Pakistan news July 6, 2011

ICC team calls for sweeping changes in Pakistan

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The ICC's Pakistan Task Team (PTT) has recommended what amounts to a root and branch reform of the game in Pakistan, including broad changes to the way the board is run and on micro issues such as selection, managerial appointments and even the standard of ball used in Pakistan's domestic cricket.

The PTT presented a 38-page report during the annual conference in Hong Kong last week and listed 63 recommendations that it believes will strengthen cricket in the country. The report has also called, in strong terms, for a resumption of cricket ties with India, recognising it to be a key component of the fabric of Pakistan's cricket.

The PCB said last week it would review the report and get back to the ICC with some "observations" on the recommendations; in some instances, such as the recommendations to reduce the power of the chairman, board officials believe the PTT has gone beyond its remit.

The parameters for the body's work - as the report acknowledges - did expand over time. Initially set up in light of continuing concerns over security in Pakistan (it was constituted in June 2009, having been on the agenda since February that year) it broadened its role after the spot-fixing scandal to take in "integrity issues" as well as matters of governance and administration.

And it is the recommendations on the last that are particularly eye-opening. "Perhaps the strongest of the recommendations, however, relate to the governance structures of Pakistan cricket," the executive summary of the report states. "It is highly unusual that the President of the country is entitled to appoint both the Chairman of the PCB and over half of the Governing Board. It is also inconsistent with the demands of modern sports administration that the Chairman also holds the powers of the CEO.

"The PTT believes there should be a wholesale (internal) review of the PCB's governance structures, including its constitution. While recognising that changes may not happen overnight, the PTT believes that preserving the status quo will constrain the development of Pakistan cricket in the long-term and is not in keeping with international best practice in sports administration."

The report calls for constitutional changes within the board aimed at reducing the power of the chairman and making the role a non-executive one. "The PCB and ICC are currently engaged in a consultative process of constitutional review. It is proposed that this process continues over the next few months, with a view to amending the PCB constitution."

The recommendations - to hold elections and ensure no political interference - are the same as those envisaged in the ICC's recent constitutional amendment on governance for all boards. But it goes further, suggesting a reduction "in the absolute executive powers of the Chairman by creating the post of Chief Executive, who is appointed by the Governing Board." The role of regional associations as an alternative centre of power, should also be increased.

Ten recommendations are made on matters of selection, the report said, noting that "there has been a high level of turnover of selectors in the past five years with five different people serving as chairman of selectors in this short period." The report recommends that the selection committee operate without "outside interference" and also suggests that appointments to the committee should be through a clear process, approved the the board of governors. Most tellingly, it asks that the chairman's right of veto on selection of players be removed altogether.

The role of the team management also comes under scrutiny, the report suggesting a permanent manager to accompany the side rather than a series-by-series appointment as is the case currently. The incumbent, Intikhab Alam, makes in fact regular appearances through the report; the PTT questions the workload of a man who is the national team manager, the chairman of the cricket committee, director game development as well as a governing board member.

Interestingly, the report also notes the growing influence of the board's legal advisor Taffazul Rizvi in cricket matters. No judgment is made, however, on a man who has been closely involved in a number of issues to afflict Pakistan over the last 18 months; "The PCB has very strong reliance on its external legal counsel, Mr Taffazul Rizvi, who is central to all major strategic and management decisions."

The PTT also suggests that the number of centrally contracted players be reduced, though here it is out of date; currently the PCB has 20 players on central contracts and no stipend category anymore, and not the 45 players and 15 receiving a stipend the report states.

It also raises, with little context, the type of balls being used in domestic cricket. "A specific cricket issue raised with the PTT on several occasions was the quality of the balls used in domestic cricket, being an inferior grade to those used at international level. This situation, which prevails for financial reasons, provides an insight into either the financial constraints facing the PCB or inappropriate prioritisation....PCB should prioritise the use of international-standard balls in the top division of its multi-day and one-day men's competitions."

The absence of Indo-Pak cricket, the report said, is hurting the sport. "The absence of the traditional bilateral series between Pakistan and India from the international cricket calendar is denying millions of cricket loving fans across the world from enjoying an iconic series. It is also hurting the sport, particularly in Pakistan and the PTT sees no reason why this great sporting rivalry should not be restored as soon as possible, even if on neutral soil." However, little else is said on how international cricket can be revived in Pakistan, which was one of the main tasks of the PTT.

The recommendations are not believed to be binding on the PCB so they are under no compulsion to implement them. The board will send back observations on the report to the ICC, but what happens beyond that is unclear. Incidentally, Zimbabwe accepted and implemented all recommendations in an earlier ICC task team report on problems in the game there.

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  • m23khan on July 9, 2011, 19:52 GMT

    Pakistan easily contributes 20-30% of cricket's annual revenue (cricketing equipment, PCB revenues, cricketing academies, etc).

    We Pakistanis have a habit of thinking the World is against us. Re-read the entire list of recommendations and sip cold water while you read them. They are very logical. It is sports, and if Pakistan wants to play the game, they have to follow the rules. It has nothing to do with pride. Our team's performances should dictate our pride, nothing else. This is simply regarding administration of the game in Pakistan and has nothing to do with fans. In fact, this is not even worthy of being reported as news.

    Lets stop complaining and hope that PCB implements these rules/regulations ASAP and move on. The sooner we get our act together, the sooner the spotlight will shift away from us.

  • reality_check on July 9, 2011, 8:48 GMT

    @nlambda. We are talking about Pak/Ind head-to-head not Ind/Aus or Pak/Aus. 90's and before was all in Pak favour so let's look at Pak/Ind from 2000 to 2010 since you say that this decade belongs to India overwhelmingly. (No series played from 2000 to 2003). Since 2003/2004, Both teams have played 12 tests. India won 4, Pak won 3 and Drawn 5. Since 2003/2004 both teams have played 24 ODI's. India won 13, Pak won 11 and Drawn 0. This does not show India to have been overwhelmingly stronger team then Pak in the 2000's. The thing is both teams have strong points and both teams can defeat each other on a given day. This is all decided on the pitch and if India does not play Pak because of politics then India's record against Pak will remain in Pak's favour.

  • nlambda on July 8, 2011, 16:11 GMT

    @reality_check: Pak has absolutely been the more dominant and successful team. That is just a fact of history. But we (Ind) have been better than you in the past 10 years or so. Our head to head record since Jan 1, 2000 is better and more than that we were able to beat teams like Australia whom Pakistan have found virtually insurmountable over the past 10-12 years.

  • reality_check on July 8, 2011, 11:02 GMT

    @ALL... specially Indians. All time head-to-head between India/Pakistan. Total tests played = 59, Pakistan won 12 and India won 9. Total ODI played = 120, Pakistan won 69 and India won 47. Total T20 played = 2, Pakistan won 0 and India won 1. Simple fact is that unless India plays Pakistan and improve it's record, this record in Pakistan's favour will be etched into stone for eternity. Forget about who is best in bowling or batting... both teams have their strong points but overall record speaks for itself. End of story!!!

  • on July 8, 2011, 9:52 GMT

    Why should we change balls in domestic cricket? We are producing a lot of bowlers and batrers, don't see any reason to change it :S

  • Exfactor44 on July 8, 2011, 8:25 GMT

    The ICC's job is to look after world cricket and ensure that the health and competition of the game is maintained. It is therefore in their best interests to ensure that the game at a national level is being managed in a suitable fashion to sustain the international game as a whole.

    I don't think this report by their 'PTT' is beyond that subcommittees' remit. In the past few years players and commentators have made it clear that what they see as the blurred line between cricket and politics in the country is becoming more indistinct and certainly damaging the game.

    I can't see the top guys in the PCB wanting to implement this stuff but for cricket in Pakistan to flourish like they want it to I think it needs to happen.

  • ansh316 on July 8, 2011, 8:07 GMT

    Where Pakistan talents fails then, We succeed with it!

  • on July 8, 2011, 4:09 GMT

    I was quite amazed to know that the PTT presented a 38-page report during the annual conference in Hong Kong last week and listed 63 recommendations that it believes will strengthen cricket in Pakistan. Huh! ICC started dictating in all matters for Pakistan Cricket. ICC has also mentioned that what type of ball is being played in the domestic cricket should also be notified. Wow! What is left then? ICC should also have said how players will eat, sleep, drink and use toilets..these should also be dictated by ICC I guess

  • jtggrehhtrhtrht on July 8, 2011, 0:47 GMT

    why do the icc want pak to vs india are too eay to beat they should vs the Australia insted

  • rohanblue on July 8, 2011, 0:02 GMT

    HW-cricketer we dnt need a fast bowler, with curent pakistani batting line up suresh raina and yusuf pathan is enough fr them

  • m23khan on July 9, 2011, 19:52 GMT

    Pakistan easily contributes 20-30% of cricket's annual revenue (cricketing equipment, PCB revenues, cricketing academies, etc).

    We Pakistanis have a habit of thinking the World is against us. Re-read the entire list of recommendations and sip cold water while you read them. They are very logical. It is sports, and if Pakistan wants to play the game, they have to follow the rules. It has nothing to do with pride. Our team's performances should dictate our pride, nothing else. This is simply regarding administration of the game in Pakistan and has nothing to do with fans. In fact, this is not even worthy of being reported as news.

    Lets stop complaining and hope that PCB implements these rules/regulations ASAP and move on. The sooner we get our act together, the sooner the spotlight will shift away from us.

  • reality_check on July 9, 2011, 8:48 GMT

    @nlambda. We are talking about Pak/Ind head-to-head not Ind/Aus or Pak/Aus. 90's and before was all in Pak favour so let's look at Pak/Ind from 2000 to 2010 since you say that this decade belongs to India overwhelmingly. (No series played from 2000 to 2003). Since 2003/2004, Both teams have played 12 tests. India won 4, Pak won 3 and Drawn 5. Since 2003/2004 both teams have played 24 ODI's. India won 13, Pak won 11 and Drawn 0. This does not show India to have been overwhelmingly stronger team then Pak in the 2000's. The thing is both teams have strong points and both teams can defeat each other on a given day. This is all decided on the pitch and if India does not play Pak because of politics then India's record against Pak will remain in Pak's favour.

  • nlambda on July 8, 2011, 16:11 GMT

    @reality_check: Pak has absolutely been the more dominant and successful team. That is just a fact of history. But we (Ind) have been better than you in the past 10 years or so. Our head to head record since Jan 1, 2000 is better and more than that we were able to beat teams like Australia whom Pakistan have found virtually insurmountable over the past 10-12 years.

  • reality_check on July 8, 2011, 11:02 GMT

    @ALL... specially Indians. All time head-to-head between India/Pakistan. Total tests played = 59, Pakistan won 12 and India won 9. Total ODI played = 120, Pakistan won 69 and India won 47. Total T20 played = 2, Pakistan won 0 and India won 1. Simple fact is that unless India plays Pakistan and improve it's record, this record in Pakistan's favour will be etched into stone for eternity. Forget about who is best in bowling or batting... both teams have their strong points but overall record speaks for itself. End of story!!!

  • on July 8, 2011, 9:52 GMT

    Why should we change balls in domestic cricket? We are producing a lot of bowlers and batrers, don't see any reason to change it :S

  • Exfactor44 on July 8, 2011, 8:25 GMT

    The ICC's job is to look after world cricket and ensure that the health and competition of the game is maintained. It is therefore in their best interests to ensure that the game at a national level is being managed in a suitable fashion to sustain the international game as a whole.

    I don't think this report by their 'PTT' is beyond that subcommittees' remit. In the past few years players and commentators have made it clear that what they see as the blurred line between cricket and politics in the country is becoming more indistinct and certainly damaging the game.

    I can't see the top guys in the PCB wanting to implement this stuff but for cricket in Pakistan to flourish like they want it to I think it needs to happen.

  • ansh316 on July 8, 2011, 8:07 GMT

    Where Pakistan talents fails then, We succeed with it!

  • on July 8, 2011, 4:09 GMT

    I was quite amazed to know that the PTT presented a 38-page report during the annual conference in Hong Kong last week and listed 63 recommendations that it believes will strengthen cricket in Pakistan. Huh! ICC started dictating in all matters for Pakistan Cricket. ICC has also mentioned that what type of ball is being played in the domestic cricket should also be notified. Wow! What is left then? ICC should also have said how players will eat, sleep, drink and use toilets..these should also be dictated by ICC I guess

  • jtggrehhtrhtrht on July 8, 2011, 0:47 GMT

    why do the icc want pak to vs india are too eay to beat they should vs the Australia insted

  • rohanblue on July 8, 2011, 0:02 GMT

    HW-cricketer we dnt need a fast bowler, with curent pakistani batting line up suresh raina and yusuf pathan is enough fr them

  • bigwonder on July 7, 2011, 20:53 GMT

    one more attempt at the comment. @Azhar Babar, it is definitely India's decision if they want to play with Pakistan in Pakistan. As far as fast bowlers go, we don't want fast bowlers who are part of spot fixing anyway. Look at the recommendations of PTT, why does a chariman need to have a veto power over player selection? Does he not trust his own selection of selector? There seems to be a power struggle in PCB with no focus on players. Just look at how many captains Pakistan has had in past few years; same story with selectors. With all the controversy surrounding Paksitan since 2007 worldcup, PCB does not have much say but to accept most of the changes recommended by PTT - unless of course they want status quo and play muscial chair with selectors and captains.

  • on July 7, 2011, 18:17 GMT

    Ijaz butt and his companions had do so much damage to the cricket in Pakistan that no body did in whole history, suspension of Amir, Asif, and Salman is another factor, because of their handling of their cases,these nonsense peoples Ijaz and Ilyas has no outlook and nothing in the mind to bring the good for Pakistan cricket, they just want their order should be meet at any cost, I am requesting to President Asif Ali zaradar that please don't keep your eyes shut do wot ever you can do change this scenario in pakistan cricket if you truly love this game of Cricket, as a President if you don't use your power than you don't have true love with Pakistan and Pakistani peoples, People don't want Ijaz but tand his companions to run Pakistan cricket matters.

    May Allah safe Pakistan cricket from these satans and dajahals.

    Ameen

  • faridkhan on July 7, 2011, 18:01 GMT

    Bring back the Sahara Cup folks! How awesome was that series!!!

  • Haleos on July 7, 2011, 17:52 GMT

    @Shokat Shah, Azhar Babar - which world r u living in? Oh I forgot u have ur own world where India is always an iferior team. What Venky says should have been put in better words. If the Indian fans sentiments are going to hurt by visiting X country who is responsible for voilence in India, India has right not to visit there. Sort out ur mess first. Indians definetely would like to play in Pak provided it changes which it will never. BTW, Last time India toured Pak, we won both the series(Test n ODI)

  • vind_2801 on July 7, 2011, 16:59 GMT

    @ Shoukat Shah : may be not "Pakistan beats us so we dont want to play" but probably "Pakistan try to kill us so we dont want to play" every test playing nation

  • nskaile on July 7, 2011, 16:23 GMT

    @Lethal007 : ur right about the hawk eye. only someone from pak could have caught this shameless act of BCCI (india/ICC). and if that wasnt enough, india also did black magic or maybe put somethinhg into pak players drinks b4 the game so they drop Sachin's catch 4 times. Thank you for exposing the TRUTH. U guys are genius.

  • DaGameChanger on July 7, 2011, 15:44 GMT

    Afridi the best bowler of Pakistan has bowling avg of 55 against India. Umar Gul may never recover from Sehwhacked. India - WC winners with no stupid rain law(1992 memories)... Enuf said...

  • poderdubdubdub on July 7, 2011, 15:25 GMT

    I dont know why Pakistanis are so paranoid about playing against India when India is not bothered about Pakistan. Its survival for the fittest. If Pakistan puts its own house in order by applying all these recommendations by the PTT, I am sure they wont have to run after big nations, the world would be after them. If Pakistan can not see its own wrongdoings then reformation must be imposed upon them in the interest of the poor Pakistani fans.

  • on July 7, 2011, 15:05 GMT

    @ eveyone against indian bowlers: 5 world cups in a row... Harbhajan smashing sixes and killing both your so called "Fastest bowler"... you are still proud of them. Even though Indian bowlers dont have the pase but they still won us the World Cup. Moreover, Pakistan was all out against India. So criticizing Indian bowler is just your frustration that your team is not doing well against any team. Loosing test match against WI :) FYI (eye opener) there is something called as points table.

  • CandidIndian on July 7, 2011, 14:31 GMT

    I am optimistic that Indian government will give the permission to BCCI so that we can see India-Pak series again.Only that can end this venomous feeling of hatred between India and Pakistan fans.Also Pakistan is a very good team just like SL, so in turn it will help Indian cricket too as its better to play hard cricket against tough opponents instead of playing against weak teams.India played a lot against excellent teams like Aus ,SL and SA in last 2-3 years and they have got better because of that.

  • on July 7, 2011, 14:02 GMT

    Wow....Is it Sachin fault that Pakistani players cant hold on to their catches. What did you expect Sachin to do..walk away saying hey if had held the catch I would have been out. As far as changing DRS hawkeye ...it must have taken a genius to predict to which ball will Sachin need Ajmals DRS and to do it all in few seconds... Believe in conspiracy theories man....but atleast make them realistic to believe..As for the guy asking Venkito improve his English ....please note your capitals and spellings first....Also India won the world cup and unlike your super fast bowlers who bowled well against minnows only ..atleast Indian medium pacers won them world cup twice...

  • sskris1 on July 7, 2011, 13:46 GMT

    @lethal007: You make a great point in one and then not so gr8 point in the other statement. Afridi is not best bowler in the world. He got those wickets in the WC 2011 coz Pak played in SL and the batsmen gave their wickets rather than Afridi taking htem. He did not take a single wicket against IND in the SF match. Afridi is an overrated cricketer who does not perform when the team needs him. All he had to in the SF match against IND was to stay there at he crease and Pak would have won. Big blunder by him of not taking the powerplay when he was there at the crease. He got out to a horrible shot that shouldn't have been played. Steyn Morkel to me are the best test match bowlers in the world as they can rip thru any team on any day.

  • SachinLara1 on July 7, 2011, 13:44 GMT

    india have fast bowlers ishant, aaron,umesh but the fact is our selectors belive in accuracy rather than just bowling fast..

  • reality_check on July 7, 2011, 13:36 GMT

    BCCI, I mean ICC, I mean BCCICC should not micro manage PCB or any other board for that matter. PCB is run poorly but that should be upto Pakistan to decide how to fix it. BCCICC should instead concentrate on how and when international cricket can return to Pakistan and while you are at it, pelase stop chasing Aamir even into his bedroom to see if he is holding a cricket ball and while you are doing that, please reconsider the spot fixing charges in light of what NOTW has been accused of in UK this week... who knows, they may have setup the whole thing and finally if you want to make yourself relevant then do something relevant.

  • Angad11 on July 7, 2011, 13:29 GMT

    donno about pace in the indian team bettering Afridi, but sure no one can better his ball-eating skills.

  • melvn on July 7, 2011, 13:25 GMT

    Indo Pak series was as beautiful as the Ashes.They should play each other more,but touring Pakistan isn't safe; is it? It would be better if pakistan choose UAE for their home matches & then they can revive the ties.By an Indian

  • StatisticsRocks on July 7, 2011, 13:10 GMT

    @ greatkhan: Well said. If people want to continue to fight pl stay away from this forum. This is meant for cricket only. As Pakistan has always produced great fast bowlers India has never stopped producing great batsmen and both will continue. Just Enjoy the GAME

  • StatisticsRocks on July 7, 2011, 13:07 GMT

    and the back and forth bashing continues. How does this serve a greater purpose. Most of the people commenting here or rather bashing each other, are naive oryoung enough to not know the history and still continue to hate each other. Vow! Did the british really succeed in separating us or what! The situation is so wrose that even in the sporting arena we have to bring tanks and guns, coz even cricket between our two countries is a WAR mostly WAR of words. Only the end of human race on earth will end this bitterness. It's been 64 years since Independence and yet continues the hatredness, anger, and bitterness. Do we not have enough problems within our own countries to resolve? Can the younger generation do what their peers are not able to ? One can only wish.

  • xampl2001 on July 7, 2011, 12:58 GMT

    The only thing PCB needs is democratically elected chairman & governing body.Pcb is one man show & it is run by a single person & this is the reason that image of Pakistan cricket is getting damaged.Chanigin 9 captains in less than three years means board is not running efficiantly.People of Pakistan should raise their voice against present system & get constituion of PCB changed.After that we can see great changes in Pakistan cricket

  • ABRAR-JANJUA on July 7, 2011, 12:53 GMT

    @ nlambda i think now india should play against Pakistan because there is no shoaib,Asif and Amir in the side now... The same policy india did apply when Waqar and Wasim were in the side and both of them were horrible and sign of Horror for indians batsmen and at that time they avoid to tour Pakistan or play against Pakistan with lame excuses...and when both got retired india was happy to tour Pakistan..so do it again...

  • on July 7, 2011, 12:51 GMT

    why we should play Pakistan , i don't think Pakistan is good enough to play against India , well rather Pakistan play against west indies , Bangladesh , Zimbabwe and ire land and fix matches

  • veeezel on July 7, 2011, 12:48 GMT

    This is beyond believe now first it was our foreign policy which was run by others and now our cricket should go to the same route what a pitty for all those who wore those t shirts with so much pride (proud to be pakistani)I feel absouloutely disgraced by our leaders and our board chairman who have no shame or respect either for himself or for the nation how much more humilation we all have to suffer because of these incompetent people.Pakistan cricket has produced one of the finest cricketers from last 60 years ,there are so many to name.Why ICC only see pakistan problems what about India dictating to ICC acording to micheal holding on drs issue or buying the votes from minnows to minipulate against icl or what about england, has any one really took any notice how many south african are playing for england and how many are lining up to play for england it is becoming a total farce.yes srilankan attacked shouldn't happened but 9/11 happened as well is anyone treating usa the sameway

  • on July 7, 2011, 12:42 GMT

    here so many PAKISTANIS howling that INDIA have not any decent fast Bolwer. So I'll ask those people, which fast bolwer ( current player not retired) of PAKISTAN have better Statistics then ZAHEER KHAN (INDIA). Go and search the "Statsguru" page & you will find which country have the better bolwer now. And don't whining again.

  • on July 7, 2011, 12:38 GMT

    hi all, still you think to play cricket in India? better change ur home ground as Dubai then its possible. Here there is no place to play cricket..

  • Venki_indian on July 7, 2011, 12:28 GMT

    @lethal007 is he playong for pakisthan now? lol

  • just_chill_chill on July 7, 2011, 11:48 GMT

    You all can suck on your "fast" chuckers, I mean bowlers. You and your team are and will remain at the BOTTOM forever.

  • Venki_indian on July 7, 2011, 10:48 GMT

    Zaheer rocks buddies..He won world cup for us..

  • lethal007 on July 7, 2011, 10:30 GMT

    Venki_indian: definitely afridi is the best bowler of the world.... if some one has weak memory one must see world 2011 leading wicket keeper name wid his average...

  • lethal007 on July 7, 2011, 10:10 GMT

    nskaile: n even what a shame for a nation who claimed as the best spin playing team can't pick saeed ajmal and to save little master they changed hawk eye decision and after droping 5 catches a baby can make century but maestro cant....... its advisable for all dnt start blaming each other as boht teams have best player....... every team has its own beauty whether it is 194 rund of saeed anwer or 10 wicket haul by kumble.......... javed miadad six or shewag 300

  • on July 7, 2011, 9:14 GMT

    what about shoaib malik??

  • sherishahmir on July 7, 2011, 9:12 GMT

    This is very good initiative to bring the management of game at international level all across ICC full members boards. I wish the recommendations shoud be fully implemented in PCB to bring the cricket at its right level as the other board of world like ACB or ECB is having.

    To start the crciket between IndPak is also prasiable.

  • HW-cricketer on July 7, 2011, 9:06 GMT

    @rohanblue, first try and produce a decent fast bowler. The only reson u have gr8 batsmen is that Indian pitches have bee tailormade for them and spinners. There is no doubt that India have gr8 batsmen and world class spinners, but Pakistan have better Fst Bowlers and that is what brings the balance in India-Pakistan matches.

  • on July 7, 2011, 9:01 GMT

    @Venki Indian, you need some help with your english I believe. Azhar said only if you could produce a faster bowler than Afridi not suggesting that he is the best bowler we have. Even our Afridi can bowl faster than your Zaheer, lol.

  • greatkhan on July 7, 2011, 7:20 GMT

    We all would love to see Indo-Pak cricketing ties resuming. All those typical fans who are fighting as to who is better team, please note that this is not the place to do so. Please keep your support out when you comment here, bcoz ppl read these things all over the world. Both teams possess great players, Pakistans strength is their bowling & Indias strength is their batting. But i wud disagree with ppl saying that Pakistan Fast bowling is great, it used to be great when Amer & Asif were wound but now the only good fast bowler in Pakistan is umar Gul, with honorable mention about Wahab riaz (its too early though in his case).

    Please ICC resume the cricketing ties between these 2 great cricketing Giants.

  • mihir_nam on July 7, 2011, 5:01 GMT

    @nlambda ..Zimbabwe have Defeated Pakistan in Test Series in Pakistan . that too that was Pakistan with good players. Even Zimbabwe had defeated India in Test Matches. Well Yes Bangladesh has never defeated any top Member Expect depleted west indies. and for your information Ireland still don't play test. But if they get it within 3-4years they will be above no 8 in odi's and Test

    And yes People Media sponsors want Indo-Pak series. If India to tour Pakistan but due to security they have to play at neutral venue .So Lord , Manchester, Leeds will be best for 3Test Matches between India vs Pakistan . Total Sell out. and in Early June Seaming conditions in England will be fun with Pakistani bowlers vs Indian Batsmen

  • crictime11 on July 7, 2011, 4:58 GMT

    we have sooo much potential in our country a lot of which the world has seen ovr the years and probably will keep seeing but i gotta say this PCB board is bent on making the lives of our players tough .... i reallly do think tht we need a new adminstration leading the cricket board. At everyturn they show their lack of committment towards our players who've already been through too much ovr the last year!

  • Tamil_SL on July 7, 2011, 2:58 GMT

    Even SL don't agree to play in Pak because of security and lot of Pak fans agree to that. Then how to expect India to play in Pak. Aus, Eng, SA all don't play in Pak. India is no exception.

  • jtggrehhtrhtrht on July 7, 2011, 1:10 GMT

    pakistan need the experienced players back

  • jtggrehhtrhtrht on July 7, 2011, 1:08 GMT

    pakistan need mohammed yousaf back

  • Venki_indian on July 7, 2011, 0:32 GMT

    @Azhar babar So Afridi is the better bowler you have LOL :)

  • VEXXZ on July 6, 2011, 22:52 GMT

    ICC , Please make sure the same is done for West Indies as you need for Pakistan. VEXXZ

  • on July 6, 2011, 22:44 GMT

    Yes i also agree with uwerisehigh pak-india should play more and play in pk as well the security and conditions are same in pk to india. i am from pk and believe that pk-indo matches should happen more often, it is sports best rivalry match

  • Japan.Kolla on July 6, 2011, 21:58 GMT

    I like Pakistan ' s Fast Bowling Resourses ! Batting need to be improve though

  • on July 6, 2011, 21:07 GMT

    @kalyanbk yaa we know how responsible the pak govt. is!!!

  • werisehigh on July 6, 2011, 20:56 GMT

    I am an Indian and I would love to see India-Pak competing more. And people who don't like this idea should be ashamed of themselves. These are exactly the kind of folks who promote hatred and have the the least of human values.

  • nlambda on July 6, 2011, 20:55 GMT

    @Kaleem Mahesar: when have Bang, Zim, IRL **ever** won a test match against the top teams? Are you confusing ODI/T20 wins with Test matches?

  • rohanblue on July 6, 2011, 20:48 GMT

    @Azhar Babar first try to produce a better batsman than Harbhajan , zaheer....

  • StatisticsRocks on July 6, 2011, 20:43 GMT

    As an Indian, i would like nothing more but to see India PAK play cricket again. This will help reduce tension between the two nations and is also good for the world cricket. The world needs PAK cricket as they always produce talented cricketers. Honestly I don't believe ICC should involve with any country's cricketing board. This is an internal matter and ICC should only assist but not take over any a country's cricket board. It is upto PAK govt and PAK cricket board to resolve the internal issues and ensure cricket continues in PAK for the sake of their fans.

  • matbhuvi on July 6, 2011, 20:17 GMT

    BCCI would love to have Indo-pak series because of the revenue it generates. The ban on Indo-pak series came from the Govt of India. BCCI needs the Govt approval for sending Indian team to Pak or to have a series with Pak in neutral country. Having said that, i can't see any indian (or Pak) cricket fan not wanting the India-Pak series to happen. We know that it produces much higher quality and intense cricket than Ashes.

  • nskaile on July 6, 2011, 20:17 GMT

    @Azhar Babar: India doesnt need FAST bowlers to win the WORDL CUP :D whats the use of havin FAST bowlers (like Sohib, Umar) when they cant even win u WC and get smashed all ove the park by Sehwag and Taylor haha

  • NBA007 on July 6, 2011, 20:03 GMT

    @ Shoukat Shah - well said. India is the only team in history of ANY sports that have refused on the grounds "Pakistan beats us so we dont want to play". It took them several years to believe that they can beat Pakistan and hence they restored ties....anwyay, useless discussion. I think the point is that most if not all the recommendations of PTT make all the sense. What really disappoint me is that they did not pay attention on following 2 of top 3 issues with Pakistan criticket, i.e.

    1. Resumption of the sport (cricket) in Pakistan (on same grounds, there should be no cricket in Sri Lanka and parts of India such as Mumbai) 2. Domestic infrastructure and domestic sport/playing strategy 3. Governance structure (PTT recommendations covered this point)

  • dukhimanmere on July 6, 2011, 19:59 GMT

    @Azhar Babar: I think you are misunderstanding Venki_indian. I think both of you are saying the same thing. What Venki is saying is India should realize this suggestion (or in other words, such recommendation to play more against Pak should be give to India/BCCI). When did Pak refused to play India (or any other test playing country for that matter) anyway. Your comment about fast bowler is out of context here. I don't know what you are trying say. There have been many test matches that India (and other countries like SL, Aus, NZ and Pak) have won based on their spin bowlers. (Remember, Kumble, Warne, Murali, Mustaq, Taufiq, Qadir?) This is international sports. All teams would have strengths and weaknesses. Like, one can argue "Oh, have Pak team better wicket keeper and opening pair (and middle order for that matter) first, then ask other countries to play them". But, that doesn't make sense.

  • kalyanbk on July 6, 2011, 19:43 GMT

    In theory, a government is a representative of the people. If the government has a heavy role in running a cricket board, in theory it means that people have a major role in running the board and that the board is answerable to the people. If the PTT wants to reduce this involvement it means either the government is not doing what the people want (why do you elect them then?) or that the business of cricket does not want to be accountable to the people.

  • on July 6, 2011, 19:42 GMT

    @nlambda wich team do u support ... i think in cricket top 8 teams have been beaten mnany times by the teams wich are not good like bang, IReland , Zimbabwe ... so if W.I beat pakistan in test it it can't b taken as huge upset man .......

  • serious-am-i on July 6, 2011, 19:36 GMT

    some of the comments by the users are simply hilarious. Keep it simple guys, when a board doesn't know how to run cricket let ICC interfere, its only for the good of cricket in Pakistan. About Indo-Pak series, ICC can't do a thing if India is stubborn on not playing any grounds. People in the India are not yet ready to watch an pakistan team playing on Indian soil, Mumbai attacks are still fresh in most of their minds.

  • on July 6, 2011, 19:36 GMT

    As far as PCB following the guidelines I don't think ICC should interfere..They should change board, player, selection method is there choice...Every cricket board /team goes through this...especially in sub-continent...

  • nlambda on July 6, 2011, 19:23 GMT

    @Shokat shah: big words for a fan of a team which lost a test match to WI last month!

  • just_chill_chill on July 6, 2011, 19:06 GMT

    I think this is interference in Pak's affairs by ICC. ICC should not be telling countries what is good for them. Pak can run cricket in their country the way they want. End of story.

  • ShaniJ on July 6, 2011, 18:44 GMT

    Very good suggestions by PTT .It contains all those recommendations that the former players here have been calling for.and while ideally it should have been pakistan itself clearing the mess but since the PCB lack vision and the former players dont have the power to do so its good that the ICC intervened in the best interest of cricket in general and pakistan cricket in particular!!

  • on July 6, 2011, 18:02 GMT

    @ Venik, it sertinly is India's choice, they should play whom ever they want to play. but look @ the track record you stay away from Pakistani team and ur ranking and everything well go up. but every time u play a series against Pak. everything will shattered a part and u will be down, so its betteer to stay away and enjoy ur ranking.

  • on July 6, 2011, 17:56 GMT

    there should not be govt interfarance in board administration. But why only pakistan is asked to repair its structure does govt not involves in BCCI? ICC only dictates pak because our board does not admit every decion of icc. As a Pakistani we should to support our board and most of all our team and its loyal members. and finally i suggest that there should be not involvement of goverment in CRICKET.

  • on July 6, 2011, 16:53 GMT

    @Venki: You keep your Indian team with you. Look at your statement - as long as ICC is dictating Pakistan, you are OK with that. But when ICC suggests that Pak / India should play, you dont want ICC to be involved? What kind of logic is that? Again, keep your team with you. We will revisit this issue, when you produce a fast bowler or someone who can bowl faster than Afridi!

  • on July 6, 2011, 16:45 GMT

    @ Venki_indian..

    Actually its not India's decision. According to ICC there is a rule that every team should play against each test playing nation within a particular time period. Unfortunately, BCCI and India considers themselves bigger than the game. Technically - no its not India's decision to say no to Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe or anyone. But since might is right - than your argument is quite valid.

  • Caveman. on July 6, 2011, 16:22 GMT

    Lol! ICC wants government out of cricket boards, but they dictate who should play who irrespective of the political climate (thereby impinging on the sovereignty of the countries). I doubt if anything will come out of this. ICC --> International Clowns Council.

  • on July 6, 2011, 16:12 GMT

    How about an overhaul of the ICC first.

  • thair9999 on July 6, 2011, 15:19 GMT

    Lets set up a ICC ITT (India task team) and recommend suggestions how it is run specially after the IPL debacle. Why stop lets create WTT (World task team) and let ICC run the boards. I know the PCB is not run properly, it is part of ICC and the concerns should be raised when it become member. This would be a bad example. I do miss cricket in Pakistan, I also want PCB to change but it should be by Pakistan not ICC.

  • Wazirabadi on July 6, 2011, 15:12 GMT

    Hats off to ICC, Sri Lanka has same issues. Its time we do something constructive for the game of cricket. Last few years have been terrible for Pak cricket. As usual we as a nation can not agree on simple things. Lets put our house in order

  • Venki_indian on July 6, 2011, 13:37 GMT

    good to see PTT to resolve the issues. but its india's decision to play or against against pak...no need for ICC's involvement

  • poderdubdubdub on July 6, 2011, 13:18 GMT

    I approve all these recommendations by the PTT. If Pakistan can not see its own wrongdoings then reformation must be imposed upon them in the interest of the poor Pakistani fans in particular and the cricket world at large. Well done ICC's Pakistan Task Team.

  • rzi-BDML on July 6, 2011, 13:15 GMT

    i think they suggested the right things, this was expected from a nutral task team. but the real question is, weather PCB admits the faults in their set up or not. Hoping for the best

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  • rzi-BDML on July 6, 2011, 13:15 GMT

    i think they suggested the right things, this was expected from a nutral task team. but the real question is, weather PCB admits the faults in their set up or not. Hoping for the best

  • poderdubdubdub on July 6, 2011, 13:18 GMT

    I approve all these recommendations by the PTT. If Pakistan can not see its own wrongdoings then reformation must be imposed upon them in the interest of the poor Pakistani fans in particular and the cricket world at large. Well done ICC's Pakistan Task Team.

  • Venki_indian on July 6, 2011, 13:37 GMT

    good to see PTT to resolve the issues. but its india's decision to play or against against pak...no need for ICC's involvement

  • Wazirabadi on July 6, 2011, 15:12 GMT

    Hats off to ICC, Sri Lanka has same issues. Its time we do something constructive for the game of cricket. Last few years have been terrible for Pak cricket. As usual we as a nation can not agree on simple things. Lets put our house in order

  • thair9999 on July 6, 2011, 15:19 GMT

    Lets set up a ICC ITT (India task team) and recommend suggestions how it is run specially after the IPL debacle. Why stop lets create WTT (World task team) and let ICC run the boards. I know the PCB is not run properly, it is part of ICC and the concerns should be raised when it become member. This would be a bad example. I do miss cricket in Pakistan, I also want PCB to change but it should be by Pakistan not ICC.

  • on July 6, 2011, 16:12 GMT

    How about an overhaul of the ICC first.

  • Caveman. on July 6, 2011, 16:22 GMT

    Lol! ICC wants government out of cricket boards, but they dictate who should play who irrespective of the political climate (thereby impinging on the sovereignty of the countries). I doubt if anything will come out of this. ICC --> International Clowns Council.

  • on July 6, 2011, 16:45 GMT

    @ Venki_indian..

    Actually its not India's decision. According to ICC there is a rule that every team should play against each test playing nation within a particular time period. Unfortunately, BCCI and India considers themselves bigger than the game. Technically - no its not India's decision to say no to Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe or anyone. But since might is right - than your argument is quite valid.

  • on July 6, 2011, 16:53 GMT

    @Venki: You keep your Indian team with you. Look at your statement - as long as ICC is dictating Pakistan, you are OK with that. But when ICC suggests that Pak / India should play, you dont want ICC to be involved? What kind of logic is that? Again, keep your team with you. We will revisit this issue, when you produce a fast bowler or someone who can bowl faster than Afridi!

  • on July 6, 2011, 17:56 GMT

    there should not be govt interfarance in board administration. But why only pakistan is asked to repair its structure does govt not involves in BCCI? ICC only dictates pak because our board does not admit every decion of icc. As a Pakistani we should to support our board and most of all our team and its loyal members. and finally i suggest that there should be not involvement of goverment in CRICKET.