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The Ashes 2010-11
Paine doesn't keep Haddin up at night
ESPNcricinfo staff
October 23, 2010
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The wicketkeeper Brad Haddin is not worried about his international place despite the impressive claims made by Tim Paine during the incumbent's absence. Haddin has returned to state action following a long-standing elbow problem that forced him to miss the Test series against Pakistan and India.
The time out gave Paine four games in the baggy green and he excelled with his glovework and batting, including registering two composed half-centuries. However, Haddin remains the selectors' first choice for the Ashes and he said he hadn't been thinking about his rival.
"All I've worried about is I'm available to play," he told AAP. "I've spent that long out of the game, no one has really crossed my thought process, it's just been about making sure I can get back and play cricket. Everyone has an opinion and that's never going to change and I'm not worried about anything else."
Rod Marsh, the former world record-holding gloveman, felt Paine had moved ahead of Haddin, but it would be a shock if Andrew Hilditch's panel went for the younger man against England. "I'm not one of those people who sit awake at night hoping someone nicks it or doesn't get runs," Haddin said. "I spent all my career behind [Adam Gilchrist] so those sorts of things haven't crossed my thoughts. I'm not worried about who's going well or who's not."
Haddin's comments came as Greg Chappell, Australia's newest selector, said it would soon be time to look to the future. "It is no secret that we have an ageing batting order and that is something we need to address," Chappell said. "And if you look at the batting, that's an area we have fallen down a couple of times over the last few years.
"Teams have always needed balance, genuine pace bowling works well in any era, aggressive spin bowling and aggressive batting also, but you've still got the need for the workmanlike players to hold things together, so it's getting that right balance. I think we've got enough flair players in the batting, Ricky Ponting scores his runs quickly, Michael Clarke makes his runs at a good pace when he's going, so we need to get the balance and the combinations right."
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Niaz Ali Khan sure it's your own analysis and I feel sorry for you! A spinning pitch is not a dead pitch by the way - dead pitches result in draws and that does no team any favor with the rankings. When were the top players ducking and weaving in England? - the last time India went there and humbled England 1-0 in their home, thats when? India is #1 now no doubt - but not the undisputed leaders like Steve Waugh's Aus or 80s WI were and that's fair enough - until they win a 'series in SA or Aus they will not have the respect of everyone. Mind you that they have won tests there already whereas teams like Pak and SL haven't. It just means that the other teams aren't better than them! (Eng is #4 - let them come up to #2 first, SL havent done anything outside of their country, SA - what about winning Aus in their home first? and enough is said about Aus already) But that doesn't mean India can be discounted , it is just that the race is tighter which always makes for more exciting cricket!
Posted by Proteas123 on (October 26, 2010, 11:01 GMT)Think Aus will do well with Haddin or Pain, depending on what they are looking for. Pain looks a good long term option though. @ Peter Bryant - Agreed, SA and Eng are probably the best teams but with Aus close behind. India are the strongest in India only. Lets see how India go in SA and if they win then we can start to look at India as the top team but not until then. The rankings are definitely not credible.
Posted bywell well welll ... Indian players cant bat brilliantly on pace tracks as they do on slow tracks .. but still they are at par to any batsman in current England batting line up on any track ..if England batsmen are so good on pace tracks y cant they score a triple hundred on those tracks when sehwag can score them on spin tracks.. yes .. england looks like a stronger team for this ashes as they got well balanced spin & pace attack .. and very good lower order batsmen like morgan ...
it would be interesting to see how aussies will come back to ashes after the fresh humiliation in india
Posted by MartoAus on (October 24, 2010, 22:55 GMT)Haddin is rubbish. If he played for any other state he would not get a look-in. Paine is a better 'keeper and batsman, Haddin is an irresponsible poor-man's Gilchrist. I would also have Matthew Wade ahead of Haddin. Everyone is sick and tired of this NSW selection bias.
Posted by@Peter,i am ompletely agree with you.In my point of view,England at the present is much better team than Australia and way way superior than India.If you see the latest record,Eng won Ashes,T20 world cup,successive series.They have top quality spin in the form of Swann,great bating line up, Morgan,Strasuss, Collingwood,aggressive pace attack in the form of Broad,Finn,Anderson. Aus is struggling,but still a good side. Talking about India,well,i don,t consider them in the race.They were kicked out from two consecetive t20 world cups in the first stage.They haven,t proved theirselves outside India. They can play only on sub continent dead pitches.You didn,t look their top players looking auckward and ugly while playing the bouncers in Eng etc. Its my own analysis so if any body disgree,i feel sorry for them
Posted by Icyman on (October 24, 2010, 16:48 GMT)I never liked Haddin much. Paine should take his place as he has excelled behind the stumps and it would be a 'very biased' selection indeed should Haddin get the nod over Paine. Let Haddin play some domestic games and then wrest his place back. At present, I do not find anything wrong about Paine's glovework.
Posted by ABdareVinniers on (October 24, 2010, 12:40 GMT)Tim Paine should be keeping him up at night. I'd say Paine is definitely the better batsman of the 2. As for keeping, I'd say they are neck and neck.
Posted by jazzaaaaaaaa on (October 24, 2010, 12:37 GMT)Personally I think Wade is better then both Paine and Haddin. A better keeper then both of them and as far as batting goes, he scores more freely then Paine yet he is still more technically solid in defence then Haddin. Not only that, but he scores runs at crucial times like in the Shield final last season and just last night he scored at century off about 80 balls when Victoria were 5/90 odd in the ODD cup.
Posted byreplying to peter. if our team only performs in india then your team only performs in england. forgot how india beat u in ur own backyard test series in 07(last time we toured england for a test series) forgot how u were thrashed 5-0 in odis and 1-0 in tests last time u toured india? forgot the ashes 5-0? beating teams like bangladesh,pakistan in your own country should not make you proud. Lets see what your team does in AUS.
Posted by@peter bryant
did u forget 6-0 drubbing vs India or six sixes.I can put forward the same ques y ur batsmen dont score in spinner friendly track like in India.We can beat u any time.Whe have a much better bench strength than u.........And most important u can never become no1 in the world