India in Australia 2011-12 January 17, 2012

Laxman has right to decide when to go - Gambhir

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Gautam Gambhir has come out in support of the under-pressure VVS Laxman, saying nobody has the right to decide when he should retire. There have been reports coming out of India, quoting BCCI officials, which say Laxman is going to retire soon. One report even said that Laxman might have played his last Test in Perth. Adding to that is criticism from former players, who feel the team is aged and urgently needs the infusion of fresh youngsters.

Gambhir said it was not fair for anyone other than the player himself to talk of retirement, or for people to criticise just one man. "Look, my question is, why criticise one person? He has been a legend of the game. It's not only, VVS Laxman but all of us [who have underperformed]. The top six, the top seven should be criticised equally. We have all failed as a unit. So why only VVS Laxman?

"He has been a legend of the game. He has served Indian cricket for a long, long time. There should not be anyone [else] who should be deciding about his retirement. It should be him. Whenever he wants to take it, he should take it. Rather than criticising just one person, you should be criticising all seven batsmen who have failed as a unit. The entire team is behind him [Laxman], and I have always believed you should not criticise only one or two people. If you are to criticise, criticise all seven batsmen who have not performed well and let the team down.

"No one should decide when people should retire, it should be the individual's decision. And it would always be an individual's decision. Whether it be the media or people back home or whether it's ex-cricketers, I think no one has any right to force anyone to take retirement. It should be his personal decision. He has served Indian cricket for a very long time, and he is still working very hard, as people have seen in the nets. I have said it's just a matter of one innings. With one good innings he will be confident again."

Whether Laxman is going to retire anytime soon or not is not clear, but the indications here are that Laxman will play the Adelaide Test. India had a full training session at the WACA ground, and Laxman batted for a long time. Duncan Fletcher, the coach, spent most of his time working with Laxman, especially when Trevor Penny, the fielding coach, gave him throwdowns.

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on January 19, 2012, 17:54 GMT

    True words from Gambhir. We can not forget what guys like laxman, Dravid and Sachin have done for Indian cricket. I agree that Laxman is looking aged but still i agree with gambhir that nobody has any right to tell these guys that when they should retire. They are wise enough to decide on their own. It has happened in the past, when Indian selectors treated Sourav Ganguly in a manner that he choose to retire from cricket. But sice then we have tried so many players foor his spot but no one has filled it up to the mark. Though everybody here will say that he wont have served India verylong but still guys it should be up to the player to choose his retirement rather than a common man standing up and sayin that you should go

    Hats off to Gambhir for standing up and saying the truth.

  • FromAtlanta on January 19, 2012, 17:30 GMT

    Dear Mr Tendulkar/Dravid/Laxman:

    We have loved watching you all for so many years now. When will you retire and simply go away? It does not appear that you will retire on your own.

    Clearly the BCCI selectors do not have the GUTs to drop you. And you dont want to leave. What will it take to force you out?

  • on January 19, 2012, 17:22 GMT

    Raghu Chennappa: How will you prove that you have good team and players?? team india has already shown there class in england 4-0 and aus 3-0

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 19, 2012, 15:35 GMT

    First thing BCCI needs to do is - DROP the Selectors. Look at Sri Lanka. They just dropped the selectors. Even though SL have performed better than India - they at least won a match against SA. The first thing the new selection committee needs to do is - DROP the non-performers - LAX, Viru, Gauti, Dravid and SRT and give a chance to youngsters like Rohit Sharma, Manoj Tiwari, Pujara, Abhinav Mukund. No Murli please - he got enough chances. If we are going to lose anyway - why not give a chance to the youngsters?

  • henchart on January 19, 2012, 14:53 GMT

    Batsmen Like SRT come once in a lifetime.He can bat on any pitch .He was playing fluently in Trent Bridge or was it Edgbaston but got out freakishly at the non striker's end .Ofcourse he missed his 100th 100 at Oval by few runs and people have the audacity to say he was a disappointment in England.Even in Australia the likes of Dravid,Gambhir are scratching and scrapping for runs but SRT is fluent /effortless in his batting.No one dare talk of SRT,Dravid and VVS in same breath.SRT is and always will be cut above the rest as a batsman.But even he is not above team India,mind you.

  • my2centsonthis on January 19, 2012, 13:31 GMT

    well, there is no point in axing anyone before the last test as the series is already decided. Also, spare a thought for all the seniors who have helped India achieve many laurels. But since you cannot hang on to fading and out of form players in any sport, the best thing to do now would be to categorically tell all the seniors that this is their last test.

  • on January 19, 2012, 12:23 GMT

    no proper utilization of resources by the Management. too much of any thing will spoil the party. As our people will never understand. 1. After the first test match loss - no measures taken in the team to stablize. 2. after the 2nd test match loss - only ashwin is been rested and vinaykumar picked in(4 pace bowler). 3. third match is lost - the blame is on one person (laxshman). ridiculas.

    Keys points to be noted. 1 No opening slot shuffle. 2 unecessary 4th pacer. instead of evaluating our own strenght. 3 too many senior player in team. 4 dhoni should have been rested for atleast two test matches and given chances for upcoming youngesters. 5 only one young batsmen given opertunity and never allowed him bat up the order and in under pressure situation. 6 never used R P singh in past 3 test match hoping the forth coming one.

  • on January 19, 2012, 7:30 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas.. Thats funny.. Can u tell me which 3 consecutive series r u referring to..?? And gimme the perfect stats.. Again, y pick only 3 series.?? Lets start frm SA tour and compare the stats of Indian batsmen.. Btw, scoring 100 runs doesn't mean anything to u.. rite.?? I hope u wont refer century column of stats to prove ur statement.. Check the consistency of runs scored..

  • GRAMMY_SACHIN on January 19, 2012, 6:52 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas:- I used to enjoy your comments, most of them (90%) has solid cricketing logic. Of late, unfortunately, your views on Sachin (Just to make sure that Dravid & VVS, your favourites are supported) is uncalled for. He did well against WI in India (94, 76, etc. and all 3 SRT, RD & VVS failed in 3rd Test Run Chase in Mumbai). Dropping out of WI tour is no crime. In fact, he made sure that youngsters caan be fitted in (Kohli got the chance). I have never seen RD or VVS giving opportunity to youngsters like this, again it is n't anybody's fault. Other comments like exposing Unadkat, useless 50th century in SA (What about 3 useful RD's century in ENG Tour !!), Vacation in Wimbledon shows your immaturity / lack of foresight. Just see my comments in this article on future plan. 60 to 70% it will happen like that. Please send comments with crickeing logic. Only SRT is looks to be in form in OZ tour. That's the reality (Unfortunately BIG runs are not coming for him fo far)

  • GRAMMY_SACHIN on January 19, 2012, 6:19 GMT

    @Sundaram Natarajan:- Sincerely appreciate your cricketing knowledge as well your statistical analysis. Your stat itself shows VVS should be the first one to be axed. Sachin has 44+ average and VVS has only 36. More over, even though Dravid had a great 2011, if you have watched the AUS series, Sachin was the only batsmen who seem to be not having any trouble with his footwork, tmimng, etc. Watch these matches as well as listen to knowledgebale people on the commentary. It is just misfortune that his current form is not getting translated into BIG runs. Lack of support from others further adds fuel to the fire. Everyone's surprise, Dravid is struggling after a fantastic 2011. There is no biasing towards Sachin in retirement plans of BIG 3, but common sense & logical thinking is the need of the hour to phase out the 3 stalwarts.

  • on January 19, 2012, 17:54 GMT

    True words from Gambhir. We can not forget what guys like laxman, Dravid and Sachin have done for Indian cricket. I agree that Laxman is looking aged but still i agree with gambhir that nobody has any right to tell these guys that when they should retire. They are wise enough to decide on their own. It has happened in the past, when Indian selectors treated Sourav Ganguly in a manner that he choose to retire from cricket. But sice then we have tried so many players foor his spot but no one has filled it up to the mark. Though everybody here will say that he wont have served India verylong but still guys it should be up to the player to choose his retirement rather than a common man standing up and sayin that you should go

    Hats off to Gambhir for standing up and saying the truth.

  • FromAtlanta on January 19, 2012, 17:30 GMT

    Dear Mr Tendulkar/Dravid/Laxman:

    We have loved watching you all for so many years now. When will you retire and simply go away? It does not appear that you will retire on your own.

    Clearly the BCCI selectors do not have the GUTs to drop you. And you dont want to leave. What will it take to force you out?

  • on January 19, 2012, 17:22 GMT

    Raghu Chennappa: How will you prove that you have good team and players?? team india has already shown there class in england 4-0 and aus 3-0

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 19, 2012, 15:35 GMT

    First thing BCCI needs to do is - DROP the Selectors. Look at Sri Lanka. They just dropped the selectors. Even though SL have performed better than India - they at least won a match against SA. The first thing the new selection committee needs to do is - DROP the non-performers - LAX, Viru, Gauti, Dravid and SRT and give a chance to youngsters like Rohit Sharma, Manoj Tiwari, Pujara, Abhinav Mukund. No Murli please - he got enough chances. If we are going to lose anyway - why not give a chance to the youngsters?

  • henchart on January 19, 2012, 14:53 GMT

    Batsmen Like SRT come once in a lifetime.He can bat on any pitch .He was playing fluently in Trent Bridge or was it Edgbaston but got out freakishly at the non striker's end .Ofcourse he missed his 100th 100 at Oval by few runs and people have the audacity to say he was a disappointment in England.Even in Australia the likes of Dravid,Gambhir are scratching and scrapping for runs but SRT is fluent /effortless in his batting.No one dare talk of SRT,Dravid and VVS in same breath.SRT is and always will be cut above the rest as a batsman.But even he is not above team India,mind you.

  • my2centsonthis on January 19, 2012, 13:31 GMT

    well, there is no point in axing anyone before the last test as the series is already decided. Also, spare a thought for all the seniors who have helped India achieve many laurels. But since you cannot hang on to fading and out of form players in any sport, the best thing to do now would be to categorically tell all the seniors that this is their last test.

  • on January 19, 2012, 12:23 GMT

    no proper utilization of resources by the Management. too much of any thing will spoil the party. As our people will never understand. 1. After the first test match loss - no measures taken in the team to stablize. 2. after the 2nd test match loss - only ashwin is been rested and vinaykumar picked in(4 pace bowler). 3. third match is lost - the blame is on one person (laxshman). ridiculas.

    Keys points to be noted. 1 No opening slot shuffle. 2 unecessary 4th pacer. instead of evaluating our own strenght. 3 too many senior player in team. 4 dhoni should have been rested for atleast two test matches and given chances for upcoming youngesters. 5 only one young batsmen given opertunity and never allowed him bat up the order and in under pressure situation. 6 never used R P singh in past 3 test match hoping the forth coming one.

  • on January 19, 2012, 7:30 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas.. Thats funny.. Can u tell me which 3 consecutive series r u referring to..?? And gimme the perfect stats.. Again, y pick only 3 series.?? Lets start frm SA tour and compare the stats of Indian batsmen.. Btw, scoring 100 runs doesn't mean anything to u.. rite.?? I hope u wont refer century column of stats to prove ur statement.. Check the consistency of runs scored..

  • GRAMMY_SACHIN on January 19, 2012, 6:52 GMT

    @Dravid_Gravitas:- I used to enjoy your comments, most of them (90%) has solid cricketing logic. Of late, unfortunately, your views on Sachin (Just to make sure that Dravid & VVS, your favourites are supported) is uncalled for. He did well against WI in India (94, 76, etc. and all 3 SRT, RD & VVS failed in 3rd Test Run Chase in Mumbai). Dropping out of WI tour is no crime. In fact, he made sure that youngsters caan be fitted in (Kohli got the chance). I have never seen RD or VVS giving opportunity to youngsters like this, again it is n't anybody's fault. Other comments like exposing Unadkat, useless 50th century in SA (What about 3 useful RD's century in ENG Tour !!), Vacation in Wimbledon shows your immaturity / lack of foresight. Just see my comments in this article on future plan. 60 to 70% it will happen like that. Please send comments with crickeing logic. Only SRT is looks to be in form in OZ tour. That's the reality (Unfortunately BIG runs are not coming for him fo far)

  • GRAMMY_SACHIN on January 19, 2012, 6:19 GMT

    @Sundaram Natarajan:- Sincerely appreciate your cricketing knowledge as well your statistical analysis. Your stat itself shows VVS should be the first one to be axed. Sachin has 44+ average and VVS has only 36. More over, even though Dravid had a great 2011, if you have watched the AUS series, Sachin was the only batsmen who seem to be not having any trouble with his footwork, tmimng, etc. Watch these matches as well as listen to knowledgebale people on the commentary. It is just misfortune that his current form is not getting translated into BIG runs. Lack of support from others further adds fuel to the fire. Everyone's surprise, Dravid is struggling after a fantastic 2011. There is no biasing towards Sachin in retirement plans of BIG 3, but common sense & logical thinking is the need of the hour to phase out the 3 stalwarts.

  • Heat11 on January 19, 2012, 5:33 GMT

    I am watching all newz channels and all of them asking only Laxman and Dravid to retire and not sachin. totally biased..sachin second innings scores arepathetic..he is best among the worst in Oz tour..In ENg tour only Dravid scored 100s..that time nobody talked about Sachin retirement..First sachin should retire and followed by laxman and dravid..axe gambirs, sehwag and dhoni..

  • on January 19, 2012, 3:41 GMT

    we salute your approach gambhir and The Great Indian team... you need not to apoligise to your own people... we are with you... you made us proud in many important times... by winning the world cup... by beating our archrivals in on all important matches... common boys.. we will make the winning habit... we are great team with all great players..we have to prove once again ... thats all...

  • virology on January 19, 2012, 1:30 GMT

    @ ASHERCA. ge a life dude

  • on January 19, 2012, 0:38 GMT

    Since 4 Nov 2010, all tests played by Dravid, Lakshman and Tendulkar: Sachin Runs Innings N.O 100s 50s Average OverallCareerAve 1192 29 2 2 7 44.15 55.71 Minus Australia 943 23 0 2 4 41.00 55.71

    Dravid Runs Innings N.O 100s 50s Average OverallCareerAve 1660 35 3 7 4 51.88 52.62 Minus Australia 1492 29 3 7 3 57.38 52.62

    Lakshman1136 runs averages 40.57 (from 4 Nov 2010 excluding the current Australia series) and 1238 runs at average 36.41 (including current Australia) with 1 hundred and 10 50s

    Is is Sachin or Dravid or Lakshman that needs to be axed? I think people are so biased in favour Sachin

  • on January 18, 2012, 22:38 GMT

    @Abhijit Shinde: I like how you only want Sehwag Laxman and Dravid axed due to seniority and not Tendulkar...

  • dmqi on January 18, 2012, 21:42 GMT

    SOLUTION FOR PATHETIC PERFORMANCE: EXCLUDE ALL PLAYERS OVER 30, INCLUDING GOOD FOR NOTHING SHEWAG AND DHONI. BRING A YOUNG TEAM AND LET THEM PLAY 4TH TEST AND NO TEST ON INDIAN SOIL FOR 2 YEARS.

  • mustufa on January 18, 2012, 21:07 GMT

    This is not about form, its simply about him being the first one to be phased out, he looks the most aged, and acts the most aged, forget what he can score, he needs to hang his boots, and sure he can pick and choose his time to retire, but the selectors can and should pick and choose the time to drop him, which is now, keep your respect and retire before they drop you.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 18, 2012, 18:41 GMT

    @AsherCA, your post was in poor taste and baseless nevertheless....But hell, it was fine when Mumbaikars used Indian Team as though it was their inherited property. Right now, one certain paper god from Mumbai has failed in 3 consecutive series and why is nobody pushing for his dropping? Because all the ex-cricketers know that even they too stayed beyond sell by date for the sake of records and so they don't have a leg to stand on to ask for axing one certain paper god though he didn't perform for 3 consecutive series. Don't even talk of VVS and Dravid. VVS didn't play well in England at his non-regular batting position. Did well against Windies at home. Can you say the same about Sachin? Dravid was a class apart until this series. So don't even bring him into this mindless bashing. Look at Dhoni, Sachin, Sehwag and Gambhir if you have to drop anybody. Please publish....

  • Gilbertju on January 18, 2012, 17:58 GMT

    I'm surprised to see lot of OZ newspapers criticising Indian team. One thing i would say is every cricket team are good in their own soil. The same OZ team plays terribly in Indian soil. There should be matches conducted in neutral venues to decide which team plays better.OZ news papers can write after that....!

  • gothetaniwha on January 18, 2012, 17:51 GMT

    Look on the bright side India if they have a World Cup Masters tournament (over 35 ) in the next year or two , India would be a shoo in to win it , they won,t have to change anything - just send there test team ..

  • VAS4 on January 18, 2012, 17:29 GMT

    Howmuch ever you try to ignore it, it is a fact that it is high time Sachin, Dravid, Laxman retire. Should he fail again, Sehwag must be dropped from the team for some time. Like Manjerkar said the other day, if we are to lose, why not lose with the youngsters?

  • 6pack on January 18, 2012, 16:06 GMT

    Forget 'legend of the game'.. sentiments of this nature needn't come into play. Otherwise agreed - a player has the right to retire whenever he feels the time is right. HOWEVER, that same player can be DROPPED by the selectors/management based on performance or a lack thereof. So in Laxman's case, he can take his time to make a decision - but by dropping him for the 4th test, the Indian thinktank can hasten his decision.

  • rpoduval2000 on January 18, 2012, 14:41 GMT

    The only way Laxman could have survived an iminent axing after his last two overseas tour figures would have been if he were a budding cricketer in the prime of his youth who has had an exceptional domestic season even then I think he would have been "rested " for the next match .A 37 year old cricketer cannot afford to have a figures like the one he has had in the last two tours .Yes he has a right to pick when he can leave as long as he picks it as Adeilede ,next test even that would be prolonging it .If he doesnt do it now,next thing you know he would not be picked for the next tour and he would have to retire from his home .

  • Nampally on January 18, 2012, 13:44 GMT

    Nobody is denying Laxman to decide his time for retirement. Only question the fans have for Gambhir is why should a player be assured his spot in the XI based on past glory & not on present form. This is the real issue for the Indian batting. Consistent failures of thebatting. Failure of 4 out of 6 batsmen has totally annuled India's ability to put up a competitive total, let alone win. There is no point in saying that "we played irresponsibly collectively".Why did you play irresponsibly? Replacing out of form Laxman with Rohit Sharma, who is in great form - is it too much to ask? In fact all the failing batsmen should have been replaced with new lot because of their "irresponsible batting". What excuse has Gambhir got for his or the rest of the batting playing irresponsibly. Nothing.Dhoni says "I am the main culprit". But he is still playing - No punishment even by dropping! Now Gambhir talks about irresponsibility unashamedly with no consquences. Irresponsible guys should be sacked!

  • itsthewayuplay on January 18, 2012, 13:05 GMT

    What is needed is an honest appraisal of Indian cricket from grass roots through to international level with a genuine desire to accept and implement change. I fear that with a combination of a 2 year period of home matches and the IPL due to begin in the not too distant future, the humiliation suffered in England and Australian will all be forgotten.

  • itsthewayuplay on January 18, 2012, 13:01 GMT

    This is not the first time in his career that VVS has been made the fall guy. He has been treated badly by fans, commentators and the BCCI throughout his career. There were many issues in the disastrous and humiliating England tour but the the biggest disappointment for me was Sachin's performance yet nobody was calling for Sachin to retire. I agree with Gambhir that it's up to VVS to decide when he retires but the selectors have the right to select or not select any player based on form and potential. IMO if there is to be equality of treatment and VVS has to go because of batting 'failures' then the entire batting lineup has to go as they have collectively failed and the bowlers for failing to take wickets and bowl basic line and length.

  • on January 18, 2012, 12:53 GMT

    Well People Might sound right when they say SACK Dhoni now because his performance in England and Australia support it.. But the Million Dollar Question is Whom do you replace with? A Hapless Gambhir who is in an even poor run of form or A reckless Sehwag who does Adventurous things but is unreliable.. I do respect the things SRT RD and VVS have done for the country but now its best for them to step down gracefully. What this team lacks is purely aggression and the hunger to win.. When you get a Kohli or a Sharma into the side they are always under pressure to perform to keep their place in the side but thats not the case with seniors.. Domestic players are waiting in the ranks to break into the side(I dont mean to say they will all become instant hits bt they do deserve a chance) So looking forward to the future I dnt mind what the result of Adelaide might be.. whether Sachin Veeru RD and VVS score tons.. We need to bring the attitude 'Perform or Perish' and give youngsters a chance

  • Harry_Kool on January 18, 2012, 12:45 GMT

    No cricketer has the right to say when he goes if his use by date has already passed. This is why Indian cricket will never progress. Alan Border, Steve & Mark Waugh, Taylor, Healy, Merv Hughes, Doug Walters and a host of other Aussie legends got the tap by selectors. You are invited to represent your country, that is all. You don't tell the game when you want to go when your time is already up.

  • x-squire-x on January 18, 2012, 12:11 GMT

    some fella said laxman is "frighteningly overrated"... wow.... almost 9000 test runs at an average over 46, 17 centuries and 56 50's, and most importantly he's more relable, and has played more important innings than any other current indian batsman dravid aside.

  • on January 18, 2012, 11:14 GMT

    G8 statement by Gambir. We should have tried rahane as a opener instead of sehwag in the third test and rohit instead of laxman as former struggling to get in to form. Anyway we are loosing why dont you try juniors. Lets make them to feel the forein pitches. Dhoni did a big mistake in replacing Vinay kumar to Inform Ashwin as he was scoring runs. Dhoni shud be retire from test and concentrate on ODIs and T20.

  • on January 18, 2012, 10:10 GMT

    Laxman & the selectors have crossed the rekha and fallen on their face. Now they must axe shewag, laxman , dravid or name the team as India Seniors.

  • on January 18, 2012, 9:45 GMT

    Thumbs up for Gambhir! Spoken like a true Leader. (For those who didn't get the cue, this is a facial for the press con given by Dhoni, the other day, where he failed to stand up for Laxman, while his' own form was in a disarray) /// For those who can't get a grasp of the challenge behind adjusting to foreign conditions, try eating an undercooked & boring foreign dish for five straight days. If you are to simulate an out of form team or a player, try the same after inducing a bowel complication!

  • on January 18, 2012, 8:57 GMT

    Well stated! Some sanity prevails.

  • on January 18, 2012, 8:22 GMT

    why is there a question of retiring? if people have problem with him then make him sit out for afew tests....and play the youngsters......if they perform it's good for the team if it isn't then get back to the seniors.......we must remember..CLASS IS PERMANENT BUT FORM IS TEMPORARY & laxman is aclass apart

  • AsherCA on January 18, 2012, 7:55 GMT

    It is evident that Srikanth, Dhoni & N Srinivasan are using Laxman to reserve positions for CSK players - Murli Vijay & S Badrinath. If good-for-nothing Laxman was replaced with either of the 2 Mumbai-based batsmen available to Dhoni & the guy picked performed, the next free slot would be that of Dravid for these CSK players (Laxman's South Indian slot would be lost to Mumbai)...Something that none of these 3 powers of Indian cricket want. So - India lost one more series, the first one I can recollect on cricketing merit in to Australia (all previous losses have been to umpiring errors, not Aussie Cricketers)....that is the price India pays for having 3 individuals owing their positions of power in the Indian Cricket's scheme of things to SOUTH Indian linkages. I as an Indian am praying that Laxman plays at Adelaide & India lose - the only way to get rid of the cussedness of the South Indian Mafia (Dhoni,Srikanth & Srinivasan) !

  • on January 18, 2012, 7:53 GMT

    Very harsh to force a player to retire who has served so much.....but the management and the selectors should show the guts to drop a player: no matter if it's laxman, gambhir or sehwag. If they are performing poorly, should be dropped. Paul collingwood, Michael Vaughan, Ramnaresh Sarwan are examples of being dropped due to poor performance eventhough they got the reputation of previous performances.........Can't understand why Indians always run after emotional talks saying they have contributed so long and stuff......hope they are not playing free of cost......They are getting paid for playing in tri-colours. So no need for centimental dialogues and stuff. If Laxman is considered to be dropped, then it's better he makes a call to retire in the 1st test against sri lanka to get sent-off in home which is a tribute for a great player. But I suggest to give ROHIT SHARMA- one chance in tests in australia.

  • mlkt on January 18, 2012, 7:50 GMT

    this is another bad thing which IPL has done to indian cricket...the fear of loosing out on lucrative IPL contracts will make these aged players to continue playing...because once they retre...no ipl team will take them......they have the example of ganguly and lara in front of them.........

  • on January 18, 2012, 7:42 GMT

    The rotation policy should have exercised when south Africans came to india last time. The new players has to be tried in home matches before giving chances in outside subcontinent. Time has proved that Laxman has been struggling in outside subcontinent since last few years may be due to the influence of T20 experience or lack of concentration due to age. Whatever it may be, he has to say good bye atleast by 4th test. Players like Rohit, Badrinath(despite his age),Pujara,Mukund,Rahane all has to be given their decent opportunities alongside of the present fab four, but Laxman has to make his way for these players.

  • CandidIndian on January 18, 2012, 7:40 GMT

    Those who are asking Laxman to retire should look at form of Sehwag,its been 4 yrs since he made century outside subcontinent.Talking of recent performances Sehwag failed in SA, Eng , then WI(at home) and now in Aus.In-spite of such poor performance now he is named as replacement captain in next test as Dhoni is banned.Dhoni has been equally poor in tests,then why should Laxman be the scapegoat.If someone has to go then why not Dhoni and Sehwag? Also Dhoni at-least plays well in limited overs cricket even outside India, Sehwag has turned from attacking player to a flat track bully,he should spare test cricket for youngsters and should concentrate on playing for Daredevils.There is a rumor that before IPL a high quality cricket match will be played between Sachin 11 and Harry potter 11,perfect platform for Sehwag to make a grand comeback.

  • nyc_missile on January 18, 2012, 7:38 GMT

    When the ball is new,our Gambhir says phew,same with Sehwag and less said about Dhoni the better.I refuse to believe that this team deserves 3-0.Ever since the first test @ 214/6&27/4, Dhoni's stupid tactics and lack of urgency to grab those moments that were offered by a team that had been just beaten by NZ turned out criminal..one could see in their body language both in the Aussie team and their media (which incidentally had predicted an Ind series win ).To me,the inexplicable slump in form of Dravid after a reasonably fluent 50 in the 1st inns at Melbourne was a turning point wrt batting.Failure to motivate players,lack of passion by Dhoni is not acceptable.Being cool is ok in ODIs where you dont always need to take 10 wickets to win a match.Dhoni;s shortcomings have nakedly come out lately which was covered up conveniently when Gary was around.They say top teams learn more when winning rather than losing..For instance,Why didnt we win 2-0 against WI&Nz(2009) Sack Dhoni ASAP!

  • on January 18, 2012, 7:35 GMT

    all these media men who suggest he should retire... dude wat if someone says u have to retire bcs ur not performing ? grow up u point a finger there three at urself..... relax and njoi cricket not accuse a legend of under performing.... the man has won more tests for us than u might have written awesome articles in ur career :) Peace

  • on January 18, 2012, 7:32 GMT

    Gambir's comments didn't surprise me, the old trick still working what ganguly was doing to save his face by supporting Yuvraj. Gambhir belongs to the batsman who can't score in pacy & swinging pitches. It is disgusting to watch Gambir batting in australian pitches, like a schoolkid facing some senior fast bowlers. Laxman has to go. Indian cricket is not someone's family asset.

  • GRAMMY_SACHIN on January 18, 2012, 7:31 GMT

    ICC rankings after IND - AUS & PAV - ENG series. 1st Group:- Top 3 will be ENG, SA, AUS Next 2nd Group:- IND, PAK, SL. 3rd Group:- NZ, WI, ZIM, BAN. And this position will continue within the groups for the next 2 years. Positions within the group will be dynamic but moving out of the group (Up or Down) will be difficult

  • on January 18, 2012, 7:31 GMT

    Great Ex-Cricketer Sanjay who himself was a poor player of pace bowling on outside conditions is behind Laxman's Head.Why only Laxman Sanjay ?Why not sehwag and others.do you mean Sehwag should play till he gets old irrrespective of the form ? Illogical right ?Age is nothing to do with the form.Class is permanent.

  • HitMiss on January 18, 2012, 7:25 GMT

    The writing is on the wall.He is part of a team, and like all team players...they must put the team first...not themselves. It does not matter what u did yesterday or 2 years ago. What matters is ...are you performing rt.now?No one has a divine rt.to be on the team. The selectors should be bold enough to decide....enough is enough.But r they? Better for likes of VVS.Dravid,Sehwag,Gambhir n even Tendulkar to take a good n hard look at their performances over the last couple of years n decide to leave the international arena with their heads held high rather than be unceremoniously dropped.

  • shadabkhankhan on January 18, 2012, 7:22 GMT

    it is very clear that winning is totally depand on condition. simply in australlia they win. once they come india, we will ruin them. they can't play even a gully spin. there fast bowler can't bowl on flat track. look what happen with england agains pakistan. so all indian just cheers for your country............ we r fans our work is only backing and cheering for our players. we are blessed with great players of Spin like SRT , dravid , laxman, sehwag , dhoni. they are simply great.

  • sachin_vvsfan on January 18, 2012, 7:19 GMT

    All these so called fans who are asking for the players to retire. Please wait till April. IPL will begin shortly and enjoy the creaky shots of youngsters then.

  • HK_Sachin on January 18, 2012, 7:17 GMT

    Perhaps we need Rohit to open the batting. If Dhoni is out and Dravid to keep.

    Legends dont seem so woefully out of motivation or technique, as much as its great to "live in the present"; we need to build for the future.

  • furkhanhaq on January 18, 2012, 7:14 GMT

    Why is the ex cricketers after Laxman for failure in the Perth test. if u take the batsman of both the teams, only Warner and Cowan for Australia and Virat Kohli for India have performed . All other batsman from both sides have failed. hence like Gambhir says, all the 7 batsman must take the blame. Laxman is too good a player to retire or be dropped and he will answer all his critics in Adeliade.

  • GRAMMY_SACHIN on January 18, 2012, 7:14 GMT

    It's time Selectors & the BIG 3 + Sehwag & MSD sit together and clearly work out a road map of how to go about for the future. I am sure this will happen after the Adelaide Test. We must not change the focus even if India wins or BIG 3 contributes Big in Adelaide. The next 11 Tests are against NZ (3), Eng (4) & Aus (4) all at home. This is the best time to infuse youngsters into the team along with experience. Laxman probably should retire at the end of NZ series. Rahul probably at the end of ENG or Aus series (Home Series). Tendulkar should retire at the end of AUS series (Home Series) or assess his body & mind then and may be play another one or 2 series maximum. Bring in Rohit, Pujara & Rahane and move Sehwag to middle order. Other players like Manoj Tiwary, Uthappa, Badrinath, Raina & Yuvraj will need to keep pushing for a place in the side. Before we tour SA in 2013 Dec, we need to give atleast 10 tests each to Pujara, Rohit, Virat & Rahane

  • on January 18, 2012, 7:06 GMT

    Definitely, Gambhir raised valid points. Its been a habit of media, ex-cricketers and few people to target seniors when something bad happens. Even they should understand they also passed the same phase and they also been thrown out after that. Even some ex-cricketers when they comment, i feel like laughing. They were never be part of parmanent players, such as Akash Chopra, Nikhil Chopra, Sanjay Manjrekar etc. Non performers should go out. But not as seniors or juniors. If we consider non performers, Dhoni comes first!

  • amit.80s on January 18, 2012, 7:05 GMT

    SO if a soldier who serve his country all his life and then when its time for him be honoured with a medal and reire he get sent to a war with a walking stick in one hand and the gun in other and be expected to win and come back alive, this does'nt make sense. Same goes for our senior cricketers its time for them to call it a day or atleast take a break and play a home series and then retire on a high note. Take Ganguly example when he was going through a tough phase like Laxman he came out and annouce his retirement during Ind/Aus test series and he got out for a first ball duck in his last innings but he did'nt change his mind and bowed out with dignity and pride rather than waiting to retire on a high note and getting drop instead.

  • sachin_vvsfan on January 18, 2012, 6:58 GMT

    @ Chris Ward you are probably the only guy who thinks he is overrated. He hasn't had a good start in his career but check how he improved since 2000.Ask the might players waugh,mcgrath, warne, lee. You will find that he figured in almost all the matches that india have won/saved abroad.It isn't just the avgs but the match winning/saving knocks that will count.

  • rpoduval2000 on January 18, 2012, 6:58 GMT

    No he doesnt have the right to pick ....he has severely underperformed on the two overseas tours and this for a man who doesnt play ODI or IPL or any form of domestic cricket

  • on January 18, 2012, 6:52 GMT

    Right! Now You ( Gauti), will decide how we should think about all you guys or we should only think the way you guys want us to think. Okay.

  • on January 18, 2012, 6:51 GMT

    I have cheered the Indian team to victory in almost all Test victories India have achieved yet. I have done so much for my team. Can I please stay in the Indian team? Gautam Gambhir is speaking utter nonsense. This is a Cricket team, and what a man has done for the team in the past only matters so much. When there have been 7 consecutive defeats, bad ones at those, it shows the players lack something serious, and it is the player himself who should spare the supporters this kind of a backlash. VVS should retire, else he has to be dropped. The man is a lumbering tree trunk. He doesn't have in him left half the athleticism of Sachin or half the technique as Dravid. What annoys the cricket fan in me is that VVS has assumed it is right to hang in there, and there are some Indians who believe in age-old Indian tradition of being respectful and grateful to elderly people. Yes we have been respectful and grateful, but VVS is now taking it all for granted, and it has gone for far too long now.

  • TheArmChairCritic on January 18, 2012, 6:46 GMT

    The reactions so far by the players,selectors,officials and audience show how important the individual is rather than the game in India.It's more a reflection of the Indian society more than anything else. We are obesssed with individuals-the stardom and the associated rewards rather than the big picture. Had these been young players there was merit in arguing for an extended run.( Doubt even that would happen in India. Most of the new players who would come in would be under extreme pressure). Sorry state of affairs in Indian cricket.

  • sportofpain on January 18, 2012, 6:37 GMT

    Essentially there should be no "young person subsidy", neither should there be an "old person tax". If you perform you keep your place and the longer your track record of performances, the longer the rope you will get. So Laxman and Dravid with their stellar records deserved an extended run. If there is someone though who is better, that person should take the spot. That is the process of regeneration. In Perth during the Dravid Kohli partnership, it was painfully obvious that Kohli was the better player. The legend struggled while Kohli was looking classy. That indicates that it might be time for Dravid. Laxman too has struggled - the one thing in his favour is that he scores runs faster than Dravid so can win games for the country. But keeping him in the side might deny Rohit Sharma. It would be good to give him a decent run. The key is to give the youngsters 10 tests on the trot. A talent like Yuvraj didn't get a decent run. That mistake shouldn't be repeated.

  • cricfanraj on January 18, 2012, 6:32 GMT

    @Anwaruzz .. Great comment.Agree with every word. It is fair to critisise the dismissal performance but talking losly about the legends is very sad. And Seniors stopping youngsters is a joke. Ganguly left 3 years back and we are yet to find a replacement. Indian cap is not something available for distibution. Players should earn it with good performances.Having said that I'm not pro to continue with all senior players like this. There should be a clear plan which will allow the 3 legends to retire in span of next 2 years. Only two out of 3 should play in the test series going forward. Taking into consideration form and fitness Sachin will continue so only one of Laxman and Dravid should play in a test match.

  • on January 18, 2012, 6:32 GMT

    yea based on one series he should retire and who do you expect to take his place ???? He can play pace and bounce and exactly how many Indian bastmen are comfortable with that, in my opinion not many. Same was the case with Ganguly, when he performed after his return everyone was like Dada is the man and when he didnt perform ppl wanted him to retire. Gimme a break and this douche manjrekar didn't have a very successful career himself and who gave him authority to criticize the whole team. Let him play and give him a chance that he can retire after a big score in some match and end it on the high note than be known as someone who player for years and years but was dropped/took retirement because he couldnt perform. Laxman has earned his respect and no one has the right to decide when he should or shouldnt retire?? Its his decision and he will make it when hes comfortable with it.

  • on January 18, 2012, 6:28 GMT

    Lax is legend no doubt but why he alone. see our opening combination, no batting from top 3. it is just bad luck as all r not performing otherwise to sack Laxman is not a good decision

  • on January 18, 2012, 6:13 GMT

    as bishen sing bedi said the people who r calling for the heads of laxman,dravid or tendulkar are just 1 test wonders and they r not even having the eligibilty to tie the shoe laces of these 3 stalwarts,lets not forget 1 thing india has lost just 2 test series under dhonis captaincyso so let us be proud of our stalwarts b4 criticicing them,sachin,dravid and laxman will hang up their boots b4 we all know they r finished,so let us admire these 3 greats as long as it is possible,be human first and a proud indian to be born at a time when these 3 cricketing giants played together,if others any differents views comment plssssssssssssss

  • stFleming on January 18, 2012, 6:12 GMT

    These three aged players Sachin, Dravid and Laxman should be axed after the Australia series...They r now over 37 yrs and its difficult for them to perform consistently...They'll never announce retirement so they should be axed immediately...

  • cricconnossieur on January 18, 2012, 6:08 GMT

    Tell me which batsman in the world is comfortable playing on pacy, bouncy wickets with swing ??!!Look at the south Africans and Australians who have grown in these conditions, they were dismissed for double-digit totals very recently. Except for one innings at Sydney, the Aussies havent fared well in this series as well. Why all this panic and over reactions ?!! It all comes down having a set of quality pace bowlers who will make the difference and sadly India does not have a quality pace duo or trio at the moment..Even NZ beat Aus 3 tests ago with two good quicks. Dont pillory the batsman, just remember what happened to teams like India and England against the WI pace quartet of the 70-80s, the teams were getting consistently white-washed with innings defeats..

  • m_ilind on January 18, 2012, 6:07 GMT

    Gambhir better watch his own game, before commenting on someone, or he will be the one sitting out!

  • on January 18, 2012, 5:59 GMT

    i sympathies with Gauti for his comments. it happen in international teams when players strugles for form. What about BCCI is doing? they are also equally responsible for this debacle. They have lots of money to spend on IPL but not to make some green/hard/ bouncy wickets at home to get these players used to the conditions. They have so much of funds they can create artifical Australlia in India. I feel they are also fully responsible for the loss.

  • SamRoy on January 18, 2012, 5:56 GMT

    @Eveyone Laxman does not struggle against pace and bounce (he is the only other player apart from Sachin). It is swing which is his undoing as he doesn't move his left leg to pitch of the ball. For the first time since 1999 there is swing consistently in the Australian pitches. If there is no swing threat Laxman is an awesome player. That's why he has always failed in England and even in South Africa. In pitches where there is limited or no swing but a lot of bounce (like Durban, Barbados) he has succeeded.

  • rahulcricket007 on January 18, 2012, 5:55 GMT

    @RAJESH SAXENA . WHAT PROUD ??? AFTER LOSING 7 MATCH OVERSEAS IN WHICH 4 COME ININNINGS DEFEAT . EVEN IF INDIA MANAGES TO DRAW LAST TEST OR SOMEHOW MIRACOUSLY MANAGE TO WIN IT THEN ALSO I WILL NEVER FORGET THE HUMILATION WE SUFFRED IN AUS & ENG FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE . PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE MAIN PROBLEM WHO FORGETS THE DEFEAT SO EASLIY .

  • on January 18, 2012, 5:49 GMT

    Laxman played key role in many winning matches for example last match with srilanka in srilanka.. , against SA, against Aussies and newzeland asweelll...

  • rohjr1234 on January 18, 2012, 5:43 GMT

    Well said Mr.Gambhir.. ppl in india and around the world have to bloody blame any one person for the series loss and not the entire team.. why should LAXMAN be dropped... the man has single handedly one test matches for india.. why not drop gambhir or dhoni or sehwag for the matter.. if any one has got to go it is Dhoni.. his ODI record is outstanding but test record has been questionable for a while.. all of them have had miserable performances.. only a series ago laxman made a 175 and a few test matches later laxman is in the same stage he has been in innumerable times in his career with his ability to play cricket being questioned.. i pray to God.. , and hope he comes back with a bang in the final test just to shut the critics up.. and most of the critics have no right to call for his head as most of them havent achieved even 30% of what the man has achieved.. PEOPLE MIGHT CALL ME AS A CLASSIC CASE OF IDOL WORSHIPING, BUT IDOLS NEED TO BE WORSHIPED...

  • on January 18, 2012, 5:31 GMT

    Laxman is a superb test player!! he is very good finisher in 2nd innings... In AUS tour expectations are high on him that's people are talking like that.. come on laxman show your 2nd innings capability..

  • SRT_GENIUS on January 18, 2012, 5:26 GMT

    Fair - Players have a right to choose when to retire. Selectors have a right to choose when to drop. AFAIK, Lala Amarnath retired at 53.

  • ravi-1967 on January 18, 2012, 4:54 GMT

    I think it needs guts to be very frank and Gambhir has loads of it. Saching, Dravid and Laxman have served Indian cricket for the last 15 to 22 years and for that we need to respect them.

    Hope the people criticising them understand what it takes to play out in the heat day in and day out. They have never shown any lack of responsibility. If some one has to be blamed it has to be Sehwag who is now a liability to the team. Being out of form is one thing but trying to hit every ball is another. You play the ball to its merit and Sehwag is known not to do it whcih reflects over confidence and arrogance.

  • Anwaruzz on January 18, 2012, 4:53 GMT

    SHOW SOME RESPECT GUYS !! Sachin, Dravid and Laxman are living legends and they have done so much for Indian Cricket for years. Maybe, this trip will be their swansong, they also can read the writting on the wall. It pains me reading the disrespectful comments about. Let's tell them THANK YOU. The onus is now on them to leave with self repect and be eternal true legends.

  • kikump on January 18, 2012, 4:53 GMT

    See England's fate against Pakistan. The No. 1 test team doesn't know how to handle good spin bowling. We had glimpses of that when they toured India. They failed to negotiate a young spin attack. Its all about conditions. Every team is suffering in non-home conditions.

  • Yolk_Eater on January 18, 2012, 4:52 GMT

    for all those who say that who the hell is gambhir to say that laxman should decide when to retire, please note that he uses the word retire. Not dropped. Ofcourse Laxman can be dropped, but to suggest that he will retire after this series by some bcci officials or media is plainly pathetic. Show some respect guys.

  • on January 18, 2012, 4:36 GMT

    I am in complete agreement with Gambhir, no single person should be blamed, its only a team that is responsible for defeat or a victory. Here our batsmen have been completely under some kind of pressure, its strange that none of them is firing. There has never been such a ugly lookout since past 3-4 years. The only time this started is after Duncan Fletcher replaced Gary Kirsten. Not sure, but coach is equally responsible for the teams performance along with the Captain Dhoni.

  • mycommentz on January 18, 2012, 4:34 GMT

    iam with ghambir.why singleout laxman??what abt tendulkar n others??reality is tht instead of wishing india to win the series we wnt tendulkar to score hs !00th ton.v giv mre importance to individual performance then the total outcome.to me dravid n laxman r the unsung heroes of indian cricket fr the last 10 years.they r always prepared to play the 2nd fiddle inspite of sme remakable match winning or saving innings

  • on January 18, 2012, 4:08 GMT

    Laxman is frighteningly overrated. Give Paul Collingwood 133 tests and he's have had a comparable record yet no one is calling him an all time great.

  • on January 18, 2012, 4:07 GMT

    Lakshman's record in swinging conditions betray his record outside India. In England, his record has been poor. In NZ, it is decent because they swing it with no pace. Combine pace and swing and laxman is walking wicket

  • Romenevans on January 18, 2012, 4:05 GMT

    Sunil Gavaskar and Kapil Dev and many others were also the legend of Indian Cricket, should we also call them back? How about calling Sameer Dighe, Nayan Mongia and Vijay Dhahiya as a W/K batsman for non performing Dhoni? Should we call them back too? Gambhir is just trying to gimmick and hiding his own poor performances to save his place.

  • FatBoysCanBat on January 18, 2012, 4:03 GMT

    @DeeSharma007: It is not only the Indian batting line-up who "struggle against real pace, swing & bounce." I'm pretty sure every batting line-up struggles against quick bowling which moves off the straight. @Vinayak Gadekar: I think Sachin and Kohli have had good series but agree with you that Srikkanth needs to be replaced.

  • on January 18, 2012, 4:03 GMT

    I have been saying this for a long time now: If the players are above 30, it is time for them to go. The entire Indian should be recalled, cancel all the matches, concede, and start with fresh 18-20 year old folks. The current team is highly overpaid, achieved nothing, and have become arrogant, rude and toxic. They should return all their money, and take a hike to Kashi or somewhere in Himalaya to think and contemplate. It is too embarrassing to hear them come up with some asinine excuses for their failure. If an ordinary fellow shows this degree of productivity, he would be fired in a heart beat. So let SD, MD, RD, VS, GG, VVHL, and their cohorts go. Let them score centuries for some highschool team. Let them find out a way to pay their 100 million rupee insurance policy. May be then they will understand the anger and frustrations of an ordinary person walking on the street.

  • mrgupta on January 18, 2012, 4:01 GMT

    @ Ravin Dias: It appears that you have been sleeping since long time and have suddenly woken up. Laxman did it in SA but who was the Top scorer from Indian side in SA, the one who saved the 3rd test and almost saved the 1st test, scored 2 centuries against world's best bowling? Dravid did it in Eng, what did he do? Which test did he save? Any idea who was the second best Indian scorer in Eng? Any Idea who was the top Indian batsmen in WC2011 which India won? Any idea who is the leading scorer from India in the current series? Find the answer to these questions and you will understand what you have missed while you were asleep.

  • kv_aneesh on January 18, 2012, 4:01 GMT

    @Ravin Dias "Sachin was given enough chances to get the 100th hundred,since world cup" LOL...Joke of the century. I am curious to know who did that courtesy to Sachin.

  • Nandha80 on January 18, 2012, 3:59 GMT

    No one need to retire... its all because of the coach guys... John Wright (01-05) we did great; Greg Chappel (05-07) we were terrible; Gary Kirsten (07-11) fantastic; Dunken Flecher (11-??) we'll be bad till then...

  • shantiratnamaj on January 18, 2012, 3:51 GMT

    these comments by Gambir shows how they think they are bigger than the game. People want Laxman to retire because he has performed badly and should be the first person to give way to the next best person knocking the door. Everyone is a legend in India. Oh god take a break man, do you know the meaning of legend?

  • SanjivAwesome on January 18, 2012, 3:48 GMT

    One under-performer defending another.

  • sandunk on January 18, 2012, 3:45 GMT

    All anti-Tendulkar opinions, read facts first. Even in this series, he is the top scorer for the team, with best average. Granted his runs & avg. isnt' up to his standards but its still better than the rest, so why should be be the first to be dropped. If it was not for his 100th century, no one would talk about this, but of course now all have a reason to cling on to. Like it or not, he is still the best indian batsman on current form even after 20 years of cricket.

  • Rakesh_Sharma on January 18, 2012, 3:38 GMT

    Laxman,Gambir,Dravid and Tendulkar cannot retire. They all must be axed out. Period.These are greedy cricketers who will play till the age of 50.In India basically in a span of 25 years there are only 6 spots for other upcoming players out of population of 1.2 billion. In countries with negligible pool of cricket followers like Australia,England ,NZ players keep on retiring. If logic of Gambir had to work. Steve waugh,Mark Waugh,Mark Taylor, Mcgrath,Gavaskar,Greg Chappel,Rod Marsh, Lillie Richards,Greenidge,Marshall could have played 5 to 10 years more.Forget about age , if even after playing for 20 years if these players does not want to quit than it shows extreme greediness.Even in normal jobs slightly above average employee leaves the job to try something different.All the best sportsman retire early once they achieve things. One wonders why they are dragging on?

  • Street_Hawk on January 18, 2012, 3:33 GMT

    @Mr. Gambhir: Laxman had the right to call it quits but he has lost that right...let's face it..if this was the performance of Manoj Tiwary would you let him carry on? He could score a century given enough opportunity like Ricky Ponting...but this way you lose all the honor you have earned over time..You don't need other people to tell when to quit for players like Gilchrist, Warne, McGrath, Gavaskar, Lara who knows when to call it a day..remember when these players retired they were in their best form and could have easily played for another year or two (esp. warne, McGrath, Gili)..but they did not wanted to continue to earn Board money or to build unbreakable records

  • on January 18, 2012, 3:29 GMT

    Laxman can decide when he wants to retire but the selectors should decide whether or not he is selected for Adelaide. Batsmen are not 'forced to retire'...they are just dropped and if they think they can make it back in the team, they should not retire.

  • on January 18, 2012, 3:06 GMT

    It is the moral responsibility, of sachin, dravid and vvs to retire. rather than wait and get ill treated later

  • world.cricketer on January 18, 2012, 2:45 GMT

    @rapidchase88 if rohit get a chance then who will keep......dravid hehe

  • AjayB on January 18, 2012, 2:43 GMT

    For a lot of fans criticizing this statement, try to understand what he said. "Only Laxman has the right to decide when to retire". That is entirely correct. He is not saying, do not drop him, or that Laxman has not done poorly. With all due respect, of all those posting the comments, I do not even know how many can see their own toes, leave alone touch them standing up. When a solid hard cherry comes at you at 140 kph, I would love to see how many can stay there like a man. Laxman has done it for India, day in and day out. He is a fellow telugu and I am proud of him. I am also glad to see so many people backing what Gautam said because that is what being a sports person is. You back your team mates. I hate to say this, but Manjrekar should probably tone down his criticism. His career ended in Australia and I can visualize him relishing the prospect of at least someone following his path. True, our team is failing and we all feel bad, but bickering and in-fighting is not going to help.

  • maxz on January 18, 2012, 2:42 GMT

    typical Indian cricket. let the man decide

  • world.cricketer on January 18, 2012, 2:40 GMT

    @Ravin Dias ur not foling test matches have u forgot sachin 146 againt SA in last jan against toughest bowling and also his 241 in aus and there are so many other knocks have not watched sehwag has given many good starts to INDIA sachin runs and avg is more in wins and draws than dravid and laxman about Dhoni he is not a test batman but good ODI captain and batsmen

  • DebashisCalcutta on January 18, 2012, 2:35 GMT

    I think the reason that Gambhir is taking Laxman's side is to shield himself, so that next time people don't ask for him to be dropped. I have not seem any cricketer retiring gracefully - barring Gavaskar , even Kapil was given chance after chance to break Hadlee's record , the hero worship is not new , it has been and will be there in our culture , at the cost of team fortunes .

  • on January 18, 2012, 2:28 GMT

    Indians (including the author here) just love these words"Legend", "God", "Great". Well, the reality is all these senior batsmen are ordinary players with average batting talents; who have been allowed to play for so long due to Indian's habit of idolizing cricketers and spineless selectors, born in any other country none of them would have played more than 70-80 tests. Any player in the world if allowed to play so long on such easy home conditions would have made all these records which their career boost of. None of them come close to Lara in terms of natural talent or Steve Waugh and many other aussies in terms of actually winning matches.

  • on January 18, 2012, 2:19 GMT

    Why are we so eager to shame our team when they are losing. Comments like those of some earlier players- notably Mr. Gavaskar- are a disgrace.Yes we lost. So is the earth coming crashing down on us? If you criticise be constructive. Look at the howl about including younger players. Has everybody forgotten the last 2 overseas tours? In the West Indies, there was no Sehwag, Gambhir, Tendulkar. Did any younger player make a mark. Again in England these three were missing most of the time. So where did we find replacements. What happened to Murli Vijay, Suresh Raina, Yuvraj , Rehane et al.

    Just accept that Australian bowling was too good for us in their conditions and try to rectify this weakness by providing similar conditions at home . Blame the BCCI not the players who inspite of what Mr. Gavaskar thinks, are doing their best.

  • sanjusujju on January 18, 2012, 2:13 GMT

    well said gautam. Laxman has been all time greats for India.He has been instrumental in India ascending to no. 1 position, albeit briefly in tests. His failures during the last 2 overseas tours led to disastrous results, indicating how heavily Indian test batting line is reliant on Laxman ( along with dravid). More than 90% of the positive results for India in tests have come from either Laxman or dravid leading the batting over the years. statgurus check. What has been disheartening most is the lack of fight during these tours and very rightly, Dhoni has accepted the blame for this; His "cool attitude" does not always work, as Indian players are not as professional as aussies or SA. They get complacent and overconfident too easily and they should be given the stick sometimes as used to happen when ganguly was the captain. I take this chance to also mention that Dinesh Kartik is not being handled very well; I see no reason why Saha or Parthiv Patel should be considered ahead of h

  • Marcio on January 18, 2012, 2:12 GMT

    The Indian players are trying their best at any given moment. However the problem is that they are hopelessly under-prepared, and just haven't done their homework. Australia have outplayed and outsmarted them in every department. Just look at the fielding. Australia's has been superb. India's has been simply awful. When Australia bowl they have a definite plan, and follow through, and don't lose heart when things don't go well for a few hours. India just fall in a heap! This is the result of lazy arrogance. India and its public went into a delusion about its cricket team, and started believing its own propaganda. There is a saying in sport: "Nothing breeds failure like success". India got sloppy. Real sloppy. Now they are getting thrashed.

  • agupta429 on January 18, 2012, 1:57 GMT

    Indian team always performs when they think they have something to prove to the Indian audience.. which is why you will find them losing the firsst match and then trying their best and win/draw the rest.

    This time the World cup victory has given them a HUGEEEEE Cushion, which is only now showing signs of being crushed.

    Let foreigners say what they want, As Indians we need to continue supporting them.

  • hnlns on January 18, 2012, 1:56 GMT

    Gambhir's defence of VVS is understandable, given the fact that both of them are in the same boat. This kind of defence sounds very hollow, especially when someone keeps getting out in the same fashion and does very poorly in critical aspects of test cricket, batting, fielding, and running between the wickets. Indian selectors have to tell these gentleman very politely and privately what their fixed retirement date is and get on with rebuilding the team from scratch.

  • AvidCricFan on January 18, 2012, 1:47 GMT

    No one can force VVS to retire. However, selection committee has right to not select him. Now talking of performance, the entire top order needs blame. But right now the weakest link(s) need to be fixed. VVS at the moment is the weakest link followed by Gambhir, Shewag and Dhoni. All have lackluster three series in a row. There is no sympathy from fans when extravagantly paid players don't provide average performance in 7 games in a row against decent opposition.

  • Pradeep_Dash40 on January 18, 2012, 1:41 GMT

    No, I do not think anyone can take his place on a naional team for granted and decide on retirement on his own. To get that respect, one has to keep playing well. As Sunil Gavaskar said before his retirement "You should retire when people are asking why now, not when they start asking why not now?" Laxman missed his opportunity to retire gloriously. Now he has to go ingloriously. It is hard but that is what it is.

  • knockitdown on January 18, 2012, 1:40 GMT

    If Laxman has right to decide when he wants to retire then people have right to criticize and I think to knock down comments you got to perform & shut their mouth up...With such a strong batting line up one don't expect this in all 3 matches..

    Players need to welcome criticism and work hard on their performance to justify their role in the game! & to be there in team!!

  • on January 18, 2012, 1:23 GMT

    VVS has always been at his best against austrailia.. it seems this time he has no luck at all.. Indian batting is going through the toughest times of all.. The first thing India needs is a fast bowler who can bowl over 160kph or atleast over 150 kph. Umesh yadav is believed to be the fastest bowler in Indian..and he has done exceptionally well.. we need another bowler like him- a new face in the squad.

  • on January 18, 2012, 1:21 GMT

    @Ravin Dias.. you do realise that sachin is the top run getter for India in this series right.. before you blast off on someone, I suggest you look into stats first. Also I agree with Gambhir... these people have done so much for the game.. it is unfair to base your argument on something like form. Form doesn't have anything to with age and true masters of game have proved it time and again...

  • vineetkarthi on January 18, 2012, 1:07 GMT

    Gambhir has got it wrong - all that Indian fans are saying is that non-performers should be dropped. Retirement is, of course, a personal decision. Many cricketers who were not picked in the team did not retire for a long time. Did not change anything... Also, sadly, in the noise surrounding Laxman's selection (or non-selection) has drowned out a greater and infinitely more legitimate demand - DROP DHONI from the test team.

  • only_sehwag on January 18, 2012, 0:46 GMT

    Spot on Gambhir !! spot on !! Oh, how dearly manjrekar must have been waiting for this day ever since he was kicked out...the true cricket fans have not forgotten the contribution of laxman and dravid..feel sorry for the IPL generation who never got to see real cricket...

  • on January 18, 2012, 0:37 GMT

    Well said Gautam. This is typical from the Indian press, Neither Sachin Tendulkar nor Virender Sehwag (flat track bully) or Rahul Dravid havet been setting the Aussie summer on fire so why crucify only VVS. Collectively the whole batting unit (currently the most experienced/most runs in the world) has failed and everyone should take responsibility over this dismal performance.

  • on January 18, 2012, 0:13 GMT

    @ Ravin Dias: Which test match did Dravid win u in England? It was a damn whitewash! Talking about South Africa, wasn't it Tendulkar who set up the test matches for India with 2 hundreds against Dale Steyn & Co.?? Also, BCCI is not 'letting' Tendulkar play so he can get his 100th hundred...Tendulkar is still playing because he still is the best batsman in the Indian Team!! No other batsman in the whole team has looked comfortable playing Pattinson & co in this series apart from SRT. So let's talk about non performers!

  • VickGower on January 18, 2012, 0:07 GMT

    Gambhir is somewhat disingenuous in pulling Dhoni in without making an appropriate distinction. At least Dhoni keeps, and keeps rather well. What do the top 6 do aside from flop batting? And whereas the domestic circuit has batsmen who average 50+, where is a keeper who keeps well and bats better than Dhoni as well?

  • JustIPL on January 17, 2012, 23:49 GMT

    These seniors would have retired long ago if experiments against west indies before england series and the current series would have been successful. The problem was the bench strength looked average on both the occasions with rohit bailing out on numerous occasions. The talk of getting rid of the seniors as endorsed by dhoni is useless as new blood has not made much of the difference so far.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 17, 2012, 23:37 GMT

    If at all any player needs to be dropped it is Sachin. He hasn't won or saved any test for us in a while. Even on a personal front it's been more than an year since he scored a century in test matches. On the other hand VVS has won or saved tests for us in SA, West Indies and in India as well in the last one year. Of course, Dhoni should go first and then Sachin.

  • IndiaKoBuchhoe on January 17, 2012, 23:31 GMT

    Its beyond changing anybody - 7 away games - 7 comprehensive results. The players, BCCI and the countless committees, countless selectors and coaching staff. Let them all stay. No one else should ever be allowed in the mix. Keep the same team until they are bed ridden. Heck, leaders in the Middle East don't retire. Lets keep everyone in Indian Criket the same. They do their country proud. And make sure that tere is NO DRS - any umpiring error can only work in favour of the ever green team. GO INDIA, GO INDIA JAYHO JAYHO HAYHO JAYHO.

  • the_blue_android on January 17, 2012, 23:27 GMT

    If every player is given an option to play as long they feel like, we would still have Paaji and Sunny playing cricket.

  • nyroot on January 17, 2012, 23:21 GMT

    I just can't believe why only VVS is targeted? He was a nightmare for Australians thru out his career and for one time he failed, look what kind of response he is getting? We are living in a MEAN WORLD !!

  • ChuckyDoll on January 17, 2012, 23:21 GMT

    That "Laxman can stay as long as he wants".... is the most immature statement that Gambhir has made. Is he out of his mind ? Has he not recovered from his concussion yet ? Sehwag is another nuisance. I have watched all the 3 Tests so far and it is evident even to a layman like me that Australia have done their homework for *EACH* Indian batsmen. Did you see how many times did they square up Gambhir ? Did you see how easy it was to get Sehwag out ........ just pitch outside and swing it away and Sehwag will poke! They even did their homework in Dravid I feel..... which was the most amazing (but painful) thing to watch. I say for Adelaide, rest Zaheer and Yadav and play 2 spinners. That's our best chance to get the opposition out. If we cannot out-pace them, slow them down.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 17, 2012, 23:15 GMT

    Over the last 12 months, VVS played innings of consequence against SA, in Windies and against Windies in India. Failed in England after being pushed to no.3, many thanks to Sachin. So, basically this is VVS' first series failure. Look at Sachin - threw Unadkat in front of Steyn and Morkel after getting to an inconsequential 50th century, didn't tour Windies, relaxed at Wimbledon, vacations at will, failed in England, failed against Windies at home and now failed against Australia. He should be the first peson that needs to be dropped after Dhoni. Sehwag should be third in line. No, India can't drop Sachin. That would be an insult to the tag that he is the all time 'best' batsman, I mean better than Bradman. What a poor joke! We are just seeing a game of inflated egos and easy scapegoats being run by BCCI, not a good game of cricket. Technically, this series is VVS's first failure. Can't say the same about Dhoni and Sachin. I don't care when these players retire. They should be dropped.

  • on January 17, 2012, 23:13 GMT

    Oh dear, Gautam Ghambhir is obviously still suffering from the concussion he got at the Oval last summer. Surely for somebody that hasn't scored a test century for two years (to the day I might add), he would be better off if Laxman retired tomorrow. It may be the only way to keep his place in the team.

  • on January 17, 2012, 23:08 GMT

    my 11 would be 1.Gautam 2.Sehwag 3.Dravid 4.Tendulkar 5.Laxman 6.RG Sharma 7.Dhoni 8.Ashwin 9.Zaheer 10.Ishant 11.Umesh and don't keep nightwatchmen they are useless

  • IndiaKoBuchhoe on January 17, 2012, 23:03 GMT

    Its refreshing to hear that Gambhir is admitting to failure and also admitting that the top order has been failing in a consistent fashion. After This team holds an unblemished record away for comrehensive losses - 100%. Every single match in the last two tours has been nothing short of disgraceful performances - and that too failure by the team's suppossed stregnths - its batting. Gambhir is correct that VVS should not be singled out. Its high time that gross changes are made and that many of the players are forced to retire and others including Gambhior dropped on the basis of poor performance. In the corporate world the players would all be placed on a performance improvement program at best and likely be terminated for incompetence. After 3 failures you're out not after 7. Are these guys not professionals? The new team for ADL should be: Pujara, Sehwag, Rehane, Kholi, R Sharma, Raina, Uthappa, Yusef Pathan, I Sharm, Yadav, and Aaron. Its probably time to change India's whole setup

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 17, 2012, 23:01 GMT

    Guys, VVS has done well in SA winning a match for us, Windies and in India against Windies. Dravid has done well up until Windies and you have to cut him some slack for the first test at MCG. You can't succeed in every test. So, Dravid basically failed in two tests. No big deal. Gambhir saved us in the final test against SA. Failed in England and got injured as well in England. Didn't play well against Windies. Sehwag has been failing consistently from as far as I can remember. What about Sachin? Made a 50th century and let Unadkat face chin music from Steyn and Morkel, took 'leave' to be at Wimbledon, didn't go to Windies, failed in England, failed against Windies at home and now failed against Australia. That's three failures in a row and enjoying vacations at will. If at all anybody needs to go, it is Dhoni first, then Sachin and then Sehwag. Very unfair to target VVS. VVS failure in England is a result of sending him at no.3 knowing that he isn't a good front foot player.

  • Gattu.Vinod on January 17, 2012, 22:55 GMT

    India was winning a test in recent years because LAXMAN, was scoring runs.Suddenly Laxman is not scoring runs and India is feeling the heat.Currently,Rahane,Rohit and Kohli are not the kind of players who can win a test ...I dont think so, they still need a lot of time.

    Laxman, is still one of the greatest test player.My advice for VVS will be to work on his fitness.

  • on January 17, 2012, 22:53 GMT

    Even mightiest elephant can be taken down by cluster of ants ... purely because of focus, dedication, team work and intent... Fundamental issue that is currently plaguing Indian Team is lack of motivation, team spirit and killer instinct to do something.. We Indians are psychologically are weak and once we start to collapse, we as a team collectively collapse... Coach makes lot of difference in pushing team players to edge, pumping them, putting the right ingredients ..Coach is not just meant to technically guide but, contribute more .. i do understand eventually it boils down to Individual team member when is in the center of the ground.. but... coach guidance will help to make a difference ..

    Address the root cause, and not try to flush people thinking problem is addressed .. it is NOT...

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 17, 2012, 22:52 GMT

    Drop both of them. Play Rahane or Ashwin as an opener. Give a chance to Rohit in place of LAX. Even if he scores only 10 runs, it will be 10 more than LAX can score. Unfortunately we can't drop Viru bcoz he will be acting captain. Also drop over-hyped Ishant and give a chance to Ojha. Send the old geezers to retirement homes. They don't belong here. 10dulkar needs to be on a rocking chair in his mult-million dollar bungalow. Dravid needs to go read some stories to his grandkids. This is No game for old men.

  • DeeSharma007 on January 17, 2012, 22:36 GMT

    Lets just face it, Laxman & co struggle against real pace, swing & bounce. The Indian batsmen are so used to slower pitches on the sub continent that they struggle in such conditions. At home India are as formidable as any top test team and would really push SA, AUS and Eng. I would like to see some of the younger Indian players take positions at English counties to gain experience, similar to when Zaheer Khan reinvented himself after a short spell in English cricket. Im sure Kohli, Sharma and a few other up and coming batsmen would benefit playing on surfaces that test their technical ability.

  • on January 17, 2012, 22:19 GMT

    If any 3 guys should be dropped from the Indian side.Sachin, sewag and Dhoni.Non of these guys have saved or won a test for India for a while.Laxman did it in SA.Dravid did it in Eng.Both they are the one's who are under the gun all the time. Sachin was given enough chances to get the 100th hundred,since world cup.Now it is his time to go.Sewag is not that good against short ball.Dhoni and sewag should play one days and sachin should be drop from both forms. Rohith shama and rahane should def come back to the team.Rohit should olay in both forms f cricket in the place of Sachin.Praveen Kumar,the best Indian bowler,Where is he? He should def play.Him not playing is crazy.

  • nyc_missile on January 17, 2012, 22:16 GMT

    Not a problem,surely will do..so please,can all 6 of you excluding Kohli step down as a unit.. ;) Not sure why he got that impression but there in India,its Dhoni& the batsmen getting the flak,Laxman is always a soft target as Ganguly said and its very unfair to single him out especially when the hit/miss Sehwag has failed in three successive(okay 2&half) away tours SA,Eng &Aus.And Gambhir himself has been struggling in ALL formats not just tests both HOME & AWAY.To me the first one ideally to go should be Dhoni,as Ian Chappell very rightly said,he is a liability in the test team..

  • on January 17, 2012, 21:59 GMT

    Dravid proved himself in england...and sachin everyone knows...they should go but some respect...bcoz they done a lot for the team and youngsters also need time to get mature...anyone think that with rahne rohit badrinath kholi they can win test matches with out dravid sachin sehwag vvs ...I really don't think so...atleast there should be some mixture of young and experts...and about dravid and sachin whole world knows that what is there class...I still respect then legends ...

  • on January 17, 2012, 21:54 GMT

    Well said..We all are with you Gambhir...Keep up the good spirit and hope you all will do wonders in the last test and make everyone proud. Guys,it takes guts to speak up like this..Dhoni never said such things instead he says they will look to fade off legends.Skill is nothing to do with age and is has to do with performance and experience...Many have proved that including Punter recently..India never did well overseas in the past so why should we blame them now.As I said before and saying again I will be proud if we win one test there..We are not used to bouncy pitches..just face the truth..it is the reality..Yes we should give chance to youngsters but I am sure they are not ripe yet...Let them see the seniors and learn how painful is it...Cricket is not easy...We want legends to stay. Period.

  • on January 17, 2012, 21:51 GMT

    Gambhir should worry about his own form and his place in the Indian team rather than defending Laxman !! Nothing more than 'toothless tigers'. As many have said herre, all the 7 batsmen should be shown the door. Also add Srikkanth to it !!!!

  • bombay4u on January 17, 2012, 21:49 GMT

    The best way to motivate players and also compansate them is to have thier contracts with incentives and clauses for base salary + extra money if they take catches/make runs or cause runout or play outstanding ( where stats are not that great).For example a century means extra 10k in players pocket and 5 wks the same.50 or heigher score would qualify for some incentive also. This will motivate players to do thier best as it involves making extra money and the insentive can be extended to coaches, groundsman etc and they can be tailored differently for each team. In USA most of the profesional sports already have this in place so its about time there is something we learn from them

  • on January 17, 2012, 21:48 GMT

    (R)etire (I)n (P)eace. Please don't chase personal goals. Cricket is a team game.

  • spinkingKK on January 17, 2012, 21:47 GMT

    My 11 for Adelaide is: Ashwin, Rahane, Dravid, Tendulkar, Kohli, Rohit, Sehwag, Saha, Yadav, Ojha, Zaheer.

  • 12thman on January 17, 2012, 21:45 GMT

    So OK we will drop you and open with Sehwag and Laxman ?

  • r1m2 on January 17, 2012, 21:35 GMT

    Okay I think Laxman needs to step down on his own accord (fake an injury or something) then retire after the final test. If not, he should be dropped (with a fake suspicion of an injury) then not selected for the team again. He did well while he played, he should've played more, but such was his luck (and we are poorer for it). But its the right time for him to go. He has nothing more to prove, and there's no point in delaying his departure anymore. He'll be remembered as the one man who stood in the way of one of the greatest team in the history of cricket. Not a single one of us posting comments here I think can find another single batsman, who has singlehandedly taken on the greatest bowling line up, and the greatest team in the world. Laxman you rule, but please step down now, so you can be worshipped instead of staying past your due date and be vilified for it. I for one, would hate to see that happen.

  • JG2704 on January 17, 2012, 21:35 GMT

    I'm sorry but it seems like Mr GG is talking like Indian players are an endangered species and should be protected. "He has been a legend of the game. He has served Indian cricket for a long, long time " is tantamount to saying that any batsman who has performed well in the past should be exempt from criticism. Maybe this is why the selectors are reluctant to make any changes - too much player power? To be fair not one of the Indian batsmen has done themselves justice in this series and only Dravid did himself full justice in England.Tendulkar has made alot of starts but seems to have lost the ability to convert those starts into big scores and as others have pointed out VVS,Gambhir himself and Sehwag have been poor recently. I suppose none of these players want to go out on a bad run of form but by keeping some of these players in for too long is just going to start tarnishing their legacy further.

  • sk12 on January 17, 2012, 21:28 GMT

    Laxmans' just a case of bad form, and he never played the moving ball well anyway.. same with Sehwag. They shld be back to normal once they return back. Dravid's the person who gotto retire, he has certainly slowed down and gets into awkward positions. pretty sure he realized this and would retire at end of the series.

  • on January 17, 2012, 21:25 GMT

    I agree with Aditya. It is not a matter of retirement but a matter of dropping consistently underperforming and aging cricketer. If they do not go out on their own and pave way to talented youngsters (who need time to settle) they should be pushed out. Lax had his marvelous times but past remains past and glorious memories do not win matches or help build a strong young team.

  • on January 17, 2012, 21:19 GMT

    I agree...Laxman is legend of the game. But i think its time that he retire gracefully before being dropped. He served for long enough time. He failed in England and Australia as well. And he didnt even look good while he was playing.

  • spinkingKK on January 17, 2012, 21:19 GMT

    I am one of the mad fans of Laxman. However, I am not that mad to suggest that he should be retained. True, you can't make someone retire. I beleive he should be dropped. We need to move on with young players. Otherwise, Rohit Sharma will be retiring soon!! Gambhir is taking the attention away from his own dismal performance by talking about Laxman. Purely on what we have seen at the crease, it is Gambhir and Sehwag who should be dropped before Laxman. They never looked like they can hold the bat. However, their age is on their side and Laxman's fitness also is a big problem. Anyway, whatever happens happens. If Laxman is retained for Adelaide, I will only be happy that I can see my idol bat one more time.

  • on January 17, 2012, 21:09 GMT

    Oh no Mr Gambhir. When do not perform and fail innnings after innings and in your case do not know how to play genuine pace - you got to go. Remeber we pay you guys. Cricket is not like in the old days. We are tough-perform or pack your bags.

  • inswing on January 17, 2012, 21:05 GMT

    The selectors certainly have a right to decide who will play and who will not, if you refuse to retire after your time has passed. Aging players feel mentally the same, and hence never want to retire. Ganguly had to be thrown out kicking and screaming. It would be much better if Laxman and Dravid were to retire gracefully instead of being "defiant". And it would be good if Ishant was dropped for a year or two so he can get more coaching.

  • johnathonjosephs on January 17, 2012, 21:02 GMT

    Apart from that half century in the 1st match, Sachin did not do anything and the same goes for Dravid. Dhoni has not done ANYTHING on the tour so far (and the other recent tours) and should NOT be in Test Cricket. When will BCCI realize that winning a T20 and ODI world cup and continuously doing horrible in Tests doesn't mean you should be in Tests.

  • on January 17, 2012, 20:57 GMT

    You are practicing censorship. You only post nice, decorous and bland comments. Typical of colonials who are afraid of the harsh truth. You are loike the "vultures" who are after VVS, FORGETTING TOO SOON THE CONTRIBUTIONS HE HAS MADE.

  • on January 17, 2012, 20:56 GMT

    This is the time we should all support Team INDIA. Seems like we always support them when they are doing good, but in their bad times we are on their necks. This is not being a true fan. A true fan must always be with their team in any crisis. And Mr Mangreker you should keep your comments to yourself. You were technically a very good batsman but Lasted or did anything for the team. These senior players are the ones that gave Team India the No. 1 test team, whereas our former players who were losing on consistent basis.

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 17, 2012, 20:52 GMT

    One loser defending another. Neither one knows where his off stump is. Both need to be dropped. Why should they get chance after chance, ahead of Rahane and Rohit Sharma? What's wrong with trying other promising batsmen like Manish Pandey and Robin Uthappa. This is not state govt job where you retire at the age of 60.

  • Naikan on January 17, 2012, 20:37 GMT

    It is not as if VVS has failed abjectly. Just the last series he was instrumental in winning two of the tests! Merit should be the only criteria - whatever the age of the person. There has been a lot of noise since last few years asking the oldies to retire. Stats Guru shows that over the last Four years all the oldies have maintained a batting average of 45+. Where as other than Yuvraj (Average =38) not a single of the new players who got their chances have managed an average of above 31.0! That includes: Raina, Kohli, Pujara, Mukund, Badrinath, M Vijay, Karthik, Jaffer, etc. Youngsters should learn to take their chances when they get them! The real reason for our problem is the bowling. All the Aussie batsmen were struggling before this series and now they plundered. England scored runs by the ton against Indian bowling and now they could not touch 200 against Pakistan! In last 3 years no Indian bowler has an average of less than 25. Every team has at least 2 bowlers managing that!

  • on January 17, 2012, 19:42 GMT

    And the reason.., why Gambhir is my favorite cricketer....

  • nimma09231218 on January 17, 2012, 19:38 GMT

    I would agree with Karthik Reddy... as matter this is the time to test out the bench strength

  • on January 17, 2012, 19:34 GMT

    Well said Gautam.. He (gautam) always speak like a leader Unlike opportunist Dhoni. The Talent is not deteriorated in Indian team, they were doing good even before WC win, but the only thing i guess Indian team missing is a great coach like Gary Kirsten.. Iam not blaming Fletcher for indian defeats overseas, but i guess , there is something he is unable to provide to this same indain team hwo were playing like a dream team a year ago under Gary Kirsten.I beleive, only captain and coach can inculcate the will and determination to fight against the odds in the minds of the players when they were lacking it. I beleive this indian team has enough talent to putup fight against any team, any where .. But they require driving force..

  • Nampally on January 17, 2012, 19:33 GMT

    Of all the Indian Batsmen, only Tendulkar batted confidently & scored well in all but the Perth Test whilst Kohli scored only in the Perth Test.Other batsmen lacked confidence. So dropping anyone of other 5 to make room for Rohit Sharma is 100% justified.Yet Fletcher & Dhoni are refusing to include Rohit Sharma in the batting line up. Why? Do they want India to fail again? Rohit & Kohli are the future of the Indian batting. They should have played in all 4 Tests to give them experience to take over the roles of the Seniors.Now after being totally out played by the Aussies in 3 Tests, here we are still justifying failures instead of fitting in right batsmen to do the job. Dhoni will be out of the line up & Saha moves in as WK. Ashwin will replace Vinay. Rohit Sharma should replace Laxman, just based on ability & form. Sure, Laxman & all seniors have the right to Retire when they wish. But for Adelaide test,with the current batting, Fletcher & Dhoni MUST NOT keep Rohit out of the XI.

  • on January 17, 2012, 19:30 GMT

    Selectors exercise their right to pick players based on their performance; by that virtue don't they also reserve the right to drop players for performance - i.e Non-performance?

  • on January 17, 2012, 19:23 GMT

    Very Very Special Lakshman -- Let him play the Adelaide Test. If he fails there (I hope not), then he may decide to retire. It is sad to see him not do well in Australia. He has always done well here before....He is due a big score.

    Please drop Sehwag. He does not seem to care about the team. Only a fool will expect to keep slashing his bat and not expect to be out within the first few overs.

  • srisri on January 17, 2012, 19:20 GMT

    Too sad ICC rule bans only the captain due to slow over rate... it would have been wonderful if the whole team is banned and we got some new youngsters to play.

  • starvoyager on January 17, 2012, 19:09 GMT

    Finally some response from the Indian team to the poisonous and shortsighted nonsense that has been floating around in the past few days. Am glad the team takes responsibility as a unit. I would only bring in Saha for Dhoni and Ashwin for Vinay Kumar in Adelaide. Post that, instead of looking to throw out our best Test players and leave the youngsters without their experience, I would keep the seniors on for another 2 years, but rotate them. Say 2 out of the 3 big guns selected for a Test series and in some Tests of that series, play with just one of them, especially if the young batsmen coming in are doing well. Something similar with Zaheer Khan also. The problem with us Indians is that we love finding scapegoats and getting rid of them, because we are too lazy to try and get to the core issues behind the problem.

  • Chaitanyark on January 17, 2012, 19:03 GMT

    I read somewhere that Tendulkar was asked by BCCI to play the WI series to get that elusive 100th 100 but he refused because he didn't want to risk an injury. Now, if he feels he cannot last a series without getting himself injured, does he deserve to be in the team? Is he bigger than the game to pick or refuse to play a series as per his whims and fancies? Why does Tendulkar still play in IPL if wants to avoid injuries playing insignificant series? It's not that I hate Tendulkar, it's just that I feel it's wrong to make Laxman a scapegoat for every series we lose. I think Laxman should play the Adelaide just to help him redeem his lost pride. I think we Indian's owe it to him for all the matched he has won for India. And then the phasing out of seniors should begin as India don't play a away series till 2013. It will give the incoming youngsters sufficient time and confidence to face the music...

  • Apurwa047 on January 17, 2012, 19:01 GMT

    Gambhir is completely correct but correctly (carefully) incomplete. He talks about Laxman's retirement, which is correct in the sense that its only the player who decides when to retire but is it not what happens ? The real question however is that should Laxman be given a chance in Test squad ? As you see now. Simon Katich has not retired from the game but is no more a part of Australian Team. He was being considered though because at the start of the series, Australia were in the process of building up. ( India was considering THIS to be their best chance of winning a series in Australia !!) Man proposes, God disposes. Seeing the current form and approach of Laxman, he clearly does not deserve a place in the National side. Gambhir cleverly escapes this point and moves on to counting Laxman's contribution to Indian Cricket. I would say to raise a toast to Laxman to quench the mighty thirst, that 15 years of serivce to the game, brings. Then call it a day for him.

  • Yasir.Hafeez on January 17, 2012, 19:01 GMT

    Gambhir should be tested as Captain for the next test match in Dhoni's absence. He seems to be the most sensible guy of the lot.

  • on January 17, 2012, 18:57 GMT

    Gambhir is wrong. A place on the team is not an entitlement program like the US Social Security. It is upto the selectors to make the call and not the individual.

  • JoydeepGupta on January 17, 2012, 18:56 GMT

    @ Aditya: Kumble had to retire, he was already very old, unfit and wasn't getting wickets. And honestly speaking he is NOT being missed at all. There are only two Indian cricketers to have retired with grace and while being in form - SG (Gavaskar) and SG (Ganguly) !! While Ganguly scored 960 in his last 10 test matches and a match winning 85 in his last, Gavaskar scored a brilliant 96 in his last innings. It is very sad that even Kapil Dev had to be dropped and then he announced his retirement.

  • S.Jagernath on January 17, 2012, 18:53 GMT

    Gautam Gambhir is right,VVS Laxman cannot be forced into retirement but he can be dropped as he has not been consistent for a while.Laxman has been a very good batsmen and pulled off some amazing feats but he has aged to a point where his body isn't responding fast enough.Rahul Dravid might be struggling with a similar problem,because his technique was brilliant in all conditions and against any type of bowling.India have many young batsmen with the promise of consistent batting.Batsmen like Cheteshwar Pujara,Ajinkya Rahane,Rohit Sharma,Virat Kohli,Shikhar Dhawan,Abhinav Mukund,Manoj Tiwary might have the ability but they need the oppurtunity.The BCCI preventing them from honing their skills in English County Cricket isn't helping anyone but the members of the BCCI involved in the IPL.Dhawal Kulkarni seems to be a good bowler with a decent batting ability,but India have not even considered him.Ishant Sharma is just too inconsistent & must be dropped until he works on his issues!

  • on January 17, 2012, 18:49 GMT

    In a team game, If a single player scores 300 and his team wins a game, the credit goes to the whole team and team goes up the rankings.. If the team underperforms, why a single player is blamed for it..Everyone should be responsible..

  • nkoch on January 17, 2012, 18:47 GMT

    and he forgot to add... don't drop or retire me either...

  • myStraightTalk on January 17, 2012, 18:35 GMT

    If Dhoni keeps the same team then he have to take responsibility. Tendulkar/Draivid have to take the responsibility and captain the team for the next series. Such a senior player should either captain the team or retire from the team and cannot give problem to young future captain. Why there is no merit system in Indian cricket?

  • rapidchase88 on January 17, 2012, 18:33 GMT

    Well!! If any body thinks that SACHIN/DRAVID/LUXMAN are playing for INDIA'S WINNING then they are wrong. THEY MAY but not for Winning cause. Their tenure is already OVER and they are ready to retire any day if they want. But These 3 are so special that with even little bit 40's and 50's can do great job for BCCI because they are only capable of keeping INDIAN CRICKET on top when you look at those records. These are their GOLDEN DAYS just one more year for all. BUT REMAING 4 SHOULD perform LIKE VEERU/GAMBIR/KOHLI/DHONI, STILL they are very young. I FEEL sachin/dravid CONTINUING playing for JUST FOR BCCI PRIDE individually they are already on TOP. ANY WAYS in this critical condition who play who should drop, luckly DHONI cant play last match due to OVER TIME, so ROHIT will get a chance, remaining all can play.

  • Aussieresurgance on January 17, 2012, 18:32 GMT

    It is amazing to see how the ODI world champs of less than a year ago have thumped back to earth in the eyes of the same fans who were so one eyed at the time. Many Indian fans should learn a little about loyalty and patience from this. Aus may have been on top for a long time, but we all knew there was a day where our team was going to return to the 80s. It is during those times you must, as a true fan, remember to love this game as much as you feel national pride for your team. These players entertain us, at their highs and their lows. I applaud Aus selectors for holding on to Ponting to see the yongsters come through. It worked with Border, and it is going to work again. He may be past his best, but damn he is a mongrel who will not let this team lay down and die easily. Clarke is learning from this every day Ponting sticks around (dont count Huss or Haddin, they started late). Problem for India is they have 3 old guys with mongrel sticking around- keep 2 of them involved.. coaching

  • bombay4u on January 17, 2012, 18:31 GMT

    Is Sanjay Majreker out of his mind by saying all young people should be given a chance if they are ready or not ?? I never felt he got a view that is worthwhile and this one is one of it. Why would you play a yong person just because he is yong ? when a yong person fails at high level without the proper skills he is going to be demoralized and quite playing, does he want this happen ? The best approch is to blend in young people with rotating seniour players that way they can learn, have support and guidance. I hope Sanjay you are not a selector or a coach.

  • tanveers on January 17, 2012, 18:26 GMT

    Indian team is currently going through difficult time. This happens to all the teams. Australia went through the difficult phase after their legends retired. Pakistan had terrible years after their star batsmen retired but now both teams are developing. Indian team must have to think about the future and get the youngsters in--that have enthusiasm, hunger to do well, and have good match fitness. They will lose a few series but if the youngsters have the backing of not being dropped they will start performing. This is called rebuilding the team. Like Kumble has said, India should have started phasing out the seniors two years back. It's late but not too late. The Giants (legends) need to phase out gracefully. It's about time!

  • bombay4u on January 17, 2012, 18:21 GMT

    We indians tend to reach very badly and late, when Rohit is in form he sits outside to get rusted, while we have 6 who fail repeately. Au are good at picking players in form and siting out one that done, the only reason they keep playing Marsh is that he is young and they can afford to do that when they have others who dont fail. We need to sit out the players out of form , does not matter if he is top performer before. Aswin should have played, Kumar has no pace or any thing else to get even a club cricketer out

  • Al_Pinto on January 17, 2012, 18:17 GMT

    Since the top 6 has failed repeatedly, replace the top 6, including Gambhir. Give younger players a chance.

  • bombay4u on January 17, 2012, 18:15 GMT

    What happed to the days when we had good keepers like Farokh and Kirmani, we need storng bat at number 7 and i want to know if bowlers take any batting practice or no, they cant play like they do now. i would suggest when they see ball directed at thier body hit it out of the park done defend it.

  • on January 17, 2012, 18:13 GMT

    Indian test cricket is in trouble. Its time to support the team.

  • bombay4u on January 17, 2012, 18:13 GMT

    I just done know how him and Shevag can play next test, unless Dravid can keep and Rohit can come in place of Dhoni who is banned for next test, i truly think Dhoni has let team down in the batting dept. I dont see or get any inspiration from Saha on his batting, we need Kirmani and we dont have one.

  • on January 17, 2012, 18:11 GMT

    Laxman is best for me, I like him more than sachin, dravid etc.

  • rapidchase88 on January 17, 2012, 18:10 GMT

    Well, forget about this series all are failed, but these all players can perform good in India then why should they dropped when they are playing in India. Laxman scored 176 in the last match in India. They all can do well in India. They are playing from more than a decade and doing exceptionally well, that is why they are in the automatic selection and also they are called Test Specialists played more than 100 test matchs. BCCI can not drop LUXMAN, caz he can make proud of himself but also BCCI proud by playing JUST one more year. GUYS, LISTEN ONLY LUXMAN AND SEHWAG CAN REACH 10000 CLUB becuase of SO MUCH HARDWORK. In India nobody has THATchance IN THE NEXT COMING DECADE TO JOIN THAT CLUB. IT TAKES 140-150 MATCHES TO JOIN THAT CLUB, WHEN HE IS TO GET THERE IN THESE STUGGLING DAYS WE SHOULD PUSH HIM AND HELP HIM TO STAY FEW MORE MATCHES. BECAUSE WE DONT HAVE ANY PLAYER WHO CAN JOIN IN THAT CLUB IN THE COMING DECADE, 10 YEARS IS LONG LONG TIME. BCCI WAKE UP.NOW HE IS YOUR KID.

  • on January 17, 2012, 18:06 GMT

    See when you have 16 or 17 ppl in the team, play another by replacing an out of form batsman, thts wot is required at the moment. Give Rohit a chance, ultimately we need to win matches and not talk on who should be dropped and why. Warner is not technically equipped and is kindaa batsman like Suresh Raina and when he can succeed why not our technically acclaimed Indian batsmen. Just go and play your shots and dont try to defend and thats not our cup of tea especially for Gambhir, Sehwag and Dhoni. In the current team, Sehwag, Gambhir, Laxman can be replaced by giving opportunities to Rohit, Rahane as we can clearly see that we cannot win a test match in Australia this time. Gambhir should try to play well himself otherwise no sooner than later he should see himself in Laxman`s position..

  • East_West on January 17, 2012, 18:01 GMT

    what kind of world these so-called classy indian players LIVE IN?? In majority, You entered into this team based on how well you have performed and there are so many, although perform[ed] better than you, they were not given enough chances to cement their place..so guess what, if you don't perform well, you are dropped! that is the simple logic this Gauti or Laxman or Sachin should realize! living on past laurels don't do any good,e specially when you play ONLY tests! If you don't perform well, then decide yourself and drop so that others can get a chance!! this is NOT YOUR TEAM or it is team of INDIA, Gauti! when you don't have DISCIPLINE, DETERMINATION and DRIVE even after 3 tests to stay at the crease and figure it out, then you are a useless cricketer! why don't we drop all these failed batsman and bring in the new talent - just for the final test!!! This arrogance og Gauti is the reason why India became Fake#1 Test nation! Learn from Aussies how to win games!!

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:59 GMT

    ya according to me he is right all failed,but among them vvs is worst.ya,he has failed this time to perform when all played so,we forgot all his strength and a word 'form'.ya,it may be form haunting him along with all our batsmen so if you want you drop vvs but use his position for other youngster(only one best) to play and allow laxman to play first class then after 10 test again check both his form if it has been improved give a chance or else no.but for adilade as ther is no dhoni i would like only wridhiman to play.if selectors needed let them pick rohit and play him for next three series.and in adilade i except an 200 from our laxman,"all the best magician,i you have left a lot of tricks in you continue we are with you vvs".RSV

  • Andanio on January 17, 2012, 17:57 GMT

    Considering the remaining game is a mere formality, Indian Team should seriously consider testing all their bench strength before any other overseas tour. It will be wise to play: A Rahane, V Sehwag,W Saha, S Tendulkar, R Sharma, V Kohli, R Ashwin, U Yadav, Z Khan, I Sharma and A Mithun. This combination will give the necessary experience from seniors in both bowling and batting line ups. Playing same eleven, will be a great mistake and not exploring your options in a dead rubber will be a crime. D. Fletcher has to get this across his team heads. Many of the players go from last test in to one day series and playing a one day without any knowledge of the conditions will certainly affect the performance of the players. After all the senior players are not asked to leave/retire from the test but they should prove and earn their importance for a high profile series like this.

  • Tonmoyhabib on January 17, 2012, 17:41 GMT

    Gambhir is right... Why only Laxman ??? Why people aren't talking about Sehwag, Dhoni ??? Sehwags performance is worst than Laxman. And Dhoni ??? His performance is not seems like a Captain. So talk against all not one.

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:39 GMT

    I tend to agree with Gambir .. But, there are other serious root cause for these failures (Eng wash out and now almost Aus washout) that need to be looked into it... If the foundation is not strong, what is the use of constructing walls... 1. there appears to be a real team spirit issue 2. BCCI has absolute no value for the spirit of the game, they are applying the proverb "Make the Hay while sunshine" to its core...

    Consistent Collapse of the Team (all 11 players) is not by chance.. Agreed there are always bad phases in everyone life, and sometimes they stick to us for a longer duration than we would want to .. Assuming Laxman is going thru a similar phase, and giving a complete benefit of doubt .. I completely agree with Gambir.. Laxman tried very hard to provide quality cricket, but, did not happen in recent past... Does that mean he should be let go... ? not sure .. he should definitely be rested .. Some of these players have given great cricket to India.. Good Luck Laxman...

  • shayad on January 17, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    1.A Rahane 2. R Sharma 3. R Dravid(c) 4. S Tendulkar 5. VVS Laxman 6. V Kohli 7. W Saha(wk) 8. Z Khan 9. P Ojha 10. U Yadav 11. A Mithun

  • x-squire-x on January 17, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    Why are people calling for laxman to be dropped, sewag and tendulkar are the ones who should go, tendulkar normally plays for his stats, especially now with the hundredth hundred the next milestone. While sewag is a lot like chris gayle.. he either usually fails, scores a useless quickfire fifty, or the occassional big hundred on a worthless pitch.

  • cricsuhail on January 17, 2012, 17:23 GMT

    former players - sanjay managrekar, arun lal, madan lal etc - should not even be talking about when Laxman should retire. They havent half of his achievement. Anyway.... I wish Laxman and Team India well for Adelaide. The transition process has already begun.. we have found Kohli and Rohit... so relax and let the seniors retire in peace with a plan in mind working with the team management. Dhoni should indeed step down and let someone else manage Test team. I think we can let Gautam run the show. He seems a confident leader and a fighter.

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:19 GMT

    First ppl need to know what cricket is.you flop for a series or two and you want to change whole team..look at the record how many matches they won and saved for us. and ppl who talk about sachin being selfish and need to retire. like watch and understand cricket first then make comments. he is the only batsmen who improved with age. he is getting better and better. reagarding making a young team. didnt we make one in 2010 when they couldn't even be zimbabwe..so called young team lost to zimbabwe lol...you are not a fan if you dont support ur team in a loss...all those indians or others who wasnts tese legends dropped let me tell u one thing YOU NEVA KNOW WHAT YOU GOT UNTILL U LOSE IT. everyone will regret dropping them

  • rsurya on January 17, 2012, 17:18 GMT

    Great Man gambhir, from now on iam your fan.

  • cricsuhail on January 17, 2012, 17:17 GMT

    A brilliant statement. Dhoni should have said this before Gautam. But whoever said this does not, the truth is Laxman is NOT the only one to be blamed. He does need to evaluate his place in the team and him hunger. Only he can tell if he wants to call it a day. He should be allowed to work with the selectors and team management to discuss his plans. Ditto for Dravid, Sachin and Sehwag.

  • voosan on January 17, 2012, 17:15 GMT

    This is classic. It is just like a diseased person trying to treat another treat person. First Gambhir should cure his own diseases than to worry about what is being said about Laxman. Gambhir has too many problems, he needs to fix them. As far as Laxman, I don't care whether what he does. The main point is what the heck needs to be done to Win the next match. Should we retire few people from the team, bing people from the retirement back, do what ever it takes to win. Spend time thinking about this.

    Do you guys have any national pride left any more?

  • AjaySridharan on January 17, 2012, 17:14 GMT

    Here's the problem with the Indian attitude...we almost always need a crisis to perform. Perhaps it's our obsession with the underdog hero that has been cornered and wants to come out punching. One big win in Adelaide and the team and the fans would think that the job has been done. The "process" will never be put in place and meticulously followed to the hilt. I don't see the Indian team ever being true world champions for a long time. There's something inherent in our nature as a collective unit. Unless you believe, you won't

  • SpiritOfTheGame on January 17, 2012, 17:12 GMT

    You guys are the worst supporters of your own team. With the type of comments posted, no cricketer could have the self-confidence or desire to play for the team or country. So either support the team positively, or just be quite. Armchair commentary and critcism is the last thing anyone needs. Did you see how England got out in the first test against Pak? It happens.

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:10 GMT

    @George Kennedy: LOL..Yes I think he should be dropped.

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:08 GMT

    i think both the openers r no 1 culprit. both of them should b dropped.if they would hav given a good start indi could score 300+ in every inning.

  • Romenevans on January 17, 2012, 17:03 GMT

    Gambhir how about your own place in the team? Can't stop yourself poking at everything, talking about someone else is a complete joke. These shameless cricketers will keep defending their useless legends. TV rating are falling, Sponsors are running away....just wait and watch Gambhir and keep defending him.

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:03 GMT

    Gambir is correct in all aspects when it is in the context of "Gentlemens Cricket". Currently it is "GentleMoneys Cricket" so players would have no intentions of retiring unless otherwise asked to GO!.

    Look at Dravid, He even forgot to inform the board that he has retired from ODI's as players now-a-days things it is not an obligation and they can continue to serve as long as the Board want them to. For them it is easy Money..why not take it!!

    So it is only correct that the board has some specific qualifying criteria's for players more than say 35!!. Howzat!!

  • on January 17, 2012, 17:03 GMT

    Gambhir, you nailed it! Great point. Also, all comments here on Cricinfo articles are by plastic cricket fans who stay with the team only when it's performing & when it doesn't, they want all the players to be kicked out of the team. This same team has done wonders in England & Australia before. Why go behind them for only 2 bad series'. It can happen to any team.

  • mashka on January 17, 2012, 17:02 GMT

    Gambhir's right, no one but Laxman has the right to say when he should retire. He should, however, have no say in whether he gets dropped on poor performance. That should be the same for every other player in the team as well. Will the selectors dare to drop any of the old guys? Laughable! Now, Sachin's made himself available for the ODI series to get his 100th 100, when he prefers not to play other ODI series. Talk about playing for personal records! Indian cricket will not improve until selection is team-centric.

  • ashok16 on January 17, 2012, 17:01 GMT

    The team has lost 3-0 so far and has already lost 4-0 in England. Nobody's job in the team ought to be secure. This is not Gambhir's grandfather's property or some state government office. India is a huge country and all (yes, all 11 of them) are replaceable. It is a media creation that there is only one Tendulkar-like or Dravid-like player in the entire country. I hope atleast 4 players are dropped from the next test (not incuding Dhoni). Else we will respecting experience and going to pot.

  • Subysan on January 17, 2012, 16:58 GMT

    One of the greatest challenges in Life-to listen to your inner voice and retire gracefully, when there is still something left,than hang on and be kicked around for that one duck or that dropped catch. How cruel can people be, and how short are people's memories!! It was Laxman who has given us those treasured moments of joy when India whipped that victory,time and time again !! Let him pick his moment and it is time to support and give that understanding to the team!!!

  • on January 17, 2012, 16:57 GMT

    I thought test match is to be played for 5 days but with the recent past india have lost all the test match in england and aus 4 days or less.accept the fact the we have not good enough away form india it is time for change.

  • Al_Bundy1 on January 17, 2012, 16:56 GMT

    Nobody is forcing LAX to retire. We want BCCI and Coach/Captain to drop him from the team, along with Gauti and Viru. They can always go back to Ranji Trophy and Duleep Trophy and prove themselves. If they do well in domestic tournament - they will be eligible for selection - just like the rest of the players. Dravid and 10dulkar - you are next. Perform or perish!!

  • on January 17, 2012, 16:50 GMT

    This is absolute nonsense. Gambir does not know what he is talking. If you allow all players to retire when they want then perhaps Kapil dev and Gavskar be still playing cricket

    This is not common sense approach. It is not the reputation and friendship that matters. It is the contribution of a player to winning games that mostly matters. If a players does not contirbute to the team for a long period he should be dropped regardless of his history. If that is not going to happen then god will have to save indian cricket.

  • on January 17, 2012, 16:49 GMT

    as gambir said , dont sack laxman alone.. sack gambir , sehwag, dravid, dhoni, along wit laxman.. removing only laxman is not fair.. so remove all the five

  • THINK_BEYOND on January 17, 2012, 16:47 GMT

    Yes, it is harsh not only for Laxman but also for other two greats - Sachin & Dravid, we have grown up watching them, and have always admired them. But the question here is how long?? We are not playing a talent like Rohit Sharma just bcoz of them. Is it not fair to follow a rotation policy with these 3 seniors to provide exposure to a real good talent..otherwise how will u groom them up. Moreover a question to the die hard fans, why then Sourav was dropped when he was performing so great after his return. We Indians are hypocrites, our judgements are different at different times..isn't it?? A couple of suggestions to BCCI, can we make it mandatory for our U19 U21 players to play in county, or in Aus/SA just to groom them up instead of just pushing them to IPL. One more, can we pls develop few sporting bouncy pitches in India for our domestic tournaments.

  • crindo77 on January 17, 2012, 16:43 GMT

    Gambhir's statement 'I think we did not play well' says it all. Is that condescension for admitting that you are inferior in batting skills compared to other top teams worldwide? Or is that the arrogance born out of the warm after-glow of millions of USD in bank balance and the knowledge that your selectors and cricket board executives are equally big knobs? These guys were comprehensively thrashed in England and have been shown up in Oz. For all their millions they are mediocre when the conditions are not easy. This group has undone all the good work done by previous teams under Ganguly, Wright and Kirsten. We are back to square one. Thanks for nothing Gambhir. You can go back to IPL now.

  • ElPhenomeno on January 17, 2012, 16:43 GMT

    I neither understand nor agree with what gambhir's saying. India relies too much on past reputations. Laxman has been poor, so has been the rest of the batters. No disagreement there. I do feel dravid and laxman could be retired. Tendulkar, for more reasons than 1, is going to pick when he retires. Nothing anyone could do about that. Difference between laxman underperforming and gambhir or sehwag underperforming is AGE. At this age laxman has little to offer. If gambhir was as old as laxman, he could be rest assured his head would have been on chopping block as well. It is only age that people are not calling for others to be axed. I feel gambhir and sehwag still has it in them. I never thought dhoni to be a test cricketer, so its a call selectors will have to make. He himself thinks he is a full package rather than a specialist anything. But if he cannot contribute with the bat, and cannot be a winning captain, its hard to justify your place in the team.

  • on January 17, 2012, 16:42 GMT

    i support gotam ghambir big punishment for laxman only one series fail atleast next series giving chance due to ipl indian player forgat test cricket at this way bcci not taken action against ipl due to ipl india next test in nov r dec so big loss for indian fans to watch testcricket see the example of ponting and hussy

  • sachin_vvsfan on January 17, 2012, 16:39 GMT

    Funny how people like @sjitendran feel he is the only one responsible for this debacle.Why are you not disappointed with sehwag(who got 3 lives to score his only half century ) and dhoni who didn't look good through out the series. laxman did score half century and was looking gud in the first innings of third test. But people always pick him because he is the soft target. If he doesn't perform well then he should be dropped (like how he was dropped for yuvraj and ganguly in subcontinent tours)and he can always come back because there are really no overseas test performers

  • JackJak on January 17, 2012, 16:38 GMT

    What is this hero worship we Indian's seem to have. It always should be about form and nothing else..none of these guys merit a permanent place in the team based on statistics and should be based on form. Gambir from the beginning looked like a player who could only play well in subcontinental conditions, Sehwag is a lucky batsman ..it works sometimes and doesnt work most of the time..and when it works people keep hyping it that they dont see the reality of his batting..Dravid was always a batsman who could play well in English condiions but never really did too well in Australia..maybe he didnt relish the pacy pitches..but he could handle swing and seam in England well..Tendulkar somehow seemed to prefer Australia more than England although he has scored a few in England too..Laxman too an Australia expert and miserable in England. Well the time has come ..where the eyesight is no longer there to do well series after series ..Move on and lets get a totally new team!

  • on January 17, 2012, 16:36 GMT

    we shuld not forget that he is the same person who has brought out india from many weird positions.... we shuld give him little time and he rightly deserves it....... and for ghambir he is the player who will only perform in sub continent... he i a big bump player for overseas tours.....

  • on January 17, 2012, 16:29 GMT

    Hey guys what is the fuss. This is a natural process, whoever perform wekk will stay in the team, South Africa has recently replaced Prince. Laxman should not retire. Selector should replace him whoever Selector consider suitable. Just wait and see then. If Mr. Laxman is holding someone place unnecessarily. You will come to know immediately.

  • ssenthil on January 17, 2012, 16:26 GMT

    I wonder how good Laxman is without a TEST CENTURY in SA, Pak and ENG??? Perhaps he is an FTB much like Sehwag? 45.50 Avg in Aus, 34.47 Avg in Eng, 40.25 Avg in NZ, 37.42 Avg in Pak, 40.42 Avg in SA. But Avg 51.60 in India, hmmmm

  • anti-dictatorial-attitude on January 17, 2012, 16:26 GMT

    GG is wrong. Player cannot decide when he should retire. Player's play, age and repeated failed batting should decided that. If not, Sourav would still like to play even today while he passed his prime. The problem is that Indian team has too many such seniors who the selectors are scared to drop. If they do fans would literally kill them. Meanwhile upcoming players like Badrinath and Pujara get sidelined when they are the perfect ones for test cricket. Yes, team would lose with them also but they gain experience. Now we are losing and not training anyone in that process. So, losing will continue even longer when youngsters comes up. Even GG should be dropped as he shows up only once in while. Finally nobody is blaming bowling as they also share a small part of this series lost. They are not able to defend smaller totals and need 400+ runs all the time.

  • Nampally on January 17, 2012, 16:24 GMT

    Fans want the non performing Senior players to make way for the up & coming youngsters in the XI. Rahul, Sachin & VVS are all in the range of +38 age bracket. In this series much was expected of them but they were anything but legendary, VVS being the worst of the 3. Dhoni is afraid to drop any of these 3 out of respect even though Rohit Sharma is in terrific form. Perhaps VVS should step aside for one test, in the interest of Indian team, & let Rohit play instead. That is the best option..Fans can see when Clarke (329), Ponting (135), Hussey (150) can tear the Indian bowling to shreds, how can Indian batting fail twice on the very same pitch? Indian batsmen were not only lacking in patience, grit & intensity, they were recklessly irresponsible.All Aussie bowlers had to do was bowl consistently on or outside the off stump & let Indian batsmen commit suicide!.Kohli & Sharma deserve to be in XI at the expense of any. Why should Rohit be dropped when the batting is so Irresponsibly Poor?.

  • on January 17, 2012, 16:22 GMT

    First Gambhir should be dropped ahead of Laxman. He doesn't even possess technique to tackle moving ball. All his dismissals came due to playing across the line. It's funny he is talking about another failed guy. Gauti, go and hone your skills, no point in heaping loads of runs in India. So better you drop yourself from the team.

  • vamsi_meet on January 17, 2012, 16:14 GMT

    TEAM WORK... Winning or Loosing... Fantastic backup Gauti.. you proved it. It is very unfair to point at one batsman... Laxman is more match winner for past 7 years than any other player in the indian team... 2 tours(Eng & Aus) failure cannot eliminate him like this..!!! Winning or Loosing... what matters is team effort. Its a bias but why Aussie win is because of their passion in ground.. Indian team lack that.. Harbajan had that fire in him during last tour to Aussie.. we completley lack that. Show aggression on face and your passion on game.. you will win last test match.. Aussies can be outplayed with Aggression.. need not be perfect game...

  • on January 17, 2012, 16:14 GMT

    The reason for indian failure is inept bowling. Period.

  • on January 17, 2012, 16:13 GMT

    he is criticised once so he say so

  • on January 17, 2012, 16:10 GMT

    VVS a legend of the game? really?? i've never heard that one before. Since when did VVS become a legend? Legends are the likes of Bradman, Hammond, Gavaskar, Border, the 3 Ws weekes,worrel, walcott. VVS is NOT a legend. Sure he is a good batsman but he's the most inconsistent of the three old hands(Dravid and SRT being the other two). He's nothing more than a good batsman and to be honest his performances over the last 3 years has been ordinary.I'd ship him and Sehwag out of the team first. No place for Sehwags i'm all right jack happy go lucky, holly golightly attitude. This guy needs a reality check on how to bat when his team most needs him.

  • stark-truth on January 17, 2012, 16:08 GMT

    Averages 46 and called a "legend"! Enuff said!

  • Raj12345 on January 17, 2012, 16:04 GMT

    There are some people agree with what Gambhir said. Please read & understand Gambhir stmt. We fans & Indians have right to criticize our team. I don't think we have crossed limit. Is Gambhir saying, don't say anything after failing 7 test defeat. This is completely unacceptable. When Mukund not played for 2 test. you guys removed him. When Puraja played good 1 test. Still he is removed from team. When Rahane not got chance, but Kohli & Raina, Yuvi getting dozen chances. When Badri is given Raw deal, Laxman getting more & more chances to hit 1 hundred then take is for another 1 year. When bowler like Ashwin can score 50 runs, and why not you guys. Is some thing wrong there? we will talk.

  • vinredd on January 17, 2012, 16:02 GMT

    He deserves another chance...and sure he'll bounce back

  • on January 17, 2012, 16:02 GMT

    Well its good to see that atleast the indian teamates have trust in each other..... as all the indian population have lost trust in there legends for just losing a test seires... I think all the indians have forgotenn that these were the legends who won them the world cup.!!!!

  • Dheepan on January 17, 2012, 16:01 GMT

    Yes Mr Gambhir, he has the right to choose when to retire.. but is it not common sense to ask for a change for something or someone who hasnt been performing well in the last few tests? How long do you wish to persist with the same losing team, if you don't make changes how do you know if there is someone better than 'the legend'! this legend status is all horse-shit, if one is not performing, its time to try someone else!

  • Deepak on January 17, 2012, 16:01 GMT

    When it comes to talking to press, Indian team says all the right things, doesn't it? And they keep raising the hope and optimism with every game. Sadly, by the end of the game, it's back to square one. For example, at the start of the series, M S had said that they had enough preparation for this tour and if 12 days aren't enough, then 1 month won't be enough. After the 3rd test loss, he said that they haven't adapted quickly enough! Seriously? How much time do you need to adapt now, when you yourself said that 12 days should be enough ? Also, what I don't understand is - why go directly towards Laxman's 'retirement' ? Just drop him for one game and give the talented Rohit Sharma a chance. How hard is that ? VVS doesn't have to retire for that, just sit out 1 game. 1 game! I don't get it. Why so much reluctance? If he isn't performing, things aren't clicking, why not look for a change and inspiration somewhere else ?

  • ssand on January 17, 2012, 16:00 GMT

    A mature Gautham! You have always expressed yourself fearlessly. You are captaincy material.

  • JoydeepGupta on January 17, 2012, 15:54 GMT

    Really? Where were these talks when Ganguly retired after scoring 960 runs in his last 10 test matches??

  • LMan on January 17, 2012, 15:53 GMT

    It just doesn't seem like competitive cricket for India, nor a presence of administration.It seems more like an autocratic decision making in the team with certain players establishing empires. Cricket is a sport and countries need to treat it as such. When they do they flourish, when they don't they get stuck.A prime example was Australia's decline due to its hesitance is dropping senior players. The Indian cricket team is in that stage of its evolution. If it does n't change soon enough, the decline will be much deeper that bouncing back could take a decade.

  • Chirs-Cry on January 17, 2012, 15:49 GMT

    The problem it Tendulkar. He needs to retire (or at least retire from 'over-seas series' and play home series only for-the-records) P.S He will not retire before getting 100th hundred (I bet that). Laxman and Dravid are way past their prime, like tendulkar. Shewag, again, mostly a home-only player. Gambhir not quite the likes of Sachin or Dravid. Virat is highly underused. He is not great by ANY means but a decent talent. Should bat high in the order. Dhoni, like he says he needs to retire from one format if India are to defend the WC (they can never defend the 2015 WC because its in Aus. DUH) I guess this format is it mate.

  • HLANGL on January 17, 2012, 15:48 GMT

    Why's all the blame on Laxman ?. Except T'kar who had a decent run despite still not getting his 100th international hundred, all others failed. At least the likes of Laxman & Dravid have delivered in the past in these trying conditions. The way the whole Indian team fail to deliver when these 3 fail to deliver outside their own territory reflects how these 3 are so crucial & synonymous with their success in these conditions. Except Shewag, which Indian player after 2000s can match these 3 ? Why should they made the scapegoats despite carrying the burden for so many years ?. Except Kohli & Sharma, which other new Indian batsman has the quality of these seniors ?. Youvraj, Raina, Jadeja, Yousuf Pathan & even Dhoni are just craps compared to them, it's certainly not worth dropping someone like Laxman for them.The only player I can see is Ajinkya Rahane who's still emerging. Still I believe there're few who have done almost nothing & still getting chances repeatedly, pls drop one of them.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 17, 2012, 15:48 GMT

    Dropping and Retiring are two entirely different things. When would our 'decent' media and fans realise that difference? I completely agree with Gambhir. Retirement is a personal issue. Dropping is a job issue based on your performances.

  • HLANGL on January 17, 2012, 15:47 GMT

    Why's all the blame on Laxman ?. Except T'kar who had a decent run despite still not getting his 100th international hundred, all others failed. At least the likes of Laxman & Dravid have delivered in the past in these trying conditions. The way the whole Indian team fail to deliver when these 3 fail to deliver outside their own territory reflects how these 3 are so crucial & synonymous with their success in these conditions. Except Shewag, which Indian player after 2000s can match these 3 ? Why should they made the scapegoats despite carrying the burden for so many years ?. Except Kohli & Sharma, which other new Indian batsman has the quality of these seniors ?. Youvraj, Raina, Jadeja, Yousuf Pathan & even Dhoni are just craps compared to them, it's certainly not worth dropping someone like Laxman for them.The only player I can see is Ajinkya Rahane who's still emerging. Still I believe there're few who have done almost nothing & still getting chances repeatedly, pls drop one of them.

  • Cricket.Nellore on January 17, 2012, 15:46 GMT

    Laxman is a lost legend. I said, he was legend. Sachin is just a records making/breaking player, rarely comes for Teams victories. Why not he cricticised. The Fact is however his runs are some how useful for teams progress. Thats why Sachin always sounds well but not "an all time match winner"

  • cricketeria on January 17, 2012, 15:46 GMT

    Seriously "gauti"? @ashishcooltech is right, we're saying drop VVS, not retire him. If VVS still wants to play, he should play Ranji, push for selection, make RUNS. Dravid avged 54.5 past 12 mos, can't drop him. Laxman only 37.5. Sachin is undroppable. So I'm sorry but if you want to drop a senior, it has to be Laxman. In fact I think Gambhir should be dropped before Laxman. Maybe drop Gambhir(avg 25.9 last 12 mos), and then you have Dravid, Sehwag, Laxman, SRT, Kohli, Sharma, Dhoni, Ashwin, Zaheer, Ishant, Yadav.

  • on January 17, 2012, 15:46 GMT

    what Gambir said is true.y only laxman is criticized all the top 6 batsmen are being failed.laxman had served the team for long long.he is the legand and saved the team many times from losing.as the laxman needs one good test match to return his confidence back.no one should decide his retire only he should decide.VVS LAXMAN is a legend of india's test cricket team.and Gambhir is very good batsmen and hope india wll do their best in upcoming test.

  • on January 17, 2012, 15:44 GMT

    The "vultures" who are calling for VVS to retire, who are focusing their frustrations on him, who have forgotten the yoeman service to the game and the nation, who have no appreciation for the the game and who have no respect and/or loyalty should fly away. VVS is class. He has done his duty above and betond on so many occasions. Perhaps tyhe bitterness is over the fact he could not save the team again. Why him? Why not the swashbuckler Viru or Gambir or Dhoni even Tendulkar. Soon they will be howling against Rahul and even Sachin. Who are these detractors? Are they gamblers who lost their grocery money? Media types who hide their mediocrity behind yowls of complaint, or merely malcontents who are satisfied with nothing. Whoever they are, they should lay off. Sachin, Rahul, VVS, deserve better than this shameful display. Have the decwency to allow them to leave with dignity and grace, after their years of excellent service, at a time of their choosing.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 17, 2012, 15:41 GMT

    I completely agree with Gambhir. Retirement is a personal decision best left to the player, his family and friends. BCCI or the media have no business in that. The only thing BCCI can do is to drop players based on poor performances. Period! Well said Gambhir. Take a bow!

  • henchart on January 17, 2012, 15:41 GMT

    Laxman should retire,Gambhir should be axed and Dhoni stripped of test captaincy .If these players ,especially Dravid-Laxman-Tendulkar trio are allowed to choose when to retire,they would prefer to play even with one foot on their graves.Its time BCCI got damn serious and takes harsh measures which include removing that mediocre former India opener and current Chairman of Selectors,sacking Duncan Fletcher and of course easing the trio out .

  • K.A.K on January 17, 2012, 15:33 GMT

    Well said @ashishcooltech. Spot on.

  • TRAM on January 17, 2012, 15:32 GMT

    Krish Srikkanth had an ok average for a dashing opener of his time. As a captain he drew the 4 match series against Pak in Pak which was a good feat at that time, since India always lost to Pak in Pak. Still Srikkanth was dropped from the squad, quoting his batting failures. Will the current Indian selectors (Krish Srikkanth himself ironically) drop Dhoni for his batting failures ??? Will they drop ANY senior player for their batting failures? But they dont hesitate to drop performing youngsters like Badri after 2 test chances in spite of scoring a 50+ !!

  • mgiri1983 on January 17, 2012, 15:29 GMT

    Thats what i call a team spirit. I have always mentioned in my previous comments that its a total team collapse not a single person.I really dont understand why the hell every body wants after VVS life.He hadbeen a true legend for india all through.Just take a look of previous 2 years performance wenso ever india has won.His contribution was just phenomenonal.he single handedly guides india to victory.sad thing is that wen he won matches for india then people called it as a team performance & stupidity is that wen india lost the matches.Its because of VVS.Only god knows indian cricket. But hats off to Gambhir. A true cricketer.Kudos to you.Kee the same faith in him.He will blast the australian attack in Adeliade.Thats the sure.

  • on January 17, 2012, 15:24 GMT

    great players like harbhajan ganguly and azharuddin dropped whn out of form . any player can get dropped anytime , laxman is not an exception..

  • wolf777 on January 17, 2012, 15:20 GMT

    Sack Gambhir too....give a chance to Rahane.

  • K.A.K on January 17, 2012, 15:19 GMT

    Team India comes before individual players, no matter how important they are. No doubt laxman's contribution in the past have been great, it does not stop us from criticizing him when he is not playing good. We love our players and that gives us the right to criticize them. The team needs some turnaround soon. No player should consider himself above the team interests. It is not an old boys clubs that no one can stop you from coming in. Wishing Laxman a quick recovery and team management should do whatever is in the best interest of the team.

  • mohammed_indian on January 17, 2012, 15:18 GMT

    you the man gambhir. talking about fair deal.. if thats the case why not dhoni, why not sehwag, why not sachin... vvs has taken out team india out of trouble on numerous occassions. its a unit nto a player. hope that bcci gives vvs more chances to prove himself. he deserves to stay in team india. go vvs go!

  • TRAM on January 17, 2012, 15:15 GMT

    @ George Kennedy, fantastic. :))) >>> Technically I have yet to officially retire from international cricket too...

  • ihaq1 on January 17, 2012, 15:10 GMT

    well if an individual is responsible for an overall failure than that should be stated..facts are really not criticism..Laxman used to defend and bat well to save India...he is not doing that..the bowling in australia might be better but mostly it is usually teh age which causes deterioration in batting...sports require that a person is mentally and physically fit.. has good eyesight and body coordination...I think generally only Dravid has played more than one good inning but Laxman has not played even one..obviously a team regarded highly as test players needs to give a better performance and many think the reserve players should be given a shot at adelaide...teh series is lost play both reserve batsmen and spinner ..in fact in adelaide play both spinners...the reserve wickekeeper is a steady batsman so play five bowlers and keep teh pressure on teh batsmen...i would suggest opening with rahane and gambhir...Sehwag should be able to score even down teh order

  • on January 17, 2012, 15:10 GMT

    Gambhir has got to be joking, nobody has to right to decide when to go. this is not some kind of private club. These guys have become too rich on IPL easy pickings. the message should be sent out load and clear you either perform or you find the door marked exit and don't forget to shut the door behind you. That applies to Laxman, Tendulkar, Sehwag and Gambhir himself. Gambhir has not exactly covered himself in glory so who says he should have a right to air his views on the subject.

  • on January 17, 2012, 15:09 GMT

    For all who is suggesting laxman to retire dont forget about his classical play which provided so many wins and draws for india...and this is the only tour where laxman has got failed....

  • punkster on January 17, 2012, 15:09 GMT

    Mr Gambhir, being in the Indian cricket team is not a right, but a privilege earned by one's performance. Your statement reveals the typical Indian mindset which is in great need for overhauling, just like the team composition. Please et's get out of the habit of treating evrey setup, be it an organization like BCCI or a team, as one's personal property or fiefdom.

  • TRAM on January 17, 2012, 15:07 GMT

    Dont cry Gambhir and dont talk ! Either play well or else JUST QUIT ! We fans didn't pay for the cricket channels to listen to you guys' orations.

  • Mann123 on January 17, 2012, 15:05 GMT

    If this was coming from a well performing cricketer in the team it would have at least sounded good. Does Mr Gambhir know that people are even asking him to go as well, dropped. You can't choose when you want to retire or Bradman would be playing till he died and probably scoring more than our 7 great batsmen.

  • on January 17, 2012, 15:04 GMT

    Does he has moral courage to announce retirement like most of other Asian Players??? I remember Wasim Akram announced retirement after he was dropped

  • MitenD on January 17, 2012, 15:00 GMT

    I am a big fan of Gautam but this is the silliest thing I have ever heard him say. It is NOT up to a player to decide when to retire. Let's face it - we love watching Laxman bat when he is going well and we all recognize what great contributions he has made to Indian test cricket. But, the fact is that he is in his late 30s and has completely looked out of sorts in the last 7 tests. If he stops contributing with the bat, he needs to be replaced! We have to think of the future and having both Kohli and Rohit Sharma playing while Dravid and Tendulkar are still there will help them both develop and hopefully form the core of the next indian middle order. Time for change is now. We love you Laxman but it's time to say goodbye!

  • on January 17, 2012, 14:56 GMT

    Strong show of solidarity! Gambhir is not only owning up to his and other batsmen's failures, he is also standing up for some one who is being treated a little unreasonably in the larger scheme of things! These are tough times for the Indian cricketers and the only way to come out of this stronger is to stay together. I wasn't sure if Gambhir was the kind that comes out to the media supporting a team mate. Now I know! Well done sir!

  • on January 17, 2012, 14:55 GMT

    First you are not playing for yourselves, you are playing for your country, so people has every right to crticise you guys, we are paying to watch your games we don't get free feeds for watching you guys fail repeatedly not even stretching a game to 5 days, don't give statements, you guys already started to think about the next 2 years playing at home, i don't think you can win/draw/even stretch the game to 5 days, regarding laxman he is not a young guy who can afford to fail series after series riding on the past performance, if you accept it as a collective failure, make a collective effort by all of u to quit the game. Let others try their luck. We are fed up seeing you looser guys perform so pathetic.

  • ramsub1967 on January 17, 2012, 14:50 GMT

    I blame the BCCI for creating dead pitches in india. Why cant we prepare temporary bouncy pitches one month before overseas tour to get our players acquatined with bouce of the pitch. Suddenly VVS has become the villain for no fault of his.

  • on January 17, 2012, 14:50 GMT

    GAMBHIR is saying what DADA said 2days before...

  • Sreerang on January 17, 2012, 14:47 GMT

    Retire or not, I hope that India plays Kohli, Rohit and Rahane, all three to give them some exposure. Doesn't matter who is dropped. The series anyways is lost. Might as well give the youngsters a chance.

  • jain_pk on January 17, 2012, 14:46 GMT

    i think it is the right time to retire Laxman and Dravid also because if they strict to the game with this form they will be forced to retire. But now they can retire with honour, but think who can replace them in Indian cricket at this time....................

  • pr3m on January 17, 2012, 14:41 GMT

    He said the same thing three times in one paragraph. These guys should only talk through press releases so we have the illusion that they know what they're saying.

    As for retirement, of course it's up to Laxman to decide. They're not gonna retire him, they can drop him till he retires. When the BCCI says a player of some calibre and standing is gonna retire, they mean that they don't want him to face the ignominy of being dropped and they're gonna tell him that he's not part of the future plans and should retire.

  • on January 17, 2012, 14:41 GMT

    (third and final part)

    If it was really objective, it shd have come at Perth where the series was still in balance. And Rohit Sharma also wd have had a real exposure to Test cricket in alien conditions when everything is still at stake.

    If sporting priorities had consistently driven BCCI's moves, I wd have no qualms about BCCI asking VVS to go. It wd still be very painful to swallow that news but I won't feel an unfair decision was made to please some vested interests.

    "Pity the nation that welcomes its new ruler with trumpeting, and farewells him with hooting, only to welcome another with trumpeting again." Khalil Gibran.

    Bye-bye VVS! Welcome Rohit! Bye-bye Rohit! Welcome XXX!

    Gibran, what is your Indian connection?

  • on January 17, 2012, 14:38 GMT

    (contd from prev post) Is it really possible to know when you are at your peak to make a grand declaration. This is not aircraft flying or mountain climbing to know you have reached peak altitude. Take the case of Ricky Ponting. Two years and 33 innings later he gets a century. Should he continue? Would it have been right to have axed him before this series began? What difference it wd have made to the result at SCG had Ponting been tapped on the shoulder before teh series began? It is a pertinent case study because Ponting showed a century is till in him after a 33 innings hiatus. What pains me is the short sighted stance of Sanjay Manjrekar. India has lost the series. What is the hurry to bring in Rohit for just a Test and the unseemly hurry in seeing off VVS? Giving Rohit Sharma a single exposure of Aussie soil that too Adelaide Oval in a dead rubber is not going to give any new insight nor real experience. A sudden bout of 'pragmatism' by BCCI appears a rushed amateurish move.

  • on January 17, 2012, 14:35 GMT

    At least one sane and bold voice from the team! Good call, Gautam Gambhir!

    We are in a mess because BCCI had never really planned the trio's exit. Undoubtedly it is a tough dilemma. It is a question of 'not that I loved Caesar less but that I loved Rome more!'

    My views are not motivated merely by being a fellow Hyderabadi or as a big fan of VVS. I have argued rather vehemently in fav of Simon Katich, Ricky Ponting and Mike Hussey as well.

    I have stated elsewhere (perhaps everywhere) retirement - not the forced 'Voluntary Retirement' - is a personal decision and must be entirely really that.

    If this news leak is anything to go by it is akin to Steve Waugh's 'retirement' in 2004 (although a bit more well managed public spectacle)

    I am reminded of Peter's Principle. That every man rises to his level of incompetence! (tbc)

  • rairatank on January 17, 2012, 14:34 GMT

    You are Mr. Gambhir, whole team is responsible and you top the list.It has been years since you score a hundred and since you consider yourself young so you won't be ask to retire, you should be dropped and rest of old gun should retire otherwise unthinkable will happen, they have to be axed and legends shouldn't face this so better retire.

  • Nampally on January 17, 2012, 14:32 GMT

    It is nice to accept that you have failed collectively. But to do nothing to correct it is what shocks all the Fans. Laxman is being singled out because of his disappointing form & the way he is getting out consistently. Why not replace him with Rohit Sharma who has been in terrific form & deserves a chance. Out of form players should sit out irrespective of their past "Legendary" status. Gambhir says he is taking responsibility for his failure! He chases the balls wide outside the off stump repeatedly & is still doing it as is Sehwag. Correct that!.Ask yourselves - Why are you failing? Because you are batting irresponsibly - with no patience, intensity & will to Win.The footwork is all wrong & defies the fundamentals of cricket!.To err& fail is human - but doing nothing to correct is NOT. Why not replace the failing guys with those who can get the job done.If VVS has conscience,he will sit out & let Rohit play @ Adelaide.If VVS plays, I call that "Irresponsible" & selfish act.

  • stark-truth on January 17, 2012, 14:27 GMT

    Absolute nonsense from Gambhir! Playing for India has to be earned, it's not a prerogative! Laxman has been a decent batsman, and to call him a "legend" is bordering on over-kill to say the least. Yes, he has played some wonderful knocks but he has failed a lot too in testing times. His batting average is merely 46 in an era where there invariably all leading batsmen score at an average of above 50. No less than 22 batsmen in the last thirty years (minimum number of innings 25) have averaged over 50, according to Statsguru. Laxman has been a good servant for Indian cricket, but nowhere a legend.

  • on January 17, 2012, 14:21 GMT

    Ummmmm........India need Gary Kirsten.......Really, if you see Indias record under Kirsten, you will have a clear picture.......Kirsten removed the mental block in Indian Players.....Get him back and Indias record away from will improve......thats a challange.......

  • on January 17, 2012, 14:17 GMT

    Time has come when our legends take a decision to retire rather than being asked to and thrown away. Please for crickets sake.

  • on January 17, 2012, 14:16 GMT

    ya well said gambhir u r absolutely right it's just the matter of one innings to get back his confidence.... All the very best Laxman & The INDIAN team....

  • ilovecricket1234 on January 17, 2012, 14:15 GMT

    I don't get this! Why don't the players retire on their own? Shouldn't they be smart enough to realize that it is time for to move on? Why should others have to make the painful decision of forcing them out? Leave on a high instead of taking your average down and being forced out! Don't make life hard for the selectors by insisting on playing.

  • noplay on January 17, 2012, 14:13 GMT

    Laxman has trhe right to retire. The selectors have the right to drop him. And Gambhir has the right to fail five out of six time.

  • maddinson on January 17, 2012, 14:11 GMT

    The problem with India is that 3 out there 6 are nearly touching 40 and other three involving Dhoni are not good enough against quality bowling attack on challenging wickets. So apparently Gambhir is saying correctly that selectors should drop all 6 of them.

  • on January 17, 2012, 14:08 GMT

    Well Said by Gambhir... No body in the team has performed up to their potential in this series against Australia...where India was expected to perform better...

  • Shueb on January 17, 2012, 14:06 GMT

    He is absolutly right... Sach, Drav & VVS have served Indian cricket for years... You cant sack Laxman just because of age... look at Sehwag & Gambhir... last two years.. how many 100 plus opening partnerships have we had..??? No point removing someone because he is getting old.

  • USIndianFan on January 17, 2012, 14:05 GMT

    Sorry, its not Laxman's choice, but the selectors. His performance is indicating that he must go. In fact Gambhir is right, maybe someone else should be picked for the opening job too. Talk about complacency!

  • on January 17, 2012, 14:04 GMT

    All Indian players should join Bollywood atleast they cant play they know how to act in front of camera

  • ambrishsundaram on January 17, 2012, 14:04 GMT

    I agree that Laxman, Dravid, Tendulkar and anybody else for that matter, have the right to decide when they retire. But that is not the point here. The point here is about selection based on performance. I will have no cause for complaint if Laxman or any of the others (seniors or others) are picked based on performance. If a player is performing to international standards when he is 60 years old, then nobody will complain about his selection. The problem here is about the lack of performances. Sehwag, Laxman et al are not contributing at all. Therefore, they have to be held accountable and will have to be dropped. Simple....

  • Salomihyd on January 17, 2012, 13:55 GMT

    Very True, Gambhir. Just think, if Laxman would have been successful in this tour everyone (ex-cricketers) would have said he is the only hope. I had lot of respect for Sourav dada but he lost commenting on Laxman, he has no moral right to say anything against Laxman. Sanjay Mangekar is not only bad commentator but also very bad in judging people, he commented on sachin few years back to retire. Actually, we want Sanjay to retire. Laxman is a class batsman and he remains. WE ARE ALL WITH YOU, LAXMAN. Let them cry for their money and you keep playing and win matches for India.

  • AidanFX on January 17, 2012, 13:50 GMT

    Yes I agree Gautam - he should retire tomarrow

  • on January 17, 2012, 13:50 GMT

    True Gambhir. Most of pundits were going for Virat's head and now some of them have started saying he is future captain of India. For VVS every match is last one even he scores double hundred. Its tough to play on fast tracks for Asian subcontinent teams.If England loses the series against Pakistan, all pundits will start calling for the head of Strauss other than blaming Ajmal for his teesra!!

  • on January 17, 2012, 13:49 GMT

    Well done Gambhir .... the road to redemption often lies within self reflection and acceptance and kudos for standing up for your team-mate

  • Shanmughan on January 17, 2012, 13:48 GMT

    We should stop being sentimental towards the players.At the end of the day,they are being paid to do it.Its difficult to understand why the team is still sticking with Laxman.If age was the only concern with Laxman,it would have been okay.But he is woefully out of form and is a liability outside the slip cordon when fielding.Indian cricket is committing a crime by not giving Rohit Sharma his debut.Virat Kohli has already shown the benefits of sticking with a young player,but picking Laxman who doesn't have more than 2 years left in his career is utter short sightedness from the Indian team management and could well be ruining a promising young batsman's career..!!

  • 777aditya on January 17, 2012, 13:44 GMT

    LEGEND? really? dont know why words are used so carelessly nowadays - even in commentary, they say 'its a great shot!" well, to be fair, Laxman has been a good servant of Indian cricket, but let's face it - he is a useless fielder and cant bowl, so basically his role in the team is just as a batsman - now, he is not even doing that - so he is coming under criticism and rightly so - PLEASE GO LAXMAN, you are over the hill. Look at what Australia did - dropped a players like Katich, Mark Waugh, Allan Border, Dean Jones and many more just because they got old - they were in pretty good form when they were shown the door, just does'nt happen in India, because everybody here is a LEGEND!

  • NALINWIJ on January 17, 2012, 13:37 GMT

    Nobody has the right to ask Laksman to retire but selectors need to blood younger players such as Rohit Sharma and Pujara if the team wishes to rise by 2015 and Laksman on current form may be the obvious candidate.Even great players decline and the reduced consistency is the first sign of decline and the team has to balance between their future when many promising candidates exist or wait for farther decline.

  • Kaze on January 17, 2012, 13:27 GMT

    Stupid statement the selectors have the right to determine selections and ultimately a players future.

  • on January 17, 2012, 13:24 GMT

    IF GAMBHIR FEELS SO BAD ABOUT VVS, THEN LET HIM RETIRE ALSO. THIS IS NOT ABOUT SOMEBODY'S FEELINGS

  • on January 17, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    Who cares if you are a legend ? or God. You are playing for the country and if you are not right playing well, selectors have the right to drop you.

  • Lagerkhan on January 17, 2012, 13:18 GMT

    What planet are you living on Gambhir? The selectors have the right to decide on his retirement if they don't pick him. The decision is quickly taken out of his hands!

  • Empty-Sequence on January 17, 2012, 13:16 GMT

    Look who is talking?? Gambhir should be first one to be kicked out of team. This guy lacks technique to play quality fast bowling and is an awful fielder(only VVS,Sehwag are worst fielder than him). This stupid guy needs to understand the fact that the TEAM comes first not the player.

  • Shan_Oz on January 17, 2012, 13:16 GMT

    No they shouldnt get tlo choose, otherwise players will always be greedy and never want to retire u nob Gambhir..i think its about time both go

  • sujikalyan on January 17, 2012, 13:15 GMT

    Gambhir said rightly..still Laxman, Dravid, Sachin have good capability to play. India should change the Captain

  • Yo-Patel on January 17, 2012, 13:15 GMT

    Well Said Gambhir, its not just Laxman who has failed, everyone failed just like England (Worlds #1 in test) failed against Pakistan at ongoing England vs Pakistan test match.

  • Mandyyboii_says on January 17, 2012, 13:14 GMT

    Totally agree with Gauti. It has been a collectively failure and it is unfair to point fingers at VVS only. VVS unfortunatly has always been on the firing line. I dont defend his batting failure, but iam not in favour of dicarding him out of the scheme of things as yet. I dont think any player would like a forced retirement they would like to leave with their heads held high. Let Laxman decide.

  • indianpunter on January 17, 2012, 13:13 GMT

    Collective denial..another hapless performance awaits the dejected indian fan. How Laxman can play in Adelaide beats me. It is undermining Rohit Sharma and making a mockery of Indian cricket.

  • JATINRATHOD on January 17, 2012, 13:12 GMT

    Its Simple Then U All Should Retire !

  • amit_071 on January 17, 2012, 13:12 GMT

    Part of the problem, don't you think? Players rather than selectors decide whether one should be playing or not!!

  • NajeebHuda on January 17, 2012, 13:05 GMT

    While Laxman has the right to decide when to retire, the BBCI also has the right to drop him from the squad.

  • on January 17, 2012, 13:04 GMT

    Then why selection committee in the first place ? let the seniors select the 11 !

  • drallion on January 17, 2012, 13:03 GMT

    Gambhir is correct to the extent that the media is not properly focussed. They are quick to criticise Laxman, and Dravid. The others have not done any better (sginificantly) and yet they are spared!! Dravid was the lone gladiator in England and yet, he is severely criticised. At the end of the Day 2, when Dravid was not out on 41, the Times of India carried a picture of Gambhir ducking under a bouncer with no bad comments. But why not Dravid who did stem the rot along with Kohli? Very biased reporting in India.

  • on January 17, 2012, 12:58 GMT

    Very well said by gambir, first talk about phasing out some t20 jokers from the team and then talk of vvs who has done a lot in home as well as overseas. Why is no one talking about the captain who's attitude and leadership was very poor. I think he is a t20 player, odi player. doesnt understand what is test cricket. so change the captain and then talk of grooming youngsters and phasing out seniors on whom we still depend even after a decade. They all deserve a great farewell, have some gratitude msd and co..

  • rohanbala on January 17, 2012, 12:45 GMT

    Gautam Gambhir is right in saying that VVS Laxman is the one to decide when to take the decision to retire. However, the players should also not react to criticisms from various quarters when not performing to their potential when they enjoy all the luxuries and receive adulation at other times.

  • on January 17, 2012, 12:30 GMT

    Great to hear some support for Laxman.... He is a legend of the game

  • on January 17, 2012, 12:24 GMT

    Classic case of idol worship. An Indian team member should be responsible to the sport and not wait to retire as per his whim. In that regard, the Indian big 3 deserve to go. Steve Waugh retired at the height of his form, same with Dean Jones, Glen McGrath. Why can't we adopt this attitude of being thorough professionals and be true to our work.

    In this whole episode of drama, comments and action, I seriously find only Anil Kumble sensible. There should have been succession plan 2 years ago. We are struggling to find good bowlers. The 3rd test might be a consolation, but the 2nd test should still set the alarm bells ringing.

    If Dhoni believes his technique is not right for tests, why is he playing the game?

    If Sehwag blames a tail-ender for not following his orders, why is he not following the team orders and play sensibly? Why does he always throw his bat and get caught in the slip and gully region?

    Rahane and Rohit deserve their due, so does Badrinath and loads of playe

  • KarachiKid on January 17, 2012, 12:17 GMT

    Fully agreed. My respect for Gambhir has increased substantially. Laxman has proven time and again he is fighter and has single handedly won India many matches, especially against the best, i.e., Aussies. You can hardly blame the three giants, Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman for recent Indian test drought. Its lack of bowling resources and fitness concerns amongst the good ones like Zaheer.

  • m_kamb on January 17, 2012, 12:16 GMT

    criticize DHONI only,Laxman save so many matches for INDIA but DHONI did mothing , he is absolute ZERO,

  • serious-am-i on January 17, 2012, 12:15 GMT

    Damn not again. So, Rohit will be bench warmed even for the final test. Pathetic !!! Let him not retire, let VVS be dropped if he some how magically gains form, he can be given 1 series to retire on a high note.

  • on January 17, 2012, 12:15 GMT

    Is d legend bigger than d future of indian cricket?

  • on January 17, 2012, 12:13 GMT

    YOU know Gambhir makes a valid point in fact rahul, sachin and virat should be retained....with sachin give a time line...everyone else should be dropped....

  • on January 17, 2012, 12:10 GMT

    Yes it is his right to decide when to retire. But place in Indian cricket team is not his right. For that he should be dropped for Adelaide. If gambhir wants to support laxman instead of concentrating on batting, he can join him on bench.

  • on January 17, 2012, 12:08 GMT

    Hello Gambhir..no body is greater than game..not performing..no place..thats it..on top of that youngsters are keep on waiting for years..its already too late..ur place is also under severe threat..first look at urself before backing any1...u r just an asian pitches palyer..

  • tapas.mahajan on January 17, 2012, 12:07 GMT

    Few Interesting Statistics

    In Australia Average of Indians Laxman = 17 Gambhir = 28.8 Dhoni = 17 Rahul = 28 Sehwag = 23.6 Against West Indies Average of Indians Laxman = 99.33 (1 Century and 1 Half Century) Gambhir = 39 Dhoni = 41 Rahul = 63.8 Sehwag = 49 Against England Average of Indians Gambhir = 22.25 Sehwag = 10.25 (2 Duck) Dhoni = 31.4 Laxman = 22.75 Dravid = 57

    Who will be out from Indian Test Squade .......Laxman, Gambhir, Sehwag or Dhoni?????? Statistics shows Dhone is on top.........What selector will do?

  • on January 17, 2012, 12:02 GMT

    matured speech by gambir... india d whole unit collectively failed.. the reason for the failure was initiated by viru nd gauti as both failed to bat atleast fr 20 overs... hope our stalwarts show their full skill in adelaide...

  • indyarox on January 17, 2012, 11:48 GMT

    I think what he means to say is dont drop just one person but drop the entire batting line up. lol

  • musingsofamoron on January 17, 2012, 11:45 GMT

    Fully agree with Gambhir. Laxman is truly a legend and its upto him to decide when he should go. A swallow maketh not a summer and a single series can never be a yardstick. Also the entire batting unit has to be criticised including Tendulkar (while Dravid is criticised for getting bowled, Tendulkar's propensity to get out LBW is rarely discussed). Youth could be a solution but not in the batting department. You need young (I mean young by fitness/attitude not age. Ishant is definitely old on these parameters) bowlers who are energetic and would give it all. Unfortunately with the exception of Umesh Yadav (he just makes the cut), none of the other Indian bowlers come within striking distance. Therein lies the problem. Australia would not have prepared such tracks if India had good and aggressive bowlers in its ranks. I doubt whether South Africa, Pakistan or England would play on such tracks when they tour Australia!!!

  • on January 17, 2012, 11:45 GMT

    Yes Criticising only Laxman is abit too harsh.Every Batsman in the side had play below their true Potential.Why he should be made scape goat

  • on January 17, 2012, 11:44 GMT

    well said...taking ownership for the failure is the best thing to do...the selectors have nothing to do with the debacle....these things happen in cricket....we have been and will always be there for you guys.... Adelaide redemption time.... play like world champions in the ODI's.... #BleedBlue

  • sjitendran on January 17, 2012, 11:43 GMT

    I don't understand Gauti's point. Does he says that do not blame only Laxman. So not only Laxman the whole team of batters should be kicked out. Fans expected lot from Laxman as this series is against Australia. It is pathetic to see Laxman caught like a bunny in head lights and does not know what to do. All the other batsmen have scored atleast half a century in series.Even Ashwin has scored lot of runs. That is why fans are disappointed with Laxman

  • AbhinavJohnson on January 17, 2012, 11:43 GMT

    Gambhir is right in saying no one has the right to decide when Laxman should retire but we can always drop him. Let him go and slog it out in the domestic level rather tolerating his lean patch forever. It shouldnt matter whether you are 20 or 35 if you are not playing well you dont deserve a place in the team.

  • on January 17, 2012, 11:40 GMT

    gambir u said it, no one have the right to tell ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  • on January 17, 2012, 11:39 GMT

    Fine, don't retire; get dropped. Technically I have yet to officially retire from international cricket too...

  • VVS_a_class_act on January 17, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    Great!!!!!!!! This is the spirit required. Well done Gouthi. Total team failed collectively. Then why to blame only one person? Laxaman is a true gentleman, he knows when to quit. He wont wait till they push him out. Thanks GG for backing the unsung hero of Indian cricket....VVS. I wish VVS will bid his adieu after the Ind- Eng home series. Thats is the better time. Love u VVS.

  • ssenthil on January 17, 2012, 11:32 GMT

    How about Dropping, which is not in the Player hand. Selectors should drop VVS Laxman, V Sehwag and G Gambhir . Dravid can play until the end of this year up to England tour to India then he also has to be replaced while Sachin has to be replaced by the end of 2013. Gambhir must be dropped at first along with Laxman and Sehwag for the upcoming Home test series

  • lgnandan on January 17, 2012, 11:31 GMT

    Gambhir has rightly said about VVS. There should be limit for criticism. It happens only in India.

  • cond_cool on January 17, 2012, 11:28 GMT

    its like speaking like venna

  • ashishcooltech on January 17, 2012, 11:26 GMT

    Whatever Gambhir is saying makes no sense whatsoever. Firstly, no-one is asking Laxman to retire. People are asking him to be dropped for his poor performance. If he still has the desire to play, he can always go back to domestic cricket, perform and earn his place back. But since that is very improbable considering his age ( and his complete lack of desire to be fitter or athletic ), it is being speculated that it would be best for him to retire than being dropped. Secondly: "I have always believed you should not criticise only one or two people", this is just like a schoolkid remark where you feel a little less uncomfortable when the whole class is caught in some wrong act rather than just one person. Whoever will not perform will be individually criticized. No. 1 culprit is Laxman and No.2 is you Mr. Gambhir.

  • Amit416 on January 17, 2012, 11:24 GMT

    And who the hell gambhir is to tell no body should speak their mind.you guys are not doing your family business in the indian team.You all are representing a nation and when our team get humiliated the entire cricket lover feel the same.You guys are not performing since ages and still feel that no one should comment on your performance and question your place in the team.Dont worry mr. gambhir one or two bad performance and you will be on laxhman's boat. Either perform or make way for others..

  • Beazle on January 17, 2012, 11:23 GMT

    Behold yet again the extent of player power in India where their players are bigger than the team. If a player - ANY PLAYER -does not perform over a period of time, he should be in danger of being dropped. The player should not be able to pick his own time.

  • on January 17, 2012, 11:23 GMT

    lovely said gambhir......everytime indian team doesnt play well the first name to come to everyone's lip is laxman....so sad that even though he won many matches for the country never did he get the fame he deserved and on the other side....he is the first to be pin pointed.....even the icc never recognises such people....just as a simple example.....he was not even nominated by ICC/BCCI for the best test player of the year(i just talked abt NOMINATION not the winner)...he hit a century in SL in aug 2010 which won the match for india and thus the series was leveled;in nov he hit that 70 odd runs against aus to win the match by a wicket and take lead in the series; in dec 2010 when india was about 60/4 agains NZL he hit a magnificant 90 odd runs to save india(he missed his century coz of a wrong decision)....in dec 2010 against SA in SA he hit 90 odd runs again when the next highest score from both teams was less than 40 and thus won the match and leveled the series....

  • Abhiramb on January 17, 2012, 11:22 GMT

    My respect for Gambhir as a person has gone up 2 notches. It takes guts to stand by colleague and to say that the whole team is to blame and not an individual. Well done Gambhir!

  • on January 17, 2012, 11:21 GMT

    totally agreed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • on January 17, 2012, 11:19 GMT

    You are right Gautam. Along with him, you and Sehwag must be shown the door as all of you are equally responsible. Especially Sehwag must be out for choosing Club over country when he decided to play in IPL with injured shoulder. Such players must be thrown out no matter how good they are.

  • joseyesu on January 17, 2012, 11:15 GMT

    Great spirit from Gambir. It shows how bonded they are. We too want to have the bond for a long time. But play well

  • ChuckyDoll on January 17, 2012, 11:11 GMT

    Yeah, Gambhir. Do you want to voluntarily step down and let someone else try ? You are right; the entire 11 stinks. Happy now ? Are you suggesting we replace the entire top 7 ?

  • on January 17, 2012, 11:10 GMT

    If Laxman scores double century in adelaide then What?????

  • athar.cricket on January 17, 2012, 11:08 GMT

    very well said by gambhir.he has said all the the things by which people adore laxman.these ex cricketers they will comment as they are not part of the team which is currently batlling out there Have these ex cricketers forgotten who came to rescue for the team umpteen number of times when the team was down.it was this legendary cricketer vvs laxman who batted for hours to save the test match.without laxman's services india would not have become number1 test team.you can't judge by a handfull of innings.he is a true legend.we should respect him.he has the right of deciding about his career.these ex cricketers are no one to decide about his career.i'm sure he will give a strong reply to these foolish ex cricketers by coming to form.

  • me.nuralam on January 17, 2012, 11:08 GMT

    Lots and lots of thanks to Gautam Gambhir for backing up the legend VVS Laxman. He is absolutely right!!!

  • on January 17, 2012, 11:07 GMT

    Well said Man...It seems like somebody is waiting for a chance to make a vacancy.. and trying to grab it for some others in the place of a man who have the least support among the all... Why only he should take the responsibility?

  • on January 17, 2012, 11:04 GMT

    Gambir is absolutely right in telling that it is not for the ex players or anyone else to call for Lakshman's removal or calling for him to retire. All the senior players have played their part in giving India the No. 1 status in the past. If the Indian team does not perform well in overseas that does not mean that the players are not good. The pressure has got on to them and even the current England team who is number 1 in the world is not performing well in Dubai against Pakistan. Does that mean the players are to be phased out.

    Come on guys even the Aussies who are supposedly playing well were thrashed by England and they did not ask Ponting who was under-performing to leave and he is still there. Lakshman has couple of more years' test cricket left in him and so do Dravid and Tendulkar. Leave them alone and make sure they get a better opening pair first before the rest of the players start performing

  • Nev_19 on January 17, 2012, 11:03 GMT

    Mr. Gambhir is speaking as if the national team is his JAAGIR (=fiefdom). It is precisely because of such mindsets/attitudes that we are languishing - without requisite temeprament or technique required by Test cricket. Gambhir would do us all fans a favor by focussing on his iPL contract. I say, throw al the senior bums (incl. V Sehwag) out, but for Sachin Tendulkar, and Zaheer Khan. We'll be so much better off with youth dominating the team.

  • SRThero on January 17, 2012, 11:01 GMT

    Laxman should retire due to lacking of fast running between wickets and field at the same time Gambir said was true.laxman's decision is to be consider.He is great player for india let him choose. Dhoni must retire first from test cricket before laxman.

  • on January 17, 2012, 11:01 GMT

    The Ex Players who are gunning for Laxman's ouster , have not even won half the matches as laxman.

  • on January 17, 2012, 11:01 GMT

    a failure is supporting another failure .... all these fellas must be kicked outta the team....

  • on January 17, 2012, 10:59 GMT

    Like what he said...well said

  • FoollyFedUp on January 17, 2012, 10:55 GMT

    Well said, Gambhir... always felt that VVS was being picked upon, ONLY because he had no backers. People often cite his failures in England and Australia. But what may I ask were Sehwag, Gambhir, SRT (to some extent) and Dhoni upto ? Not that they blazed or grafted to win or draw anything for India.

  • bipulkumar on January 17, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    Nonsense. It's Laxman's call when he will retire but it's none of Laxman's business to decide when he is dropped from playing XI. These senior players has no accountability left and have zero motivation to perform as their place in XI never comes under pressure.

  • kingcobra85 on January 17, 2012, 10:52 GMT

    who the heck does gambhir think he is ? No one has the right to pick when he wants to go! Its the teams decision when a player has to go! Nobody is above the game.

  • drvp on January 17, 2012, 10:51 GMT

    good to know they are supporting each other( at least gambhir has voiced his opinion ) in these tough times,,,,,laxman has had a poor tour , but so has dravid....and sehwag too...they seem to have got off with less flak....

  • on January 17, 2012, 10:50 GMT

    Gambhir you have been chosen to represent your country. In that way you are lucky to do that. You may be a legend but you should still know when to move out when you are not performing to the desired level. Moreover the way you are playing it is just like running away rather than fighting it out. Given that you are a professional cricketer please move out and give others a deserved chance to represent your country.

  • chandanr on January 17, 2012, 10:49 GMT

    rightly said gambhir..people dont know what they are talking. its not fair to speak ill about such a great player like laxman.really i donno why people arent pointing out sewhag who is also mainly responsible for the loss..not even a single time he has provided a good start..laxman should continue playing...

  • Ashish133 on January 17, 2012, 10:48 GMT

    Why seven? it should be six. Virat showed some character in the last test not once but twice. Not only these six should be criticized but should be rested. They have been worn out out serving INDIA. Its time these six make way for another six. Its better to lose with a young inexperience team. Atleast they'll learn from there mistakes and take the game more seriously than the super-hyped players.

  • on January 17, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    With Due RESPECT to what Gambhir says and the entire STALWARTS of INDIAN CRICKET, a player can definitely decide when he or she wud retire. BUT STILL that decision should not COST the TEAM. With in no time INDIA has been pushed down the LADDER of RANKINGS. Is that what these players wish to GIVE its NATION by hanging around without contributing to the success? Forget about the defeat (7 games in a row) just look @ the way they were blown. With age certain reflexes will be slow and they need to agree to that NATURAL phenomenon and ACT WISE. If SACHIN still keeps saying I AM NJOING MY GAME (inspite of the lossess) can we DIGEST it. THINK ABOUT COUNTRY GUYS...the whole NATION is corrupt WHOM SHUD WE BLAME....

  • riteshshah07 on January 17, 2012, 10:45 GMT

    Gambhir has made the right point. All the 6 top order have failed together, critise all of them. Why only Laxman

  • leleraja on January 17, 2012, 10:45 GMT

    Gautham, there is no sense in your words. Responsibility lies with each and every individual and it is not a 'draupati' to be shared by the top 6 batsman!!!

  • baskar_guha on January 17, 2012, 10:43 GMT

    I am pleased to see Gambhir come out and speak his mind. With the Indian media and fans completely out of control, it is time that players speak their mind. I am very confident that a classy cricketer and person like Laxman will retire when he knows it is time. To single him out as the one who should be axed, the one who should be made to retire is very disappointing conduct by the media and the fans. One word captures what they are being - nasty.

  • Rahul_78 on January 17, 2012, 10:42 GMT

    Good to see Gauti hasnt decided to abandon the sinking ship. What he says makes a lot of sense. It is individuals right to decide when to retire, why put pressure on the person? If he is under performing then the selectors are there to drop him. Why is it that the player has to pull the trigger on himself? It would be sensible on part of selectors to give a clear message to the seniors on what is expected of them and a proper plan to ease them out of sight should have been in place long back. If the seniors fail to achieve the given goals (which they have failed spectacularly in this series) then be ruthless and sack them but leave the retirement issue up to the individuals.

  • on January 17, 2012, 10:33 GMT

    first off all point out the coach ,that is not good for team india.guru gary was guided well team india ,when india lost a single match in abroad .......in the very next match india comback well.so it is not fault of playears......................................

  • moshin12345 on January 17, 2012, 10:31 GMT

    i am watching from the end of second test why cricinfo is targeting vvs laxman except one or two batsmen every body has under performed in england nd australia series

  • anver777 on January 17, 2012, 10:30 GMT

    I feel "Very Very Sad" for "Very Very Special" Laxman who have done yeoman services for Ind test cricket in the past..... no wonder !!! any class player goes through bad patches, unfortunately for him, he's in bad form at the later stage of his career !!!!!

  • on January 17, 2012, 10:27 GMT

    very well said gambhir...ppl should remember what he has done for his team...i don,t think there will b a player like him in future for indian cricket team...

  • on January 17, 2012, 10:26 GMT

    gambhir......is very right about what he have said.....for laxman and team india...

    surely our " LAXMAN " will back in form with very good innings in adelaide test...

  • Nish8738 on January 17, 2012, 10:25 GMT

    Gambhir better start worrying about his on position in the team. there are better openers in india ready to replace you. Viru is not far from the retirement either. India should drop one of the seniors to play rohit sharma. it doesn't matter who it is going to be. they can play rohit as an opener with sehwag or gambhir. Vinay kumar is gone for sure even michael hussey bowled better than him and better pace. Drop ishant sharma and play ashwin and ojha.

  • Gizza on January 17, 2012, 10:24 GMT

    Nobody has the right to decide when a cricketer should retire but some people do have the authority to decide when to drop an aging cricketer (and hence put them on verge of retirement). Or at least drop temporarily say for one test. At least one fresh face will be in the team due to Dhoni's slow over rate but a couple more would be welcome to make the Adelaide Test regain some sort of interest among the public (Both Indian and Australian).

  • satish619chandar on January 17, 2012, 10:21 GMT

    Regarding Laxman's right, it is selectors need to drop him.. He was the best managing the team to win from impossible positions in 4 matches in last couple of years.. But we also need to see that he failed in many matches where we expected more contribution from him.. He did let down the team with many failures than others - Except the openers who always plays the same natural game even when they knew playing flashy drive or fishing would get them.. You cant get away easily especially when whole national fans are deflated..

  • on January 17, 2012, 10:21 GMT

    really ??? !!!! " NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHEN HE SHOULD RETIRE...."!!!! what about Sourav Ganguly ??? he was forced to retire from International cricket..... Ganguly was just having a bad time in his carrier just like all the great players have/had and all the damn selectors forced him to retire from Cricket !!!! now Dhoni,Dravid,Laxman but still everybody is silent........ Really !!!!!!! It is only possible in India.........

  • zuber21886 on January 17, 2012, 10:20 GMT

    rightly said and if anybody wants to see an example of it, watch the live Pak vs Eng match going on (Eng- 120-7)

  • satish619chandar on January 17, 2012, 10:18 GMT

    When u don't do well, u ll get flak from anyone.. To save flak from all quarters, need to do only one thing.. Do it on the field.. Speaking like this in the media and again fishing outside off to get caught behind wickets wont do any good Gauti.. If the entire batting unit failed, take off from cricket for some period yourself and then regain your form by playing next level cricket.. I wont score runs but you should not criticize me and drop me??

  • Rajesh. on January 17, 2012, 10:17 GMT

    Well said Gautam....... good to know that at least his team mates knows Laxman's immense value and acknowledge his contribution to Team India

  • on January 17, 2012, 10:17 GMT

    WOW!! GAUTI...its an awesome support for a team mate.. you are a true CRICKETER..

    You are very very positive and Good person.. you will go miles..with this kind of good attitude..

    cos Attitude determines Altitude..

  • on January 17, 2012, 10:14 GMT

    good...retire all top 7 batsmen then

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  • on January 17, 2012, 10:14 GMT

    good...retire all top 7 batsmen then

  • on January 17, 2012, 10:17 GMT

    WOW!! GAUTI...its an awesome support for a team mate.. you are a true CRICKETER..

    You are very very positive and Good person.. you will go miles..with this kind of good attitude..

    cos Attitude determines Altitude..

  • Rajesh. on January 17, 2012, 10:17 GMT

    Well said Gautam....... good to know that at least his team mates knows Laxman's immense value and acknowledge his contribution to Team India

  • satish619chandar on January 17, 2012, 10:18 GMT

    When u don't do well, u ll get flak from anyone.. To save flak from all quarters, need to do only one thing.. Do it on the field.. Speaking like this in the media and again fishing outside off to get caught behind wickets wont do any good Gauti.. If the entire batting unit failed, take off from cricket for some period yourself and then regain your form by playing next level cricket.. I wont score runs but you should not criticize me and drop me??

  • zuber21886 on January 17, 2012, 10:20 GMT

    rightly said and if anybody wants to see an example of it, watch the live Pak vs Eng match going on (Eng- 120-7)

  • on January 17, 2012, 10:21 GMT

    really ??? !!!! " NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHEN HE SHOULD RETIRE...."!!!! what about Sourav Ganguly ??? he was forced to retire from International cricket..... Ganguly was just having a bad time in his carrier just like all the great players have/had and all the damn selectors forced him to retire from Cricket !!!! now Dhoni,Dravid,Laxman but still everybody is silent........ Really !!!!!!! It is only possible in India.........

  • satish619chandar on January 17, 2012, 10:21 GMT

    Regarding Laxman's right, it is selectors need to drop him.. He was the best managing the team to win from impossible positions in 4 matches in last couple of years.. But we also need to see that he failed in many matches where we expected more contribution from him.. He did let down the team with many failures than others - Except the openers who always plays the same natural game even when they knew playing flashy drive or fishing would get them.. You cant get away easily especially when whole national fans are deflated..

  • Gizza on January 17, 2012, 10:24 GMT

    Nobody has the right to decide when a cricketer should retire but some people do have the authority to decide when to drop an aging cricketer (and hence put them on verge of retirement). Or at least drop temporarily say for one test. At least one fresh face will be in the team due to Dhoni's slow over rate but a couple more would be welcome to make the Adelaide Test regain some sort of interest among the public (Both Indian and Australian).

  • Nish8738 on January 17, 2012, 10:25 GMT

    Gambhir better start worrying about his on position in the team. there are better openers in india ready to replace you. Viru is not far from the retirement either. India should drop one of the seniors to play rohit sharma. it doesn't matter who it is going to be. they can play rohit as an opener with sehwag or gambhir. Vinay kumar is gone for sure even michael hussey bowled better than him and better pace. Drop ishant sharma and play ashwin and ojha.

  • on January 17, 2012, 10:26 GMT

    gambhir......is very right about what he have said.....for laxman and team india...

    surely our " LAXMAN " will back in form with very good innings in adelaide test...