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Samuels 'not well liked' - White

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January 22, 2013

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Marlon Samuels is hit by a bouncer from Lasith Malinga, Melbourne Stars v Melbourne Renegades, Big Bash League, MCG, January 6, 2013
Marlon Samuels suffered a serious facial injury when he was struck by a Lasith Malinga bouncer © Getty Images
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Cameron White, the Melbourne Stars batsman, has labelled as "remarkable" the reprimand given to his Melbourne Renegades opponent Marlon Samuels over the altercation that earned Shane Warne a one-match BBL suspension. White has also refused to apologise for not going to the aid of Samuels when he suffered a severe facial injury from a Lasith Malinga bouncer later in the same match.

Warne was banned for a match after he grabbed the shirt of Samuels during the second innings of the January 6 game and while Samuels was also charged with breaching the Code of Conduct, his hearing was delayed by a fortnight due to his injury. Samuels was let off with a reprimand after the Code of Conduct commissioner John Price ruled that Samuels threw his bat after "extreme provocation" from Warne, who had just thrown a ball that hit Samuels.

However, the problems had started with an incident earlier in the match when Samuels was bowling and appeared to grab the Stars batsman David Hussey, who was turning to complete a second run. The charge that emerged from that incident, that Samuels "engaged in deliberate or inappropriate physical contact with a player or official", was dismissed.

"Being provoked, I don't think you can use that as an excuse," White said in Melbourne on Tuesday. "It's remarkable, isn't it? How many times have you seen someone throw their cricket bat on a cricket field and get [reprimanded] for being extremely provoked? I've never seen it before. That's what the judiciary came up with."

The heated nature of the match continued when Samuels was struck by a bouncer and the only Stars player who came to check on his welfare was the bowler, Malinga. The injury proved to be serious enough to rule Samuels out of the upcoming ODI series against Australia and meant he was confined to his hotel room for the past two weeks, but White said there were a number of reasons the Stars players did not come to Samuels' aid.

"I don't think he's very well-liked, definitely not just from the Stars' point of view but probably in Australian cricket," White said. "People think he carries on a bit. There's probably a few reasons [we didn't check on him]. We were quite busy."

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Posted by SamRoy on (January 24, 2013, 7:52 GMT)

Except Malinga, there was no other gentleman on that pitch that day. It was a disgrace. Whether you like someone or not, not to show concern when someone is seriously hurt shows you in very poor taste. Imagine it happening to you.

Posted by tappee74 on (January 23, 2013, 19:22 GMT)

A man got hit,no one knows how serious the injury is,yet no one had the heart to render assistance.The world should despie White, and those that were on the field.My God, these guys are heartless.In the course of looking at cricket,Australia has always exhibited poor on field comradry to their opposition.There are some great ethical men that represented that country,but that number is out numbered.

Posted by Whatsgoinoffoutthere on (January 23, 2013, 13:00 GMT)

Sounds like Cameron White is jealous that Marlon Samuels has resurrected his international career in style whereas he, White, lacks the spine or talent to do so.

If the bat had hit Warne, it might have knocked some sense in.

Posted by Green_How on (January 23, 2013, 12:32 GMT)

Cameron White should concentrate on his own game instead of coming out with this kind of vitriol. Meaningless T20 competitions should be played in far better spirit.

Posted by Sakthiivel on (January 23, 2013, 10:02 GMT)

Love your enemies that what bible says. But these cricketers not even care for injured players, Good that at-least Malinga checked. T20 league are for fun, dont make it serious. Keep the gentleman's game alive.

Posted by Ms.Cricket on (January 23, 2013, 5:21 GMT)

Comments and behaviour from Warne and White in poor taste. They can't stand losing.

Posted by abbyk2 on (January 23, 2013, 5:15 GMT)

There is banter between teams but shane Warne went to farand paid the price, As for the injury to Samuels when your team mates are not intrested in your welbeing that is not on.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (January 23, 2013, 5:00 GMT)

It seems like all the players are full of it on this matter. Samuels started the whole affair and should have been punished for doing so. Warne had no cause to carry it on and deserves what he got. Samuels then carried it on further and should have been punished for that too. Samuels is a bit of a prima donna and I believe White when he says that he is not well liked, but I bet White is buddies with Australian players who behave the same way. Regardless of how well liked Samuels is, for noone to show any concern when he was obviously in severe distress from having been struck is a disgrace and I'm quite sure that Australian players would be quick to say so if it was one of theirs left bleeding on the ground while the fielding side were "quite busy" with their slow over rate.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2013, 4:40 GMT)

Why Australians always find a way to harass key players of opposition teams is not surprising. Hey how many times other players, Aussies included, get favorable treatment from referees. What's going on here. I suspect that there is more to this than meets the eye. Aussies are afraid of Samuels ability and are out to target him.

Posted by PadMarley on (January 23, 2013, 3:55 GMT)

Dude!! there is a cricketer on the ground bleeding with a wakk on the his face.... you dont like him, he was miss behaving and ten of your boys were busy to go check how he was????? Go pick another sport like boxing or something... this is cricket!! In which school of personal values you were groomed from????

Posted by Scruffy-1 on (January 23, 2013, 3:02 GMT)

Samuels was obviously provoked by Warne,who must shoulder his part in the incident.When a player,or anyone,for that matter,is injured it is natural for for people to go to their aid,White showed contempt for for humanity with his actions and subsequent statement.Someone made the point as to what would happen if the situation was reversed,what goes around comes around.

Posted by Jay.Raj on (January 23, 2013, 2:39 GMT)

@Rooboy you can clearly see that Warne purposely threw the ball at samuels and samuels threw the bat towards the pitch and not warne. At the end, the ball that warne threw hit samuels and the bat didnt touch warne...mayb it shudve

Posted by Jay.Raj on (January 23, 2013, 2:36 GMT)

@ Kolpak1989 wat a fantastic comment ....wen you are bleeding you expect people around you to just do watever they were doing and not care about you right?

Posted by earl100 on (January 23, 2013, 2:34 GMT)

The Medical Staff were not on the field when Samuels got hit. The humane thing to do when a player gets injured on the field, is for the rest of the on-field players to check on his well-being. That's the right thing to do. That did not happen and no matter what you do. You can't justify that.

Posted by Smithie on (January 23, 2013, 2:32 GMT)

If the roles and actions had be reversed would the penalties have been the same. I think not. Political correctness gone well over the top CA.

Posted by fazald on (January 23, 2013, 2:13 GMT)

Samuels is one of the most senior member of this West Indies side and has been playing for the team for a very long time and has only recently made his mark since being dropped from the side several times. Having watched him play recently I have noticed that he looks very arrogant on the field and thinks he is already a legend. However compared to Warnie he has a long way to go. The best performance I have seen from him so far is his excellent innings in the T20 World Cup final against Sri Lanka where he thrashed Malinga to all parts of the ground to win the cup for the West Indies.

Posted by OmanBiek on (January 23, 2013, 2:01 GMT)

The West Indies Team is going to Australia next week. It would be interesting to see how White's comments about not going to help a bleeding player goes down with these guys

Posted by haystak on (January 23, 2013, 1:59 GMT)

Marlon please talk with your bat in the upcoming series....roach and the boys will come off the long run for cameron ....if he makes the team.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2013, 1:51 GMT)

Cameron white who?

Posted by haystak on (January 23, 2013, 1:31 GMT)

It's funny ...but when Marlon wasn't doing well he had no problems now he has worked hard on his game and making a difference there is a problem. As for Cameron white you just showed the world that Samuels is the new LEGEND!! We have an australian tour coming up Cameron IF you make the squad you will be reminded of your coments.

Posted by   on (January 23, 2013, 1:31 GMT)

I find it unbelievable that Cameron White, someone who is regarded as an average bloke at best in Domestic Cricket circles, would publicly call into question a marquee player's character. Samuels is one of the best T20 players in the world and I think Cameron will find that the point of view of the Australian cricketing public, which he so poorly attempted to summarise, was overwhelmingly in support of Samuels through the whole altercation - not in support of Warne, who frankly carried on like an imbecile and was entirely to blame for the blow up!

Perhaps White should focus on scoring some shield runs, or perhaps turning a stock leg-break instead of acting as a self appointed spokesperson for the Australian cricketing public!

Posted by leggetinoz on (January 23, 2013, 1:31 GMT)

lol, what would you conspiracy theorists and moral police do if there wasn't an article somehow sensationalising something that happened in Australia. Perhaps then you would have to look at what is happening in your own countries cricket, guess it the aussies are doing good then as it means you don't have to worry as everything can just be Australias fault. We don't claim to be angels, noone in international cricket is, at least we acknowledge it and move on. White couldn't give a toss whether samuels likes him either, it does seem that he did rub a lot of people up the wrong way in the BBL so he is just saying what is happening at the playing level.

Posted by sircarl on (January 23, 2013, 1:25 GMT)

Cameron White can save the false indignation. I just watched the replay and I can't believe how outrageous Warne's conduct was and how much restraint Samuels showed. Not only did Warne pull and poke Samuels and repeatedly point in his face while swearing, he followed it all up by actually hitting him with a ball!! Throwing the bat up in the air was the least Samuels could do!! I can't imagine Shane Warne thinking of bullying a Viv Richards or even a Michael Holding in that manner. He would surely have been struck by a bat or ball and not just had one flung over his head in exasperation.

Posted by Gizza on (January 23, 2013, 0:21 GMT)

This whole drama seems to be a curtain raiser for the ODI series coming up. I think both are to blame. Warne more so. Samuel definitely needs to learn to act more coolly. If there are were other batsmen from whichever country in his position, I can imagine them getting very angry at Warne but not the bat in the air like that. Warne seemed to have pre-planned his actions a bit more though which is worrying. It wasn't a spur of the moment thing since Samuel's grabbing DHussey's shirt was an innings before. And he's the captain; the one who should be leading by example. After the whole thing, Samuels saying he is a legend and White saying Samuels is not well liked shows the egos they have acquired probably from the T20 and other cricketing money. The Big Bash is now over so over so what are they advertising apart from themselves?

Posted by SlowYorker on (January 23, 2013, 0:18 GMT)

White showing the world what kind of a man he is. It is not about likeliness or unlikeliness. It's all about humanity. What we learned from our parents and school teachers is when someone need help, please go and help them. No matter if he is a friend, likely person or enemy. I saw someone said that stars players are not doctors. I think him also having same attitude as White. You don't need to be a doctor to look after someone else's welfare when they are in trouble.

Posted by auroraboy on (January 22, 2013, 23:24 GMT)

players from Australia always tend to overreact, and as for white, samuels can always say he win the t20 worldcup for the windies, what did you ever u did...

Posted by Brewsir on (January 22, 2013, 23:02 GMT)

Marlon Samuels is correct in his intolerance of Warne's vile behavior. This guy White may one day face a pace bowler on Marlon Samuels' team. That's cricket.

Posted by Kolpak1989 on (January 22, 2013, 22:25 GMT)

This whole thing about the Melbourne Stars players not running over to assist Samuels is nonsense. What were they going to do? They aren't doctors, they didn't even have any magic water with them. Effectively they would just be standing around him in a huddle and getting in the way of the medical staff.

Posted by bonaku on (January 22, 2013, 21:40 GMT)

IT is sad that White justifies his behaviour by not coming to check up if he is ok or not. It is basic human nature to do that gesture and we should not forget that. After all this t20 circus is just a game for money nothing else.

Posted by WestIndianInDA on (January 22, 2013, 20:38 GMT)

I would have never thought I would be reading this from a player, I assume others feel the same way but to publicly say it, says a lot about who Cameron White is as a sportsman. We in the West Indies appreciate the concerns showed by Malinga, guess of the Stars players he showed he was the only true sportsman on that evening.

Marlon is a fighter and will survive this and play again. We have this saying in the Caribbean and am sure it is known else where "What goes around, comes around" Cameron.

Posted by sifter132 on (January 22, 2013, 20:35 GMT)

White's not talking big here, he's just answering questions and reporting what he has seen and heard. Samuels isn't well liked...it's a FACT - nothing to do in particular with White.

And I agree with him, Samuels was lucky to get away with no punishment for EITHER incident: the bat throwing or impeding Hussey by holding his shirt. Warne and Samuels should BOTH have had the book thrown at them.

Posted by ruhkungkuhtungkung on (January 22, 2013, 20:16 GMT)

was Samuels right to hold Hussey: No, in the end there was no second run, so no biggie; was Warne right to carry on as though Samuels stole his lunch?: No; Should Shane Warne gotten some punishment?: Yes; Should Samuels gotten some punishment?: Yes. Is White and his teammates with the exception of Malinga correct in their action to not render assistance to Samuels?: No Any other judgments about the character of any of the gentlemen concerned is a matter of conjecture and not up for consideration, it doesn't increase my enjoyment of cricket, so it is easily ignored. I can only pray that they are more compassionate people off the field. I suspect none of them would care to join the humanitarian professions lol

Posted by SyedAreYouDumb on (January 22, 2013, 19:41 GMT)

Cameron White, i think when you play in a tour to West Indies and get hit by a bouncer only the bowler will check for your welfare… oh wait… your not even in the Australian national team!!

Posted by hamathite on (January 22, 2013, 19:30 GMT)

Samuels WASN'T hit by a bouncer. Replays clearly show the batsman edging the ball unt his cheek. If the ball was left alone, it would never have hit him. As for white, certianly we can see he has admitted that he doesn't like samuels.

Posted by Danksl on (January 22, 2013, 19:28 GMT)

I'm very sorry to say this but except for Australians only handful of people liked Shane Warne in his career. I think regardless of what happened in the previous overs once he was hit neglecting him was very poor. Humanity ???? It's gone these cricketers are not being an example for the kids who watch this game. I love 90,s decade less technology and money but Players loved the game and opponents

Posted by Jay.Raj on (January 22, 2013, 19:22 GMT)

I hope no IPL team buys Cameron White. With this sort of thinking, he will not bring unity within team and more like ego.

Posted by kunderanengineer on (January 22, 2013, 17:34 GMT)

Ironically, after having read Cameron White's remarks here maybe he should wonder how "well-liked" he is now- never mind Samuels.

Posted by CricketFundas on (January 22, 2013, 17:24 GMT)

I'm a huge fan of Warne, but he really crossed the line here and I'm glad he's getting a bit of stick for that. Regarding Cameron White's comments - I dont know who this bloke is, so what he says really doesnt matter.

The only person who came out looking good in this entire mess was Malinga. Hope some of these other agressive cricketers would take a leaf from Malinga's book and show some of the spirit of Cricket!

Posted by blink182alex on (January 22, 2013, 17:01 GMT)

People, don't think that all aussies agree with White here, i don't. It's quite obvious Warne was trying to unsettle Samuels 'to make something happen in the game' as Warne knew the Renegades were coasting against the Stars. Warne overstepped the mark getting right into Samuels clearly throwing the ball at him. I saw enough of Samuels last year in England to know that he loves a bit of chat whilst he's batting but off the field is a top bloke.

Posted by sharidas on (January 22, 2013, 16:56 GMT)

When money comes into play, sportsmanship suffers. Perhaps Twenty/20 is popular, but it certainly does nothing for the game. As for White's remarks...the less said ,the better.

Posted by   on (January 22, 2013, 16:47 GMT)

Woulda been interesting if samuels was on the WI ODI squad heading to Australia

Posted by cricket-india on (January 22, 2013, 16:15 GMT)

when the ICC institute the award for the well-liked player of the year, be sure to nominate white!!!

Posted by   on (January 22, 2013, 16:03 GMT)

It is really surprising that White is clearly taking sides(Warne's). Everyone knows he's a legend in the game but clearly Samuels was provoked and moreover whatever happened when a player gets seriously hurt, your sportsmanship should come to the fore, forget about the arguments. A pretty cheap display of sportsmanship!!!

Posted by billy_bilal on (January 22, 2013, 15:58 GMT)

This incident showed why Shane warne never became Australian Captain. its also probably a good thing that we dont have to watch much of Cameron white on international scene.

Posted by simonviller on (January 22, 2013, 15:14 GMT)

I think that White's comments are classless and totally out of order . Mr White has a few other issues to deal with and until then should stay away from the game and certain people .

Posted by c_Marsh_b_Lillee on (January 22, 2013, 13:48 GMT)

Yep. I agree with you too, dalboy12. Well said. Sometimes people lose their moral compass. Where was a genuine leader when we needed one?

Posted by jaininshah9 on (January 22, 2013, 13:36 GMT)

Cameron White has lost respect of lot of people just by saying that "We were quite busy".. It's unsportsmanlike..

Posted by DylanBrah on (January 22, 2013, 12:22 GMT)

Come on, this is just getting childish -- give it a rest BOYS.

Posted by dissapointed on (January 22, 2013, 11:46 GMT)

This is what cricket has become, big mouths and no skill. The West Indies didn't like a few people back in the late '70's early 80's but would never tray someone like this. For a "player" to say such a thing out of the heat of the moment deserves to be banned for a season.

Posted by Harlequin. on (January 22, 2013, 11:31 GMT)

Not quite sure why people think all of the Melbourne team should have gone to check on samuels when he was hit - it's not like they could have helped in any way. If you are able to help, fair enough go and help the guy, if not then it is usually best to stay out of the way and let the professionals deal with the incident.

As for the punishment, had it been up to me samuels would have been banned for a long time, for trying to cheat and for showing aggression.

Posted by milepost on (January 22, 2013, 11:07 GMT)

It's poor play on Cameron's part. As an Aussie I find his behaviour and comments embarrassing. Even if Samuels was a right pain in the backside, to leave an opponent who has been stock in the face to himself is awful sportsmanship. I'm sure the Aussies have been known to 'carry on a bit' also. Especially Shane Warne! In saying that, I think Warney was always fair and his showmanship made cricket interesting. I doubt the likes of Hussey and Clarke would ignore a opponent with a facial injury to himself. Cameron white is the loser in this article.

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (January 22, 2013, 11:07 GMT)

Well said dalboy12. Yep couldnt have said it better myself.

Posted by Muzgrob on (January 22, 2013, 11:06 GMT)

To busy to check on an injured player? No wonder you never had a decent career White. I have no respect for any of the XI except Malinga who played in that match. Not a bit of class between any of them. I don't like what Samuels did, but to use that as reason to ignore an injured possibly very badly player... Disgusting.

Posted by coolmask on (January 22, 2013, 11:01 GMT)

This is an extremely sad day for cricket and first and foremost I would like to erase any memories of this incident forever as at the end of all of it all , "The Game of Cricket is the silent sufferer". As an ardent fan this wonderful game, I am not very proud of what happened and we (Fans & the Cricketing Fraternity alike) should quickly close this chapter and move forward. This not something that should be seen and replicated by kids all round the world. I am trying my level best to hide this incident from both my kids. The game of Cricket is based on the foundation of the term "Gentleman's Game" and I along with all the millions of fans want it to stay it this way. I laud CA for having taken action against their own player and reprimanded him so that it may serve a loud warning to those who may think about repeating this horrible incident. No player should be able to get away with violence of any sort and we as fans should show ZERO TOLERANCE.:-(

Posted by m0se on (January 22, 2013, 10:52 GMT)

Samuels is an amazing man, to go from years of being banned from cricket to winning the man of the match in the final of the T20 world cup shows amazing character. However, I see only Samuels on the losing end of this fiasco. Warne provokes him and makes him throw his bat. Then, he loses his concentration and gets hit by a bouncer and can't play the rest of BBL or the ODI series. Anything more than a reprimand would have reflected very badly on the whole BBL. As for Hussey's shirt being tugged, really? There was no possibility of a second run there and it all looked like an attempt at humor from Samuels. Though, knowing Samuels character, he will be better off in the long run from this incident.

Posted by kabe_ag7 on (January 22, 2013, 10:51 GMT)

How can any amount of dislike for a player stop you from checking on a player who might be bleeding and need immediate help of some sort?

Posted by   on (January 22, 2013, 10:47 GMT)

mr. white, your argument is rubbish, cricket is not a fashion show. you and your friends do not have to like samuels, warne was totally wrong and your excuse is childish

Posted by Porky_PigTheToon on (January 22, 2013, 10:40 GMT)

Undisciplined Players like Samuels, Afridi, Umar Akmal etc. should be given hard punishments. Cutting the match fees or Banning for a game or two isn't the solution.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (January 22, 2013, 9:57 GMT)

Anands06 - Incidents in Australia are quite rare, I agree Warne behaved like a tool but so did Samuels. You cant blame this on being Australian. Straight after it happen there must have been dozen international cricketers from many countries that were not surprised that Samuels was involved in an incident. So yes it seems he is universally not liked and there were comments came from IPL team mates of his. So White is inhuman for saying what everyone else is saying.

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (January 22, 2013, 9:51 GMT)

Samuels should have got a 3 match ban. His offence was much more serious than Warne's, and, as my old primary school principal would say, the one who started it is always the one in the most trouble.

Posted by Munkeymomo on (January 22, 2013, 9:41 GMT)

Whether he is well liked or not it is basic human decency to check if he is OK after a headshot like that. Amazing comments from White. I personally do not like Marlon Samuels either, I find him incredibly arrogant and a bad sportsman (he thinks he is much better than he is) but I would have still checked to see if he was sparked out or not!

Posted by satish619chandar on (January 22, 2013, 9:27 GMT)

Let us just equate it with one law we have.. A batsman can wave his bat in frustration and if it touches the stumps, then it is a offense. What Samuels did was in frustration on Warne and not in a intent to throw the bat at someone. It was just a reactive incident from Marlon's point of view. Whereas, Warne just wanted to throw the ball on Marlon. So you are going to equate both of them in same way? Just lame argument. I again say, had D Hussey reacted to Samuels's shirt pulling act, he would have got away with less punishment as Samuels was the one who ignited that incident. And, attention to a injured batsman is just the players wish. I wouldn't blame the Stars for not attending Samuels as it is not what they play the game primarily.

Posted by   on (January 22, 2013, 9:24 GMT)

This is some kind of class less crickets. Man hurt you help. Like or do not like the man. He got hurt on the field.

Posted by dalboy12 on (January 22, 2013, 9:22 GMT)

Mate - it doesn't matter what kind of guy he is and how much he is liked - when someone is hit my a ball going 140km/hr, if you are a half decent guy you should check how they are. After Warne's behaviour, David Hussey's comment and now this from White, I'm so stroked that the Stars didn't win the competition. Good on Malinga for showing a bit of character.

Posted by Ben1989 on (January 22, 2013, 9:12 GMT)

Like all you guys agree warne went over the top but Samuels deserved some sort of penalty, he says he's the legend now, everyone knows he's still stuck up & isn't the most perfect person out there too, so get over yourself mate!!

Posted by Anands06 on (January 22, 2013, 9:06 GMT)

Why so many incidents happen involving Australian players????? And again the comments from Mr. White is so unprofessional, derogatory and inhuman.

Posted by Big_Maxy_Walker on (January 22, 2013, 8:44 GMT)

samuels has got to harden up. hes got a history of his known which is not exactly reputable. plus he was the one who grabbed a batsman trying to make a run. That act samuels should have been suspended for, ive never seen that done

Posted by Chris_P on (January 22, 2013, 8:43 GMT)

"Appeared to grab Hussey's shirt"!!!! Come on, what'[s wrong with sayig he grabbed it & prevented Hussey from running a second? Warn'e actions were over the top, agreed, but this guy is a real piece of work talking about families & such watching his antics.

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