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Why are India's home ODI squads so large?

Having lots of players sitting around doesn't really do anyone concerned any good

Harsha Bhogle

January 11, 2013

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Cheteshwar Pujara at practice, Ahmedabad, November 13, 2012
It'll take a fair bit of tweaking the line-up if Pujara is to play ODIs against England. Wouldn't he be better served playing for Saurashtra in the Ranji Trophy instead? © Associated Press
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Cheteshwar Pujara's selection to India's one-day international team was inevitable, to the extent that you must wonder why it took so long coming. (But since picking a team is much easier when you don't have to actually pick and choose players, we'll let that be.) However, since he has been added to a squad that is far too big anyway, we need to see whether or not he actually gets to play. And that is where I believe the selectors need to send a clearer signal.

As I see it, there is no point in playing Pujara anywhere below No. 4. With Virat Kohli and Yuvraj Singh at 3 and 4, that really leaves only one of the opening slots. By leaving out Virender Sehwag, the selectors have clearly told Ajinkya Rahane that he is going to get a bit of a run at the top of the order, which means Pujara will need to play in place of Gautam Gambhir, if at all.

The other alternative, of course, is that Yuvraj plays Suresh Raina's role at No. 6 and Kohli slips to 4 to allow Pujara in at 3, but I think Kohli has earned the right to own his batting position.

Now if indeed there has to be a choice between Pujara and Gambhir, I believe it is appropriate that the selectors make it rather than the captain and coach. In any case, teams are decided after consulting the team management, so it shouldn't be too difficult for them to choose one or the other.

But if Pujara is indeed left out, it makes no sense to have him with the team, given that Saurashtra have had a wonderful season in the Ranji Trophy and they will need him if they are to progress further. He is playing such dominant innings for them that it would be criminal to have him sit around. It's a bit like with Rohit Sharma - for Mumbai, he is the star, the match-winner, and he will be far more positive being wanted there rather than taking caps or water out for someone in the India side.

That is why India must pick no more than 13 players for a home one-day international. One reserve batsman, one reserve bowler. That means most people are sure of their places, which is nice. Picking players on the morning of a game, which means having them spend the night in suspense, does nobody any good. With 13 you cover for a late injury, and really you don't need more cover than that. In good teams you must have as few people as possible who have little chance of playing.

On another note, I hope the BCCI is very unhappy with the way the Ranji Trophy quarter-finals have gone. Three of the four matches were one-innings affairs, and while the weather may have played a part in one of those, there is no way that can be good for Indian cricket. Teams need to play to win outright, not take a first-innings lead and then sit down to lay an egg on it. Mumbai refused to go for an outright win in their last league match, which I hope earned them a rebuke somewhere, and they weren't particularly keen to ask their bowlers to bowl Baroda out a second time in the quarter-final either. I know they need to budget for workloads and potential injuries but it makes the Ranji Trophy a poorer tournament. Anything that leads to bouts of meaningless cricket cannot be good. And there has been a lot of meaningless cricket this year on pitches where bowlers have been rendered toothless.

That is why I am so eager to see young Jiwanjot Singh. I spoke to a couple of umpires and they told me that the pitches in Punjab this year were green and helped seam bowlers a lot. Runs in those conditions are more valuable, and Jiwanjot has four hundreds (including a double) this year.

On the flip side, Amol Muzumdar has made five centuries. I have long been an admirer of Muzumdar's cricket, but the fact that at this stage in life he is scoring centuries on demand speaks very poorly of the bowling he is up against. And it merely illustrates my view, long held and routinely reinforced, that having so many teams in first-class cricket does Indian cricket more harm than good.

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Posted by bmans on (January 14, 2013, 15:51 GMT)

Its high time now and BCCI should come out of its money making thoughts and try to be innovative and improve Indian cricket. It's our Countrymen sheer talent that is running Indian cricket for all these days and there hasnt been any effort from BCCI to improve Indian cricket. With the money BCCI has got, it should plan for a 3-match series in England or SA every year by picking up 2 teams with emerging or young players. It will get them exposure to play outside and accustom to all the conditions.

Posted by bvnathan on (January 14, 2013, 14:10 GMT)

Harsha ...there is no meaning in having Ranji league matches of 4 days and one of the teams bats for 2 days to gain points on first innings lead. What this reflects there is no contest between ball and bat, as the pitches are benign to the bowlers capability or the other way around. To make force a decision and give equal opportunity to both the team, the league matches should provide 2 first innings of 105 overs and two second innings of 75 overs each (90 overs/day x 4 days = max 360 overs) OR make the matches 5 days duration with 2 first innings of 120 overs and 2 second innings of 105 over each (90 overs/day x 5 days = 450 overs). This could make it more interesting by changing the points awarded for the teams that shows real class in their capabilities.

Posted by Hiba.R on (January 14, 2013, 11:43 GMT)

That's not an issue, what has been raised by Harsha, the issue is selecting "Performing Eleven"...India often end up playing non-performing players who keep repeating their dismal performances and only help the side being white washed. The team management should be ruthless when it comes to selecting performing playing eleven, and this should be done regardless of the pedigree of the player.....so only the fittest be on the team.

Posted by rashivkd on (January 14, 2013, 7:29 GMT)

Picking 15 players for home matches is madness in either ODI or Tests. Selectors should announce their eleven and one or two reserves before one or two days. That will give a clear focus on players. Australia successfully following this idea for long time now. About Ranji trophy, it should be league matches instead of knock outs with 8 or 6 qualified teams, then teams will try to win each matches for topping the table. Then Associations will try to make spotting wicket for getting results.

Posted by Aashiq.kb on (January 14, 2013, 1:46 GMT)

I totally supports your view, Harsha. If we want better cricketers then we need to give them the best pitches, grounds & other facilities during domestic matches. First we need change our mindset regarding pitches. Pitches should be made for playing 'Cricket' & not for 'Batting'. Then I guess half of our problem will be solved. :) What's your opinion, Harsha?

Posted by freemasons on (January 14, 2013, 1:38 GMT)

i dnt know why ppl get so cynical with kohli.... he's also a human being.... giving him chance is really important because he's the player to watch out in future... so many centuries last year including a few in ausstralia... that shows the mans potential... pujara must be given opportunity but not at the expence of kohli..... and gambhir has to increase his solidarity... even if his runs come at a strike rate of 80 odd.... in the last couple of years india has given him so many lifeless pitches to play that he goes for big shots and gets out all the time.. indian cricket must stop preparing lifeless batting belters even fro ranji cricket... because that encourages the bowlers to bowl fast and with effort and tests the batsmen

Posted by here2rock on (January 13, 2013, 23:17 GMT)

Too many unsound decisions by selectors, they need to cut down the squad to 12. The captain Dhoni and the rest of the management keep picking the same XI with the same disappointing results. The inform players bought from Ranji Trophy do not get to play in the side.

Posted by tickcric on (January 13, 2013, 17:27 GMT)

@ EnglishCricket Can England field even an ordinary team on their own? :))

Posted by Nampally on (January 13, 2013, 17:18 GMT)

The Indian culture tries to please the majority even at the risk of sacrificing the job integrity. I am sure all Selectors are instructed to choose the best XI + some reserves to fall back. If there are more than one person competing for the same position & also if the pitch conditions are likely to change, 4 reserves may be partly justified. But on flat Indian wkts. it is not likely to see any changes in the pitch conditions. Only justification then boils down to injuries during pre-match training sessions. But when you are making star candidates like Rohit, Pujara, Tiwary, Rahane sit on the bench, it is not acceptable. Either you get these guys in XI or do not select them in 15. Dhoni's captaincy is such, he pre-selects his XI not only for one match but for the whole series. He is "Tunnel visioned" guy who cannot think outside the box.The Selectors must understand this. They chose Pujara to replace Sehwag - instead Dhoni dropped him form XI,much to chagrin of Pujara. What a Captain?

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 13, 2013, 9:41 GMT)

@VickGower: Thanks man, I also wish cricinfo forum were more state of the art and allowed us some other things too, for eg letting us reply to someone, using quotes, having features like +1 or like or dislike etc. I understand cricinfo want to avoid any libel but I wish they were a bit faster in going the comment screening process before publishing or rejecting them.

As for the Gambhir-Sehwag debate, IMO Sehwag should have been dropped after the CB series itself. He does not contribute to the team much now. Doesn't bowl, is a slow fielder, a reasonably good catcher but lax. He has to be a solid batsman to find a place in team yet he fails there too. Gambhir is younger and deserves more chance. Don't forget he has been the top scorer in the 2 WC Finals India have won of late, so he is a big match player.

Some Ind fans are fickle, they want us to win all the time and refuse to see anything else. Sachin or Kohli - they want a 100, tricks form Dhoni. Their love is good but not as a knot.

Posted by mitgop11 on (January 13, 2013, 3:15 GMT)

I think the reason for retaining more players in the team is political than anything else. When you have five selectors, each responsible for taking care of players from each zone, increasing the size of the team is an easier way for them to pick people from all zones easily. And yeah, the state of ranji cricket is in tatters for more than a few decades now. In league cricket, is there any point in having knockouts? The winner should be the table topper with points given for both batting and bowling as well (more in lines of english domestic cricket). This way outright wins have more importance than first innings lead and teams would be encouraged to create result oriented wickets.

Posted by Tal_Botvinnik on (January 13, 2013, 1:55 GMT)

indian batsmen are flat-track bullies.instead of all these point-less odis,t20s can't they have more a-team tours to aus,rsa.ipl is nothing but a timebomb fixed on indian cricket

Posted by Nampally on (January 13, 2013, 0:44 GMT)

Harsha, you are right on when you say Pujara's entry into ODI has been long overdue.But the biggest hurdle he faces is MS Dhoni, who makes it a point of benching ALL talented youngster for 10 games. Ideally, the Selectors must give a XI to Dhoni with 2 extras local players, for carrying drinks or substitutes. The Way Dhoni treats these youngsters (with total disdain in benching them) is just shocking. Rahul Sharma(benched 15 -20 times), Tiwary, Rahane, Rohit Sharma - all suffered several benching. Now Pujara joins this List! Kohli was out thrice to Junaid - totalled just 13 runs in 3 ODI's against Pakistan@ #3. He fell again to Bresnan for 15.Pujara is the best equiped & most complete Indian batsman & should go #3 - if at all he plays in XI. If not he should play in Ranji instead of being benched. Kohli can bat #4, Dhoni #5 & Yuvraj #6. As for opening batsmen, Dhawan & Mukund, J.Singh are all contenders along with Rahane.But the biggest problem is Dhoni's bizzare selection of XI !

Posted by himohan007 on (January 12, 2013, 10:19 GMT)

Harsha after being 23 years of Indian Commentator u dont know the answer. The four extra players are in the team just because there can be 4 unfit/aged players in the team take break while fielding among the likes of Shewag,Gambir,Yuvi,Sachin,Zak,Ashwin

Posted by 504429641 on (January 12, 2013, 7:06 GMT)

Good article. I had same doubt not just over a few days but over a couple of years. Teams like Australia have only a squad of 13 for home ODIs and even Tests; and whats more they release the 13th person a day before the match, so that he can play domestic cricket. on the match day, only one non playing person (12th man) will be there. But in India, even for home matches, 15 member squads are chosen and the non playing 4 are simply wasting their time. instead atleast two can be released so that they can play ranji instead. Surely this thing has to be changed in India.

Posted by henchart on (January 12, 2013, 6:53 GMT)

After playing Aus at home in tests comes the one and half months of madness in form of IPL .Champions Trophy follows IPL and Indian cricketers ,especially Dhoni,would be ready with a lament after an early exit there that too much cricket was played since T20 WC in SLK.Of course,Dhoni is going to laugh his way to the bank irrespective of the team he leads going to doldrums and I am not referring to CSK.Point is ,try new faces .These jaded and overrated ones have been a big failure anyways be it against England ,Pakistan or Australia.Dont be surprised if there is call to persuade maestro to come out of ODI retirement as the next ICC event is in UK.

Posted by   on (January 12, 2013, 5:00 GMT)

An even better article would be, "Why is India's schedule so crammed?"

Posted by Batmanian on (January 12, 2013, 4:18 GMT)

@SirIvor, that is a truly awful idea. It would take most of the tactics of what often becomes asymmetrical warfare out. Perhaps limiting the first innings of each team to 90, or more like 120, overs would have some merit. But setting a target in the third innings, or bowling strategically in a third innings, form a pivot upon which Test cricket operates.

Posted by luks on (January 12, 2013, 3:22 GMT)

The second last para about Jiwanjot Singh is very, very interesting. I just realized after looking at the Rajkot game that Jadeja and Pujara must have played half their games on the flat beds in Rajkot (with lightning quick outfield), as they play for Saurashtra. Selectors should take these things into account and rate runs in tough conditions higher than on flat beds. Especially, in India where there are lots of flat tracks like Rajkot. I think Bhogle makes a very good point.

Posted by   on (January 12, 2013, 2:25 GMT)

On the flip side, Amol Muzumdar has made five centuries. I have long been an admirer of Muzumdar's cricket, but the fact that at this stage in life he is scoring centuries on demand speaks very poorly of the bowling he is up against. And it merely illustrates my view, long held and routinely reinforced, that having so many teams in first-class cricket does Indian cricket more harm than good.

Posted by bulldo on (January 12, 2013, 1:55 GMT)

I tend to disagree with what 100_rabh says. what Harsha talks abt is the quality of bowlers in that particular group. No doubt Muzumdar was and is a class act. it is just because he was unlucky to have born in the same period of Dravid, Tedulkar and Laxman. I am sure if age was in his side, he should have easily walked into the present team. It happened with many cricketers- Amre, Kambli, AW Zaidi (remember he was the best bowler in Ind-Pak U-19 series) and etc

Posted by   on (January 11, 2013, 23:05 GMT)

This article echoes my thoughts word to word. Gambhir is not going to be dropped as his form in the ODI format alone has been pretty good. It's in tests and T20s he's been below average. Kohli's lean patch was somewhat expected given the unbelievable success he has had until this slump. There's no way the team would leave him out. Pujara will not get a chance until we have a dead rubber scenario. Such is the case with Rohit as well. I would have liked to see Rayudu being picked more than these 2 guys in discussion. Rohit simply doesn't deserve more ODI chances. Rayudu has a great technique, his solidity in defense and his natural attacking game are both tailor made for ODIs. I hope he debuts for India soon (in tests too).

I was bemused by Mumbai's attitude towards the game. They had a chance to win the game if they declared with a lead of 530 or so.. If batsmen are more keen on triples and doubles rather than results, things aren't gonna change.

Posted by   on (January 11, 2013, 23:04 GMT)

Rightly said Harsh, I am of your opinion on Ranji trophy... pitches are so flat and players piles up the runs and some of the pitches and players are exceptional anyways... what was more disappointing is to see 3 QF matches seeing no results and almost on 3rd u knew they would be drawn matches, and teams also r happy to take first innings and sit on it. not good for cricket, and teams like mumbai who should lead from front, have 9 draws out of 10 matches played so far, and everytime i see them scoring off huge runs in first innings and r satisfied to take 3 points. in last match of league, what their coach said for not chasing down the score was so funny, "anyways we were qualified, there was no point in taking risks". so funny it is. and moreover only option I could see here to improve the Ranji is to remove the first innings lead point system and teams gets points only for outright wins, this for sure will change the approach of the game and get some quality pitches, games n players

Posted by VickGower on (January 11, 2013, 19:47 GMT)

@Harmony111: LOL!! Without saying I agree/disagree with you, I just wish other posters were half as diligent/rigorous as you when it comes to commenting/debating issues here. I can tell you, the forum is richer for it. I do wish these forums were more filled with debates rather than one off hit and run or lazy/cursory or troll like comments. E.g. "why not Gautam if Sehwag" comment is a regular one hit wonder on these forums, and it just makes me shake my head. Cause, you know, you could then say, if Gautam and Sehwag, why not Kohli? So on and so forth until you end up with Dhoni and various combination of random players as per the poster's eccentricities. But my main point is, all it takes is a cursory glance at the performance of Gambhir vs Sehwag in 2012 to answer that question. Gambhir had numerous scores above 50 in 2012! Two centuries and two near centuries btw. Sehwag had exactly ONE score above 50. How hard is it to check this before mouthing off? So, kudos to you.

Posted by VickGower on (January 11, 2013, 19:28 GMT)

@Sir.Ivor, the point for administrators should not be to effect outright wins, rather, to effect good cricket with balance between bat and ball. Just because today's ODI in Rajkot had a limit on overs does not mean that cricket or the players (aside from batsmen) were better off for it. In any case the point of Ranji Trophy is to mirror the test world, not the ODI world. The issue is, the nature of the pitches. India needs to develop tracks that will provide a bit for batsmen and bowlers alike; and for fast bowlers and spinners alike. I suspect you can't just achieve this by leaving a tinge of grass. You still want the bowlers to have to work a little for it, otherwise you will suddenly have a glut of bowlers with rich hauls and I am not sure what that will tell us either.

Posted by EnglishCricket on (January 11, 2013, 18:40 GMT)

India are an ordinary team :)

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 11, 2013, 18:39 GMT)

@jimmy2s: Apparently you can't read nor know how to pick the right word. Tell me, why would I gloat If Ind have lost 1-2 to Pakistan. Would I gloat or would I sulk/crib/mourn (if at all) ??

Secondly, did you read ALL of my comments? Start from bottom up. Had you done that you won't have said what you said. I congratulated 'em all.

Thirdly, show me where exactly I TALKED DOWN the Pak players who did well in this series. In fact, I had said that Junaid was AWESOME while Irfan was IMPRESSIVE. Does that sound like talking down to you?

What I had said was in ref to comments of one Mazii who was already calling Junaid & Irfan as GREAT bowlers - does that not sound tooooo premature to you?

As for Jamshed, he did get plenty of runs here but I really don't think he will ever become a GREAT Batsman - he does not have that look & grace. Everyone knew in 92 itself that Inzi will be a great batsman. Umar Akmal MAY become a Great some day. But Jamshed? Well, I don't think so.

Posted by applethief on (January 11, 2013, 17:37 GMT)

@ Harmony111 On the same article, you seem to do an inordinate amount of gloating over a 2-1 series loss and talk down the Pakistan players that dismantled India. What must you do when India actually win something, I can hardly imagine!

Posted by dcindia on (January 11, 2013, 17:28 GMT)

Amol Muzumder is still good enough. In fact, he is so good that even Harsha's fascination with "commentators' curse" will not work on him.

Posted by aravabalaji on (January 11, 2013, 17:22 GMT)

Comments on Amol Muzumdar shows the true color of Harsha. He has become a marketing man. He will market for Rohit, Raina et al but cares little for toilers like Amol, Jaffer, Kaif & Badri. His comments like 'Jaffer still scoring runs ..?', 'Badri will remain in domestic cricket for ever..' really smacks of cruelty rather than indifference. Sachin is older than Amol. Would he dare to comment on similar lines? Cricketers like Amol deserve respect and dignity. Just because their performances has not been acknowleged/recognised, you cannot rob them of their dignity.

Posted by bulldo on (January 11, 2013, 16:26 GMT)

True Harsha. during the 80's India used to relieve players to play ranji just like the Aussies do. there s no point in holding bacj Rohit Sharma and Pujara if they are not in the scheme of things.

Posted by daalien on (January 11, 2013, 14:37 GMT)

The way things are going with the national team and the state teams, the legacy of N Srinivasan as head honcho of BCCI is going to be the total destruction of cricket as a sport in India, except for IPL from which he and his private sector colleagues will earn a hefty profit. For all the lip service that he has paid to ensuring the sanctity of the game, his actions (or lack of actions) speak louder. Thank you, BCCI for bringing cricket to the level of hockey in India. (BTW, cricinfo never appears to like postings criticial of Srinivasan; I hope they will publish this).

Posted by 100_rabh on (January 11, 2013, 11:54 GMT)

So Muzumdar scoring runs in Ranji means domestic bowlers are useless!! A classic case of drawing right conclusion from a wrong example Harsha. M Hussey scored runs against Steyn and Co. but because he was 37 years old, those bowlers must be very ordinary. Harsha, you relate cricket to other walks of life and you are good in doing that but when it comes to technical aspects of the game, your having no FC experience is clearly reflected there.

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 11, 2013, 11:46 GMT)

@KiwiRocker: On another article you had made weird claims and I had challenged you to prove those. I gave you ample time to do it but you did not/could not do it.

You had claimed that inter alia 1. Ind won the WC 2011 cos dodgy balls were used there. 2. Sachin used his clout in early & mid 90s to prevent Ind-Pak cricket cos he was scared to face the Pak fast bowlers.

On being challenged to prove any of these you stopped replying to save face, in fact you did not make even a feeble attempt to prove your funny claims. You ran from that place and started commenting here so you can't give the excuse of lack of time now.

For ref, here is the place you ran away from: espncricinfo.com/india-v-pakistan-2012/content/story/599853.html

Anyone can go there and see it himself. Clearly, you are not honest and have bee caught and exposed making completely false claims.

Posted by chaitanya_t on (January 11, 2013, 11:11 GMT)

Extremely poor comment by Harsha on Muzumdar. On Sunday, he was saying the same about Wasim Jaffer. It has to be noted that Wasim Jaffer had a better test performance over his last 15 tests compared to Gambhir!. Muzumdar could not get a place only due to the strong indian batting line up at that time. Else anyday he is better than Raina and Sharma.

Posted by Paddle_Sweep on (January 11, 2013, 6:46 GMT)

It's such a bad comment about Amol Muzumdar. Instead of commending the spirit of the batsman for scoring tons of runs, Harsha says that it's due to poor bowling. Well it's the same poor bowling against which Rahane and SRT are scoring runs as well. So, why different judgement for different people? Well's it's another another 'Friday' article, so let's not take it seriously. Well Harsha, what you have to say about Rohit Sharma then? I don't see anyway by which he can break into this team as well in that middle order. So, why is he in the team then?

Posted by KiwiRocker- on (January 11, 2013, 6:26 GMT)

Harsha: Your comments about Muzumdar are uncalled for and totally out of line. Muzumdar has scored 11,000 runs and has an average of 49.60 in first class cricket. The fact man is scoring is because he is talented and should have played for india long ago. While, average players like Rohit Sharma and Suresh Raina keep getting chances, players like Muzumdar never had their chance. Muzumdar's case reflect the damage players like Tendulya have inflicted on Indian cricket by prolonging their selfish careers. Yuvraj Singh is a sitting duck against quality bowing on helpful wickets and a typical flat track bulley. Why is he still in team? He is given numuour chances in test teams but has regularly failed. So is case with Raina and so is case with Sharma. Gambhir has been pathetic for some time.Muzumdar is scoring because he is good. You are hyping Jiwanjot Singh who has not even scored 1000 runs in first class cricket. Same thing is being done to Bhuvnesh Kumar after 3 ODI's!

Posted by QingdaoXI on (January 11, 2013, 5:55 GMT)

Harsha he has get total 5 centuries in debut season out of that 3 are at mohali and two are daddy hundreds

Posted by InsideHedge on (January 11, 2013, 4:39 GMT)

Harsha, we the fans have been asking these questions for years. Look at how England handles their squads during their summer season. They keep the squads at a reasonable number and then immediately release the non-selected players on the morning of the match. The 12th man is ALWAYS a local player with outstanding fielding skills. Remember Gary Pratt in the 2005 Ashes?

It's clear that Indian cricket is run by men who have little or no knowledge of cricket. Even those that once played suddenly become incredibly ignorant as soon as they become part of the board. It's like entering a tunnel of doom with no light in sight!

Posted by Arachnodouche on (January 11, 2013, 4:20 GMT)

Amol Muzumdar was one of the shining lights on the domestic circuit fifteen years ago. He never got his chance for whatever reason but it reflects poorly on Bhogle to cast his recent runs in dubious light. Why is this BCCI shill allowed writing space anyway?

Posted by   on (January 11, 2013, 4:00 GMT)

To me if sehwag was axed , why not gauti ? gauti has always played a defensive game for the past 15 months.We could have seen some quick games here and there but,he didnt do anything superficial to sustain in the team.. he should be sent back to ranji... let pujara get a chance to hit the ODI colours!!

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