this article while listening to Frank Sinatra croon "Send In The Clowns" :-) On a serious level, I feel bad for Younis, by all accounts he seems to be a decent guy and everyone who writes seriously about the game call him a man of integrity. For those who aren't writing seriously though, you couldn't have written a better script. Pakistan, you need to start accepting that your team is brilliant, but that it can lose a game now and again when things don't go well. Thats life, and life isn't fixed.

  • bonaku on October 13, 2009, 16:56 GMT

    Nice words from osman. But as he said, Pakistan loves shooting their foot themself. Hope u can give up this common sense to some of ur politician.

  • asim1 on October 13, 2009, 16:56 GMT

    I promise you he's not going anywhere, the general consensus is that Younis Khan is the best option for Pakistan at the moment.... They will find a way to bring him back rest assured.

  • inswing on October 13, 2009, 16:53 GMT

    'Stupidity' is the correct word. The Pakistani team is performing better than expected. Carelessly throw around allegations without any evidence whatsoever and now the captain resigns after the team did well? Very irresponsible behavior by Dasti and other officials, they should be asked to resign.

  • farooqr8 on October 13, 2009, 16:34 GMT

    WOW for some reason this failed to surprise me as much as it disgusted me. Once again Pakistan cricket and Pakistan itself seems to be going nowhere. After a long time wandering in blind darkness falling and stumbling over everything even their feet. it seemed like Pak team finally had something going and were ready to make the international comeback that we as a country need. Than BAM!!!! as expected. I don't understand why we take silly things so seriously. No one expected us to go this far in champions trophy, If any country should be outraged it should be SA or even India. but no our overly hyper and reactionary nation does it again. A man can only handle so much rubbish & I don't blame Younis. But hope He or someone from higher authority can keep him as captain. Younis does not need to be captain. Pakistan needs him to be captain. As for Dasti, who is this guy?!! I haven't even heard of him until this... He needs to, no, HAS TO publicly apologize to Younis and go back to his hole.

  • cricketfiles on October 13, 2009, 16:33 GMT

    Osman

    I don't think Younis Khan is innocent as you are trying to portray him. You failed to mention how the team lost it's Odi series against Australia and the test series against SriLanka. Strange ways of losing matches have become a pattern of pak team under Younis. You also failed to mention his personal performance since he became the captain, he is captaining a full strength Pakistan team a luxury which Malik never had, other teams were struggling in CT with injuries, big deal if he reached the semi final. You also failed to mention his w/l ratio which is only 38% as compared to malik's 66%. Your accusation of Punjabi players lobby playing its role against him is no different than Dasti's accusation, it's totally baseless and without any substance. You criticised Malik for not leading from the front and questioned his place in the team then lets be honest and criticise Younis also and hold him responsible for his poor performance.

  • faforce on October 13, 2009, 16:25 GMT

    Younus's resignation should not be accepted instead, Dasti should be sacked.

    Yes, a captain should be able to deal with such non sense but I think the most important thing is to get the problem from it's roots. Younus is temperamental but for good reasons.

    I love Afridi so much that I don't want him to become a Captain and soon be out of cricket after being so good since he was 16.

  • hsinaad on October 13, 2009, 16:14 GMT

    This is simply ridiculous, I cannot believe that Younus is going. He's the best leader we've had in god knows how long, always up for a challenge and the PCB of all people have turned against him. They have no right to make a formal committee to investigate matters that they themselves MUST know are completely unfounded. I think that now we need to show our support for Younus and say that even though the parliament might not value him we do.

  • anilkp on October 13, 2009, 16:10 GMT

    This is a problem with Pakistan, its administration, and its people. IND, SA and SL also failed to reach the Semis; did anyone in those countries raise such allegations? PAK rather did far better than those teams. AUS lost the Ashes. Did the Australian public hound their team? AUS lost the home Test series to SA and the same happened to SA later. Did such stupidity surface there? The answer to all these questions is a huge NO.

  • Aahd on October 13, 2009, 16:03 GMT

    Our politicians in Pakistan really need to give the people a break. They are driving away any joy we can derive from any source. Our cricketers have made us proud on the field, they have been good off it as well in recent past.

  • Z.Saleem on October 13, 2009, 16:02 GMT

    You are 100% right Osman bhai....we have to raise the point, and believe me we people of Pakistan don't have any complains for the team and we know that they played their heart-out and have been doing well under Younus captaincy, so this is really a mess created by the media and the ministers. This will be worst for Pakistan team if Younus resigns as every Pakistani cricket fan knows that how honest and sincere guy Younus Khan is!

  • pipsonian on October 13, 2009, 15:58 GMT

    It is totally absurd and stupid of Osman to suggest that there is a punjabi lobby in the team or the management. If that was the case, Younis Khan and Afridi wouldnt have been the captain in the first place. I am Pathan myself but being a Muslim and a Pakistani is more important plus at times like these we shouldnt, especially Osman yourself, be bringing up topcs of ethnic divisions in the team. I seriously dont think that anything like that exists in Pakistani cricket team or Pakistani public in general but for some reason we Pathans and Karachiites blame Punjabis for most of our hopelessness and failures. That is pathetic.

    I pretty much agree to the other points that Osman has made in this article.

  • mirfarali on October 13, 2009, 15:57 GMT

    Dear Pak Cricket Administrators,

    This is coming from a die hard indian fan. Plz plz plz, if you cannot make something better, please do not make it worse. After a long time, Pak cricket was being seen outside Pakistan and some really good players were emerging like Aamer and Umar Akmal. If younis decides to step down, then I am with him. No one would want to play, leave alone captain the team when every action of it is dealt with in this fashion. But it would be a great loss to cricket in general and Pak in particular.

  • Anubhav-the-Experience on October 13, 2009, 15:55 GMT

    I feel that the news was more of a emotional reaction from Indian media. However, I felt that in the match against Australia, Pakistan was hyper-loose which finally led to loss of good rhythm resulting in a loss in semi-final match against New Zealand. But this reaction is exactly similar to Pakistan blaming umpires for its loss which is somewhere between fair and unfair. But finally it is a sport and things change quickly. Pakistani people however should be more concerned about their team's inconsistent and moody approach. Younis attracts controversies by his own lack of tact while speaking as he did after losing the first few matches in T-20 world-cup. But he will learn. I feel that our country's media is hyper-foolish trying to create problems when there is none. But things are going to remain so and general cricket loving public should not lose their blood over such issues.India and South Africa are still on top and Australia is regaining no matter what anyone says.................

  • fk360 on October 13, 2009, 15:35 GMT

    What a stunning and completely unnecessary mess.

    The batting was notoriously poor throughout the entire tournament outside one fantastic partnership against India. That was found out against Aus although the bowlers did a marvellous job in trying to claw back that game, definitely no match fixing there, quite a ridiculous claim actually as commented by Michael Hussey. Then against New Zealand the bowlers couldn't quite produce the miraculous on a good pitch to save another below par batting performance.

    Then as Osman says the mischief making begun, what I don't understand is why libel laws don't quite apply in the subcontinent. Younis would well be within his right to challenge the journalist who begun this mess and the customary inept Pakistani sports minister who continued such allegation without proof or checking any basis of logic.

    Yet another controversy which reflects poorly on Pakistan cricket, it's governing body as well as Pakistani and Indian press.

  • mushira on October 13, 2009, 15:29 GMT

    This can happen only in Pakistan Cricket.. this politician gets the popularity. Younis should stay..

  • Nemos_Eleven on October 13, 2009, 15:24 GMT

    Pakistani politicians and brainless media fell to the foxy Indian media. Having said that Younis should have also shown some courage and stood up strong against everything thrown at him and should have tried to battle it out in the cricket field. This whole situation also shows how helpless this cricket board is, Mr. Butt should have shielded his captain and the team from politicians and media. I also hope that Pakistani media learn a lesson from all this episode and for a change support our captain and team, who has been doing really well considering all storms it had to bear, any other team could have melted away, WI is a prime example and there problems look tiny compare to Pakistan's cricket. In the end fans like myself are disappointed once again!

  • uetian31 on October 13, 2009, 15:22 GMT

    stupidity at its highest level! If i would be Younus khan, i would definatelyy have sued this minister, how come he out of blue moon can make such eligations? is he in sane, also i really admire Younus khn's decesion , atleast some one has stoodup and said tht enough is enough, we have ruined our national heros just bcoz of some people like Dasti, heros like wasim, waqar, saleem malik etc,

  • SAILESHKBASU on October 13, 2009, 15:20 GMT

    Except Younis and Yousuf who else can give consistent performance + not getting involved in sledging etc.

    Groupism in cricket teams is a worldwide problem for ages

  • cybean on October 13, 2009, 15:19 GMT

    I personally believe that Jamshed Dasti should resign instead of Younas. And if he don't do so .... Whole Cricket Team should stand with there captain and refuse to play until Dasti resigns...

    If team didn't stood by there captain, they will never close door on these stupid allegations. We should be proud of our Team who provided us smiles (after a long time) in T20 and Champions Trophy.

  • knowledge_eater on October 13, 2009, 15:18 GMT

    Seriously, Cricket was the only good thing (currently) happening to Pakistan, and this kind of stupid allegations against them currently is totally rubbish. I always respect Younis, he is very sporty. I can't believe Pakistani people envy their own people. Please, stop all this. Why can't people consume their defeat. I agree with Mr. Osman that country who is playing so little cricket, due to all b.s. happening to country for last 4-5 years and still doing great and have to face such a horrible allegation. Why no-one says a word when Aus. or S.A. or some other non-asian country lose. They accept defeat with pride. These desi (especially Pakistani and Indian) people will never learn how to respect each other, come on, atleast support your own people. I am very disappointed with this B.S. started by Mr. Dasti. I am stating again Cricket is only good thing happening to pakistan currently don't contaminate it. By the way, i am an Indian, i respect humanity more than race.

  • YogifromNY on October 13, 2009, 15:10 GMT

    Osman bhai, spot on in your analysis as usual. I am a die-hard Indian fan based in the US and even I was compelled to admire this Pakistani team and Younis's captaincy in particular, over the past few months. Just when we thought that this team might grow to be the equal of THAT Pakistani team (which won the World Cup), along comes this senseless wave of allegations. What is it about the Pakistani cricket establishment that makes it prone to blowing itself up every few years? That said, someone should take legal action against the Indian journalist and newspaper that started this farce in the first place, but that would be too much to expect, would it not? I can just hope that sanity prevails and Younis can be persuaded to reconsider his decision. This Pak team has the potential to be world-beaters and they are exciting to watch as well, but not if this nonsense continues!

  • LordOfCric on October 13, 2009, 15:07 GMT

    Why is it Pakistani players always involve in these kinds of controversies? I think its not fair to doubt younis's dignity, loyalty and love for his country. I dnt like him as a captain, but he is a great sportsmen and this kind of baseless bashing will discourage him and affect his performence.

  • aukhan420 on October 13, 2009, 15:04 GMT

    You are absolutely right. The Stupidity shown by the politicians (as in all other fields) and the irresponsibility of the media has led us to this stage. I thinks Mr. Dasti has done this only to show off and say .. see I ordered them to appear before me!!! but he has failed to impress and this will have diverse effects on him and very far reaching effects on the Pakistan cricket, which after a very long time, had started coming back to the right track...

  • yaseenk2002 on October 13, 2009, 15:04 GMT

    I feel bad for Pakistani cricketers. They gave their all and then they have to face this only because they lost in semis of second ICC tournament! Its none of their business to put up with this.....They should honourably stop playing until Pakistan public, media and politicians sort of support and apologize to them and call them back....

  • amsof on October 13, 2009, 15:02 GMT

    To start with we are very proud that the team has performed so well. The only thing which seems to be doing good in Pakistan is cricket. The politicians claiming match fixing should check their own intergrity first. Its a shame that some people are using any issue to come into limelight. We have had enough of these non sense and Pakistan has had enuff of these politicians. Who know nothin but the ways to fill their Swiss accounts. May we get rid of these greedy, non patriotic, unethical guyz running Pakistan. Please be strong Yunis whole nation backs you.

  • smokinskull86 on October 13, 2009, 14:58 GMT

    Younis Khan is the best thing to have happened to Pakistan cricket since the days of Imran Khan , for once they have had a leader captaining the side and not just any other random player.All this has happened because Pakistani media and the national assembly have no other work to do , why not invest time more concretely discussing and formulating policies about Taliban and all the things happenning in the country . This is absolutely insane , the fact that they are questioning Younis Khan's credibility . I support Younis Khan and hope he comes out clean.

  • wanderer1 on October 13, 2009, 14:57 GMT

    Don't leave me Younis Khan!!!! Don't go! Where's the evidence, that's all that's needed, is it too much in this day and age, is everyone guilty until innocent now? Incompetent Pakistani officials who aren't fit to tie their shoelaces have once again done themselves in,and an honest man has been led to the slaughter house to be sacrificed so corrupt men can continue their way.

  • Thiru.Cumaran on October 13, 2009, 14:54 GMT

    I really would like to whack Dasti with my bat! Frankly, Younis was the best thing that could happen to pakistan cricket in these tough times and this idiot suspects some hanky panky. Wonder how much hanky panky Dasti was involved in with the nation's coffers?

  • galadhil1 on October 13, 2009, 14:54 GMT

    This is not only insulting to the Pakistani cricket team and Younis Khan but its insulting to the New Zealand cricket team! Why is it always the case "the match must be fixed" whenever New Zealand beats ppakistan. Is it because New Zealand is so bad they couldn't possibly ever beat the great pakistan? Well heres news, pakistan's team isn't all conquering and new Zealand totally out played the Pakistani's in that final and deserved to be in the final. Stop denigrating the New Zealand cricket team and its captain and the people of New Zealand just because we get up and beat you!!

  • wiiCricket on October 13, 2009, 14:53 GMT

    He has done the "Younis" again. This will be a term to remember.

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  • wiiCricket on October 13, 2009, 14:53 GMT

    He has done the "Younis" again. This will be a term to remember.

  • galadhil1 on October 13, 2009, 14:54 GMT

    This is not only insulting to the Pakistani cricket team and Younis Khan but its insulting to the New Zealand cricket team! Why is it always the case "the match must be fixed" whenever New Zealand beats ppakistan. Is it because New Zealand is so bad they couldn't possibly ever beat the great pakistan? Well heres news, pakistan's team isn't all conquering and new Zealand totally out played the Pakistani's in that final and deserved to be in the final. Stop denigrating the New Zealand cricket team and its captain and the people of New Zealand just because we get up and beat you!!

  • Thiru.Cumaran on October 13, 2009, 14:54 GMT

    I really would like to whack Dasti with my bat! Frankly, Younis was the best thing that could happen to pakistan cricket in these tough times and this idiot suspects some hanky panky. Wonder how much hanky panky Dasti was involved in with the nation's coffers?

  • wanderer1 on October 13, 2009, 14:57 GMT

    Don't leave me Younis Khan!!!! Don't go! Where's the evidence, that's all that's needed, is it too much in this day and age, is everyone guilty until innocent now? Incompetent Pakistani officials who aren't fit to tie their shoelaces have once again done themselves in,and an honest man has been led to the slaughter house to be sacrificed so corrupt men can continue their way.

  • smokinskull86 on October 13, 2009, 14:58 GMT

    Younis Khan is the best thing to have happened to Pakistan cricket since the days of Imran Khan , for once they have had a leader captaining the side and not just any other random player.All this has happened because Pakistani media and the national assembly have no other work to do , why not invest time more concretely discussing and formulating policies about Taliban and all the things happenning in the country . This is absolutely insane , the fact that they are questioning Younis Khan's credibility . I support Younis Khan and hope he comes out clean.

  • amsof on October 13, 2009, 15:02 GMT

    To start with we are very proud that the team has performed so well. The only thing which seems to be doing good in Pakistan is cricket. The politicians claiming match fixing should check their own intergrity first. Its a shame that some people are using any issue to come into limelight. We have had enough of these non sense and Pakistan has had enuff of these politicians. Who know nothin but the ways to fill their Swiss accounts. May we get rid of these greedy, non patriotic, unethical guyz running Pakistan. Please be strong Yunis whole nation backs you.

  • yaseenk2002 on October 13, 2009, 15:04 GMT

    I feel bad for Pakistani cricketers. They gave their all and then they have to face this only because they lost in semis of second ICC tournament! Its none of their business to put up with this.....They should honourably stop playing until Pakistan public, media and politicians sort of support and apologize to them and call them back....

  • aukhan420 on October 13, 2009, 15:04 GMT

    You are absolutely right. The Stupidity shown by the politicians (as in all other fields) and the irresponsibility of the media has led us to this stage. I thinks Mr. Dasti has done this only to show off and say .. see I ordered them to appear before me!!! but he has failed to impress and this will have diverse effects on him and very far reaching effects on the Pakistan cricket, which after a very long time, had started coming back to the right track...

  • LordOfCric on October 13, 2009, 15:07 GMT

    Why is it Pakistani players always involve in these kinds of controversies? I think its not fair to doubt younis's dignity, loyalty and love for his country. I dnt like him as a captain, but he is a great sportsmen and this kind of baseless bashing will discourage him and affect his performence.

  • YogifromNY on October 13, 2009, 15:10 GMT

    Osman bhai, spot on in your analysis as usual. I am a die-hard Indian fan based in the US and even I was compelled to admire this Pakistani team and Younis's captaincy in particular, over the past few months. Just when we thought that this team might grow to be the equal of THAT Pakistani team (which won the World Cup), along comes this senseless wave of allegations. What is it about the Pakistani cricket establishment that makes it prone to blowing itself up every few years? That said, someone should take legal action against the Indian journalist and newspaper that started this farce in the first place, but that would be too much to expect, would it not? I can just hope that sanity prevails and Younis can be persuaded to reconsider his decision. This Pak team has the potential to be world-beaters and they are exciting to watch as well, but not if this nonsense continues!