Australia news November 18, 2011

Pace quartet to duel for Australia A

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Ben Hilfenhaus, James Pattinson, Mitchell Starc and Ben Cutting will duel for the Test spot likely to be left open by the injured Ryan Harris when Australia A face New Zealand in Brisbane from November 24.

The pace quartet was named in a 12-man Australia A squad, the first to be chosen by Cricket Australia's new selection panel of John Inverarity, Rod Marsh, Andy Bichel and the captain Michael Clarke.

The team will be led by Tasmania's highly-regarded captain George Bailey, while the batsmen selected include the national team's current "next reserve" David Warner, Ed Cowan, Nic Maddinson, and Tom Cooper, who has previously represented Holland but is enjoying a strong start to the season for South Australia.

The wicketkeeper Matthew Wade can place enormous pressure on the incumbent gloveman Brad Haddin with a strong showing against the tourists.

"The National Selection Panel has chosen an exciting group of players in this 12-man Australia A squad who we believe have considerable potential and are therefore having opportunity invested in them," Inverarity said.

"There is obviously a great deal of interest in each of these players in terms of higher honours but first we look forward to this Australia A team being well led by Tasmanian George Bailey and giving a strong overall performance against the New Zealanders next week.

"Ryan Harris' current hip injury means the fast bowlers selected in this squad will be carefully monitored with six Test matches in succession throughout the Australian summer."

Australia A squad: George Bailey (capt), David Warner, Michael Beer, Tom Cooper, Ed Cowan, Ben Cutting, Ben Hilfenhaus, Nic Maddinson, James Pattinson, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc, Matthew Wade (wk).

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  • POSTED BY Dashgar on | November 21, 2011, 16:41 GMT

    With Ponting and Haddin averaging under 20 with the bat, Hughes under 30 and Johnson and Siddle over 50 with the ball in SA, not to mention injuries to Watson and Marsh, every player on this team must be considered a chance for a baggy green. Exciting times

  • POSTED BY smudgeon on | November 21, 2011, 0:59 GMT

    Winsome, Bailey has a pair of strong hundreds to his name this season, both of them under pressure when his team needed him (one of which earned him man of the match against the Redbacks). Hardly a 'bleh' season, I'd say. I think a lot of people overlook George Bailey because of his overall stats and un-sexy batting, but he's quite a strong, gritty batsman, he leads from the front when his team needs him, and is a straight-talker - traits people almost never fail to underestimate. However, his selection here is probably less about potential higher-honours, and more about the high regard his captaincy is held in around domestic circles.

  • POSTED BY zenboomerang on | November 21, 2011, 0:56 GMT

    Can't see why Bailey & Beer made the 'A' team... that is our next best team?... Seems the old boys school is still working at CA... My 'A' team: Warner, Lynn, Cooper, Cowan, Smith, Wade (wk), Christian, O'Keefe (capt), Butterworth, Starc, Cutting... 5 proven bowlers with a spare in Smith... 6 batters with 3 bowlers capable of getting very useful runs...

  • POSTED BY Meety on | November 20, 2011, 7:15 GMT

    @hyclass - I agree that Smith has been derided far more than merited. His bowling has seemed to suffer from lack of confidence & a bit of rustiness. He is a young bloke who could & should develop into a fine Test cricket as an allrounder. @Sylvester Tan - agree fully re Mitch Marsh, I think his bowling is far & away his best asset in FC cricket. His batting atm is worse than what you would expect from someone batting at #8.

  • POSTED BY hyclass on | November 20, 2011, 1:29 GMT

    Last season,Cowan was awarded the player of the Shield Final for his 154 runs for the match,despite Hughes making 231 runs in the same match.His last innings aside,his Shield season has been modest.His selection seems odd as neither his career record nor age are on his side.Fortunately,he will be playing against an ordinary NZ team from which little can be deduced in candidacy terms.Maddinsons season has been equally disappointing.Only his youth and the moderate start of other candidates to this season saves him.Surely the Beer joke has run its course.If it hadnt been Warne suggesting him,as a favour to a former club team mate,he wouldnt be playing at this level.Im in favour of Smith who has more about him than he is given credit for.At 22,like Hughes before him,he has had to endure the wrath of a mythical 'technique deficiency' media campaign,created by Nielsen and Co to deflect attention away from their disgraceful behaviour.Id like to see Maxwell,Rogers & D.Hussey given opportunity.

  • POSTED BY on | November 19, 2011, 21:11 GMT

    Smith has been picked for his batting so SOK wasn't in competition with him. Mitch Marsh certainly shouldn't be picked on his batting atm, bowling certainly but we got quite a few of them. We don't really have too many batsmen putting their hand up this season who are realistically in contention. Liam Davis has an overall average of 30 so he's a long way off but I'd have rewarded his excellent form with a spot in the A side.

    And on people using SOK average start to the season for the reason he isn't in the side, really now we are happy to use the stats card? Where was this last season?

  • POSTED BY on | November 19, 2011, 20:31 GMT

    Now I have a question toponder did Bailey get asay on the selection as well because i think he should of. Iknow hewould be inclined to pick his own men but he still could have brought a lot more to the table. He probaly would of chosen the combination of buterworth and o keefe. Butterworth as he is hisown player and o keefe ashe would have seen him around a lot

  • POSTED BY Dashgar on | November 19, 2011, 13:08 GMT

    @Winsome, Bailey is 4th on the run scorers list this year, hardly been picked on one game. I also think Cutting is right at the top of the pecking order, I'll be very surprised if he doesn't debut against NZ.

  • POSTED BY tpjpower on | November 19, 2011, 11:09 GMT

    Ben Cutting is the best bowler in Australia apart from Harris. Harris is injured. Get Cutting in for the first Test.

  • POSTED BY Winsome on | November 19, 2011, 7:55 GMT

    It's an interesting squad, but it seems that they've have picked it on the last game played rather than season's form as Starc, Cowan, Bailey even Hilfenhaus are having fairly bleh seasons so far. I guess they have been forced into some of these picks through the amount of injuries going. Cutting is a great pick, but even though he's the best bowler in the Shield I'm sure he's miles down the pecking order. He's not getting his tyres pumped by the media in the way that Cummins, Pattinson and Starc are. Butterworth might as well kiss his chances of even Aus A representation goodbye if they won't pick him considering how average the talent is around Aus domestic cricket.

  • POSTED BY Dashgar on | November 21, 2011, 16:41 GMT

    With Ponting and Haddin averaging under 20 with the bat, Hughes under 30 and Johnson and Siddle over 50 with the ball in SA, not to mention injuries to Watson and Marsh, every player on this team must be considered a chance for a baggy green. Exciting times

  • POSTED BY smudgeon on | November 21, 2011, 0:59 GMT

    Winsome, Bailey has a pair of strong hundreds to his name this season, both of them under pressure when his team needed him (one of which earned him man of the match against the Redbacks). Hardly a 'bleh' season, I'd say. I think a lot of people overlook George Bailey because of his overall stats and un-sexy batting, but he's quite a strong, gritty batsman, he leads from the front when his team needs him, and is a straight-talker - traits people almost never fail to underestimate. However, his selection here is probably less about potential higher-honours, and more about the high regard his captaincy is held in around domestic circles.

  • POSTED BY zenboomerang on | November 21, 2011, 0:56 GMT

    Can't see why Bailey & Beer made the 'A' team... that is our next best team?... Seems the old boys school is still working at CA... My 'A' team: Warner, Lynn, Cooper, Cowan, Smith, Wade (wk), Christian, O'Keefe (capt), Butterworth, Starc, Cutting... 5 proven bowlers with a spare in Smith... 6 batters with 3 bowlers capable of getting very useful runs...

  • POSTED BY Meety on | November 20, 2011, 7:15 GMT

    @hyclass - I agree that Smith has been derided far more than merited. His bowling has seemed to suffer from lack of confidence & a bit of rustiness. He is a young bloke who could & should develop into a fine Test cricket as an allrounder. @Sylvester Tan - agree fully re Mitch Marsh, I think his bowling is far & away his best asset in FC cricket. His batting atm is worse than what you would expect from someone batting at #8.

  • POSTED BY hyclass on | November 20, 2011, 1:29 GMT

    Last season,Cowan was awarded the player of the Shield Final for his 154 runs for the match,despite Hughes making 231 runs in the same match.His last innings aside,his Shield season has been modest.His selection seems odd as neither his career record nor age are on his side.Fortunately,he will be playing against an ordinary NZ team from which little can be deduced in candidacy terms.Maddinsons season has been equally disappointing.Only his youth and the moderate start of other candidates to this season saves him.Surely the Beer joke has run its course.If it hadnt been Warne suggesting him,as a favour to a former club team mate,he wouldnt be playing at this level.Im in favour of Smith who has more about him than he is given credit for.At 22,like Hughes before him,he has had to endure the wrath of a mythical 'technique deficiency' media campaign,created by Nielsen and Co to deflect attention away from their disgraceful behaviour.Id like to see Maxwell,Rogers & D.Hussey given opportunity.

  • POSTED BY on | November 19, 2011, 21:11 GMT

    Smith has been picked for his batting so SOK wasn't in competition with him. Mitch Marsh certainly shouldn't be picked on his batting atm, bowling certainly but we got quite a few of them. We don't really have too many batsmen putting their hand up this season who are realistically in contention. Liam Davis has an overall average of 30 so he's a long way off but I'd have rewarded his excellent form with a spot in the A side.

    And on people using SOK average start to the season for the reason he isn't in the side, really now we are happy to use the stats card? Where was this last season?

  • POSTED BY on | November 19, 2011, 20:31 GMT

    Now I have a question toponder did Bailey get asay on the selection as well because i think he should of. Iknow hewould be inclined to pick his own men but he still could have brought a lot more to the table. He probaly would of chosen the combination of buterworth and o keefe. Butterworth as he is hisown player and o keefe ashe would have seen him around a lot

  • POSTED BY Dashgar on | November 19, 2011, 13:08 GMT

    @Winsome, Bailey is 4th on the run scorers list this year, hardly been picked on one game. I also think Cutting is right at the top of the pecking order, I'll be very surprised if he doesn't debut against NZ.

  • POSTED BY tpjpower on | November 19, 2011, 11:09 GMT

    Ben Cutting is the best bowler in Australia apart from Harris. Harris is injured. Get Cutting in for the first Test.

  • POSTED BY Winsome on | November 19, 2011, 7:55 GMT

    It's an interesting squad, but it seems that they've have picked it on the last game played rather than season's form as Starc, Cowan, Bailey even Hilfenhaus are having fairly bleh seasons so far. I guess they have been forced into some of these picks through the amount of injuries going. Cutting is a great pick, but even though he's the best bowler in the Shield I'm sure he's miles down the pecking order. He's not getting his tyres pumped by the media in the way that Cummins, Pattinson and Starc are. Butterworth might as well kiss his chances of even Aus A representation goodbye if they won't pick him considering how average the talent is around Aus domestic cricket.

  • POSTED BY hyclass on | November 19, 2011, 7:42 GMT

    @Micheal Mina...A myth is doing the rounds,that Butterworths excellent record is due to playing on Tas greendecks.Its completely untrue.In descending order of bowling average,his record on Australian grounds is as follows: Gabba-31.20, SCG-27.54, Bellerive-26.98, WACA-20.29, Adelaide Oval-19.62, MCG-12.76.On the notoriously flat wickets & small fast grounds in Zimbabwe for Australia A,he took 2/43 and 0/21. Batsmen had a field day & its was the rationale used to push Warners cause ahead of time,despite Ferguson,Hughes & Finches success. A great deal more good would accrue if due credit was given to players Shield records over time & not fanciful theories.Warner averages 46 for NSW.His recent 100 was vs weak Sth Aust on a flat,tiny Bankstown Oval.Hes never played the Gabba or Adelaide & made 0 in his only innings at the WACA.He averages 34 at the SCG & 24.50 at Bellerive.His big averages:Harare Sports Club-211,Harare Country Club-65,Bankstown Oval-148,Newcastle No.1 Sports Ground-76.

  • POSTED BY hyclass on | November 19, 2011, 7:06 GMT

    @Dashgar..I fail to understand the omission of O'Keefe,particularly given the new selection panel.His recent game was at his usual outstanding level.Re spinners,I like O'Keefe for Tests with Boyce as the understudy & Doherty for ODI. Lyon wouldnt even be in my A squad.Nor would Beer.With regard to Ferguson,I feel his game is excellent for ODI but he lacks stamina for the longer form,hence his modest results.All Warners success is on flat tracks,small grounds and modest attacks.He needs a Shield season to prove his game.I mentioned Maxwell last season,as an effective offspinner & spectacularly fast scoring batsman at 1st class level.He also needs a full Shield season.I like Neville as a wicket-keeper batsman ahead of Paine but behind Wade.Im surprised Butterworth is overlooked.His record on all grounds is outstanding.I would have Cummins in ODI or T20,not Tests.Coulter-Nile is also genuinely quick with a brilliant short career record & a real Test option.Cutting is also making his mark.

  • POSTED BY on | November 19, 2011, 6:08 GMT

    I'm fairly sure Cummins and Copeland are well ahead of that lot any day. None of them are in line for a test spot.

  • POSTED BY on | November 19, 2011, 5:26 GMT

    @Andrew-Schulz... fair enough, I did not see O'Keefe bat, but you make your own luck and he has made runs before, this isn't the first time. He has a confidence about him and working with Murali during the IPL would have helped him tactically as a bowler (not so much in technique). He played for Aus A vs England last year and got KP with a beauty and took 4-for and made a 50 and again was not selected. Can't really fathom why to be honest. On Andrew MacDonald, his form last year with the bat was simply superb and was very aggressive. His bowling, wicket to wicket, is more than handy and Hope has 4 years on him, so he'd never get picked. Hopes is a lot better than Hastings, but who was sent to the World Cup? Henriques is wasted potential, Faulker is still a bit raw but I like what I have seen and Butterworth got the bulk of his wickets last year and did so in Tasmania - I don't think he has the mettle for test cricket and is not selected for the same reasons Ian Harvey wasn't.

  • POSTED BY whitesXI on | November 19, 2011, 2:17 GMT

    1- Warner, 2- Quiney, 3- Khawaja, 4- Ferguson 5- Bailey, 6- Wade 7- Maxwell, 8- Faulkner 9- O'keefe 10- Pattinson 11- Cutting 12 man - George, with both Starc and Cooper unlucky to miss out. Or George plays at 11 and Maxwell goes to 12 would also work. This would give Khawaja some time in the middle that he lacks at the moment. Quiney I rate higher than Cowan and is in better form (feel free to disagree). I have just never seen Smith as a no.6 or a great spinner, despite his rave reviews and early promotion (again potential outweighing form IMO) though the convenience of legspin to complement offspin would be handy in theory. This side would have a much better mix of current form and potential, with players ready to play in the baggy green now, and down the road.

  • POSTED BY whitesXI on | November 19, 2011, 1:50 GMT

    It should be noted that Callum has been promoted to 1st drop this season and hasn't had much consistency from his openers, batting at 4 he would still be in my team. Rob quiney and Liam Davis have been far more impressive than Maddinson and Cowan. I know Maddinson is young but he should still have needed more to prove he should reserve a place, this is where potential seems to have more influence than form. Really surprised that Faulkner didn't make the cut, he does have potential and more importantly is doing something with it!!! the battle for the all-rounder role between M Marsh and him will be fantastic. @Dashgar I happen to agree with you in regard to our spinners, O'keefe to get a run as the countries current best and Maxwell for potential and batting prowess. @Meety Neville may have an average of 58 but he bats low down and 2 not outs, highscore of 82, compared to wade ave 55 HS 108 with only 20 less runs from 2 less innings and an ODD 100, I'd be picking Wade every time

  • POSTED BY 9-Monkeys on | November 19, 2011, 1:19 GMT

    Obviously I'm unsure of all of your credentials but I'm willing to bet the new national selection panel has a far better idea of what they're doing than all of you (the calls for the selection of injured players suggests many of you aren't really paying attention). Okay, while I concede there are a few questionable picks here - no squad/team is ever going to please everyone, on balance I'd argue this is a good list and with it the upcoming games against the Kiwis will go a long way to answering a few pressing questions re the make up of Test XI.

  • POSTED BY Dashgar on | November 18, 2011, 23:44 GMT

    Again NSW well represented but their best player O'Keefe was overlooked. To be honest I wouldn't have gone with Beer, Hilfy, Maddinson, Starc or Smith. I think O'Keefe, Peter George, James Faulkner and Glenn Maxwell have all been unlucky here. Also I would have had Callum Ferguson in the squad, he isn't in great form but he's proven in his short career that he rises to the challenges of International cricket so I'd like to see him get a run. Other than those small changes though I like the squad. Looking forward to the match.

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2011, 22:54 GMT

    @peeeeet, Ferguson has a composure about him, he has been ready for the big stage for a long time, unlike these other youngsters. He's just never gotten a shot.

  • POSTED BY tdobbo on | November 18, 2011, 22:16 GMT

    Hardly an inspiring quartet, indeed the squad looks very average overall. It demonstrates to me that there is little or no talent coming through for the Aussies. Maybe they'll need to stick with the bad lot they've got in the senior team for a good while longer. How depressing it must be for their supporters.

  • POSTED BY peeeeet on | November 18, 2011, 15:54 GMT

    People need to look at what Ferguson has done this year to realise why he's not there. I don't think he has passed 40 in Shield cricket this year, which is why he's not been picked.

  • POSTED BY OzBaggyGreen on | November 18, 2011, 15:41 GMT

    Warner Cooper and Maddinson...just perfect ... along with Forrest Burns and Lynn are surely the ones for the future....must be blooded in at A level now....Also Beaton , Keath and Faulkner !!!

  • POSTED BY TheLoneStranger on | November 18, 2011, 13:44 GMT

    Why was Warner flown to S.A? Ponting and Hughes were still picked and Ponting failed yet again, so Warner has missed out on the "A" team and the chance to spend more time at the wicket. What a waste of time and money, sending Warner on a Clayton's dry run!

  • POSTED BY Meety on | November 18, 2011, 10:49 GMT

    @Michael Mina - the pitches in Tassie haven't been Green decks - that was last year only. He has taken wickets away from Hobart as well by the way. As for AB Mac - he shouldn't of been so easily discarded after the Saffa tour & he had a great season last season when not injured. As for best medium pace allrounder, nah, I'd rather Hopes, Faulkner or Butterworth - even Henriques!

  • POSTED BY andrew-schulz on | November 18, 2011, 9:48 GMT

    Michael Mina (good to see someone else giving a full name rather than hiding behind a moniker) O'Keefe batted at nine today. Came in with NSW needing 149 to win with 3 wickets in hand, remarkably similar to Qld's chase against Victoria early last year when they needed 148 with 3 wickets left, and got home with a 58 run last-wicket stand between Swann and Feldman after some great hitting by Cutting. O'Keefe didn't actually bat particularly intelligently today, and had a lot of luck. And I must take issue with your all-rounders comment. James Hopes is easily the best medium-pace alrounder in the land in all 3 forms of the game. He was superb in all 4 innings in this game. His captaincy was ordinary, though, but still batter than MacDonald's, who seems to be wandering around in a daze often when he is required to be making decisions.

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2011, 8:13 GMT

    Why does Steve Smith keep getting picked ahead of his more mature, and better performed NSW Captain O'Keefe? The guy just took a 4-for and nearly made a matchwinning 82 from no 8 after his top order failed. Also, where is Peter George? Fair enough Coulter-Nile is injured, but how can you pick Hilfy ahead of George when the former has a lot of test experience as it is. Something tellls me the best Aussie fast bowlers are NOT in South Africa at the moment. Further, has Ferguson made any runs this season? Why isn't he in the team? Cowan is over 30 and Bailey is hardly international standard. Plus why are all you clowns talking about Butterworth. He is military medium pace, playing on Tasmanian green decks - he's not the right choice. Andrew MacDonald is the best medium pace bowling all rounder in Australia and he could bat at 6 or 7 even in tests. I like the selection of Cooper, Warner and Maddinson - they are 3 batsmen for the future, and it's a relief to see some batting talent.

  • POSTED BY Hoggy_1989 on | November 18, 2011, 8:02 GMT

    There's a really good reason Mitch Marsh isn't in this Aus A team...he's injured. As for O'Keefe...he has to be picked over Smith and Beer. The bit I don't understand is O'Keefe got KP with a killer delivery in the Aus A game before the Ashes and top-scored....and they picked Xavier Doherty who wasn't even in the squad. Questions have to be asked of why they do these Aus A games if they don't pick the in-form players after it.

  • POSTED BY L.P.Grace on | November 18, 2011, 7:27 GMT

    I disagree with the selections of George Bailey and Ed Cowan, class players but considering their age are they really pushing for selection? Although I expected it, I am still disappointed at see Beer and Smith selected over their more talented rivals (O'Keefe and M.Marsh). I would haved liked to have seen Peter Forrest given reward for a so far outstanding season, same to Liam Davis.

    Not a bad side, but not a true representation of the next 11 platers inn-line for a baggy green.

  • POSTED BY s.sreekant on | November 18, 2011, 7:26 GMT

    wr is butterworth and liam davis?????wt wrong did they do

  • POSTED BY camcove on | November 18, 2011, 7:21 GMT

    The consistent complaint seems to be that Hilfy was selected, quite often because it was ahead of Butterworth and sometimes because it was ahead of George. First of all, let me say that I am a huge fan of Butterworth, Faulkner and George. It may just be, however, that the selectors take the view that Hilfy was out of form last season, that he is a high quality swing bowler and that a fit and in-form Hilfy is a plus for the Australian side. For the information of Wefinishthis, it wasn't Hilfenhaus who cost us the last two Ashes series. It was the batsmen in England, where Australia was the better side except for two diabolical sessions of batting, and in the last series it was a good team effort (being outbatted, outbowled and outfielded through most of the series). It might surprise to know that Hilf this Shield season has taken 18 wickets at under 25. These probably aren't the best stats in the comp, but they're not shabby.

  • POSTED BY andrew-schulz on | November 18, 2011, 7:09 GMT

    Meety, this game is to be played at the Allan Border field. As for some other suggestions. Simon O'Keefe probably wasn't picked because nobody has heard of him. Coulter-Nile is injured. And you can't just compare average against average when Wade has been playing for a lot longer than Neville. Guys, give the selectors a break, if some of your selections got out on the paddock, it would be a joke.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | November 18, 2011, 6:29 GMT

    @byrnesy88 - Neville probably is 5th in line rightly or wrongly - but his batting is better than Wade's FC ave 45 to 39. Wade has batted very well this year & averages 55 & everyone rightly says he is killing it - Neville is averaging 58!!!! Batting is sort of the 2nd skill for a keeper & I can honestly say I have no real idea how good Neville's keeping is. @katandthat3 - said it before, but I'd like to see a possibles probables match. This team would give a good account of themselves against the Test team. Possibles v Probables was something that was played many years ago & I think it would help clear some murky waters as to who should be wearing the Baggy Green. == == == In regards Maddinson, I suppose he is a bloke like M Marsh, that the selectors see the right attributes for success in. That being said it is open for criticism on the back of getting about 10 runs in 2 innings at the GABBA where this match will be played!

  • POSTED BY jonesy2 on | November 18, 2011, 6:27 GMT

    so im assuming mitch marsh and steve okeefe are already shoe ins for the test team as the allrounder and the spinner respectively?

  • POSTED BY Digimont on | November 18, 2011, 6:22 GMT

    So, what has Callum Ferguson done wrong (apart from not coming from NSW)? Now he can't even make the Australia A side? Has he simply been forgotten?

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2011, 6:11 GMT

    Beer over O'Keefe is a joke as is Smith being in the side other than that not to bad

  • POSTED BY switch83 on | November 18, 2011, 6:01 GMT

    good team, and i definately think Beer deserved his spot, he has been bowling beautifully for WA in shield and Ryobi cup games. His start to the season was half the reason WA won there shiel games and single handedly kept them in the game in first one dayer they played. IMO he should even be ahead of Lyon, but i'll let that slide after last nights effort!!

  • POSTED BY satish619chandar on | November 18, 2011, 5:58 GMT

    Simon O'keefe would feel heavily undone.. While the batsmen and fast bowlers from NSW get almost free tickets to Australian team, why do the spinners from NSW need to work this much to get into team? Both Hauritz and O'keefe ll feel unlucky..

  • POSTED BY jonesy2 on | November 18, 2011, 5:51 GMT

    stupid stupid stupid. why would cowan and cooper be playing. why not tom beaton or marcus harris, and why isnt mitch marsh and nathan coulter nile playing. hilf? why are guys with test experience playing for aus a? this all makes no sense. the next set of test players including okeefe and mitch marsh are not there? why? this really isnt a proper australia a side.

  • POSTED BY satish619chandar on | November 18, 2011, 5:50 GMT

    This is how an A team should be.. With the players down the neck as replacement to the original 11.. Good pick to have players as cover for every position..

  • POSTED BY kardon on | November 18, 2011, 5:45 GMT

    Can not believe Steven O'Keefe has been over looked. He is by far and away one of the best tweekers statistically in the country over the last 3 years yet is only ear marked as a twenty/20 player. That makes no sense to me. He averages in the high 30's with the bat and mid 20's with the ball. Yet we keep using these kids/guys with bowling averages in the 40's and 50s.

    Selecting an A team should be easy. You pick the best performing players in each position from the first class arena. How S'OK loses out to Beer is beyond me.

    Also how Hilfenhaus gets a shot ahead of other quality young quicks likes Mcdermott, Coulter-nile and even I will throw Faulkner the allrounder in the mix is also confusing. Hilfenhaus had his chance and he lost it. Still using him in A teams does not show planning for the future.

    With the likes of Pattinson, Hazelwood, Starc, Cummings, Mcdermott, Coulter-Nile, Faulkner, even Mitch Marsh, our bowling stocks are in very good shape in the years to come. Givem a go!

  • POSTED BY the_flying_squad on | November 18, 2011, 5:25 GMT

    I'll also add that Voges and Coulter Nile are injured, for those saying they should be picked.

    And whoever labelled Cutting an 'ok' selection, should view the current wicket takers tally.

  • POSTED BY the_flying_squad on | November 18, 2011, 5:22 GMT

    Mitch Marsh is injured people!!

    I would also like to know if those saying Butterworth should be in the Test side have actually witnessed him bowl? Whilst I rate him as a good - very good shield bowler, i would be very surprised if he's up to test match cricket. Perhaps ODI's.

    Liam Davis is very unlucky, but happy with Maddinson. Contrary to what those who don't watch underage and shield cricket live, Maddinson is a very good prospect for test cricket.

    Whilst I adhere to the old school, runs on the board argument, I will also say that some of Australia's best ever players were selected young and without a proven record at domestic level. I am all for identifying talent via the Aus A system, just don't think they should be immediately fast tracked to test cricket. Pat Cummins is an exception to that.

  • POSTED BY Wefinishthis on | November 18, 2011, 5:09 GMT

    Most people here have got it right and I think the selectors have done a good job for the batting lineup there, however it is obvious to everyone but the selectors that O'Keefe, Butterworth and Cutting are not getting their amazing performances rewarded. My current top 10 pace bowlers in the country (mostly in order): Harris, Cutting, Copeland, Butterworth, Faulkner, Coulter-Nile, Cummins, Pattinson, Bollinger, George. Notice that Siddle, Johnson and Hilfenhaus are nowhere near our top bowlers.

    For spin, it is obvious that O'Keefe is the class act and has the potential to be the best in the world, but Lyon hasn't done a lot wrong yet, so he probably still deserves a fair go. Beer is rubbish and too old.

  • POSTED BY sifter132 on | November 18, 2011, 5:08 GMT

    REALLY glad they didn't choose Cameron White who seems to get a free pass into these sides in the past, just because they think he's a good captain. Something I've yet to see just quietly - he's no Warne...

  • POSTED BY JD60 on | November 18, 2011, 5:03 GMT

    @Wefinish this - I'm interested to know how Hilfenhaus being Australia's leading wicket taker in the last Ashes series in England cost Australia the series?

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2011, 5:00 GMT

    Feel for Fergie, He's a better pick than Cowan

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2011, 4:59 GMT

    It will be great to see Ben Cutting play for Australia. He has been a good bowler for Queensland

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2011, 4:44 GMT

    I agree with everyone else. the selectors are mean't to be picking on run and wickets O'Keiffe got both on the weekend. why are we still draging smith along hes a batsman that can not bowl.

  • POSTED BY katandthat3 on | November 18, 2011, 4:29 GMT

    A pretty good team (i would love to see Australia AA we have that much exciting talent coming through), good to see Cutting get a crack. Wade will be playing for Australia this summer (particularly if Paine isn't fit). Bailey is a smart captain and is a great choice to lead the side. I feel for Ferguson who is definitely good enough but just hasn't scored the big runs in Shield this season but can play the next level as by his ODI career, Butterworth has to get higher honours soon, he's ready. Faulkner, M Marsh & Coulter-Nile are all exciting allrounders. Maxwell is developing and O'Keefe is still unlucky although Beer has started domestic ok (I'd still go for O'Keefe though). Hopefully Hauritz is back soon. I think George has started domestic well too this season so hopefully he's not out of the mix. I think the Test side is about what's happening now but at the same time utilise this summer. V NZ Hughes, Khawaja, Marsh, Watson, Clarke, Hussey, Wade, Butterworth, Harris, Cummins, Lyon

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | November 18, 2011, 4:27 GMT

    I can't believe hilfenhaus is taking george's spot! I am genuinely annoyed. He is done and dusted and only takes wickets in heavily swinging conditions, otherwise he just gets carted around the park. George puts it on a dime like Mcgrath, and has a yard of hilf. What a joke.

  • POSTED BY Wozza-CY on | November 18, 2011, 4:07 GMT

    A good start from the new panel IMO. Like others, I think we're aware of what Smith & Hilf can do so I'd like to look at a couple of others in this scenario. I would have like to have seen G.Maxwell in for Smith & Butterworth for Hilf. Faulkner is a very handy player but doesn't have the wickets behind him at this season in FC cricket. Cowan needs to have a big score & continue on through the summer to be near an international call up. In general, the batting looks a little thin but I hope they prove me wrong.

  • POSTED BY byrnesy88 on | November 18, 2011, 4:07 GMT

    Firstly I'd like to thank Meety for the laugh in calling Nevill's batting "far superior to Wade and the rest". I would have to think Nevill is at best 5th in line to the Australian keeping job but then again, he is from NSW so he might just get a go yet. If Cutting is not next in line for a pace berth I will eat my hat. His record this season alone speaks for itself and if he wasn't injured last season I reckon he'd be established in the Test side by now. 23 wickets at 14 this season is streets ahead of the rest. I must say I have no idea how Nic Maddinson got picked. The guy has done nothing this season and looks to be another hyped NSW pretty boy ala Phil Hughes. Just so people don't acuse me of NSW bashing, I too think Steve O'Keefe is desperately unlucky to miss out again. He almost single handedly won the shield game against qld in the last couple of days with both bat and ball and is way better than Smith or Beer.

  • POSTED BY spud87 on | November 18, 2011, 4:00 GMT

    Its frustrating to watch Australia's downwood spiral continue due to incompetent selectors. This would be my AUS A, TEST AND 25 Contracted players if i were running the show

    1. Warner 2.Cowan 3. Maddinson 4.Bailey c 5.Wade wk 6. M Marsh/Cooper 7. Butterworth 8. O'Keefe 9. Cutting 10. Pattinson 11. George 12. Faulkner

    1st Test

    1. Khawaja 2. Marsh 3. Ponting 4. Clarke 5. Hussey 6. Watson 7. Wade/Paine 8. Butterworth 9. O'Keefe 10. Harris 11. Cummins.

    The 25 Contracted Players should be at this stage (Test,ODI) - 20/20 is a joke

    Batting. Khawaja,S Marsh,Ponting,Clarke,Hussey,Maddinson,Warner,D Hussey (ODI) Cooper ?

    Bowling. Cutting,Cummins,Harris,Pattinson,George,Starc,Hauritz,Johnson (ODI),Tait (ODI)

    WK. Wade,Paine

    All Rounders. O'Keefe,Faulkner,Butterworth,Watson,M Marsh, Christian (ODI)

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2011, 3:52 GMT

    I think Cutting will be the next fast bowler into the test team. Genuine match winner in seriously good form. Not to say there isn't a tone of fast bowling talent 24 and under, Pattinson, Starc, Hazlewood, Couter-nile to name a few. Even so I'd love to see Cutting and Cummins bowling in tandem at some stage. I also think Glenn Maxwell is very unlucky not to be talked about a bit more. A genuine allrounder who, in my opinion, bats a bit lower in the order for Victoria than I'd like. Non the less I believe he will have a very good cricketing partnership with Steven Smith one day. They will win a lot of matches together I reckon.

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2011, 3:47 GMT

    can someone explain how a team that has ddominated sheild cricket this season only has two players in the top 25 in the country according to the selectors?

  • POSTED BY azzaman333 on | November 18, 2011, 3:46 GMT

    Overall, nothing major to complain about. O'Keefe could easily slot in Beer or Smith's spot, and I'd rather see Maxwell get a shot than Smith. Butterworth and Herrick are extremely stiff not to be there instead of Hilfy and Starc. I'd probably have picked Faulkner, Marsh and George ahead of Hilfy and Starc as well. Seems like Maddinson is only there because Rogers is too old, and Liam Davis hasn't done much before this year. Pretty good overall though.

  • POSTED BY skkh on | November 18, 2011, 3:43 GMT

    I would have preferred Mitch Marsh in this line up. Regarding the pace attack, I would always have Siddle in my team as the third seamer. He may not be very talented but this lion hearted Vic gives his 100% unlike others. While batting he bats to the best of his ability unlike our top order batsmen. Ironical it may sound but when Siddle and Lyon are batting one can relax for they will play sensible unlike the top order batsmen. For the home games this summerI hope Warner is included in the test team in place of Hughes.

  • POSTED BY threeheadedmonkey on | November 18, 2011, 3:41 GMT

    Sorry, they aren't playing for a test spot are they? Pretty sure Cummins and Copeland have the third spot nailed?

    Hope to see Wade destroy here.

  • POSTED BY Matt.J13 on | November 18, 2011, 3:32 GMT

    Hilfenhaus? WHY? There are so many better bowlers in Australia. Apart from him, this is a good squad.

  • POSTED BY MinusZero on | November 18, 2011, 3:26 GMT

    I hope they don't go back to Hilfenhaus, his test record is poor at best for an opening bowler. Give someone new a go

  • POSTED BY Wefinishthis on | November 18, 2011, 3:21 GMT

    What a joke! All this talk about performance-based selections now and they pick some of the most undeserving players in state cricket!

    How is Hilfenhaus even in contention? He has cost us TWO ashes series in a row now! How many more must he cost us?

    A real performance-based selection would mean O'Keefe, Butterworth, Faulkner and Coulter-Nile would be the bowlers in contention along with Harris, Cummins and Copeland (who still deserves a fair go at least for a little while). Pattinson and Cutting seem ok I guess.

    Wade, Warner, Cooper and Cowan are the only deserving batsmen in that list as well.

  • POSTED BY RightArmEverything on | November 18, 2011, 3:08 GMT

    Why didn't they pick all my favourite players???? I'm sure O'Keefe is a fine player but he's only just had his first decent game with bat and ball for the season against Qld. Beer, hasn't been bowling badly for WA. Glad to see Cooper in there, as he's in great form and deserves a spot in there ahead of Ferguson on current form, sad to say.

  • POSTED BY hilditchmustgo on | November 18, 2011, 3:02 GMT

    I agree with Maddinson being in there. Def a star of the future. Great bowling attack too. I think George shouldve gotten a go ahead of hilfy though. PG has looked good so far this season.

  • POSTED BY Joh22 on | November 18, 2011, 2:47 GMT

    What about James Faulkner or Mitch Marsh (if not injured) for allrounder or Steve O'Keefe?

  • POSTED BY GtExpress on | November 18, 2011, 2:41 GMT

    Aussies needs to get rid of Mitch Johnson and replace him with James Pattinson. Their attack should be led by Ryan Harris(providing that he is healthy), backed up by Young Pat Cummings, Trent Copeland (he need to get his pace up to around 130-137 kmph) and my option for a spinner is still Nathan Hauritz.

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2011, 2:26 GMT

    Well Done Ben Cutting. to overcome set backs with injuries. performed exceptionally well a couple of years ago and then this year, clearly the best bowler in domestic cricket at the moment. fully deserve all the acolades and rewards. Would love to see Cutting get an australian go, however all the talk is with cummins, starc, pattinson, faulkner etc etc. where is the talk about Cutting. please someone watch his bowling, look at his stats. look at the success his team is having. Go Ben.

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2011, 2:17 GMT

    Can someone please explain what Michael Beer has done to deserve to be picked in this team above Steve O'Keefe?

  • POSTED BY smudgeon on | November 18, 2011, 2:15 GMT

    I would have picked Butterworth (who is having a great start to the season) rather than Hilfenhaus - but then, I'm sure if a spot is actually up for grabs, it'll be out of Cummins, Cutting or Pattinson.

  • POSTED BY JD60 on | November 18, 2011, 2:14 GMT

    What does Luke Butterworth have to do to get some recognition?

  • POSTED BY pvwadekar on | November 18, 2011, 1:59 GMT

    What happened to Callum Ferguson ? Thought he was a good talented player.surprised that he is not selected for the A game..

  • POSTED BY Meety on | November 18, 2011, 1:57 GMT

    Everybody is on the Wade bandwagon (with good reason), but I wouldn't mind Neville getting a look in. I think he is at least par behind the stumps, but his batting is far superior to Wade & the rest. I would nearly select him as a specialist batsmen & maybe share keeping duties with Wade. As far as the pace bowlers selected, I would imagine Coulter-Nile is not fit to play, so I would look at adding George or Butterworth to the team.

  • POSTED BY D.V.C. on | November 18, 2011, 1:55 GMT

    So no spinner then. Just what does O'Keefe have to do?

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2011, 1:54 GMT

    Tom Cooper and Wade in the form of their lives!! Hope they have a good game..

  • POSTED BY Meety on | November 18, 2011, 1:53 GMT

    The squad is just about right. I don't see a need for Hilfenhaus to be in the side. The selectors should know what he is capable of & monitor accordingly. Unfortunate that Coulter-Nile was injured, I think Cowan was lucky to have a hit a ton this week. As the Oz A side (IMO) should be strictly a form side as opposed to the main side where continuity has a much bigger weighting. So my Oz A side for the GABBA against the Little Bro's across the ditch would of been, (assuming no injuries) 1. Liam Davis, 2. Warner, 3. Bailey, 4. Cooper, 5. Voges, 6. Henriques/Maxwell, 7. Wade, 8. O'Keefe, 9. Cutting, 10. Coulter-Nile, 11. Herrick 12th: Lynn/Smith. Liam Davis has been the only top order batsmen consistantly scoring runs, Warner's form is deserving, Bailey & Cooper have been up there, the allrounders spot is a good battle between Henriques, Maxwell, Butterwoth & Faulkner. I went with O'Keefe for the spin spot even though other spinners have taken more wickets because he is far tighter.

  • POSTED BY BarneyBent on | November 18, 2011, 1:49 GMT

    No Steve O'Keefe, again, despite being clearly the best performed FC bowler. Starc shouldn't be there, Maddinson shouldn't be there (especially with two other perfectly capable openers). Both are talented but a long way off. And Hilfenhaus' selection is just bewildering.

    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss....

  • POSTED BY peeeeet on | November 18, 2011, 1:48 GMT

    Peter George has started well this year and part of me thinks he should have been given a shot here. His one test was in India - a hard place for all Aussie bowlers in general. Apart from that, its hard to fault this squad (barring Hilfenhaus and Smith), as it is actually showcasing the players who are next in line for spots in the top team, and that a good performance here can lead to a spot there.

  • POSTED BY Sutty101 on | November 18, 2011, 1:46 GMT

    Beer ahead of Steve O'Keefe; Hilfenhaus ahead of Butterworth; The incompetency is just continuing.

  • POSTED BY maddinson on | November 18, 2011, 1:41 GMT

    good squad, only useless player in this team is Steve Smith, faulkner is unlucky to miss out. Cutting, Hilfenhaus, Pattinson and Cummins should play in the home season.

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  • POSTED BY maddinson on | November 18, 2011, 1:41 GMT

    good squad, only useless player in this team is Steve Smith, faulkner is unlucky to miss out. Cutting, Hilfenhaus, Pattinson and Cummins should play in the home season.

  • POSTED BY Sutty101 on | November 18, 2011, 1:46 GMT

    Beer ahead of Steve O'Keefe; Hilfenhaus ahead of Butterworth; The incompetency is just continuing.

  • POSTED BY peeeeet on | November 18, 2011, 1:48 GMT

    Peter George has started well this year and part of me thinks he should have been given a shot here. His one test was in India - a hard place for all Aussie bowlers in general. Apart from that, its hard to fault this squad (barring Hilfenhaus and Smith), as it is actually showcasing the players who are next in line for spots in the top team, and that a good performance here can lead to a spot there.

  • POSTED BY BarneyBent on | November 18, 2011, 1:49 GMT

    No Steve O'Keefe, again, despite being clearly the best performed FC bowler. Starc shouldn't be there, Maddinson shouldn't be there (especially with two other perfectly capable openers). Both are talented but a long way off. And Hilfenhaus' selection is just bewildering.

    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss....

  • POSTED BY Meety on | November 18, 2011, 1:53 GMT

    The squad is just about right. I don't see a need for Hilfenhaus to be in the side. The selectors should know what he is capable of & monitor accordingly. Unfortunate that Coulter-Nile was injured, I think Cowan was lucky to have a hit a ton this week. As the Oz A side (IMO) should be strictly a form side as opposed to the main side where continuity has a much bigger weighting. So my Oz A side for the GABBA against the Little Bro's across the ditch would of been, (assuming no injuries) 1. Liam Davis, 2. Warner, 3. Bailey, 4. Cooper, 5. Voges, 6. Henriques/Maxwell, 7. Wade, 8. O'Keefe, 9. Cutting, 10. Coulter-Nile, 11. Herrick 12th: Lynn/Smith. Liam Davis has been the only top order batsmen consistantly scoring runs, Warner's form is deserving, Bailey & Cooper have been up there, the allrounders spot is a good battle between Henriques, Maxwell, Butterwoth & Faulkner. I went with O'Keefe for the spin spot even though other spinners have taken more wickets because he is far tighter.

  • POSTED BY on | November 18, 2011, 1:54 GMT

    Tom Cooper and Wade in the form of their lives!! Hope they have a good game..

  • POSTED BY D.V.C. on | November 18, 2011, 1:55 GMT

    So no spinner then. Just what does O'Keefe have to do?

  • POSTED BY Meety on | November 18, 2011, 1:57 GMT

    Everybody is on the Wade bandwagon (with good reason), but I wouldn't mind Neville getting a look in. I think he is at least par behind the stumps, but his batting is far superior to Wade & the rest. I would nearly select him as a specialist batsmen & maybe share keeping duties with Wade. As far as the pace bowlers selected, I would imagine Coulter-Nile is not fit to play, so I would look at adding George or Butterworth to the team.

  • POSTED BY pvwadekar on | November 18, 2011, 1:59 GMT

    What happened to Callum Ferguson ? Thought he was a good talented player.surprised that he is not selected for the A game..

  • POSTED BY JD60 on | November 18, 2011, 2:14 GMT

    What does Luke Butterworth have to do to get some recognition?