West Indies news June 23, 2011

WICB offers to meet with Gayle to end standoff

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The West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) has written to Chris Gayle, stating it remains available to meet and resolve the latest impasse over his exclusion from the national team. Gayle wasn't picked for the series against India owing to differences with the board, including over a widely-publicised radio interview with KLAS Sports where he strongly criticised the WICB. The rift appeared to intensify after a heated meeting - which also involved West Indies Players' Association president Dinanath Ramnarine - on June 14 with the board, but both parties have since expressed a willingness to reconcile.

In his letter to Gayle - a copy of which is with ESPNcricinfo - the WICB chief executive Ernest Hilaire wrote that the June 14 meeting failed as "the discussions were repeatedly diverted to peripheral issues instead of being focussed on finding a constructive solution to the matter before us".

Hilaire offered to meet with Gayle again. "However, the Board does recognise your contributions to West Indies cricket and the value which you bring to a West Indies team; and remains available to meet with you, should you be willing to do so, so that we can bring some resolution to this matter. We await your response to discuss a mutually acceptable way forward."

This follows a conciliatory approach taken by the WIPA, as expressed by its vice-president Wavell Hinds to ESPNcricinfo. "He [Gayle] is prepared to answer the charges as honestly as he can and if there is a need to say sorry, I think he will say sorry," Hinds had told ESPNcricinfo. "Where he feels firm and has strong substance to back up his claims he will stand by them. If there are claims he has made where he has been a little excessive he is prepared to put his hand up and say sorry."

However, the board still sought an apology from Ramnarine for his alleged misbehaviour during the meeting on June 14. It also suggested the WIPA, in the event that an apology wasn't forthcoming, put forward another representative to engage with the board. "WIPA should either facilitate an apology to the CEO from Ramnarine, together with an "assurance/undertaking that he will not engage in any physical or verbal threats during meetings with representatives of the West Indies Cricket Board or identify alternative WIPA representatives to engage in meetings with the WICB," the board said in a press release.

The board has already made it clear its differences with Gayle extend beyond his KLAS Sports interview. "The WICB team has outlined to Gayle that the board has had issues historically in communicating with him and establishing a productive working relationship," the board said. "The issues include his social media announcements that he was taking a break from the game, that the Sri Lanka tour had been cancelled, among others. He demonstrated an unwillingness to engage the Board. This pattern of behaviour culminated with his widely-publicised interview on KLAS radio in Jamaica."

Sriram Veera is a staff writer at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on June 26, 2011, 17:01 GMT

    honorjr's comments epitomizes the illogical thinking of the WICB and selectors . For example, Bishoo who has been the extremly impressive against Pakistan and India is being criticized. Then there is a suggestion for Shillingford to come in but at whose expense? Maybe honorjr wants the entire team made up of "small island" players

  • radar007 on June 25, 2011, 18:28 GMT

    It's not too late to add Chris Gayle and Ramdin to the side. Will you strengthen it after WI has lost the series? Then it makes nonsense. Once again, your Board crew is disappointing the WI cricket fans.

    Comm'n Julian Hunte, act in a responsible way and strengthen the WI batting line-up. Do you care about WI fans?

    Thx............Radar.

  • on June 25, 2011, 18:13 GMT

    Disciplinary matters should be settled but a disciplinary board, not the person who Gayle alleges tried to bully him into signing a contract without union representation. Hilaire, Hunte, Otis and Ramnarine should step aside and allow an independent disciplinary board to mediate between WICB and Gayle and his lawyer and WIPA representative. This will remove any previous bias and hopefully will see WI present a stronger challenge for India.

  • honorejr on June 25, 2011, 13:56 GMT

    West Indies cricket needs Shillingford back on the team..why does everybody want sammy's neck, however, nash,sarwan, keep getting out with no contribution..bravo keeps dropping cathes, bishoo refuses to bowl a flipper and keeps being very predictable. i even read a comment sammy should be drop even thought he keeps taking wickets, he just isnt threatening enough. was pollock??(SA)with pace?? bring back the old failures who disappear,when IPL comes around, or just go out and fail everytime the team needs someone to step up..make your pick. i mean, west indies were doing soooo well and winning so many games when gayle was team captain right..

  • jadi501 on June 25, 2011, 11:28 GMT

    Good to listen . Wicb must take positive steps to rebuilt team,image and fear of Wi team over other teams.

    My 11 is Gayle (Cpt) , Barath , Simmons , Bravo ,Sarwan , Samules , Ramdin ,Russel/Bravo/Pollarad ,Bishoo/Benn , edwards , Taylor.

  • on June 25, 2011, 4:15 GMT

    As far as i am concern this matter with Gayle is taking much to long to settle, i blame both sides for that. I call on mr Julian Hunte as president of the WICBC to take the responsibility to bring an end to this matter and immediately re-enstate Gayle on the WI team. You should not allow the CEO to deal with this matter for all what has been said and done it would appear as though there is some bad blood between the CEO and Gayle in doing so please keep the WIPA president out of that Loosing the first test vs India tells us that our bowling is good and our batting is crap Sars and Nash are on the team by reputation we drop Devon Smith because he had a problem playing the slow bowlers Nash and Sars both have a big problem in playing both quick and slow bowling they are not serving any purpose they both should go and make way for Gayle and Samuels My team for the 2nd test will be Gayle Barrat Simmons Darren Bravo Chive Samuel Bore Sammy capt. Rampaul Edwards Bishoo K Edwards th man

  • satspeare on June 25, 2011, 1:31 GMT

    @Whitney Peterkin - Thanks - never thought anyone read any of my posts. So here's the team in batting order for the 2nd test -and sure one we can win with : 1 Simmons 2 Barath 3 Gayle 4 Chanderpaul 5 Sarwan (captain) 6 Darren Bravo 7 Roach 8 Ramdin 9 Rampaul 10 Edwards 11 Taylor. I would have Bishoo sit out this Barbadoes test. This means that Gayle and maybe Sarwan will have to bowl a little but with four pacemen together that may not be even needed. Just imagine the physological effect of playing Taylor, Edwards, Roach and Rampaul in the same line up!! Really hate to suggest leaving out Bishoo, especially after the way he batted towards the end of the first test but there is no other way for our 4 best fast bowlers to play in the same game. This team will win the series - but can we just start with the next match??

  • prnthv on June 24, 2011, 19:41 GMT

    im an indian but i can give a suggestion if u ppl accept..... is sammy really necessary in tests? y cant they try captiancy with dareen bravo(a good talent young player, he vl be emerging soon),he could be surprise package like dhoni in indian team............. i think bcause of sammy the team is unbalanced..... and also gayle is really necessary for this team..... and bring one new coach frm other countries like SA,IND,NZ but nt AUS or ENG(cunning countries) so that they can know new things

  • radar007 on June 24, 2011, 17:19 GMT

    SECOND TEST - June 23/11. WI lost the 1st Test Match yesterday primarily due to the "Captain's regulation dropped catch" (Dravid at 6 runs in the second innings). Sammy's positive contributions did not balance out with this "Game Changing Dropped Catch" which resulted in Dravid making full use of this opportunity and made over another chanceless hundred runs. For WI to regroup, the Selectors/Board should hide their pride, and add Chris Gayle (once fit) and Dinesh Ramdin to the next Test squad in place of the Vice Captain and Carlton Baugh. Also think about Samuels and Pollard to be back. Bring back some decency to WI cricket which has been in the doldrums since the days of Clive Lloyd/Viv Richards/Brian Lara. Due to their inconsiderate stance in dropping experienced Players in such a ruthless/carefree way, they are disappointing West Indian fans especially those who wanted to visit the Caribbean to see the One day series vs. India.

  • on June 24, 2011, 15:02 GMT

    I certainly agree with the comments made by satspeare my only addition to that team is another strike bowler probably a Taylor. Folks remember the days when we were hoping and praying for Taylor and Edwards to be fit again to partner Roach? Well lets play all three of them ,Rampaul ,Bishoo, a keeper, Gale, Barath, Chandrapaul, Sarwan and one of the Bravos. With a strong bowling line up the batsmen will have less runs to make (they are not making much in any case). And we have some bowlers who can be considered lower order batsmen and not tailenders so that should not b a difficult thing to do.

  • on June 26, 2011, 17:01 GMT

    honorjr's comments epitomizes the illogical thinking of the WICB and selectors . For example, Bishoo who has been the extremly impressive against Pakistan and India is being criticized. Then there is a suggestion for Shillingford to come in but at whose expense? Maybe honorjr wants the entire team made up of "small island" players

  • radar007 on June 25, 2011, 18:28 GMT

    It's not too late to add Chris Gayle and Ramdin to the side. Will you strengthen it after WI has lost the series? Then it makes nonsense. Once again, your Board crew is disappointing the WI cricket fans.

    Comm'n Julian Hunte, act in a responsible way and strengthen the WI batting line-up. Do you care about WI fans?

    Thx............Radar.

  • on June 25, 2011, 18:13 GMT

    Disciplinary matters should be settled but a disciplinary board, not the person who Gayle alleges tried to bully him into signing a contract without union representation. Hilaire, Hunte, Otis and Ramnarine should step aside and allow an independent disciplinary board to mediate between WICB and Gayle and his lawyer and WIPA representative. This will remove any previous bias and hopefully will see WI present a stronger challenge for India.

  • honorejr on June 25, 2011, 13:56 GMT

    West Indies cricket needs Shillingford back on the team..why does everybody want sammy's neck, however, nash,sarwan, keep getting out with no contribution..bravo keeps dropping cathes, bishoo refuses to bowl a flipper and keeps being very predictable. i even read a comment sammy should be drop even thought he keeps taking wickets, he just isnt threatening enough. was pollock??(SA)with pace?? bring back the old failures who disappear,when IPL comes around, or just go out and fail everytime the team needs someone to step up..make your pick. i mean, west indies were doing soooo well and winning so many games when gayle was team captain right..

  • jadi501 on June 25, 2011, 11:28 GMT

    Good to listen . Wicb must take positive steps to rebuilt team,image and fear of Wi team over other teams.

    My 11 is Gayle (Cpt) , Barath , Simmons , Bravo ,Sarwan , Samules , Ramdin ,Russel/Bravo/Pollarad ,Bishoo/Benn , edwards , Taylor.

  • on June 25, 2011, 4:15 GMT

    As far as i am concern this matter with Gayle is taking much to long to settle, i blame both sides for that. I call on mr Julian Hunte as president of the WICBC to take the responsibility to bring an end to this matter and immediately re-enstate Gayle on the WI team. You should not allow the CEO to deal with this matter for all what has been said and done it would appear as though there is some bad blood between the CEO and Gayle in doing so please keep the WIPA president out of that Loosing the first test vs India tells us that our bowling is good and our batting is crap Sars and Nash are on the team by reputation we drop Devon Smith because he had a problem playing the slow bowlers Nash and Sars both have a big problem in playing both quick and slow bowling they are not serving any purpose they both should go and make way for Gayle and Samuels My team for the 2nd test will be Gayle Barrat Simmons Darren Bravo Chive Samuel Bore Sammy capt. Rampaul Edwards Bishoo K Edwards th man

  • satspeare on June 25, 2011, 1:31 GMT

    @Whitney Peterkin - Thanks - never thought anyone read any of my posts. So here's the team in batting order for the 2nd test -and sure one we can win with : 1 Simmons 2 Barath 3 Gayle 4 Chanderpaul 5 Sarwan (captain) 6 Darren Bravo 7 Roach 8 Ramdin 9 Rampaul 10 Edwards 11 Taylor. I would have Bishoo sit out this Barbadoes test. This means that Gayle and maybe Sarwan will have to bowl a little but with four pacemen together that may not be even needed. Just imagine the physological effect of playing Taylor, Edwards, Roach and Rampaul in the same line up!! Really hate to suggest leaving out Bishoo, especially after the way he batted towards the end of the first test but there is no other way for our 4 best fast bowlers to play in the same game. This team will win the series - but can we just start with the next match??

  • prnthv on June 24, 2011, 19:41 GMT

    im an indian but i can give a suggestion if u ppl accept..... is sammy really necessary in tests? y cant they try captiancy with dareen bravo(a good talent young player, he vl be emerging soon),he could be surprise package like dhoni in indian team............. i think bcause of sammy the team is unbalanced..... and also gayle is really necessary for this team..... and bring one new coach frm other countries like SA,IND,NZ but nt AUS or ENG(cunning countries) so that they can know new things

  • radar007 on June 24, 2011, 17:19 GMT

    SECOND TEST - June 23/11. WI lost the 1st Test Match yesterday primarily due to the "Captain's regulation dropped catch" (Dravid at 6 runs in the second innings). Sammy's positive contributions did not balance out with this "Game Changing Dropped Catch" which resulted in Dravid making full use of this opportunity and made over another chanceless hundred runs. For WI to regroup, the Selectors/Board should hide their pride, and add Chris Gayle (once fit) and Dinesh Ramdin to the next Test squad in place of the Vice Captain and Carlton Baugh. Also think about Samuels and Pollard to be back. Bring back some decency to WI cricket which has been in the doldrums since the days of Clive Lloyd/Viv Richards/Brian Lara. Due to their inconsiderate stance in dropping experienced Players in such a ruthless/carefree way, they are disappointing West Indian fans especially those who wanted to visit the Caribbean to see the One day series vs. India.

  • on June 24, 2011, 15:02 GMT

    I certainly agree with the comments made by satspeare my only addition to that team is another strike bowler probably a Taylor. Folks remember the days when we were hoping and praying for Taylor and Edwards to be fit again to partner Roach? Well lets play all three of them ,Rampaul ,Bishoo, a keeper, Gale, Barath, Chandrapaul, Sarwan and one of the Bravos. With a strong bowling line up the batsmen will have less runs to make (they are not making much in any case). And we have some bowlers who can be considered lower order batsmen and not tailenders so that should not b a difficult thing to do.

  • boris6491 on June 24, 2011, 10:19 GMT

    They've finally realised that 1) He carries the team and 2) He brings people to grounds. Or at least I hope they have...

  • on June 24, 2011, 9:58 GMT

    i think west indies should play 10 bowlers and a wicket keeper. at leat we would have a better chance of winning. I have never seen so many DOT balls in a ODI, it is ridiculous. If chris gayle and simmons opens the batting that would be the best thing for WI. chanderpaul go 3rd down with barath at 4 followed by sarwan..we need batsmen who can dominate the bowling and at the same time rotate the strike. enough pressure isnt being put on our opponent bowlers. even in a test match u have to be agressive, if ur not you have to learn to rotate the strike, pick the gaps...our batsmen in WI are just horrible at picking gaps...

  • on June 24, 2011, 4:47 GMT

    WICB tried to exercise their power against Gayle and look what happened - they lost the first test to India as well the the ODI series. They were so close to winning the first test and Gayle (their best player and one of the best opening batsmen in the world) would have made the difference. Cricket administrators have to realise that the game does not revolve around them. Australia got rid of Symonds and hence threw away the world cup which they won 3 times in a row prior. Windies are doing the same with Gayle and Pakistan are risking the same with Afridi. All Gayle ever did to upset them was exercise his right of freedom of speech and look at the consequences her is paying

  • Randy_Wilson on June 24, 2011, 4:07 GMT

    Also i am going to point out this now. Everyone Hate Sammy and say he dont deserved to be in West Indies. The problem is The Position Sammy put himself in he is playing as a Bowler and NOT A BATSMAN. Sammy against Sri Lanka, Pakistan and India TEST Match Bowling S.L 1st TEST (0-41/ 0-14), 2 TEST (2-80/ 0-16). Pakistan 1 TEST (2-18/ 5- 29) 2 TEST (2-70 / 1-64) India 1 TEST (0-42 / 4-52) Getting Wicket nearly every Match.

    Ok Ok So what Sammy Avg Compare to the Rest of West Indies Bowler. Since Alot of Us goes and talk about Sammy avg is Crappy. so whats his Avg? BOWLING AVG, not BATTING. Sammy Avg 27.27. (14 Matches) Roach Avg 29.90 (12 Matches) Rampal Avg: 40.89 (8 Matches) Edwards Avg 38.87 (44matches) Dywane Bravo 39.83 (40 Matches) S Benn Avg: 41.41 ( 17 Matches) SO if we talk about Avg. in bowling Sammy Avg better than Everyone. All this info is From Cricinfo player stats. Beside Edwards and Bravo who player 25+ more test than Sammy the avg of them still more than Sammy.

  • on June 24, 2011, 4:03 GMT

    @ Kashyap Uttara.... Until the associate members begin to beat us consistently then u may have a point but this is not the case. Every team has it's cycle but we deserve to be a full member nation.

  • KSChhatlani on June 24, 2011, 3:57 GMT

    I believe that the WICB have to re-think over the team they have selected. They do have talented players but they lack experience. Experienced players like Chris Gayle and Dwanye Bravo are not availiable....As per my belief, Gayle should be bought back in the WI team as the captain and Sammy has the vice captain because Sammy has the tactics and Gayle has the attitude...About the one day team, I believe Sarwan should be out of the 1 day team because his pace is not that quick. It is good that Ind toured WI as it will be a big learning curve for the WI team. Why is Pollard not there in the test team?? I believe he requires more experience and time at the batting crease....He is an explosive batsmen.. Don't forget that even India were at this stage once upon a time....N India did bounce back...All the best WI!!! would love to see the same...in the spirit of the game...:)

  • Randy_Wilson on June 24, 2011, 3:48 GMT

    I am a big Fan of Gayle and I wish he can Play for West Indies Cricket,BUT the Question is. ask yall Self this.We Had A Team like Gayle,Sarwan,Chanderpaul,Nash,B Lara,F Edwards,J Taylor,Dywane Bravo,D Ramdin,S Benn.Why cant we get into the World Cup Semi Finals??? Why cant we Win Test Matches Consistent, why cant we win OD consistent? ALL of these Player had a Good Run in West Indies Cricket yet we have the same result, a West Indies Lost. West Indies Rank number 3 in the World before 1999 World cup. we had Top Player like Gayle,Sarwan,Lara,etc and West Indies started to Fall from 2000 and Today we are at number 8 - 9 in the ranking FAR away from number 7th. and now WICB decided to do something, and we lash out on them. BTW i agree the selector are picking the wrong 11 each Match. Example K Edward career is Ruin because of this. he is more a FC player than a OD player yet they played him in OD. So if we dont pick Gayle and Co why should we fuss,it the same old story withthem or without

  • MinusZero on June 24, 2011, 3:35 GMT

    Ready to talk now that they lost the first test. Seriously, get over the politics and just play cricket.

  • satspeare on June 24, 2011, 3:23 GMT

    People, please don't ask Simmons to keep wicket. This guy has a knee injury that keeps acting up and will be worsen with all the bending and crouching entailed in wicket-keeping. Solution has to be Ramdin to keep. Captaincy goes back to Sarwan. How in the world could the captaincy go to Samuels?? This is a guy back from being banned and someone suggest he be made captain? He should not even be in the team ever again but that not going to happen. Gayle comes back but does not open since Simmons and Barath seems to be a pair that could return us to the kind of opening stands of yesteryear.Simmons / Barath / Gayle / Chanderpaul / Sarwan (captain) / DR Bravo / Ramdin / Russel / Rampaul / Roach or Edwards / Bishoo. There seems to be so much going on behind the scenes. Just look at the way Sarwan plays these days, also Chanders. Nash used to be more reliable too. Seems to me that Gibson needs to go or stop directing the batsmen and start advising them - better yet leave that now to Haynes.

  • freshprince69 on June 24, 2011, 2:05 GMT

    i happy that the wicb is still considering bargaining with gayle...i hope they sort their problems out before they play against australia....here is my teams if availabily of player is good TEST: 1.Gayle, 2.Barath, 3.Sarwan, 4.D.M Bravo, 5.Chanderpaul, 6.D.J Bravo, 7.Baugh, 8.Sammy, 9.Rampaul, 10.Bishoo, 11.Edwards, Roach, Russel, Samuels

    O.D.I and T20: 1.Gayle, 2.Simmons, 3.Sarwan, 4.D.M Bravo, 5.Pollard, 6.D.J Bravo, 7.Baugh, 8.Sammy, 9.Bishoo, 10.Roach, 11.Edwards, Rampaul, Kirk Edwards, Russel

  • GTCricketer on June 24, 2011, 2:04 GMT

    West-Indies have alot to deal with.. but first and foremost.. before worrying about lineup and all that..1) FIRE THE COACH! and 2) RELIEVE SAMMY OF CAPTAINCY.. GIVE GAYLE THAT STATUS ON HIS ENTRY BACK INTO THE TEAM. As for the lineup.. CARLTON BAUGH AND SAMMY NEEDS TO GO Denish Ramdin is a much better wk in general and sammy is taking up a spot that can be used for Russel.. That being said.. West-Indies need a major turnaround and the need it NOW!

  • mahabesh on June 24, 2011, 0:54 GMT

    The comments made by Neil Howell are excellent! However, I woud replace Shiv with Simmons. We badly need the young players to improve and with Sarwan, Gatle around, the young playrts will have more confidence. I do not understand how WI run rate was so low and Ind was so high. Runs are what is required to win a match. Look how Sammy and Rampaul gave Ind a scare! If you are a professional you need to get runs on the board not poke almost every delivery like Shiv and nash, GET THE SINGLES! Pity WI will get a white wash

  • Randy_Wilson on June 24, 2011, 0:44 GMT

    @ Rasaldinho Good Squad there and i totally agree with you Putting Simmon as a Keeper. as a Captain, Well not sure, to me it may effect his Batting. But we could of take a Chance. since we really need another Quick Bowler because don't mine Sammy is getting 4 wickets, it's not enough to Scary any Team. We need at least 3 - 4 Fast Bowler One time. Edwards, Roach, Russel and Rampal To Lead the attack with Taylor as a back up. depend on the timing. With 2 Spinner in the Team Bishoo and Martin also according to how they will pic one of them need to be in the Team. for Test I would of try two more batsmen in between, K Edwards and Young Brathwaite. We also got one more alrounder Who demolised alot of good Team including my home Team Barbados, Carlos BRathwaite He can Bat Very well, he even open Batting and can Bowl. he just need to improve more. So the Future looks Bright for West Indies, Only problem is the Selectors, NEED TO IMPROVE.

  • on June 24, 2011, 0:27 GMT

    It is good to see the WICB reaching out to Gayle after the damage they along with the selectors have inflicted on West Indies cricket. If there is a resolution a real challenge will be for Gayle to play under Darren Sammy as captain. It is difficult for any senior WI player to have any respect for a less than average performer like Sammy. Captains of international teams are stars in their own right and it is easy for them to earn the respect of their team.

  • Rasaldinho on June 23, 2011, 23:13 GMT

    This should be squads. Considering Gayle's return, Simmons as Cpt & WK, Bravo & Pollard unavailability for 20-20's and J. Taylor unavailability for all forms of selection because of restrictions by WICB.

    Test Squad should be: Gayle, Barrath, Simmons (WK) (Cptn), Sarwan, DM. Bravo, Samuels, Chanderpaul, Russell, Rampaul, Bishoo, Edwards.

    ODI Squad: Gayle, Barrath, Simmons (WK) (Cptn), DM. Bravo, Samuels, DJ. Bravo, Pollard, Russel, Rampaul, Bishoo, Edwards.

    20-20 Squad: Gayle, Barrath, DM. Bravo, Samuels, Simmons (WK) (Cptn), Sammy, Russel, Rampaul, Bishoo, Edwards, Roach.

  • on June 23, 2011, 22:40 GMT

    I know WI were once a great team and there is a lot of nostalgia about them. But why should promising associates like Ireland suffer second class treatment at the hands of the ICC and be given fewer opportunities while teams like WI still be given full membership privileges when they seem to be at point of n return?

  • on June 23, 2011, 22:10 GMT

    Geee.....give Gayle a break...by xcluding him the team is sufferin from his lost and tryin to adjust to this....indeed he jis one of the best openin batsman in the world...any time would do gr8 jus to hav him on their team....as for a coach...definitely we need a new one....FAST

  • Rasaldinho on June 23, 2011, 21:48 GMT

    firstly.. the WICB needs to take a full assessment of what's going on in our cricket. it's obvious that we have good enough players in and around the team to compete better on an international level... first of all, whatever the issue is with Gayle (he's the 1 and only superstar in the team) should be resolved, to allow him to be selected. Then the captaincy should be looked at, not saying Sammy should be axed from the team totally, but he should be in and around the team as a replacement. He has no place in a first choice 11. unless it's 20-20 (just because Bravo and Pollard can't be selected). The captain should be someone who's consistent enough and someone who can lead from the front (Not sure who, either btwn Rampaul, Simmons or Samuels) Then there is the problem with wicket-keeper batsman, frankly, there aren't any in the west indies good enough, so work on Simmons technique, while still try to elp improve his batting so there won't be a problem of focusing on only 1..

  • WestIndies1987 on June 23, 2011, 21:11 GMT

    WI need Gayle back! He may not win us the Test match but he could contribute better than RUBBISH like Nash,Sammy etc...

  • Rony1974 on June 23, 2011, 21:02 GMT

    EXPERIENCED CAPTAIN IS THE KEY TO SUCESS FOR WEST INDIES TEAM AND THATS ONLY CHRIS GAYLE . SAMMY SHOULD BE SACKED AND REPLACED BY GAYLE FOR THE PLAYERS TO PERFORM . ALOT OF PLAYERS ARE NOT HAPPY WITH SAMMYS PERFORMANCE AND THE WAY HE LEADS THE TEAM . NASH IS A WASTE OF TIME .HE NEEDS TO PLAY MORE DOMESTIC CRICKET TO PLAY AGAINST INTERNATIONAL TEAMS . I HOPE TO SEE GAYLE LAEDING THE TEAM IN THE 2ND TEST MATCH .

  • xxxneilxxx on June 23, 2011, 20:31 GMT

    the team needs sum serious restructuring in order just to compete with india...take a look at the difference between india and west indies....india batting fail but there is a guy to stand up and make runs...saw that in the first innings with harbajan and raina and the second with dravid... my team would be sumthing like this..Gayle..Barath..Sarwan..Samuels(cpt)..Bravo..Chanderpaul..Ramdin..Russel Edwards..Rampaul/Roach and Bishoo... ODI Side should be sumthing like this Gayle,Simmons,Bravo,Sarwan,Samuels(cpt),Bravo snr.,Pollard,Ramdin,Russel,Edwards,Bishoo.

  • on June 23, 2011, 20:21 GMT

    West Indies best team selection 11 from available players is as follows in batting order: Gayle, Barath, Sarwan, Darren Bravo, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, Dwayne Bravo (Captain), Dinesh Ramdin (Vice Captain/wkt), Jerome Taylor, Sulimen Benn, Kemar Roach and Fidel Edwards! Others to be included in a squad to ensure competition are Samuels, Nash, Bishoo, Russell, Sammy, Rampaul, Simmonds, and Baugh. Benn is proven at Test level and although Bishoo seems a good prospect I am concerned that there is too much pressure being put on him too early. He should continue to learn his trade in the limited over format at the expense of Benn. Nash is not scoring runs and his role in the team is similar to Chanderpaul. We do not need both of them. Young Darren Bravo and Simmonds should be competing for the same role in team or against Sarwan. Sammy should be retained as the limited overs team captain only and included in the Test team when the situation demands. Russell should compete with Dwayne Bravo.

  • xxxneilxxx on June 23, 2011, 19:55 GMT

    think gayle should play considering the defeat in the first test...really poor batting and lack of experience...drop catches cost them 106 runs while dravid was batting cos he was dropped on 6 by sammy...baugh is a disappointment...surely there must be a better wk batsman than him in the caribbean...nash is short of runs...poor shot selections by sarwan...barath and bravo are gettin there...shiv is suffering from a poor run of form...the bowlers are ok...not good but just ok...how can technically correct batsmen not score runs in test match when the whole field is in...time at the crease is important in tests yes but you need to score frequently...thats why players like tendulkar dravid and sehwag are so gd...they make use of the infield and find the gaps frequently....why leave a half volley outisde off when you can place it in a gap and get 4?...come on!!! West Indies batsmen go out and are afraid to play basic cricket cos they think test match require u to block and leave 100 balls.

  • NCassie on June 23, 2011, 19:48 GMT

    The curent Captain Sammy & Vice Captain Nash are not performing game after game and the time has come to let them GO!. Please drop them and don't forget to send Baugh on that same filght too, CARLTON BAUGH NEEDS TO BE DROPPED IMMEDIATELY. Make way for Russel, Gayle and Ramdin, these three have what it takes to get good reults for WI. It's not too late fix up the Gayle matter before the next test and Call up Ramdin.

  • on June 23, 2011, 19:27 GMT

    West Indies will go bankrupt soon because no one is watching them !!!they have one world class batsman at present..three 50s in three test matches... Ireland, Scotland, Zimbabwe would all score more runs. West Indies need Gayle, because he is the only one worth watching... Chanderpaul and Bravo are good, Samuel"s has no idea about spin bowling... the others mostly look like club cricketers!!

  • on June 23, 2011, 19:24 GMT

    @Randy Wilson - U clearly have no idea what you're talking about. You're gonna ignore guys like Ramdin and make Simmons a specialist test keeper? What'll that do to his batting eh? And martin, braithwaite and K edwards in a test team ? You've got to be kidding me >_<. Sammy is useless....but i do get your point tho, you;re right, too many of them think only for personal milestones. IMO the team should be as follows : 1. Gayle 2. Barath 3. Simmons 4. Sarwan/D ganga (captain) 5. Chanderpaul 6.Darren Bravo/Nash 7.Dwayne bravo 8. Ramdin 9. Rampaul 10. Fidel edwards 11. Bishoo Ganga makes my XI purely because, if you're gonna pick Darren Sammy purely as a captain, then the criteria is "captaincy skills"- i think we can all agree that Darren Ganga is one of the best Captains in the region :s

  • on June 23, 2011, 19:24 GMT

    @ Randy_Wilson you say WI needs players like Sammy yet you want to make Simmonds captain & Gayle is not needed in the team yet he opening your test team . I think you are a dreamer. Everyone in the Caribbean has their own opinion of the solution to our cricket. WI cricket needs an thorough evaluation. Cricketers loving money and flashy life style has nothing to do with lack of performance. there needs to be a systematic approach to analyzing WI cricketing problem and implementing measure to develop our game. If am willing to undertake a study to assist players but then there is the issue of the board adopting.

  • on June 23, 2011, 18:44 GMT

    I think that the WI Team need to be restructured in order to be more balanced. The Captain is a good bowler but he and the Vice-captain should make way for Samuels and Roach,Taylor or Russel.

  • arvnd on June 23, 2011, 18:37 GMT

    somebody pass this message of mine to the WICB...u can make a team that comprises of...gayle,barath,bavo,chanderpaul,samuels,simmons(WK),russell,rampaul,bishoo,fidel,roach my heart goes to sammy....he gives is best, but that isn't good enough. Sarwan and Nash, don't really know why they are in the team. Hope to see WI regain its golden era soon...

  • WTEH on June 23, 2011, 18:35 GMT

    Can't you guys see that this is the time. Time to stand down. Selection committe, board, coach, captain, what are you guys waiting for. WI have a proud history on cricket, pls don't ruin it further. Let somebody else handle this and see. It should be obvious to you, that you guys cannot do the job. So quit now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Randy_Wilson on June 23, 2011, 17:28 GMT

    West Indies Dont Need Gayle, it need Unity. Even with Gayle in West Indies didn't make us a Winning Team. We need talented Player with the Metality like Sammy. Sammy is a Great Loyal person, but his ability is what he Lacks alot. West Indies Ned Player who is Loyal to West Indies Cricket and Don't be greedy for Money, Money will come. My personally View with a Winning Team all they need is to have confidence in them self and play For us the people of the West Indies. TEST TEAM. My Openers: 1st C Gayle / K Edwards or Brathwaite 2nd Barath / K Edwards or Brathwaite (incase Gayle or Barath is Injured) 3th: Darren Bravo 4th: S Chanderpaul 5th: M Samuels 6th: L Simmons (Wkt) 7th: A Russel 8th: R Rampal 9th: K Roach 10th F Edwards / J Taylor 11th D Bishoo / A MArtin

    Te Captain, unfortunately I dont have a Captain for this side. I wouldnt Choose Gayle. I May go with Simmons as a young Captain but not sure if he is capable.

  • KTiwari on June 23, 2011, 17:20 GMT

    It seems that Ottis Gibson is in the mould of Greg Chappel and he is causing similar issues. If he wants team to do well then Ottis needs to work with team not against them. He needs to earn seniors respect not dictate them. Probably Ottis worked with English for too long and forgot his own culture and roots.

  • Outswinging on June 23, 2011, 16:24 GMT

    rockdworldxi, dwayne Bravo quit the team and went back to Trinidad, that is not what you want from a captain. I agree that Gibson, Sarwan, Nash and Sammy should be gone. The team needs to be chosen from Gayle, Barath, Darren Bravo,Samuels, Chanderpaul, Russell, Simmons, a new wkt kpr, Bishoo, Martin, Taylor, Roach, Edwards, Rampaul

  • Outswinging on June 23, 2011, 15:55 GMT

    They'd better hurry up. The sorry WI is about to get another drubbing from an under-strength India. This Board has inflicted a damaging blow to WI cricket. need to get taylor and roach back into the team. While Sammy is a good person with tons of heart he should do the right thing and step down with honor.

  • Brucep on June 23, 2011, 15:53 GMT

    We really need some honest talking to each other by Chris & the WICB - with a good dose of humility on both sides. This has to be the way forward & not just in this case. The game needs it. Ramnarine is a loose cannon who needs to be retired from negotiations. The team needs Chris' ability & experience to build for the future but he must keep in mind that his God-given ability must be used constructively. The WICB must try to treat players with respect at at all times.The recent treatment of Sarwan & Shiv leaves a bad taste.

  • getsetgopk on June 23, 2011, 15:50 GMT

    yea the IPL is over Gayle had to leave India as he's not an Indian and back in Westindies the WICB has nothing to do with him as he's seldomly available because money is first on his priority list west indies comes in second. So now Galye thinking I dont wana be remembered as a player who played just for money so now he agreed to apologize but wait a minute isn't all this circus start over next year once again when IPL comes back?

  • on June 23, 2011, 14:46 GMT

    don't spoil the opportunity.

  • on June 23, 2011, 13:59 GMT

    I will say this, OTIS GIBSON is the wrong coach for West Indies. He does not have the respect of the senior players and that can only be disastrous for WI cricket. I believe we can work with Hilaire. Reading from his letter to GAYLE, I detect signs of his willingness to mollify his ego and work with GAYLE for the good of WI cricket. Why is MARLON SAMUEL left out of the test side? Why is SAMMY playing? CHANDERPAUL should retire. Does NASH really deserve a place in the team? RUSSELL should play in every WI side in all configurations of the game. Why can not these WI selectors identify the right team?

  • Stos on June 23, 2011, 13:54 GMT

    @Rama_krish: I think that it's more a problem of not really managing to get his eye by getting a few runs to start him off, and hence not showing his full ability.

  • on June 23, 2011, 13:50 GMT

    good job mr Hinds,problems can solve without going 4 a all out fight, hope mr gayle will learn from this, u can't have it ur way all the time,plz get it over and get back on the team, we need 2 see u playing again.

  • rockdworldxi on June 23, 2011, 13:38 GMT

    i cnt understand why dwayne bravo is not in the team and also a young talented bowler like jerome taylor. the process of selecting the west indies team is absolutely stupid. They need to build a team who can perform consistently with 7-8 players being regulars in test n odi team instead of dropping or resting there key players. why the hell have they made darren sammy the captain because of him being in the team west indies cnt play a 3rd genuine fast bowler. gayle should be back for the 2nd test.the team for the 2nd test should be gayle,barath,sarwan,darren bravo,chanderpaul,dwayne bravo,baugh,sammy,rampaul,edwards,bishoo. west indies should appoint dwayne bravo as the captain thinking abt the future and replace darren sammy with someone like jerome taylor

  • CricketChat on June 23, 2011, 12:51 GMT

    Hope Gayle grabs this opportunity from WICB to revive his int. career. He should realize he is not bigger the game or the institutions that run the game.

  • Silloh on June 23, 2011, 10:55 GMT

    WICB is certainly moving in the right direction under its new CEO. Obviously some compromise made on both sides and lessons can be learnt in moving forward. There must be rules and regulations which must be adhered to and such must be applied squarely and fairly and consistently.The younger players are watching.Its not only how we overcome our challenges, but also the process used in doing so that matters.

  • rama_krish on June 23, 2011, 10:28 GMT

    I am puzzled at the low scores posted by Sarwan in this test. Is he having a disagreement with the coach?

  • Stos on June 23, 2011, 9:40 GMT

    @Shawnsundar: Yes, that seems to be the problem. The Simmons-Barath pair up front looks very promising, and one which ought to be developed and grown for the future. They're probably not going to get the chance to do so at the international level if Gayle is brought in as an opener. Barath has looked solid during his last two innings, while Simmons is in good form, so I'm not sure that I would drop either of them from the opening position. If Gayle is going to be brought back, hopefully this dispute will have motivated him to fight for his place in the West Indies side rather than playing without much motivation in order to get an IPL spot, as otherwise I can't really see him being worth an opening spot. If he gained some discipline in the process, that would also be nice, as this is a growing team and needs a good mentality more than it needs immediate results.

  • on June 23, 2011, 9:25 GMT

    if your best player is saying something then it's better for the WICB to put egos aside and listen and try to implement the suggestions. watching Sarwan getting out yesterday clearly shows that he's not even the shadow of his past self and here we're talking of somebody who was once regarded as the next WI great. and what good is the WICB doing to the WI cricket by restricting Gayle to the spectators' stand and just letting him enjoy the games. looking at the present scenario there is no dearth of opportunities for a player like Gayle with so much 20-20 cricket going around but it's only his hunger for quality cricket that's inspiring him to join the WI team again. now the WICB must act fast and get Gayle and Dwayne Bravo back so that their talented but inexperienced lot like Barath, Simmons and Darren Bravo can also benefit playing with them. also bring legends like Walsh, Ambrose into coaching and administrative picture.

  • on June 23, 2011, 8:38 GMT

    its high time the windies board stop this fuss about gale and start playing him, the best team as to play next test, barath,galle,simmons,darren bravo, chanders,dwayne bravo,russel,sammy,bisho , martin,roach,edwards,rampaul , taylor , samuels and pollard this shud be the core 15 for sometime and the selectors shud place some faith and give time, they will do well in england as many are youngsters and smoothly the captaincy can be taken up by dwayne bravo. you must find place for dwayne &russel for the next test, replace nash and sarwan with samuels

  • on June 23, 2011, 8:36 GMT

    lol, after watching the crap batting by WI in the first test, WICB decided to swallow its pride and bring Gayle back!

  • PaddyRasta on June 23, 2011, 8:31 GMT

    @shawnsundar I still doubt he'll be back in time for the next test but I guess who he replaces will strongly depend on the outcome tomorrow. If Nash does not score, that would be 3 tests in a row, but if he does then who knows?

  • on June 23, 2011, 7:56 GMT

    about gayle..he jst good in 20 20....better play ipl and make some money....instead of taking a youngster place in WI team.......

  • Masud_BITK on June 23, 2011, 7:11 GMT

    Well done...good job by vice president..come down world for a bigger hits in ahead..It looks bad luck for India. He surely causes problems for Indian bowlers, if he is received an immediate call..Please fasten you seat belt..

  • shawnsundar on June 23, 2011, 5:50 GMT

    WIPA already won several cases against the WICB, yet they're still in charge. Hope Gayle gets back in for the second test, but the question is, who will he replace?

  • on June 23, 2011, 4:58 GMT

    we want to chris Gayle back in west indies cricket team at any apology..... he deserve cricket

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  • on June 23, 2011, 4:58 GMT

    we want to chris Gayle back in west indies cricket team at any apology..... he deserve cricket

  • shawnsundar on June 23, 2011, 5:50 GMT

    WIPA already won several cases against the WICB, yet they're still in charge. Hope Gayle gets back in for the second test, but the question is, who will he replace?

  • Masud_BITK on June 23, 2011, 7:11 GMT

    Well done...good job by vice president..come down world for a bigger hits in ahead..It looks bad luck for India. He surely causes problems for Indian bowlers, if he is received an immediate call..Please fasten you seat belt..

  • on June 23, 2011, 7:56 GMT

    about gayle..he jst good in 20 20....better play ipl and make some money....instead of taking a youngster place in WI team.......

  • PaddyRasta on June 23, 2011, 8:31 GMT

    @shawnsundar I still doubt he'll be back in time for the next test but I guess who he replaces will strongly depend on the outcome tomorrow. If Nash does not score, that would be 3 tests in a row, but if he does then who knows?

  • on June 23, 2011, 8:36 GMT

    lol, after watching the crap batting by WI in the first test, WICB decided to swallow its pride and bring Gayle back!

  • on June 23, 2011, 8:38 GMT

    its high time the windies board stop this fuss about gale and start playing him, the best team as to play next test, barath,galle,simmons,darren bravo, chanders,dwayne bravo,russel,sammy,bisho , martin,roach,edwards,rampaul , taylor , samuels and pollard this shud be the core 15 for sometime and the selectors shud place some faith and give time, they will do well in england as many are youngsters and smoothly the captaincy can be taken up by dwayne bravo. you must find place for dwayne &russel for the next test, replace nash and sarwan with samuels

  • on June 23, 2011, 9:25 GMT

    if your best player is saying something then it's better for the WICB to put egos aside and listen and try to implement the suggestions. watching Sarwan getting out yesterday clearly shows that he's not even the shadow of his past self and here we're talking of somebody who was once regarded as the next WI great. and what good is the WICB doing to the WI cricket by restricting Gayle to the spectators' stand and just letting him enjoy the games. looking at the present scenario there is no dearth of opportunities for a player like Gayle with so much 20-20 cricket going around but it's only his hunger for quality cricket that's inspiring him to join the WI team again. now the WICB must act fast and get Gayle and Dwayne Bravo back so that their talented but inexperienced lot like Barath, Simmons and Darren Bravo can also benefit playing with them. also bring legends like Walsh, Ambrose into coaching and administrative picture.

  • Stos on June 23, 2011, 9:40 GMT

    @Shawnsundar: Yes, that seems to be the problem. The Simmons-Barath pair up front looks very promising, and one which ought to be developed and grown for the future. They're probably not going to get the chance to do so at the international level if Gayle is brought in as an opener. Barath has looked solid during his last two innings, while Simmons is in good form, so I'm not sure that I would drop either of them from the opening position. If Gayle is going to be brought back, hopefully this dispute will have motivated him to fight for his place in the West Indies side rather than playing without much motivation in order to get an IPL spot, as otherwise I can't really see him being worth an opening spot. If he gained some discipline in the process, that would also be nice, as this is a growing team and needs a good mentality more than it needs immediate results.

  • rama_krish on June 23, 2011, 10:28 GMT

    I am puzzled at the low scores posted by Sarwan in this test. Is he having a disagreement with the coach?