The Investec Ashes 2013 August 14, 2013

The defeat was 'gutting' - Warner

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David Warner has described Australia's defeat at Chester-le-Street as "gutting" given their strong position at tea on the fourth day and said the batsmen needed to look to Chris Rogers for an example of how to work in challenging conditions. Warner and Rogers put on 109 for the opening partnership in Australia's chase of 299 but once that stand was broken, the wickets all tumbled for 115 runs.

Warner played a mature innings of 71, mixing patience with considered stroke-making, but when he was caught behind off Tim Bresnan to leave the score at 168 for 3, the Australians collapsed. Warner said the feeling in the dressing room was one of disbelief as Stuart Broad ran through the batting line-up and a target that had looked gettable suddenly began to appear out of reach for the Australians.

"It was gutting," Warner said. "I went to have a shower. It took me half an hour to get over my dismissal. When I came out we had lost three quick wickets. I still can't believe it happened so fast and it finished [on Monday]. I just thought if we hung in there and got through that tough period of Broad's spell we could have come back and finished it off by lunchtime [Tuesday], but we lost. It's our fault, the batters.

"We were just talking about it just before, what goes through our minds when we walk out there and how rowdy the crowd was. It does help having the home [crowd] behind you and you know you've just got to try to get through that tough spell. As an opener I feel the hardest part for me is getting myself in and then I can relax with the crowd environment.

"But I know the feeling when the guys come in. When I first came back and I got booed walking out at Manchester I felt real nervy. I felt real small. I felt that everything was against me. And I can just imagine how some of the guys felt yesterday coming in when we lost those quick wickets. But at the end of the day we did get knocked over and it was quite disappointing."

The coach Darren Lehmann spoke after the match of his disappointment at the fact that too many of the batsmen had failed to play straight in conditions that demanded such discipline. Warner said the Australian batsmen who take a more aggressive approach could take note of the way Rogers played during his first-innings hundred, when he left outside off and made the bowlers come to him, and waited for the bad balls to score from.

"Especially for the guys who like to play their shots and like to feel bat on ball, we need to know how to rein it in and then we know we're going to get those bad balls," Warner said. "Perfect example is looking at Ian Bell, anything we've bowled to him straight at the stumps he's defended back to the bowler and probably 80% of the runs he's scored in this series have been through cover and point.

"He's waiting and being patient. It's exactly what Bucky [Rogers] was doing in the first innings, he waited for that ball and he knows his game so well that anything in that zone he's blocking and any width he's playing. That's how simple they've kept it."

In the second innings, Warner and Rogers provided Australia with their first century opening stand in an Ashes Test since Matthew Hayden and Justin Langer put on 185 at The Oval in 2005 and it was an encouraging sign for the latest of several opening combinations Australia have used in the past couple of years. Warner said opening with Rogers was similar to working with Ed Cowan.

"I said it to Bucky at the drinks break, I said I enjoy batting with you because you don't say anything. When you're out there he's got such a structured game plan and he knows his game so well, he's scored 20,000 first class runs, he's just peeled off a hundred in the first innings. He's just so basic how he goes about his game. And when we're out there and we're chasing, he just kept on saying to me, keep it simple, keep it simple and back your game plan.

"He's very similar to Ed. They're both smart people, they both go about their business how they do and I find opening with both of them has probably helped my game as well because I do like to get involved in a bit of a conversation when we're out there about things that are not anything to do with cricket, just to get your mind off it. But those guys are so disciplined with what they do and it keeps my mind at ease as well."

Warner enjoyed being back at the top of the order in Chester-le-Street instead of playing at No.6, where he felt more vulnerable to Graeme Swann early in his innings. He said it was much easier handling Swann after settling down against the new ball.

"When you're opening the batting it does take you probably 10 balls to get your feet moving properly," he said. "They're not going to move straight away. And then when you're coming in at No.6 and you're facing Swann as a left-hander it is hard to get your feet moving and you're probably more inclined to sit on the crease.

"And that's generally what he wants you to do because he's trying to get you out lbw, from a left-hander's point of view. I find it actually easier to play him if I'm opening because I can settle in, I've got my rhythm and I can use my feet. Coming in at No.6 was a bit different to face him, I was caught on the crease and it turned out he got me out like that."

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • on August 14, 2013, 11:43 GMT

    Glad it hurts Dave, put it up there in your memory bank and dont forget it! I have always been confident that Warner would evolve into a good Test player. He has evolved from a 20/20 into a longer form player so far, so there is no reason he cannot evolve further. @Dazako - I agree with you on Rogers at three. He looks as solid as a rock and that is what is required in that position. Ed Cowan hasnt done anything recently to deserve a call up except that his partnerships with Warner have been fruitful over the years and a chemistry between opening partners is invaluable. I also dont see another defensive opener to complement Warner at the moment.

  • landl47 on August 14, 2013, 11:43 GMT

    Warner played very well in the second innings, but as I was watching I was muttering to myself "Pitch it up, pitch it up". He's a short player who plays very well off the back foot, but if you get him coming forward you've always got a chance against him.

    Any powerful hitter (and he's certainly that) will always have days when he comes off. The challenge for him is to be consistent. Still, taking a lesson from someone like Rogers is a good thing. I hope he puts it into practice, he's a great player to watch.

  • Vindaliew on August 14, 2013, 11:19 GMT

    I think Warner will be a much better batsman for experience after this match, and understand the painful reality of what price to put on his wicket. It's up to the rest of the team to determine whether this team builds on the pain of failure and begin a new era of maturity, or lose all confidence like the England Ashes teams of the 90s. Now Warner probably knows how all of England felt in the 90s, but something tells me that he will come good now. Having said that I felt the same way about Mark Butcher after his magic innings... Cowan should also return, probably at Khawaja's expense. Khawaja has novelty value and a very pleasing style, but he seems to be the weakest link in the top order, especially at first drop, unless he drops to 6 at Watto's expense where he may have better opportunity to slowly gain experience.

  • on August 15, 2013, 20:45 GMT

    Good attitude by Warner but Aussies shouldn't really complain about rowdy crowds, after all has he forgotten the booing and no-ball heckling of Murali by Aussie fans. maybe he was too young then.

  • xtrafalgarx on August 15, 2013, 9:44 GMT

    @hycIass, are you having mental battles? Some days you hate the young players, the net your are saying they shouldbe persevered with, make up your mind. I for one think a couple of people from this touring party should probably get the axe.

  • HowdyRowdy on August 15, 2013, 9:22 GMT

    Love Warner's attitude: stung by his dismissal, and by the Australian defeat.

    As he tightens his game, he should become a formidable Test opener. Crucially, Warner is technically sound, with a nice tight defence.

    Warner also is a brilliant field and seems to add a positive energy to the team.

    As to the rest of the batting lineup...other than Clarke and Rogers: Hughes is a proven failure at Test level (poorer numbers than Marcus North, from more Tests, Khawaja really needs to starting getting good runs very soon, Watson has run out of chances and Smith probably deserves more opportunities, although he looks pretty crude at times.

  • disco_bob on August 15, 2013, 8:02 GMT

    It's about time that Watson was cut loose to pursue his IPL career, he's just taking up space. Hughes should be playing instead of him, he's young and his 83 was a fine knock under extreme pressure. He did not deserve to be dropped. We need to give Khawaja, Hughes, and Smith extended runs. It will be hugely disappointing if Watson is playing in the home Ashes later this year.

  • MAK123 on August 15, 2013, 7:23 GMT

    Australia: get in George Bailey and Adam Voges in both One-day and Test set up and see the results for yourself

  • Nightwing32 on August 15, 2013, 7:02 GMT

    No Dussey (poor FC seasons), No dropping young players. Stick with a group. Also Marsh is having a poor time with the bat and Bailey had a very average season in Shield. Cosgrove is an issue with work ethic from what I heard but I could be wrong. Burns is had an okay Shield season but Smith, Hughes and Khawaja had better seasons.

    Eddie and Warner were a solid opening stand. Hughesy, Khawaja and Smith have talent. The work ethic of Warner, Hughesy and Smith is incredible. Technique is important but not as important as people make it out to be. Graeme Smith, Chanders and others had weird techniques but they made it work. I think Smith and Hughes can do it. The young players (Minus Warner) are playing with an axe over their heads. How can you perform like that if you are going to be dropped all the time. We had something going with Cowan and Warner and with Hughesy at 3 but after Mickey left it was changed.

    Show some faith to the Aussie players, they are good.

  • shravkumar on August 15, 2013, 5:46 GMT

    Pls get rid of Watson-the most overrated cricketer of all time. Get in Ed Cowan. I'd rather play Guys with resolve and mettle. Give the young Smith and Khawaja a decent run. Hughes despite all his technical glitches deserves a decent run at the top of the order.

    Oval XI would be

    1. Rogers 2. Warner 3. Cowan/Hughes 4. Khawaja 5. Clarke 6. Smith 7. Haddin 8. Siddle 9. Lyon 10. Bird 11. Starc

    I'm still surprised why the Aussie Selectors keep ignoring Mark Cosgrove. He is a decent batsmen. Should be in the mix.

  • on August 14, 2013, 11:43 GMT

    Glad it hurts Dave, put it up there in your memory bank and dont forget it! I have always been confident that Warner would evolve into a good Test player. He has evolved from a 20/20 into a longer form player so far, so there is no reason he cannot evolve further. @Dazako - I agree with you on Rogers at three. He looks as solid as a rock and that is what is required in that position. Ed Cowan hasnt done anything recently to deserve a call up except that his partnerships with Warner have been fruitful over the years and a chemistry between opening partners is invaluable. I also dont see another defensive opener to complement Warner at the moment.

  • landl47 on August 14, 2013, 11:43 GMT

    Warner played very well in the second innings, but as I was watching I was muttering to myself "Pitch it up, pitch it up". He's a short player who plays very well off the back foot, but if you get him coming forward you've always got a chance against him.

    Any powerful hitter (and he's certainly that) will always have days when he comes off. The challenge for him is to be consistent. Still, taking a lesson from someone like Rogers is a good thing. I hope he puts it into practice, he's a great player to watch.

  • Vindaliew on August 14, 2013, 11:19 GMT

    I think Warner will be a much better batsman for experience after this match, and understand the painful reality of what price to put on his wicket. It's up to the rest of the team to determine whether this team builds on the pain of failure and begin a new era of maturity, or lose all confidence like the England Ashes teams of the 90s. Now Warner probably knows how all of England felt in the 90s, but something tells me that he will come good now. Having said that I felt the same way about Mark Butcher after his magic innings... Cowan should also return, probably at Khawaja's expense. Khawaja has novelty value and a very pleasing style, but he seems to be the weakest link in the top order, especially at first drop, unless he drops to 6 at Watto's expense where he may have better opportunity to slowly gain experience.

  • on August 15, 2013, 20:45 GMT

    Good attitude by Warner but Aussies shouldn't really complain about rowdy crowds, after all has he forgotten the booing and no-ball heckling of Murali by Aussie fans. maybe he was too young then.

  • xtrafalgarx on August 15, 2013, 9:44 GMT

    @hycIass, are you having mental battles? Some days you hate the young players, the net your are saying they shouldbe persevered with, make up your mind. I for one think a couple of people from this touring party should probably get the axe.

  • HowdyRowdy on August 15, 2013, 9:22 GMT

    Love Warner's attitude: stung by his dismissal, and by the Australian defeat.

    As he tightens his game, he should become a formidable Test opener. Crucially, Warner is technically sound, with a nice tight defence.

    Warner also is a brilliant field and seems to add a positive energy to the team.

    As to the rest of the batting lineup...other than Clarke and Rogers: Hughes is a proven failure at Test level (poorer numbers than Marcus North, from more Tests, Khawaja really needs to starting getting good runs very soon, Watson has run out of chances and Smith probably deserves more opportunities, although he looks pretty crude at times.

  • disco_bob on August 15, 2013, 8:02 GMT

    It's about time that Watson was cut loose to pursue his IPL career, he's just taking up space. Hughes should be playing instead of him, he's young and his 83 was a fine knock under extreme pressure. He did not deserve to be dropped. We need to give Khawaja, Hughes, and Smith extended runs. It will be hugely disappointing if Watson is playing in the home Ashes later this year.

  • MAK123 on August 15, 2013, 7:23 GMT

    Australia: get in George Bailey and Adam Voges in both One-day and Test set up and see the results for yourself

  • Nightwing32 on August 15, 2013, 7:02 GMT

    No Dussey (poor FC seasons), No dropping young players. Stick with a group. Also Marsh is having a poor time with the bat and Bailey had a very average season in Shield. Cosgrove is an issue with work ethic from what I heard but I could be wrong. Burns is had an okay Shield season but Smith, Hughes and Khawaja had better seasons.

    Eddie and Warner were a solid opening stand. Hughesy, Khawaja and Smith have talent. The work ethic of Warner, Hughesy and Smith is incredible. Technique is important but not as important as people make it out to be. Graeme Smith, Chanders and others had weird techniques but they made it work. I think Smith and Hughes can do it. The young players (Minus Warner) are playing with an axe over their heads. How can you perform like that if you are going to be dropped all the time. We had something going with Cowan and Warner and with Hughesy at 3 but after Mickey left it was changed.

    Show some faith to the Aussie players, they are good.

  • shravkumar on August 15, 2013, 5:46 GMT

    Pls get rid of Watson-the most overrated cricketer of all time. Get in Ed Cowan. I'd rather play Guys with resolve and mettle. Give the young Smith and Khawaja a decent run. Hughes despite all his technical glitches deserves a decent run at the top of the order.

    Oval XI would be

    1. Rogers 2. Warner 3. Cowan/Hughes 4. Khawaja 5. Clarke 6. Smith 7. Haddin 8. Siddle 9. Lyon 10. Bird 11. Starc

    I'm still surprised why the Aussie Selectors keep ignoring Mark Cosgrove. He is a decent batsmen. Should be in the mix.

  • on August 15, 2013, 5:24 GMT

    No Khawaja, No Hughes, No Smith, No Watson. Seriously get G.Bailey, S.E.Marsh and D Hussey into the squad and starting line up. Warner, Rogers, S.Marsh, M.Clarke, D.Hussey, G.Bailey, B.Haddin, M, Johnson, P.Siddle, R.Harris, N.Lyon.

  • Mervo on August 15, 2013, 5:20 GMT

    I agree Jeff Mills except add Adam Voges. He knows his game and has patience. He is not seduced by T20. Experienced performer. I also agree about Johnson. He is our fastest and strongest. Now also accurate. He should be in the UK now. Smith has had two years of chances and has neither the ability or intelligence at this level. His dream run has to end as should Hughes. Both he and Smith came through an era when coaches left poor technique alone. They should be ignored and some 18-19 year olds groomed for the future. Kawaja has the technique and needs more time.

  • Flemo_Gilly on August 15, 2013, 5:07 GMT

    @hyclass well said champ, i also like the look of Warner, Smith and Khawaja, and only if we show confidence to these guys will we get the ashes back, Smith looks like a fantastic middle order bat and Khawaja is one of our best options in the top order and i hope they fire in the oval test

  • spot_on on August 15, 2013, 4:35 GMT

    Warner needs to perfect his defence technique. He'll be a force then on.. Shut the doors for Watson. Useless since he started playing. I've never been a fan of this guy. Get someone with mettle... Maybe a young kid in his late teens. Mould him up.. Get rid off the age old cricketers from this OZ lineup. I still can't digest this loss. pure failure by the lower middle order.

  • CantFindMyScreenName on August 15, 2013, 2:33 GMT

    For those talking about Shaun Marsh - he is 30 years old, has only 7 FC centuries, and averages in the mid-30s in Shield Cricket.

    He looks the part, but his performances don't bear that out.

  • on August 15, 2013, 1:55 GMT

    Crowd unnerving Warner!! What happened to that famous Australian tough cookie character!

  • heathrf1974 on August 15, 2013, 1:24 GMT

    @ Vindaliew Shaun Marsh has had some discipline problems and has was out of form. However, he may get back to his best. If not he'll be seen as a wasted talent.

  • on August 15, 2013, 1:01 GMT

    Again! 1. Rogers 2. Warner... That tough opening stand of a 100 showed a lot. It reminds me of the tougher tons Warner scored back in Australia. The Aussie pitches will suit Warner and the confidence restored in him by Boof will be huge.

    3. This is a tough one and the answer is varied as to who is right... Khawaja/Cown A big no!! Hughes I think was treated harshly after the great first innings knock in the first. But he needs to produce.. I wouldn't mind Burns the young Qlder... plenty of good knocks at Shield level in a low scoring couple of years

    4. Clarke

    5. David Hussey... Very fit still and a couple of years gets the young group a chance to get more first class under the belt...

    6. Watson... if unfit then Henriques 7. Haddin (Hartley as the number 2)

    8. Johnson.... Had a solid summer and was dumped for a couple of pipe dreams that are unfit in Cummins/Pattinson who are not strong enough

    9. Harris..

    10. Siddle

    11 Lyon

  • on August 15, 2013, 0:52 GMT

    Certainties for the home series subject to fitness in position order

    1. Rogers 2. Warner That is sealed after that partnership that showed maturity... I give

  • wellrounded87 on August 14, 2013, 23:53 GMT

    If hughes can get runs against the Lions i say put him in at 3. Move Khawaja to 4 and remove Watson/Smith. (If Watson can bowl keep him if not keep Smith) It was harsh to drop hughes when he had the best average of the batsmen at the time of his dropping.

    I think our side for Brisbane should be:

    1. Warner 2. Rogers/Hughes 3. Rogers/Hughes 4. Khawaja 5. Clarke 6.Smith/Watson/Maddinson 7. Haddin/Paine 8. Pattinson 9. Harris 10. Siddle 11. Lyon/Okeefe. 12. Agar

  • jmcilhinney on August 14, 2013, 23:37 GMT

    I think that there's still a bit of doubt about Warner, not least because of his off-field behaviour, but his second innings here was impressive. If he can continue to play with that apparent maturity then he will be successful.

  • hycIass on August 14, 2013, 23:34 GMT

    Warner, Khawaja and Smith, these 3 will be long term batsman for us if we give them their opportunities, all 3 have got a good score in this series and just need to be shown some confidence wihch i think boof and Clarke will show.

  • phermon on August 14, 2013, 23:15 GMT

    What with gutting and "batters" all we need are the chips!

  • Paul_Rampley on August 14, 2013, 22:39 GMT

    Warner did well, its important that we stick to our younger batsman in Warner, Khawaja, Smith who will be our future batting stars, we need to show faith in them if we are to get back to number 1

  • pat_one_back on August 14, 2013, 21:56 GMT

    Please enough plucking of equally unprepared players out of FC, there is no magic selection panacea to Australia's underperformance. If Phil Hughes can wash off the over coaching he'll get back to being a fine opener, Warner for mine has a game equally suited to batting at 3. I prefer Khawaja over Smith on technique and would give him decent run at 5 with 6/7 reserved for the allrounder, Watson/Fawkner/Henriques/McDonald/Mitch Marsh, though we need 6 genuine batsmen we simply can't give bowlers long enough rest right now so a containing 5th bowler is essential. It's a good team not a great team but with perseverance will perform until our next crop earn a place (a means of selection that's skipped this generation due to the clump of retirements and forced redundancies)

  • Ms.Cricket on August 14, 2013, 21:21 GMT

    If you have non Test class players like David Warner, Steve Smith, Phil Hughes etc in your line up, you willl consistently get these results. What exactly is shocking or gutting?

  • shot274 on August 14, 2013, 21:17 GMT

    Lets not forget that Australia were not bowled out by Zimbabwe! Yes loosing 9 wickets in a session must be gutting but apart from Smith and Siddle all got out to wicket taking deliveries. Not enough is mentioned about the fact that they were batting against perhaps the best all round bowling attack in the world for the conditions provided. Fourth innings wicket with seam movement - i personally dont think any team in the world would have got 299! Not even SA. Australia were beaten by a display of bowling which was superb-and very very repeatable given the personnel and conditions involved. Warner and every Aussie may be gutted by the fact that they started so well but the result was no surprise. Apart from the batting three different bowlers have won a test each for England. That is class which will take some beating!

  • on August 14, 2013, 21:01 GMT

    Surely Alastair Cook will give Swann an over or two first up in the next Test having read this?!

  • on August 14, 2013, 19:29 GMT

    I've been long convinces that Davey is a test cricketer, good to see others catching on to the idea. For a bloke who came into the test team with just half a dozen FC bouts under his belt he has done pretty well! Not bad for a bloke basically coming in from club cricket. He has less FC cricket experience than Joe Root! Improving across all formats all the while too and its a myth that he is not consistent, he goes past fifty every 3.5 innings or so, compared to an experienced man like Clarke who does it every 3.2 innings that is pretty impressive for mine. Other criticism that he goes for less than ten too often, well he is a junior member of the team when viewed objectively and he goes in against the new ball, he needs more time yet to get accustomed to going in against not club bowlers but the likes of Steyn and Anderson instead, pretty big jump and he flays them on his day, he is on his way.

  • dabhand on August 14, 2013, 18:22 GMT

    @chrisalis11 - so your point is that rather than give England's pace bowlers a chance with the new ball in the same manner as everyone else, Cook should allow Aus to knock the shine off and stuffing out of it instead -- test cricket is not T20 -- wow I could see your understanding of maximising the potential of the new ball resulting in a novel, if not successful style of captaincy.

    FWIW - Warner's comments relate to facing Swann armed with a ball that's plenty of overs old and having to play him off the back foot before Warner (and many other batsman) having got their footwork going properly.

  • on August 14, 2013, 17:32 GMT

    Australia needs a rearguard. this is a important job which was done by micheal hussey, Gilchrist and Andrew simmonds before. They need a Class batsman with caliber and consistency.

  • Vindaliew on August 14, 2013, 15:24 GMT

    I thought Shaun Marsh looked really good too - is he still injured or something? I personally think he'd make a better number 3 than Khawaja or even Pup.

  • on August 14, 2013, 15:00 GMT

    Didn't like Warner but the more I watch him bat the more I like him. He is improving every game. I like him more on ODI and T20 though, the strokes he play. I think he must remain an opener for the Oz, Watson is not really an opener type of player. I watched Warner on IPL as well, he was great. Rogers is more of Kallis, Chanderpaul and Sangakkara type of player. Its interesting to watch him play.

  • on August 14, 2013, 14:58 GMT

    Aussies should have included Shaun marsh,brad hodge both of them are world class

  • whatawicket on August 14, 2013, 13:46 GMT

    although the Aussies put on a 100 opening partnership they looked before they had put on 30, very iffy. England bowled some corkers. but after that the openers looked in complete control. until broady came to the party.

  • elvis57 on August 14, 2013, 13:03 GMT

    Cowan, Hughes, Khazaja not up to it at this stage. How about following the lead of Rogers and giving Dave Hussey a go?

  • ravi_hari on August 14, 2013, 11:56 GMT

    Somehow I thought the chase was all about Warner and Clarke. I felt if one of them goes on to score a hunder, Aussies would win with a lot to spare. Warner got near to it but Clarke let every one down. I think Warner played with a lot of determination and was always in sight of the target. If Rogers had stayed for another 10 overs, Warner would have got into top gear and plundered runs to take the score close to 200. Then it would have been easier for the others to complete the game. Having said that Warner threw it away and if he had shown patience. At 109/1 the stage was perfect for Khawaja to get set and play himself in. However, he was just not capable of handling it and his quick dismissal put a lot of pressure on the others and they just caved in. People will talk about this defeat for years, but will the Aussies learn? I think the A team and the Women's team looks more determined to perform. Dump some of the present lot and risk taking complete rookies like Doolan, Maddinson,etc

  • chrisalis11 on August 14, 2013, 11:34 GMT

    Given Warner's comments about facing Swann first up, if Warner opens the batting at the Oval, what are the odds that Flower's "strong leader" opens with pace at both ends? (See http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/content/story/662145.html)

  • 512fm on August 14, 2013, 11:34 GMT

    Why on earth would he come out and say the booing affected him? Now the Oval crowd will start it again..

  • willsrustynuts on August 14, 2013, 11:31 GMT

    Lots of potential. Glad to see his bat do the talking.

  • CricketMaan on August 14, 2013, 11:22 GMT

    Why not David Hussey in that middle order? why why why not?

  • Dazako on August 14, 2013, 10:53 GMT

    I think for the next game we should bring back Warners old opening partner Cowan and put Rogers in at first drop. I know that Rogers has played well opening and I still believe he is our second best bat (behind Clarke) and would be well suited to 3. Cowan can only bat in one position and although not setting the world on fire he has proven that he can be a stable opener alongside Warner. Hopefully Rogers can stay with the team for a year or 2 and pass on some knowledge and help guide some of our new players. Other than that bring in Voges or Bailey into the middle order for maturity and stable batting. Warner, Cowan, Rogers, Voges, Clarke, Smith, Haddin, Siddle, Starc, Harris, Lyon. Bailey to carry drinks and Khawaja, Hughes to A team to learn how to play on different pitches.

  • venkatesh018 on August 14, 2013, 10:33 GMT

    Nice someone mentioned Ed Cowan. Poor fellow. He has been unfairly ignored.

  • CricketMaan on August 14, 2013, 10:31 GMT

    Intresting quotes, since when did Warner start talking a lot of sense. Good on ya! But it doesnt end here, many more such games, many more such rowdy crowds and a long career in front of you. Good luck. You are good for the game, we need spice, drama but also attacking quality to score and win whcih you have.

  • Greatest_Game on August 14, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    An uncharacteristically mature innings from Warner. I have often criticized his batting, and felt that although enormously talented he was a liability to the Australian team. If Rodgers and Lehman are able to mentor and guide him, and instill in him the mindset that makes a test batsman, he could he a huge asset for Aus. By encouraging him to play his "natural game" he has been encouraged to fail repeatedly over the long term. Hopefully he will be taught to mould his natural game to the demands of test cricket, and his talent will not wasted.

  • on August 14, 2013, 10:06 GMT

    Warner is one of the few bright spots jn this team. Kid learns to leave a few he will become one hell of a player.

  • on August 14, 2013, 10:06 GMT

    Warner is one of the few bright spots jn this team. Kid learns to leave a few he will become one hell of a player.

  • Greatest_Game on August 14, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    An uncharacteristically mature innings from Warner. I have often criticized his batting, and felt that although enormously talented he was a liability to the Australian team. If Rodgers and Lehman are able to mentor and guide him, and instill in him the mindset that makes a test batsman, he could he a huge asset for Aus. By encouraging him to play his "natural game" he has been encouraged to fail repeatedly over the long term. Hopefully he will be taught to mould his natural game to the demands of test cricket, and his talent will not wasted.

  • CricketMaan on August 14, 2013, 10:31 GMT

    Intresting quotes, since when did Warner start talking a lot of sense. Good on ya! But it doesnt end here, many more such games, many more such rowdy crowds and a long career in front of you. Good luck. You are good for the game, we need spice, drama but also attacking quality to score and win whcih you have.

  • venkatesh018 on August 14, 2013, 10:33 GMT

    Nice someone mentioned Ed Cowan. Poor fellow. He has been unfairly ignored.

  • Dazako on August 14, 2013, 10:53 GMT

    I think for the next game we should bring back Warners old opening partner Cowan and put Rogers in at first drop. I know that Rogers has played well opening and I still believe he is our second best bat (behind Clarke) and would be well suited to 3. Cowan can only bat in one position and although not setting the world on fire he has proven that he can be a stable opener alongside Warner. Hopefully Rogers can stay with the team for a year or 2 and pass on some knowledge and help guide some of our new players. Other than that bring in Voges or Bailey into the middle order for maturity and stable batting. Warner, Cowan, Rogers, Voges, Clarke, Smith, Haddin, Siddle, Starc, Harris, Lyon. Bailey to carry drinks and Khawaja, Hughes to A team to learn how to play on different pitches.

  • CricketMaan on August 14, 2013, 11:22 GMT

    Why not David Hussey in that middle order? why why why not?

  • willsrustynuts on August 14, 2013, 11:31 GMT

    Lots of potential. Glad to see his bat do the talking.

  • 512fm on August 14, 2013, 11:34 GMT

    Why on earth would he come out and say the booing affected him? Now the Oval crowd will start it again..

  • chrisalis11 on August 14, 2013, 11:34 GMT

    Given Warner's comments about facing Swann first up, if Warner opens the batting at the Oval, what are the odds that Flower's "strong leader" opens with pace at both ends? (See http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/content/story/662145.html)

  • ravi_hari on August 14, 2013, 11:56 GMT

    Somehow I thought the chase was all about Warner and Clarke. I felt if one of them goes on to score a hunder, Aussies would win with a lot to spare. Warner got near to it but Clarke let every one down. I think Warner played with a lot of determination and was always in sight of the target. If Rogers had stayed for another 10 overs, Warner would have got into top gear and plundered runs to take the score close to 200. Then it would have been easier for the others to complete the game. Having said that Warner threw it away and if he had shown patience. At 109/1 the stage was perfect for Khawaja to get set and play himself in. However, he was just not capable of handling it and his quick dismissal put a lot of pressure on the others and they just caved in. People will talk about this defeat for years, but will the Aussies learn? I think the A team and the Women's team looks more determined to perform. Dump some of the present lot and risk taking complete rookies like Doolan, Maddinson,etc