Pakistan v South Africa, 4th ODI, Abu Dhabi November 7, 2013

Misbah laments 'same old story' with Pakistan batting

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Pakistan captain Misbah-ul-Haq has again asked for improvement from his batsmen after his team lost the third ODI to South Africa by 68 runs in Abu Dhabi to trail the five-match series 1-2.

Pakistan were chasing 260, the highest score of the series so far, and floundered to another total under 200. After a top-and middle-order collapse, they were struggling at 116 for 7 and could have been dismissed for a total much lower than 191 had it not been for a 61-run stand between Wahab Riaz and Sohail Tanvir for the eighth wicket.

"It's the same old story," Misbah said. "I think we need to think about our batting if we want to save the series. Our batsmen get starts but are not able to convert them into big scores, and we all have to think that 20s and 30s are not going to win matches for us."

In the first ODI in Dubai, Pakistan were chasing a modest 183 and were well in control at 165 for 4 in the 41st over, needing another 19 runs from nine overs. However, Lonwabo Tsotsobe and Imran Tahir didn't let any batsman score in double digits after No. 6 Umar Akmal to make Pakistan fall short by one run.

"I don't have an answer and as professionals when we get set we must take it further," Misbah said. "We need to score at least 250 against a team like South Africa to beat them."

Pakistan have had a troublesome 2013 in ODIs starting from the tour of South Africa and the Champions Trophy in England. They crossed 250 only thrice this year in 12 innings in which they batted first, once against Ireland and twice against Zimbabwe. And only once have they scored more than 300 in 24 ODIs this year.

The fourth ODI will be in Abu Dhabi again, a must-win match for Pakistan, before the series ends in Sharjah on November 11.

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  • Fan_of_test_cricket on November 8, 2013, 15:17 GMT

    What would Pakistan do without Misbah? People, give him the respect and appreciation he deserves. It is quite easy to suggest changing the captain and keeping him out of the team, but there is no one currently of his calibre to lead the team.

    To me, Misbah is one of the most resilient and admirable cricketers there have ever been. Sadly, he only stands out when the rest of the Pak team fails. One of the most underrated cricketers for sure.

  • IAS2009 on November 8, 2013, 15:14 GMT

    pakistan need new captain with new blood in batting, new batsman with old poor captaincy is not gong to get them over hump, Misbah is defensive captain, he waits for things to happen, don't think out of box, takes too many balls to get in, this puts more pressure on batsman, under his leadership Nasir Jamshed and has gone to worse, he lost his natural game, Ahmed Shehzad and Asad shafiq going on same path, these guys are loosing their natural games and become blockers, don't even rotate srike (this was never part of pakistan team, they were always runners). Misbah averages are misleading, Pakistan lost too many games for one game won because of Misbah's batting and leadership.

  • Fogu on November 8, 2013, 14:10 GMT

    It is amazing to see one batsmen perform consistently and 7 others fail miserably yet some fans point to that performing batsmen and say he is the problem. If 2/3 palyers in every match stand up besides Misbah and score well, PK would have much better winning percentage. Misbah is amazing in the way he handles this nonsensical criticism and goes about his business. I am sure it affects him but he never displays it. What a player. Cosummate profesional. PK needs more from the 1st four batsmen in the line up. They should bring Younis back. He provides the backbone along with Misbah that the young guns lack.

  • imranmujtaba on November 8, 2013, 12:28 GMT

    Pak players morale is down - Pakistan have to positive and should introduce and give opportunity to talented players. Get rid of Misbah, Misbah can not lead Pak team from the front as always put Pak team with his batting - his captaincy is very poor, it always appear that their 5/6 captain when fielding and no respect seen. When Misbah Score Pak always losses, whether it was t20WC final against India, or ODI WC semi final against India or any other game. Misbah is proven match loser! Pakistan has to think positive, make changes, send umar early, afridi in middle and let them take responsibility. They are capable players - we underestimate them and destroying them.

  • on November 8, 2013, 10:22 GMT

    y khan should be brought back into the side he is very lively how can one keep him out of 11

  • pak_fan11 on November 8, 2013, 10:15 GMT

    pakistan players are lacking confidence, people criticizing misbah, with out him pakistan will score less then 150 in 9 out of 10 matches and 300+ in one and this is not the way. There should be at least one player in team like misbah which can always help you in crises. Afridi need to give up his ego and try to watch the ball for at least few overs after he gets in, he dont have any excuse now because every time he came in there were plenty of overs left for him and he still goes for big shot in starting. Razzaq should have been there because un like afridi he first settles on tbe pitch and then starts firing, donno where is imran nazir. i hope they win today good luck to pakistan.

  • imranmujtaba on November 8, 2013, 9:21 GMT

    Misbah is weakest link in the team. His tuk tuk and defensive approach is destroying the team. when will Misbah learn that single double is part of the game? worse Captain and middle order batsman in history of Pakistan Cricket. His selfish batting line up his only helping him to maintain high avg but desroying talent like Umar Akmal - Umar Akmal is only one who took world best bowling apart - U Akmal is best in new young generation but he is detroyed by captain and poor team manangement. He is always kept at 6/7. Why? Misbah existance will only take Pakistan down hill. Misbah has destroyed Pakistan team spirit - in last 5-6 months it appears every one is playing there own game not for a team or Pakistan.

  • Nabeell on November 8, 2013, 9:15 GMT

    Going too defensive is hurting Pakistan badly, playing Sohail Tanvir and Wahad Riaz is really a pathetic decision. I strongly believe that Pakistan should bring in Razzaq and Younis Khan back and also use Umer Akmal as a wicket keeper to help build team. Start from upper order, experiment with upper order and once Pak have a good opening pair they should focus on All Rounders and middle order, as of now they need to play experience in Middle Order and all rounders like Afridi, Hafeez and Razzaq should stay to support with experience.

  • Romanticstud on November 8, 2013, 9:15 GMT

    If Misbah retires Pakistan have 1/2 batsman ... Shahid ... 1/2 because he only fires half the time ...

  • on November 8, 2013, 8:44 GMT

    The best way to solve the batting crisis is to promote batsman like ashad shafiq to open the batting always the opening slots should be given to the best batsman in the team my top three would be shafiq shehzad and Misbah atleast these batsman occupy the crease and will bring stability with other batsman coming low down the order finish the game especially umar akmal can't keep blaming the system work with the talent u have

  • Fan_of_test_cricket on November 8, 2013, 15:17 GMT

    What would Pakistan do without Misbah? People, give him the respect and appreciation he deserves. It is quite easy to suggest changing the captain and keeping him out of the team, but there is no one currently of his calibre to lead the team.

    To me, Misbah is one of the most resilient and admirable cricketers there have ever been. Sadly, he only stands out when the rest of the Pak team fails. One of the most underrated cricketers for sure.

  • IAS2009 on November 8, 2013, 15:14 GMT

    pakistan need new captain with new blood in batting, new batsman with old poor captaincy is not gong to get them over hump, Misbah is defensive captain, he waits for things to happen, don't think out of box, takes too many balls to get in, this puts more pressure on batsman, under his leadership Nasir Jamshed and has gone to worse, he lost his natural game, Ahmed Shehzad and Asad shafiq going on same path, these guys are loosing their natural games and become blockers, don't even rotate srike (this was never part of pakistan team, they were always runners). Misbah averages are misleading, Pakistan lost too many games for one game won because of Misbah's batting and leadership.

  • Fogu on November 8, 2013, 14:10 GMT

    It is amazing to see one batsmen perform consistently and 7 others fail miserably yet some fans point to that performing batsmen and say he is the problem. If 2/3 palyers in every match stand up besides Misbah and score well, PK would have much better winning percentage. Misbah is amazing in the way he handles this nonsensical criticism and goes about his business. I am sure it affects him but he never displays it. What a player. Cosummate profesional. PK needs more from the 1st four batsmen in the line up. They should bring Younis back. He provides the backbone along with Misbah that the young guns lack.

  • imranmujtaba on November 8, 2013, 12:28 GMT

    Pak players morale is down - Pakistan have to positive and should introduce and give opportunity to talented players. Get rid of Misbah, Misbah can not lead Pak team from the front as always put Pak team with his batting - his captaincy is very poor, it always appear that their 5/6 captain when fielding and no respect seen. When Misbah Score Pak always losses, whether it was t20WC final against India, or ODI WC semi final against India or any other game. Misbah is proven match loser! Pakistan has to think positive, make changes, send umar early, afridi in middle and let them take responsibility. They are capable players - we underestimate them and destroying them.

  • on November 8, 2013, 10:22 GMT

    y khan should be brought back into the side he is very lively how can one keep him out of 11

  • pak_fan11 on November 8, 2013, 10:15 GMT

    pakistan players are lacking confidence, people criticizing misbah, with out him pakistan will score less then 150 in 9 out of 10 matches and 300+ in one and this is not the way. There should be at least one player in team like misbah which can always help you in crises. Afridi need to give up his ego and try to watch the ball for at least few overs after he gets in, he dont have any excuse now because every time he came in there were plenty of overs left for him and he still goes for big shot in starting. Razzaq should have been there because un like afridi he first settles on tbe pitch and then starts firing, donno where is imran nazir. i hope they win today good luck to pakistan.

  • imranmujtaba on November 8, 2013, 9:21 GMT

    Misbah is weakest link in the team. His tuk tuk and defensive approach is destroying the team. when will Misbah learn that single double is part of the game? worse Captain and middle order batsman in history of Pakistan Cricket. His selfish batting line up his only helping him to maintain high avg but desroying talent like Umar Akmal - Umar Akmal is only one who took world best bowling apart - U Akmal is best in new young generation but he is detroyed by captain and poor team manangement. He is always kept at 6/7. Why? Misbah existance will only take Pakistan down hill. Misbah has destroyed Pakistan team spirit - in last 5-6 months it appears every one is playing there own game not for a team or Pakistan.

  • Nabeell on November 8, 2013, 9:15 GMT

    Going too defensive is hurting Pakistan badly, playing Sohail Tanvir and Wahad Riaz is really a pathetic decision. I strongly believe that Pakistan should bring in Razzaq and Younis Khan back and also use Umer Akmal as a wicket keeper to help build team. Start from upper order, experiment with upper order and once Pak have a good opening pair they should focus on All Rounders and middle order, as of now they need to play experience in Middle Order and all rounders like Afridi, Hafeez and Razzaq should stay to support with experience.

  • Romanticstud on November 8, 2013, 9:15 GMT

    If Misbah retires Pakistan have 1/2 batsman ... Shahid ... 1/2 because he only fires half the time ...

  • on November 8, 2013, 8:44 GMT

    The best way to solve the batting crisis is to promote batsman like ashad shafiq to open the batting always the opening slots should be given to the best batsman in the team my top three would be shafiq shehzad and Misbah atleast these batsman occupy the crease and will bring stability with other batsman coming low down the order finish the game especially umar akmal can't keep blaming the system work with the talent u have

  • Ray24 on November 8, 2013, 8:39 GMT

    Pakistan need to make some adjustments in the final two games. Open with Shehzad and Jamshed. Keep giving him further chances as he has the temperament to score big. Misbah should come in at one down and Shafiq at two down. Shafiq should be allowed to play ODI's so his game can develop further - he is by far the best Pakistani batsman despite the way in which management has been dealing with him. Instead of Umar Amin, they should try Sohaib Maqsood. Hafeez should bat at 7 and Afridi at 8, with either of Junaid, Wahab or Tanvir at 9. I'd go with Junaid as he has a heart of a lion and served Pakistan unselfishly.

  • Cricket_Man on November 8, 2013, 7:42 GMT

    Pakistan batting lineup is in crisis just like a person smeared with blood. In such times the first priority is to stop the bleeding. I agree that the system is flawed but it can not be changed to win the next match as it is a long term thing. This system has been prevalent since Pakistan started playing cricket but still Pakistan produced batting greats like Hanif Mohammad, Zaheer Abbas, Majid Khan, Mohsin Khan, Javed Miandad, Inzamam and Yousuf. Currently there are two issues which I think are causing problems for Pakistani batsman. One being that the batsmen can't differentiate between being over confident and being fearless. Initially they are over confident and after failiing once or twice they become under confident. But in fact they only need to be fearless which they never are. The second thing is that apart from the openers and Misbah, every batsman is batting at the wrong number.

  • on November 8, 2013, 7:22 GMT

    @dannymania: in this series misbah got out early 3 times. 1 st match 19 off 55. misbah got out when 49 required of 100 balls,

    2nd game misbah got out again in 27th over. left 23 overs for others but what was the result? thanks to some lower order hitting we barely crosses 200. in 3 rd game sohail and wahab again showed that if you stay you can make runs. misbah was out early but what happened after that. they were117/8 before sohail and wahab. i do agree with your logic about him but putting it all on him is not right. hafeez is almost out every time before misbah comes in so how can he effect him?

    plus the stat you state shows another thing and supporting the rumors in media and by some ex players about grouping that in all those matches hafeez played well. i think problem is that no body is taking responsibility. everybody chips in and think they are safe for some more matches and thats it.

  • Chaudry_Cricket on November 8, 2013, 7:07 GMT

    @Sahir Javed ... I used the term "bradmanesque averages" as an expression of frustation in the sense that sooner or later they will make comebacks into the national team (well Malik already has) ... Hope that clears up my "lie" for you.

  • bbmm on November 8, 2013, 6:42 GMT

    pleasr Misbah salect Nazir he is far far better strok player than other's give confident to him he would prove himself he could play many match winning innings for pak...

  • Pakistan_Foreva on November 8, 2013, 5:01 GMT

    Shoaib Maqsood, Babar Azam, Sharjeel Khan, Azhar Ali, please look at these player profiles in the Pakistan player database and see that how their batting averages are 50+ in limited overs matches. Now please tell me why none of them are in the pak team and people with VERY ordinary averages in limited overs cricket (not even 40 runs a game) like Nasir Jamshed, Hafeez, and the latest craze Umar Amin (who for God Knows what reason is already being touted as the next captain of pakistan).

    Look at the bowling statistics of Sadaf Hussain and Bilawal Bhatti and compare them with Riaz and Tanvir, what is the justifcation of these below average bowlers to be in the Pak team, a team which always had the reputation of producing the best fast bowlers on earth? I mean I know averages dont tell the whole story but there's got to be a limit with this deliberate overlooking of talented and more deserving players.

  • Fanatic_cricko on November 8, 2013, 4:36 GMT

    Politics killing pakistan cricket. See a world class batsman like Younis Khan side lined at the expense of losy Umar Amin. Umar Amin should play in Pak-A, not in the main team. Same goes will class of Razzak and Azhar. Why not Fuad, Shoaib as stand by?Nasir Jamshed should open with Shehjad, For the sake of improving in ODI, they have to take Misbah out and keep him only in Test matches. He is brilliant on that, no doubt.

  • PlayfromDallas on November 8, 2013, 3:22 GMT

    Their poor batting is about their weak mindset; they just cannot bat it has noting to do with domestic setup. The same setup is producing world-class bowlers moreover these batsmen in Pakistan play the same home gown world-class bowlers while trying to make it to the International cricket. The most hurtful thing in Pakistan cricket is not the setup but it is the dirty lobby, poor dead wickets, and of course regional bias.

  • on November 8, 2013, 3:13 GMT

    @ Chaudry_Cricket, you are making a good point about problems at grass root level. BUT don't make huge claims with no backing. You mentioned that "likes of Farhat, Malik, K Akmal, Nazir etc have bradmanesque averages". Are you kidding me? They all have averages ranging from 35 to 45 WHICH BY NO STANDARDS CAN BE CONSIDERED "BRADMANESQUE AVERAGE" please don't lie when you are making a good point.

  • SamRoy on November 8, 2013, 3:06 GMT

    Except for Asad Shafiq in test cricket (he doesn't rotate strike so is not too suitable for ODIs) I am yet to see one solid batsman come out of Pakistan in the last five years. Umer Akmal is very talented but he plays the ball in the air way too often (very similar to a very young Michael Clarke). Pakistan's batsman have less talent and ability than Bangladesh batsman and I am not joking. Scoring runs against some club-quality medium pacers from India (like Vinay Kumar, Ashok Dinda, Ishant Sharma and a few more) doesn't make you an international quality batsman (as in the case of Jamshed, Hafeez and Shoaib Malik). It makes you a bully of bad bowlers. Any decent first class batsman can do that. Jamshed still has some talent unlike the other two.

  • on November 8, 2013, 2:09 GMT

    how could you drop jamshed and keep hafeez in the 11...the team should be jamshed, shehzad, azhar Ali, umer akmal , misbah, afridi, junaid, irfan,babar, another spinner

  • Chaudry_Cricket on November 7, 2013, 23:08 GMT

    Lets be honest the problem is at our grass - root levels we have a inept domestic structure where the likes of Farhat, Malik, K Akmal, Nazir etc have bradmanesque averages. Not till we adress our domestic cricket issues, school cricket, club cricket we will continue to witness these collapses and inability to chase anything that is 180 and above. Simples.

  • Dannymania on November 7, 2013, 22:18 GMT

    The most interesting thing is, that if u click the "Crossing 250 in 2013" LIST, u'll see that Misbah got out in most of those matches without scoring runs.Hafeez played well in most of those matches.This clearly means that pakistan score well when they play attacking cricket and Misbah is not there to control their game.Misbah is too defensive and makes other batsmen play according to HIS own will.That makes the other batsmen play defensively and against their nature which is attacking.That results in pakistani batting collapsing most of the times without scoring much.Think about this everyone.there's always something to notice from the stats.

  • Dannymania on November 7, 2013, 22:12 GMT

    I dont know why people dont get that its not Misbah ul haq's batting that we have a problem with.Even his defensive captaincy is fine as long as he refrains from two things. 1: Misbah is a captain and NOT a selector.Selectors should be given full authority in selection of the team that plays the game.Misbah should not be able to choose the team. 2: Misbah should refrain from telling his batsmen HOW to bat.Pakistani batsmen are attacking from their very nature.When misbah tells them to bat patiently, they go away from their natural game and get out because they dont play as they want to play.Even in the third ODI, they were fine as long as they played attacking cricket.They got out of the match cheaply after they started playing defensive cricket. The bad thing is, that misbah is now too old to change.So the only practical and realistic way is for him to retire.His batting has been fine, but pakistan has lost most of those matches.Its because of the two afore mentioned reasons.

  • on November 7, 2013, 22:06 GMT

    I think PCB is sticking with these guyz, every body is given a role and the management has even gambled with couple of things, like promoting Umar amin at no 3, playing Asad shafiq in last match, but it is such a desperate time for the management that unfortunately what ever move the management makes it doesn't pay off. I think we just need to give it rest. just keep persisting with these bunch of players, provided they are the best we have. dont expect them to win just give them time. ONLY THING PCB CAN DO IS FOR GOD SAKE HIRE A WORLD CLASS BATTING COACH.....like other renowned teams

  • Desihungama on November 7, 2013, 22:05 GMT

    Well, I may sound like a fool to suggest but might as well as go with 8 front line bowlers and just depend on openers and Misbah as far as batting. I am sure we can't do any worse? I suggested few months back, we need to somehow get Azhar Mehmood in till the 2015 WC just for the purpose of change in atmosphere. The guy is magnet and brings purpose.

  • mattandy on November 7, 2013, 21:36 GMT

    Frankly, With all fairness, Misbah is right!!! He can not win by only his own performance. All Other selfish batsmen were playing like a club cricketer. They need to have a player like Bangla's Nasir Hussein, who is a true winner when the chips are down. Abdul Razzak is in the same category. These guys put aside their personal achievements and win the game for their respective countries. Other than Misbah and some extent Shahid Afridi(Since he claims to be a bowler than a batter and he is doing a great job in that area) none of the socalled front line batters are doing their Patriotic duty at all. That is shame!!!! Look at my team, even Tsotsobe and morkel batted more responsibly and consistently than Pak frontliners!!!!!! Go SA, Go!!!

  • cornered_again on November 7, 2013, 21:16 GMT

    Play omer Akmal up the order..He can be a new ricky ponting,,,mark my words,,,and he also got the temperament,,,check his crucial innings in quarter final 2011 world cup,, semifinal t20 world cup,,, crucial match against sa in t20 world cup 2010,,, or the last t20 world cup,,the boy didnot get out once in the whole tournament,,

  • shot274 on November 7, 2013, 20:57 GMT

    Its not the PCB, its not misbah-its simpler than that. This is a very weak batting side. Not one from the top six would get a place in any international side. Misbah may in Bangladesh! To suggest that they are talented is laughable. If you see them bat you can see how technically flawed they are. Its the bowling which prevents complete annihilation. Any target above 200 will be out of reach. The only chance this team has is to bat first and then hope the bowlers do the trick-again and again and again!and that cannot happen consistently against a top team.

  • on November 7, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    A great injustice was done when Mohsin Khan was not retained as Pakistan coach. Pakistan coach should have a birds eye view of the whole team to stratagize the game plan not let a few players take command and run the show.understanding the team is the main challenge only then a path can be created for the team to follow. Good luck in the next game!

  • on November 7, 2013, 20:17 GMT

    Pakistan's batting performance so far

    Ahmed shehzad 148, Misbah 75, Hafeez 69 , wahab 51 Amin 47 Akmal 43 tanvir 42 afridi 41 Asad 11 ( 1 game) Nasir 1 ( 2 games )

    Point to be noted is no9 is 4th on the list and no 8 tanvir is just marginally behind Akmal.

  • on November 7, 2013, 19:27 GMT

    Hi. I think Pakistani team bowling is good enough but in batting side they are very weak. I think pak too focus on bowlers than batting line. They should focus on batting line too not just bowling. Because batting line is most important than bowling. Like India and Australia they have many batsman, even no.8 like faulkner can give surprise to India. So pak also need more player like them. All rounder like faulkner. I see most pakistani bowler can't batting well like ajmal, tanvir, wahab and irfan. Ajmal and irfan is still ok because they are great bowler so pak need bowler like them. Tanvir and wahab? I think should drop from team! really useless, bowling also not good enough even batting also they cant do well. I miss abdul razzak all rounder. they should bring him back and also Imran nazir! they shoulr drop 2-3 bowler that useless like wahab, tanvir and afridi also not perform well too. then take 2 batsman like abdul razak and imran nazir. then i think pak team will balance!

  • on November 7, 2013, 19:26 GMT

    Pakistan play any batsmen other than the ones on this team. Go to small cricket clubs, school/college teams, even tape ball players from the streets. Or bring back Miandad, Zaheer Abbas, Hanif Muhammad, Inzamam and a few others from retirement, give them the bat and help them pad up and tie their shoe laces (they may not be able to do it themselves). You may have to get some oxygen tanks and wheel chairs and glucose drips on the field but i am sure you will get a few more runs and a little more excitement out of them. Do something, anything, to spare us the agony of having to endure the sight of these pretend players whose talent most definitely lies somewhere other than the cricket field.

  • GermanPlayer on November 7, 2013, 17:53 GMT

    How many times the Pakistani team managed to play the full 50 overs? Answer: 0 out of 3. Still people criticize Misbah for staying out there too long. When the team can't manage to stay out till the 50th over and one guy tries to stay out there for a long period, the fans want him out. Strange!

  • Crick_Chater on November 7, 2013, 17:47 GMT

    It is "same old story" because of shameful old selection. Why not top scorers in domestic cricket should be given a chance than choosing of lahories from lahorie top management and selectors.Keeping one of Akmal Bros at any cost seems questionable.Why Rizwan still on sidelines, and Zulqurnain not given due chances.

    As a fan of Pak cricket, I smell fish or may I say "smell bookies" in this selection of pak Team. ICC, please intervene, it seem from selectors to players things have to be closely monitered.These are just my feelings, hope I am wrong.

    Why they have been so persistant with inconsistant hafeez, umar amin and now again shoaib malik.

    The only team against which Hafeez, Nasir and Shoaib Malik can perform is India. So bring them in, when playing India or other sub continent teams. Put them to sleep when playing against genunine fast bowling units.

  • on November 7, 2013, 17:42 GMT

    Common Guys stop blaming Misbah.. He is the only consistent player in pakistan batting.... He has not produced any tuk tuks but instead most of the players of current team does not even know their basics so ultimately if they find a difficult surface than they play defensive cricket..Keeping wickets in hand is the key but only if you are able to convert you 10s and 20s into big scores...Why to blame misbah... hafeez, afridi, nasir Umars both akmal and amin none of them have performed, 5 of your top order batsmen are unable to perform and yet one expects pakistan to win... Funny Huhh....Stop blaming misbah, if you get him out i bet pak will get out under 100 more often...

  • on November 7, 2013, 17:39 GMT

    @legsidewide: yes mate agreed. any score is score board pressure for pak :)

  • EngineerKhan on November 7, 2013, 17:35 GMT

    Time to move Afridi up the order. When he is not performing at No. 7, then why not try him at No. 3 or 4. The turning point yesterday was Shehzad's wicket and after that Hafeez, Umar Amin and Misbah played too many dot balls before gifting their wicket away and took the required run rate way beyond 6.

    Last time Pakistan played at this ground, they chased down 249 with 8 wickets to spare due to Nasir Jamshed's 97 in UAE's August Heat. Noone in the team checks the history/stats,etc.

    There can be plan B as well. Move Umar Akmal to No 3. while Amin and Afridi at 5,6.

  • on November 7, 2013, 16:59 GMT

    Difference between two teams: - Paksistan team do lot of practice, while South African team do lot of practice and do their homework. - Pakistan team don't learn from there mistakes but SA try to overcome their weakness. - Pakistani are very talented and they are tigers, but we need someone to tame them. Years after years we all agree that we have sheer talent but not the tamer.. Currently they are more valuable for advertisment not quality circket. Good Luck Pakistan...

  • wrenx on November 7, 2013, 16:38 GMT

    @Khurram S Chaudhry 19 off 65 with 6 wickets in hand? You forget, for us, that *is* scoreboard pressure

  • short_cover on November 7, 2013, 16:29 GMT

    Lets see the funny side of this. Pak top order (lets say top 5) are always competing with the bottom 5 to see who scores more. In this case it was a pretty good fight from the tail to score close to what top order has made. If we add extras as a bonus to the total for the tail ... they are way ahead of the top 5. Similar with 2nd ODi.. tail gave a strong fight to the top 5 for runs as well.

  • Laeeq1980 on November 7, 2013, 16:25 GMT

    Azhar Mehmood, Ahmed Shahzad, Hafeez , Umar Akmal, Asad Shafiq , Misbah, Abdulrazaq , Afridi, junaid/Sohail, Saeed Ajmal, Irfan

    this is how our team should look like … we are wasting legends like Azhar he should be respected and given chance / he probably have still couple years of cricket left in him

  • Mr_Afzal on November 7, 2013, 16:24 GMT

    it's shocking to me that people complain about misbah. it seems that they have no knowledge of cricket, or perhaps even lack commmon sense. 1) misbah recently was highest run-getter in all formats (2) pak's team is that we can't bat out the overs. why would you get rid of the one guy that has staying power? (3) who would you replace him with? it's evident, we let go of younis khan, another person with staying power, and we had no one to take his spot effectively. LONG STORY SHORT - stop making misbah the scapegoat and try to understand the real problem with our team. it's the pcb!

  • atharsherwani on November 7, 2013, 16:10 GMT

    I know it's hard to stomach but as Pakistan supporters we have to accept that our batsmen lack technique and hence patience. Even when they go on the attack, their inability to distinguish between good and bad ball is self evident. In the current series they are unable to play against leg spinner because they do not know how to milk him. Instead they try to hit him out of attack which he loves to happen. Imran Tahir has single handedly destroyed Pak batting. All our batsmen should go back to cricket academy and learn the basics.

  • on November 7, 2013, 16:04 GMT

    guys in this series they cant hide behind score board pressure. 19 off 55 balls with 6 wickets in hand?

    in 2 nd match misbah got out in 27th over gives 23 overs to umar akmal amin & others but what happened?

    in 3rd yes relatively hard task but no8 and no9 showed that if you stay its not hard to bat on. which 1 of umar, amin, asad afridi were attacking when they got out?

    putting it on misbah is easy but its not alone his fault. umar akmal is not kid he has been in for 4 years now. hafeez is also there for ages. afridi is senior most.

    i dont agree that misbah has converted ahmed or nasir to tuk tuk. check there lisy A record and strike rates.

    problem is selection. criteria should be top domestic performers. here we go with others.

    other problem is they are playing far too many pure bowlers. most teams these days goes with 4 bowlers and rest batsman who can bat. we have about 7 bolwers who can bowl 10 overs complete but not bat much including hafez& afridi.

  • roook on November 7, 2013, 15:53 GMT

    I think there is no planned batting and biased player selection. What is criteria for be selected in team?. I think it is too late for 2015 we should planned for 2020. If Misbah can play at 40 please bring back muhammed yousuf he is still got 3 of cricket left and groom some young batsman under him. Fawad alam got a century on same ground in 2010 he is far better than umer amin.Instead trying out inexperience player give chances to them have 25 ODI+ experience. It is too risky to exposed too many young player against number one bowling attack.

  • Behind_the_Wicket on November 7, 2013, 15:42 GMT

    Pakistani team is playing without homework I didn't see anyone who can play with ease in gaps. Their main mission is just touch the ball if it go in the gap then get run otherwise provide some catch practice to opposition. Nervy start by openers , Under-pressure & run-less inning by middle order & irresponsibility from hard hitters ( lower order ) in this situation how team can win or perform well. In Pak team only 2 persons have permanent place Misbah & Saeed Ajmal all others are just try to save their place for upcoming match. That's why mostly batters are so cautious.Pakistan Cricket Board should take initiative and change the whole structure of Cricket , Give chance to some wise selectors and captain. PCB should Finish the Dave Whatmore contract because he is just Misbah's puppet. He also try to save his place to make good relation with captain. As Iqbal Qasam said Misbah & Dav never had any issue between them , Dave always agreed on Misbah's words.

  • wrenx on November 7, 2013, 15:29 GMT

    If they play out maiden after maiden against Tstsobe, they deserve to lose. Clearly have no idea what they're doing when they go out to chase. Whether they are chasing 80 or 35, it's guaranteed that they will fumble around cluelessly, try to hit boundaries and get out. No plan whatsoever - majority of the blame lies squarely on the coach. Whatmore should be sacked, he's clearly doing absolutely nothing to change or improve the team.

  • Sports4Youth on November 7, 2013, 15:27 GMT

    This team cannot be rebuilt as long as Misbah is ther in the team.

  • web_guru2003 on November 7, 2013, 15:25 GMT

    @ICCExpert: Yeah Misbah should retire so we start getting bundled under 100 instead of under 150 or 200

  • Sports4Youth on November 7, 2013, 15:25 GMT

    @ CricketChat :

    Always the bottom half of the team will face an impossible asking rate in Pakistan becasue of Mr.Tuk-Tuk. Further he has also managed to make more tuk-tuks out of Jamshed and Hafeez. Asad Shafiq is not not meant for limited over cricket. Misbah cannot rotate singles. So how do you expect the asking rate to be under control. Regarding Umar Akmal, there is really no point disccussing about him. This guy thinks that ODI cricket is there for fun and not National Duty. He does not think he has some responsibilty as a batsman of the team. Now After Misbah & Afridi he is not next most experienced batsman in the team but he continues to behave like an 18 year old.

    Mr.Tuk-Tuk is converting all the batsmen into tuk-tuks, so the asking rate will always be high.

  • zzby on November 7, 2013, 15:20 GMT

    Please Pakistani selector, please select one hitter as opener i.e.

    sharjeel khan awais zia imran nazir shahzaib hassan

    if he got out no problem.

    But if he stays then other team would definitly have some problems.

    Be aggressive look at finch,dhawan,warner etc

  • Sports4Youth on November 7, 2013, 15:13 GMT

    As long as Misbah is a the Captain, batting will never improve. It will keep falling to newer depths. This guy does not allow younsters to settle. Look what he has done to NASIR JAMSHED, who was such a freee flowing batsman. Firstly Misbah kept fidling with his batting position then in the tough series of SA, just a couple of failures and he dropped him. The effect was too much on Jamshed. Now he knew that he could be dropped so easily so he started playing for his position in the team. That put pressure on him and he started failing even on Asian pitches. He is doing the same thing to JUNAID KHAN also. Junaid can easliy replace WAHAB and TANVIR and further Misbah can streanthen the batting, but he wont do that.

  • on November 7, 2013, 14:54 GMT

    Why should he retire... if the rest of the team can't bat that's not his fault is it

  • ICCexpert.... on November 7, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    Misbah should retire. end of story

  • on November 7, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    Misbah do the Nation a favour by resigning from the Captaincy because none of the Batsmen listen to you.

    G.Khan

  • CricketChat on November 7, 2013, 14:13 GMT

    There are few obvious problems with batting order. 1) Pak is one batsman short straight away the moment Steyn bowls to Hafeez. 2) Umar Amin reverts any good work done until that point with his unsure, slow rate. 3) Afridi can no longer contribute anything meaningful with bat. 4) Umar Akmal comes so late down the order that he always has to bat with the asking rate nearing beyond reach, especially, if Amin played for a while before him. May be these problems are one too many solve on THIS tour, but Pak selectors and captain needs to address them to have much success in future. Realistically, Pak's only chance at victory depends on getting opposition out for less than 200-225. Anything more is beyond their batting reach.

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  • CricketChat on November 7, 2013, 14:13 GMT

    There are few obvious problems with batting order. 1) Pak is one batsman short straight away the moment Steyn bowls to Hafeez. 2) Umar Amin reverts any good work done until that point with his unsure, slow rate. 3) Afridi can no longer contribute anything meaningful with bat. 4) Umar Akmal comes so late down the order that he always has to bat with the asking rate nearing beyond reach, especially, if Amin played for a while before him. May be these problems are one too many solve on THIS tour, but Pak selectors and captain needs to address them to have much success in future. Realistically, Pak's only chance at victory depends on getting opposition out for less than 200-225. Anything more is beyond their batting reach.

  • on November 7, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    Misbah do the Nation a favour by resigning from the Captaincy because none of the Batsmen listen to you.

    G.Khan

  • ICCexpert.... on November 7, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    Misbah should retire. end of story

  • on November 7, 2013, 14:54 GMT

    Why should he retire... if the rest of the team can't bat that's not his fault is it

  • Sports4Youth on November 7, 2013, 15:13 GMT

    As long as Misbah is a the Captain, batting will never improve. It will keep falling to newer depths. This guy does not allow younsters to settle. Look what he has done to NASIR JAMSHED, who was such a freee flowing batsman. Firstly Misbah kept fidling with his batting position then in the tough series of SA, just a couple of failures and he dropped him. The effect was too much on Jamshed. Now he knew that he could be dropped so easily so he started playing for his position in the team. That put pressure on him and he started failing even on Asian pitches. He is doing the same thing to JUNAID KHAN also. Junaid can easliy replace WAHAB and TANVIR and further Misbah can streanthen the batting, but he wont do that.

  • zzby on November 7, 2013, 15:20 GMT

    Please Pakistani selector, please select one hitter as opener i.e.

    sharjeel khan awais zia imran nazir shahzaib hassan

    if he got out no problem.

    But if he stays then other team would definitly have some problems.

    Be aggressive look at finch,dhawan,warner etc

  • Sports4Youth on November 7, 2013, 15:25 GMT

    @ CricketChat :

    Always the bottom half of the team will face an impossible asking rate in Pakistan becasue of Mr.Tuk-Tuk. Further he has also managed to make more tuk-tuks out of Jamshed and Hafeez. Asad Shafiq is not not meant for limited over cricket. Misbah cannot rotate singles. So how do you expect the asking rate to be under control. Regarding Umar Akmal, there is really no point disccussing about him. This guy thinks that ODI cricket is there for fun and not National Duty. He does not think he has some responsibilty as a batsman of the team. Now After Misbah & Afridi he is not next most experienced batsman in the team but he continues to behave like an 18 year old.

    Mr.Tuk-Tuk is converting all the batsmen into tuk-tuks, so the asking rate will always be high.

  • web_guru2003 on November 7, 2013, 15:25 GMT

    @ICCExpert: Yeah Misbah should retire so we start getting bundled under 100 instead of under 150 or 200

  • Sports4Youth on November 7, 2013, 15:27 GMT

    This team cannot be rebuilt as long as Misbah is ther in the team.

  • wrenx on November 7, 2013, 15:29 GMT

    If they play out maiden after maiden against Tstsobe, they deserve to lose. Clearly have no idea what they're doing when they go out to chase. Whether they are chasing 80 or 35, it's guaranteed that they will fumble around cluelessly, try to hit boundaries and get out. No plan whatsoever - majority of the blame lies squarely on the coach. Whatmore should be sacked, he's clearly doing absolutely nothing to change or improve the team.