February 2, 2014

'TV does not always tell you the real story'

Pakistan's fielding coach, Julien Fountain, chats about the improvement under his watch and the challenges of training players to field under pressure
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How was it working with the Pakistan team?
It's been a fantastic experience working for one of the world's most respected cricket nations. We have covered a lot of miles in two years, technically, emotionally and in actual geographical terms!

What difference do you think you have made in the last two years?
Well, I can only repeat what has been said to me by opposition coaches, opposition players, the international cricket media, former international cricketers and other respected members of the international cricket community and that is: "Pakistan's fielding has really improved over the last two years." I think that says it all.

Pakistan's fielding hasn't enjoyed a great reputation in the past and we could safely assume they were not the best fielding side in the world. Is it still the case?
Firstly, whatever their reputation was in the past does not really concern me. I was hired to do a job, which I have done to the very best of my ability, given the many constraints involved with coaching Pakistan.

I would like to ask you a question, though: How exactly are you judging this so-called reputation, because if the reputation is based on factual evidence then fair enough, but if it is based purely on TV pundits and former players giving their views on things past and present, you really should remember that these guys are paid to entertain and there is nothing Pakistan fans like more than to hear how bad the team/player is and how they should be changed.

Also when a TV company puts a montage together to show "poor fielding" they do not always show the correct items, as the person editing the montage is not a professional coach, with a professional opinion on each particular incident. They are merely putting together a series of what they consider to be mistakes. TV does not always tell you the real story.

Where does the problem lie?
Fielding is all about attitude and technique. And you create the right attitude and learn your techniques when you are a young player (6-16 years old). Unfortunately, one of Pakistan's great strengths - street cricket - is also one of its weaknesses as it does not really allow a young cricketer to develop that fearless hunter-killer mentality that other teams such as South Africa, England, New Zealand and Australia have.

In all of these countries, children play a cross-section of sports such as soccer, rugby, hockey, tennis, basketball etc right from an early age. This helps them in a number of ways both technically and physically. For example if a child learns to dive with a rugby ball or tackle in soccer when they are eight or ten years old, then diving to stop a cricket ball is easy. But if they have never dived or done a sliding tackle, then they are nervous and afraid of injury. The national players do dive and slide, but they have had to learn these skills very late in life and find it tough to beat the fear. It is not an Asian thing either - look at Sri Lanka, they dive aggressively a lot. Incidentally, rugby is a very popular sport in Sri Lanka.

"If a player has not trained at a higher intensity, how will he cope when the games become high pressure?"

Do you think you have done enough to lift the standard of fielding at the top?
Yes, I have helped the national players compete against and "out-field" teams like Australia, England and South Africa on many occasions.

From a tiny snapshot of data I have collected, I have learnt that even though South Africa is supposedly a "far superior fielding team" Pakistan managed to save as many runs, if not more, than South Africa on a frequent basis. Do not be fooled by the fact that South Africa apparently dive more than Pakistan. The amounts of balls dived for, whether the fielder touched the ball or not, was usually similar. Yes, of course, Pakistan can get better, but then all teams could be better. But it is too easy to say, "Pakistan is a poor fielding team" as it's a cliche. I would humbly suggest that TV commentators check proper fielding statistics prior to making grandiose statements about which team is better on the field.

How comfortable were the players when it came to working with you?
Working with a national team is not as simple as creating a plan and following it. With the Pakistan team, as they are playing away from home 100% of the time, you have to constantly factor in travel time, facilities etc. We managed to achieve some good results in fielding, which helped win us games when other departments did not fire.

What in particular did you work on?
I tried to focus on the areas which need attention in any given format, without favouring or neglecting others. For example for T20s and ODIs we looked at diving and sliding, coupled with pairs-fielding, dynamic movement, aggression with tactics, psychology and stump hitting, without forgetting flat catching and boundary-rope catching and fielding.

How was it dealing with egos in the team?
Pakistan has no more or no less big stars than any other international cricket team. They are treated like superstars by the general public, but I deal with everybody equally, like it or hate it, I have a job to do, which is to improve team performance. The problems occur when others fail to handle these stars correctly and create soft corners for these players to hide in. I have over 17 years of international cricket coaching experience, and over 25 years of professional sports experience as both a coach and a player, so when my gut feeling is to praise a player, I praise them; when it is time for a bamboo [reprimand], they get a bamboo.

Was there a language barrier to overcome?
I have learnt enough Urdu to get by, and there are several players who can speak good English in the national team. However, yes, sometimes the language barrier could be used as an excuse for non-compliance, citing misunderstanding.

Did you ever get frustrated when players were not responding well in the field?
I would not be human if I did not get emotionally affected both by good and bad performance. Frustration usually occurred when there were needless mistakes, especially in crunch situations. A good example of this was during a T20 in Dubai when we failed to score 100 runs. That was a game when we simply could not afford any mistakes at all, and sure enough, we dropped catches and fumbled balls in the very first couple of overs. That is a good example of a game where our poor performance in another department affected our psychology badly and we were unable to get our heads back in the game. If a player has not trained at a higher intensity, how will he cope when the games become high pressure? Soft corners at training cause weaknesses in competition.

Were you able to work with coaches and younger players at the domestic level?
Unfortunately, due to our heavy overseas commitment, my time spent with other players and teams was a lot less than I would have liked. The Pakistan national team is only as strong as the players being selected from domestic cricket. If the standard of fielding skills (or batting or bowling, for that matter) are poor, then the player is a weak link upon his arrival into the senior team. Luckily I was able to spend a bit of time with the Under-19s and we ran a specialist fielding coach course to "up-skill" the coaches. However that is only of benefit if those coaches go on to pass the skills, techniques, tactics etc on to domestic players.

In Pakistan cricket, is fielding taken for granted?
Having seen how cricketers grow up playing street cricket, it is not surprising that fielding takes a very distant third place. However, using that as an excuse cannot be accepted. I proposed a series of initiatives to try to address things such as fielding skills in street and club cricket to help set some standards for young players. However, I am still waiting for the response.

Did you work with keepers?
Yes, I worked with all the keepers prior to July 2013, however once Moin Khan joined the team some of them preferred to take their keeping advice from a former international wicketkeeper and national captain, which is perfectly understandable. But I continued to help them whenever I got the opportunity.

What is the status of your contract with the PCB?
My contract expires at the end of February, so I am still based at the NCA until then. I am getting involved in the U-19s' pre-World Cup camp, which is fantastic as they are the future of Pakistan cricket. They were very talented when I worked with them previously, and I am looking forward to seeing them selected for the senior team soon. I only hope they have the same attitude as they do now!

Umar Farooq is ESPNcricinfo's Pakistan correspondent. He tweets here

Comments have now been closed for this article

  • on February 2, 2014, 10:19 GMT

    I think, it's the combination of attitude people have about fielding in Pakistan, also the dry/rough nature of the outfields, which makes it tough for players to attempt diving or sliding. Fielding has been taken for granted for many years, but I think the opinion has shifted and now people realize, how good fielding can not only help you save runs but potentially help you win matches. Kudos to Julian for his hard work and all the best for the future.

  • on February 2, 2014, 4:57 GMT

    Pakistan's ground fielding has actually improved over the last few years and credit must be given where it's due. They might not yet be on the same level or perfection enjoyed by other top fielding sides but the improvement in their fielding standards is clearly visible. I remember Saeed Ajmal's fielding used to be a massive liability in his early days (refer to the World T20 in 2010) but he is now a very safe fielder. The older guns like Misbah, Younis and Afridi haven't let age become a factor and still are very sharp fielders. Youngsters like Shehzad and Azhar bring lot of agility to the side now. Wicket keeping is one area that still needs a lot of polishing but over all fielding has been impressive under Julien. Even if we come to a level where we don't drop any catches and make sure no extra runs are conceded in the field, I think job well done. All the best to Julien for his future. I hope you enjoyed your stint with Pakistan!

  • on February 6, 2014, 20:43 GMT

    Julian you did a brilliant job with Pak team and thanks for making so much improvement in pak fielding. I would not pay any attention to the negative people, there are negative's everywhere no matter what you do, they maybe looking for job role for themselves ...also it is not easy to teach diving and sliding over 20 and 30 years old. That is a skill you can learn at early age which is not possible in Pakistan due to the non facilities of grassy grounds.

  • cricket_craze234 on February 5, 2014, 16:20 GMT

    At school level cricket I loved to dive in the field mostly because I occasionaly goal keep. But most of the grounds are so coarse and rough that diving may just be the end of you! The first match I played, I dived and well both my hands and elbows were bleeding. I dont think Ill ever dive again. Street cricket just does'nt allow you to dive even if you are willing to.

  • on February 4, 2014, 14:02 GMT

    the problem is facility available in Pakistan. I have played 7 years of club cricket and in those 7 years I dived once and after that i was all stuffedup with bandages and on bed for 5 days because we dont have grass covered grounds here. at the age of 25 if you ask me to fly even in the best ground in world I would never feel comfortable doing this

  • anwarma on February 4, 2014, 13:55 GMT

    Julien Fountain has a great job as a fielding coach. I hope he stays with Pakistan side.

  • 2929paul on February 3, 2014, 16:17 GMT

    Cricket is a multi faceted sport with THREE dimensions and professionals must embrace that. Fielding takes wickets and saves runs. In the recent Ashes series, Carberry's dropped catch in the second Test when Haddin was in single figures arguably lost them that Test as he went on to score a century. Australia, on the other hand, caught everything and applied pressure by stopping everything in the infield and giving England nothing.

    Coaches from grassroots up need to instil the importance of fielding. It can save your team 20-30 runs that could win a game in a tight match. It makes a bowler feel good when he gets away with a bad ball, and the batsman gets frustrated at missing out. Jonty Rhodes and Paul Collingwood became decent Test cricketers on the back of getting in the team because of their fantastic fielding and "reasonable" batting.

    As an England supporter I'd love to see Fountain as our new fielding coach.

  • on February 3, 2014, 3:31 GMT

    Thanks Julian i agree with you without any doubt Pakistani Fielding is very improved then before now catches drops and fumbles are very rare

  • Cric_fever_notgoingdown on February 3, 2014, 0:05 GMT

    i completely agree with julien on this no matter how much silly reporters sitting on tv blame our fielding time and time but i think our fielding standard has improved since he has been our fielding coach. i still think pcb should rehire him atleast till nxt wc15.....

  • on February 2, 2014, 18:42 GMT

    the importan point is that in sub continent I.e ind pak sl or bang fielding is never considered as the most important part of playing cricket as bowling or batting is cricketers are fielders by virtue , be it good or bad that is why worlds best cricket fielders are non asians time is right for the attitute around to change and hope we could deliver best of fielders as well

  • on February 2, 2014, 10:19 GMT

    I think, it's the combination of attitude people have about fielding in Pakistan, also the dry/rough nature of the outfields, which makes it tough for players to attempt diving or sliding. Fielding has been taken for granted for many years, but I think the opinion has shifted and now people realize, how good fielding can not only help you save runs but potentially help you win matches. Kudos to Julian for his hard work and all the best for the future.

  • on February 2, 2014, 4:57 GMT

    Pakistan's ground fielding has actually improved over the last few years and credit must be given where it's due. They might not yet be on the same level or perfection enjoyed by other top fielding sides but the improvement in their fielding standards is clearly visible. I remember Saeed Ajmal's fielding used to be a massive liability in his early days (refer to the World T20 in 2010) but he is now a very safe fielder. The older guns like Misbah, Younis and Afridi haven't let age become a factor and still are very sharp fielders. Youngsters like Shehzad and Azhar bring lot of agility to the side now. Wicket keeping is one area that still needs a lot of polishing but over all fielding has been impressive under Julien. Even if we come to a level where we don't drop any catches and make sure no extra runs are conceded in the field, I think job well done. All the best to Julien for his future. I hope you enjoyed your stint with Pakistan!

  • on February 6, 2014, 20:43 GMT

    Julian you did a brilliant job with Pak team and thanks for making so much improvement in pak fielding. I would not pay any attention to the negative people, there are negative's everywhere no matter what you do, they maybe looking for job role for themselves ...also it is not easy to teach diving and sliding over 20 and 30 years old. That is a skill you can learn at early age which is not possible in Pakistan due to the non facilities of grassy grounds.

  • cricket_craze234 on February 5, 2014, 16:20 GMT

    At school level cricket I loved to dive in the field mostly because I occasionaly goal keep. But most of the grounds are so coarse and rough that diving may just be the end of you! The first match I played, I dived and well both my hands and elbows were bleeding. I dont think Ill ever dive again. Street cricket just does'nt allow you to dive even if you are willing to.

  • on February 4, 2014, 14:02 GMT

    the problem is facility available in Pakistan. I have played 7 years of club cricket and in those 7 years I dived once and after that i was all stuffedup with bandages and on bed for 5 days because we dont have grass covered grounds here. at the age of 25 if you ask me to fly even in the best ground in world I would never feel comfortable doing this

  • anwarma on February 4, 2014, 13:55 GMT

    Julien Fountain has a great job as a fielding coach. I hope he stays with Pakistan side.

  • 2929paul on February 3, 2014, 16:17 GMT

    Cricket is a multi faceted sport with THREE dimensions and professionals must embrace that. Fielding takes wickets and saves runs. In the recent Ashes series, Carberry's dropped catch in the second Test when Haddin was in single figures arguably lost them that Test as he went on to score a century. Australia, on the other hand, caught everything and applied pressure by stopping everything in the infield and giving England nothing.

    Coaches from grassroots up need to instil the importance of fielding. It can save your team 20-30 runs that could win a game in a tight match. It makes a bowler feel good when he gets away with a bad ball, and the batsman gets frustrated at missing out. Jonty Rhodes and Paul Collingwood became decent Test cricketers on the back of getting in the team because of their fantastic fielding and "reasonable" batting.

    As an England supporter I'd love to see Fountain as our new fielding coach.

  • on February 3, 2014, 3:31 GMT

    Thanks Julian i agree with you without any doubt Pakistani Fielding is very improved then before now catches drops and fumbles are very rare

  • Cric_fever_notgoingdown on February 3, 2014, 0:05 GMT

    i completely agree with julien on this no matter how much silly reporters sitting on tv blame our fielding time and time but i think our fielding standard has improved since he has been our fielding coach. i still think pcb should rehire him atleast till nxt wc15.....

  • on February 2, 2014, 18:42 GMT

    the importan point is that in sub continent I.e ind pak sl or bang fielding is never considered as the most important part of playing cricket as bowling or batting is cricketers are fielders by virtue , be it good or bad that is why worlds best cricket fielders are non asians time is right for the attitute around to change and hope we could deliver best of fielders as well

  • Desihungama on February 2, 2014, 15:24 GMT

    Julien. Thank you for your services mate. The difference you made with this team is crystal clear in terms of fielding, players fitness and players ability to anticipate. We wish you good luck in your future endeavors. I hope you had enjoyed your food in Lahore and will carry warm memories from this land with you forever.

  • Sports4Youth on February 2, 2014, 13:09 GMT

    Last few years I did not see much difference in Pakistans fielding. Still they are the same, Sometimes good, sometimes bad and sometimes very bad. Also some players are good and some continue to be bad.

  • GermanPlayer on February 2, 2014, 12:08 GMT

    The only reason Pakistans fielding looks goodis because they have got young players fighting for their place in the team which makes them work hard. Once these guys are guaranteed a place, they will field just like other senior players. There is a reason why historically Pakistans fielding has not been good. Unless you chagne that, no julan fountain can change the fielding style.

  • Stark62 on February 2, 2014, 11:00 GMT

    He has done a fine and Pak have been able to out-field the likes SA in the recent series'.

    Although, Pak still lack sharpness in the slips and at times, aerial fielding has been a disappointment but ground fielding has improved.

    Overall, I think he should be retained.

  • riaz.m on February 2, 2014, 10:48 GMT

    "Where are the Pakistani equivalent of Amla, de Villiers, Collingwood,Anderson, Mark Waugh, Ponting, Dwayne Smith and many others even Azharuddin and Kapil dev and Tendulkarwere a very good fielders. None of these were born as great fielders!!

  • riaz.m on February 2, 2014, 10:41 GMT

    I can't say I have noticed any improvement in Pakistan fielding in the last couple of years and I didn't even know they had a specialist fielding coach. There was even Johny Rhodes as coach. But there is never any improvement in Pakistani fielding. Their catching generally remain poor to average with only occasional good fields every now and then. I recall Asif Iqbal as a very good fielder in the 70s and Afridi and Shoaib Mailk were good in patches but you don't see Pakistanis pulling off great catches,they are years behind others test nations (except Bangladesh perhaps). Diving/sliding around is not always necessary. They simply don't practice enough.....like someone said the more I practice the( better) luckier I get!!

  • on February 2, 2014, 10:36 GMT

    You are a Good Man Mr Fountain. Thank you for your services.

  • aks1987 on February 2, 2014, 5:40 GMT

    Well done Mr. Fountain. Good luck for your future endeavours.

  • on February 2, 2014, 5:16 GMT

    agreed with mr fountain he done a lot of hard work with youngsters and as a result pakistan`s feildind is imroved

  • on February 2, 2014, 5:16 GMT

    agreed with mr fountain he done a lot of hard work with youngsters and as a result pakistan`s feildind is imroved

  • aks1987 on February 2, 2014, 5:40 GMT

    Well done Mr. Fountain. Good luck for your future endeavours.

  • on February 2, 2014, 10:36 GMT

    You are a Good Man Mr Fountain. Thank you for your services.

  • riaz.m on February 2, 2014, 10:41 GMT

    I can't say I have noticed any improvement in Pakistan fielding in the last couple of years and I didn't even know they had a specialist fielding coach. There was even Johny Rhodes as coach. But there is never any improvement in Pakistani fielding. Their catching generally remain poor to average with only occasional good fields every now and then. I recall Asif Iqbal as a very good fielder in the 70s and Afridi and Shoaib Mailk were good in patches but you don't see Pakistanis pulling off great catches,they are years behind others test nations (except Bangladesh perhaps). Diving/sliding around is not always necessary. They simply don't practice enough.....like someone said the more I practice the( better) luckier I get!!

  • riaz.m on February 2, 2014, 10:48 GMT

    "Where are the Pakistani equivalent of Amla, de Villiers, Collingwood,Anderson, Mark Waugh, Ponting, Dwayne Smith and many others even Azharuddin and Kapil dev and Tendulkarwere a very good fielders. None of these were born as great fielders!!

  • Stark62 on February 2, 2014, 11:00 GMT

    He has done a fine and Pak have been able to out-field the likes SA in the recent series'.

    Although, Pak still lack sharpness in the slips and at times, aerial fielding has been a disappointment but ground fielding has improved.

    Overall, I think he should be retained.

  • GermanPlayer on February 2, 2014, 12:08 GMT

    The only reason Pakistans fielding looks goodis because they have got young players fighting for their place in the team which makes them work hard. Once these guys are guaranteed a place, they will field just like other senior players. There is a reason why historically Pakistans fielding has not been good. Unless you chagne that, no julan fountain can change the fielding style.

  • Sports4Youth on February 2, 2014, 13:09 GMT

    Last few years I did not see much difference in Pakistans fielding. Still they are the same, Sometimes good, sometimes bad and sometimes very bad. Also some players are good and some continue to be bad.

  • Desihungama on February 2, 2014, 15:24 GMT

    Julien. Thank you for your services mate. The difference you made with this team is crystal clear in terms of fielding, players fitness and players ability to anticipate. We wish you good luck in your future endeavors. I hope you had enjoyed your food in Lahore and will carry warm memories from this land with you forever.

  • on February 2, 2014, 18:42 GMT

    the importan point is that in sub continent I.e ind pak sl or bang fielding is never considered as the most important part of playing cricket as bowling or batting is cricketers are fielders by virtue , be it good or bad that is why worlds best cricket fielders are non asians time is right for the attitute around to change and hope we could deliver best of fielders as well