April 29, 2012

Gibson keeps the faith

The West Indies coach does not expect extraordinary results in England, but he also doesn't expect his charges to embarrass him
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Ottis Gibson's first two years in the West Indies coaching hot seat have been as testing for him as the slow, spinning pitches of the Caribbean have been for the Australian batsmen.

There was public criticism by senior pro Shivnarine Chanderpaul to weather in 2011, constant sniping at his captain Darren Sammy to combat, and the tedious year-long Chris Gayle saga to endure. But Gibson seems to be getting through the rough spell.

"I'm on a three-year contract, so I always figure that by the end of my third year, I would have a team that is doing the things I expect the team to do in terms of winning matches," he says. "If you look at how we played in India and you look at how we played against Australia, I don't think we're far off from what we're trying to do."

What Gibson is trying to do is build a team, a tight unit, one that wins. As a former West Indies player, he knew the setup he would meet would not match the one he had left; that he would have to be starting from scratch almost, not near the top as he had been.

But Gibson has quietly gone about laying his foundation, winning over young players by motivating them through his straight talk, and, especially in the case of the bowlers, through his knowledge of what it would take to make them better.

"When I came, I had all these plans of how I would like the team to be structured, how I would like the team to develop, the shape of the team, and all that. A lot of the names that were in the team at the time aren't there. So when you look at the resources that we have and the way that we are playing, I'm very proud of the way this young, inexperienced team is fighting. We will go to England with that same fight."

The contest does not look an even one on paper. England, still hurting from a bruising winter in Asia, are a different prospect on their own turf. They beat India, who were coming off a series win in the West Indies, 4-0 at home, and retained the Ashes against the Australia side that has now beaten West Indies 2-0 in the Caribbean.

West Indies' bowling department is currently the strongest part of the edifice Gibson is trying to construct. But the batting is shaky, weakened by a lack of experience rather than a lack of skill. Adrian Barath, Kieran Powell, Kirk Edwards, Darren Bravo and Narsingh Deonarine, all set to go on their first Test tour to England, have played 52 Tests between them.

Gibson rates his side 6.5, at best 7, out of ten. "Obviously we know the shortcomings of the batting. But if we get the batting right, we will score quite highly and win matches."

It is not the performance against the Australians alone that has given Gibson hope. "Say the last six to 12 months, the way we played in India, we went to Bangladesh and won. We dominated India in two out of three Test matches. We weren't strong enough as a team just yet to finish them off, but you can see the signs of improvement. You can see the signs of belief starting to grow in the team."

But while Chanderpaul was, according to Gibson "unbelievable" against Australia, the travails of the top order do not portend a breakthrough summer, "simply because we've got players that haven't played in England before."

The young West Indians, however, have defied expectations already this year, twice in the shared Twenty20 and ODI series with Australia and in their dogged refusal to lose easily in the Tests.

The athletic, committed fielding, even when the chips were down, was symptomatic of a new spirit and discipline. Sammy's increasing willingness to attack, boldly declaring on Australia in Barbados and himself pushing for runs on the last day in Trinidad, was more evidence of a new ethos taking root.

"When you look at what we have been able to achieve against Australia, the amount of times we've dominated days' plays, which I don't suppose many people would have been expecting, the way that we've been able to bowl them out twice, the way that we've been able to get within 75 runs of that target [in Dominica] just shows the spirit in the team," Gibson says.

Sammy's boys will need all their gumption and then some when their English test begins. But Gibson believes in the investment West Indies cricket is making. "Those young inexperienced guys, we've shown belief in them, and they are giving a lot of effort. But some of them are learning on the job. Yes, they will make mistakes, and some of the mistakes are very obvious, but at the same time they are learning, and that's all you can ask of them. Hopefully, as they continue to learn and the team continues to grow, we believe that winning is not far away."

When his contract is up in ten months' time, Gibson expects that faith not to have been misplaced.

Garth Wattley is a writer with the Trinidad Express

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  • on May 2, 2012, 15:52 GMT

    There is some improvement in this WINDIES team,in the bowling & in the fielding;Yet they continue to let go of match winning chances. The batting is still too uncertain their inexperience shows at the top of the order.Carlton Baugh has been in enough matches to understand that he needs to come to the wicket and execute according to the situation at hand.The team is improving,Dwayne Bravo should,ve been able to command a play as a batting all rounder,alas he has concentrated on 20/20 cricket.Edwards seems to be a good prospect, Marlon Samuels should,ve been one of the mainstays in the team,but in hs last appearance for the WINDIES he was mediocre, lets hope for a better showing from him in England. Iwish them well.

  • dunger.bob on May 1, 2012, 5:10 GMT

    From my Aussie perspective all I can really add to this argument is what I have seen over the last few years. For a long time series against the West Indies were a bit too one sided to really get into. The WI players often looked disinterested and not really getting into it either. .. this time around it was different. This time there was some real intent from the players and the bowling and fielding looked more tuned into the game. .. I don't know and could be wrong, but I think there are definite signs of a West Indian comeback. .. having said that, its pretty rare for something like that to be ALL the result of just one mans effort. It usually takes a heap of guys working together, doesn't it?

  • on April 30, 2012, 18:05 GMT

    For some people Otis Gibson will be forever linked to the C. Gayle saga. So no matter what he has done or will do, some will crucify him nonetheless. From the time the FW trophy was lost in 94/95 the WI have struggled to compete against any opposition and have been in the doldrums for quite a long time. We forget SA 99, the dominance that Aus have have on WI up until the last series(recently ended), and the whitewashes from everyone under the sun (was a common occurence). The team is not a world beater but there are visible signs of improvement. Actually getting teams out. It was pointless having all the batsmen when we couldn't get anyone out. The WI went from Walsh and Ambrose to Dillan, Powell, F.Rose, R King(and others) and we were plastered all around the park whereas our batters were skittled out for less than nothing. In the last couple of years there has certainly been slight improvements.

  • on April 30, 2012, 16:33 GMT

    i say this about ten years ago i am going to say it for the last time w i cricket is not going no where with just the current system in the w i. if anyone can correct me do so, when w i were in their glory days all 15 men in the squads were playing good continuous cricket in england when finish the guys leave back to england to play and with those great players they help mold the rest who didn't go when they complete in the shell shield matches there is no doth there is talent in the w i but look on the rest of the world local cricket and compare them with w i local cricket how much team you see getting bowled out in a 4 days game in 2 1/2 days and under 100 runs there were time when we had hope in w i team not too long ago when gayle took over the team in england and beat england went to south africa and beat them then he get hurt so some of you has a very short memory if it wasn't for jealousy a lot of wi fans would see that these guys playing in the ipl it would help wi one day

  • on April 30, 2012, 16:27 GMT

    @ blackie maybe i am pessimistic but in response to your 5 points. 1- most matches that went till day 5 had @ least 1 day or 90 overs of play washed out or lost to bad light so @ best we play 4 days on average.

    2/3 We often get the top order out pretty easily before tailenders add in excess of 100 runs which cost us the match. Test cricket is about competing all 15 sessions. dominating days of a match & failing to finish the opposition is little to brag about. Its an indication of incompetence complacency lack of experience tactical awareness & killer instinct. A predator chasing his prey even if it always looks like it has the advantage will starve until it makes a kill.

    4 of All the young batsmen we have tried Only Bravo & Edwards look like they have a hope of excelling at the highest level of cricket. Powell, Brathwaite et al are not ready as yet. 5- The spinners were always here but we didnt play them. ppl like Miller take a bundle of wickets every year in 4 day series

  • KDoc on April 30, 2012, 13:03 GMT

    After changing so much Coaches and Captains, this WI unit is starting to show fight. I am still not totally convinced though, because if you take Shiv's score out of the Test scores, WI is still lacking. Even the bowlers are not as convincing. But I am seeing improvements.

  • on April 30, 2012, 12:57 GMT

    The West Indies need to make a mental break from their glorious past. They need to think and work like Sri Lanka did in '94-95, when they began their meteoric rise for the 1996 World Cup. They can't keep looking at the glory days of Lloyd & Co. because they simply haven't had those kind of players - not physically nor mentally - for 15 years now. There is absolutely nothing in common with that West Indies. They have smaller craftsmen who need to become more effective, match-winning heroes like Jayasuriya, Kaluwitharana and Aravinda de Silva. Fidel Edwards and Kemar Roach need to bowl like Chaminda Vaas, and Shillingford and Bishoo need to be half as effective as Murali. To achieve this, they need either an Australian or South African coach who has produced results, not a West Indian from the deflating '90s himself. They don't just need discipline - they need a new mould.

  • CricketMaan on April 30, 2012, 12:27 GMT

    Sports is all about winners and winning, feeling good in a loss is just an excuse Windies, Bangla and Kiwis will be the first to drop Test cricket from thier calendar, they simply cannot win or afford it. Its time that these teams just focus on short version. India is another who might opt out of Test cricket though not in immediate future but as time goes by. that will leave only England, Aus and to some extent SA playing Tests.

  • ste13 on April 30, 2012, 11:14 GMT

    OK, WI lost against Aus, but they took all 20 wickets and defeat was the the top order to blame. In ODI and T20 it was honours even. For me it is evident that there is no way back, this team is making progress. And no place for Gayle the Entertainer. Although he can sparkle in 20/20, he is no longer test level, typical flat track bully. Pitches like the last series vs Aus and he would be out after less than 30 balls in each innings.

  • on April 30, 2012, 6:42 GMT

    A far fetched article Garth. Which team did Gibson leave as a player? The one that was beaten by South Africa in all but one match in 1998/99? The one he distanced himself from, choosing to put his get up in the dressing room? The one that he could not make? Garth, you must think West Indies fans have short memories. We remember Gibson, an in disciplined, selfish player. Secondly, beating Bangladesh is an accomplishment? The team won a Test against SA in SA under Gayle, and held NZ to a draw in NZ. It beat England at home under Gayle. Don't try to sell us the team is turning around under Gibson and Sammy. Yuh must b feel we chupid. Gibson himself admits to reshaping a team who would be his lackeys...take Shiv out (the same man he wanted to dump) and what would be the results. Watch it now Garth.

  • on May 2, 2012, 15:52 GMT

    There is some improvement in this WINDIES team,in the bowling & in the fielding;Yet they continue to let go of match winning chances. The batting is still too uncertain their inexperience shows at the top of the order.Carlton Baugh has been in enough matches to understand that he needs to come to the wicket and execute according to the situation at hand.The team is improving,Dwayne Bravo should,ve been able to command a play as a batting all rounder,alas he has concentrated on 20/20 cricket.Edwards seems to be a good prospect, Marlon Samuels should,ve been one of the mainstays in the team,but in hs last appearance for the WINDIES he was mediocre, lets hope for a better showing from him in England. Iwish them well.

  • dunger.bob on May 1, 2012, 5:10 GMT

    From my Aussie perspective all I can really add to this argument is what I have seen over the last few years. For a long time series against the West Indies were a bit too one sided to really get into. The WI players often looked disinterested and not really getting into it either. .. this time around it was different. This time there was some real intent from the players and the bowling and fielding looked more tuned into the game. .. I don't know and could be wrong, but I think there are definite signs of a West Indian comeback. .. having said that, its pretty rare for something like that to be ALL the result of just one mans effort. It usually takes a heap of guys working together, doesn't it?

  • on April 30, 2012, 18:05 GMT

    For some people Otis Gibson will be forever linked to the C. Gayle saga. So no matter what he has done or will do, some will crucify him nonetheless. From the time the FW trophy was lost in 94/95 the WI have struggled to compete against any opposition and have been in the doldrums for quite a long time. We forget SA 99, the dominance that Aus have have on WI up until the last series(recently ended), and the whitewashes from everyone under the sun (was a common occurence). The team is not a world beater but there are visible signs of improvement. Actually getting teams out. It was pointless having all the batsmen when we couldn't get anyone out. The WI went from Walsh and Ambrose to Dillan, Powell, F.Rose, R King(and others) and we were plastered all around the park whereas our batters were skittled out for less than nothing. In the last couple of years there has certainly been slight improvements.

  • on April 30, 2012, 16:33 GMT

    i say this about ten years ago i am going to say it for the last time w i cricket is not going no where with just the current system in the w i. if anyone can correct me do so, when w i were in their glory days all 15 men in the squads were playing good continuous cricket in england when finish the guys leave back to england to play and with those great players they help mold the rest who didn't go when they complete in the shell shield matches there is no doth there is talent in the w i but look on the rest of the world local cricket and compare them with w i local cricket how much team you see getting bowled out in a 4 days game in 2 1/2 days and under 100 runs there were time when we had hope in w i team not too long ago when gayle took over the team in england and beat england went to south africa and beat them then he get hurt so some of you has a very short memory if it wasn't for jealousy a lot of wi fans would see that these guys playing in the ipl it would help wi one day

  • on April 30, 2012, 16:27 GMT

    @ blackie maybe i am pessimistic but in response to your 5 points. 1- most matches that went till day 5 had @ least 1 day or 90 overs of play washed out or lost to bad light so @ best we play 4 days on average.

    2/3 We often get the top order out pretty easily before tailenders add in excess of 100 runs which cost us the match. Test cricket is about competing all 15 sessions. dominating days of a match & failing to finish the opposition is little to brag about. Its an indication of incompetence complacency lack of experience tactical awareness & killer instinct. A predator chasing his prey even if it always looks like it has the advantage will starve until it makes a kill.

    4 of All the young batsmen we have tried Only Bravo & Edwards look like they have a hope of excelling at the highest level of cricket. Powell, Brathwaite et al are not ready as yet. 5- The spinners were always here but we didnt play them. ppl like Miller take a bundle of wickets every year in 4 day series

  • KDoc on April 30, 2012, 13:03 GMT

    After changing so much Coaches and Captains, this WI unit is starting to show fight. I am still not totally convinced though, because if you take Shiv's score out of the Test scores, WI is still lacking. Even the bowlers are not as convincing. But I am seeing improvements.

  • on April 30, 2012, 12:57 GMT

    The West Indies need to make a mental break from their glorious past. They need to think and work like Sri Lanka did in '94-95, when they began their meteoric rise for the 1996 World Cup. They can't keep looking at the glory days of Lloyd & Co. because they simply haven't had those kind of players - not physically nor mentally - for 15 years now. There is absolutely nothing in common with that West Indies. They have smaller craftsmen who need to become more effective, match-winning heroes like Jayasuriya, Kaluwitharana and Aravinda de Silva. Fidel Edwards and Kemar Roach need to bowl like Chaminda Vaas, and Shillingford and Bishoo need to be half as effective as Murali. To achieve this, they need either an Australian or South African coach who has produced results, not a West Indian from the deflating '90s himself. They don't just need discipline - they need a new mould.

  • CricketMaan on April 30, 2012, 12:27 GMT

    Sports is all about winners and winning, feeling good in a loss is just an excuse Windies, Bangla and Kiwis will be the first to drop Test cricket from thier calendar, they simply cannot win or afford it. Its time that these teams just focus on short version. India is another who might opt out of Test cricket though not in immediate future but as time goes by. that will leave only England, Aus and to some extent SA playing Tests.

  • ste13 on April 30, 2012, 11:14 GMT

    OK, WI lost against Aus, but they took all 20 wickets and defeat was the the top order to blame. In ODI and T20 it was honours even. For me it is evident that there is no way back, this team is making progress. And no place for Gayle the Entertainer. Although he can sparkle in 20/20, he is no longer test level, typical flat track bully. Pitches like the last series vs Aus and he would be out after less than 30 balls in each innings.

  • on April 30, 2012, 6:42 GMT

    A far fetched article Garth. Which team did Gibson leave as a player? The one that was beaten by South Africa in all but one match in 1998/99? The one he distanced himself from, choosing to put his get up in the dressing room? The one that he could not make? Garth, you must think West Indies fans have short memories. We remember Gibson, an in disciplined, selfish player. Secondly, beating Bangladesh is an accomplishment? The team won a Test against SA in SA under Gayle, and held NZ to a draw in NZ. It beat England at home under Gayle. Don't try to sell us the team is turning around under Gibson and Sammy. Yuh must b feel we chupid. Gibson himself admits to reshaping a team who would be his lackeys...take Shiv out (the same man he wanted to dump) and what would be the results. Watch it now Garth.

  • rotma11 on April 30, 2012, 3:49 GMT

    The new resurgence of WI cricket and its new attitude can be traced to the World Cup and a coach who had enough of the prima donnas and their attitude and decided to build a team, where guys played for each other and not individual glory. If we are honest as West Indians we would admitt that the team lost consistently with Gayle, Sarwan, C'paul, Bravo Snr., et al. To improve they needed to embrace Gibson's new more disciplined professional approach to WI cricket and for that some have suffered. We will lose and at times some of the individuals will fail in an attempt to get to better, but what we have seen in the last year is far better than we had in the previous 5-7 years. Though I am critical of Sammy I don't question his committment to the cause and the team in general. So yes, we will lose to the likes of Eng, SA, India, et al. for now, but I have no doubt that the hard work of Gibson nurturing obvious talent of our young cricketers will win out in the end.

  • bobagorof on April 30, 2012, 2:57 GMT

    @Romain Etwaroo - Really? Gibson's been coach for 2 years but cannot claim credit for Roach, who has been in International cricket for 3 years? Sounds like most of his career would have been under Gibson. As for Edwards, he averages almost 38 over his career but 32.6 under Gibson. Sounds like a big improvement to me. Rampaul has also had marked improvement under Gibson, averaging 32 instead of 72.5. Sounds like his 'clueless coaching' actually results in improved performances, even from developed players, which is what you want from a coach - isn't it?

  • on April 30, 2012, 2:20 GMT

    Gio Wilson, let them observe that, that was before the Sammy & Gibson combination

  • blackie on April 30, 2012, 2:07 GMT

    We 'so-called' West indies supporters really make me sick!!! We have had coach after coach and captain afer captain for the last 15 years and were still getting slaughtered. Now Gibson and Sammy have come along and we expect that our #7 ranked team will suddenly start beating the world. Why dont we look at the positives; 1. we now play for all 5 days rather than getting beaten in 3 days. 2. we now take all the opposition wickets on a regular basis.3. we sometimes dominate entire days of Test matches.4. over the last 3 series we have had centuries from young batsmen. 5. we suddenly have an abundance of decent spinners. For God's sake, give the team a chance. I'm not happy either that we are still losing and still prone to batting collapses but we had Gayle, Sarwan, Bravo Sn and we were getting hammered. We just had the top bowler and batsman in the series against Australia. When last have we had something like that.?PLEASE GIVE THE GUYS A CHANCE!!

  • on April 30, 2012, 1:39 GMT

    A little common sense in the decision making would also go a long way towards making the fans happier. Was it entirely unavoidable to have the series Clashing with the Ipl? Did WICB even try to schedule the series vs New Zealand first so that even If IPl was going on @ least we would have been facing much weaker opposition & we would be more prepared for the real deal vs Australia? Not Playing a single match at Sabina Park for the entire series ? Really? has the Ashes ever been held in England & a match wasn't played at Lords but at the Rose Bowl? Or Has Hobart ever gotten preference over the SCG or MCG during an English tour down Under? seriously! & whats up with scheduling matches Monday to Friday? Has the almighty WICB decided to move the weekend so it now begins on Tuesday night Or is unemployment so rife in the Caribbean that people dont go to work anymore? these are the little things that make us as fans want to pull our hair out!

  • on April 30, 2012, 1:03 GMT

    At best we have taken 1 step forward & 2 steps backward. Our Bowling has improved but we still dropping catches left right & center, Failing to get rid of tailenders, consistently losing matches that we should have won or worst case scenario drawn. We dont have a clue how to use DRS, our Captains ability as a Test cricketer & a tactician is a joke. Sri Lanka fired Dilshan as captain & Marsh as their coach after they did better than anyone expected in South Africa. If Bangladesh Cricket Board could be upset with Shakib al Hasan & Tamim Iqbal as captain & vice captain & their Coach as well, what right do we as sensible followers of West Indies Cricket have to be singing the praises of Gibson & Sammy? Is their no better Coach available at the moment?

  • on April 30, 2012, 0:31 GMT

    One would hope that the coach would show more understanding of the situation he & his team are in. Losing when you are almost incapable of winning is a more forgivable sin than losing when you had ample opportunity to attain a victory or @ least avoid defeat. I see no huge improvement to celebrate as the 2 series vs Australia before this 1 just concluded we also lost 2-nil & against much better opposition. We still depending on 1 batsman to make the runs for us. In the West Indies it is Chanderpaul & during the tour of Australia it was Gayle with a little help from the other batsmen. But for the intervention of rain we may even have suffered our 1st white wash in our own backyard this time around. Getting into winning positions & losing anyway is nothing new to West Indies cricket. In 08 we had Australia 18 for 5 @ Sabina yet we lost & @ Perth in 09 we bowled them out for under 200 which we failed to do in this series & we still lost by 30 odd runs which is basically half of 75.

  • on April 30, 2012, 0:17 GMT

    @west_indiesBoss. Those so called supporters are not real supporters of West Indies cricket. They believe that a West Indies team would only get their support if their favorite players are selected and their choice of player is made captain. I, however, am a true WI supporter and I made my way down to the Queens Park Oval, paid my money and supported the team. If they announced that MR BEAN would be captaining the team I will still give 100% support. Oh, by the way the oval was very empty from day 2 onwards. Wonder if any of the naysayers were there. Maybe not. It's easy to talk with a keyboard in front of you, but it's difficult to put your money where your mouth is.

  • on April 30, 2012, 0:14 GMT

    Otis deserves credit for improving the bowling. Rampaul was a runs cart before his season last year and he helped hone the raw talent in ppl like Roach . However it is obvious that there are still a lot of errors that you have not rectified & seem to be unable to correct. Something as simple as advising the captain to remove himself from the slip cordon when the faster bowlers are bowling especially in Test matches would go a long way towards improving the results we have been having and would be much appreciated. It is also clear that more needs to be done to get the captain, vice captain & other senior players to show more skills re tactical planning, on field strategies, field placement, bowler rotation & DRS usage.

  • Chris_P on April 30, 2012, 0:07 GMT

    Not sure what these critics of Gibson want. He has transformed an insipid team that consistently rolled over and performed meekly on the world stage to a developing unit that shows courage and a willingness to take the fight to the opposition. I have watched West Indian cricket drop to the bowels of test standard, but this team is definitely on the rise. Even in India, they showed character against a side that is historically difficult to beat at home. The Australian side, while nowhere near the calibre of teams of the past still had to battle hard against a determined opposition. Credit where its due, folks. Results aren't are not the only standard of measure, it is how you perform that really counts.

  • west_indiesBoss on April 29, 2012, 21:25 GMT

    it shocks me to see these fellow west indies supporters complain. obviously the team has made progress under Sammy and gibson.. there is no doubt to that. so i say let them be.. and surely west indies cricket will improve.. bat on gibson

  • on April 29, 2012, 19:06 GMT

    The real problem WI would face in the near future is to find out a replacement for Chanders once he retires.. He may be there for another year or two.. but after that they need someone who s as gritty and stuborn as Chanders..(He has proved time and again Gibson, Honte and Sammy wrong.. latest being the one against Ausees..). Roch, rampaul and Edwards can be a divastating trio with the ball.. add Russell and Narine to the package..They are a side to take 20 wickets many times in 5 days.. But the batting is always a worry.. may Gayle and Brao bothers can step up.. Being a Hardcore WI fan i would like to see them conquering the world.. including My country India.. 3 cheers to the efforts..

  • on April 29, 2012, 18:55 GMT

    "If you look at how we played in India and you look at how we played against Australia, I don't think we're far off from what we're trying to do." Utter nonsense from Gibson! If Chanderpaul, his nemesis, did not produce more than half the runs, then he would not have anything to cheer about. How many young players have been developed during his stint? He cannot claim credit for Chanders, Roach, Rampaul and Edwards - they were well developed before he brought his clueless coaching. Let us see much how much of his optimism is left after England thrashes us (West Indies). With the exception of Chanderpaul, I do know how this crop of batsmen can succeed againt Anderson, Broad, and Swann in cold and windy English conditions.

  • Mayfield on April 29, 2012, 17:54 GMT

    You have a lot of naysayers on this board, ready to criticize Sammy and Gibson. It is obvious they are not being objective. The WI was by no stretch of the imagination ball beaters with Gayle, Sarwan, Samuels, Bravo, et al. Were they winning consistently? Were they showing fight back? How many times did the batting collapse with the aforementioned players? Were they bowling out teams? What kind of attitude did they exhibit on the field?

    This young WI team is showing a lot of character and in time they will develop the resolve to win on a consistent basis. I will wait to see the response from the naysayers then.

  • on April 29, 2012, 16:29 GMT

    Hope the contract is renewed and we dont ever see parts of the dressing room pulling against their own team ever again.

  • on April 29, 2012, 14:08 GMT

    Whether or not we like his methods or how he has gone about some things,any objective thinking person can see signs of self belief growing and definately being way more competive.They shared a series against Pakistan last year,dominated and had moments against India at home and away that they should have finished them off as well as what happened against Australia.It is only a matter of time that once they continue to grow,victories will come alot more consistently.No one will fool themselves about the daunting prospect of facing England at home in early spring,they may get massacred,then again,they again,if the batsmen can put runs on the board,the bowling combination can take 20 wickets even with that monserous batting line up England have.We all know,other players could have been there,but due to IPL commitments,they are not,can only work with what is there plus in the past,with so called far superior batsmen,they failed to score enough runs in BOTH innings,thats the problem.

  • on April 29, 2012, 13:51 GMT

    Can't wait for his contract to expire. Hope Hunte too goes by then so fairness and merit can return to characterize West Indies cricket.

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  • on April 29, 2012, 13:51 GMT

    Can't wait for his contract to expire. Hope Hunte too goes by then so fairness and merit can return to characterize West Indies cricket.

  • on April 29, 2012, 14:08 GMT

    Whether or not we like his methods or how he has gone about some things,any objective thinking person can see signs of self belief growing and definately being way more competive.They shared a series against Pakistan last year,dominated and had moments against India at home and away that they should have finished them off as well as what happened against Australia.It is only a matter of time that once they continue to grow,victories will come alot more consistently.No one will fool themselves about the daunting prospect of facing England at home in early spring,they may get massacred,then again,they again,if the batsmen can put runs on the board,the bowling combination can take 20 wickets even with that monserous batting line up England have.We all know,other players could have been there,but due to IPL commitments,they are not,can only work with what is there plus in the past,with so called far superior batsmen,they failed to score enough runs in BOTH innings,thats the problem.

  • on April 29, 2012, 16:29 GMT

    Hope the contract is renewed and we dont ever see parts of the dressing room pulling against their own team ever again.

  • Mayfield on April 29, 2012, 17:54 GMT

    You have a lot of naysayers on this board, ready to criticize Sammy and Gibson. It is obvious they are not being objective. The WI was by no stretch of the imagination ball beaters with Gayle, Sarwan, Samuels, Bravo, et al. Were they winning consistently? Were they showing fight back? How many times did the batting collapse with the aforementioned players? Were they bowling out teams? What kind of attitude did they exhibit on the field?

    This young WI team is showing a lot of character and in time they will develop the resolve to win on a consistent basis. I will wait to see the response from the naysayers then.

  • on April 29, 2012, 18:55 GMT

    "If you look at how we played in India and you look at how we played against Australia, I don't think we're far off from what we're trying to do." Utter nonsense from Gibson! If Chanderpaul, his nemesis, did not produce more than half the runs, then he would not have anything to cheer about. How many young players have been developed during his stint? He cannot claim credit for Chanders, Roach, Rampaul and Edwards - they were well developed before he brought his clueless coaching. Let us see much how much of his optimism is left after England thrashes us (West Indies). With the exception of Chanderpaul, I do know how this crop of batsmen can succeed againt Anderson, Broad, and Swann in cold and windy English conditions.

  • on April 29, 2012, 19:06 GMT

    The real problem WI would face in the near future is to find out a replacement for Chanders once he retires.. He may be there for another year or two.. but after that they need someone who s as gritty and stuborn as Chanders..(He has proved time and again Gibson, Honte and Sammy wrong.. latest being the one against Ausees..). Roch, rampaul and Edwards can be a divastating trio with the ball.. add Russell and Narine to the package..They are a side to take 20 wickets many times in 5 days.. But the batting is always a worry.. may Gayle and Brao bothers can step up.. Being a Hardcore WI fan i would like to see them conquering the world.. including My country India.. 3 cheers to the efforts..

  • west_indiesBoss on April 29, 2012, 21:25 GMT

    it shocks me to see these fellow west indies supporters complain. obviously the team has made progress under Sammy and gibson.. there is no doubt to that. so i say let them be.. and surely west indies cricket will improve.. bat on gibson

  • Chris_P on April 30, 2012, 0:07 GMT

    Not sure what these critics of Gibson want. He has transformed an insipid team that consistently rolled over and performed meekly on the world stage to a developing unit that shows courage and a willingness to take the fight to the opposition. I have watched West Indian cricket drop to the bowels of test standard, but this team is definitely on the rise. Even in India, they showed character against a side that is historically difficult to beat at home. The Australian side, while nowhere near the calibre of teams of the past still had to battle hard against a determined opposition. Credit where its due, folks. Results aren't are not the only standard of measure, it is how you perform that really counts.

  • on April 30, 2012, 0:14 GMT

    Otis deserves credit for improving the bowling. Rampaul was a runs cart before his season last year and he helped hone the raw talent in ppl like Roach . However it is obvious that there are still a lot of errors that you have not rectified & seem to be unable to correct. Something as simple as advising the captain to remove himself from the slip cordon when the faster bowlers are bowling especially in Test matches would go a long way towards improving the results we have been having and would be much appreciated. It is also clear that more needs to be done to get the captain, vice captain & other senior players to show more skills re tactical planning, on field strategies, field placement, bowler rotation & DRS usage.

  • on April 30, 2012, 0:17 GMT

    @west_indiesBoss. Those so called supporters are not real supporters of West Indies cricket. They believe that a West Indies team would only get their support if their favorite players are selected and their choice of player is made captain. I, however, am a true WI supporter and I made my way down to the Queens Park Oval, paid my money and supported the team. If they announced that MR BEAN would be captaining the team I will still give 100% support. Oh, by the way the oval was very empty from day 2 onwards. Wonder if any of the naysayers were there. Maybe not. It's easy to talk with a keyboard in front of you, but it's difficult to put your money where your mouth is.