Australia v England, 3rd Test, Perth December 15, 2010

Captaincy decision not in my hands - Ponting

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The next five days could determine Ricky Ponting's future but the decision over whether he stays as captain is ultimately out of his hands. Australia have to prevent England from winning the third Test in Perth to retain any hope of regaining the Ashes and save Ponting from becoming Australia's first three-time loser of the urn in 120 years.

At a time of so many "what ifs" for the hosts, Ponting is trying not to peer towards the horizon, but that is impossible in his team's current state. He is realistic enough to know that his future could be decided as soon as the end of this match.

"Probably not a decision for me to make," Ponting said when asked if he would still be captain if Australia lost the Ashes. "I don't pick myself as captain so, look, in all honestly, I haven't thought about that at all.

"The decision's completely out of my hands. At the end of the day, I'll do my best to make sure we're on a winning end this week and I'll do my best as a player to make sure I score runs and lead the team the best way possible. Then the powers that be will make those decisions I guess at the end of the series, or after this Test match."

If Ponting was in peak batting form the questions over his future would hold less substance, but he has struggled to 70 runs in this series and has not had an impact on the campaign. Ponting is both the game's most successful captain, with 47 wins in 75 matches, and the ruler of a unit that has lost most of its powers with the departure of key personnel over the past four years.

Three new faces have come into the squad for this game and Ponting is in a situation where he can't trust his bowling attack or rely on his batsmen for big runs. He remains the only great player in Australia's side, but he will be 36 on Monday and is in a battle to hang on.

There have been no hundreds in his last eight Tests and he will walk out at the WACA with the memories of receiving a tenderised left elbow from a Kemar Roach short ball in the game here last year. That bruise forced his first retired hurt and he has been struggling for sustained form and fluency ever since.

After the innings defeat in Adelaide, Ponting had five days off and tried not to think about the series. Compartmentalisation is a key attribute for any leader, but there would be no way Ponting could have escaped from all the disruptions and criticism of himself and his team. He remains relaxed in public but is a man under extreme pressure.

"I know a lot of our success revolves around how well our batting does at the top of the order and my input in the series so far hasn't been what it's needed to be for us to win games," he said. "So purely and simply I need to stand up, I need to score runs and we need to play better cricket than we have in the last two Test matches."

Australia last lost a home Ashes series in the depressing summer of 1986-87 and this campaign is already evoking similar feelings among the home supporters. The bowlers have taken only 16 wickets in the opening two matches and England's batsmen have dominated in gaining a 1-0 series advantage. One thing in Australia's favour is that the green WACA pitch is looking like providing a result.

"Obviously that has to be a positive one for us or it's game, set and match," he said. "We are priming ourselves to play our best game so far in the series and we know we have to do it by a long way if we want to win the game."

Peter English is the Australasia editor of Cricinfo

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  • JustOUT on December 16, 2010, 10:08 GMT

    Ricky, it will be very sad if you retire after losing the Ashes at home turf. The batsman of your calibre should retire on high. But its fate that your bad days both as captain and batsman affecting you alot. All the best.

  • on December 16, 2010, 7:00 GMT

    Dear Ricky, You are the main reason for Australian decline in test cricket. You have lost the edge in captaincy, you lack the clear thinking for field placements and bowling changes. Your batting has declined and it has contributed to team pressure and that has caused erosion in team's moral and general decline in team's composure and performance. Tosy Australian

  • on December 16, 2010, 6:29 GMT

    to be a good captain u should be like a king who's never sacred like waugh n pollard (who r mentally very strong n fight to death n never scared). ricky is good captain too. replacing ricky with clarke is just foolish. clarke has no great quality to become a captain. infact he's exactly opposite to a fighter. i've seen him scared to death in many situations on field. u can see it in his face. he's just jovial n good person. captaincy to him is foolish. mike hussey is a good fighter, if not great. at present ricky is the only 1 capable. even waugh cannot win any match if he captains NZ or banglad. the problem is in the selection process as waugh stated.

  • gilly007 on December 16, 2010, 6:24 GMT

    Everyone saying that ponting without the great players is a poor captain should check the facts. With this team, ponting had won the champions league - the second largest tournament after the world cup. With an even younger team he beat India 4-2. And he has won the test series in south africa which the current No. 1 has never done... Just because the first two tests went badly, doesnt mean ponting is a poor captain or that Australia are finished... They are still alive and kicking........

  • Alexk400 on December 16, 2010, 5:43 GMT

    Aussie's problem directly due to Greg Chappell.. his method of chop chop chop anything. He changes his mind in selection too soon. He wants immediate result. Life is slow in that way.

    He is the da main reason for aussie's bad selection this year ASHES.

  • on December 16, 2010, 5:40 GMT

    Interesting call... think abt retirement....

  • Ayo4Yayo on December 16, 2010, 5:26 GMT

    Ponting was never a great captain nor a great player. Proof of this is when he had great players around him in his team, he hardly had to do any work. He had full backup of good batsmen like hayden, gilChrist and good bowlers like glen mcgrath. He was never put under pressure as his teammates were taking care of that. And under NO pressure, he used to score runs freely. Now that those good ol players are gone, ponting is mostly put under pressure. He hardly scores now and it shows that he was never a great batsman, its just players who were around him made him famous.

  • peterstich on December 16, 2010, 5:26 GMT

    Yes. Aussies were dominating cricketing world because of the quality of talent they had. And the aussies should understand it will take time to get even closer to that sort of dominance. Changing captain is certainly not going to do magic overnight... especially when they are in between of a series. And one thing aussie management didn't try in the series is change of roles. Hussey to me is their best batsman at the moment and he should be coming at 4th for sure. Clarke is not upto his fullest and if performance is the criteria to drop someone, he should be the first. Watson is certainly playing better than others, but he should be in the side as bowling allrounder and not as opener. Aussies need 2 very strong batsmen at their top. If Clarke has to stay in the side, he should be given a chance to open, along with maybe Katich or Shaun Marsh. Then follows Ponting, Hussey, White, Watson, Haddin, Smith, Johnson, Siddle and Hilfenhaus. That would add some competition for captaincy as well.

  • AB99 on December 16, 2010, 5:01 GMT

    @kjsbond1: If Ponting announces his retirement at the end of the world cup - and IF austraila wins the WC, then he would have won three - this is what i had meant. @akkilim - you are spot on about ponting and he is paying the price of his arrogance and deeds

  • cricPassion2009 on December 16, 2010, 4:34 GMT

    It is absurd to call for Ponting's head. Media is building up pressure on this great batsman - looks like if he bats well he'll be hailed as a great captain. Common irony this - temporary loss of form leads to all-round misery.

  • JustOUT on December 16, 2010, 10:08 GMT

    Ricky, it will be very sad if you retire after losing the Ashes at home turf. The batsman of your calibre should retire on high. But its fate that your bad days both as captain and batsman affecting you alot. All the best.

  • on December 16, 2010, 7:00 GMT

    Dear Ricky, You are the main reason for Australian decline in test cricket. You have lost the edge in captaincy, you lack the clear thinking for field placements and bowling changes. Your batting has declined and it has contributed to team pressure and that has caused erosion in team's moral and general decline in team's composure and performance. Tosy Australian

  • on December 16, 2010, 6:29 GMT

    to be a good captain u should be like a king who's never sacred like waugh n pollard (who r mentally very strong n fight to death n never scared). ricky is good captain too. replacing ricky with clarke is just foolish. clarke has no great quality to become a captain. infact he's exactly opposite to a fighter. i've seen him scared to death in many situations on field. u can see it in his face. he's just jovial n good person. captaincy to him is foolish. mike hussey is a good fighter, if not great. at present ricky is the only 1 capable. even waugh cannot win any match if he captains NZ or banglad. the problem is in the selection process as waugh stated.

  • gilly007 on December 16, 2010, 6:24 GMT

    Everyone saying that ponting without the great players is a poor captain should check the facts. With this team, ponting had won the champions league - the second largest tournament after the world cup. With an even younger team he beat India 4-2. And he has won the test series in south africa which the current No. 1 has never done... Just because the first two tests went badly, doesnt mean ponting is a poor captain or that Australia are finished... They are still alive and kicking........

  • Alexk400 on December 16, 2010, 5:43 GMT

    Aussie's problem directly due to Greg Chappell.. his method of chop chop chop anything. He changes his mind in selection too soon. He wants immediate result. Life is slow in that way.

    He is the da main reason for aussie's bad selection this year ASHES.

  • on December 16, 2010, 5:40 GMT

    Interesting call... think abt retirement....

  • Ayo4Yayo on December 16, 2010, 5:26 GMT

    Ponting was never a great captain nor a great player. Proof of this is when he had great players around him in his team, he hardly had to do any work. He had full backup of good batsmen like hayden, gilChrist and good bowlers like glen mcgrath. He was never put under pressure as his teammates were taking care of that. And under NO pressure, he used to score runs freely. Now that those good ol players are gone, ponting is mostly put under pressure. He hardly scores now and it shows that he was never a great batsman, its just players who were around him made him famous.

  • peterstich on December 16, 2010, 5:26 GMT

    Yes. Aussies were dominating cricketing world because of the quality of talent they had. And the aussies should understand it will take time to get even closer to that sort of dominance. Changing captain is certainly not going to do magic overnight... especially when they are in between of a series. And one thing aussie management didn't try in the series is change of roles. Hussey to me is their best batsman at the moment and he should be coming at 4th for sure. Clarke is not upto his fullest and if performance is the criteria to drop someone, he should be the first. Watson is certainly playing better than others, but he should be in the side as bowling allrounder and not as opener. Aussies need 2 very strong batsmen at their top. If Clarke has to stay in the side, he should be given a chance to open, along with maybe Katich or Shaun Marsh. Then follows Ponting, Hussey, White, Watson, Haddin, Smith, Johnson, Siddle and Hilfenhaus. That would add some competition for captaincy as well.

  • AB99 on December 16, 2010, 5:01 GMT

    @kjsbond1: If Ponting announces his retirement at the end of the world cup - and IF austraila wins the WC, then he would have won three - this is what i had meant. @akkilim - you are spot on about ponting and he is paying the price of his arrogance and deeds

  • cricPassion2009 on December 16, 2010, 4:34 GMT

    It is absurd to call for Ponting's head. Media is building up pressure on this great batsman - looks like if he bats well he'll be hailed as a great captain. Common irony this - temporary loss of form leads to all-round misery.

  • on December 16, 2010, 4:27 GMT

    One thing to be noted is Ricky was successful till he has warne, mcgrath, hayden and gilly. These people played till the last WC and assisted Ricky in all means. So for these kind of players no captaincy is required, they will do their best even in tough conditions. Since the 4 legends left, now Ricky is facing the chin music. If the captaincy has been given to gilly at that time, Ricky might have fine tuned by this time and he would have been a great captain by now. I agree that he is a class player and score as many runs for Australia and lead from the front, but what he lacks is discipline and sportsman ship which is very important for any captain. Now the ACB is making the same mistake with Michael Clarke promoting him to be the next captain. This should be strongly denied, as clarke has to learn a lot in cricket. After Ricky, the captaincy should be given either to Mike or Watson. We should keep clarke and north in bench and bring marsh and white in to action, so they get tuned.

  • shreeeks on December 16, 2010, 4:22 GMT

    Ricky had a great team in the past and his record as a captain is mostly because of that. He no longer has a decent team and he doesn't seem to be getting the best out of the current team, thats a fact. Hes probably not one of the better captains. His individual performance stands out..he is a legend. They all have their time though and it feels bad when everyone calls for their head. They need to continue performing or step down and its Ricky's time to move out gracefully.

  • suresh_sksj on December 16, 2010, 3:30 GMT

    changes changes....what difference it makes...the same story....Ricky it's time u decide about your future ASAP else you will be down the drain soon.... I recollect a line from Clint Eastwood's movie Magnum Force ...." A man should know his limitations "......guess Ricky does not know that....and that Rome did not last for ever, he should accept the fact that CHANGE is the only thing in the world that's permanent...and it's other teams time to come up and dominate world cricket....Ausies you days of domination is done with....accept the fact...even Chappel, Healy, Shane, Billy, Slates...in the commentry team keep talking of Ausies coming back and dominating again.....god..... where do these people come from.....it's now time for Eng, Ind, SA to dominate guys....time over for Ausies....the quick you guys digest that the better.....

  • on December 16, 2010, 3:00 GMT

    Ponting is forever great player as well as leader of the team but its a bad time for him as well as Australia and Cricket Australia .

  • sona123 on December 16, 2010, 2:27 GMT

    Dear viewer,Ricky Ponting is best Cricket and captain for Australia in Present team .If you see there is no another Strong contender for Constancy in present team.So please its request to AUSTRALIAN CRICKET LOVER & AUSTRALIAN MEDIA to back-up for pointing to make him boost. Please note Australian Team is now without Hyden,Gilchrist,Martyn, McGrath and Shane Warner and it take time to hail this important places in line-up . PONTING IS INNOCENT

  • Raju_Iyer on December 16, 2010, 2:17 GMT

    To Richard Pittams - Dude, did you not read Asher CA's post? The reason the infamous Sydney test is being remembered in a comments blog is not because it had anything to do with umpiring errors (which, as you rightly pointed out happen all the time), but because it had everything to do with Ricky the captain. I am a great admirer of Ricky the batsman - in my opinion he is right up there with Sachin and other greats, no question about it, but Ricky the captain is a completely different story. Can't forget his blunders at Mohali when he allowed India to get away, to avoid being banned for the next test!

  • belichick007 on December 16, 2010, 2:12 GMT

    Ponting should be retained as caption and batsmen at this point. I dont think australia is ready to transition into Post Ponting era yet. Its really useful for the youngsters to stick around ponting and mature faster. So although we are not seeing best of Ponting as batsmen and mabye as captain, clearly there is more downside in removing him in either capacity. I have a feeling he is just very close to a century for sure and at least get some second wind. Chuck

  • Meety on December 16, 2010, 1:38 GMT

    @Gilly4ever - so your spruiking a Mike Brearly style captain. The last time we had a captain that was not quite worthy of the position it ended in tears. White can only be considered as captain if he is secure in the side. Therefor if Punter is deemed to not be worthy of captaincy it has to go to somebody stable. The front runners therefor is Clarke, Haddin & Watto. Whilst White scored a ton against the Poms in Hobart (it was very chancey), he laboured over a 2+ hrs for 20 odd runs against them for Victoria. His case recently in ODIs (this summer has not been compelling despite an improvement previously). White probably should captain the T20 side, (that being said Pup is a good captain but probably should not play as a batsmen in T20s - read as a spinner - batting at about 8 or 9 as his offies are not esy to get away!) For the time being Punter is the only option, perhaps the brains trust around him need to be scrutinized - read Tim Neilson, & Hilditch!

  • Timmuh on December 16, 2010, 0:42 GMT

    Ponting has been an average captain at best. But calls to bring Cameron White in are well wide of the mark. He probably is the best tactician at first class level in Australia, but he is not a Terst quality player. Like one of the selectors, Jamie Cox, a good first class player without Test match ability. The captain has to come from the best eleven, it should not be "pick a captain and ten to fit around him". Once he is back, Katich would be my pick for the short term. After that, I don't see any captaincy material in, or near, the Test team.

  • sammykent on December 16, 2010, 0:00 GMT

    As soon as things are not going well the Australian media and public are swift to demand heads. Sure the Australian team has not performed as well as they would have liked but conversely the English have been in great touch. 10 English wickets fell on the first day on a pitch that offered something and that should not be forgotten. Punter needs to be bowling first and his team need to be energetic and excited. Some runs would help for Ponting and no doubt a win for Australia will have the media and public doing backflips in a millisecond.

  • on December 16, 2010, 0:00 GMT

    When is everyone going to get over the Sydney test? Umpires make mistakes in every test but because India lost, somehow Australia cheated in that test.. Get over it. Ponting is a great player, but I think he wont get runs again.. Still even if Oz lose it wouldn't make much sense to drop him as captain mid series.

  • MinusZero on December 15, 2010, 23:56 GMT

    Haddin should be next captain.

  • bobagorof on December 15, 2010, 23:15 GMT

    I've never believed Ponting to be a great, or even good, captain. He's shown himself to be bereft of ideas when Plan A and B don't work, he regularly has had one of the other players front the media instead of himself after matches, and he is a poor sportsman. I feel some sympathy for him seeing the dynasty crumble around him and feeling his own superb batting prowess wane - he's no longer putting in the performances that got him selected. He's still a decent bat, but it's reasonable to ask whether he's better than 6 other batsmen in the country. He obviously wants to keep playing and prove his critics wrong, but he can't go on forever and plans need to be made for the post-Ponting era. The selectors need to decide when that era begins.

  • smudgeon on December 15, 2010, 23:00 GMT

    Ricky has done the best he can with the limited (& dwindling) resources he has. His captaincy lacks greatness, but then his apprenticeship was during Australia's best time - the team picked itself and was so dominant. His predecessors (Border, Taylor, Waugh) were all products of a team that, for the most part, really struggled. That sort of environment builds grit, determination, and creative thinking - and the by the time Waugh inherited the captaincy, he had a dream team at his command (15 years in the making). Unfortunately for Ponting, he's come at it from the other end, and as great a player he is, he's never really had to do it tough until the last 18 months. Having said that, I don't see any realistic alternatives as captain. White? Maybe, but he needs to cement a spot first. Paine? When Haddin retires, and with a couple of years experience, maybe. Clarke? Just seems to lack toughness. Ponting should be captain for at least the next year - until a real alternative presents...

  • landl47 on December 15, 2010, 22:46 GMT

    For once I agree with Gilly4ever. Ponting is a great player but has never been a great captain. The test of a great captain is what he does when things are going badly. In the early years of Ponting's captaincy that very rarely happened, which is why he piled up all those wins. In the last couple of years he hasn't had such a good team and Australia has looked very fallible. Cam White, on the evidence of the two games he has captained against England on this tour, is a much better captain, although obviously he isn't anywhere near Ponting's stature as a player. Bring him in and Australia will immediately start playing better cricket. Unfortunately, I don't think Ponting will keep playing if he is not captain, but as he is 36 on Monday and his performances have dropped off in the last 2 years, it's probably time for him to go anyway.

  • Parvez13 on December 15, 2010, 22:24 GMT

    Mann, I really feel bad for Ponting. Whatever the cause, it's sad to see him this way. And suddenly I am begining to realize that I'll actually miss him if he does retire. As much as I want tendulkar to come up on the top, I think it is the competition from ponting that keeps it so exciting. I really do hope he goes out with more dignity than some of my other peers are offering.

  • kjsbond1 on December 15, 2010, 19:23 GMT

    @AB99: As a captain, pointing had won only 2 world cups equalling Clive Lloyd's record. 1999 cup was won by steve waugh as a captain.

  • addiemanav on December 15, 2010, 18:15 GMT

    i was a strong critic of ricky ponting & his captaincy,hated him really bad!!especially after that sydney test of 2008,but lately i hav started feeling sorry for the guy..u love him or hate him,but fact is,he is the 2nd highest scorer in intl cricket overall alongwith 2WC wins & 50 test wins as captain..seriously,he has been a legend..hav to giv it to him..the guy deserves it!!he may not be tactically the greatest captain..he is the 2nd captain to lose ashes twice in eng in 100 years,but when u compare them to his achievements the downfall is almost laughable!!i agree that a lot of his success was because of the players he had in his side,but he still was the leader of the pack..he always lead from front & u cant take that away from him..he has managed to keep his cool even at this ridiculous time where a 'pshyco' chappel is giving him nightmares..any other playr might hav left it..i think he'll fight till the end,might lose,but still fight..ricky is a modern great..period..

  • 5wombats on December 15, 2010, 18:14 GMT

    .................... he's finished...................

  • akkilim on December 15, 2010, 17:42 GMT

    Ricky was never an great , remember him bowling hussey with Jason Kreja ( when shane watson was revesing the ball) , remember Nathan hauritz being dropped in england for final test, Remember Ricky using Cameroon while as specilist spinner in india, remember Australia loosing to SA at home Ideally an great captain is one who turns his medicore team into great one I wont be suprised if ricky plays with beer in this test, ideally he should have following team 1) Watson 2) Hughes 2) Ricky 4) Clarke ( remeber he can bowl spin better than beer 5) Hussey 6) Haddin 7) Smith ( Better bowler than beer) 8) M Johnson 9) Siddle 10)Hilfenaous 11) Harris

  • AsherCA on December 15, 2010, 17:29 GMT

    Characteristics of Mr. Ponting -

    1. Complain to match referees without sufficient facts. 2. Abuse a gentleman's agreement. 3. Encourage cheats in the side, disguised as professionals. 4. Presume that Integrity is not about being factually honest, just siding with his team members

    All traits he showed at Sydney in 2008. Worse - he is still to apologize to the cricket world for all the hooliganism & cheating displayed by his band of crooks at Sydney, all just to get the longest winning streak in cricket history against his name !

    Great indeed !

  • SPKay on December 15, 2010, 17:23 GMT

    "Pick 11 guys and make the best man your captain". That mantra has always worked for Australia, and Ponting is their best player by a mile. No reason for him to lose the captaincy or his place in the side.

  • cricket_fan10 on December 15, 2010, 17:10 GMT

    Must be really very nervous for ponting, this match is going to decide where the series is heading and so ponting's carreer. 1 more loss and it would be bye bye Ricky. This is Ashes at its very best ...

  • on December 15, 2010, 17:02 GMT

    ricky turns 36, surely signs of withering!!!!!!!!!! he,s been one of the best batsmn but iz unable 2 handle d presure. so, better hang out his shoes n hope aus wins the urn under someon else

  • on December 15, 2010, 16:31 GMT

    I honestly can't understand why people are presuming that no one can replace ponting as a captian. They have to try new people as captain before coming to that conclusion. It took time even for India to find the right person to find dhoni as the right man. They have to take a risk, without that change is impossible to attain.It will not happen that a guy will come in with a board I am the right captain.The search has to be on.

  • cricket_for_all on December 15, 2010, 15:58 GMT

    There is no body to replace Ricky in AUS team. He is doing his maximum with the team that he is given. He can't play for others (Due to lots of pressure he fails in his own batting too) and He should be the WC caption. There is no a single confident strike bowler in AUS team. He can only rotate the bowler but it is bowlers' responsibility to take wickets. He can ask Watson stay longer in the pitch but he can't push him (As Watson just loose his temper once he gets 50 and getting out).

  • on December 15, 2010, 15:44 GMT

    @Vaseem Khan....I totally agree. Why Pakistan were so good in 90s? (or any other team in 90s) because they had good players who were commited to play and win games for thier country. I think the decade of 90s has something special in modern cricket where cricket was at its peak. But now that passion is missing from players. Players know that they"ll get paid at the end of the day. Coming to the issue, I dont think its Ponting to be blamed, honestly they dont have good player at the moment who can win them matches like warne, martin, gilly, mcgrath, gillespy, langer even symmonds (century against Pakistan in world cup 2003 when Aus were 80/4). Now Ponting will come to know that how difficult it is to win with young talent. I wanna praise Inzamam in this regard coz Pakistan were somehow fighting in his time (2003-2008), Pakistan was at 5 in both test and ODI ranking but now, 7 in both forms.

  • YoBro on December 15, 2010, 15:29 GMT

    That's what you get with evil Greg as selector/coach..you name it. He'll start chopping and changing and leave the team in tatters by the time he's done. Merv was a lot steadier and had a sensible head on his shoulders and looked out for the long term. You don't just fire your leading bowler for a bad game. That's stupid. Greg did the same thing to India.

  • cricketeria on December 15, 2010, 15:08 GMT

    Making Michael Clarke the captain won't make them start winning, unless Ponting starts making more runs without the pressure of captaincy. Not likely because his run-making record as captain is quite good. So even if Aus lose all these tests, changing the captain won't make a difference. It's not like they have a Warne waiting to take over. The others are no better than Ponting. Also he's still got some runs in him, can't drop him just yet.

  • passionate_cricket_follower on December 15, 2010, 14:34 GMT

    cricket is a great leveler Mr Ponting! nobody forgets your arrogance when u pushed out Mr Sharad Pawar off the stage to celebrate the champion's trophy win. u haven't learned to respect people. another instance was when u said "If you question my integrity, you shouldn't be here!" to a journalist after that infamous Sydney test. Now Mr Pawar is the ICC President, and you find yourself in the position you r in! All the best!

  • backwardpoint on December 15, 2010, 14:12 GMT

    @Rocky Gomes. Did you mean Dhoni? I guess I didnt hear you clearly : Dhoni? You are possibly making the same error you are accusing the rest of - Assuming that he is a great captain when the team is very good.

  • Naren on December 15, 2010, 14:04 GMT

    There are lot of jokers out here who keep saying you don't need a captain when you had Mcgrath and Warne etc.. I can understand with Ponting captaining, but when Waugh came it was not an entirely settled side. Also he was the one who made the team aggressive and he had a role for sure. India has Sehwag, Tendulkar and Dravid for a long time, but was it easy captaining India until Dhoni came in?

  • Amit_M_Naik on December 15, 2010, 13:33 GMT

    As a die hard Indian cricket and therefore Sachin Tendulkar fan, every time I watch Ponting bat, I must admit that a part of me always wants him to fail, purely to see Sachin surge ahead with the test hundreds race. I must admit though, behind Sachin, Sehwag and Laxman, Ponting is the only other test batsman that consistently captivates me. As a result I'm saddened to see his fall from grace so rapidly and would sincerely love to see him score and score big in this test match (I think Tendulkar's won the race anyway). It would be good to also see Australia bring the series level. Whilst having a dominant Aussie team wasn't necessarily great for world cricket in recent times, having an equally crippled one is far worse. Lets see this English team tested.

  • on December 15, 2010, 13:09 GMT

    A great captain is a great schemer. Ponting is a terrible schemer, he is more of a lead-by-example type. As a batsman he is one of the best ever, as a captain you can say he is mediocre at best.

    Ricky should resign from the captaincy post-haste and move down the order to number 5. Bring Cameron White into the team as captain. I can see Clarke being given the captaincy, but this attitude towards Clarke having a divine right to the next captaincy pretty much underlines the 'mates' attitude that is killing Australian cricket.

  • on December 15, 2010, 12:52 GMT

    at the moment no one have the caliber to replace Ponting for sure..they talk about Micheal clarke but i feel he is not up to the task yet. The Aussie captain is such a wonderful and above all one most superb cricketer of our time...people calls for his head but do u think that can bring smile on your face ? no way folks !!!!!!! What Ponting got to make sure is that he should score heavily at perth to take back his side to the winning ways !!!!! bowlers r not performing the way he expected so its a collective failure of all who played the test match...Its always tough when u don't have quality bowlers like Mcgrath & Warne...but still what makes me love him is he is ready guide this young team to a winning side...Go Aussie Go !!! Love & Gud Luck from John Bangalore..

  • AB99 on December 15, 2010, 12:37 GMT

    Ricky Ponting ... go before they throw you out ... you are a great batsman but it seems the best is behing you ... learn from the mistakes of the past three Aussie captians (Border, Taylor, S Waugh) and leave before you are made to go ... announce the swan song as the world cup and retire as the only skipper who has won three world cups ... something that even Clive Llyod was not able to do ...

  • on December 15, 2010, 12:31 GMT

    Ricky Ponting and Steve Waugh earned a name as great captains. But is it wholly true? What special tricks do you need to know to be great captains when you have players like Warne, McGrath, Hayden, Gilly...? The reason Ponting struggling as captain is simple: his men are not performing. A great captain is someone who can get best out of whatever he has got. In that line, Sourav, Dhoni, Imran and Arjuna fair much higher than Ponting and Waugh. It's time for truth to show up its face--which it is doing right now.

  • Zahidsaltin on December 15, 2010, 12:21 GMT

    I pray for Australian win because I think cricket will be poor without punter. I feel that time is near when we are gona lose Ponting, Tandulkar and Dravid but I hope they can stay a year or two more. It has already been a tough time with Warne, McGrath, Murali, Inzi, Gilchrist, Jaysuria, Hyden all vanishing very short ago. I loved to see Mohammad Amer and the Magician Asif sharing the new ball but they seem to be gone too due to their own stupidity. Let us find some new heroes of this beautifull game before you people leave.

  • on December 15, 2010, 12:13 GMT

    Friends...next match..australia going to win within 4 days....Best of luck. Coz if Aus loose this match there will no crowd for Boxing day as well as for 2nd Jan.. So poms...u going to loose this match as well as the Series..b rest assured

  • Point4 on December 15, 2010, 12:00 GMT

    @Cricket_is_the_winner your post contains precisely the reason why Ponting should not be captaining.If the better side always need to win ,SA would have won the 96 and 99 WC,2005 Ashes would not be won by Eng and there are endless other instances.A GOOD/Great captain should be able to make his team punch way above its weight ESPECIALLY when members are mostly rookies.(5/6 Aus players have less than 10 test matches under their belt)It needs a different kind of vision,TEMPERAMENT,perception and management which tragically Ponting is not capable of.

  • on December 15, 2010, 11:58 GMT

    australia will just head downhill if they sack ponting. he's the best man for the job

  • on December 15, 2010, 11:51 GMT

    It is very clear that Captain doesn't deserve too much appreciation as it has been in cricket ....this is a team game indeed, what is Ricky doing....can perform only from bat but can't bat for other member of team. Gone are the day when Justin Langer, Waucg brother..Damien Martin...and above all coming in bad situation and score centuries ADAM GILCHRIST. I have memories when Justin Langer and Adam saved the match from Pakistan...Damiyen and Gillespy from India in India...and the result favoured to Ausies for whole the series other wise they would have lost both series....and this is not 2 time but several time...double hundred in South Africa from GILLY......SO WHERE IS THE LEGECY...make captain either Steve, Taylor or Ricky or Bring back Allan Border....this is team game dear...and Captain doesn't need that kind of respect that is available in cricket automatically. 1000s of reader may not agree with me but it is VERY TRUE...NO COACHES NO CAPTAIN..BUT TEAM..

  • stormy16 on December 15, 2010, 11:33 GMT

    Its easy to blame the captain but the real issue the guys arent performing. Some say a great captain is able to get the best out of a team...may be and Ricky never needed to do this - hey I could have captained a side with Mcgrath, Warne and Gilly and still won everything despite me failing to score runs, take wickets and drop catches. The point is who is the replacement? Clark - may be but thats the point - there isnt an obvious choice. My call is stick with Ricky till the WC and then make a change but not now.

  • bboynexus on December 15, 2010, 11:25 GMT

    "Only great player".

    Have we forgotten a certain Michael Hussey at home?

  • Something_Witty on December 15, 2010, 11:06 GMT

    I really feel for Ricky. He is a legend and one of the best first drops of all time. He deserves to be remembered for his incredible batting prowess and charisma at the crease. He does NOT deserve to leave the game as "the man who lost the ashes three times", even though that is what is currently most likely to happen.

  • Go_F.Alonso on December 15, 2010, 11:03 GMT

    As much as I hold the grudge against Ponting (of a supporter who's team was trounced time and again in Australia), I actually agree with @Cricket_is_the_Winner. There's nothing Australia can gain by stripping Ponting of his captaincy. Clarke is like a broken toy that only works occasionally.

  • on December 15, 2010, 10:45 GMT

    Go Punter.. Get a huge score and shut everyone else up. This guy is a legend and deserves to leave the game as one..

  • Ozcricketwriter on December 15, 2010, 10:43 GMT

    Bring Cameron White in as captain but retain Ponting as a batsman. Ponting is too good a player to be dumped entirely but Ponting simply lacks the tactical knowledge that is required with a less than ideal team. Cameron White has shown that is is the best tactician in Australia.

  • satzcrazy1 on December 15, 2010, 10:35 GMT

    This is stupid... Im from India and i always like ricky's attitude and i still believe he is the better captain in the world. The selectors should persist with the bunch of players, even if they are not in great form, changing members in a team will always affect the morale of the team. You can't blindly blame ricky for the recent losses of Australian Team. Without Ricky also Australia lost to Srilanka in their home turf in one dayers. Only thing ricky is lagging is his batting, which he normally does well. Come on Ricky, comeback with blazing centuries and show england what you are mad up of.

  • on December 15, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    its clearly that, australia go underpressure very deeply

  • on December 15, 2010, 10:29 GMT

    hiiii....................................absolutely. i truelu agree with u.

  • Aussasinator on December 15, 2010, 10:26 GMT

    He himself is worried more about his runs and elbow. Captaining the team has never been an area of focus.It has somehow stuck to him despite defeat after defeat.

  • on December 15, 2010, 10:25 GMT

    Ponting is a good player n some time ups and down happens so no point in axing him from captaincy..

  • on December 15, 2010, 10:22 GMT

    AUSTRALIA CAN ACHEIVE NOTHING IF THEY SACK PONTING.....

  • rshn on December 15, 2010, 10:01 GMT

    na na nah na... hey hey hey! Good Bye...........

  • Cricket_is_the_Winner on December 15, 2010, 9:42 GMT

    I do not see what Australian Cricket would currently achieve by taking the Captaincy away from Ricky Ponting. Yes he has lost the Ashes twice, 2005 was just an incredible series and could have gone either way so many times. 2009 England were the all round better side and we all know that England are currently the better side. The ICC Test Rankings for one show this, England have dominated all but the first day of this series.

    What benefit would it be to take the captaincy/drop Ponting from the Test team?

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  • Cricket_is_the_Winner on December 15, 2010, 9:42 GMT

    I do not see what Australian Cricket would currently achieve by taking the Captaincy away from Ricky Ponting. Yes he has lost the Ashes twice, 2005 was just an incredible series and could have gone either way so many times. 2009 England were the all round better side and we all know that England are currently the better side. The ICC Test Rankings for one show this, England have dominated all but the first day of this series.

    What benefit would it be to take the captaincy/drop Ponting from the Test team?

  • rshn on December 15, 2010, 10:01 GMT

    na na nah na... hey hey hey! Good Bye...........

  • on December 15, 2010, 10:22 GMT

    AUSTRALIA CAN ACHEIVE NOTHING IF THEY SACK PONTING.....

  • on December 15, 2010, 10:25 GMT

    Ponting is a good player n some time ups and down happens so no point in axing him from captaincy..

  • Aussasinator on December 15, 2010, 10:26 GMT

    He himself is worried more about his runs and elbow. Captaining the team has never been an area of focus.It has somehow stuck to him despite defeat after defeat.

  • on December 15, 2010, 10:29 GMT

    hiiii....................................absolutely. i truelu agree with u.

  • on December 15, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    its clearly that, australia go underpressure very deeply

  • satzcrazy1 on December 15, 2010, 10:35 GMT

    This is stupid... Im from India and i always like ricky's attitude and i still believe he is the better captain in the world. The selectors should persist with the bunch of players, even if they are not in great form, changing members in a team will always affect the morale of the team. You can't blindly blame ricky for the recent losses of Australian Team. Without Ricky also Australia lost to Srilanka in their home turf in one dayers. Only thing ricky is lagging is his batting, which he normally does well. Come on Ricky, comeback with blazing centuries and show england what you are mad up of.

  • Ozcricketwriter on December 15, 2010, 10:43 GMT

    Bring Cameron White in as captain but retain Ponting as a batsman. Ponting is too good a player to be dumped entirely but Ponting simply lacks the tactical knowledge that is required with a less than ideal team. Cameron White has shown that is is the best tactician in Australia.

  • on December 15, 2010, 10:45 GMT

    Go Punter.. Get a huge score and shut everyone else up. This guy is a legend and deserves to leave the game as one..