India in West Indies 2011 July 4, 2011

'Some of the toughest pitches I've faced' - Dravid

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Rahul Dravid has described India's Test series against West Indies as a tough learning experience for the younger batsmen and he hopes it will hold them in good stead for the future. India have not posted 300-plus in any of the four innings so far, but they lead the three-Test series 1-0 heading in to the final match.

"It's been tough for the batsmen," Dravid said. "It's not been easy for young batsmen to come in and face the new ball on these tracks. I have played four tours here and this has been some of the toughest tracks I have faced. Guys will learn a lot from this experience. It will hold them in good stead. As I was telling some of them they probably might not play on these kinds of tracks."

The likes of Virat Kohli and M Vijay haven't really come to the terms with the pitches and neither man has made 50 runs for the whole series. Vijay battled hard for nearly two hours in the first innings in Barbados and Kohli fought hard in the second innings but neither converted their starts. Abhinav Mukund made 48 in the second innings but couldn't carry on. Dravid felt that in the circumstances, India's batting had held up well.

"It's been a tough, hard series from the batsmen's perspective," he said. "The tracks have been slightly tilted towards bowlers, which is good. The West Indies' bowling has been good. From that perspective we have been challenged in this series and that has been good. People might say the batting hasn't fired but in the context of the series we have not done too badly. The tracks have had pace and bounce compared to the tracks they played in ODIs and tracks we played last time. If not for rain in Barbados we would have had two results."

Dravid counted Ishant Sharma as one of the big positives to emerge from this series. "Ishant has been sensational. Praveen Kumar, Harbhajan Singh, Abhimanyu Mithun and Amit Mishra all have done their job. The slip catching has been good. Touch wood, I hope I don't jinx it but slip catching has been top class. These are all the positives."

Ishant suffered a light cut under his eye while playing football in the training session today but Dravid said the injury wasn't serious. "Ishant has just a small bruise. A little bit of cut. He should be fine."

Dravid said India would go in to the final Test in Dominica with a winning mindset, rather than opting for safety first and trying to keep their 1-0 lead. "The Test match is an important one," Dravid said. "We are not worrying about the series. We've got the team to win this Test match. We would have liked to win the series in Barbados but to lose 130 overs due to rain was disappointing. We were in control of that Test match, especially from the second innings onwards. This is a good chance to win a series here again. We have to put up five days of big performance here."

Dravid said he hadn't seen the pitch yet but that he believed it would have some pace and bounce. "There will be some good atmosphere - this is the first Test match here and I believe when a one-day match was played here there was good crowd," he said. "Hopefully they will come in for the Test."

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  • HSAF on July 6, 2011, 15:29 GMT

    @Ravi Darira & uglyhunK :

    uglyhunK - Stats don't lie - right - check the stats of both......and give me ur stats to prove that Sachin is Legend and Dravid is not...

    Ravi Darira - Truth always bitters dude, it bittered u and in return now u have accepted that he is good in Tests (which you have not agreed before in ur comments abt his play). Still some more stats will prove u that he is comparable to Sachi in ODI too. Like compare the AVG and Stats of the both in ODIs and check their failures and success and their term of services (no of years). I haven't told Tedulkar is a failure but he is not different than Dravid when it comes to Cricket.

  • on July 6, 2011, 15:08 GMT

    Oh... common man... Sachin teared apart the pak bowling.. true... But you should remember... that was an in consequential match... india had already qualified for super six,,And in this world cup semi..He got 5 lives... Forgot that...!!!!! Includind one UDRS assisted one... Pls..Be real..Not a fan.. :-)

  • on July 6, 2011, 12:33 GMT

    @HSAF - regarding the stats of dravid averaging more than sachin in the world cups, that is really most ridiculous comparison, i mean it is one thing if u compare them in tests, but ODIS??????? apparently you didnt see any of the games or you would have remembered - sachin tearing pakistan apart in 2003, scoring a 90 in the semi finals against pakistan in 2011, (all crucial innings under pressure) and i make you count a lot more.

  • uglyhunK on July 6, 2011, 12:24 GMT

    @Ravi Darira - Man, I admire your guts to take on all Dravid's irrational fans. While you state facts about his career they come up with abstract nonsense like "he plays for team", "he protects others" and such. I understand stats won't tell the whole story but they never lie. Kudos dude.

  • on July 6, 2011, 11:57 GMT

    @DrArun Pras : True Comment ever about Sachin. 2011 World Cup - sachin performance is THE WORST. Last 2 years - His run scoring is WORST.

  • KPushpak on July 6, 2011, 11:30 GMT

    Hi HSAF, Thanks. I m biggest fan of Rahul. He is very great man but very unlucky also...I want to see another double hundred from him...I

  • HSAF on July 6, 2011, 11:01 GMT

    @Ravi Darira: If you consider just 3 or 5 series as failures (even its not consecutive series and he is not most worse at that period), then please look at stats list of your Sachin who had much worse failures for years before he comes up again after everyone asks about his form and retirements. I don't hear much of that controversies about Dravid's form,etc..Dravid always stands tall.....While Sachin is short (on either state of his down / up forms).

  • on July 6, 2011, 10:58 GMT

    Who ever saying sachin as GOD... pls count out the times he scored a century...or atleast won the match for india in a difficult condition.... He never performed in crucial matches...especially in finals...The only occasions when he won finals/crucial matches wer In 1998 sharja and 2008 Australia triangular series finals... Am agreeing that he is great... soo great that once in a life time player.... but a non performer in crunch situations....For that matter the real number one is our own VVS Laxman..hen comes Rahul Dravid...Sachin's name is far low in this list...

  • on July 6, 2011, 9:23 GMT

    Dravid_Gravitas - thkz buddy :) nice to meet u

  • on July 6, 2011, 8:56 GMT

    I like the passion of dravid fans here, he is great, he scored a century against the #7 team's second grade side, he even scored centuries against new zealand in india when harbi score two centuries, and of course no one remembers most recent south africa, sri lanka or australia series when he flopped...but they directly skip to 5 years back ....

  • HSAF on July 6, 2011, 15:29 GMT

    @Ravi Darira & uglyhunK :

    uglyhunK - Stats don't lie - right - check the stats of both......and give me ur stats to prove that Sachin is Legend and Dravid is not...

    Ravi Darira - Truth always bitters dude, it bittered u and in return now u have accepted that he is good in Tests (which you have not agreed before in ur comments abt his play). Still some more stats will prove u that he is comparable to Sachi in ODI too. Like compare the AVG and Stats of the both in ODIs and check their failures and success and their term of services (no of years). I haven't told Tedulkar is a failure but he is not different than Dravid when it comes to Cricket.

  • on July 6, 2011, 15:08 GMT

    Oh... common man... Sachin teared apart the pak bowling.. true... But you should remember... that was an in consequential match... india had already qualified for super six,,And in this world cup semi..He got 5 lives... Forgot that...!!!!! Includind one UDRS assisted one... Pls..Be real..Not a fan.. :-)

  • on July 6, 2011, 12:33 GMT

    @HSAF - regarding the stats of dravid averaging more than sachin in the world cups, that is really most ridiculous comparison, i mean it is one thing if u compare them in tests, but ODIS??????? apparently you didnt see any of the games or you would have remembered - sachin tearing pakistan apart in 2003, scoring a 90 in the semi finals against pakistan in 2011, (all crucial innings under pressure) and i make you count a lot more.

  • uglyhunK on July 6, 2011, 12:24 GMT

    @Ravi Darira - Man, I admire your guts to take on all Dravid's irrational fans. While you state facts about his career they come up with abstract nonsense like "he plays for team", "he protects others" and such. I understand stats won't tell the whole story but they never lie. Kudos dude.

  • on July 6, 2011, 11:57 GMT

    @DrArun Pras : True Comment ever about Sachin. 2011 World Cup - sachin performance is THE WORST. Last 2 years - His run scoring is WORST.

  • KPushpak on July 6, 2011, 11:30 GMT

    Hi HSAF, Thanks. I m biggest fan of Rahul. He is very great man but very unlucky also...I want to see another double hundred from him...I

  • HSAF on July 6, 2011, 11:01 GMT

    @Ravi Darira: If you consider just 3 or 5 series as failures (even its not consecutive series and he is not most worse at that period), then please look at stats list of your Sachin who had much worse failures for years before he comes up again after everyone asks about his form and retirements. I don't hear much of that controversies about Dravid's form,etc..Dravid always stands tall.....While Sachin is short (on either state of his down / up forms).

  • on July 6, 2011, 10:58 GMT

    Who ever saying sachin as GOD... pls count out the times he scored a century...or atleast won the match for india in a difficult condition.... He never performed in crucial matches...especially in finals...The only occasions when he won finals/crucial matches wer In 1998 sharja and 2008 Australia triangular series finals... Am agreeing that he is great... soo great that once in a life time player.... but a non performer in crunch situations....For that matter the real number one is our own VVS Laxman..hen comes Rahul Dravid...Sachin's name is far low in this list...

  • on July 6, 2011, 9:23 GMT

    Dravid_Gravitas - thkz buddy :) nice to meet u

  • on July 6, 2011, 8:56 GMT

    I like the passion of dravid fans here, he is great, he scored a century against the #7 team's second grade side, he even scored centuries against new zealand in india when harbi score two centuries, and of course no one remembers most recent south africa, sri lanka or australia series when he flopped...but they directly skip to 5 years back ....

  • Pathiyal on July 6, 2011, 8:49 GMT

    expecting to see another majestic innings from rahul (if that happens again, that will be great) and his team mates. his first hundred was not 100% fluent, it was just the experience and character of the legend on display in the so called adverse conditions for which he is being recognised. hope his regular elegance will follow soon in the third test. this is the person needed to lead the BCCI later on in his life.

  • HSAF on July 6, 2011, 8:11 GMT

    Hi KPushpak ,

    World Cup Finals played-

    Sachin - 4 (5) & 18 (14) in 2003 & 2011. Dravid - 47 (57) in 2003.

    Also a extra hints, In WC matches played - Sachin's avg is 56.95 and Dravid's Avg is 61.42. He is the only one to avg more than 60 who has played 20 or more matches and 6th position who played 10 or more matches.

    Only One above 60 - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_average;qualmin2=20;qualval2=matches;spanmax1=2+Apr+2011;spanmin1=22+Feb+1992;spanval1=span;template=results;trophy=12;type=batting

    6th position - (http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=10;qualval1=matches;spanmax1=2+Apr+2011;spanmin1=22+Feb+1992;spanval1=span;template=results;trophy=12;type=batting).

    Of course, Sachin avg is the second best in WC who played 20 or more matches.

  • on July 6, 2011, 8:07 GMT

    Rahul Dravid the unsung hero of world cricket :-(... if Dravid sits out then we will come to know what is the real strength of Team India... the current Indian team will be bundled within 50 overs... still they can win the match coz the opponent is even weaker... Virat who replaced Dravid in ODIs is in the same squad playing and struggling where as an 38 year old is showing that he is Samrat of the game when it comes to testing conditions... Players can play when conditions favors them but only Champion can play when conditions are not in favor RD is a Champion batsman simple as that...

  • HSAF on July 6, 2011, 7:06 GMT

    Hi Rahul Fans,

    Is anybody noted that until now in this series, Dravid is the only one who have scored a Century?

  • HSAF on July 6, 2011, 6:35 GMT

    @Ravi Darira;

    Kicked Out and ODI team performing well - don't forget who brought that winning moment into the team before Dhoni took Captainship. Except failure of WC2007, Dravid was performed a numerous records on his captaincy (like winning series in WI after around 15/20 years & SA test after 10/15 years,etc) with far less talented team than now. And if Sachin is the lone saviour of this World CUP - then why failed for so many years? And this WC is in India (and also luckily Yuvi did the part of Dravid) otherwise it would have been a dream again? They don't need Dravid on Indian pitches (ODI), they need him only on tough pitches (the world knows it). I like both Sachin and Dravid, but don't try to insult or push down one (as u didn't like) who are always going to be legends. AND about your 30 overs comment on WI last test - they are playing test and not the T20 to play or to get out.Have u watched the scoreboard after Dravid and Laxman got out?

  • KPushpak on July 6, 2011, 6:17 GMT

    Hey AnilKP, pls tell me How many runs sachin has scored in two WC finals that he has played?

  • aus_sore_losers on July 6, 2011, 6:15 GMT

    guys, stop comparing Sachin and Dravid, they both are legends in their own terms. we love both very much. why this unnecessary comparison and criticism of one or the other. both are highly valuable part of current indian squad, dont denounce any of them. Both Rock!!

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on July 6, 2011, 6:10 GMT

    @Rajhesh Ragu, agree with you completely. Well said. A very good advise.

  • on July 6, 2011, 5:34 GMT

    @ToAllRahulFans - Myself an ardent fan of WALL - Lets not waste time in replying to "Darira" bros !! We know wat dravid is capable of .Y shud we bother abt the ppl who make senseless comments abt RD .. lets stay cool like RD ..

    WALL - U ALWAYS STAND TALL

  • balajik1968 on July 6, 2011, 1:07 GMT

    Dravid is taking a long term view. What he says is that the experience of playing on such pitches could teach the younger players a few valuable lessons. He is not offering excuses. Talking about the West Indies of the 70's and 80's I am pretty sure he would have done well because Dravid is someone who prepares meticulously, and that is the formula for success whichever way you look at it. Stop trashing these guys. Great players will be great irrespective of the time they play in.

  • mohsin9975 on July 6, 2011, 0:45 GMT

    Just watched the film fire in babylon.The passion for cricket in those guys during the 80s was so immense.The fast bowlers were literally terrific.Terrifying all batsmen to wet their pants.WI still possess 4 good fast bowlers_in descending order of quality rampaul,taylor,roach,edwards,russel.That 80s strategy of 4 fast bowlers can still work today as u hardly see any fast bowlers around the world.For that sammy needs to b out.Bishoo can come in if either rampaul or russel or bishoo himself hone their batting talent.Gayle has to b in.Wicb has to b revamped.Sarwan ,chanders need to b dealt with patience.WI cricket will b up and running in 6 months

  • anilkp on July 5, 2011, 21:45 GMT

    Hello Dariras and other like-minded readers: Why must we denounce Dravid and lift Sachin (he is already over Mt Everest, must we try to lift him further)? OK, RD took excuses for tough pitches. What sort of pitches have you ever played on? Ever? In your life so far? RD fought with the pitch, the heat, the bouncers; while the supposedly biggest man was cooling off IPL tireness with Roger Federer. And he won us the Worldcup, right? How many runs has he scored in two WC finals that he has played? How does that compare to his over-all standard? Kudos to you; it must be taking something to prove yourself pretty awful.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on July 5, 2011, 21:19 GMT

    Do some blokes even understand proper English? Dravid has performed well in this series so far. What kind of dufus one has to be to say that Dravid is giving excuses! He is just talking on behalf of the youngsters in the team and supporting them and asking people to not to get harsh on them. He never ever complained about pitches nor gave any excuses about himself when he wasn't doing well in 07/08. People can dissect any player but when your dissection is motivated by blind hatred, you'll look like an educated illiterate.

  • SudhirBang on July 5, 2011, 20:31 GMT

    Rahul Dravid is never given the rightful credit he deserves!His records & quantum of work is indeed worthy of emulation by our next gen IPL breed.He has been a excellent brand ambassdor for India in general & Indian cricket in particular. It would be insulting his yomen service to our country if questions are raised on his impersonal comments on ground realities.Like is ilk,his encouragment to the young guns was well worded to instill some faith in the young guns's mind as they seem to be faltering on this assignment.I'm personally not a big fan of his brand of batsmenship but would never take anything away from the illustrious records that speak volumes of the man!Indian cricket argurs well to benefit from his vast experience & moundling of the next gen rather than throw mundane questions about his integrity or skills that have served the nation without a iota of self.Let us enjoy when & as long as it lasts before curtain come down soon on this LEGEND of Indian cricket..

  • on July 5, 2011, 20:27 GMT

    @Rakhil Pakhetra - I had countless similar arguments when Dravid was in the ODI team, and look what happened when he was kicked out, India won the world cup and looks unbeatable... what happened to all the talks of wanting dravid as a sheet anchor in the ODI?????. And its funny how a lot of dravid fans denounce sachin....that itself shows the level of their knowledge and IQs....

  • on July 5, 2011, 18:16 GMT

    Darira brothers should be made selectors of Indian cricket team n let them chose anyone that they want coz according mere presence of Sachin in the team even if he is not playing(say in the 15 bt not in 11) will win us games..cricket is a team game...if anyone lyk Dravid or Laxman had partnered Sachin earlier who knows he might have won India many test series b4 1996 n dont know how much he would have scored may be have surpassed his ODI total runs...I suggest them(Darira brothers) to replace current Indian line up with our pre-1996 team i.e. pre Dravid,Ganguly,Laxman and let them see how many games India wins with only Sachin's presence...

  • on July 5, 2011, 18:08 GMT

    Totally agree with - @shenoyragh on (July 05 2011, 14:14 PM GMT)

  • US_Indian on July 5, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    @ravi darira, can you please shut up or atleast provide me with one evidence where Sachin has batted well on difficult pitches or made us win under tough circumstances, that department solely belongs to Dravid and Laxman. #3 is a crucial spot in a team and has always been manned by real good batsmen ok, the case in point is Dravid, Ponting, Richards, Mohd Yousuf, Zaheer Abbas, David Gower, Aravinda D'silva, Kallis etc etc, can you provide me one chance where Sachin has batted in that position. People talk about he opting to get the opening slot in ODI's and if you know the real intention it was not taking the responsibility but he saw opportunity to score more runs and centuries than his usual position #4/5 ok again selfishness to the core.

  • on July 5, 2011, 17:48 GMT

    @Rishi Darira Since how many years are you following Cricket? 5 years? You'll have to be plain mindless to say that a person like Dravid gives excuses of 'Tough Pitches'. Have you ever seen any of his many fighting innings - those priceless pearls that he collected while others in the team went on wandering trips to Neverland? Go check his records and then grunt. And think before you stake such stupid claims.

  • CandidIndian on July 5, 2011, 17:36 GMT

    WI tour is a wake up call for team India as there are not much positives .It was expected that Dravid and Laxman will play well,apart from them only Raina and Mukund have shown fighting spirit and good concentration.Kohli who was giving statements about being ready to take the responsibility of the team has been brought back to reality from fairy tale.Srikkanth's favorite player Murali Vijay, the IPL baby has been totally exposed yet again and every time he is out , he is determined to prove a point that he is not fit to play cricket at top level.Bhajji who has been batting well is no were close to fill the boots of Kumble as a senior spinner in the side.Its great that so called weak link of India that is pace attack has come to the rescue.Poor batting by others have forced VVS and Dravid to get extra cautious and slower than usual.

  • bhanuks on July 5, 2011, 17:30 GMT

    "It's not just about taking wickets. Harbhajan is so crucial to us. People see him as an attacking force and tend to play him defensively as well."

    Huh?!? If a bowler is not in the team to take wickets, why is he in the team? What is the point in playing?

  • donda on July 5, 2011, 16:46 GMT

    If the wickets are not that batting friendly then Indian should go into next test match to draw and win the series. WI will try to beat india with full force and it will be advisable to just stay on the wicket and draw this match to win the series.

  • on July 5, 2011, 16:21 GMT

    Rahul Dravid has stands tall when the chips go down, like Laxman. and all those talks of youngsters replacing him is bull shit. It has been somre time since Ganguly and Kumble have left. We have not exactly found their substitutes.forget about Dravid who is a better player then them. Our youngsters r talented but they need to learn something from Dravid before aking his position . none of them do well when conditions are bad for batsman

  • Vnott on July 5, 2011, 16:03 GMT

    It is extremely irritating to see comments about Dravid supposedly offering excuses about the pitches in Windies. Dravid has played beautifully in this series, was the man of the match in the first test and did well in the second too. So where is the need for him to offer an excuse. What Dravid is talking about is simple. Dont be harsh on Virat Kohil, Mukund and Vijay. Give them time. Pls learn to read English guys and understand the game a bit before rushing off to making trite comments!

  • on July 5, 2011, 16:03 GMT

    to some northies only northies or mumbaikars statements are all true and valuable. Forgetting that the same Mumbaikar did not turn up and half the northies failed they shud respect what Dravid says and also the comments come from buffoons who will faint when a bouncer at 70 mph comes at them. When will these people learn to respect and be decent humans??? THis attitude is what is destroying this world and its peace

  • East_West on July 5, 2011, 15:51 GMT

    rightly said RISHI! Dravid has been buying his time for a while with lousy scores, and although he has done a decent job in this series, he should retire! Yes we are going to win or he might save once in a blue moon [gone were the days he was a GREAT WALL] but he is just hanging around. We should go ahead and experiment with these young ones, and we might loose some in the beginnning but eventually we should move on! His shelf life is OVER!! Now I am sure we will get this excuse from readers that "see how Dravind, Laxman saved us from difficult periods...but come on! let us move on without these greats!! BTW..what's up with DHONI! He can't play quality innigs against quality pitches!

  • on July 5, 2011, 15:45 GMT

    i dun understand why do people have grudge against dravid..... cant you people see the grit in his batting.....and mind it its very easy to criticize sitting at ur couch .......atleast he is better than those players who consider IPL duties prior to national Duties and still enjoy status of GOD........

  • Vilander on July 5, 2011, 15:20 GMT

    Dravid likes to challenge himself because, when there is a stern challenge only the real good ones come out successful.

  • sanath007 on July 5, 2011, 15:12 GMT

    because in India you have got the most flattest wickets on earth. totally agree with dravid

  • on July 5, 2011, 15:01 GMT

    ing in this test series... the selectors must give a chance to BADRI in the place KOHLI. we can't drop VIJAY because exept both VIJAY & MUKUND there were no1 is there as a label with OPENER. so we should give a chance to BADRI, hope he wil do better an

  • KingOwl on July 5, 2011, 14:48 GMT

    Dravid is a great batsmen, on any kind of pitch. Fading these days of course due to age. But the reality is that Indians don't get to play on tough tracks because of the power of BCCI. If they did, the FTB's, which India are full of, will not have those hugely inflated averages.

  • on July 5, 2011, 14:40 GMT

    i hope he wil get more runs in the coming test cricket...........

  • kingcobra85 on July 5, 2011, 14:40 GMT

    when the so-called best openers are taking voluntary rest from the series and one will not even be playing half of the England series. Kudos to youngsters to fighting it out on tough conditions. Its easy to be a run machine in multan and boost your averages but testing your skill happens only when bowlers have a chance... I really hope sehwag plays a match saving innings atleast once in his life in a bowling friendly conditions...only one i remember is in SA but that was in first innings..

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 5, 2011, 14:36 GMT

    @Raj12345, you said that Dhoni's technique is making sure that India will keep winning. What else do u need then? Dhoni also gave chance to Raina as captain for ODIs with all possible young players in the team. So he is making sure that everyone is getting chance and trying to build future young team. I agree that he is not in form as a batsman every batsmean has/had a bad phase. Moreover Dhoni's bad form is not really an issue for Indian team right now.

  • on July 5, 2011, 14:34 GMT

    " We would have liked to win the series in Barbados but to lose 130 overs due to rain was disappointing"

    Losing those 130 overs was not in any one's hand, but what about losing the 30 overs because of your slow batting? and now the excuse that the pitch was tough, if he was really great then he would have made us win this test, i am sure laxman if batting at 3 would have made us win this one, or merely the presence of sachin.... Its funny how dravid fans even compare him to sachin, who made us win the world cup!! (every one else's motivation was to win it for him, that says a lot about his stature)

  • bigwonder on July 5, 2011, 14:26 GMT

    Test lovers are complaining that bowlers get the rough end in T20 while batsmen are just show off in T20. Similar situation is created in Tests if the pitch is not bouncy and unpredictable. So it is coming down to the pitch rather then format of the game. You can still have grassy and bouncy pitches in T20 given bowlers a better chance. Lets not forget the fact that its the cricket lovers/fans/viewers who keep the game alive and not pace bowlers. You can have whatever pitches you want but without viewers no format will be successful.

  • on July 5, 2011, 14:15 GMT

    West Indies bowlers did not bowl well to the lefties other than some short pitched stuff. They generally bowled well to right handers specially Rampaul was very good. So Raina & Mukund got escaped with out good test. M Vijay & V Kohli suffered lot and they were fighting for survival. I still give Mukund's place to M Vijay if no other opener is available. Mukund was vulnerable against incoming [outswing for righthanders]balls. He will be tested in Engaland agains Jimmi & Co.

  • shenoyragh on July 5, 2011, 14:14 GMT

    @Rishi Darira - Why on earth would Dravid use the excuse of "Tough Pitch"? He has been scoring runs where other batsman have failed to survive! He has done every bit to win matches for India. First look at the way Kohli, Vijay, Dhoni are batting.. And please please look at the way the so-called great spinner Harbhajan is bowling and after that lets discuss about the positive attitude!

  • on July 5, 2011, 13:49 GMT

    Guys!! Dravid saved us a lot of blushes over the years. Let him be! And these pitches are second to perhaps only the 1999 New Zealand pitches India encountered. So chill!. Better days for India are ahead!

  • Lindt_Excellence on July 5, 2011, 13:46 GMT

    Dravid has scored runs in the ongoing series so really has pretty much nothing to say or rather explain for himself. Here, he is batting for his young, inexperienced team-mates, and it seems he went just a little overboard doing that.

  • Preethi88 on July 5, 2011, 13:43 GMT

    Dhoni should perform atleast in last test match. Otherwise he would loose his spot in the future for Parthiv Patel giving gauti as a captain

  • on July 5, 2011, 13:40 GMT

    And Mr Rishi Darira - should we take your opinion ahead of Rahul Dravid's because you've played and succeeded against strong bowling attacks on wickets like this?

  • HSAF on July 5, 2011, 13:37 GMT

    reply for @Rishi Darira:

    Dravid Failure - tough pitch excuse. Is he failed here? - 40, 112, 5, & 55 - except one innings where is the failure and that too none of the innings scores have not crossed over 300 - he scored almost around 25% of the Indian scores. Is that a failure? Oh my GOD.

  • on July 5, 2011, 13:23 GMT

    Indian batting has not really struggled as it is made out to be by others on current WI tour. The pitches have been awful..uneven bounce. If Indian grounds had same pitches ..it would have created so much controversy by now.To take the positives..the Indian bowlers have come good...and England awaits them...Batting wont be so easy for England with Zak,Sree,Ishant and PK with Munaf as backup...Indian batters may also struggle but I feel they will manage to score between 300-400 in test matches.Contrary to the belief..it will not be English quickies but the offie Swann which will cause Indians problems is my gut feeling.The catch for English groundsman...make a gree pitch and Indian bowlers benifit too....and if flat tracks the batters have gala time.

  • intcamd on July 5, 2011, 13:23 GMT

    Dhoni is like Mike Brearly now, in the team due to his "captaincy" skills, god knows it aint due to his batting contribution. He is an OK wk however.

    Bhajji is there as an "allrounder", scores some runs occassionally. Yes, some wickets too, also "occassionally", although even less frequently.

    We have to see if Ishant can sustain this form into the England series, and also whether his "form" was due to the weak Windies batting or due to his genuine skill

  • A_BANG on July 5, 2011, 13:12 GMT

    There is no doubting the fact that dravid has been a huggggeee reason for india's successful run in the test series. Vijay has got enough chances and its time to sue him. Why noy open with dravid in the final test??! He has anyway come in very early in all the four innings. Remoe vijay and get in someone else.We have had enough of him.

  • Jelanichem on July 5, 2011, 13:12 GMT

    Well if Rahul Dravid consider these pitches tough, playing against bowlers who are quite frankly mediocre when compared to those from the 70s and 80s, then what would he have said if he played test cricket then. Just reinforces my thinking, that none of these guys playing against mediocre bowling on flat pitches, with all the protective gears do not deserve to be numbered with the greats of former years. But of course people people with no knowledge of when cricket was a tough sport for batsmen, will only look at the quantity of runs these guys scores. However, look at them batting on pitches similar to those of yester years and against genuine fast and skillful quickies and you have a fairly good idea how "great" they would have been. A lot of these guys can only be great in these girlie conditions that cricket is played in now. I am happy to see that a bit of the competitiveness between bat and ball is returning. Maybe I can start watching test cricket again.

  • ramli on July 5, 2011, 12:26 GMT

    Many readers keep harping that Dhoni does not deserve a place in test team. Can you name a better wicket-keeper batsman from India? Parthiv - no way, he finds it difficult to collect the ball outside leg stump leave alone batting. Dinesh karthik - keeping has plummeted to a new low and batting is inconsistent and is a spent force. Let us give a man his due. After all, winning is a good habit and dhoni possesses it more than anybody else.

  • Sankar_CricketManiac on July 5, 2011, 12:16 GMT

    I think Rishi is like the mumbai crowd tat booed sachin when he was having a lean patch. Its sad that players are respected only when they have purple patch. People forget that form is temporary, class is permanent. Dravid has been the form batsman this series and any cricketing fan will know that the pitch is not so easy to bat on. WI also has been bowling well. So they are tough conditions, may be like rishi said England will be tougher though. So youngsters should not get bogged down by failures. Is it with a negative attitude that dravid got the better of WI bowlers this series?? Cricketing legends themselves know Dravid is a batsman with temperament and class. I do not know how Rishi posted such comment. Sorry dude :(

  • on July 5, 2011, 12:12 GMT

    this is where fighting skills and patience skills come in. Steve Waugh was very sucessful in WI, he is the best fighter i ever saw apart from other aussies. Indian batsmen should learn to be more patient and fight harder for their runs and wins will flow.

  • on July 5, 2011, 12:05 GMT

    up coming test match is a real fight for indian batsmen Laxman played well continue to get century in this last match and win the series by 2-0

  • on July 5, 2011, 12:05 GMT

    Dravid has played when others have floped. He should play his last series in Australia because he is ageing and sad to say is not consistent as he was. So better to retire in proudness rather than geting dropped

  • on July 5, 2011, 10:58 GMT

    Dravid has used the "Tough Pitch" excuse for several years now. Difficult pitch pretty much explains all his failures for the last 5 years even against very weak opposition with novice bowlers. Please wait until he gets to England, that will be toughest pitch he ever played on. On a different note, he is the one who needs to play with a positive attitude, everyone else already do that.

  • LSmith on July 5, 2011, 10:57 GMT

    Dravid: Some of the toughest pitches you've faced' so as some of the wayward bowling you faced.....

  • Rahul_is_king on July 5, 2011, 10:53 GMT

    India will win 2-0, Dravid with another century and dhoni will fire this time!!

  • Silva-Surfa on July 5, 2011, 10:48 GMT

    If Dravid thinks it is tough now, he should've seen what it was like in Barbados and Jamaica during the 70s/80s, just ask Sunny Gavaskar. Personally i think that cricket in these modern times are too much in favour of the batsmen anyway. T20s are simply to showcase batsmen hitting the ball out the ground. It might be entertaining for the crowds, but what does the bowlers get out of it, with a restricted field and flat pitches? And these days the majority of pitches in World Cricket are generally flat anyway. South Africa and Australia offer some extra bounce, with England and New Zealand some seam/swing movement due to the weather conditions. Playing on challenging pitches will only improve the technique, patience and temperament of a batsman and as long as it's not a minefield, can only be a good learning curve for any professional cricketer to hone their skills. Not everybody wants to see a dead, soft kookaburra ball after 15 overs, getting smacked around the park.

  • Raj12345 on July 5, 2011, 10:31 GMT

    poor kohli & vijay. Dhoni also not scored any runs. but no one talks about that. is dhoni deserve test spot anymore. let see dhoni might answer with his bat in 3rd test. Dhoni tactics is very simple, keep india winning, also he always make sure that shuffle 2nd wicket keeper so that his WK place is safe.

  • vish57 on July 5, 2011, 10:15 GMT

    Dravid being an all time legend of Cricket, respecting his views selectors should not be harsh on youngsters like Murali Vijay or Virat Kohili or Abhinav Mukund; What BCCI should do is to send India A teams to W Indies/SAfrica/Austraila/England so that the youngsters get matured to play in different international wickets as tour games are hardly any and perform better when given an opportunity.

  • UniversalFriend on July 5, 2011, 9:50 GMT

    @Rahulbose...I think you are partially right about losing confidence break down. If the players are not determined and commidtted in what they do, if they can't manage these kind of expectations, if they don't learn from these kind of performances and if they can't take criciticsm then I think they shouldn't even play for the country. Highest form of game and game standards demand these things and they must do that. That said I am not saying that they should be left like that. If the players have that kind of character then there are lot of support staff who can help them; well they have to help players. You accept?

  • kingcobra85 on July 5, 2011, 9:47 GMT

    @Jackwin Sam Paul you have no idea about test match cricket..

  • UniversalFriend on July 5, 2011, 9:41 GMT

    Yaaah... I agree with Rahul except for one. Harbhajan hasn't been good. He is just be bowling, THAT'S IT. In every series people say Harbhajan hasn't been good (that's indeed a fact) and some or other, either coach or captain or selector, backs him saying that see the pitch and conditions and he did right thing to control runs. Controlling runs in test match, almost anyone can do. He is not doing that. This time see Simon's (bowling coach) comments, he tells the same. Why is everyone backing him when we can actually develop new spinners in this series. If he is not there in this series then there would't have been damage as India is already four or five people short. They should have tried new spinners to give them chance and experience. Golden opportunity lost for new comers and golden opportunity lost even for Bhajji, as again (umpteenth time) he couldn't take wickets. Give him rest like others so that he can again relearn how to do bowling than just throwing the balls...ewwwww.

  • bbn007 on July 5, 2011, 9:11 GMT

    i hope they faced a big time here... but the selectors pick them to perform best they got. up to this time, i think MUKUND performed well as compared to other youngsters... also ISHANT, the big surprisse for all.... he used his time very well.. i think he's in his supreme form. in progress for the upcoming series in ENGLAND, the selectors should give a chance for BADRI, he's also a good middle order batsman. he did't got any chance for playing in this test series... the selectors must give a chance to BADRI in the place KOHLI. we can't drop VIJAY because exept both VIJAY & MUKUND there were no1 is there as a label with OPENER. so we should give a chance to BADRI, hope he wil do better and the youngsters... thnx DHONI for making us PROUD as in INDIAN....

  • somu1984 on July 5, 2011, 9:03 GMT

    I am with Rahul here. It is difficult for the batsmen to score on such a bowler freindly track. Good to see that our bowlers especially fast bowler has fired in these series so far. Hopefully they'll contiue to fire in the coming match as well as coming series against England. Going by what Dravid had said during this interview, I remember that when India toured West Indies last time around and won the series they had told that next time when India tours West Indies then they'll prepare the tracks that will aid West Indies kind of fast bowlers - fast, furious, more bounce... That's why you see our happy hunting ground Port of Spain have been removed from itinery. we have proved yet again that whatever might be the playing condition young Indians will come very hard against opposition.

  • on July 5, 2011, 8:51 GMT

    It's a really hard battle between bat and ball in WI tour,but Indian batsman have need more resilience in their batting and make good choice of shot selection.Their much of worry in opening partnership slot,where specially M.Vijay has much worry.If India want to win third test in Dominica convencially, they both need much of good start and in middle order Kohli need to show much patience to hold their batting performance.In bowling Ishant need little more support from Praveen and Mithun to finish the WI's batting little earlier.So go India and win the match and clinch the series.Tough battle in England is step away.

  • SUNILDASWANEY on July 5, 2011, 8:34 GMT

    I AGREE WITH DRAVID'S VIEWS EXCEPT FOR THE ONE HARBHAJAN WHO'S A COMPLETE MISFT IN THE SIDE.I WONDER HOW MUCH MORE BADLY DOES HE NEED TO PERFORM WITH THE BALL BEFORE HE'S DROPPED !

  • mrgupta on July 5, 2011, 8:26 GMT

    This series should be an Eye opener for teams like Eng, Aus and SA who think that Indian batsmen can be taken down by making fast and bouncy pitches. In-spite of missing Sachin ,Sehwag and Gambhir, who have done well on these kind of pitches in the past, India is still in commanding position and if not for poor weather would have had the series in the bag 2-0 before final test. Sammy was very confident before the start that if he gets fast and bouncy pitch he will be able to intimidate Indian batsmen, look what happened, they themselves failed to get lead in either of first 2 tests. With Sachin, Sehwag, Gambhir and Zak joining the team back in Eng we are surely going to be the toughest assignment for the English team. They were able to go past SL but Indian batsmen are far better and fast pitches are not our concern anymore. Lets see how England batsmen handle Zak and Ishant on those fast pitches.

  • on July 5, 2011, 7:36 GMT

    I THINK 'THE WALL' IS RIGHT HERE AS WE SHOULD NOT FORGET THE EFFORTS OF MURLI VIJAY AND VIRAT KOHLI. THEY HAVE DONE THEIR BEST TO CONVERT THE TALLY OF THEIR SCORES BUT AS DRAVID SAID HE HAD FACED A TOUGH TIME ON THOSE PITCHES. SO I THINK MUKUND SHOULD BE GIVEN MORE CHANCES TO GROOVE. HE HAS TALENT WHICH IS NEEDED FOR TEAM INDIA .

  • CC31 on July 5, 2011, 7:19 GMT

    Whatever Mr.Dravid has said is absolutely right but the Indian Cricket Fans would have been much more happier to see India show much more resilient in comparison to what they have done as of now.

  • Notredam on July 5, 2011, 7:10 GMT

    2:0 indian win the verdict stands from my side..

  • Rahulbose on July 5, 2011, 6:42 GMT

    Well agree that the pitches have been tough. But it doesn't follow that the young batsmen will get better after these games. There is even chance that they will just loose confidence and break down.

  • on July 5, 2011, 6:08 GMT

    When you don't respect the game enough, it is going to get up and bite you. Kohli underestimated and discounted the opposition and the conditions, just like his role model Yuvraj Singh. But I think kohli is a little more humble and will learn fast.

  • BULTY on July 5, 2011, 6:06 GMT

    A thoroughly professional statement coming from one of the finest batsmen the world of cricket in Tests has seen. There was no aura about his own performance in the series so far but speaks for the younger lot, which is a great boost for them. By speaking about the dismal performance of Vijay & Kohli, he was hinting that they were unfortunately dropped for the England tour,a point made but so diplomatically. The only boastful part of the article is perhaps his saying that the slip catching was superb, but he was speaking the truth. This article bring out both his character as well as his thorough knowledge of the game. Looking forward to more such comments from Dravid at the end of the WI tour.

  • Rahul_78 on July 5, 2011, 6:02 GMT

    This is what is needed to sustain test cricket...a bit of spice in the pitch to test the appetite of the batsmen breaded on feather beds and small grounds with shorter boundaries. Even though the big names are missing from both the teams the contest has been reverting and each and every delivery bowled during the series has been entertaining...good job done by groundsmen! It is funny how modern bats and big heaves across the lines dont help batsmen to score runs in TEST CRICKET WITH CHALLENGING PITCHES!

  • stationmaster on July 5, 2011, 5:53 GMT

    India are so used to playing on one sided pitches that favour the batsmen - this series has been SO refreshing in the way the pitches help to produce a result. Massive congratulations to the grounds staff in the WI. Pitches like these are a great leveller of skill - i.e. a REAL contest, not a boring Indian run fest.

  • on July 5, 2011, 5:44 GMT

    @sachinkhairnar: oh plz...if sreesanth was there then we would've conceded a first innings lead...:-D

  • Pankaj_Thakur on July 5, 2011, 5:39 GMT

    I do agree with Rahul Dravid comment, West Indies pitches do not have any thing for batsman, it supporting only to blowers. But Mr. The Wall this is time to show your technique, class & and play some tremendous inning, which will help India to win 3rd test, as you have played before also. Please be aware to play loose shot & run out & please make a another hundreds, gob bless you, all the best, best of luck........

  • on July 5, 2011, 5:36 GMT

    WI tour is a Good Practice for IND batmanfor upcoming Tour Of England.

  • Alexk400 on July 5, 2011, 5:31 GMT

    Dravid is greatest team man and greatest cricketer better than sachin on my book any day.

  • on July 5, 2011, 5:20 GMT

    India's series with SA & this WI series is treat to watch....as the pitches prepared have something in them for bowlers.....It makes the contest even and batsmen has to show some character to score runs....and moreover Indian batsmen hav done well on these pitches....Now others teams have to find another way to get indian batsmen out rather than just bombarding them with short stuff....Indian batsmen are not flat track bullies anymore and now India also have the fast bowlers who can get 20 wickets in a match......India truly deserves No 1 team in test cricket..& England have to play out of their skin to beat India in the upcoming series.....If they beat India ( which they ll not) then they deserve the top spot in Test rankings.....

  • sweetspot on July 5, 2011, 5:19 GMT

    Amazing to see young Raina coming through. That kid is one fast learner! If Kohli is not really careful, Raina will overtake him and go much much further. Just kidding. Poor Kohli is going through test by fire, even though the poor chap has the skill. His whole generation of Indian batsmen have never seen so much unpredictable bounce before. In this context, amazing that Raina somehow coped so well. If he wasn't given out through bad decisions, he would have got a couple of big ones too.

  • on July 5, 2011, 5:17 GMT

    When a great batsman like Rahul Dravid himself feels that these are some of the toughest pitches then there s no need to wonder why the youngsters like kohli and vijay are not performing well.....Expecting a century from THE WALL in the next test

  • whisperingdeath1 on July 5, 2011, 4:52 GMT

    playing on flat wickets seems to have created a impression that sporting tracks are bad tracks and not fair for batting , love to see more such tracks as barbados and jamaica

  • aus_sore_losers on July 5, 2011, 4:46 GMT

    Dravid=RESPECT!!! Love you man of stone will...

  • KAIRAVA on July 5, 2011, 4:38 GMT

    Outside India, Murali Vijay has played in 5 tests and his highest score is 30 against Bangladesh. He has failed to get past 19 in the 3 tests outside sub-continent. Whereas Parthiv Patel, has scored 3 fifties outside India with the famous one being a 62 in 50 balls in Sydney against the bowling of Lee, Gillespie, Bracken & MacGill. The last time he had opened for India in a test match, he scored a brilliant 69 facing the likes of "the Rawalpindi Express", Shoaib Akhtar, Mohd. Sami & Danish Kaneria in Rawalpindi 2004. Since then Parthiv's batting has matured & improved tremendously but he has been been regularly ignored by the selectors. Time to send Vijay back to Chennai & open with Parthiv for the next test in Dominica. Similarly, Badrinath has been given a raw deal in his international test career and has been dropped after just one bad test, even though having scored a patient 56 against Steyn & Morkel in the innings thrashing at Nagpur 2010. He should replace Kohli for next test.

  • Prasdhoni on July 5, 2011, 4:33 GMT

    Badri should be given a chance in the last test match to prove his worth.....Since the track will have pace and bounce,it is wise to retain with PK, Ishant , Mithun and Bhajji.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on July 5, 2011, 4:28 GMT

    With rain predicted for the third test, India's chances to win 2-0 are slim. We should have won the second test. But the dropped catch by Dhoni when Baugh was on zero made sure that we can't win the match. The fact that there was so much rain and lost overs didn't give much leeway for such costly mistakes.

  • on July 5, 2011, 4:28 GMT

    "The tracks have been slightly tilted towards bowlers, which is good" It is not slightly, lol, totally.

  • on July 5, 2011, 4:20 GMT

    @HazyClarity I agree, really good to hear a batsman compliment a pitch that favours bowling, shows that he is interested in challenging himself rather than just padding his stats.

  • nzcricket174 on July 5, 2011, 4:02 GMT

    Pitches favouring bowlers is good for West Indies cricket. Back in Sunil Gavaskar's time you actually had to have a good technique rather than just knowing how to swing a bat. Anyone who knows a thing or two about WI and Gavaskar will know what I'm talking about.

  • N.Sundararajan on July 5, 2011, 3:57 GMT

    Dravid has once again shown his maturity and his position as the elder statesman on this tour. He has always been selfless and very macro in his approach---he is a thinking cricketer---and it shows !

    Wish the youngsters learn intensely from him----after all , Dravid, Scahin and Laxman will not be around for too long in future !

  • xylo on July 5, 2011, 3:38 GMT

    The fact that some of these young batsmen have showed resolve to fight it out bodes well. If at all possible, if Badri is given a go in the final test, and he gets to spend time with Dravid, and grinds out a good score, I am sure he will go back home a satisfied man.

  • saichander on July 5, 2011, 3:25 GMT

    Rahul Dravid's prediction of the Dominica pitch may be correct. The pacy and bouncy pitch may help Ishant and Mithun. But then the quality of batsman has helped more than the real ability of the bowlers in the two previous tests. It is implied from the statement and sentiments of Dravid that the team batting first in the Dominica pitch has to believe themselves and have a go. Harbhajan has to prove that he can be good at these types of pitches and India should go all out to prove that they are still Number ONE this format of cricket.

  • on July 5, 2011, 3:24 GMT

    THE TRACK IN THE WEST INDIES IS SLIGHTLY TOWARDS THE BOWLERS BECAUSE NO TEAM IN THIS SERIES YET HAVE MADE PAST 300. ONLY 7 PEOPLE MADE PAST 50 AND ONLY ONE HAD MADE PAST 100 WITH INDIA WITH WEST INDIES ONLY 3 PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN PAST FIFTY WITH NO HUNDREDS. THE SECOND TEST WE WERE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD AT THAT TIME WE COULD HAD GOTTEN THEM ALL OUT FOR ABOUT 140 - 150 RUNS BUT WE LOST 130 OVERS DURING TO RAIN AND THEN THEY MADE 190.

  • QingdaoXI on July 5, 2011, 3:06 GMT

    Go, India Go Win the Dominica Test and series by 2-0. Either zaheer or sreesanth would be their we would have won second test too and if both of them would have been there west indies have been all out before tea. Still Praveen got his chances and now he will be 4 pacer of Indian team in test.

  • HazyClarity on July 5, 2011, 2:37 GMT

    "The tracks have been slightly tilted towards bowlers, which is good" - a very intriguing comment coming from a batsman - which speaks volumes about Dravid's character and the kind of challenges which he looks forward to.

  • on July 5, 2011, 2:35 GMT

    It's true that a baptism by fire would hold the young heirs to Indian batting positions in good stead. Would help them understand the chasm between domestic and international cricket standards. At the same time, those who survive these experiences and tighten up their techniques would provide ample proof of their ambition and skills. Good luck to each one of these guys ..

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  • on July 5, 2011, 2:35 GMT

    It's true that a baptism by fire would hold the young heirs to Indian batting positions in good stead. Would help them understand the chasm between domestic and international cricket standards. At the same time, those who survive these experiences and tighten up their techniques would provide ample proof of their ambition and skills. Good luck to each one of these guys ..

  • HazyClarity on July 5, 2011, 2:37 GMT

    "The tracks have been slightly tilted towards bowlers, which is good" - a very intriguing comment coming from a batsman - which speaks volumes about Dravid's character and the kind of challenges which he looks forward to.

  • QingdaoXI on July 5, 2011, 3:06 GMT

    Go, India Go Win the Dominica Test and series by 2-0. Either zaheer or sreesanth would be their we would have won second test too and if both of them would have been there west indies have been all out before tea. Still Praveen got his chances and now he will be 4 pacer of Indian team in test.

  • on July 5, 2011, 3:24 GMT

    THE TRACK IN THE WEST INDIES IS SLIGHTLY TOWARDS THE BOWLERS BECAUSE NO TEAM IN THIS SERIES YET HAVE MADE PAST 300. ONLY 7 PEOPLE MADE PAST 50 AND ONLY ONE HAD MADE PAST 100 WITH INDIA WITH WEST INDIES ONLY 3 PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN PAST FIFTY WITH NO HUNDREDS. THE SECOND TEST WE WERE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD AT THAT TIME WE COULD HAD GOTTEN THEM ALL OUT FOR ABOUT 140 - 150 RUNS BUT WE LOST 130 OVERS DURING TO RAIN AND THEN THEY MADE 190.

  • saichander on July 5, 2011, 3:25 GMT

    Rahul Dravid's prediction of the Dominica pitch may be correct. The pacy and bouncy pitch may help Ishant and Mithun. But then the quality of batsman has helped more than the real ability of the bowlers in the two previous tests. It is implied from the statement and sentiments of Dravid that the team batting first in the Dominica pitch has to believe themselves and have a go. Harbhajan has to prove that he can be good at these types of pitches and India should go all out to prove that they are still Number ONE this format of cricket.

  • xylo on July 5, 2011, 3:38 GMT

    The fact that some of these young batsmen have showed resolve to fight it out bodes well. If at all possible, if Badri is given a go in the final test, and he gets to spend time with Dravid, and grinds out a good score, I am sure he will go back home a satisfied man.

  • N.Sundararajan on July 5, 2011, 3:57 GMT

    Dravid has once again shown his maturity and his position as the elder statesman on this tour. He has always been selfless and very macro in his approach---he is a thinking cricketer---and it shows !

    Wish the youngsters learn intensely from him----after all , Dravid, Scahin and Laxman will not be around for too long in future !

  • nzcricket174 on July 5, 2011, 4:02 GMT

    Pitches favouring bowlers is good for West Indies cricket. Back in Sunil Gavaskar's time you actually had to have a good technique rather than just knowing how to swing a bat. Anyone who knows a thing or two about WI and Gavaskar will know what I'm talking about.

  • on July 5, 2011, 4:20 GMT

    @HazyClarity I agree, really good to hear a batsman compliment a pitch that favours bowling, shows that he is interested in challenging himself rather than just padding his stats.

  • on July 5, 2011, 4:28 GMT

    "The tracks have been slightly tilted towards bowlers, which is good" It is not slightly, lol, totally.