September 5, 2014

England's problems against spin

Unlike other teams which play spin better, England have lost too many wickets to slow bowlers in the middle overs, suggesting a riskier approach to scoring runs
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Eoin Morgan has struggled against spin in ODIs since the last World Cup, getting out to them 21 times in the middle overs © Getty Images

After being thrashed in the Test series, India have recovered remarkably to win the ODI series with a game to spare, and the performance of their spinners has been a big reason for this resurgence. In three ODIs, the Indian spinners have already taken more wickets than they did in five Tests: their ODI series stats read 17 wickets for 324 runs in 76.1 overs (average 19.05, economy rate 4.25); in the Tests they had figures of 14 for 617 in 219.3 overs (average 44.07). (England's spinners, on the other hand, have gone from 20 for 475 in the Tests to 3 for 169 from 34 overs in the ODIs.)

England's limp batting display against Ravindra Jadeja (7 for 106 in 27 overs) and R Ashwin (6 for 125 in 29.1 overs) has once again raised question marks about their ability to play spin in limited-overs cricket. In the Tests, with no urgency to score quickly, England's batsmen have been fine against spin, taking their time to settle in before opting for aggressive strokeplay. It also helped, of course, that India never had runs on the board in the last three Tests to allow their spinners to put pressure on England. However, with the focus being on quick scoring in the ODIs, England have struggled against spin, bringing this aspect of their cricket into focus again.

In ODIs played since the 2011 World Cup, England's batting average against spin is among the lowest, with only Zimbabwe and West Indies having done worse. England's average of 31.42 is significantly worse than those of New Zealand, Pakistan, Australia and India, who average around 40 runs per wicket. England's batsmen are clearly more comfortable when there's more pace on the ball - their average and run rate against the quicker bowlers are much better.

Spinners and fast bowlers v each team in ODIs since the 2011 World Cup
    Spinners Seamers
Versus Matches Wickets Average Econ rate Wickets Average Econ rate
Zimbabwe 38 114 30.53 4.60 159 26.26 4.36
West Indies 69 202 30.75 4.55 279 30.07 5.16
England 69 167 31.42 4.85 256 37.40 5.36
Bangladesh 45 108 32.29 4.42 210 26.89 4.99
Sri Lanka 99 230 33.60 4.64 434 30.85 5.25
South Africa 54 144 34.31 4.74 194 38.78 5.64
New Zealand 45 85 39.32 4.95 212 31.43 5.60
Pakistan 78 142 39.40 4.72 378 29.35 4.77
Australia 69 142 40.10 4.91 309 34.13 5.49
India 86 137 42.60 4.96 360 38.57 5.60

England's problems against spin tend to get magnified in the middle overs (between the 16th and 40th), when opposition teams tend to use slow bowlers to stifle the scoring rates. Batting teams prefer to use a relatively risk-free approach in these overs, and the template is to accumulate around to four to five runs an over without losing too many wickets during this period. Compared to other teams, England's run rate during this period is reasonably healthy - most of the teams in the table below are bunched at around 4.50 to 5.00 runs per over. However, the numbers below indicate that while other teams are able to do so without taking too many risks, England lose too many wickets in the process, thus also hurting their chances in the slog overs.

England have averaged 27.81 runs per wicket against spin in the middle overs since the last World Cup, which is easily the lowest among the top ten teams, lower even than Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and West Indies, who all average more than 30. England have lost 132 wickets to spin in the middle overs in 64 matches, which is an average of around two per innings; the teams which are on top in the table below lose around one wicket per innings. New Zealand, surprisingly, are on top of the table with a 50-plus average and a run rate of more than five, but that's also because they've played spin particularly well at home, averaging 64.11 at a rate of 5.26 in 18 games. In Sri Lanka and the West Indies, they've averaged 27.65 at a rate of 4.61 in ten games.

Australia and India are the other teams with 45-plus averages, and while their scoring rates aren't too different from England's, both these teams average less than 1.30 wickets per game to spin in the middle overs. England's problem has been their inability to score reasonably quickly while keeping their wickets in tact.

Teams against spinners in the middle overs (15.1-40) in ODIs since Apr 3, 2011
Team Inngs Wkts Average Run rate Dot %
New Zealand 42 45 51.53 5.02 47.76
Australia 64 83 46.67 4.86 49.83
India 83 92 45.78 4.82 48.92
Sri Lanka 95 146 38.35 4.58 50.08
Pakistan 76 105 38.14 4.70 50.70
South Africa 53 91 37.82 4.79 47.30
Zimbabwe 37 67 34.76 4.53 54.71
West Indies 67 132 31.87 4.57 58.19
Bangladesh 42 76 31.59 4.28 52.96
England 64 132 27.81 4.73 48.29

Eoin Morgan has been a key member of England's limited-overs side, and is likely to be a key player in the middle order for the World Cup as well. His overall numbers since the 2011 World Cup are impressive despite a recent poor run - 1597 runs at 38.95, and a strike rate of 92.79. However, he has been one of England's poorest batsmen against spin over the last 40 months. He has fallen to spinners 21 times in the middle overs, averaging 24.38. Of those 21 dismissals, 17 have been against right-arm spinners, and his average against them is 19.58. Ashwin has dismissed him four times in 43 balls, conceding just 26 runs, while JP Duminy, Saeed Ajmal and Sachithra Senanayake have all dismissed him twice each, in very few deliveries. Against faster bowlers, on the other hand, Morgan has done much better, averaging more than 57 while scoring at a similar as he does against spin.

Most of the other England batsmen don't have such a huge discrepancy in their records against spin and pace, though most of them score at a quicker rate against the faster bowlers.

England batsmen in the middle overs, v spin and seam
  v spin v seam
Batsman Dismissals Average Run rate Dismissals Average Run rate
Eoin Morgan 21 24.38 5.32 11 57.72 5.35
Ravi Bopara 11 30.45 4.42 14 32.85 5.24
Alastair Cook 11 41.09 5.22 10 31.90 5.40
Ian Bell 8 45.62 4.59 12 30.00 5.15
Joe Root 8 40.50 4.34 8 43.50 4.91
Ben Stokes 8 10.37 3.66 2 33.50 4.51
Jonathan Trott 7 56.00 4.48 8 65.12 5.15
Craig Kieswetter 6 24.16 4.60 1 56.00 4.36
Kevin Pietersen 6 42.16 5.00 4 31.00 6.64
Jos Buttler 4 32.75 4.01 8 29.25 7.16
Morgan against right- and left-arm spin in the middle overs (since Apr 3, 2011)
  Runs Balls Dismissals Average Runs/ over
Right-arm spin 333 380 17 19.58 5.25
Left-arm spin 179 197 4 44.75 5.45
Spinners who've dismissed Morgan most often in the middle overs (since Apr 3, 2011)
Bowler Runs Balls Dismissals Average Runs/ over
R Ashwin 26 43 4 6.50 3.62
JP Duminy 7 15 2 3.50 3.50
Saeed Ajmal 12 23 2 6.00 3.13
Sachithra Senanayake 14 23 2 7.00 3.65

If England's batsmen have struggled, then the opposition spinners have enjoyed bowling at them. In the ongoing series, Jadeja has taken seven wickets at an average of 15.14 and an economy rate of 3.92, while Ashwin has six at 20.83 and an economy rate of 4.28. In the middle overs of these three games, Jadeja has six wickets at 13.83, conceding just 3.95 runs per over, while Ashwin has four wickets at 23.50, going at 3.88 per over. Overall too, in the last ten years, these two bowlers have been the highest wicket-takers among spinners against England. On Friday, they will get one more opportunity to add to that tally.

Best spinners v England in ODIs in the last ten years
Bowler Matches Wickets Average Econ rate
Ravindra Jadeja 17 33 18.57 4.55
R Ashwin 19 31 23.96 4.81
Harbhajan Singh 13 24 21.33 4.26
Daniel Vettori 17 21 25.80 3.97
Saeed Ajmal 9 19 22.73 5.20

S Rajesh is stats editor of ESPNcricinfo. Follow him on Twitter

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  • Suicide-Note on September 5, 2014, 4:58 GMT

    Awesome stats as usual. Some of the interesting points. 1. Contrary to popular believe India is doing pretty pretty well against pace. With average 38.60 per wicket and an run rate of 5.60. (2nd best after South Africa)

    2. Again contrary to popular believe Aussies averages 40+ against spin only second best after India (traditionally the best players of spin)

    3. New Zeland averages highest 51.53 at an run rate of 5.02 and 2nd lowest dot ball percentage (also the highest) against spinner between 15-40 overs against spinners. It reflects middle order trio of Williamson-Taylor and McCullum (no 3,4,5 of Kiwi line up) has really evolved into genuine one day experts .

    Thanks for the stats again which shows India's inability against pace and NZ and Australia's inability against spin are only myths atleast in 50 over format.

  • Dilmah82 on September 6, 2014, 1:29 GMT

    Based on these figures, you wonder if Morgan should be up the order at 3? I know he is regarded as great finisher, but now there is some power down there with the likes of Butler to do this.

  • Gowers_Great_Tiger_Moth_Flyby on September 5, 2014, 15:24 GMT

    @ minhaj Ahmed rinku

    Were you asleep during England's last trip to India 2012/2013 when they won the test series convincingly?

  • Gowers_Great_Tiger_Moth_Flyby on September 5, 2014, 15:21 GMT

    England can't play spin and they also can't play fast bowling either. That just leaves medium pace...

  • B.C.G on September 5, 2014, 14:03 GMT

    @Suicide-note:Australia's stats v/s spin are influenced by them playing lots of matches on HOME pitches which don't aid spin.Offcourse they WC will be held here itself so no worries.They also struggled v/s Zimbabwean spinners recently.Same goes for Indian batsmen who were pathetic on swinging NZ & SAfrican pitches. @ygkd-Excellent post.

  • Captainman on September 5, 2014, 8:57 GMT

    These stats don't actually prove much. New Zealand are very high on this list? everyone knows they are the worst team of spin especially when its spinning. They flop in subcontinent conditions against all teams otherwise base on that spin stat along with seam above, they should be ranked in the top 3 of the rankings. Also do not forget most one-day games today are played on batting friendly surfaces so these stats don't tell the whole story. What these stats tell you is how teams go about playing spin/pace during the course of an ODI innings, not how they can and cannot handle spin/pace.

    Pitches in Australia, South Africa and New Zealand are not conducive to spin hence far easier for the batsman there to play spin so again these stats don't really tell the exact story.

  • Romanticstud on September 5, 2014, 7:51 GMT

    Thanks Rajesh for the stats - adding to the featured comment by @Suicide Note, I would like to add a few things:

    1) The fact that South Africa have the best figures against pace is purely because their pitches are conditioned to suit their pace-orientated attack of Steyn, Morkel, Tsotsobe, Parnell among others.

    2) The fact that South Africa have the best dot ball percentage among the teams has shown how Amla, De Villiers, Du Plessis and Duminy have rotated the strike in the middle overs better although they have lost crucial wickets against spin in the middle overs to put them only mid-table.

    3) India have the best statistical average of all the teams of 37.45 from 86 games clearly the best with a w/l ratio of 1.72 at 5.5 an over second is South Africa and third Australia ...

    As mentioned I agree about the myths being exposed ... India look like they have a good chance to defend their title in Australia/New Zealand.

  • ygkd on September 5, 2014, 7:45 GMT

    Australia's inability against spin is not necessarily myth at all. It just depends on who is batting in the middle overs (is Clarke, that excellent player of the turning ball, batting?), what sort of spinner is bowling (is it a typically accurate limited overs non-turner or spot-dropper?) and what sort of pitch it is (is it a limited overs flat track?). Get others in on turning tracks against quality spin and the idea of Australia's inability against spin is less of a myth and more of a reality. Statistics - only as good as the context. Yet, I'll give another statistic or two. Zimbabwe scores faster against slow bowling than it does against pace in ODIs and averages more at the same time. Tick. Pakistan scores just as quickly against spin as it does against pace while averaging more. Tick. Australia, on the other hand, may average better against slow bowling in ODIs, but it does so by curtailing the run rate by over half a run per over. Does that caution justify a tick of approval?

  • on September 5, 2014, 5:44 GMT

    We would love to see how England performs in Test on Indian soil. England have shown weakness on handling spin bowling in ODIs so in order to eliminate this fear they must appoint a renowned Indian former ex-spinner as their coach.

  • trigga315 on September 5, 2014, 5:14 GMT

    I think one of the the most important things about those numbers is that from the 'England batsmen in the middle overs, v spin and seam table' and multiply average by runs per over then the players that are in 1st and 3rd are Trott and Pietersen. These two who have both possibly played their final ODI for England and then 2nd and 4th on that list are both severely out of form as Bell has been dropped and Cook hasn't been lasting till the 15th over this year.

  • Suicide-Note on September 5, 2014, 4:58 GMT

    Awesome stats as usual. Some of the interesting points. 1. Contrary to popular believe India is doing pretty pretty well against pace. With average 38.60 per wicket and an run rate of 5.60. (2nd best after South Africa)

    2. Again contrary to popular believe Aussies averages 40+ against spin only second best after India (traditionally the best players of spin)

    3. New Zeland averages highest 51.53 at an run rate of 5.02 and 2nd lowest dot ball percentage (also the highest) against spinner between 15-40 overs against spinners. It reflects middle order trio of Williamson-Taylor and McCullum (no 3,4,5 of Kiwi line up) has really evolved into genuine one day experts .

    Thanks for the stats again which shows India's inability against pace and NZ and Australia's inability against spin are only myths atleast in 50 over format.

  • Dilmah82 on September 6, 2014, 1:29 GMT

    Based on these figures, you wonder if Morgan should be up the order at 3? I know he is regarded as great finisher, but now there is some power down there with the likes of Butler to do this.

  • Gowers_Great_Tiger_Moth_Flyby on September 5, 2014, 15:24 GMT

    @ minhaj Ahmed rinku

    Were you asleep during England's last trip to India 2012/2013 when they won the test series convincingly?

  • Gowers_Great_Tiger_Moth_Flyby on September 5, 2014, 15:21 GMT

    England can't play spin and they also can't play fast bowling either. That just leaves medium pace...

  • B.C.G on September 5, 2014, 14:03 GMT

    @Suicide-note:Australia's stats v/s spin are influenced by them playing lots of matches on HOME pitches which don't aid spin.Offcourse they WC will be held here itself so no worries.They also struggled v/s Zimbabwean spinners recently.Same goes for Indian batsmen who were pathetic on swinging NZ & SAfrican pitches. @ygkd-Excellent post.

  • Captainman on September 5, 2014, 8:57 GMT

    These stats don't actually prove much. New Zealand are very high on this list? everyone knows they are the worst team of spin especially when its spinning. They flop in subcontinent conditions against all teams otherwise base on that spin stat along with seam above, they should be ranked in the top 3 of the rankings. Also do not forget most one-day games today are played on batting friendly surfaces so these stats don't tell the whole story. What these stats tell you is how teams go about playing spin/pace during the course of an ODI innings, not how they can and cannot handle spin/pace.

    Pitches in Australia, South Africa and New Zealand are not conducive to spin hence far easier for the batsman there to play spin so again these stats don't really tell the exact story.

  • Romanticstud on September 5, 2014, 7:51 GMT

    Thanks Rajesh for the stats - adding to the featured comment by @Suicide Note, I would like to add a few things:

    1) The fact that South Africa have the best figures against pace is purely because their pitches are conditioned to suit their pace-orientated attack of Steyn, Morkel, Tsotsobe, Parnell among others.

    2) The fact that South Africa have the best dot ball percentage among the teams has shown how Amla, De Villiers, Du Plessis and Duminy have rotated the strike in the middle overs better although they have lost crucial wickets against spin in the middle overs to put them only mid-table.

    3) India have the best statistical average of all the teams of 37.45 from 86 games clearly the best with a w/l ratio of 1.72 at 5.5 an over second is South Africa and third Australia ...

    As mentioned I agree about the myths being exposed ... India look like they have a good chance to defend their title in Australia/New Zealand.

  • ygkd on September 5, 2014, 7:45 GMT

    Australia's inability against spin is not necessarily myth at all. It just depends on who is batting in the middle overs (is Clarke, that excellent player of the turning ball, batting?), what sort of spinner is bowling (is it a typically accurate limited overs non-turner or spot-dropper?) and what sort of pitch it is (is it a limited overs flat track?). Get others in on turning tracks against quality spin and the idea of Australia's inability against spin is less of a myth and more of a reality. Statistics - only as good as the context. Yet, I'll give another statistic or two. Zimbabwe scores faster against slow bowling than it does against pace in ODIs and averages more at the same time. Tick. Pakistan scores just as quickly against spin as it does against pace while averaging more. Tick. Australia, on the other hand, may average better against slow bowling in ODIs, but it does so by curtailing the run rate by over half a run per over. Does that caution justify a tick of approval?

  • on September 5, 2014, 5:44 GMT

    We would love to see how England performs in Test on Indian soil. England have shown weakness on handling spin bowling in ODIs so in order to eliminate this fear they must appoint a renowned Indian former ex-spinner as their coach.

  • trigga315 on September 5, 2014, 5:14 GMT

    I think one of the the most important things about those numbers is that from the 'England batsmen in the middle overs, v spin and seam table' and multiply average by runs per over then the players that are in 1st and 3rd are Trott and Pietersen. These two who have both possibly played their final ODI for England and then 2nd and 4th on that list are both severely out of form as Bell has been dropped and Cook hasn't been lasting till the 15th over this year.

  • trigga315 on September 5, 2014, 5:14 GMT

    I think one of the the most important things about those numbers is that from the 'England batsmen in the middle overs, v spin and seam table' and multiply average by runs per over then the players that are in 1st and 3rd are Trott and Pietersen. These two who have both possibly played their final ODI for England and then 2nd and 4th on that list are both severely out of form as Bell has been dropped and Cook hasn't been lasting till the 15th over this year.

  • on September 5, 2014, 5:44 GMT

    We would love to see how England performs in Test on Indian soil. England have shown weakness on handling spin bowling in ODIs so in order to eliminate this fear they must appoint a renowned Indian former ex-spinner as their coach.

  • ygkd on September 5, 2014, 7:45 GMT

    Australia's inability against spin is not necessarily myth at all. It just depends on who is batting in the middle overs (is Clarke, that excellent player of the turning ball, batting?), what sort of spinner is bowling (is it a typically accurate limited overs non-turner or spot-dropper?) and what sort of pitch it is (is it a limited overs flat track?). Get others in on turning tracks against quality spin and the idea of Australia's inability against spin is less of a myth and more of a reality. Statistics - only as good as the context. Yet, I'll give another statistic or two. Zimbabwe scores faster against slow bowling than it does against pace in ODIs and averages more at the same time. Tick. Pakistan scores just as quickly against spin as it does against pace while averaging more. Tick. Australia, on the other hand, may average better against slow bowling in ODIs, but it does so by curtailing the run rate by over half a run per over. Does that caution justify a tick of approval?

  • Romanticstud on September 5, 2014, 7:51 GMT

    Thanks Rajesh for the stats - adding to the featured comment by @Suicide Note, I would like to add a few things:

    1) The fact that South Africa have the best figures against pace is purely because their pitches are conditioned to suit their pace-orientated attack of Steyn, Morkel, Tsotsobe, Parnell among others.

    2) The fact that South Africa have the best dot ball percentage among the teams has shown how Amla, De Villiers, Du Plessis and Duminy have rotated the strike in the middle overs better although they have lost crucial wickets against spin in the middle overs to put them only mid-table.

    3) India have the best statistical average of all the teams of 37.45 from 86 games clearly the best with a w/l ratio of 1.72 at 5.5 an over second is South Africa and third Australia ...

    As mentioned I agree about the myths being exposed ... India look like they have a good chance to defend their title in Australia/New Zealand.

  • Captainman on September 5, 2014, 8:57 GMT

    These stats don't actually prove much. New Zealand are very high on this list? everyone knows they are the worst team of spin especially when its spinning. They flop in subcontinent conditions against all teams otherwise base on that spin stat along with seam above, they should be ranked in the top 3 of the rankings. Also do not forget most one-day games today are played on batting friendly surfaces so these stats don't tell the whole story. What these stats tell you is how teams go about playing spin/pace during the course of an ODI innings, not how they can and cannot handle spin/pace.

    Pitches in Australia, South Africa and New Zealand are not conducive to spin hence far easier for the batsman there to play spin so again these stats don't really tell the exact story.

  • B.C.G on September 5, 2014, 14:03 GMT

    @Suicide-note:Australia's stats v/s spin are influenced by them playing lots of matches on HOME pitches which don't aid spin.Offcourse they WC will be held here itself so no worries.They also struggled v/s Zimbabwean spinners recently.Same goes for Indian batsmen who were pathetic on swinging NZ & SAfrican pitches. @ygkd-Excellent post.

  • Gowers_Great_Tiger_Moth_Flyby on September 5, 2014, 15:21 GMT

    England can't play spin and they also can't play fast bowling either. That just leaves medium pace...

  • Gowers_Great_Tiger_Moth_Flyby on September 5, 2014, 15:24 GMT

    @ minhaj Ahmed rinku

    Were you asleep during England's last trip to India 2012/2013 when they won the test series convincingly?

  • Dilmah82 on September 6, 2014, 1:29 GMT

    Based on these figures, you wonder if Morgan should be up the order at 3? I know he is regarded as great finisher, but now there is some power down there with the likes of Butler to do this.

  • Suicide-Note on September 5, 2014, 4:58 GMT

    Awesome stats as usual. Some of the interesting points. 1. Contrary to popular believe India is doing pretty pretty well against pace. With average 38.60 per wicket and an run rate of 5.60. (2nd best after South Africa)

    2. Again contrary to popular believe Aussies averages 40+ against spin only second best after India (traditionally the best players of spin)

    3. New Zeland averages highest 51.53 at an run rate of 5.02 and 2nd lowest dot ball percentage (also the highest) against spinner between 15-40 overs against spinners. It reflects middle order trio of Williamson-Taylor and McCullum (no 3,4,5 of Kiwi line up) has really evolved into genuine one day experts .

    Thanks for the stats again which shows India's inability against pace and NZ and Australia's inability against spin are only myths atleast in 50 over format.