West Indies news May 3, 2011

Roberts calls for complete WICB overhaul

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Andy Roberts, the former West Indies fast bowler, has said that the West Indies cricket board needs a complete overhaul if the region's cricket is to improve. He called on the board president Julian Hunte and the chief executive Ernerst Hilaire to resign and was also critical of the way the West Indies players' association approaches its role. Roberts said today's players spend too much time in the gym and not enough time in the nets.

Having coached West Indies in the 1996 World Cup and been on the West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) cricket committee as recently as 2008, Roberts understands how the existing system functions, and lashed out at the board, saying they were damaging cricket in the Caribbean. "The board does what it pleases them," Roberts told ESPNcricinfo. "They don't have a clue how to move West Indies cricket forward. They don't have a clue. Some of the board members should resign otherwise the same problems will keep appearing in the future also."

When asked specifically if he thinks Hunte and Hilaire should resign, Roberts said, "Both should resign. Some of the top people in the board should resign. We need a different approach."

The West Indies board recently decided to take cricket in the region in a new direction with an emphasis on playing younger players as the last 15 years have not produced significant improvements. Roberts, however, warned that this "new direction" could lead West Indies cricket into another cul-de-sac. "Fifteen years is a long time and we haven't seen much progress but if we don't change the current approach, another 15 years will go down the drain."

He feels that the board is erring by just focusing on a few players rather than thinking of developing cricket at the grassroots levels across the entire region. "You can't just concentrate on few players playing in the Test team. I have been saying this from 1995. The problem is that the board seems to view few players as the problem in West Indies cricket. That is wrong. The entire cricket in our region is in a mess. It's not about [Ramnaresh] Sarwan, [Shivnarine] Chanderpaul, [Chris] Gayle or [Dinanath] Ramnarine. Don't focus on two or three players.

"Focus on the lack of development of cricket and lack of advancement in players across the region. For 15 years, they have been just trying to focus on few players in Tests and haven't done much for the development of the game. Develop the regional sides, improve the system."

He believes that the real truth behind the on-going controversy between the board and some of the senior players might never be known. Gayle and Chanderpaul weren't selected for the Pakistan series, with Chanderpaul claiming the selectors asked him to retire, while Sarwan was only drafted in for the fourth ODI. "We have three sides on this issue - your side, my side and the truth. I don't think we will ever know the truth. Both parties have been presenting different versions."

However, Roberts thinks Chanderpaul should retire from the one-day cricket and focus solely on Test cricket. "It's not totally clear whether the selectors asked him to retire from all forms of cricket. Personally, I think Chanderpaul should retire from one-day cricket and focus on Tests. West Indies needs him in Tests."

At the same time, he thinks the board has not handled the situation properly. "I am not clear on the Gayle issue. Both parties' version differs so much. I wouldn't like to comment without knowing the truth but all I can say is that it's not being handled properly."

Roberts also had some advice for the WIPA, which he thinks is too focused on the monetary rewards from cricket rather than the quality of the players. "The president [Ramnarine] needs to get the players to improve their cricket. If they are good enough, they will get the money. If they aren't good, there will be confrontation and trouble as you are asking for something you don't deserve. The players should focus on setting their game right. Else we shall just keep having these problems."

The board does what it pleases them. They don't have a clue how to move West Indies cricket forward

The players did not escape criticism either, mostly for their attitude to personal development. "My advice to the players is to look at their cricket and take personal development seriously," Roberts said. "Work on the attitude, skill, fitness, technique and work on them yourselves. Don't wait for the board to do it. Don't indulge in blame game. If the players can improve their skills to the highest level, and improve the attitude, West Indies cricket will improve. They have to change their attitude. That can only come from within."

The emphasis on fitness at the expense of actual cricketing skills has led Roberts to believe the thinking in West Indies cricket has sunk to a new low. "The new thinking is not the old way. I know cricket has changed, thinking has changed but the basics are the same. The technique remains the same. You can't hold the ball across the seam and hope to bowl outswingers, for example."

He was critical of the approach of some players and the atmosphere fostered by the board that makes the players act in that manner. "Attitude and work ethic has changed. Lots of players don't practice cricket much. Some spend more time in the gym than in the nets.

"I heard Gayle being quoted as saying that the board says, 'If you are not fit, you can't play for West Indies'. That's not the wholesome approach. If you aren't technically and mentally good, and physical fit, then you can't play at the highest level. Less time in the gym and more time in nets is what is needed."

Sriram Veera is a staff writer at ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY on | May 6, 2011, 12:18 GMT

    Being a past great does not afford Andy any moral aothority. If he truly believes in the development Indies cricket as he claims he will have used his authority and influence to make antigue cricket the high point of west indies cricket. lets not forget Antigue has Roberts, Richarts, Ferris, Merrick, Baptiste and others and while they all seem to be speaking from the heart, what have they contributed in kind to develop the quality of cricket at the grass roots level back home? lets stop being hypocrites here because the grwoth of West Indies cricket will never be realised until many past players and others who can conrtibute give their free time towards the development of the skills level at the youth level. We dont have the money so we must become charitable. Roberts and all of them are about "whats in it for me"

  • POSTED BY on | May 6, 2011, 11:34 GMT

    What is sad is Andy was there and we saw no improvement. If he really cares as he is blabbering why isnt there a difference in Antigua and leeward Islands cricket? Everyone seem to know what the solution is but the grassroots have not been fortified one bit.

  • POSTED BY on | May 5, 2011, 16:14 GMT

    SADLY..how the mighty ave fallen!fearsome foursome (no mrshall in dat mind u!)with the likes of Richards,lloyd,haynes, Greenidge,rowe,kalicharran thrown into the mix..wat a team it was in 70's and 80's!unfortunately cudnt quite grapple with the seats gettin vacated often enough..a lack of proper infra,lack of incentives for young lads to take it upa s a a career probably..shambolic admin..all have aggravated this kinda situation plaguing them..ANDY ROBERTS Was indeed fiery,fast and a brooding meanacing assasin with his faraway looks.his spell (12 for)at Cheapauk in Chennai on agreenish pitch in Jan 1975 is part of cricketing folklore in this neck of the woods..tEST CRICKET NEEDS A STRONG AND VIBRANT WINDIES OUTFIT for their sheer joie de vivre,cavalier spirits!

  • POSTED BY on | May 5, 2011, 15:44 GMT

    YOU CAN'T DO MUCH ABOUT IT. YOU NEED TO THROW OUT WIPA WHICH IS THE MAIN REASON FOR PLAYERS POOR PERFORMANCES. THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE GRANTED FOR SURE. THERE SOUL IS DEAD. AND SO IS WEST INDIES CRICKET. AND THEY DON'T HAVE DESIRE TO PLAY.

  • POSTED BY Mr.JA on | May 5, 2011, 12:44 GMT

    I agree with Andy.Darren Sammy is the main problem . He is a selection headache. Sammy affects the balance of the side. with Sammy in the side u have to drop a frontline batsman, the wicketkeeper or a bowler who is more potent. Case in point the world cup where Shiv was dropped, Rampaul left out and even Rusell who was taking wickets had to be left out. I remember the problems with Ben and Shillingford who were both bowling well and presented problems for selectors. We need aggressive quickies to open the bowling. And with Sammy doing so the pressure is realeased early. I recommend that we can have either Bravo or Sammy(not as captain) or neither. Bravo bat at Eight after the keeper. Nash as captain. Six front line batmen. Baugh or Ramdine. Bishoo is a must. To good fast men, Rampaul and roach. Probable in batting order. Simmons,Chanderpaul, Darren Bravo,Sarwan,Samuels, Nash,Baugh, Dwayne Bravo, Rampaul,Roach and Bishoo. Bowling provided by : Roach,Rampaul,Bravo,Bishoo, Nash and Simmo

  • POSTED BY PaddyRasta on | May 5, 2011, 11:59 GMT

    It's a shame WI can't afford Gary Kirsten- We need a good new coach!

  • POSTED BY on | May 5, 2011, 9:46 GMT

    @cric_fanatics: I'm sad to see THAT dream of yours won't come true. My commiserations. :D

  • POSTED BY on | May 5, 2011, 9:05 GMT

    Andy is right about the players. Pakistan has an equally horrid management but the difference has been wrought by our players. Of-course, they are more likely to be patriotic because they represent one country, and here is where the west indians deserve some leeway, but at the end of the day, they will just have to create that extra bit of passion that is the driving force. Pakistan are also fielding an inexperienced side. I as a pakistani resent having to face Bishoo, Darren Bravo and Lendl Simmons. I just don't see any self-belief in the west indies camp though. I think the rain has given them a much-needed break and they could well come back really really hard at us. I'm glad to know. I want Pakistan to win and I also want our opponents to do their best to stop us, making for a sweeter victory. I want us to beat an excellent team, preferably after losing a decisive toss. That is how west indies can do both us and themselves a favour.

  • POSTED BY on | May 5, 2011, 3:05 GMT

    Sri Lanka finished runners up at the last two ICC W.C. The performance of the team cannot be faulted. Yet at the end of the last campaign the captain and the selectors resigned. The West Indies failed miserably and the coach, captain, selectors and board remain firmly entrenched. I am sorry to say that I agree with the comment posted. We need a clean slate to start to write on. The board needs to go, the captain needs to go, and to save face and the inevitable the coach should duck out now......At the end of his tenure the WI will be at their worst ever. We need to make changes at school and club levels and build a foundation on which our international cricket can grow. We need change and realistic and effective change and we need it now!!! The board and present coach will not advance us one inch........

  • POSTED BY on | May 5, 2011, 2:08 GMT

    I believe that Mr Roberts have spoken from the heart. Over the years has displayed that sort of levelheadedness even on the field of play. He has touched the very heart of the many issues facing our cricket. The WICB is in self denial for some time now. The members have place veils over their faces when the problems of West Indies cricket is before them. Andy said it right some of them should go they forget or they don't know the rudiments of the game. Over the years we have been having problems with our cricket. Even the man on the street knows why our cricket has decline thus far.Too little and the mediocrity remains a problem The board never address that, the problem of cricket at the grass-root level has never been properly address also, our wickets have been deteriorating over the years, hence the quality of good players are few and far between.Teams which were of lesser statue have manage to put systems in place to develop their cricket while we are behind fighting one another.

  • POSTED BY on | May 6, 2011, 12:18 GMT

    Being a past great does not afford Andy any moral aothority. If he truly believes in the development Indies cricket as he claims he will have used his authority and influence to make antigue cricket the high point of west indies cricket. lets not forget Antigue has Roberts, Richarts, Ferris, Merrick, Baptiste and others and while they all seem to be speaking from the heart, what have they contributed in kind to develop the quality of cricket at the grass roots level back home? lets stop being hypocrites here because the grwoth of West Indies cricket will never be realised until many past players and others who can conrtibute give their free time towards the development of the skills level at the youth level. We dont have the money so we must become charitable. Roberts and all of them are about "whats in it for me"

  • POSTED BY on | May 6, 2011, 11:34 GMT

    What is sad is Andy was there and we saw no improvement. If he really cares as he is blabbering why isnt there a difference in Antigua and leeward Islands cricket? Everyone seem to know what the solution is but the grassroots have not been fortified one bit.

  • POSTED BY on | May 5, 2011, 16:14 GMT

    SADLY..how the mighty ave fallen!fearsome foursome (no mrshall in dat mind u!)with the likes of Richards,lloyd,haynes, Greenidge,rowe,kalicharran thrown into the mix..wat a team it was in 70's and 80's!unfortunately cudnt quite grapple with the seats gettin vacated often enough..a lack of proper infra,lack of incentives for young lads to take it upa s a a career probably..shambolic admin..all have aggravated this kinda situation plaguing them..ANDY ROBERTS Was indeed fiery,fast and a brooding meanacing assasin with his faraway looks.his spell (12 for)at Cheapauk in Chennai on agreenish pitch in Jan 1975 is part of cricketing folklore in this neck of the woods..tEST CRICKET NEEDS A STRONG AND VIBRANT WINDIES OUTFIT for their sheer joie de vivre,cavalier spirits!

  • POSTED BY on | May 5, 2011, 15:44 GMT

    YOU CAN'T DO MUCH ABOUT IT. YOU NEED TO THROW OUT WIPA WHICH IS THE MAIN REASON FOR PLAYERS POOR PERFORMANCES. THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE GRANTED FOR SURE. THERE SOUL IS DEAD. AND SO IS WEST INDIES CRICKET. AND THEY DON'T HAVE DESIRE TO PLAY.

  • POSTED BY Mr.JA on | May 5, 2011, 12:44 GMT

    I agree with Andy.Darren Sammy is the main problem . He is a selection headache. Sammy affects the balance of the side. with Sammy in the side u have to drop a frontline batsman, the wicketkeeper or a bowler who is more potent. Case in point the world cup where Shiv was dropped, Rampaul left out and even Rusell who was taking wickets had to be left out. I remember the problems with Ben and Shillingford who were both bowling well and presented problems for selectors. We need aggressive quickies to open the bowling. And with Sammy doing so the pressure is realeased early. I recommend that we can have either Bravo or Sammy(not as captain) or neither. Bravo bat at Eight after the keeper. Nash as captain. Six front line batmen. Baugh or Ramdine. Bishoo is a must. To good fast men, Rampaul and roach. Probable in batting order. Simmons,Chanderpaul, Darren Bravo,Sarwan,Samuels, Nash,Baugh, Dwayne Bravo, Rampaul,Roach and Bishoo. Bowling provided by : Roach,Rampaul,Bravo,Bishoo, Nash and Simmo

  • POSTED BY PaddyRasta on | May 5, 2011, 11:59 GMT

    It's a shame WI can't afford Gary Kirsten- We need a good new coach!

  • POSTED BY on | May 5, 2011, 9:46 GMT

    @cric_fanatics: I'm sad to see THAT dream of yours won't come true. My commiserations. :D

  • POSTED BY on | May 5, 2011, 9:05 GMT

    Andy is right about the players. Pakistan has an equally horrid management but the difference has been wrought by our players. Of-course, they are more likely to be patriotic because they represent one country, and here is where the west indians deserve some leeway, but at the end of the day, they will just have to create that extra bit of passion that is the driving force. Pakistan are also fielding an inexperienced side. I as a pakistani resent having to face Bishoo, Darren Bravo and Lendl Simmons. I just don't see any self-belief in the west indies camp though. I think the rain has given them a much-needed break and they could well come back really really hard at us. I'm glad to know. I want Pakistan to win and I also want our opponents to do their best to stop us, making for a sweeter victory. I want us to beat an excellent team, preferably after losing a decisive toss. That is how west indies can do both us and themselves a favour.

  • POSTED BY on | May 5, 2011, 3:05 GMT

    Sri Lanka finished runners up at the last two ICC W.C. The performance of the team cannot be faulted. Yet at the end of the last campaign the captain and the selectors resigned. The West Indies failed miserably and the coach, captain, selectors and board remain firmly entrenched. I am sorry to say that I agree with the comment posted. We need a clean slate to start to write on. The board needs to go, the captain needs to go, and to save face and the inevitable the coach should duck out now......At the end of his tenure the WI will be at their worst ever. We need to make changes at school and club levels and build a foundation on which our international cricket can grow. We need change and realistic and effective change and we need it now!!! The board and present coach will not advance us one inch........

  • POSTED BY on | May 5, 2011, 2:08 GMT

    I believe that Mr Roberts have spoken from the heart. Over the years has displayed that sort of levelheadedness even on the field of play. He has touched the very heart of the many issues facing our cricket. The WICB is in self denial for some time now. The members have place veils over their faces when the problems of West Indies cricket is before them. Andy said it right some of them should go they forget or they don't know the rudiments of the game. Over the years we have been having problems with our cricket. Even the man on the street knows why our cricket has decline thus far.Too little and the mediocrity remains a problem The board never address that, the problem of cricket at the grass-root level has never been properly address also, our wickets have been deteriorating over the years, hence the quality of good players are few and far between.Teams which were of lesser statue have manage to put systems in place to develop their cricket while we are behind fighting one another.

  • POSTED BY Silloh on | May 5, 2011, 0:13 GMT

    Andy Roberts has the moral authority to speak on West Indies cricket, being one of the former great fast bowlers we have ever witnessed. But what will come out of his comments ? Nothing, as evidenced in the past. Why not get together wither former great players of the past and together approach Caricom Heads of Govt with firm recommendations to move us from the pits. Unless that is constructively done , such comments will fall on deaf ears, Roberts will go down as another arm chair cricket general commentator, and the fans would continue to feel the pain. I am not sure if these Heads are even interested in WI cricket as we would have seen some intervention already.

  • POSTED BY PACERONE on | May 4, 2011, 18:38 GMT

    First off we cannot win with 11 men how are we going to win with 10? The captain has to be replaced.The coach was the English bowling coach and there is no visable improvement in our bowling that he has a hand in. Sammy's and Bravo's bowling has gotten worse. Nash should be playing in ODI games...he is a great feilder and good runner between wickets..knows how to rotate the strike. We need Forbes Burnham back..he might get the right players selected. There is too much passing of blame around. Lets get rid of present personel in both WICB and WIPA. Lots of us are willing to help with other knowledgeable people who have WI cricket at heart. Let's hope that Desmond can help correct some of the deficiencies in our top batsmen.

  • POSTED BY kentjones on | May 4, 2011, 18:13 GMT

    Andy Roberts thank you for saying what many other past WI cricketers and past administrators wont. If we cannot be brutally honest about the state of WI cricket, we WILL REMAIN at the bottom of the cricket ladder for the next 100 years. The entire WICB MUST GO and NOW!!!

    We can go on with business as usual. Lets have a consortium for cricket. Lets get private citizens., corporate citizens, caribbean govts, all interested in WI cricket involved. Lets sit down (forget about international cricket for a little while, we are losing anyway) and sort this thing out. Lets put our heads together and come up with a format for getting the best players in the region playing and represengin WI. Long live WI!!!

    Otherwise we are doomed to continuing mediocrity forever and ever!

  • POSTED BY truguynese on | May 4, 2011, 16:17 GMT

    I could not agree more with Andy Roberts , he has said what a lot of people are thinking.Just on one point, we don't have to look far or hard, Darren Sammy, the captain,no doubt physically fit but O GOD lacking in every facet of the game of cricket, he reminds me of sunday afternoon cricketers, full of enthusiasm but with little or no skills.

  • POSTED BY Challie on | May 4, 2011, 15:43 GMT

    Thank you Mr. A.M.E. Roberts! That is the point that I have been making all along. I am sure that Mr. Hunte is trying his best, but things are not changing. So now he (and others) have to politely step aside, and give someone else a chance to take this Bad Boy out of the ditch. I cringed when I read the bulletin that said Mr. Hunte had "been re-elected unopposed to the presidency of the WICB." We appreciate your service Gentlemen, but please give someone else a try...Windies Forever!!!

  • POSTED BY Sportsscientist on | May 4, 2011, 15:10 GMT

    andy roberts has spotted and identified the problem. the WICB has NEVER EVER managed or adminstratively run the game in the region effectively.....THROUGHOUT ITS HISTORY!!!!! people need to understand this first. when clive lloyd, andy roberts, joel garner, micheal holding, and deryck murray tried to set up a players union, it was to get better terms and conditions for the players. The WICB ALWAYS tried to UNDERMINE and DESTROY that organisation !!!!!! they NEVER forgave theose guys for going to kerry packer, and MAINTAINED that attitude throughout viv's captaincy & richie richardson's also. Now Mr Ramnarine has got control of the players union and the players have other professional options outside the region (the IPL & KFC big bash), the WIPA are DOING THEIR OWN THING!!!!! THEY DON'T NEED THE BOARD ANYMORE. "yu cyant have two bull inna one pen!!" by locking horns the two will eventually mash up the PEN!!!!

  • POSTED BY nataraajds on | May 4, 2011, 14:10 GMT

    what Roberts says is ture face of WI cricket now. there is something wrong in elementary level of WI cricket & board has completely neglected this part and the result there is no quality players. we never seen a quality fast bowler after walsh & Ambrose pair. Take the case of Zimbabwe cricket ,Once they were on top when Andy,Grant ,Cambel, streak were playing,, due to bad selection politics.,now they have lot the status of playing test cricket. same is the case with WI cricket.

  • POSTED BY Vasi-Koosi on | May 4, 2011, 11:33 GMT

    I am pained every time I read these kind of articles on WI cricket. They are one of the most exciting and flamboyant bunch to play the game; Lara & "The King" - Sir Viv Richards have more followers in India than anywhere in the world. The sorry part is that ICC is toothless... Hope better sense prevails...

  • POSTED BY on | May 4, 2011, 10:33 GMT

    Well said Mr. Roberts, on ALL counts! I have called for the WICB to go for years now, they are the core of our cricketing woes! Get rid of them and the rest will fall in place. They are petty and jealous of some of the current players and their ability to earn outside of West Indies cricket. We all know that WIPA has an axe to grind because their President feels he did not get a fair shot at playing for West Indies, I tend to agree, but that was then time to look beyond this and be part of the molding of strong body not the cracks. The players some of whom cannot even command a pick on the starting XI yet they are there, Devon Smith should be done with, period he hardly have a "good day" if they are talking about youth, he is what 29 there are younger guys that can open and they should not be held back until we have to travel on a tour to do to them what we did to Simmons and others, expose them NOW!

  • POSTED BY WestIndies1987 on | May 4, 2011, 10:08 GMT

    I think we can all agree that that just about everyone who is interviewed on the ills of our cricket have great ideas but they are not the ones who can implement them. The WICB needs to change and change FAST.

  • POSTED BY Silva-Surfa on | May 4, 2011, 9:12 GMT

    Well said Mr Roberts!!..i haven't always agreed with his opinions in the past, but one thing i like about his views is that he tells it as it is, no sugar-coating or fence-sitting. What a surprise, the Board throwing their weight around involving alot of political hypocrisy. Making the senior players the scapegoat's for what is a bigger problem in Caribbean-cricket. The Board are a bunch of Bureaucrats who only care about their own status and are completely incapable of seeing the bigger picture. Everybody in the Caribbean knows that the main core problem of all the under-achieving mediocrity over the years, involving West Indies cricket, is due to the disorganised bully-boys at the top. We need more legends who care about the game and know what is required, to start afresh at grassroots level and compete at a high standard, instead of a rag-tag team of power-suits, who blame everybody else except themselves. As long as they're at the helm, our decline will continue.

  • POSTED BY on | May 4, 2011, 7:15 GMT

    lol cant understand this hysteria.I feel the first thing which needs to happen for WI is to disband the players association.They are mainly responsible for all wrongs in WI cricket.Also another thing i feel some of the former greats of WI they need to be encourage the current team rather than talk off this mass hysteria on what they did during their days.Also they need to have a captain who can hold his place in the squad.As far as Ganga goes i feel he is past his sell off date.probably couple of years back he might have been a good choice but now i dont think so.They can try out someone like Bishoo as he atleast has his place secured as a bowler or else they can have different captains for ODI and test cricket like let Nash captain their test squad and someone like bishoo be for ODIs so he can learn the trade

  • POSTED BY on | May 4, 2011, 7:09 GMT

    Wait for it...Ok, the decision is out! WICB, you gotta go! You are the weakest link. Goodbye!

  • POSTED BY everfaithful77 on | May 4, 2011, 6:30 GMT

    I AGREE WITH WHAT ANDY ROBERTS SAID ABOUT DEVELOPING GRASS ROOTS CRICKET, WIPA AND NET PRACTICE VS GYM WORK; BUT I DON'T AGREE THAT THE NEW DIRECTION THE WICB HAS TAKEN WILL KEEP WEST INDIES CRICKET BACK ANOTHER 15 YEARS. ON THE CONTRARY IT IS A SIMILAR POLICY OF RECRUITING YOUNG TALENT ADOPTED BY ENGLAND, INDIA AND PAKISTAN THAT HAS LEAD TO THEIR SUCCESS IN T20 AND WORLD CUP. WE WERE LOSING BADLY WITH GAYLE, SARWAN, CHANDERPAUL AND RAMDIN IN THE TEAM. SOME OF US HAVE VERY SHORT MEMORIES: ONLY LAST YEAR WE WERE WHITE WASHED BY SOUTH AFRICA 5-0. THE SELECTORS JUST NEED TO FIND THE RIGHT BALANCE IN THE TEAM FOR EACH GAME. HAVING SIMMONS TO KEEP WAS A BRILLIANT MOVE THAT ALLOWS AN XTRA BATSMAN. 2 SPINNERS SHOULD PLAY IN GUYANA. BRINGING BACK SARWAN WAS A GOOD MOVE BUT CHANDERS SHOULD RETIRE FROM ODI'S AND PLAY ONLY TEST CRICKET. THE 5th ODI AT HIS HOME GROUND IN GUYANA WOULD BE THE PERFECT GAME TO RETIRE IN STYLE BUT HE AND WICB MUST AGREE. WE MUST BE MORE PATIENT WITH NEW LOOK WI TEAM.

  • POSTED BY cric_fanatics on | May 4, 2011, 6:07 GMT

    Imagine andy roberts against the pakistan batsmen...they fold out for 70 against mediocre attacks...i guess it would be like 30 all out....

  • POSTED BY R.W.E on | May 4, 2011, 5:55 GMT

    Keep on hearing interview upon interview from the great players of WI cricket on the sores of WI cricket, yet no change... I would want to believe that comments and advice from these legends are welcome by the WICB. The players are to be blamed for not thinking like professional cricketers most of the time, however, when comments by the those who have been there blame the board leaves one to question what really is the problem and the way forward.. I agree, we need change; we have changed our players (bad decision) and no results thus far... maybe its time for a new FACE for the WICB... They are very much involved in the demise of WI cricket...

  • POSTED BY Rahic on | May 4, 2011, 5:03 GMT

    Great article Mr. Roberts, you have clearly identified the problem. The Board and Selectors have to go if West Indies Cricket is to survive. What I still can't understand is that the three players they are focusing their energies in eliminating or picking on, are the best three players on the team. Furthermore, the inconsistencies in Board's statements as the story unravels, is mind boggling.

  • POSTED BY VivGilchrist on | May 4, 2011, 4:12 GMT

    Play more 4 day cricket at domestic level. Get rid of CCC and distribute the players to the other 6 teams. Every team plays eachother home and away, giving each team 10 games a year just like Sheffield Shield in Australia. This will provide a better platform for players to step up into Test cricket. Maybe introduce Canada and Bermuda, even USA into the 50 over comp also as it is important to expand the game in North America.

  • POSTED BY on | May 4, 2011, 3:46 GMT

    I am an Indian but why don't all the West Indian public across all the island countries start a movement demanding dissolving of the WICB and change in attitude of the WIPA? They, both seem to be doing more harm to cricket than any good.

  • POSTED BY NBRADEE on | May 4, 2011, 1:52 GMT

    The greatest piece of truth uttered by Mr. Roberts - "Fifteen years is a long time and we haven't seen much progress but if we don't change the current approach, another 15 years will go down the drain." Well - according to cgtboy87, we ain't ever going to see the progress all but Messrs Hunte and Hilaire can envision *sigh*...

  • POSTED BY hemant.pande on | May 4, 2011, 1:35 GMT

    I am veru much agreed to andy... In my opinion WI needs a new WICB members...If my advice has tobe taken...let it be a chunk of players from our great times..someone of the likes of Clive Llyod, Vivian richards, Andy Roberts, Haynes, Garry Sobers...and a big list to follow... In bowling one can take advice of Walsh, Ambrose....

  • POSTED BY on | May 4, 2011, 0:52 GMT

    Love most of your comments, but i stand in the same corner with Erskine Jones.. THat's my thinking, we the fans, yes passionate fans need to take our stand NOW! This is the game n team that we love so much n it's really sad with whta's happening.........

  • POSTED BY on | May 4, 2011, 0:44 GMT

    I remember when West Indies was really dominating in 1970, 80s, 90s. nw they dnt have batting and bowling.

  • POSTED BY satspeare on | May 3, 2011, 23:56 GMT

    Very well said Mr. Roberts. This is the kind of spain talk and honesty we need now. It is alos time for Sammy to give up the captaincy if his performance as a player is to improve - he is not doing so well as captain either. Bring Ganga as captain, Ramdin as keeper and please stop this very unwise thing with the one performing batsman so far this series - Simmons needs to stop keeping pronto and keep concentrating on his batting or this briliant leadership thinks he has arrived, so pressure him to fail? For goodness sake bring back Tiger - he has served faithfully and deserve to be allowed to retire with dignity. Maybe plead with BCL to return to the game and play in a mentoring role on the team. Thanks for recognising the talent in Haynes- finally some recognition but temporarily?? why to be discarded like he was when up for the captaincy? We NEED to have folks incharge who have experienced success on the field to piont the way not below average under-performers with idea how to win.

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 23:38 GMT

    That was well said Mr Roberts,the team needs a new direction, and i think the board needs a new direction also. I am calling on all the leaders of caricom PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT STAND BY AND WATCH WI CRICKET GO DOWN ANY FURTHER. Step in and save WI cricket from thoseboard members who do not care about WI cricket.

  • POSTED BY ygkd on | May 3, 2011, 22:14 GMT

    What Roberts has to say makes a lot of sense to me.

  • POSTED BY cgtboy87 on | May 3, 2011, 22:06 GMT

    ANDY IF THIS IS FOR THE WICB YOU HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF TRYING TO GET A DEAF PERSON TO HEAR THIS AND A BLIND PERSON TO READ IT.

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 21:47 GMT

    Yes. Like this. For once someone who is not afraid to point out WI sore. Now all we need is for this doctor to remove the puss and dead flesh (WICB-Hunte and Hilaire) apply the medication (new executives and approach) and let the wound (WI cricket) heal. If not our cricket will become a life sore.We need help we need a doctor.A past cricketer We need you Andy Roberts.

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 20:23 GMT

    Chanderpaul is a great player. His play is needed for WI. we will see it after some months. really. He is a guy who is able to hit as well as play slowly. He is awesome player. Only gud thing WI can do is just remove sammy from the team. :)

  • POSTED BY bajan1 on | May 3, 2011, 19:17 GMT

    Viv Richards made many of these points a while ago, West Indian cricketers are over coached, and most have deviated from their natural cricketing ability.They spend too much time working out in the gym and not enough time developing the actual cricket skills and techniques necessary to be great players. Viv described playing in the streets on uneven pavements, where that natural hand to eye coordination is developed. Also, where are all the tall fast bowlers gone to...its amazing that they are no West Indies fast bowlers can no longer intimidate anyone with with at least one ball out of an over. Lastly, it is clear when former players like Holding, Viv, Andy and many other are not in position to offer their experience to what it seems like a board full of individuals that have an agenda other than developing Caribbean cricket, that an overhaul is the right thing to do.. I love the West Indies, but it is so disappointing to watch these days, that something drastic has to be done.......

  • POSTED BY harikeshan on | May 3, 2011, 18:35 GMT

    Andy Roberts is SPOT on just as he was bowling in his prime. Its time the WICB kicks out these so called adminsitrators who have been dragging the regions sporting glory and history in a bid to make money. I quite sure legends who were part of Lloyd team will be happy to bring back the glory that has eluded them for so long.

  • POSTED BY jupiterlaw on | May 3, 2011, 18:31 GMT

    Andy Roberts is not consistent in his views. Many years ago, he was the lone voice in the wilderness speaking out against this system of "incumbency" as he put it. Against his protestations, WICB continued to maintain the system. Now that they are heeding his advice and moving away from this system of "incumbency", Roberts sees fit to jump on another horse(s). He may be the one without a clue.

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 18:20 GMT

    Indeed a shame when successive WI teams have underperformed over the last 15 years. Hope they taste success again. Wish to see WI fast bowlers terrorize batsmen with their bouncers like the greats of the past did..

  • POSTED BY Alkais on | May 3, 2011, 18:05 GMT

    Players Cant be administrators and vice versa. WICB should ask former players like Richards, Andy,Gordon and Ambrose. These 4 people should be answerable to Cheif Executive of Board. These 4 ex players should be given task of coming with plan on how to develop the game at grass roots level. These people will attract people which administrators fail to do. The plan should be discussed and implemented. The plan should be monitored say every 3yrs. After 3 yrs there should be a review of how the system went about. This will help in improving the grass root level cricket. And also some increase in the monetary benefit will also attract youngsters. They should be made aware playing cricket also gives them good money. This will help them in coming forward to play cricket. Talking about attitude,skill of players. Its the job of players to improve them.

  • POSTED BY Stark62 on | May 3, 2011, 17:57 GMT

    Has everyone forgotten that even with Gayle, Pollard (not ODI material and nvm Tests), Chanders, Sars and Benn in the team they still lost all their matches against the top 6 teams?

    At least the current crop of guys aren't getting rolled over for 112!

    They needed to move on but maybe they could have kept at least two senior pro's like Sars and one other (maybe Chanders) plus, Bravo and Smauels are still there.

  • POSTED BY fox6020 on | May 3, 2011, 17:38 GMT

    I totally agree with Andy Roberts. The WICB must resign now before the Test Series. Bring In the great players of the era when the West Indies was unbeatable to head the board and be the selectors. I agree that we must focus on the youth to build the West Indies team, but you cannot take out the senior players at the same time. We need players like Chanderpaul and Gayle and Sarwan to share their experience whilsr playing with the young players in the team. We have some young players in the current team such as Bishoo, Simmons & Darren Bravo who have shown alot of potential. Bring back the keeper Ramdin, Chanders, Sarwan for the test. Also we need a captain who can contribute...what about Darren Ganga???? he had a great first class season with the bat...

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 17:23 GMT

    Andy you are on the SPOT but it seems the only way change may be brought about for the betterment of West Indies cricket is by all the WI cricket fans taking the drastic stand of boycott all the games. This will send a clear message to the WICB and WIPA and also ease the constant disappointment of watching a team under-performing.

  • POSTED BY exuma on | May 3, 2011, 17:08 GMT

    An accurate assesment of WI cricket by a reliable person, unfortunatelt the WICB dosent care, they will never resign for the benifit of WI Cricket. The gravey train and big life is too sweet at the top to give it up. CARICOM or the regional boards need to stepin, if they have the power to do so and mave some changes with the WICB, selectors, coach. we have made the player changes and it has not work, hence the problem must be elsewhere like the board and president. the fault also lies with the regional boards, as they nominated these guys to be on the WICB.Regional boards stop sending unqualify people just so you can have a friend on the board, select the best persons to serve wicb and best interest of cricket in the region.EXUMA

  • POSTED BY calcric on | May 3, 2011, 17:00 GMT

    This is a sad indictment on the WI Cricket Board, and the whole region of cricket lovers should breathe a collective sigh...not of relief but of consternation and some anger. It seems that the Patterson report is on the shelf collecting dust, and the caricom committee on cricket has no influence on the landed gentry. Hillairre has admitted that the Board has told the selectors who to pick to play for the WI. Thats why we went to a world cup without our best Wicketkeeper, with so many unknowns. For that alone the WI board and Selectors should have been fired, they never took responsibility for blooding more new players than any other team at the world cup and expecting different results.It felt to me as if we just got up one morning and found out there was a world cup to play. Shame on the board and the selectors. You look at the inconsistency in the selectors position players are not being chosen on cricket but on politics, and that was admitted by Mr. Hillaire. to b continued

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 16:55 GMT

    well said well done complete over haull they all should resign with grace and for the good of west indies cricket . I AM A TRUE WEST INDIAN

  • POSTED BY candyfloss on | May 3, 2011, 16:43 GMT

    Yes WICB needs to be overhauled and the domestic structure needs to be reformed,plus now is the time to try new players since WI has a weak team like pakistan visiting.

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 16:14 GMT

    @Peteris well said and the same can be said of the Team it s has players from all regions rather than the best players. Can I nominate myself for a WICB member president perhaps lol. The Jamaica football federation was asked by FIFA to cut its board member saying they have the largest in the world. Why do we pack up our sporting heads with so many person all we need is 5 / 6 good minds.

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 15:56 GMT

    Anyone who thinks that the source of all problems rests ONLY with the WICB, is either extremely naive, or shamelessly biased!....

  • POSTED BY Planters on | May 3, 2011, 15:50 GMT

    As much as it is true, it is not new. People from inside and outside the region have being saying this for years. Lots of money has gone into doing studies of how to reform West Indies cricket. Does the Patterson report ring a bell?? That is over 6 years ago. How much of that is just sitting on a mantle piece at WICB headquaters along with several other reports/commission recommendations?? It is very clear that the WIBC will not change itself, so how do we change it?

  • POSTED BY inot on | May 3, 2011, 15:48 GMT

    BINGO!....MR ROBERTS you are bang on but where are other reasonable people like you? I hold the similar views and for several weeks I felt I was alone. What you said is so obvious that I am surprised that there were not more people jumping into the fray. Journalists and commentators have been playing on the edges as West Indies cricket was being destroyed. It has been clear for some time that the leadership of the Board does not have a clue on so many counts. They never had any real plan and they do not seem to know how to develop one. They failed miserable and instead of accepting responsibility for their failures and taking steps to improve, they elected to blame and destroy the moral of their best players. Does that sound like a good plan to inspire young players? I GREAT CALL ANDY...HOWEVER, THE FACT THAT YOU ARE THE LONE VOICE OF THE OBVIOUS DOES NOT GIVE ME MUCH HOPE FOR CHANGE. WI CRICKET WILL CONTINUE TO DECLINE IF THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATORS REMAIN IN OFFICE.

  • POSTED BY valram on | May 3, 2011, 15:39 GMT

    i have been identifying the same problem for quite some time now and am glad that Andy(who has more credibility that I do ) has echoed my sentiments.What is needed is a combination of Managerial skills and cricketing know how.In other words "Aces in the right places"Let the WICB hire and empower a cricket team management committee, and give them their financial guidelines and their deliverables.That committee must ..after meeting and analysing the team and its future must submit a plan for the next 3 years at a time..make the plan public..and let the public buy into it...Corporate Caribbean would surely love to see their names attached to a winning product and all would feel part of the success .Cricket is what makes us somebody of count on the World scene...not sand sea and sex...I hereby humbly apply for the job...call me

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 15:16 GMT

    If its any comfort Andy Roberts we have to contend with the PCB!

  • POSTED BY vivensub on | May 3, 2011, 15:06 GMT

    Nice, sound words from a man who played that way in the field as well.

  • POSTED BY akskada on | May 3, 2011, 14:56 GMT

    pearls of wisdom for any aspiring cricketer... you could expect such a thing only from a high-class cricketer like Andy...

  • POSTED BY checkdrive on | May 3, 2011, 14:50 GMT

    Andy is 'on the spot' with him analysis of West Indies cricket. That includes his reference to WIPA's responsibility to 'the quality of players and not just the monetary rewards'. As an active organization in West Indies cricket, WIPA has to be proactive and 'step up to the plate' to assist ALL of the players in the region to improve their game. The organization has to provide the opportunities for players' development both on the field and beyond the boundary, so that the region can produce holistic gems. WIPA can truly be a catalyst for redefining the future of West Indies cricket.

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | May 3, 2011, 14:38 GMT

    May be they should divide west indies Team. Seems like guyana wants its players, T&T wants its players....

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 14:31 GMT

    Just shows why this man played cricket - and why the present group of players never reach this level of skills, let alone the passion for representing the nation. Every word uttered is in the best interests of Caribbean cricket.

  • POSTED BY cablemannpete on | May 3, 2011, 14:29 GMT

    I totally agree with Andy Robers.Hunte and HIllaire should resign.I have been saying this for a while.They seem to be or want to be more popular than the guys who play the game.They think cricket is about them. Now I dont mind change but change cannot be too drastic.Lets say they had brought Bishoo and simmons into the one days and left sarwan and gayle I do believe that this would be a better series.

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 14:20 GMT

    it is about how much more can be given from how much less they have...that's the predicament for W.I.Board....

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 14:00 GMT

    Well said sir.....straight to the point....let hope they listen

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 13:56 GMT

    i totally agree with andy robert in every thing,........ say no more

  • POSTED BY lugujaga on | May 3, 2011, 13:53 GMT

    Andy Roberts is a man who don't say much but when he does say something, it makes a lot of sense. This man has the best interest of West Indies cricket at heart and he has been on the inside and the outside of the West Indies cricket setup- both as an administrator and a great player. The WICB and players are lucky that they are getting premium advice for free; they better use it before they have to pay a so-called consultant to come and tell them the same thing for big wasted buck$.

  • POSTED BY TestIP on | May 3, 2011, 13:42 GMT

    FINALLY! Well said Sir! Unless the entire WICB is changed the WI cricket is not going anywhere. These guys are selfish and has no clue to manage the team in the correct manner for them to be competitive. The keep on selecting the same old guys who cannot play causing the team to fail time after time. All the good talents are hidden or left undeveloped. Taylor is a good bowler, roach is a good bowler but there is no guidance for them. Similarly you have Pollard, Ramdin, Darren Bravo and Lindi simmons who can bat but there is no guidance. As soon as the fail one match the get drop and replace by idiots. Darren samrry should be SACKED as well as this dude cannot bat nor bowl. Time for a change in the team WI should be Gayle, Simmons, Sarwan, Darren Bravo,D Bravo,Pollard, Ramdin,Bishoo, Taylor,Roach and Edwards. Try this and see what a difference we will make and how competitive we will be. SACK em fast and save the WI team before it is too late.

  • POSTED BY rayinto on | May 3, 2011, 13:38 GMT

    Way to go Andy! Tell them like it is! This is what your bowling partners Michael Holding and Colin Croft and also Bishop were saying all along. Dr Hilaire & Dr Hunte have a poor strategy for West Indies cricket. They use shock value in promoting change does not work. Change is only good when it is for the better. They need to nurture and promote at the grassroots level and also show respect to the experienced talent we already have. Hillaire for example belittled out national under 16-crickets for example by making statements that half of them were illiterate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLNG9ccI220. This is not how you build confidence in our young talent. So yes, i agree, we need a CEO who understands people and cares about West indies Cricket, and does not promote his own agenda. Any, What are your thoughts on Sammy's inclusion ? Should we continue with a playing position called captain?

  • POSTED BY CricketChat on | May 3, 2011, 13:37 GMT

    Words of true wisdom!. Why someone like Roberts with so much passion, proven champion for WI cricket is on the sidelines while mediocrity rules?. Involve the past greats in planning, coaching and unearthing new talent. That is the only way to go for WI team to be a force in world cricket.

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 13:36 GMT

    Well the problem with West Indies cricket is that now people do not feel an attachment to the name West Indies as for other sports they support their own countries. When WI was a force at that time it was seen as a Black Power taking on the whites and had massive popularity. Over this this feeling has gone which is simultaneous with decline of WI. The selectors in WICB represent their nation to push their players rather than pushing best players for WI In my opinion WI should be broken up into various teams:- Guyana, T&T, Jamaica, Barbados and a WI (Made of Windward and Leeward islands along with Invitation to any other Island in the area who want to join). This would definitely bring in the passion behind the team and also push teams towards better performance

  • POSTED BY mohamedamin on | May 3, 2011, 13:34 GMT

    finally...somebody call on hunte and halaire to resign.......these 2 guys think they running a business....bt this is cricket..cricket is not business

  • POSTED BY bigwonder on | May 3, 2011, 13:33 GMT

    Well said. It is not few players leading to failure but the complacency that has sunk in which needs to be revived.

  • POSTED BY Pteris on | May 3, 2011, 13:25 GMT

    There are too many chiefs in Caribbean politics and the same applies to cricket in the West Indies. The Board consists of reps of all the territorial boards rather than the best cricket minds. It hasn't worked for a long time and needs to change.

  • POSTED BY wenty on | May 3, 2011, 13:24 GMT

    I believe i should be President of the WICB, i could bring the necessary changes

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 13:20 GMT

    Yep I couldn't have said it any better.

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  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 13:20 GMT

    Yep I couldn't have said it any better.

  • POSTED BY wenty on | May 3, 2011, 13:24 GMT

    I believe i should be President of the WICB, i could bring the necessary changes

  • POSTED BY Pteris on | May 3, 2011, 13:25 GMT

    There are too many chiefs in Caribbean politics and the same applies to cricket in the West Indies. The Board consists of reps of all the territorial boards rather than the best cricket minds. It hasn't worked for a long time and needs to change.

  • POSTED BY bigwonder on | May 3, 2011, 13:33 GMT

    Well said. It is not few players leading to failure but the complacency that has sunk in which needs to be revived.

  • POSTED BY mohamedamin on | May 3, 2011, 13:34 GMT

    finally...somebody call on hunte and halaire to resign.......these 2 guys think they running a business....bt this is cricket..cricket is not business

  • POSTED BY on | May 3, 2011, 13:36 GMT

    Well the problem with West Indies cricket is that now people do not feel an attachment to the name West Indies as for other sports they support their own countries. When WI was a force at that time it was seen as a Black Power taking on the whites and had massive popularity. Over this this feeling has gone which is simultaneous with decline of WI. The selectors in WICB represent their nation to push their players rather than pushing best players for WI In my opinion WI should be broken up into various teams:- Guyana, T&T, Jamaica, Barbados and a WI (Made of Windward and Leeward islands along with Invitation to any other Island in the area who want to join). This would definitely bring in the passion behind the team and also push teams towards better performance

  • POSTED BY CricketChat on | May 3, 2011, 13:37 GMT

    Words of true wisdom!. Why someone like Roberts with so much passion, proven champion for WI cricket is on the sidelines while mediocrity rules?. Involve the past greats in planning, coaching and unearthing new talent. That is the only way to go for WI team to be a force in world cricket.

  • POSTED BY rayinto on | May 3, 2011, 13:38 GMT

    Way to go Andy! Tell them like it is! This is what your bowling partners Michael Holding and Colin Croft and also Bishop were saying all along. Dr Hilaire & Dr Hunte have a poor strategy for West Indies cricket. They use shock value in promoting change does not work. Change is only good when it is for the better. They need to nurture and promote at the grassroots level and also show respect to the experienced talent we already have. Hillaire for example belittled out national under 16-crickets for example by making statements that half of them were illiterate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLNG9ccI220. This is not how you build confidence in our young talent. So yes, i agree, we need a CEO who understands people and cares about West indies Cricket, and does not promote his own agenda. Any, What are your thoughts on Sammy's inclusion ? Should we continue with a playing position called captain?

  • POSTED BY TestIP on | May 3, 2011, 13:42 GMT

    FINALLY! Well said Sir! Unless the entire WICB is changed the WI cricket is not going anywhere. These guys are selfish and has no clue to manage the team in the correct manner for them to be competitive. The keep on selecting the same old guys who cannot play causing the team to fail time after time. All the good talents are hidden or left undeveloped. Taylor is a good bowler, roach is a good bowler but there is no guidance for them. Similarly you have Pollard, Ramdin, Darren Bravo and Lindi simmons who can bat but there is no guidance. As soon as the fail one match the get drop and replace by idiots. Darren samrry should be SACKED as well as this dude cannot bat nor bowl. Time for a change in the team WI should be Gayle, Simmons, Sarwan, Darren Bravo,D Bravo,Pollard, Ramdin,Bishoo, Taylor,Roach and Edwards. Try this and see what a difference we will make and how competitive we will be. SACK em fast and save the WI team before it is too late.

  • POSTED BY lugujaga on | May 3, 2011, 13:53 GMT

    Andy Roberts is a man who don't say much but when he does say something, it makes a lot of sense. This man has the best interest of West Indies cricket at heart and he has been on the inside and the outside of the West Indies cricket setup- both as an administrator and a great player. The WICB and players are lucky that they are getting premium advice for free; they better use it before they have to pay a so-called consultant to come and tell them the same thing for big wasted buck$.